john: i am john heilemann. mark: i am mark halperin. hello? >> with all due respect to your show can you please keep it , down? we are trying to make history here. ♪ mark: welcome to this addition of "best of with all due respect." it was a week in which hillary clinton shattered the glass ceiling, becoming the female first presidential nominee of a major political party. it was an historic star-studded democratic convention, and donald trump still found ways to make headlines. we will hear from it all but let's start with hillary clinton

in her own words in the top of the ticket in philadelphia. hillary clinton: just ask yourselves, do you really think donald trump has the temperament to become commander-in-chief? donald trump cannot even handle the rough and tumble of a presidential campaign. he loses his cool at the slightest provocation when he , has gotten a tough question from a reporter, when he is challenged in a debate, when he sees a protester at the rally, imagine if you dare imagine, , imagine him in the oval office facing a real crisis. a man you can bait with the tweet is not the man we can trust with nuclear weapons. [cheering]

hillary clinton: i can't put it , i can't put it any better than jackie kennedy did after the cuban missile crisis. she said that what worried president kennedy doing that very dangerous time was that a war might be started. not by big men with self-control and restraint, but by little men, the ones moved by fear and pride. [applause] hillary clinton: america's strength does not come from lashing out. it relies on smarts, judgment, cool resolve and the precise and strategic application of power, and that is the kind of commander-in-chief i pledge to be. [cheering] hillary clinton: if we are serious about keeping our

country safe, we also can't afford to have a president who is in the pocket of the gun lobby. [cheering] hillary clinton: i am not here to repeal the second amendment. i am not here to take away your guns. i just don't want you to be shot by someone who should not have a gun in the first place. [cheering] hillary clinton: we will work tirelessly with responsible gun owners to pass commonsense reforms and keep guns out of the hands of criminals, terrorists,

and all others who would do us harm. for decades, people have said this issue was too hard to solve in the politics, too hot to touch. but i ask you, how can we stand by and do nothing? you heard, you saw family members of people killed by gun violence on this stage. you heard, you saw family members of police officers killed in the line of duty because they were outgunned by criminals. i refuse to believe we cannot find common ground here. we have to heal the divides in our country, not just on guns, but on race, immigration, and more. [applause] hillary clinton: and that starts with listening, listening to

each other trying as best we can , to walk in each other's shoes, so let's put ourselves in the shoes of young black and latino men and women who face the effective systemic racism and are made to feel like their lives are disposable. cheering] hillary clinton: let's put ourselves in the shoes of police officers kissing their kids and spouses goodbye every day, heading off to do a dangerous and necessary job. we will reform our criminal justice system from end to end and rebuild trust between law enforcement and the communities they serve. [applause] hillary clinton: and we will defend we will defend our

, rights, civil rights, human rights and voting rights, women's rights and workers rights, lgbt writes and -- rights and the rights of people with disabilities. [cheering] hillary clinton: and we will stand up against mean and divisive rhetoric wherever it comes from. for the past year, many people made the mistake of blocking off -- laughing off donald trump's comments, excusing him as an entertainer just putting on a show. they thought he could not possibly mean all the horrible things he says, like when he called women takes or said that an american judge cannot be fair because of his mexican heritage, or when he mocked and mimicked a reporter with a disability or insults prisoners of war like john mccain, a hero and patriot who deserves our respect.

now at first, i admit, i cannot -- could not believe he meant it either. it was just too hard to fathom that someone who wants to lead our nation could say those things, could be like that, but here's the sad truth. there is no other donald trump. this is it. and in the end, it comes down to what donald trump does not get. america is great because america is good. [applause] hillary clinton: enough with the bigotry and the bombast. donald trump does not offer real change. he is offering empty promises. and what are we offering? a bold agenda to improve the

lives of people across our country to keep you safe, to get you good jobs, to get your kids the opportunities they deserve. the choice is clear, my friends. every generation of americans has come together to make our country freer, fairer, and stronger. none of us ever have or can do it alone. i know that at a time when so much seems to be pulling this -- pulling us apart, it can be hard to imagine how we will ever pull together. but i'm here to tell you tonight progress is possible. , i know because i have seen it in the lives of people across america who get knocked down and get right back up, and i know it , i know it from my own life. more than a few times, i have had to pick myself up and get back in the game. [cheering]

hillary clinton: like so much else in my life, i got this from my mother too. she never let me back down from any challenge. when i tried to hide from a neighborhood bully, she literally blocked the door. go back out there, she said. and she was right. you have to stand up to bullies. you have to keep working to make things better, even when the odds are long and the opposition is fierce. ♪ mark: still ahead bernie , sanders's campaign manager jeff weaver talks about getting sender supporters to fall in line at the dnc. ♪

