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at cleveland's quicken loans arena, right across the street from our temporary "with all due respect" headquarters. the city has morphed into a heaving mass of strategist, protesters, members of the media. but this week long pageant is really all about one person -- trump, self professed billionaire. it began with chaos. members of the anti-trump movement attempted to force a roll call vote. rnc officials shut down the debate before it started. some delegations withdrew support at the 11th hour. that sparked outrage from delegates from colorado and elsewhere, who stormed out of the convention hall in protest. our reporter's inside the hall. tell us what is going on there. john, they have

recessed until the evening show, until the headliners,, but this was an interesting moment of chaos in the first day of the trump show. if this is the worst of it for him, he will probably emerge unscathed, but we should watch closely to see if the anti-trump forces have more on their side. what they wanted was a rules package that would have allowed a conscience exemption for delegates to vote against trump if they want to. that was obviously not going to fly because it would have invalidated the will of the voters and the republicans that run the convention had every interest in making sure that did not happen. they shut that down with a voice vote and ended up moving onto the platform committee package and then recessed. obviously not all of the delegations, but colorado and virginia, and going forward -- what leverage do these people

have. might they walked out while donald trump is speaking? sahil: we got reports that the entire colorado delegation had walked out. not confirmed this independently. a number of other reporters of said this. some in the virginia delegation have as well. going forward, i believe there are points of order to force a vote. but trump has an outright majority of delegates here. whether it gets to a vote is one thing. it's extremely unlikely to the point of impossible a vote against donald trump, able to block him from becoming the nominee would actually succeed. that is the bottom line here. sahil kapur,ht, from the floor of the quicken loans arena. that they crushed never trump dead. what are the implications for the rest of the convention? barring big news, this

will dominate the discussion. the evening session could wipe it away. it is a manifestation of the unhappiness of a lot of people here. i have never been at a convention like this were you meet so many people -- i've meet operatives on the street all of the time, and i say, are you enthused about your nominee? and they say no. for a lot of republican elites, it's a strain convention where they are not in love with their nominee to say the least. forget -- thisle is not the republican grassroots. it's mostly -- it's not just washington elites, but these are people who are serious party voters and has been a long time. for a lot of them, as you say, you run into them and they say, i'm not that excited about trump, but i am one to fall in line for party unity. others are openly scornful. there is nothing like a representative numbers -- this representing -- the

people who voted for him. that creates challenges for the nominee and for his people. around,ump has knocked and he has done, i think, an extraordinary skillful job of tamping down all of this. but we have to learn more about the colorado delegation and why they're so fired up against trump -- john: the ted cruz ones. mark: a lot of states. but if they walk out thursday night when trump is speaking, it will get a ton of coverage. it will be a metaphor for division. but as you said, trump has a lot of support in america. a lot of support in the party. some of the delegates are not that into him. that ise other thing interesting -- the absences of famous republicans. it's an absence. this is actual stuff the tv can show and that is where it gets trickier. mark: right. so, the opening act of trump

felt evening convention, we will your lot about issues like public safety, immigration, and national security. former mayor- the of gotham city, rudy giuliani, military veterans who served in benghazi when the u.s. diplomatic compound was attacked in 2012 also speaking. bayeux,n charge, scott io. the actor. trump, giving the highest profile speech she has ever given. donald trump in person introducing his wife. john, is this convention tonight and the next three days shaping up to be successful? john: dude, no. said, very -- as you have it's "the trump show," right? there is a premium on showing

donald trump, a different side of donald trump. but there are a lot of speakers -- we have highlighted some of them -- that have never been anywhere near politics or an event this big auris stage watched by this many millions of people and the question is, how will they perform? all it takes is one of these people to say something really embarrassing, really politically incorrect that the media will seize on and blot out the coverage on any given night. mark: every convention is about the nominee, but this one more so. there is no sense they are trying to make tom cotton, who is speaking tonight, a star. everyone is here in the service of validating donald trump. first and foremost his family. i think the low expectations will help trump. which is to say there will be so much focus on the family, trump himself, i think they can get away with the speakers not being great because they have not passed them off as being pros. they have passed them off as amateurs announced that the last minute. the business people, these ilebrities, the "athletes,"

