mark: on the show tonight, donald trump's new move -- new running mate, but first, the world is grieving again after a night of horrific violence in nice, and reports of a coup in turkey. people were84 killed and more than 200 injured when a truck plowed into a crowd salivating bastille day. no -- celebrating the steel day.

no terrorist groups have claimed responsibility -- celebrating day.stille no terrorist groups have claimed responsibility for the attack. president obama: we are going to keep taking out isil leaders and pushing back isil in syria and iraq. we are going to work with our partners and destroy this vile terror organization. terrorists who only know how to kill and destroy, we are going to win this right by building, by never , byng up on diplomacy working with partners around the world, including muslim communities, to push back hateful ideology that twists and distorts islam, religion that

teaches peace, justice, and compassion. john: president obama also had something to say related to the political debate here at home. president obama: in the wake of last night's attacks, we have heard more suggestions that muslims in america be targeted, questioned, deported, or jailed. it's an affront to everything we stand for as americans. we cannot give in to fear, turn on each other, or sacrifice our way of life. we cannot let ourselves be divided by religion, because that is exactly what the terrorists want. mark: within hours of the attack, details were still unfolding, and hillary clinton and donald trump both weighed in. once again, on display were opposing messages about national security, diplomacy, and the global war on terror. mr. trump: we are not going to have a world anymore. ms. clinton: it's a different

kind of war. we have to be smart about how we wage it, but we have to be determined to win it. mr. trump: what are we doing? we are trying to be so nice, so civil. ms. clinton: my priority is to launch an intelligence surge. we still do not have enough intelligence cooperation between our agencies and those in other countries. mr. trump: we cannot let people from terror states and all of oure other people pour into country. ms. clinton: we need to use diplomacy, starting with our friends. i am indeed the law and order candidate. hillary is an effective. she created isis with her stupid policies. what do their responses tell us about what national security debates will be like going forward?

mark: there's not much new. those two responses were pretty standard. hillary being mature and reasonable. donald trump being donald trump. that is what you would expect him to say, only with this new schematic of the law and order president being thrown in. i did not see much change from the way they have previously dealt with these matters. mark: i suspect if there continued to be attacks, she would feel pressure to be more hawkish. president obama has been seeking the authorization of force from the republican controlled congress for six longer, and the republican congress wants no part in giving a declaration of war to president obama. mark: he has dropped the topic

because he could not get it through. to say, but he made the request, and there was no action. there is not a lot of appetite for that kind of responsibility in either party, frankly. mark: if donald trump can win this race, it's going to be as an outsider and a visceral strawman. i was surprised by some of the words hillary clinton used, reasonable, steady, diplomatic experience. talking about summits and agreeing to go to things, i was surprised by how tentative she was. maybe her view as she needs to say how she feels. that compared is to trumpet she needs to be seen like a friendlier figure. john: can we take a moment just and consider newt gingrich's comments last night.

they were some of the most outrageous things i have heard a presidential candidate say in a long time. mark: he walked them back a bit today. anyonee basically said of the muslim faith should be rounded up and questioned, and if they believe in sharia law, they should be deported. that's a felony. put most of the cia and a fair number of journalists in jail. mark: he basically explained why putting him on the ticket would be a risk. john: do you think he was doing that because he thought he could still get on the ticket and he was trying to show trump he would be on his side? mark: i don't try to analyze newt gingrich. big story iner politics today is donald trump's announcement that mike pence will be his running mate. just about everything about this entire process has been

unconventional. after a delayed plan to unveil the news last night in gotham city, the republican nominee made the news official this morning in a tweet. pens is with trump and scheduled for 11:00 a.m. tomorrow in manhattan, but today, their logo was in veiled -- unveiled. are we allowed to show it on tv? can we put up a safe for work version. that.stick with i don't want to get in trouble with the sensors. the meantime, mike pence did take questions from reporters. >> how are you feeling? humbled and very

grateful. >> what is your message to hoosiers now that you have withdrawn from the governor's and we> we love indiana could not be more honored. this is an opportunity to run with and serve with the next president of the united states. last night, in the middle television,, on donald trump said on fox news that he had still not made his apparently had. this has been an incredibly eventful 24 hours, unlike anything you and i have ever stakes process. to think the way this was unrolled -- the way this was rolled out will in any way harmed the pic? it's a falsity to say that trumps endgame process was more chaotic by their errors compared others.