♪ >> brotherly love is sweltering today.

temperatures in the mid-90's and a humidity of well over 100%. joining us to talk about this hot mess of the convention rollout, bernie sanders' campaign manager jeff weaver. i have my gavel, and i will hit hit you to answer honestly once. you said a lot of people per sanders will not be for hillary clinton. at this convention, are these guys still within your control? jeff: nobody is under anybody's control. it is a democratic convention. it is going to be a raucous convention. it will be great. we will come out unified, beat donald trump, elect hillary clinton, and we will go forward. mark: so far, there has been a lot of chanting of bernie and it is by your people. we know you cannot control them, but what can you do to help them? jeff: we sent them e-mails, texts, encourage them to act with a certain level of the

decorum. mark: but it hasn't worked so far. they would like to see clinton go. jeff: i have not been on the floor yet. mark: they are chanting for bernie and against her. john: they were chanting lock her up earlier. jeff: i can't do anything about that. mark: can you do anything to quiet the people beyond the text? jeff: as the convention goes on, as people get into the spirit of unity, you will see change. john: just to get to the broader question -- what you say mark? there was a time when bernie sanders was the leader of the movement. beck to the same question, has the movement now is the movement , out of the barn door? this movement does not have a leader now. it has a life force of its own. jeff: it certainly does and always has. bernie sanders did not create the movement. the movement was people in this country who were upset about status quo. he did galvanize it and became the face of the movement, but

you know as he said, this is never about one candidate or one campaign. john: what does it matter if the -- if he endorses her tonight? jeff: i think he is extremely influential with the people who love supported him and the fact that he is supporting her, why he has laid out the case to work with her, defeat drum, is very persuasive with many people. mark: the speech is not done yet. i do adding things now to try to deal with what happens to senator sanders what has already happened in the hall? jeff: he writes speeches up to the last minute. so i am sure will incorporate the current events. mark: is he aware of the fact that this is unexpectedly volatile? we side with our own knives this afternoon. jeff: i would not say unexpectedly volatile. i would not use that characterization. john: is he expecting when he ,oes to say to the delegates where he says i endorse hillary clinton, you should support her, there will be half of the convention hall booing?

jeff: no. john: it seems like obvious that it will. mark: superman number one. jeff: that ray was not just delegates. there were other people in their -- in there as well. i think the delegates are a subset of the people in that room. john: do you feel as though his endorsement of tim kaine was wholehearted? jeff: well i think it was an honest endorsement of tim kaine. i think it is extremely important to point out that whatever reservations people have about tim kaine, on his worst days, as sanders said, he raised 10 times better than donald trump, so yes, i do. john: one thing we like about you is your specific. you are pretty calm. i am trying to get a sense of how you feel about what is going on here where your supporters are threatening to disrupt at least part of the convention. are you in different, are you sad, are you angry? confused? jeff: i am always calm on the outside. mark: what is going on inside?

jeff: i hope people behave respectively. mark: how do you feel about it? jeff: i hope people behave respectively. john: are you in turmoil, happy? serious question what do you , feel? jeff: i feel like i wish people would act with some decorum and i will try to make that happen. john: i think probably you are mostly hungry. jeff: i am a little hungry. i will not say it is not true. mark: is there a role for senator sanders here this week after tonight? jeff: absolutely, yes. mark: what would that be? jeff: i think it is a part of his unifying function that he is going to be playing and bringing people together. mark: what will he be doing day-to-day? jeff: speaking that delegation breakfasts, meeting with different groups of people, so -- john: he built and extraordinary grassroots fundraising neck and is a. will he be using that full shoulder, the list and mechanism he built to try to raise money for her? jeff: there are some discussions

now about what exactly that will look like. john: we would like to hear about that. jeff: i hate to talk about them. mark: where will they end up? jeff: you never know. john: what are the areas of discussion? jeff: they would like him to obviously send some e-mails to their list. john: why wouldn't they do that if he endorses her? why isn't he already on board. jeff: he is not a good negotiator. mark: they are not saying boo, they are saying been. john: why is he withholding this one thing? jeff: that is your characterization, withholding. john: you said he was not a good negotiator. mark: every time secretary clinton is mentioned, your people are booing. --that going to canoe continue throughout the four days? jeff: i hope not. john: if you really want to make people think he is for her, jeff

weaver, actually raise the flag. thank you for coming. mark: when we come back, our conversation with senator bob casey. ♪