do not think it will be a long as the family and trump himself makes news every night, i think they will be fine. it is the case when someone like clint eastwood screws up and doesn't been crazy at a convention, part of the reason it is such a big deal is he is clint eastwood. he is not scott baio. he is not one of the second and third string players. mark: and you're being generous. john: yes, i'm being generous. but cumulatively -- if the problem for trump is he needs to show himself in a new light, will be on the presence reflected the fact that some people think he is a narcissist? if he does not show a new side of himself, he will be the same old donald trump. that is a disaster in some ways. mark: i'm betting he will show in new side, just because it would be madness if they do not poll that off. i do think there will be a

fiesta on social media from the left and a lot of snarky people and media making fun -- a ton of it. john: and some of the right. mark: you are going to see a ton of that. but he goes back to, how are normal voters getting their information? thispeople will what's life. some people will see news accounts. if the family performs and if trump reforms, i'm not sure this other stuff will get much attention. john: i agree with that to some extent. you always lays emphasis on dutch we both do -- on the filter. in ae do not see this mediated way. even the clint eastwood thing, it got trashed the next day. the way the media interprets it matters. not just that they performed, but do they agree they performed well? donald trump and mike pence sat down for their first joint interview with "60 minutes." we will break down some of their body language and some of their actual language right after this from our sponsors.

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♪ donald trump cast the role of his running mate. they had their first sit down with leslie stahl of "60 minutes." audiences got there first taste of the donald flick.ike pence buddy mr. trump: that was a war. iraq did not knocked down -- leslie stahl: your running mate voted for it. mr. trump: i don't care. i was against it.

i was against the war in iraq from the beginning. leslie stahl: you used to that vote as an example of hillary fell bad judgment. mr. trump: many have and i am one of the few. leslie stahl: what about your running may? mr. trump: he is i entitled to make a mistake once in a while. tahl: do you -- do you think he went too far? governor pence: you can say yes to the clearly this man is not a politician. leslie stahl: he has done pretty well. governor pence: he speaks from his heart. mr. trump: i speak for my heart and my brain, just so we understand. governor pence: maybe more important -- this man is not intimidated by the world. donald trump, this good man, i believe will be a great

president of the united states. mr. trump: i love what he just said. mark: huh. wifenor pence and his karen are expected to arrive in cleveland this evening. give hisected to except in speech wednesday night here. john, it has been a little bit more than 48 hours since he unveiling of 10 says the number two. how is the ticket playing? ofn: i think there's a lot people -- the performance of the two of them on "60 minutes" was cringe inducing because you have mike pence saying things about issues he clearly does not believe. i am putting aside whether that is a problem for the ticket or whether you can get around that, which you can for sure. fans of mike pence watching them cowering and saying the things he said -- on the land, it is now over. he cleared the bar. ready to be commander-in-chief. they will be separated, probably not see each other again, and we mike pencere about

again until he has a rather boring debate with tim kaine or somebody else. mark: i'm betting we do not see a lot of joint interviews. you don't do a lot of joint interviews. take someone qualified. i have not seen a single democrat challenge them. the only democrat i have seen said, trump did not brag about how qualified pence was in his speech. he should have done that. in thesomething happens debate, which probably won't, it's done. i know people cringed at that, but the practice trump wants to be in charge. the interview show that trump is in charge. found it amazing. leslie stahl did a nice job pointing out that trump is using a double standard leading pence off the hook and not hillary of the hook. no record thats he was against iraq from the beginning whatsoever. and people saying he's against the death penalty. hillary is for it. pence, i wonder how he

is working over donors who can give money to the rnc? how is he working over house members? he is popular as an inside player, and i think that -- it remains to be seen just how effective he is in getting people who are against her trump or lukewarm on trump to be fired up on the ticket to get mike pence in the white house. that for the reassurance -- this is public reassurance, but there is private reassurance. trump's next -- what campaign chairman told us over eggs this morning. we'll be right back. ♪

