" to: "with all due respect donald trump, not everyone voting for hillary clinton is little. welcome to gotham city. the political media industrial complex of session with the convention is now over and the general election is upon us. today is the eve of the 100 day mark of the election.

hillary clinton and tim kaine hit the road together, taking off on a three-day bus tour that will take them to ohio. donald trump and his running mate mike pence are in battleground states. trump speaking in colorado springs. pence speaking in ohio after participating in a motorcycle benefit ride earlier today. the past few days, the republican ticket mates have for many piñata's speakers at the democratic national convention. last night, trump used a rally in davenport, iowa, to say he plans to strike back. >> i've been watching these speeches at night and boy, am i getting hit. i am getting hit and they don't mean it and there are a lot of lies being told, but i guess

they have to do their thing. i was going to hit a number of those speakers so hard their head would spin. they would never recover. john: this morning mike pence condemned all the trump bashing by telling the radio host "i don't think name-calling has any place in public life." funny because he is then all they name-calling. trump tweeted about crooked hillary. he also added a new one to his trash talking repertoire. bloomberg."ael that was in response to his anti-trump speech. michael bloomberg is our boss. there was this tweet from trump and that was one of several of the military speakers who targeted him. he said general john allen, who i have never met, failed badly

in his fight against isis. his record equals bad. is it at this stage of the campaign and effective tool? mark: i'm starting to wonder if trump is running out of gas. if you think he would go after our boss or someone else, he would not go little. john: oldie but goodie. mark: you should not have two littles. he might start calling me littlejohn. it does not work. i did not object to it much. i know people got upset about it. now inot object to it some profound way. i probably object with less than mike pence. i can imagine for the available voters he needs to reach that that is an effective way to talking. an not going to make

argument for fair rules, but i can't see how that is a winning tack it. -- tactic. john: when he targets people he is not running against, it gets off topic. it also plays into the narrative that he is thin-skinned. is going to win he has to have people feel hillary is unacceptable and crooked hillary plays into her biggest vulnerability. i do think going after other people is a mistake because there are 100 days left and attacking other than hillary clinton does not do much good. mark: the only thing i have to say specifically about hillary clinton, crooked hillary clinton, he calls her a liar a lot. trump has a problem with the truth. hillary clinton has had a historic problem with the truth. there are also questions about trump's business dealings. those epithets seem to open the

door to charges of hypocrisy if the press and others in the clinton shop find examples where he lied or he is cricket. orere is a question -- he is crooked. there is a question there. john: his personality in the camp, like the cholos -- like nicole woss. i don't think trump is going to change. , never goingillary to give it up. mark: this afternoon on a day when the u.s. commerce department reported a theppointing 1.2% growth in key making a pitch to a demographic. clinton laid out some of her priorities in her nomination and acceptance speech.

she with up her own take on the special blend of populism that made bernie sanders and donald trump so popular this cycle. >> democrats, we are the party of working people. corporationsrican that have gotten so much from our country should be just as patriotic in return. it is wrong to take tax breaks with one hand and give out pink slips with the other. if you believe that we should say no to unfair trade deals, that we should stand up to china, that we should support our steelworkers and autoworkers and homegrown manufacturers, then join us. donald trump says he wants to make america great again. well, he could start by actually making things in america again. we are not only going to make all of these investments, we are going to pay for every single one of them. here is how.

wall street, corporations, and the superrich are going to start paying their fair share of taxes. you noticed last night that there were not many specifics. how big a problem do you think that was for the speech's affect? i talk about that specific site, i get criticized on twitter. you and i have long critique hillary clinton in saying she does not have a theory of the case of the economy. she did not marry up as bill clinton did. what needs to be done and proposals that people can grab onto. i asked clinton supporters all the time. what is she going to do on the economy? the ones that people know are not original ideas.