♪ our next guest uses -- used to his convention speech last night to welcome a democratic candidate. senator, thank you for joining us. bob: great to be with you guys. mark: if i put you in a room with 12 sanders supporters, not a diehard ones but still unhappy, what would you say? senator casey: i would focus on the middle class. at theng hillary said

beginning of her campaign as you put it on her website, defining, and i am paraphrasing, defining economic challenges raising , income for hard-working americans, i think that is the place with a lot of unity, and i think it was the focus of hillary's campaign and bernie's as well. it is an economic message. john: by the time of this rollcall, will we have actual unity, or the perception of unity? bob: we will be be well on the way the unity but there will be work after this. i do not think unity occurs at a magic moment in the convention. it will take some work. my sense of this, i do not have data to back it up, but my sense is we will have to spend more time this summer focusing on younger voters, for example, as one group, but i think we will get there. a lot of that is drawing the contrast, which is plainly evident between the two candidates. mark: we just saw moments ago

senator sanders' brother who lives overseas cast his vote. the dnc, evidence now released pretty clearly that people at the dnc supported hillary clinton, favored her in the process. in real time, we suck senator -- we saw senator sanders asked for more debates and hillary clinton asking for a few her. she got her way. do feel comfortable saying the dnc favored hillary clinton during the nomination process? bob: i don't know enough about the content of the e-mails, but the question is there has to be accountability in the potential violations. but what we have to do now is focus on winning the general election. mark: you don't know enough to say the democratic party favored hillary clinton? bob: i have not read enough. the reporting seems to be good. mark: does that outrage you that your party would favor one candidate over the others? bob: it will outrage me if there is not accountability, but i think there is time to impose

that kind of accountability. mark: what kind of things would you look for to say? bob: that is up to -- i am not a dnc mechanic. that is not my job. what i have got to do now is sure we win pennsylvania. and she will, by the way. john: you think? let's talk about that. there are polls in your state that has shown a very, very close race. why are you as confident about pennsylvania as you are? bob: because of who the candidate is and who the candidate is on the other side. our state is always relatively close. last time, the president won by -- i wouldat it expect it to be close. but i think she will win mostly because of the undecided voters because of that basic choice not , just between the candidates, but the two with national and economic security, i think hillary will do quite well. it will be a battle. we have got to get ready. mark: in the end, do you donald

trump will do better in pennsylvania than mitt romney? bob: slightly but not enough to , win. mark: why? why is he more appealing to your voters? bob: it might be because his focus on the trade issue is one reason, and we still have to make sure that people know that there is a basic difference. i mean you are talking about a candidate in terms of trump who has no economic plan that i can point to that focuses on the fundamentals of what the middle class has been concerned about in this idea that i think has been very elusive for both parties. how do put together a strategy to raise wages? the epi, economic policy institute showing after world war ii, wages went up into the 1970's, 92%. 9% for the next 40 years. we have a challenge that we got to meet. john: you are a good friend of president obama. you played basketball with him

at various times. have you talked to at all about what he thinks about the speech he will give tomorrow night? bob: i have not. last time we talked was about national security and those kinds of issues. i think you'll figure it out. i will say he has got a high bar to meet after the first lady speech last night. john: that is true. what is the brief breach of them -- for each of them in the high-profile speeches the next two nights? bob: for president clinton, i hope he would give a speech similar to what he gave on the road in pennsylvania, which is a validation of not just her service but how she improve the timelives at from she was a young advocate all the way to secretary of state. for president obama, maybe more of an emphasis on her time as secretary of state. mark: we are going to go down to the floor. lewis is speaking on behalf of hillary clinton. >> thank you so much.

georgia, you have cast 87 votes for secretary clinton and 29 votes for senator sanders. thank you again. qualm -- guam mark: thank you for hosting us. john: still ahead, president former communication director. ♪

♪ >> our party has chosen a man to lead us who represents the best of our party. that man is john kerry. he will never sacrifice our basic liberty or use faith as a wedge to divide us. mark: that was either barack obama or his son making a speech. joining us now, a democratic strategist. how is the convention going so far? >> i think it is telling the story of the candidate, what kind of country the candidate sees.