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we are just across the street from the quicken loans arena where republicans kicked off their national convention today before things got started -- picked up their national convention today. before things got started our good friend albert hunt hosted a breakfast event featuring paul manafort trump campaign manager paul manafort and a who's who of people including andrea mitchell and jonathan martin of "the new york times we will go through highlights of that conversation with paul manafort, starting with what donald trump's campaign manager said about introducing his legendary traits to the public. paul: it's an important invention. people need to see all aspects of donald trump. >> [indiscernible] paul: everybody knows about his business career. nobody knows what that means other than trump tower. >> not his accomplishments -- paul: his generosity, his caring

about people, his focus on little things he sees, how he tries to fix people's lives. one of the stories reported in the past was one of the young kids dying of some disease -- i don't even know -- he sought in the newspaper. he was a michael jackson fan. donald trump called michael jackson and said, let's go visit this person. they made an impromptu visit. no publicity, nothing else. that is the kind of guy he is. this is not somebody he knew. he was not some celebrity. that is what he does with his employees. the newspapers -- i will fix the problem for you. the story written for you and "the new york times." he reads those things. he is really a softhearted person. that part is the story that needs to be told. john: all right, so mark -- there is the private donald

trump. t says we will get to see it on display at this convention. how much does he have to do to counteract the perception of even republicans who write he is cruel, dismissive, divisive, all of this public persona? how do you counteract that? mark: i don't think trump could do anything to win pete over. but for some voters saying close attention, i think if he shows -- again, you hit on the right word. it's that notion that he is cruel. is a badn that he person. i think he needs to show people that he is a good person. not just through -- i think it is less a recitation of charitable giving. i think those stories will be counteracted. it's more stylistic. it's more -- i have seen it as others have, that he has a close relationship with his children.

that he is loving and nurturing. i think they need to put that right on the stage. seen those ads with the clinton campaign. they are effective. trump abusing people, mocking people -- not effective because they are not affecting battleground state numbers. john: i mean stylistically. i agree with you. a recitation of charitable giving will do nothing. that michael jackson story -- who cares? it is about a different side of him than we have seen in those worst images. mark: there are thousands of , in forans in this town the convention this week. but some anti-trump figures are mia. this include members of the bush johny, former gop nominees mccain and mitt romney, and of course john kasich, the hometown governor, the home state governor. he is in town all week but will not step inside quicken loans

arena unless trump fundamentally changes his ways. don't hold her breath on that. from our breakfast this morning, the question about whether governor kasich's absence will be harmful to trump? >> he is embarrassing his party. he is embarrassing his party. in ohio. and he is violating his pledge. all because he finished third. by still not having as many delegates. we reached out to him. look, i'mmp said, willing to work together. b negotiations broke down because john really thinks john kasich will have a better chance of being president by not supporting donald trump. guess what. >> [indiscernible] that's exactly what it is. that is a dumb, dumb, dumb thing. we will take care of the party in ohio. we will work with rob portman.

we will make sure rob hartman gets reelected -- rob portman gets reelected and we're going to win ohio. mark: there is no backing off on either side. john: no. whoo! manafortwent right at on a personal basis. why is it in their interest for kasich to go after trump and for trump to go after kasich? i find it more genuine than the pence pick. i am for party unity. kasich is like, i am for party unity. if you do not want to be with me, screw you. attitudeanafort's toward kasich. and i think hasek has genuine, profound problems with trump. i also think he wants to be president. mark: the trump people have said in the past they are working with rob portman, working with the state party, they do not need kasich's operation.