they are not innovative. some have wrinkles. i think it is a big problem. i think she is leaving herself as vulnerable on this as anyone in this race. if trump starts talking about the economy in an effective way, she will be in trouble. he is not doing it either. grandioset from the claims, how little he has been forced to talk it. mark: over at headquarters every day they say little things. john: i think there is a thing you have to make. you are right about the theory a lack ofe which is new, innovative ideas. her biggest problem seems to be that she still nods aggressively towards the sanders supporters and tries to put herself more in the center on the economic argument read i don't know she is super aggressive on the economy or still has traces of new democrat in the economy.

even at the high theory level, what her argument is, let alone the specific marriage up to particular policy proposals. mark: everyone i talk to in both she is that if president, she will do tax reform and maybe immigration reform is beginning. i can't believe that she got to the speech last night without grabbing hold of the issue. tell us how. john: the way that trump exhaled in the way we described, it seems to leave a big opening. mark: the conventions are behind us and the next potentially altering that we know of our the debates. until then, there is not a ton coming up on the political calendar that is scheduled. the next two months are pretty quiet on capitol hill. the house and senate are on extended recess.

you have three weeks of olympic coverage. that means breaking into the news in some big way is going to be tougher than it has been of late. there are events we should keep an eye on. in mid-august there is the iowa state fair. it is a frequent stop. that goes from august 11-21. immediately there will be a fight over a government shutdown deadline at the end of the month that will get the nominees of all. the un'snown -- general assembly and the clinton global initiative convene in gotham city. what are the contours of this race going to be like for the the two months with nothing as galvanizing as the convention? john: my hope is for the first time ever in this campaign cycle that we will have a conventional moment, like during the olympics we can take a break and rest up and get ready for the fall.

given the way that things have played out, just the aggressiveness of trump, the attempt to grab every available news cycle, i think we will have chaos throughout and reaction to world events. i don't see that there is going to be a rhythm. mark: i think what hillary clinton will do is predictable. both of them might take trips overseas. they say trump is going to do a series of policies features. i'm curious to see if they do that. how does his funding go on the campaign and super pac side? trump is going to be badly outraised. let's see if they can fix that in august, which is a hard month to raise money in. presumably they will start television ads. even in september, i am curious to see when they go on the air and how effective they are. john: those are good questions. i have given up trying to predict how things go in this

race. in a normal year, an olympic year, you basically get a news blackout for the period of the olympics. mark: chuck todd pointed out ,hat two states to watch michigan and wisconsin. when the first wave of those polls come out, is trump in the game in those states? if he is out of it there, it is going to be a canary in a coal mine in other states. john: when we come back, a look back at the summer's conventions. ♪

john: if you are like us, you are trying to remember it all. here is a quick refresher on the shindigs in the big city and brotherly love. >> a tale of two conventions. here is what happens. republicans. the guy who came in second got booed. democrats. the guy who came in second got booed for endorsing. democrats, packed house. celebrities for democrats. meryl streep, kareem abdul-jabbar. republicans. duck dynasty guy. underwear model. republican. ge smith. candidate intro video. democrats. voiced by a guy who once played god. republicans. angelina jolie's dad.

american flags. republicans. they were small. democrats. they were big. same song. clinton. trump. interesting choice. balloon drop. cleveland. big but it looked boring. philly. bigger and the adults looks way to do excited. [laughter] john: when it comes to the tv thengs, the democrats beat republicans but trump trump clinton when it came to the acceptance speeches this past a third ♪ -- this past thursday night. there is a question about how much of a poll bounce trump got and clinton might get. what will likely be the miracle impact? mark: focusing more on battleground state polls because that is what matters in the end.

