john: welcome boys and girls and political children of all ages to the best of "all do respect." hillary enjoys what looks to be a sizable convention bump. donald trump had a rougher week. controversies ranging from his battle with a gold star family to his refusal to back prominent republicans running for reelection. a new batch of national and state polls suggest that new cycle after betty cycle finally caught up to the republican nominee. a new national survey once again shows hillary clinton leading donald trump by double digits. this one is from -- it shows clinton leading trump up 15 points, 48%-33%. up in that poll by 10 points. clinton and the fox poll no longer trails on compete trace on who is more honest and trustworthy. the trend is not just national, but in four new key state polls that says trump has mentioned as key to his victory vision. donald trump: we have a lot of states in play. they will degrade in michigan. they will be great in

pennsylvania. in new hampshire on leading by a lot. and i'm going to win in florida. john: how is trump actually doing those things? one has wanted up by six points in florida. wbor has her up by 17 in new hampshire. a poll by frank brandon marshall says 11 points in pennsylvania. in michigan, clinton is beating trump by 10 points according to a detroit news survey. michigan is not a must win state for trump, but this could foreshadow some real problems for trump in the midwest, the rust belt and other states with large suburban populations. only 65% of strong republicans in michigan are supporting the party's nominee. that is most prominent in the servers around detroit. libertarian candidate gary johnson is pulling 16% of all republican votes, more than double what is getting statewide. this comes almost entirely from trump defections and driven largely by white republican men. similar thing happening in western michigan as well.

mark, we like to say the polls are always snapshots. and these are really bad polls for donald trump. how that are the? mark: polls are just a snapshot. this is a snapshot of a severed arm. the arm is off. they will have to put the arm back on. the only good news for trump in these is that it's a wake-up call for him to change his ways. he loves polls, talks about them all the time. you can't be in denial now. you can then ounce one or two is being off, but this is a body of polling data that is derivative of the direct result of his poor performance. and the successful democratic convention we have august to fix it. >> there was a big lesson here. you will get a bump coming out of your convention. in combination, on the opposite side craters in light of historically horrible ways at the same time your opponent is rising.

i think the problem for trump is these numbers can now. log in for a long time he might not be able to move these numbers and it appreciable way until the first of 82 months away, more than a month away. these are bad, and they are not just bad. the national number shows his score is lower than we thought, but state polls and the attributes were trump had a lead on clinton. she has closed the gap are overtaken and a lot of them and i would be freaking out if i was the trunk campaign. mark: and they have money now. do you really want to spend money on august advertising to try to fix her poll numbers in august? john: while everyone is watching the limits? probably not. mark: it has given the never trumpers a big i told you so moment to say this guy is bad news for the whole party. you can't assume he will give polling numbers good anytime soon. john: and it's freaking everyone out. mark: last 24 hours of broad reports of republican discord, including to congressman who are the latest to distance themselves and their parties standardbearer.

adam kinzinger told cnn after last week he doesn't think he can support trump november. mike coffman is not running a tv ad vowing if he wins reelection he will stand up to trump if he is president. trump's team is fighting back. paul manafort was on cbs this morning and he tried for the second day in a row to move his campaign, for the perception of the campaign back on track. >> we are comfortable about where we are. well we are not comfortable with is the narrative that the media seems to be taking, which is building a story line that the democrats are controlling the race.

of whole numbers were expected. in two weeks we think they'll even out if we are on message. he will support paul ryan, he does support paul ryan. he says he will work with paul ryan. there is no issue about that he did take a position in the primary. he is not taking a position in many primaries. that is not the news. the news is that working together to elect a republican congress and a republican president and i think you will see that. john: paul ryan, speaker of the house in a radio interview in green bay, despite trump's refusal to endorse him stood by the nominee. paul ryan: the only endorsement i want are those of my own employers in the first congressional district. that is really what my focus is. i said at that time and ever since then if i see a situation where our conservative principles are being distorted, i will center for those conservative principles. none of these are ever a blank check. that goes for any situation in any kind of race.

john: that's a little honest the ryan will be supportive. in virginia beach, trump's number one defender, mike pence, who broke with him, sided with trump saying the ryan thing was based on his friendship. another new cycle has come and gone. where do you think stand between trump and the republican party? john: i will say something maybe controversial in the context of this discussion given how horrible many of the last few days for trump are, you could say it was not a terrible day. the polling numbers i think are going to hit like a ton of bricks from republicans who, at the interest discussion, were already freaking out. now the are seeing maybe the signs at the bottom is falling out. i don't think any will listen the paul manafort and say i think we will be back on message soon.

