tv With All Due Respect Bloomberg August 3, 2016 5:00pm-6:01pm EDT
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john: with all due respect to donald trump's campaign that everything in his campaign is hunky-dory, there is someone you might want to call. >> reince priebus is unhappy now. >> furious with trump. >> quote apoplectic. >> apoplectic. >> quote apoplectic. >> apoplectic. >>, well, a couple of things bother me. ♪ now, happy apocalypse sports fans. unfoldonths left to
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before november 8. this they began with frenzied over thehe ngst possibility that donald trump has shifted from the chaos candidate to the, cozy candidate with his campaign spiraling out of control. reince priebus was furious over his washington post interview yesterday, in which donald trump refused to endorse paul ryan and john mccain. some of donald trump closes allies admitted today age or medic change of course was imperative. >> donald trump is still behaving as though it was the primaries and there were 17 candidates. not made the transition to being the potential president of the united states, which is a much tougher league. you everyl watch
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single day and take everything they can out of context, and he is not performing at the level you need to. ae montana went through stretch in his career when he kept throwing interceptions, and joehalf a season he was not montana anymore, then he figured out what he was doing and change. john: newt gingrich told the washington post that donald trump cannot when the president operating the way he is now. every clinton cannot be bad enough if he is determined to make this many mistakes. compounding the panic our reports suggesting disarray and rebellion within donald trump steam. is that true, paul manafort? candidatethe is in control of his campaign. the turmoil, this is another clinton narrative. very goodgn is in
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shape, organize, moving forward. we are prepared for the fight. john: there have been reports that some of donald trump's allies would like to stage an intervention with the help of his family. bloomberg politics have learned that two of his children left this morning for a hunting trip in the yukon. on the bright side, none of the republicans he singled out yesterday have lashed out at him. soothing did a interview this afternoon embracing donald trump and endorsing paul ryan. anald trim has plans to make major economic policy address in detroit on monday. after all these self-inflicted damage culminating with the washington post interview yesterday, is donald trump closer to getting his campaign back on track? mark: today could have been a lot worse. trump as something new to talk
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about with the united states sending money to iran. donald trump was more focused at his events this afternoon. you did not see john mccain or paul ryan come back at him and a newsmaking way. , belowt could be worse the scenes there is panic in the republican party. they know they cannot abandon him yet, but they know he is headed in a direction they do not want to follow. john: in the worst case scenario, today, any number of people could have renounced him today and withdrawn their endorsement. could have right, been a worse day. i feel like the republican party is on tender hooks and there are conversations taking place about what are we going to do. no one believes a good day means
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anything more for donald trump. theld trump could go off rails again later tonight or tomorrow. he has pushed the party right to the edge of widespread defections. and people abandoning him and drones. they are right at the edge. it did not happen today. it is a very tenuous situation for him. mark: we have seen this before when people say in the next few days we will fix this. no, this needs to be fixed now. the fact that his two sons are away and not reachable is a problem. they can persuade him to do something calibrated or different. john: i believe they are the only people on earth. i don't think any of these strategists -- i don't think paul manafort has any ability to change donald trump's behavior. mark: mike pence tried to diffuse tensions today.
