>> with the father of the man responsible for the orlando massacre doing at a hillary clinton rally? >> the campaigns are being questioned over a couple of spotted at the rally. >> trump had an expected supporter of his own. >> another controversial guest was spotted at a campaign rally. >> trump's campaign released a statement tuesday saying it disavows his support. ♪

mark: greetings from the great city of angels. , hillaryogram tonight clinton offers a rebuttal to donald trump's speech on monday. her plan includes investing billions in infrastructure spending, tuition-free in-state college for middle-class families, and an exit tax for companies trying to move abroad. while hillary clinton said some 's her remarks trashing trump proposals, a lot of which she did today, is a more upbeat, optimistic set of ideas. secretary clinton: we have a lot of urgent, important work to do, and that's what i want to talk about today. all of the people i have met throughout this campaign really prove how wrong this and negative, pessimistic view is. america's best days are still

ahead of us if we make up our minds to actually go out and make that happen, starting on day one. we will work with both parties to pass the biggest investment in new, good paying jobs since world war ii. ruleswould roll back the we have on our financial industry. i think we should strengthen those rules so wall street can never wreck mainstreet again. then there's the estate tax, eliminatep wants to altogether. if you believe he is as wealthy as he says, that alone would save the trump family $4 billion. for 99.8% ofothing americans. they would get a $4 billion tax cut, and 99 when 8% of americans

99.8% of nothing -- americans would get nothing. think of what we could do. we could pay for 44 million veterans get a college degree. we could provide a years worth of health care to nearly 3 million kids. mark: trump also weighing in on the economy today after getting criticized last week for releasing a list of economic advisers that contain all men. trump's campaign expanded that eightoday by adding women. the campaign also put out a statement before clinton's speech that read, "hillary clinton is running to keep things as they are. clinton's plan today will short-circuit our economy by raising taxes, increasing spending, and killing jobs." did she propose some good policies? was what she did and how she said it good politics? donnie: what i thought was fantastic was basically, she picked up the tone of the

convention of the democrats, whereas in trump's economic speech, he was still leak and dark, and i think this who wedum has become think we are as a country. it was democrats 101, just like trump was republicans 101 from an economic point of view. what i think was strong about her speech was she pivoted very strong into trump. i still cannot for the life of me figure out why they included that is state tax benefit. it is such an easy target for the rich. to me, it is an easy, easy target. jobs, infrastructure, small business business 101, meat and potatoes. is part of the current clinton strategy of do not take a lot of risks, keep the base together, highlight areas where trump is either on or highlight an issue

which only affects the very, very wealthy. you would be hard-pressed to hear that speech and have a great deal of confidence that this is a person who totally gets how to turn the economy around after eight years of any sluggish growth, but as i said, she's not interested in taking risks right now, and i thought she pretty effectively ended the day with that street -- with that speech, putting trump somewhat on the defensive and not opening herself up to any attacks that were not strictly partisan. you made the key point. everything she does at this point should make her as invisible as possible. that speech fades into the woodwork. nothing in it is going to provoke any new thing and nothing in it is going to raise eyebrows. every day that goes by shifts that -- back to trump. what she tried to a compass today i think was a winning bid for her. mark: we will talk about if the

, but iwas purely liberal will say, her ability to make arguments now and get a lot of coverage is pretty limited because trump, as we are about to discuss, is still taking up a lot of space. >> donald trump billionaire taking heat for something he said in a campaign rally, where he made his remarks by claiming that president obama and secretary clinton cofounded islamic state. he has had several opportunities to walk back or clarify this hyperbole, but all day today, the donald doubled down. : i called president obama and hillary clinton the founders of isis. i think we will give hillary clinton -- you know if you are on a sports team, most valuable player, m.v.p. -- you get the

m.v.p. award? isis will hand her the most valuable player award. her only competition is barack obama, between the two of them. democrats continue to jump on this remark, including the clinton campaign, which put out a statement that read in part, "this is an example of donald trump trash talking the united states, echoing the sentiments of vladimir putin to attack american leaders in american interest while failing to offer any serious plan to make america more secure." also asking him to open up and explain why he is taking this very controversial approach. >> they lost the peace. they created the libyan vacuum into which isis came, but they did not create isis. i would just use different language. mr. trump: but they would not talk about your language and they do talk about mine. >> good point. is "i'm aware of

what i'm doing and i'm doing it just to stir the pot." i don't think it is premeditated. i think it is one more drop he leaves on the floor. do you think this defense of trump is a good one? mark: i think it is a mistake at this point. i understand he likes to dominate the news and he can look act on his history and see when he is a provocative showman and as things that literally no one else would say on the national stage, he gets more attention, but his biggest problems right now are showing the filter and showing the people that he has the temperament to be president, and that he creates news and areas that really helped him, and i do not think either of those things are achieved by making the kind of over-the-top statements that he makes. donny: if you go deeper, he actually contradicted what his campaign people said he was really saying. if what he was really saying was he was trying to galvanized second amendment people and get them out to vote, he is