trump to be bottoming out in the low 30's, that's a bad day for trump it will not do anything to help him stitch the party back together. mark: a lot of republicans look at the fox news mantra that the polls are all crooked. look at the crowds. look out that hillary clinton is. they are donors helping trump who are quietly not helping trump, working on some of them getting on this program. there are politicians who were now strategizing with their staffs to say how to get untangled from trump. mike coffman will be the only want to do this. and mike pence patching things up. trump will show more discipline. let's talk later about how much that means. right now nothing matters with the party as much as the polls. the polls are poison. john: they are about self-interest. i would say please, republicans, do not talk about crooked polls and how the polls -- remember 2012?

you said all that stuff then. you were disastrously wrong. when we come back, you don't want to miss our interview with two trumpers, including the national spokesperson katrina pearson on the show. that is next.

>> joining us now to talk about donald trump's weekend is campaign national spokesperson katrina pearson live from dallas. and morse epstein, welcome to you both. katrina, thank you for joining us. we want to do on the show for a long time. how do you feel about the totality of what donald trump has said? as a person? katrina: i feel that this is something i've been expecting, just being on the grassroots side of the republican party for a long time. this election was going to be rough and tough and i fully expected the democrats to do it they do best, that is to politicize everything. >> if i could just ask you to focus on what i asked you. how do you feel about mr. trump -- katrina: that is how i feel. >> you commented on the media, not about what he said. katrina: every time i go in a tv show it is to correct the record

or to explain something a journalist with the democrats are taken out of context. if you're asking me how i feel, i feel donald trump is not your typical politician and does what he always does. he defends himself an attack. the media and the democrats are not used to a republican who has a backbone that is going to fight back. mark: i appreciate all your saying. i left one more time, how do you feel about as a person about mr. trump said about the khan's? katrina:. he has been defending himself like he always has mark: what you feel? morris: i was fine with what he said. let's start with this. i myself, the trump campaign, katrina and mr. trump have the other was respect for captain khan, for his parents, for their loss, for their sacrifice. mark: would it be better if you decide that in the initial comments? boris: he is someone who is attacked by mr. khan. it was a bipartisan speech. he was at the dnc. it was a partisan affair. he spoke in a partisan way. it was an attacking speech. donald trump reacted to the speech.

some of the comments directed to george stephanopoulos, i am time of what he said. john: veterans, republican veterans, democratic veterans have come out and said this guy paid ultimate price defending his country. his parents have the right to say what they want. you say what to those veterans of both parties who are deeply and profoundly offended by what mr. trump said? boris: they, like mr. trump, have the right to their opinion. i happen to disagree. i think goldstar parents do deserve upmost respect, absolute respect. but do they get to say whatever they want? john: you are saying it's wrong to be offended? boris: who says that? john: the veterans group. boris: mr. trump has the right to be offended by thing said about him. taking the comments -- mark: one of mr. trump's close confidant is roger stone. he has accused mr. khan of being

part of a radical muslim group tied to the egyptian muslim brotherhood. he now tweeted he is correct in the record saying that is not true, the association with the saudi jihadi and a 9/11 funder. do you want to associate yourself with those accusations of roger stone or do you have a responsive at? katrina: you'll have to ask roger stone. he is not a part of the campaign and i don't represent him. you will take that up with mr. stone. mark: you have no comment on somebody doing that, even from the context -- katrina: i don't know what roger stone is talking about so you will have to talk to him about that. i can't sit here and try to tell you something i know nothing about. although i do appreciate the efforts to try to tie him to the campaign. i say again, roger stone is not a part of the campaign and you will need to talk to him. john: do you consider the matter with the khans to be over and done with?

katrina: i do, absolutely. mr. trump responded after the speech. it was mr. khan who did the tv shows and mr. trump responded again. mr. trump made clear he had nothing to do with the death of mr. khan's son who is definitely a war hero. it's disconcerting on why this attack was even lodged at mr. trump, considering mr. trump had nothing to do with the iraq war. hillary clinton voted for it and she didn't support the troop surge, and then wanted to go to afghanistan. and the failures in libya. donald trump had nothing to do with that man's son. mark: when you think is going on with mr. trump's comments about the debate schedule? boris: if you look at the schedule, two debates are scheduled. i don't know if you are fans were not.