i remember that the selection of sarah palin had more twist and turns. would bele thought it mike pence. it ended up being mike pence. some people reported trump was thinking of changing his mind. but i think nothing that happened, in the end, will matter. pence will rise and fall according to what happens in the next few weeks or so. rodeo.t was a you had the leaking of mike pence's name, then the walking back of the name, then the cancellation of the event, now the rescheduling of the event. and remindn google yourself what happened with sarah palin, joe lieberman. john: i cannot believe that last night the man was saying we cannot possibly have a press conference tomorrow out of thenct for the people, and

this morning, he tweeted that he had made his pay. mark: why would that have some impact on why mike pence is a good pick? you just can't say this was a conventional rollout strategy. mark: do you think the palin pick was like that, lieberman, john edwards, dick cheney? them had media twists and turns that the campaign could not control. john: i remember those. none of them seemed quite as out-of-control as this one. not a particularly well-managed rollout. you: i am going to get google for your birthday. john: ok. mark: when we come back, more on mike pence after a word from our sponsors. ♪

this is bloomberg. i am mark crumpton. we interrupt "all do respect" to bring you information from turkey. the turkish prime minister said a group within the military was engaged in an uprising. there are reports of military jets flying overhead in ankara with a vehicles blocking bridges in istanbul. ambulances were seen in front of the turkish military headquarters. we are also hearing that turkish state run television has been shut down. bloomberg's isabel finkel is on the phone from turkey. thank you for joining us. i understand developments are fluid at this hour. what are you seeing and what are you hearing? wake stay are extremely fluid,

you are right. i can hear jets flying overhead. -- >> they are extremely fluid. you are right. can hear jets flying overhead. access to twitter is limited. staging what seems attempt, like a coup but i am hesitant to use that word. they have taken over the state broadcaster, so no information is coming from there. dinner in an istanbul restaurant earlier this evening watching that channel when it switched to the weather forecast. information is getting out on the ground but the tv station has been taken over. there are no reports coming out of the presidential palace yet.

turkey's president normally gives speeches several times a day on turkish television. he has not been heard from today. the situation is developing. mark: we are receiving reports from the state news agency that president erdogan is on his way to the airport. can you confirm anything to that effect? >> i have heard that as well. i am unable to confirm anything at the moment. everyone is cut off from each other. i am looking at a day square that was once covered with tourists, now completely empty. the continental bridges were shut by the army. everyone knew something was up. information has started to trickle out and there was a point earlier this evening when everyone ran home because it sounded like martial law or a curfew might have been declared.

are completely dead. president erdogan is supposedly headed to the airport, but nobody has heard from him and it's very difficult to get any information out. mark: was there any indication of this, of any tension between the government there and the military forces? , there's a very long standing history of tension between the turkish government and the army is traditionally seen as a kind of secular bastion of the turkish state, trying to rein in the excesses as it perceives them of the democratically elected government of the day. president erdogan became president two years ago. he has tried very hard to trim the influence of the army. 's role in public life

has diminished over the last two years. -- i think many people didn't think they had the capacity to do this anymore. it has come as a huge shock. coupleould you in just a of seconds give us a brief historical perspective on why this seems to continue to happen in turkey? >> well, it's a very good question. , there seems to be an information war with each side splitting the airwaves with the other. it's hard to get a full understanding of what's going on weht now and what exactly are listening to. but there is a long history of tension. more recently, it has taken the shape of the erdogan government being perceived by a number of citizens as taking a moral there

arian -- a more authoritarian turn. they won some elections recently, so they certainly have the support of the people, but there is a section of society that feels the rights are being .nnoyed it is hard to say whether this fits into that or other sanctions. mark: isabel finkel joining us from central istanbul in turkey. thank you. she was very careful to point out that people are taking great pains not to call this a coup, but there has been some sort of military action in turkey. we are seeing reports of very heavy gunfire heard outside turkey's presidential palace. we are going to continue to follow this story. we will bring you more as we get it. we now join "with all due respect" already in progress. john: i think that is when it is the most dangerous.