they had a low bar after cleveland last week. i think that bar was cleared about the time they gaveled open. the first two nights of dumbing -- have done a great job in illustrated some basic things about hillary clinton that get lost in the campaign. >> what is in the mind of barack obama as he gears up to do this speech? >> to make the best case for why hillary clinton should be elected president. that is his focus. it is a focus about why this election is so important and he is someone who stays at very, very focused on the main issue here.

there is also a part of the speech which will need to address where we have been as a country and where we are going. what is it that defines this job as one only hillary clinton is going to fill. mark: the lead story, i predict, will not be about barack obama or bill clinton. it will be about russia. are voters likely to learn anything about what is happening in his convention as opposed to what is going on with vladimir putin? >> i think everyone has looked at the ratings this week. they have been very encouraging in terms of people tuning in to hear these speeches. with the late news tonight and what you will see on social

media, you will have compelling speeches, some of the part's most compelling speakers. john: you were the communications director at a time of peak craziness in the white house. you were around when trump was assaulting the president, rising the birther issue. how does that make the president feel personally, donald trump is -- as a republican nominee? >> i think when he got up at the white house correspondents dinner when he discussed the birther movement did the best job anyone ever will telling the world what he thinks about donald trump in the issue.

-- and the issue. i was gone from the white house, but i was around for the first round of the birther stuff, during the 2008 campaign. we were a campaign that prided itself on transparency, putting these things out. i never thought i would have to work on a campaign where we would have to put somebody's birth certificate on the web for everybody to look at and even then it was the short version -- not "the real version." mark: you are a big campaign fan, right? >> i love tim kaine. mark: you're speaking on the same night as joe biden and barack obama. do you think that tim kaine will chafe at this in the next four months? >> i think tim kaine walked into this knowing exactly what the job is and embracing the job. he was one of three finalists in 2008 and had plenty of time back then to think about what it means to give up your own political identity. mark: i'm sorry, but joe biden fought and really fights for a seat at the table. >> i think hillary clinton made it clear, she wants a vice president who has a big seat at the table, a governing partner.

one thing that was striking on saturday, she looked terrific. she looked happy, she was natural. mark: he makes her better. >> he makes her better and she really likes that. john: one quality that is not evident in tim kaine is the ability to take the wood to someone. does he have the capacity to be an attack dog? will he be a tough debater against mike pence? >> tim kaine has been elected governor and senator in a genuinely purple state. in four years, you might call it a blue state. i think now we can call it a purple state. those are tough elections. those are not easy elections. he has won them. my assessment of kaine, he is one of those politicians who has the ability to deliver a negative message without sounding negative. that's important. mark: have you seen any indications that the bill clinton speech played any better

outside the hall than inside the hall, which was relatively subdued white folk? >> that clinton speech was interesting, in one sense that no one has heard a male spouse make that speech about a female. it had so many of the classic elements of a spouse speech at a convention and we are all looking at it and thinking, oh, my gosh. we have not heard that speech made about a woman. i thought it was interesting reactions just based on that. john: not just that, but we have seen bill clinton be pyrotechnic in past convention speeches and he was much more subdued and much more of a surrogate, forgetting about the gender dynamics. >> i think tim kaine embraces his role as number two and bill clinton is learning his role as a surrogate and a spouse. what he gave last night was in many ways the classic spousal

speech. i will tell you a little bit about our private life, some anecdotes -- which none of the trumps did last week, no personal anecdotes. taking chelsea to college and how hillary was going around doing all of the unpacking and stuff like that -- not only did it ring true. mark: tiffany trump just talked about her dad reading a report card. >> that's right. mark: when we come back, we talk about the convention, the campaign. ♪

mark: we are here live, democratic convention at the wells fargo center in philadelphia, the early part of the fourth and final day of this convention. congressman emanuel cleaver has just finished. they are playing a video now.

lots of speakers leading up to hillary clinton. the leader of the rainbow push coalition and a longtime friend, associate, and occasionally rival of the clintons, welcome. it's your first time on the show. we are happy to have you here. you have known the clintons for a long time. i first met you in 1992, when bill clinton was running for president, and you and he had at times a contentious relationship. let's talk about your history with the clintons and how you have watched them become the first family of the democratic party. >> they were doing free legal work, that stood out. i watched her grow. bill always had the sort of sensitivity of southern

folklore. he could talk oxford talk. he could kind of do it all. i watched them grow. of course, bill's record as -- was seen as successful and he never stopped working. john: you were clearly on the liberal end of the spectrum. bill clinton and hillary clinton were modernizers, they were more centrist. do you think now, when you look at hillary clinton -- this is a question progressives all have -- is she really a progressive now? has she gone where the party is? or is she a closet dlc person? mark: calling democrats the leisure class. >> they were trying to get the white vote that reagan did. we were trying to get people we never had. rainbow outlasted dlc. while he tried to govern as deal