i think clinton will have leads anywhere from plus eight two minus three. that is a wide range. you can say i am hedging a little. john: a little? mark: i have talked to two clinton people who said we had a great convention. we executed, things went great even with the sanders controversies. we are not sure we are going to get a big bump. i think that trump has gotten some bump. clinton will get some bump. i am not sure in the end we are not going to see a wash and see withally roughly even clinton having an edge and important states. john: i think she will get a bigger bump than trump got, but not a massive bump. by the time we get to next wednesday, she will be ahead in the national polling by four, five points and probably battleground states she will be a head, but in the margin of

error in a couple of them. they did an exceptionally good job at this convention. it was a great television production. i think it is one convention where something you and i have said that may not be true. we care most about the nominee speech. i think the democratic convention made its total composition, all of those speakers prosecuting that case i think itame is why is more successful than the cleveland convention. mark: if the people who watch the convention were persuadable voters, maybe. most people were enthusiastic democrats. it, but in none of would bake be content analysis of what people were doing at the convention. with the exception of

michelle obama's speech, as strong as the democratic convention was in mechanics, i much or any other speech besides michelle obama's would have broken through. john: the muslim american gentleman who removed the constitution from his pocket, everyone was talking about that today. when we come back, tiptop discuss the conventions we just did. ♪

mark: reasonable men. strategists from opposite sides of the aisle are setting on opposite sides of the set. us is bob shrum, hascratic strategist, who worked on the bids of john kerry. you are in california, right? all things considered, i would rather be here than philadelphia. mark: it is nice that the guy in california is wearing a tie and everyone else is not. i thought it was solid but i don't think it will change the race much. she think she did the best could do with it. it was effective in the sense

that the national security parts of it hit home. the argument that the democrats are laying out is that donald trumptemper merit the -- temporarily, from a sanity perspective, that he is unwell and not fit to be the commander of to sit atop the national command authority and be trailed es with the football. mark: michelle obama and hillary clinton had as long as they wanted to prepare for their speeches. they both had speechwriters and practice sessions. kept hillaryat clinton from doing a speech as well received as michelle obama? bob: she has a different task. she is not reminiscing about her years in the white house as well as endorsing someone as michelle obama was. i thought hillary clinton did very well in that speech. they obviously spent a lot of

time on it. it was personal. she was funny. i know her and in private she can be very funny, but seldom in .ublic spoke when she said he for 70-odd minutes at his convention, and they were odd. you always debate in acceptance speeches how much to go after the person explicitly. she did it from a moral high ground by creating a paradigm of an inclusive america, that we are strong and compassionate at the same time. as steve suggested, then painted a picture of someone who does not fit that paradigm at all, who gets irritated at a tweet and should not have a finger on a nuclear button. john: one of the things they tried to prosecute throughout the convention is that the

republicans are the pessimism party and democrats are the optimism party. there is also something about trump being an egomaniac. he said only i can fix this. hillary threw that in his face. if you are running the trump campaign, would you have flag that line? steve: of course you word. there is an authority intent -- authoritarian aspect to that. in this country we do things together. when a president speaks to the nation, he speaks through the prism of we. my fellow americans, not i. that was entirely predictable to see where that was going. john: you said a bunch of things about hillary clinton that were good. itt can we infer having seen was the main strategic objective of that speech and tell me how

it did or did not accomplish that objective. bob: the democratic convention was reaganesque, if i can say was, and the republican goldwater-esque. i think she was trying to culminate the convention on an affirmative note that also indicted donald trump. i think she wanted to convince people that you could trust her on issues and she wanted to convince people that they could not trust donald trump on national security policy. when you see general alan up there, you see all those flags. if you are a visitor from mars who came only once every 12 years, you would have said that must be the republican convention. look at all those flags. look at the general. i think she had a clear objective to and affirmatively and disqualify him. we have less than 30 seconds.

the democrat convention was very well-planned. if they could turn the clock back and make one decision differently, what do you think it would have been? bob: i think it would have been to remove debbie wasserman schultz sooner. steve: that is probably it. other than that, that is about as flawlessly as you can do one of these things. mark: you don't have to be partisan to know they did a really great job. incredible production. stand by. we are not done yet. we are going to continue our conversation with these two fellows right after this. ♪