if mike pence is asked about trump's fundamental judgment, that could be an issue. i do think there could be a very large problem. terms of hisrk, in condemnation of that proposal. as we know, trump has modified it in some ways. there is no a story on the website about some kind of internal memorandum about how they are supposed to navigate some of these differences, especially on that issue. i think that's a problem. i think trade is also a problem. trade is so much a part of trumps economic message and tends to be -- mark: as it would have been a problem for newt gingrich. john: i agree. mark: trump says i want good deals. i am not against deals. i just want good deals. i challenge donald trump to get

in there and negotiate a good deal. word salad. just if you are threatening a 25% import tariff on china, you're not a free trader. you can say you are for good deals, but you're not actually for free trade. in the rough-and-tumble of presidential politics, i don't think any of these things are that hard to reconcile. the press gets assessed about these things. trump could have picked would have been for nafta. almost anyone he could put on the ticket. john: that doesn't mean it won't be a problem. people are going to have questions. look at trumps policy, look at what he said. he's going to get us good trade deals to bring jobs back to america. i think except for the muslim band -- and even that they will finesse -- i just think it will be a problem.

joe biden had disagreements with barack obama. dick cheney had disagreements with george w. bush. the other party tries to make hay and then it all goes away. usually by the convention at all goes away. next, we will talk more about the stop trump movement and how it stopped. ♪

late night last night in cleveland, members of the rules

committee for the republican national party looked at a very long list of potential rules changes to see if delegates could be unbound from voting for donald trump at the convention next week. that was the last effort to stop trump. it failed to pass. members of the committee and trump supporters teamed up to keep the meeting in session late into thenational night so that p trump would have less time to figure out how to plan and with the vote. the vote was a relief for trump's campaign manager, who did a victory lap on tv and on twitter, and said he was never all that worried. after the vote, senator mike would be ated there backlash among delegates on the floor because the outcome did not free the delegates. smartwas it politically for the rnc and trump to engage

in and squash the effort within a committee and not let there be a debate on the floor? john: i don't see how it couldn't be smart. i know there's some argument to the notion of letting people have their boys. but -- or that not letting them have it would alienate them in some permanent way. this is a threat. you have to squash it. you have to win the argument. you have to become the nominee. win or lose, win. mark: most of the people argued they were engaged in a little that it wasery, good for donald trump to prove the delegates love him. no, they were engaged in mischief. the press would've focused on it. aybe not the only thing, but time. in this clears the deck for next week to be what they wanted it to be about, attacking hillary clinton. john: some delegates are never

donaldo vote for trump. losing on the floor would not have made them happier. stopmebody is trying to your guy from being the nominee, crush them and move on. feeling goode today, despite the horror of what happened in france. they are feeling good. there has been a pretty good reaction to mike pence within the party. they are lining up speakers. it's not an orthodox campaign. but they are feeling pretty good about the last 24 hours. some of the polls look good for them. it's the other thing. a lot of things could go wrong at this convention. a lot of things. even with this now put away. between the unconventional speakers list, the protests, a lot of things could go haywire next week.

getting rid of one potential thing that could go haywire is good. now they can focus on the other things that could go haywire. mark: anything new and chaotic his stuff the press can cover. this would have been hugely chaotic. john: get it out of the way before you have to deal with all the other things you have to deal with. hat joinsman with the the trump more about battle after this. ♪

mark: joining us now in the

studio, mark mckinnon, our circuit.host of the break the tie. thought the trump chaos was in some ways more or in some ways less, but was this the end game? >> i think it's imperative, if he is going to be the law and order candidate and make us safe threats, wetional have to know he has a's button. ais shows he has some -- pause button. some impulse has control. i think it sends the right signal. he needs somebody who people look at and say this guy can step in and be president. he is also a cool hand.