-- dlc, his new votes came from the rainbow. as a matter of fact, they had the senate majority. because blacks in the south voted in big numbers for the first time. i think hillary has had a wake up call. john: you think she is no longer a dlc new democrat. she is a democrat democrat, a rainbow push kind of democrat? >> supporting health care, a commitment now to radically reducing student loan debt, that is a concession. she wanted to trust to the banks with removing glass-steagall.

there will much more strength at hearings to make banks more accountable. that's an accommodation. the things she has done to accommodate represent growth and a new reality. mark: my guess is you and donald trump have known each other over the years, right? >> over a long time. mark: tell me your best donald trump story. >> we were going to different boxing matches and donald trump, tyson, don king, those kinds of matches, and he was an affable he gave us office space for a year. mark: so, helping with that project, hanging out, my guess is before this race you thought he was a pretty fun guy to be around, right? >> affable and social. the first signal was the birther movement.

mark: that's a pretty big signal. >> trying to challenge the legitimacy of president obama and he kept going further with that, and now he has gone from that to wanting to kill health care, which affects 30 million people, will not support raising wages for working people. he says that hillary can't say radical islam. he can't say anything -- about putin. we share 2000 miles but also trade with mexico. these ideas could destabilize the country. mark: sounds like you want to debate him.

>> i have some credibility. his ideas about europe and america are dangerous. john: a lot of democrats think donald trump is a stone cold racist. do you agree with that? >> i don't want to go into that. [indiscernible] he is the republican party's face and if we lose he will be , america's president. labeling him at that -- at this point is just another headline. in this city, unemployment is 3%, for blacks, it is 12%. in pennsylvania state, 5%.

that's real stuff. mark: sarah mcbride, the first openly transgender person to speak it either party's convention. could a transgender person speak at the clinton's convention in 1992? >> not 1992 maybe. but [indiscernible] there was a little culture shock. but it was civil. i think all of us are growing. mark: is the democratic party changing faster than the country, or leading the way or -- >> bernie took us to another level. when we first got the right to vote, white women could not

serve on juries. for a while it did not vote. now it is voting. there's a new reality of the image in the markets. so, women -- when hillary makes -- breaks the glass ceiling, it's not just the glass ceiling. mark: a lot of changes. >> a lot of changes taking place. i think hillary has made the adjustment, and i also think people will be working on accountability beyond the election. mark: reverend jackson, good to have you. hope you come back this year a lot. >> you're the man. john: when we come back, more of our best, best, best interviews from this past week. ♪

president obama: for four years i had a front row seat to her intelligence, her judgment, and her discipline.

i came to realize that her unbelievable work ethic wasn't for praise, it wasn't for attention. that she was in this for everyone who needs a champion. i understood that after all of these years, she has never forgotten just who she is fighting for. hillary has still got the tenacity that she had as a young woman, working at the children's defense fund, going door-to-door, to ultimately make sure kids with disabilities could get a quality education. she still has the heart she showed as our first lady, working with congress to push through a children's health program that to this day protects millions of kids. she is still seared with the memory of every american she met who lost loved ones on 9/11.

which is why as a senator from new york she fought so hard to help first responders, to help the city rebuild. as secretary of state, she sat with me in the situation room and forcefully argued in favor of the mission that took out bin laden. you know -- nothing truly prepares you for the demands of the oval office. you can read about it, you can study it. but until you have sat at that desk, you don't know what it's like to manage a global crisis or send young people to war. but hillary has been in the room. she has been part of those decisions. she knows what is at stake in the decisions our government makes, what is at stake for the

working families, for the senior citizens, the small business owners, the soldiers, the veterans. and even in the midst of crisis, she listens to people and she keeps her cool and she treats everybody with respect. and no matter how daunting the odds, no matter how much people tried to knock her down, she never, ever quit. that is the hillary that i know. that is the hillary i've come to admire. that is why i say with confidence there has never been a man or a woman, not me, not bill, nobody more qualified than hillary clinton to serve as the president of the united states

of america. mark: that was present barack obama, of course, bring down the house at the democratic national convention in philadelphia on wednesday. thanks for watching this edition of the best of "with all due respect." we will see you monday. until then, sayonara. ♪

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