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democratic strategist, joining us from los angeles. we saw hillary clinton and tim kaine walk out the door this morning and get on a bus. what do you think about how that ticket is working in terms of chemistry? >> i thought he did a really good job in his speech, his introduction to the country and i think he conveys an absolute total normalcy. he's the guy who if you go away on vacation for 10 days, he mows your lawn and pains your fence and lets the dog out a couple of times. he comes across like such a decent guy and takes the edge off of the personality liabilities. john: how trump and pens look together and how they are performing together? >> you don't see them much together and doesn't seem to be much chemistry between them. trump, whenever he is with pens,

almost seems to want to put him down, make sure he is put in the shadow, doesn't let him talk. there seems to be a genuine partnership between hillary clinton and tim kaine. i don't get that sense with trump and it would be smart if he acted differently. john: which one of the two running mates is to make news on a consistent basis between now and election day. >> i think kaine. the big news, they'll both make is the vice presidential debate which can be significant as it was in 2012 when joe biden used it to come back. mark: these guys will be part of the news cycle on a regular basis? >> mike pence is part of the news cycle and in an unfortunate way after the "60 minutes" interview. mike pence said the democrats was hard on donald trump.

the name calling. really? you are saying that you are the democrats are being unfair to trump. if you say stuff like that, you will be in the news cycle but wrong way every day. john: we saw trump's bump to the extent there was one. we talked about it earlier in the show. what do you expect to see hillary clinton and tim kaine get out of that? >> the polls will be hugging 50%, 51%. trump will be down 42%, 43%. if she's not and don't bounce out of this convention, it would be outside the margin of error, they have a real problem and time to hit the panic button, not the red alert button, but the yellow button. if there is a voter appetite that says as the old marketters'

addage, the dog won't eat it. and if they're not ahead, they have a real problem. mark: bob, what do you think about that question? >> i think there will be a bounce of five or six points. she did something in that acceptance speech that gore did in 2000 and connecting with people. if it doesn't happen, then it is time to worry, because it means that the resistance to voting is very real. i think she will be 50%, and he will be back 42%. mark: you think hillary clinton is a favorite. joe john: do you think she is a favorite? >> yes. mark: what would make you rethink that? >> you could change it for the worse and make a mistake and you

could say something you shouldn't, but with the olympics going on and all the other stuff that happens in august, the end of summer, i think that the only real game-changing thing, if i could borrow a phrase. >> sure. >> you interviewed me for the book, so i think i'll borrow the phrase. the only real game changer here for trump positively could be those debates. and it is complicated for clinton, because they have to have debate prep for crazy trump, kind of normal trump and somewhere in-between trump. and those debates are going to have one of the biggest audiences. mark: should trump give policy speeches in august? >> they said they were going to be doing policy speeches all through the campaign. the race is going to be relatively stable until the debates. it locks into place.

you might see some bouncing around by a preponderance point or two. when we see those numbers on wednesday, they will be stable until we move into the first debates. should he give policy speeches that flesh out some ideas, you know, he should. but i doubt very much that you're going to see what we understand in a normal election cycle substantive policy speeches. john: do you think the story has a lot of legs? >> it is a disturbing story on a number of levels. at this point, republicans have been weerledly quiet about it. i don't think it will last and i don't think it will be the case if they were in session in washington and there are other aspects of this story that will begin to report it. mana forth relationship and other russian interests and the ties that the senior advisory policy advisers and the questions, who is going to get

security clearances in the trump campaign for the national security briefings. these are potent questions. and if somebody in the trump hierarchy is rejected for a clearance, that's going to become public and if it does, it will hurt the campaign. john: steve and bob, you guys are both awesome and happy to have you here. we'll check in on the first day of hillary clinton's bus tour. listen to us on the radio at bloomberg 99.1 fm. we will be right back. ♪