admitting he wants to say controversial things, so in a strange way, he is de facto admitting the very things we were concerned he was actually saying. applyalthough not as many to that case, but i do take your point. he does think he can beat hillary clinton on foreign policy, despite that she was secretary of state. i just do not think being this provocative, when he is acknowledging he is doing it to be provocative, is the way to get people to focus on the substance of his charge. he has to be confident that his ideas are strong enough that they can get attention, not just using over the top rhetoric that again, literally no one else would use. donny: the one thing he has in his favor at this point is trump fatigue, and no matter what he says, i don't think it even raises that many eyebrows anymore. this has raised some. got to take a break. when we come back, more from hillary clinton's economic speech today after this word

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mark: let's take now what they ss a closer tv bidne look at hillary clinton's speech today at a factory in warren, michigan. let's start with the part where she seemed to go out of her way to empathize with the working class and the struggles they face. secretary clinton: it is just too hard to get ahead today. but there are common sense things that your government can do that would give americans more opportunities to succeed. why don't we do it? because powerful special interests and the tendency to

put ideology ahead of political progress have led to gridlock in congress. not be can you frustrated and even angry when you see nothing getting done? a lot of people feel no one is on their side and no one has their back, and that is not how it is supposed to be in america. to bem fortunate enough your president, i will have your back every single day that i serve. [applause] mark: that could have been bernie sanders. it could have been donald trump. republicans are trying to paint her as out of touch. how does she do today in coming across as someone who gets the struggles of working-class people? she is staying at 10,000 feet up. you and i could have written that speech. strangely, that's the good news for her. every day that goes by that nothing comes through in any way

that is critical about her and redirects to trump -- i find it interesting. if you go on the premise that 70% or 80% of bernie supporters will go for hillary at this point, let's say you say something that will turn them off, they wrote independent. but anything she says that would drop a voter away from trump, that is a net positive because she gets one away from trump and he loses one, so i would move her a little bit more to the center. she getsre's no doubt working-class people better than her image and the republicans say she does, but i still incur biggest weakness as a candidate and my biggest worry if she got elected is she just does not give off a sense, not just of understanding working-class people, but having a sense of how the economy can work in the current age. i think today was a big opportunity to do that.

she did not turn the speech past as she has in some speeches into just an attack on away, and i did not come understanding it anymore than people who are averse to it. donny: clinton's speech was all programs, standard democrats love. secretary clinton: here is something you do not always hear enough of from democrats. a big part of our plan will be unleashing the power of the private sector to create more jobs at higher pay. right now, the smaller businesses, like the kind my dad more to prepare their taxes, compared to larger companies.

it should be as easy as printing out a bank statement. let's free entrepreneurs to do what they do best -- grow, innovate, hire. if you want to go to a safe place, you either use the words "small business" or "entrepreneurs," because that yet,dles business, but it's the little guy in the shoe shop. that's the easiest way to blanket and say you're somewhere in the middle. mark: dennis kucinich could have said that stuff. it's clear that on policy, she is comfortable running centerleft and not doing

anything to say to the party in a serious policy-oriented way we need to make some changes. donny: the fact that trump is going very traditional her to stayllows populist and does not have to move from there. mark: clearly distancing herself from president obama and not ceding ground on this issue to donald trump. secretary clinton: i will stop any trade deal that kills jobs or holds down wages, including the transpacific partnership. [applause] oppose itclinton: i now. i will oppose it after the election. i will oppose it as president. mark: there are people in michigan who care about free trade and people who would like the tpp to pass, but it seems obvious she is trying to convince everyone this is her position and trump is not going

to get to the populist left of her on trade. again, you stop somebody on the street and ask them what tpp is, and they may think it is a new rap group or something like that, but everybody knows it is a bad word right now. once again, i'm going to repeat myself -- she put the pooh-pooh there -- she put the pupu platter out there. next, how down ballot republicans and democrats are dealing with the trump factor in competitive races. ♪

down the ballot, donald trump has scramble just about everything that could possibly be scrambled in this election. in ohio, for instance, a state where their popular sitting governor refuses to endorse his party's candidate for president, both parties to and it blowing --typical turnout strategies both parties to the senate lowing up typical turnout strategies. strickland, the democrat, has started running and extruding very tv ad that highlights his biography but also leans heavily on issues that might as well be straight out of donald trump's mouth. >> the first in his family to go to college, his dad worked in a steel mill. his brothers finished concrete. that's why he has fought against .very bad trade deal