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listen to the vice presidential nominee thread the needle between his loyalty to donald trump and showing his anxious party that the ship can be righted. >> the enthusiasm across the country for donald trump's message and his vision is overwhelming. donald trump is not there yet. these are two men building a goodwill relationship. i am confident that after donald trump is elected president and paul ryan is elected speaker of the house, these two men will do great things. support paul ryan and endorse his election. he is a longtime friend and strong conservative leader. inelieve we need paul ryan the congress of the united states. i talked about my support for my longtimed friendship, he strongly encourage me to endorse paul ryan. mark: yesterday, mike pence met
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with john mccain in arizona, the same day that donald trump suggested to the washington post that john mccain has not been good enough to veterans. what is your sense of this? john: if you are in a plane going through turbulence, it's like the pilot trying to stabilize the plane. of a making the best horrible situation for him, doing it quite well given the extremes in which he is operating. people looking at this will think it is weird that there is this division on so many issues. mark: welcome to trump world, where things can be weird. you talk about the conversations below the radar that is problematic. downpence is calming donors, people in the media. john: more than anyone else. largely is doing it by
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being true to himself. he can say donald trump sent him out and endorsed him to support all right, but it is clear mike pence is trying to keep that these within the party and get donald trump back to winning news cycles. if the running mate work newt gingrich, the kerosene they would be pouring on it. mike pence is out there, not in the spotlight necessarily, but calming people down and giving the ticket a chance to regain footing. like i said, he is making the best of a bad situation. if donald trump wants to drive this bus off a cliff, mike pence will not be able to keep that bus from going off the cliff. pence.ss mike i would not want to be him. we went off the air, the new york times reported prominenthitman,
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republican donor, joining the ranks of republicans who plan to vote for hillary clinton in november. that is still a small club of republicans, but there is speculation that more defections are in the offing. meanwhile, scott walker says he will not appear with his party standardbearer friday when the auto into green bay. more republicans backing clinton in the coming weeks, we note that is true. at what point is there a critical mass that has an impact on the race? national people like meg whitman will get attention. there may even be more members of congress. it is people at the state level that can impact the race. the clinton campaign will be sure to aggressively highlight them. we are nowhere near
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tipping point, but we may get to one if donald trump has a bad first debate. john: those things all matter. i would bet a lot of money that weween now and november will see an event orchestrated by the clinton campaign with a dozen or more diehard republicans, military people, former military people, a bunch of them who will stand on stage and not just endorse her and say they will vote for her, but say this man should not have his finger on the nuclear button. mark: here is the dirty secret about why paul ryan has done what he has done. 70% of the base, may be, they want donald trump. you abandon donald trump, there is no formula for winning a general election if 70% of the base is angry at you.
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mark: welcome back. time to follow the money. the wall street journal reported today that the obama administration secretly sent $400 million to iran on the same day for prisoners were freed. linksay there is no between that money and the prisoner exchange. was coincidental and the cash was part of a financial settlement with our ron after a failed arms deal.
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mccain,rump, rnc, john donald trump was unrelenting, led his criticism today. can they use this as an effective issue? john: they can make it an effective issue about the iran deal. on the matter of substance, $400 million, we knew that we were going to send them a bunch of money? , right? will this $400 million matter to anybody, i don't think so. this i don't know that will cut across undecided voters or independents, but this is a great talking point for the base. gives them away into criticizing the iran deal in general. it is a hot point for the base. it gives them a hook on that argument.
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mark: i said the deal was four years ago, it was for decades ago. ridiculous, and that is the way these deals work, but i will say foreign policy in general, critiquing obama-clinton foreign-policy is something donald trump and mike pence will have to do better. money story that team trump is trying to newtalize on our the fundraising dollars showing he raised $80 million in july, most of it from low dollar donors, ending with $37 million cash on hand, closing his fundraising gap with hillary clinton, who raise and 90 main dollars last month and has 58 million dollars on hand. do these numbers suggest that we should be thinking a new and terms of what the trump campaign can contribute. mark: donald trump can now hit
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people into the rhythm of giving over and over, and it sells partially the fear that republicans are being badly outspent. they still have not figured out how they will spend the money they are bringing in. john: it seems like they are able to capitalize. can't keep up with the clinton campaign in terms of money, there are other problems will be compounded. this at least to suggest the possibility they can do it. mark: what donald trump knows, and i give him credit for this, low dollar donors volunteer, keep giving. john: they don't max out. mark: they are also activists. they get their friends to turn out. they had a very successful month. let's see how they keep it up. you have to have infrastructure to deploy them
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fair enough. mark and i were saying that compared to how it could have gone, the day has not gone that badly for the trump campaign. what is your sense of the threat level over there now and the gop more broadly. a campaign rally in florida today, and he did not trash paul ryan, so a positive note for the campaign. they aree scenes, trying to tamp down on this idea that there is campaign infighting. they are saying the candidate has always been the outsider, antiestablishment candidate. support john mccain if john mccain is not supporting him. the idea that there is infighting in the campaign, they're trying to put the brakes on that. the infighting idea is not as large as it has been during past
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controversies, say when there were more corey lewandowski folks on the campaign, but there are people close to donald trump telling him that it is time, enough with the controversy. it is time to move on and focus on his message and start acting more presidential so he can win this race. , if he continues with these controversies, it's going to be harder and harder. back to you. part of thew messaging from president obama and the clinton campaign is donald trump is not normal. how did they view the endorsement of meg whitman to get people to see how mcclendon in a different light? call it the normalization of voting for hillary, right? the trying to make its and neighbors, longtime republicans feel like voting for hillary
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clinton is a perfectly normal they haveo, even if been members of the republican party for many years. that is why you are seeing split messaging. seeing a traditional approach. they are trying to put donald trump off as very different. john: you said you were somewhere in colorado, tell us what this event is designed to drive, what is the message you're about donald trump ties, outsourcing, and all the rest? neckties, which hillary clinton's campaign would like you to remember that donald trump's neckties are not made in america.