he sent good signals to the conservative base. i think he brings the balance that's needed. john: your old friend matthew dowd work with you on to bush campaigns. why not go out there and do this today? stand shoulder to shoulder with your running mate and announce that you are the team fighting terrorism? >> why not do it tomorrow? the criticism of trump is that he fires before he aims. in a situation like this, you want to step back, understand what is going on, not look like you are shooting too fast. way, a lot of people think he cares more about his vp pick than what going on in france. mark: at the time he made this

decision, they did not know all the facts. they still don't know all the facts. but imagine if isis put out a videotape saying this is the first of several attacks. i don't care who he picked, it would have been overshadowed, and the pens news was already a day old. news was already a day old. >> it says something about the times we are living in. we are in a place where we think this kind of thing could happen any week at any time. positionbe clear, my was that for the last 24 hours, this is been uncontrolled. the trump wass making phone calls last night at midnight trying to see if there was a way to get out of the pic. it's mike pence.

no it's not. he might change his mind. the event is scheduled. it's been delayed. he is making phone calls trying to get out of it. was notseems like this a well orchestrated, button-down rollout. that, but nexte week it won't matter. john: you look -- mark: if you look at mark pence over -- mike pence over the next week, he has to quickly get a speech at the convention and do some press interviews. 60 minutes, we are told, and others. does he seem like a guy off the shelf who can do that stuff? >> we know new could do that. i actually don't know that nude could do that.

-- newt could do that. >> well, he would do it in his own style. mark: most people in that position, the campaign would like to take out a secret entrance or exit. newt could do that. he stopped and did questions. and noters were brief particularly compelling, but he is not afraid of it. >> well, that's the point. mark: and he has people around him now who have been involved in national politics. do you think there's anything to the argument that he is offbrand? that either newt gingrich or chris christie would have been more like trump, not caring about the establishment or party unity, not caring about conservatives, just doing what you want to do from the heart. >> that's true, but you want

balance. we know trump is impulsive. we want to make sure they're somebody use not impulsive in the white house. voters want to trust somebody is thehere who might hit possible. >> do no harm, be boring. pause button.he mark: do no harm. be boring. john: is he the perfect pick? >> he may not be the attack dog you sometimes imagine in a vice president. he had a confrontation with obama once and didn't handle it well. his speech in indiana, i thought he was pretty good as an attack dog. >> we will see. mark: anything else were you would say we want more of this, more of that? >> i don't think so. happens, theythat

are going to hang all the ideological stuff, but one thing i have learned, voters do not care about that stuff. he will cleark very quickly with the press as ready to be commander-in-chief. that's not a problem for him. mark: i haven't seen anybody go after him about that. john: i agree with you so far, i'm just wondering if you see any potholes down the road. mark: every four years there's all this speculation about different things. in the end, it's binary. clear the bar, ready to be commander-in-chief? is anybody ready to go after mike pence and say he's not ready to be president? if you can't get the person on that, they are going to be fine. >> he's a good midwestern calm,

castingand from central he looks like a vice president. john: really? i didn't know there was a look for vice president. mark: he has good hair. up next, kelly o'donnell shares a story she reported earlier today about donald trump having second thoughts after offering the job to mike pence. we will talk to her about that after this. ♪

matt: this is bloomberg. duenterrupt "with all respect" to bring you this special report. i am matt miller. mark: and i am mark crumpton.

prime minister says the military is engaged in an uprising. matt: there are reports of military jets flying over ankara with military vehicles blocking bridges. media reports also said ambulances were seen in front of turkey's military headquarters. we are hearing that turkish state run television has been shut down. says heesident erdogan is still turkey's president and army chief. he says he does not believe cu back spurs, as he calls them, oup backers, -- c as he calls them, will succeed. matt: he is encouraging citizens this uprising.ll

he blames the parallel structure of the army. he has been giving an interview to cnn's turkish unit on facetime. he is not yet able to get to a place -- we are not 100% sure where he is -- that has working television cameras. we also know the army wants to have a curfew starting at 6:00 , 11:00 p.m. new york time. the problem is, because of army blockades around istanbul and , a lot of people are stranded outside their homes in the middle of the city. continuing breaking news. mark: lots of news, lots of fluid developments. we heard reports earlier that the president was headed to the airport. we also heard reports of heavy gunfire outside the presidential palace. matt: we have heard reports that all flights in and out of turkey have been canceled. that is one of the things aired probably wants to put a stop to.