now ted strickland is running for the u.s. senate, calling for a moratorium on all new trade prove they we can can create american jobs. strickland: i came from a working-class family. i will always fight to make sure working people have a shot. >> ted strickland, ohio, heart and soul. mark: that the democratic challenger trying to appeal to trump voters. on the other side, the ohio republican party are trying to make an effort to turn out moderate democrats who would be the ones most likely to vote a split ticket vote for clinton and portman. a "washington post" reporter who wrote an article about all of this joins us now. thanks for coming on. karen: great to be here. mark: what is unusual about the

tactics the ohio were public and party are using to try to find and motivate clinton voters or other democrats? karen: the most unusual thing i found was after the democratic convention when hillary clinton and tim kaine took their big swing through ohio, portman's campaign actually dispatched volunteers to go to clinton and kaine events to hand out literature to tout his endorsement by unions that normally go for democrats like the teamsters. they were posting things on their facebook and twitter pages. "here are our volunteers at the clinton rally." buts rather extraordinary, as you suggest, poll numbers would suggest it is working. the same poll showed them tied, and in this case, there's a five-point lead

that has opened up for clinton and a i've-point lead that has opened up for portman. some moderatehas positions, most prominently coming out for same-sex marriage a few years ago. what makes the campaign think this could work, given the literature and academia showing that ticket splitting is not that common anymore? karen: it is not that common. it had, it was as low as been in more than 90 years. only 6% of congressional district in the entire country voted one way for the house member and another way for their president, but a lot of people are arguing that trend could change this year, in part because donald trump is so unpopular. and a lot of republicans, a lot theoderate voters -- for first time in a long time, people are talking about strategic voting, which is politics, unicorn of where you vote for one party for

president and vote for the other party as a brake on the president. they are counting on the fact that essentially both tickets are headed up i relatively unpopular people, which scrambled everything all the way down the ballot. i think 6% of congressional districts went the opposite of their presidency in 2012. i think there will be a for thee election reason you said. i think something emotional will happen in the voting booth for both -- for both candidates because no matter which way you vote, most people are voting begrudgingly. i think we will see that in record proportions here. karen: of course, the wildcard is people may he so turned off by the selection they do not show up at all, and that could also hurt somebody like portman in ohio because it is most likely to be the moderate republicans who do not show up at the polls.

voted split not ticket in a senate race and presidential race since 1988 when they voted for george herbert walker bush for president and howard metzenbaum for senate. portman is definitely running against recent history. mark: in ohio, portman and strickland looking for crossover appeal. there are other competitive senate races where these dynamics might also be in play. take pennsylvania, for instance, where a poll shows republican incumbent pat toomey is trailing his challenger, but just by four points in a race republicans have long known would be a problem. marco now, running for reelection to his histe seat, leading democratic challenger. in new hampshire, a recent poll shows republican incumbent kelly ayotte is down 10 points. real quick, will other

republicans, do you think, be tempted to do what portman has done and try to find them accredit votes to save ? emselves karen: they absolutely have no choice, but the problem becomes when you have a situation like new hampshire, if the bottom just flat out drops out of the presidential nominee, you could find yourself in a kelly ayotte situation where even if you are outperforming him, you are pretty far behind. onk: great pieces washingtonpost.com. when we come back, we will talk about donald trump's latest trip to the cover of "time" magazine and why the patience of some republican leaders might just be wearing thin. ♪ [ hip hop beat throughout ] [ fans cheering ]

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back. welcome tim, nick, thanks for joining the show. let's start with a "time" magazine cover about mr. trump. him kind of falling apart, if you will. one of the things in the story that was interesting is according to some insiders, people are telling trump, "you've got to take the gloves "priebus he is saying, is holding me back." go? do they want him to >> i hope they are sending him to issues. a path to somer success. >> but that is the opposite of taking gloves off. that is staying on message. i want to bring you in. we're coming off back-to-back that ouresting

president and woman running for president are cofounders of isis. do you agree with me, do everything you can to stay under the covers and let trump dominate the news cycle? : we're talking about how donald trump is uniquely president. to be he is out there saying incredibly dangerous and harmful things. the clinton campaign is out putting an optimistic vision for the country forward, and i think voters will decide who is better. between now and labor day, what is realistic for the trump campaign to get done in terms of their standing in the polls and any other metric you would want to use? tim: if they get that to the issues, there is hope for the republicans this year, certainly down ballot especially.