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tarted on a road trip. both with the very bus in hatfield, pennsylvania, 30 miles north of philadelphia. thank you for coming on the show. you were on a bus tell us about your day so far. >> there are multiple buses involved in this bus tour. there are two buses plastered with stronger together, wrapping the kaine's and clintons, we have two press buses, and motor vehicles for the additional secret service. but so far, we are running behind schedule which is typical for the clinton campaign. now we are in hatfield, pennsylvania, at the fackry that makes lincoln logs.

i don't know what age you had to be to play with them. i was a huge fan. small manufacturers bringing this back to the white working-class voters that trump has appealed to and could put pennsylvania in play. clinton campaign has ads here not in cole where trump are today. the folks i talked to from pennsylvania say they do think there is a potential risk for this state to kind of flip away. i would say the opposite is true for colorado. i was surprised by how quick the republicans i talked to privately dismissed trumps' chances in that mark. john: talk to us about the event that took place in philadelphia. clinton was up late. what was the mood there at the first event in philly? >> we were at temple am

university, lots of enthusiastic people and clintons and tains king the stage and talking about how humbling the experience this is and how she understands that it's a really big deal. that event won. from there we rolled into this motorcade in all kinds of buses to a toy factory in hatfield -- they are cool toys and arrived to find a big h with an arrow through it. and that's all fine and good, but the latest intrigue is a report unconfirmed by the campaign from righters suggesting that some of the clinton campaign emails may have been hacked. we have no details about that. we expect to hear something shortly.

but at this point, no confirmation, no denial, no explanation. details to come. it's probably not the way she wanted to kick off day one of the general election campaign, but perhaps if they had to choose today rather than the night when she accepted the nomination. mark: when i went on a clinton-gore bus tour, we had access to clinton and gore and asking questions. i know there is probably no press conference on the schedule, have you been able to talk to hillary clinton and is she going to make herself available to the media? >> no to your question and not to my knowledge. it's exactly what you would expect from the clinton campaign, the two of you have covered from the beginning of this campaign. we're far away. she is right now doing an interview with the local nbc

affiliate and we expect she may be asked about that hacking report that margaret just referenced. it feels like traveling, not quite the white house motorcade and following the president around, but it's not that far away from that. mark: margaret, i would love for you to weigh in on this conventional wisdom having tim kaine around makes her a looser and better candidate, which is when it works when it worked with clinton and gore, but the two of them together was value added. >> it seems to be very true so far. i was struck by their initial event when she introduced him as her running mate. he is kind of goofy like the boy next door. and he just says things like gee whiz and his wife puts the clintons at ease and the four of

them walking together. it's interesting to see how tim kaine worked that crowd. he knew the audience. he was talking about being catholic. he was asking if there were any irish-americans in the crowd and talking about his father's background as an iron worker. and they are trying to reach. and he seems to soften clinton a little bit, back her up. he is physically deferential. they move nicely together. she does seem together when he is in her presence. john: we have been reading reports from the road from what's happened there and i'm trying to discern in terms of what they are saying out there between attacking trump and talking about themselves and the positive energy for the economy. mark: the bus is moving. >> we're moving. onto the next stop. we are supposed to end the day in harrisburg.

i don't know if we will make an off the record stop before we get there. the balance between those two things, it's not far off what you heard in the convention speech. and you hearing them to talk to the people that margaret was talking about, hillary clinton walking that line on the economy in particular. on the one hand, trying to present an optimistic message contrasted with trump's pessimistic message and acknowledge the pain that people are feeling. that is her challenge as she tries to appeal to these voters and doing that both by talking in this more optimistic way and hitting donald trump as somebody who doesn't understand it and doesn't actually make anything in america, despite the make america great again, hats, et cetera. i would say that's where the balance is. and this is why you saw this come through in the convention speech. she's pretty comfortable attacking donald trump. we learned that when she gave

that speech that was build as a national security speech. i think they are keeping that up. john: casey hunt on the move, action reporter and margaret, thanks for being on the show. coming. bill clinton's former events director talking about convention optics, right after this. ♪

>> good evening, bill clinton and al gore a unified democratic party.