it is worrying that some folks may not be watching the debates. we want as many people as possible to watch the debates. you saw what happened at the democratic primary with the e-mails. they tried to put the debates on christmas eve, new year's day. something to that effect. we want to make sure the same thing doesn't happen in the presidential debate. john: do you think he is fully committed to doing three debates that have become the standard for the presidential candidates? boris: that is what i understand. that is what i understand and i think the issue here really is about the dates of the debates in the ether they maximize the amount of viewership, and minimize as the democrats did in their primary with hillary hurting bernie sanders in that way. >> is not i the ballgame, national holiday, not monday october with there is nothing that doesn't conflict with this.

what you guys propose to do about the problem? boris: the negotiations are ongoing. they just only to have them on nfl football days. tuesdays and wednesdays, i understand there are playoffs, which are not historically as widely viewed as sunday night and monday night games. >> i know you're long minute critic of the press are being liberally biased. the thing hillary clinton is getting easier coverts and mr. trump. what is your clearest example of that? katrina: i do think hillary clinton has got some passes. we do hear occasionally when she goes on television and lies again about the e-mail scandal in benghazi, but we don't see with mrs. clinton one sentence pulled completely out of context in a headline created around that to this day i have nothing anyone in the media correct the record with regard to esther trump's immigration ban on muslims.

the media has proposed his ban was for all muslims, including u.s. citizens which was not the case. it was always in contact with immigration and always in the context of being temporary until he can figure out who the individuals were coming into this country. that is just an example. mark: initially it wasn't clear, but now it seems to have shifted to being a policy having to do with countries rather than all muslims. and yet the candidate himself is never enunciated that in a policy. is that unambiguously the policy of the campaign? not a ban on muslims but a ban on people from countries were there seems to be problems? and why does the candidate sent that way? katrina: it was a refined message considering. if you go to the website and look at her his policy, you will

find that. he does talk about the clarification because the media is not reporting the correct policy position for mr. trump. >> what was the reason of the change to go from a ban on muslims, a temporary ban to immigration from certain countries? katrina: the media never reported it as an immigration policy. the media continued to report it as a flat out ban on all muslims. >> eventually it was reported there was a temporary ban on all muslims immigrating to the country. it was then switched apparently to a ban on people from certain countries. what was the reason that's the rationale for the change? katrina: it's a matter of national security. again, the original ban was temporary until we can figure out what has gone on. since then fbi director, he said we cannot vet these individuals are certain areas. cia has confirmed.

mr. trump one of the clarify it will be from those nations were potential terrorists could come into the country. >> katrina pearson, great to have you on the program finally. katrina: great to be here. >> boris, thank you for coming in. we will be back with dueling strategies from both sides of the aisle.

>> joining us from washington, d.c. is cofounder of purple strategies, steve mcmahon. and a republican strategist for marco rubio's campaign works at firehouse strategies, alex, you first. how bad is this trump conversation with the khans. what can he do to fix it? alex: it is bad but it's also in the moment no we have 99 days to go. i don't a lot of people will recover this moment three months from now. i think it's endemic of a larger message. they don't need to be talking about this, russia, or how gdp numbers given a friday were awful. how the state that matter, ohio and pennsylvania, unemployment is not where it should be. they need to be talking about

the economy and trump is talking about anything but the economy. as a republican strategist and wants to see republicans do well, when he the top of the ticket talking about the economy and messages the work for us. what he has been talking about is not working. >> steve, i bet you will not agree as well beyond voters minds? alex: one thing the trunk campaign is good at is extending up that story into three or four or five days. we have 99 days left. every day you lose is a big opportunity. alex is right. this is a campaign that seems to have no message, no discipline, and a candidate that doesn't know the ukrainians -- the russians are in crimea and so many other things. it's not a good day to be a trump supporter. john: we've been very hard on trump for all the obvious reasons over this khan thing. if this goes on for days and days and the khans he doing interviews, it will look like democrats are trying to milk this controversy, or there is a risk of that. how does the clinton campaign avoid making it look like it is

overly politicizing something that shouldn't be politicized and donald trump caused this by politicizing it himself. is there a risk for themselves, the democrats? alex: i don't see any evidence of the clinton campaign is -- you have the khans going out there in saint donald trump to get his facts straight. he should chill out. the trump campaign manager donald trump himself are continuing to attack. they are walking themselves into this hole and complaining they are in the hole they are in. i don't see any for dissipation from the clinton campaign. you are right if that were true or evident, it could be a problem. right now is the trump campaign manager itself. mark: it'salso between the primary election in the general election. steve: it started last thursday and it would hillary clinton took the nomination.