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this is all aimed at noncollege whites. colorado, ain diverse estate, a swing state in the past, but right now the clinton campaign is not on the air here. they are not on the air in virginia. they are on the air in pennsylvania. she is talking about things made in america. tomorrow she will be an los angeles talking about the apprenticeship programs. it's about people who don't have college degrees. if they feel like they can make inroads with those people, they feel they can ensure they will win the election. topline poll numbers show her with a post-convention bounce. she was up two points on the economy. he had been up on her 11 points in that category. they feel like if they can nail this part of it down, then they
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will be up to coast and away they would not have been able to otherwise. mark: there's no one contradicting him and public, and yet he as allowing mike pence to go out and say he supports paul ryan. why does mike pence get a special place to do stuff like that? >> are sources say donald trump , saying if youce want to endorse paul ryan, go ahead. why he is allowing governor pence to do it, i am not entirely sure. maybe because it puts him into a hairy situation given his ties to washington and allows him to have his cake and eat it too. he can be the tough guy on the campaign, and governor pence can be the good cop come in trying to get the republican establishment more trusting of donald trump's campaign.
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so far, this party is having the biggest problem with donald trump right now. we are told that not endorsing paul ryan and john mccain is basically the last straw. there has been controversy after controversy. giving thetacks, not veteran his purple heart back, fighting with the baby at the rally, they see these things as unnecessary. i was talking to an influential that donaldo said trump has a psychological problem. that a psychologist would diagnose him with a personality disorder. it's not when do we pull the cord, but at what point do we have to pull the cord. does that mean the rnc is directing funding away from from donald trump's campaign, staff away from the campaign into senate races? how much support do they lend to donald trump?
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they feel if they cut him loose and he tanks in the polls, they are giving up the votes for the majority in the senate, and that is something they don't want. john: donald trump is trying to make hay with this iran ransom story. does the clinton campaign think there is any danger to them politically? >> i think they are very much aware of it. into this,e is tied but they feel like it is another example of a story overshadowed by what is going on with the donald trump campaign. they have been pretty lucky over the course of the last couple of days. she had that misstep where she talked about james comey saying she was truthful and all of her statements about her e-mails. that was something that got buried underneath everything going on with the kahn family. here are some similarities
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without. she has done a couple of local interviews. we have not had a chance to put it to her directly today. john: always an extraordinarily large pleasure to have you both on the show. thank you for being here. come back soon. when we come back, anxious republicans. two former party chairman right after this. ♪
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>> losing the election. what we are seeing is a choice between hillary -- >> 20 where saying, vote for the least of two evils. >> you know for sure hillary will be a better president than donald trump? >> know, but it is a risk i am willing to take. humpty dumpty will not get put back together again. mark: that was some of our conversations with party leaders. duncan was chair of the party from 2007 two 2009 and he joins us now from the washington bureau, but before we get to him, another former rnc chairman joining us by phone from big sky country. thank you for joining us. i want to start off by asking you, you hope that republican convention would not make him the nominee, but now that he is the nominee, what do you think the republican's posture should be toward him?