today, they have loaded their message on to a bus and moved out of the big apple headed for the heartland. and degree mitchell is covering. >> the -- andrea mitchell is covering. >> bill clinton and al gore are career politicians and kickoff rally had the trappings of a traditional democratic campaign. >> before we're through we are going to go back to the hardland of america and into the hearts of america and take the people who are democrats and people who are republicans and people who have given up and dropped out and build the coalition to rebuild our country's heritage. >> they boarded the bus heading across nine states from new york to st. louis. they are trying to appeal to the middle-class swing voters. clinton is riding high after a successful convention but knows that lead can evaporate

overnight. the reason to campaign hard is he is anticipating a tough counterattack. mark: that was a bit from our friends at nbc news in 1992 that has striking similarities to the linton-kaine bus tour. the author of the book "offscript" josh is back with us. thanks for coming. >> still a little ptsd. tom and andrea looking so young and the producer bringing us through nine states in six days. i was in west virginia at a steel company now closed down. this bus tour is focusing on small manufacturers.

back then it was heavy industry, but the heavy industry is hard to find now. mark: this bus tour is less than a day old, but how is clinton-kaine measuring up against clinton-gore? >> they are actually doing it and this is something i have been talking about for a couple of weeks and trying to get some tell he pathy. you have to learn from the lesson. friday morning, you have to keep the momentum going. by going to temple university and setting out on a bus through pennsylvania and ohio creating a bont both hillary clinton and tim kaine and ann and bill, that was so important to 1992 to create the momentum that kept you through the summer as bob and steve said earlier, the olympics will take over and it's important to see what the mag

any tesm is -- magnetism is between these two candidates are going forward. john: everyone agrees the democratic convention was well staged. what did you see that they did not do well on? >> as was mentioned earlier, the wasserman schultz episode from early on. but i think the balance that you have to take, john, are you going to do -- clearly going after centrist democrats and moderate republicans and anything they are doing in the three hours that are going to turn off the potential voters. so was the celebrity factor a little high? perhaps. but what i took away watching the four hours and honing in on that one hour of "prime time live" from 10:00 to 11:00 was a

choreographed show. eys and perry might not appeal to some. mark: what does it take to dominate the news with a bus trip. inton and gore did it when "nbc nightly news" was going to cover it. what do you do to keep up the momentum? >> what local harrisburg, pittsburgh, canton, columbus press is going to do with this trip. and they will be darned excited about it and the biggest thing to happen. mark: like hillary clinton doing interviews with the local stations. >> and casey might be upset she isn't doing a general avail to the germ press but wall-to-wall

coverage and be on the front page of the local newspapers. and winning 18 electoral votes in ohio is a ball game. john: mastermind behind this convention, you saw your convention outrate the republicans and on the fourth night, democrats fall short. jim, what happened? >> there was incredible star power on monday, tuesday and wednesday nights. thursday, there are a lot of other things to view. john: why did donald trump beat me? >> when i watched this morning morning's shows and i read all the tweets and i got the whole sense that this was an incredibly well staged convention, i thought less about what the rating ticker would be for thursday night versus the previous thursday night. job well done. john: you wouldn't answer the

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mark: head to bloomberg politics.com. more on the clinton bus tour and on the presidential campaign. coming up is "bloomberg west." thanks for watching. get some rest. ♪ >> what do you have to offer us today?

>> you are watching "bloomberg west." republican presidential nominee trump made his first public remarks since hillary clinton's

acceptance speech last night. in ddressed a rally colorado. mr. trump: i liked the republican convention better. i did. i liked it better. [cheers and applause] mr. trump: i thought we had a far more beautiful set, like not even a contest. how about the first night, they had no american flags up on the stage. mark: mrs. clinton and her running mate kick off a three-day bus tour in pennsylvania and ohio. mrs. clinton's september teans speech drew 28.million fewer than the 30 million that tuned in last week to see donald trump's speech. turkey is escalate its crackdown.