kasich has been elected governor of the state twice, they beat trump and the -- in the primary. but he's not interested in supporting trump. john: do you see him standing alongside rob portman in this election? we'll see. mark halperin, that man right there, he asked paul manafort to weigh in on the ever that hillary clinton and her allies have two brand trump negatively. what do you think about the strategy to win this election? paul: i hope they keep running those negative ads. they are spending a lot of money. i don't think this election is about hillary clinton. this election is about donald trump. the last two months of reuben -- have proven that hillary is being discounted by the american people. this is an election about change. change. that ultimately is what is lacking in the white community,

the hispanic community. all of them are going through their own issues in crisis, for whatever reason. who everyonedidate recognizes as a change candidate. and we are running against be a pity me of establishment. any candidate -- i could not pick one off the shelf better than hillary clinton to run against, change versus establishment. john: so, what do you think about that? that was his answer to you. referred several times to their own polling, their own research and suggested rates like oregon are potential in play, connecticut, and clinton's ads will hurt her if that is his big difference why they have not gone on tv. the public polling is not quite as emphatic as that. i think there is no doubt that clinton is a more familiar political figure then trump is, and when he says i want this election to be about trump, that's a little counterintuitive, but he is suggesting if trump can prove to people he is accessible -- acceptable, game, set, match.

that is their theory. john: i got to tell you. i think donald and when this election. if oregon and connecticut are in play -- donald trump is not connecticut easily. that's not going to happen. he's not going to win in a landslide and only a landslide would make those two states in play for him. mark: i will say paul manafort says that he thinks that he can win easily. he does not agree with you. we'll see what happens. coming up, a trump party unity project with two great minds, right after this. ♪

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chairman of the conservative union and the florida party, current advisor to paul ryan. thank you for joining us. your reaction to how the selection of mike pence changes, if at all, your view of donald trump. >> he is a good candidate, a good choice. a serious policy observer. curiosity, aectual welcome addition to the team. this campaign needs to go through the midwest to have a chance. someone from the midwest makes chance. bullish.is

dan? >> i am not. he is pro-free-trade. he had an opportunity last night to talk about it. trump bulldozed over him. it was embarrassing to watch. i i have known mike pence for a while. i have encouraged him to run for higher office. i know he was as skeptical of trump as i was, as many people are. john: as skeptical as you? >> was. your posture was he is a cancer on conservatism. you say he was that far? >> he was definitely in agreement trump was a bad fit for the republican party. he said privately that some of what trump proposed would be offensive and unconstitutional. you would be hard-pressed to find a vice president of candidate that described the policies as unconstitutional and

offensive. i hope pence will have some influence over trump. it is not clear how pence broaden the reach of the campaign. this is not someone reaching out to new voters. i wonder -- they are still trying to unify the party. to ais is as narrow a path win we have ever had. states like colorado and virginia are out of the equation. it is hard to make up that gap for the diversity vote. you have the midwest and have to pull a rabbit out of a hat in florida. there are no more opportunities or plans b or c. that is it. seat.e in the never trump i am in the not yet seat. but i am here to keep an open

mind. i may think he is surrounded by enough people i trust that i will vote for him. john: what was your first republican convention? >> 1976. i was a field man for romney in florida. still the best invention i have gone to. john: does this program look to be shaping up to be a successful convention? >> you do not want to be a doomsayer, but in looking at the list of speakers, looking at the agenda, kind of sounds like, where is the cheering going to come from? today was a circus. the rules committee -- i was one of the people involved. it was not exactly what you want on day one of the convention. if pence is there to unify the

party and there is a fight like today, this is not how you want to come out of the convention. you want to appeal to 90 plus percent of republican voters. >> there were more hispanics playing in the british open than speaking at the convention. mark: why are you here? >> i am a kasich delegate. i was trying to participate in a vote of conscience, allow people who are bound the opportunity to vote for someone else. i think a large number of them would have. mark: it is a pretty contested thing. you have people protesting your nominee, basically. what was the energy like on the floor, with the chanting back and forth? was it pleasant? hostile? >> i would not call it hostile. it was spirited and intense.