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>> the party is an association of people that changes constantly, so when you refer to the party, it is really a kind of anomaly because there is no identifiable group you are referring to, we are moving in and out virtually on a daily basis. my great focus, when i took a look at the race and i like to think for myself, naturally i want to be a team member. i want to support the team loyalty, but there are some transcendent principles that also come along with fighting for the highest office in the land in the most powerful person in the world occupying that office has meet those principal tests and program tests, frankly. his program, or his policy proposals just simply do not match up with the platform of the republican party or conservative principles. secondly, and most importantly, there is no exhibition of any kind of characteristics that go into decision-making on a presidential level that suggest
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to you, that even though you might disagree that there is a sound basis in fact and good sense and honest judgment, and i find none of those things present in available with mr. trump and as a consequence, my hope was that they would do something different at the convention. today, but i can see for myself is that i cannot and will not support mr. trump for president. john: that means, mr. chairman, you plan to vote for hillary clinton? >> no, it does not. to be honest with you, to bare my soul, i do not know what i'm going to do but i do know i will not be casting a ballot for the present republican nominee. john: what is your message to republicans that are bustling with the same dilemma right now? should they be free of their conscious, whether that be supporting from, supporting trump are going all? , not supporting trump or going all the way and supporting
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hillary clinton? embrace and act accordingly, and not castro valley. winston churchill just talked about feeding an alligator, hoping you were the last one the alligator ate. i am not accusing people of being appeasers but i am saying there is a transcendent set of values throughout our history that we subscribe to above party, and that is what i believe i am focused on, and i would urge my fellow republicans to focus on this as well. mark: thank you so much for joining us by phone. joining us by camera from our washington bureau, mr. duncan, former chairman of the party. what has the events of the last week done, if anything, to impact your view of donald trump as your party's no money? -- nominee? >> we are not after the start we wanted. ump out of the
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convention and never has disappeared. days and it is time for us to be on offense but we are playing defense. we are letting the other team move the ball down the field and we have had the opportunity to take the ball back but we have had self-inflicted wounds to take the ball back. i am pleased the olympics are coming up, guess i think you will see an opportunity for refueling, more fundraising going on, and i think you'll see more consolidation of the republican party. the next three weeks will give us the opportunity we need to get to that sprint that occurs after labor day. john: mr. chairman, do you think it is acceptable for your party's nominee to attack the goldstar family? >> know, i think they should be off-limits. my mother was a goldstar mother. i understand that. that is something i understand in my family. i resent politicians using families and slang military in theirs pawns
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game. i do not think we need to be talking about that. i think was a huge mistake. john: how do you feel about your republican party posing on many refusing to endorse the highest ranking republican in the land? >> i think there are always disagreements. i think it will come together. i was pleased to see mr. pence come out with his endorsement. i think at the end of the day donald trump will support the nominee, the speaker, and i think they will work together. it is part of that pushing and shoving that is not often on stage, usually find the scenes. mark: you sound pretty optimistic. i am wondering what you would say to republicans that many of whom are in a panic over the way donald trump has performed. about 4.5only down points after they have technically superior convention and they were able to get a big bump out of that.
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there is a lot that can happen. we have a candidate that understands what is going on in america and what is going on, people want change. donald trump represents a change. john: you are talking about politics and whether he can win in whatever political damage, but a lot of people in your party think that what has been exposed is a fundamental making himlaw and unfit to be president of the united states. do you not share any of those views? >> i believe we have the most inexperienced residential candidate in history and he is making mistakes that an experienced candidate would not make. i think that is what you are seeing going on right now. when i look at the two candidates and i weighed the philosophy and morals of hillary clinton, i am going to go with donald trump because i know who donald trump is going to appoint to the supreme court. john: to do not have any concerns about his temperament and character? >> obviously, i have concerns.