in the primary election, i think trump can bulldoze through these controversies because there is not enough opposition to sustain the spotlight on this, on any particular incident. now we are in the general election you do see the dnc and the clinton campaign and the senate candidates coming under pressure to comment on this from reporters, their opposition, democratic operatives, people like yourselves. that is the difference now. john: if i could, i think alex is right. there was one more element that seems to be present that wasn't during the campaign. it is easy for donald trump and it's only 20 or 25 reporters covering his campaign to bamboozle through them. you have everyone in the world, every reporter and journals in the world paying attention to this.

you can't bully every reporter in the world. he's finding that out. john: we are all hearing trumps a controversial things, now this. we all say maybe this won't be the thing that kills him. as we get closer to election day and more of the available voters focus on this, is there a chance something like this, whether it's this or something that follows, will it be a moment were suddenly it really is the thing that finally does him in? alex: he is right around 40% in every single poll and he has been for months. the good news for him is that that 40% i don't think is likely to go. he said he could shoot someone on fifth avenue and a 40% is not going anywhere. 40% is not going to be hillary clinton when you look at the electoral map. how does he go to the 45% he needs, at least it is going to be competitive and win in november. the statements taken off message and do not bring new voters to the polls.

>> gene sterling is here. thank you for coming on the

show. talk about the campaign momentarily and the outsourcing push that the campaign is putting on right now. i want to ask you about resident obama yesterday who made an argument about why tpp is still in america's interest. what's your view about that? are you now in disa-agreement with your president on this issue? always hard when you're he child and mom and dad disagree. i think president obama he is ing he does directed towards helping workers and that's what he believes. issue hillary clinton is in the full place. have to unite -- like ensuring that we don't have a tax code that encourages and inversions. and she sees real challenges with this. tpp in she wants to put

the rear-view mirror and be focusing. listen, these are two great people i'm honored to have worked with. they disagree. i think trade is always a very difficult issue. but as we say i'm with her. >> gene, does secretary clinton think globalization is good for american workers? what she thinks isna one of the great challenges of ur time is to ensure that globalization and technology are being shaped by our pop policies in a way that strengthens the middle class as opposed to middle class. she feels president obama came deal office wanting to with those issues but had to ocus so much on saving the country from a possible great depression, i think she has the bility to come in now with a focus.that as a single

that's why she's going to have a plan on infrastructure, education,ng, higher our-year colleges and apprenticeships. coding credentials. her, think if you talk to you would say that she thinks the single focus we have to have forces, e sure these these powerful forces are being haped in a way where they strengthsen the great american middle class as opposed to it out and having weaker wage growth. unfortunately that's what we've 15, 16 years last >> you had a pretty important shaping president clinton's economic agenda and theory of the case.

of the case onry the global economy? >> we need to focus all of our manufacturing and skill policies on the bottom line of whether they're creating high-wage jobs in the united states. we can't assume that just because something might be good profit bottom line of a ompany or an individual it's necessarily what's best for middle class workers and people in the middle class. that's the lens she's going to put her policies through. what are things that are not just good for gdp or the company but or one what are the things that are strong creating the middle class jobs and providing reater security in a changing economy. that includes healthcare, family leave.

she believes we can and should have more manufacturing jobs. in america ke it plan and the understanding is that manufacturing is like development. it has benefits to the economy. have at we have to do is odern manufacturing plan that realizes strength is also in the supply chain. saving the in automobile company was it wasn't just saving the big companies. saving all the small businesses and suppliers. creates a member of makes people want to stay in inform the united states and not leave and others to the united states because of the benefits. one area you'll hear from her is making our tax code more patriotic. right now there's lots of moving

jobs overseas and moving profits overseas. her want to shape the tax code. oal communities or hard hit communities or the type of things that are creating big jobs in the paying united states. single l be the her focus by which she looks at all policies.nomic >> all right. xtraordinary and unusual concision here. congress situation con situation hh