p forces were energetic. the anti-trump forces were if the chair had been honest and measured who was louder, the anti-trump forces were louder. that is why they went for a second time. shenanigan where four states would vote and three withdrew. >> whoever gets elected is the one that is least disliked. we will have to see what the purpose of this convention is. hopefully it is to be less disliked than he is now by the base. this is a narrow path. it is not that difficult to figure out what the strategy is. john: jenna donald trump -- can donald trump win florida? .> i have seen some polls

they seem competitive. the only chance to win florida is how poorly hillary can do. default isn by hillary continues to implode. florida is a win by default. 40%itt romney in 2012 got of the latino vote and still lost. what percentage of the vote will donald trump -- >> it has increased by 2% of the total state vote. runningif romney were -- >> he would have lost. at this point, what is your fondest hope for how the week goes? >> my fondest hope? a continued bumpy road over the

ays, continued perception of disunity, so much that it encourages an independent candidate to get in the race and give republicans an alternative. that would be my hope for this week. i am not going to mention names. john: why? who would you like to see? >> my first choice would be mitt romney. but he is not doing it. i am still hoping to see in a -- donaldconscience trump is still finding himself as a political, you know, candidate. let's see if he finds himself in a way and surrounds himself with people that get me there. >> last night during the 60 minutes interview, leslie stahl

the iraqe pence about war. trump said he was misled. this is not pence influencing trump. this is trump dismissing this guy. mark: two very optimistic men. thank you for joining us. we will talk more about the surprises mr. trump is planning for convention week after this. ♪

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the morning after our conversation with paul manafort, jennifer jacobs pulled mr. manafort aside to get a preview of what is to come for the convention in cleveland and what is ahead. you were on the floor just now in the midst of the chaos. give us a little flavor. >> i do not know how chaotic it was. wereve people who antiestablishment a little thrill. the message they were trying to send is that not every person in that room is for the establishment. it was an interesting scene. it did get rowdy. party bosses turned up the music real loud. the camera people ran down to interview people yelling "shame, shame, shame."

the establishment forces started yelling back. we want trump. it was an interesting scene. it amounted to little. mark: speaking of chanting, you might hear the chanting behind us. that is protesters marching by the quicken loans arena. john: what are they protesting? >> it is mostly christian conservatives out there talking about jesus. there were a few liberal protesters objecting to the 1% and other things. we dopaul manafort said not want this election to be about hillary clinton. we want it to be about donald trump. how do you decode that sensibility? >> manafort really laid out what he wants to do to win this election. one of the things he was talking about is how he thinks hillary clinton is a terrible candidate. she has a terrible profile. he really thinks they can beat her. he talked about unrest in the

country, in u.s. cities. he thinks it is not necessary to have all the gop leaders on board, like john kasich. he talked about jeb bush. he said, we would like to have all the bushes on board, but we do not need them. he talked about the states they would bring into play. he talked about how all voters want change. it was fascinating to listen to him rattle off what he thinks it will take down -- it will take to take down hillary clinton. he said it just takes one moment. people need to picture donald trump in the white house. they need to see him as president. once that moment comes, he says the floodgates are open. it is a little cinematic. a little theatrical. we said, is that going to happen? he could not point to when he

thinks it is going to happen. it was fascinating to have him lay out the argument. mark: the first debate will be big. >> it will be. john: jennifer jacobs, thank you. more coverage from our on the ground bloomberg politics forces in cleveland after a word from our sponsors. ♪

♪ during the break, we pulled up two chairs for two chairs -- mike duncan and joe nosef.

you have been to a lot of these. does this feel like past conventions? >> much different. anyore like 1996 than convention i have attended. we probably knew the outcome sorry, 1976.6 -- it is much different. mark: a little uncertainty how this is going to unfold. how does your delegation feel about donald trump as nominee? >> i look at uncertainty from a relative way. it was such a surprise. i was in the credentials meeting duncan. the floor action was a very small, immaterial minority. time, as corny as

it might sound, to get unified behind the candidate in a way people do not think was possible a few months ago. john: how does your delegation feel about donald trump? are they enthusiastic? >> absolutely. they are very enthusiastic about it. three that were not as enthusiastic decided to sit it out. we have supported the delegation from the beginning. john: did you detect widespread enthusiasm here? >> there is. i agree with what you said. we had 20 something contest in 2012. we only had five this time. the committee had an easier time. i did not get this -- booed this time. john: we could boo you here.