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i am concerned about who he will appoint to be around him to make those decisions in the cabinet's, who will be advising him on a daily basis. i think all of this is very important to the temperament and tone of the administration. mark: mr. chairman, thank you. mike duncan, former chairman of the party. when we come back, we are talking about hillary clinton's top economic advisers. you can also listen to us on the radio radio on 99.1 fm. be right back. ♪
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president clinton and obama. they differ coming on the show. we are going to talk about the campaign momentarily in the outsourcing push the campaign is putting out but i want to ask about president obama that made it really strong argument why tpp is still in america's interest. what is your view about that? are you now and a disagreement with the president on this issue? >> it is always hard when you are the child and mom and dad disagree. i think that president clinton, i mean, president obama, everything he does, he is directed toward helping workers and that is what he believes, but on this issue, i think that hillary clinton is in the right place, which is that we have to put our full focus as a party, progressives, on uniting behind clear job creating measures like infrastructure, investing and manufacturers, like ensuring that we do not have a tax code
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that encourages outsourcing and inversions. she sees real challenges with this and i think she wants to put tpp in the rearview mirror and refocus. these are two great people that i'm honored to have worked with. they disagree. i think that trade is always very, very difficult, but as we say, i am with her. mark: the secretary clinton think globalization is good for american workers? >> i think she thinks one of the great challenges of our time is to ensure that globalization and technology are shaped by our policies in a way that strengthens the middle class as opposed to hollow out the middle class. i think she feels we have not, she feels that president obama came into office wanting to deal with the issues that had to focus so much on saving the country from a possible great depression. i think she has the ability to come in now with a focus that has a single focus which is, yes, globalization, technology,
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our realities that they do not have to have the kind of impact that create inequality, hurt american middle-class wages. that is why she is going to have a comprehensive plan on for certain -- on infrastructure, manufacturing, people that one for your colleges and apprentices. that is why she love a comprehensive strategy. i think if you talk to her, you would say she thinks the single focus we have to have is to make sure these forces, these powerful forces are shaped in a way that they strengthen the great american middle-class as opposed to halloween it out and have any weaker wage growth and inequality. unfortunately, that is what we have seen over the last 15, 16 years. john: you had a pretty important role in shaping president economic goals.
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putting people first would be the first words out of my mouth, a phrase i know you are familiar with. do that for hillary clinton, do not spend more than 30 seconds. what is her case on the global economy? >> the theory of the case is that we need to focus all of our tax, trade, manufacturing and skill policies on the bottom line of whether they are creating good, high wage jobs in the united states. we cannot assume just because something might be good for the profit bottom line of a country or an individual that it is necessarily what is best for middle-class workers and people striving to be in the middle class. that is the lens she is going to put all of her policies through. one of the things that are not just good for gdp or the productivity of one company, what are the things that are good for creating a strong among middle-class jobs, strengthening the middle class and providing greater security in a changing economy? that includes things like health care, pensions, paid families, things that are critical whether
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a family feels they are raising children with dignity. mark: does she think the united states should have more manufacturing jobs are moved toward a service economy? >> she believes that we should and can have more manufacturing jobs. she has a "make it in america" plan. it has benefits to the economy. what we have to do is pass a modern manufacturing plant that realizes the strength is not just in the big manufacturing factories but in the supply change. in. what we saw when saving the automobile company, not just saving the big companies when all of these small businesses, the suppliers, creating a web of strength. it makes people want to stay in the united states, not leave it makes more people want to, and locate to the united states gives of the benefit, the connections to suppliers in the university. lotarea you will hear a
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from her, making the tax code more patriotic. they are talking about moving jobs overseas, moving profits overseas he will see her want to shape the tax code to reward people that are investing in manufacturing and the coal communities or the types of things that are creating good, middle-class paying jobs in the united states. that will not be a five point, that will be her single focus by which she looks at all of her economic policies. john: speaking with extraordinary and unusual brevity on "with all due respect ." we love having you on. thank you so much. coming up, we will communicate with two communication experts, after this. ♪
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welcome back. join now by two people, met bennett and with us from dallas, former press secretary mindy tucker. thank you for coming. what have you learned about donald trump in the last week that you did not know before if anything? >> or do you mean how much worse has a cotton, maybe? -- gotten, maybe? >> i do not think anyone has learned anything different. we might have learned a few things of the convention that made us a little that more interested or saw a different side of him, but he came straight out of the convention saying the same kinds of things and it is disappointing. mark: you are in never trump