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frjts we're back with the host of face the nation. ohn, thank you for sticking around. there's an incredible array of good stories in this book. fantastic read. what's the most relevant story in the book to understanding in 2016. pening >> you have to go to wallace in he tapped into an anger with regular blue collar the elites. and the crux of it was the elites make these decisions that you pay for and we're not going stand for it anymore. you get the idea that wallace said he speaks his mind. there was this sense that wallace said something other current and that feels like the most echos. the most enduring ysteries in presidential politics. new hampshire.

tears or snow? >> i think tears but not the he was talking about. he gets a truck. calls reporters in. has snow in his hair. he starts talking about his wife. so there's the letter with the accusation that he used a slur what gets him undone is talking about his wife which her.s fun of water inite about gold this book. obviously some people hope and goldfear trump will be the water of are this party this time around. it was a movement.

you had 19 republican governors trying to stop gold water and still couldn't do it. nixon's line is the best, if there's ever a stop x be with x ou want to because it means they're doing well enough that they're going fight.ail in this but when you hear governor ockefeller speak at the 64 convention and get booed, it feels similar to what happened this last in republican convention. another parallel. >> another great story about jfk. as a catholic going into west over ia and trying to win people there. >> he's furious that all of us at the time or the versions of his win in me say wisconsin was just a catholic win. n other words he's trying to build up his credentials and t's written off by just a thing.ous

e grabbed the issue by the throat and took it on head on. wins in west virginia. didn't want to have. but when he wins he says i still won the issue is dead. it wasn't quite dead but that it was for retend the purposes of the democratic convention. i'll ask you about another mystery. one of the great photo opes ever. mike dukakis in that tank. he there? >> the bush campaign had been about a systemic effort to tear by point.oing point he doesn't patriotic. too weak. far left. the aclu. this was an attempt to build him up as a national security candidate. gave a big speech on national security that day that was lots of good h

ideas. to the picture was meant match with that. when the tank as moving, he had to wear the helmet. everyone went with helmet on and like somebody k doing something just for the show. there was a big manhood fight in because as you both remember the wimp factor george w. bush, both were trying to prove they were men who could handle the office. dickerson, thank you so much. his new book. it is an incredible book tea you have to buy it. it's called whistle stop. and it's available right now. john's also listen to show, "face the nation" on bloomberg radio. still ahead, strong polling numbers came out for the clinton campaign this week. we'll break them down, trends and digits when we come back.

the polls have been coming in fast and furious this week. same story. the hillary clinton is getting a solid bounce out of philadelphia. today a new survey showing 50-42.n leading trump yesterday we talked about a new cnn poll showing her beating

52-43. we're going to take a deeper numbers with these our chief pollster who joins us now from des moines. it seems clear that clinton gotten some edge out of her convention. et's talk about independents first. what has happened? >> convince those that -- we've to look at.polls one conducted before the emocratic convention and one conducted after. same methodology. so it gives us a good confidence we're looking at real change. in poll that cnn published july showed trump leading by 15

points. the poll published after the emocratic convention had hillary clinton up by seven points. so those independents either were loosely affiliated with trump or had not really chosen a candidate yet. what they saw at the convention for now appears to have made more of them to decide, to join the hillary clinton champ. about gender. what do you see in the breakdown women. men and >> one other thing the convention needs to help you do base.re up your women tend to vote democratic woman cardu have the that hillary clinton wanted to up at the convention. woman base.rong 57% supporting her. he's also up with men by 6 points. she didn't pull those men over from trump. he stayed steady interestingly

in those two polls at 50%. so it was more those undecided at a haps looking different party who decided they'd seen what they needed to that hillary clinton is their candidate. >> and before and after their clinton obviously had an advantage with non-white do.rs as democrats does that account at all for the increase? yes. she's up 14 points with the non-white voter. 80%. brings her to that's a huge number which must complimentary rule that donald trump's number is really really lagging. he now gets 15% of the nonwhite vote. hat's down several percentage points for him. of the s the part electorate that's fast growing. onald trump is moving in the

wrong direction with that group. >> in the history of bounces, do they endure and how often do they settle back down? >> it's so different from convention to convention, candidate to candidate. thinking spending time physics.ton's laws of you would expect from a bounce back into to come main place where of settled.nd it's homeostasis point. it tends to not be an active really month and through labor day you have to think that the clinton campaign resources may think it can -- p given that they have

is resources and that trump having kind of daily difficulties. curious what the campaign tees up in august. anne, thank you very much. thanks for watching this edition of with all due respect. if you're watching in washington to us ou can now listen on bloomberg 99.1fm. monday.e you until then, sionara.

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