-- president erdogan probably wants to be a stop to. fallinghe turkish lira to less than three lire per dollar. we see turkish etf getting crushed in after-hours trading. and dan maas to talk about what going on. obviously, a developing story. we're not sure of all the details yet. but the financial markets started reacting right before the closing bell of the new york stock exchange and then the movement became larger and larger. dan: this is a surprise, no question, as if there's not enough international to mulch right now last few weeks. tumult right now, over the last few weeks. we have not received any word on the whereabouts of the head of turkey's central bank and

finance ministry. it is true, as the military if it isnd that's -- true, as the military claims, and that is up for debate, they may have taken control of the country, but can they leave the country? that's the real challenge. tape 24ll back the hours before all this started. does kind of an annual report card on each of its members. the last article on turkey was in april. dependent ons domestic consumption. they have a large need to finance that through external things, meaning foreign investment. this is not going to help. that's what i -- why i've brought up the point about international

markets, if you are going to take control of the country. matt: our reporter in turkey is standing by. simmons, hopefully, you are in a safe place. tell us what you are witnessing over the last couple of hours. now.am at my house right even though i am quite -- in a quiet part of his stumble -- istanbul, i am hearing a lot of jets above me, which is unusual. there is a lot of uncertainty about what is going on. turks todent has urged resist by going to squares and airports. he said on television that he is still the president and army .hief but there are reports of a coup taking place in turkey right now.

is uncertainty about exactly who is in control. do you see any sense of a military presence on the streets? our people walking about freely or are the streets mostly deserted at this point? >> unfortunately, i am not on the streets. i am at my home, and so it is hard to say what happening on the streets. there was a huge army presence on the roads about two hours ago. europe to asia was shut down and there was a huge army presence on the bridge. this is very unusual. attempt, a terror there would be police on the streets. there are army tanks on the streets. they are headed to the airport as well. that is when people started saying there was a coup attempt taking place.

matt: we have heard reports that the national television broadcaster was shut down, went black for a few hours, and then was taken over by a faction in the army, and then went back on air. have you had a chance to go through the dial and check out turkish tv and turkish radio? >> yes, i have checked turkish radio. we have heard reports that the television has been taken over by the army. i will be looking shortly to see if it's back online or not. >> is there any suggestion of what the government or the might beof the coup planning to do with the financial markets of the country ? >> the army says it has taken power to restore freedom and democracy and that all

international treaties will be honored. it's unclear how much of the country is now under army control. is there any sense of where president erdogan is right now? he told cnn he was on vacation and planning to come back. getas not been able to anywhere with television cameras. >> he was on facetime so that we could see him on air, but we don't know exactly where he is. there were reports he was trying to fly into is stumble -- istanbul, but it's unclear where he is and what going on with him right now. we have any sense of what is going on with military presence around the central bank and the country's large financial institutions?

>> no, right now we haven't really heard much detail about what happening. as you said earlier, the lire per dollar.e earlier today it was at 2.88 or dollar. so, it's reacting. --re is a report of healthy there are reports of heavy the streetesence on and gunfire outside the presidential palace. mark: we will check back with you in a few moments. let's go to tony at the center for strategic and international studies. he focuses on terrorism and the. he was three's -- counterinsurgency. , ands recently in turkey he joins us on television. we want to start by getting your reaction to the latest

developments in turkey. >> it is not totally a surprise. we have watched the power struggle for some time between president erdogan and the military. the president appeared to have won. military has been charged in the past with conspiracies. they appear to have control. attempted to turn the presidency from an honorific post to one which gave him virtually all the power. againstelection turned him earlier this year, he prevented a coalition from forming, called for reelection, and almost elaborately picked a war with the kurds so there could be a major security -- almost deliberately picked a war with the kurds so there could be