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land. donald trump, is he doing anything now despite all of the horrible stuff, is or anything that is making you think, maybe this guy is formidable? >> not in the last couple of days, obviously. the past week, if we had gotten into a room with a bunch of democrats and drawn on the whiteboard what they wanted him to do, this would pretty much be it. that said, anyone that thinks this race is over is crazy. there is no question that he carries broad appeal and that things can change and there will be big surprises. nobody should take anything for granted. john: you are in a group called third way. if i ran a group and i was that they convention in philadelphia, i would've taken cyanide at the end of the week. way to clinton pulled the left on a ton of issues. are you not worried about where she now is on policies? >> i and not, exactly. a couple things. one, the party has changed
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dramatically on national security. as you pointed out, flags, usa, generals, toughness, internationalism is pretty new to my party, and i think we are very encouraged by that. the party is totally unified on social issues, so there is no concern there. on the economy, and you spoke to jean about this, she has gone a little further left than we were hoping, but democrats, they campaign protections. you govern slightly differently. when she gets in there, she would be the first democratic candidate to take office -- john: you think she is lying about tpp? >> let me be fair, i do not think she is lying. i think she is being completely honest. difficult to be a protectionist. mark: mindy, if you were sitting in paul ryan's office right now
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and got the word on what donald trump did yesterday in the "washington post" and you understood all of the things he is facing with his members and the base, what would you advise him to do? >> he is in a tough spot. that contention in congress and in any legislature that is that trump, angry, i am not taking it anymore, no one hears me group is very hard to deal with. i think the primary objective for all of republicans, especially the never trumpers needs to be the down the ballot races. nobody wants to make a different decision -- a decision on these candidates. if i was paul ryan, i would be campaigning for anyone i could be campaigning for. i would be working to make sure that when hillary likely get there, we have a front mounted to deal with what she is going to do. john: your view is that he should maintain his endorsement
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of donald trump no matter what? >> i do not understand why he endorsed him in the first place. i think he was worried if hillary won, who would come back and blame him? i think at this point, he does not need to do the whole back-and-forth, the children fighting over the ball at the playground. i think he needs to focus on his job, do what he has to do, not focus on the noise each day of the trunk campaign, get into these races and do what he needs to do to make sure the republican congress is there no matter what happens. question have a for mindy? >> don't you think if you see a guy who is manifestly unfit to be commander-in-chief, isn't it their job to say so? the first duty of a federal elected official is to protect the country. how can you say you are protecting the country if he is unfit to be president? >> i agree. i think that is why there are some new republicans that say,
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"not a chance. i am not voting for him." i think the important thing to look at is why trump is where he is. i have been in dallas and i have a full understanding of the people that are angry, feel they have not been listened to come up what you can not done their job and donald trump is the only person that even halfway spoke to them. i think we need to understand that if we need to move forward and elect people in this country. it is fine to say he is not fit to be commander-in-chief, not qualified to be president and we all agree with that, but i think we need to understand if we are going to stay in politics and get other people elected. mark: some looking at what president obama said, to make it impossible for them to switch, keep them all married up with donald trump. how do you see that? >> that is an interesting theory. i do not think he is doing it that dramatically. he had just come out of a meeting with a foreign leader. every foreign leader he has spoken to the last few months h my god, said, "o hm
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what is going on with donald trump?" i think he was speaking his mind. i think you are saying the same thing i was saying, he is unfit to be commander-in-chief and that is important for republicans to say it. mark: thank you for joining us in studio. mindy tucker, nice to see you back with real people and texas so you understand what is actually going on in america. i think that is good for all of us. john: your california bias is showing through. mark: thank you to your both. we will be back. ♪
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john: we have this new big fox news poll, hillary clinton of 40 9%. 9% -- 49%-30 9%. she is killing it with the obama coalition. you have 12% of republicans that support hillary clinton. mark: she is winning big even though people do not trust her still. john: you can read more of this on our website bloombergpoli tics.com. until tomorrow, for mark and me, we say to you -- mark: sayonara.
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power and they will have nuclear weapons much sooner than you think and they have plenty of money and they have plenty of everything now. ripped hillaryo clinton, telling supporters she should receive an award as the founder of islamic state. mike pence is breaking with mr. trump by endorsing paul ryan it has primary fight. the move comes after donald trump said in an interview, "he is just not quite there when it comes to backing ryan who has been critical of trump." commutingobama is sentences. almost all were serving time for nonviolent drug offenses. most will be released december 1. michael phelps, the most decorated athlete and olympic history will carry the american flag for the opening ceremonies in rio.
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