[laughter] one: after the convention, of the big concerns i hear from republicans is not raising money fast enough. not building organization. i had somebody from new hampshire. i said, who is running new hampshire for trump? i have no idea. does the campaign have their act together in battleground states? >> you want more resources and party building. but what is going on, we have more reliance on the republican national committee than you have had in my lifetime. trump is bringing people on and doing fundraising. i disagree on fundraising. the first two weeks they had were fantastic. trump turned on something we have not had in the republican party. >> what is interesting to me is the talk a few months ago was campaignnd the trump

are not working together enough. now the talk is they are working together too much. they call it collusion. we call it unity. it is not perfect, but it never is at this point. i have been here for about a week and a half. i feel much better about the nuts and bolts of the campaign going forward. there will be more challenges than there normally will be, but i am convinced we can pull it off. i mean a strong campaign. john: what are you most looking forward to this week? lookingnk i am most forward to hearing some of the family members. i heard today, i think mark said on the program, that he thought donald trump would show more of his real self. i am interested in seeing that.

i am interested in seeing that and look forward to it. in terms of what paul manafort said about showing a different side of donald trump, what do you think he has to show ? >> as chairman, i wanted to buck for my candidate coming out of the campaign. i wanted to nominate someone who could be elected. and i wanted to make sure we did not have a walkout. we are seeing the sausage made now, but it is all about thursday night and donald trump appearing presidential. john: manafort said we have to show a different side of himself. what is the side he is missing? >> i think he started this week with his choice for vice president. people want to see he is a serious decision maker. before that, he put out is list for supreme court. it has been fascinating to watch.

this guy is presidential. we will see it in his thursday night speech and the first debate. this guy could be president. he could lead us forward. mark: if john kasich asks, should i come to the convention, what would you tell him? >> of course you should come to the convention. we have always look at people twice except for donald trump. typically, you run once and you do it again. there is a lot of jockeying. you are seeing people jockeying for the future position in 2024. our: before we let you go, tradition is you do a haley barbour imitation. >> bill clinton is the only person i have ever seen that can cry out of one eye. ready? do it again. >> another one? mark: that one.

>> bill clinton is the only person i have ever seen that can cry out of one eye. maybe you will get my name right next time. mark: thank you both. coming up, some of the sights and sounds from today in cleveland after this. ♪

♪ national political conventions are full of politics and breakout stars. there is so much that goes on outside the spotlight. in cleveland today, we got a good look at a crush of visitors

touring the streets around the convention hall. with a smattering of merchandising, this afternoon, one of many protests checked through downtown cleveland. immigration,atter, and general anti-trump sentiments. we got a close look at the nba championship trophy after we spoke with cavs owner dan gilbert. iran into trevor noah, and may have set a few things that were not fit for family-friendly air. then everyone stopped as they were doing -- what they were doing as a young woman took the stage for sound check. >> ♪ glare, theket's red air gave proofin through the night that our flag was still there ♪

ofn: she had a good set pipes on her. for more on the convention, head over to bloombergpolitics.com. robbins will be on "bloomberg west." me,l tomorrow, for mark and as we like to say here in cleveland, sayonara. ♪

?c+sv >> let's begin with a check of your first word news. in cleveland, uproar on day one of the republican convention. delegates opposed to donald

trump tried unsuccessfully to force a rollcall vote on the convention rules. that motion was defeated. acknowledged what he called troubling times in the nation. tonight's theme is make america safe again. a new monmouth university poll shows donald trump trailing hillary clinton by 3 points. last month, a survey showed mrs. clinton with a six-point advantage. josh earnest says president obama has not called turkey's president erdogan since friday's failed coup. the u.s. is cooperating to identify caucuses but is urging the government to show restraint. 6000 suspects are being detained. french officials confirmed today the attack in nice was a terrorist act. six people are being detained. one of them allegedly received a t