a major security problem and he could be the savior. the military is trying to his secular democracy. matt: let me ask you about a comment president erdogan has made and that we heard from the aime minister that there is parallel structure in the turkish army. what do they mean by that? what is the parallel structure that could lead to the possibility of a coup? is they havem tried to create an army that is directly responsive to the erdogan government. , they are theme guardians of the secular, non-islamic turkey, the one world inward a modern

relation with other countries. this split between the two branches of the military is what i think they thought they controlled. they obviously have not controlled it is much as they thought. >> over the years, we have heard president erdogan rail about what he calls the deep state. that is what we are talking about here. he attempted to do was convert the basic structure of secular turkey into an islamic state, which is a deep state. wasislamic part of turkey the secular group in charge until erdogan came to power. the problem here is there are two turkish states. one is trying to be more secular and modern. the other is trying to find a way to become an islamic state and move forward in the economy in other areas.

to some extent, are in conflict. mentioned earlier in our coverage that there is a u.s. interest there. the u.s. has an air force base in turkey. can you give us a sense of how that plays into the dynamic, turkey being a member of nato and an ally of the united states ? >> turkey is one of the strongest military forces in nato. way,hat's critical, in a in extending nato's power to deter russia and contain puritan -- contain putin. it is also a state that has more than an air base. it is the headquarters of nato alliance forces. controls the border with syria and a key part of the border with iraq.

it's critical in preventing the movement of foreign fighters and if we are everle al-assad fromshar his role as a dictator. turkey plays a very direct role in the wars we are fighting, in syria, in iraq, and not simply in terms of a base. it is absolutely critical for its presence on the ground. matt: tony, thank you for joining us. we really appreciate your time. mark: also joining us on the phone right now is the direct or of homeland and national security law at george mason university school of law. he is also the former chief counsel and senior adviser at the senate foreign relations committee. thank you for your time. i mentioned to our previous

guests that the situation is fluid. what do you make of the situation? it seems like a lot of people the to call this a coup. is what we are witnessing a military coup? thelearly a faction within military has taken over the airports, taken over the radio stations, is making statements reporting to control the government. as you know, as you said, things are very fluid and oftentimes can be reversed, but at least the facts as we know them now, this is an attempted to. i don't know how -- and attempted tcoup. i don't think it could be seen any other way. matt: test of ill people than if they are just joining us, about if -- just to fill people in

they are just running us, about two hours ago, the military started firing in ankara and is stumble -- istanbul about two hours ago. they have taken over roads and bridges. it's very late at night, early morning in turkey. we are now hearing that president erdogan is standing in front of television cameras giving statements. he has not make clear where he is, only that he is in a secure location. the government is saying this is not a coup, and that the military has not successfully overthrown the government. however, we know that military leaders have shut down radio stations, television stations, and the main airport outside of istanbul. what you think of the support people?has among his

can he use the support of the people to overthrow this military coup? >> it's hard to say. somean has faced challenges. there are articles that he has gone over the top. there is corruption. he has challenges with his people. the turkish military has intervened quite -- four times before in turkish politics. this is not the first time it has happened in turkey, but it is the first time in almost 20 years.

mark: matt, we have been mentioning for the past half an hour or so how fluid the situation is in turkey and you update,e us a concise but this has a lot of tentacles and things seem to be spiraling . little more out of control we see the turkish lira falling. we also see etf's falling. mark: we will have more on the continuing developments in turkey. matt miller and i will be back in just a moment. this is bloomberg. ♪

matt: it's 6:00 p.m. in new

york, 1:00 a.m. in istanbul. this is a bloomberg special report. i am matt miller. mark: i am mark crumpton. the presidential palace in ankara. the prime minister said a group within the military was engaged in an uprising. this comes from an interview with turkish television. military vehicles are bridges and roads. ambulances were seen in front of turkish military headquarters. there are reports of turkish state run television channels being shut down and then by military factions and then