voters do not like their nominee. that is very clear. where americans are, 2/3 of americans think this country is on the wrong track. mark: do you agree with what we said earlier that hillary clinton seems to be largely trying to play it safe, and if you do agree, is that unambiguously a smart strategy? nick: i do not think she is trying to play it safe. i think she is out there trying to talk about the issues. i think donald trump is incapable of talking about the issues. he attempted to pivot to the on monday, and by monday night and tuesday, he was talking about the president of the united states being a terrorist and inciting violence against his opponent. i think she is doing the right thing, trying to keep it about

her vision for the country. i might disagree about what those visions are and where we should take the country, but i think she is the only candidate in the race attempting to do that right now. mark: hillary clinton's strategist and pollster said he thought trumps floor -- trump's floor was 40%. do you think that is correct or could he be lower? nick: i think that is about right. right now, he is alienating members of his own party. you see republican women fleeing in droves. i think that remains to be seen. there is currently core support for trump out there, but he is playing with the floor right now. donny: we talked about split ticket. point do folks sitting

there with their hands in the lapse right now sticking with say they have got to get out? is that a certain debate, a certain poll number? a debate.nk it is i think record viewership will be reached in the first debate. most voters are differentiating between the republican nominee for president and senate republicans and house republicans. i think that gives them an opportunity to make their case on the issues and to win in a very difficult environment. a place like pennsylvania with pat toomey where a bomb a one by over 2000 votes in 2012 and hillary has a significant lead -- where obama won by over 2000 votes in 2012. we are going to be doing a piece coming up in "the new

york times" about possibly more to come with a lot of hillary getting rid of their e-mails. is there any kind of proactive, settingc work going on, up a conspiracy theory? that could be the smoking gun. with we cannot coordinate the campaign. i'm sure they have strategies that they are pushing. a lot of the conspiracy theories right now are being pushed by folks who have been attacking the clintons since the 1990's on this issue. the campaign of the clintons have an focused on e-mail, and we have about 75 things donald trump is saying that make him uniquely unfit to be president of the united states, and that is what we will focus on as well. do you think democrats, officeholders and others, are by what she did and just are being quiet for the sake of expediency, or are they not bothered by what she did? nick: remember the line in the

debate with bernie sanders and hillary clinton, "we're tired of the e-mails?" democratsat is how feel a little bit. they get that it is a concern and hillary herself has said she would have done things different, but i think democrats are ready to move on and talk about issues, and i think that is what the campaign is doing. are a democrat and you are here, i will put you on the spot -- are you troubled by the degree to which she exposed sensitive information to being hacked? nick: no, i think there is always a way to look backwards and do things differently, but i think we are trying to move on and talk about the issues facing voters and their lives. let me just go again because i want to clarify. i did not really get an answer, the degree to which you were troubled. ? es that trouble you with the trouble you if a

republican had done at? nick: i don't think so. my personal belief is not incredibly important here. i think that the campaign has been very clear on this, that they personally -- hillary herself would have done things differently, but you know, we are trying to move on. donny: i'm going to turn that chair into the chief trump advisor chair. he basically said that our commander-in-chief is the founder of isis, and this morning, he says that's kind of the way he does things, and he likes to say provocative things. what with the strategy be for you, for what i call the always the day after trump? do you agree with him on doubling down? what is the playbook? tim: get to the economy. donny: this is the next day. he comes to the office in his bathrobe. you say, "donald, you did it

again, dude." tim: i'm telling you, i would tell him to drop this stuff and get to the economy -- donny: but he has to handle how -- handle what he did the day before. what is the correct response? tim: move on to the economy. this is an economy failing 94 million americans out of the work horse. the slowest economic growth for a so-called recovery in modern economic history. americans are not happy because this economy is not working for him. i think a lot of senate republicans are going to survive, and i would urge the republican nominee to do just that -- lay out an agenda, explain where the obama-clinton years have failed this country as an economy. the president's approval numbers

have been creeping up, and good for him, but the right track/wrong track is still a disaster. 2/3 of americans say we are on the wrong track -- donny: which obviously contradicts the 52% approval rating. tim: it does not contradict it. it's very nuanced. christieere did chris go? tim: i think mike pence is doing a nice job. thank you both. when we come back, a political hack, literally. and if you are watching us in washington, d.c., you can now listen to us on radio bloomberg. we will be right back. ♪

"the new york times" reporting that the democratic party data breach believed to a been done by russian hackers is -- believed to have been done by russian hackers is more pervasive than had been previously thought. targets, hillary clinton's campaign staffers. democrats are worried more are going toages surface. talking about this, the journalist behind the "new york times" story. thanks for coming on. this story has been in the news for a couple of weeks. just to put a finer point on the intro, what are you and your paper reporting that is new and, for democrats, troubling? >> basically, it's even bigger

and even worse than they thought. we knew a couple of weeks ago when the wikileaks trove of about 20,000 e-mails came out that the dnc had been hacked and the house fund-raising arm, had been hacked. it looks like it went well beyond that. intelligence committees are putting numbers on this that at least 100 accounts of personal and private e-mails, and that could go up. you're talking about material that is even more personal and potentially even more damaging, and democrats are kind of scrubbing their own files to see what could get out that is going to hurt us even more. mark: what do we know about that? what do we know about democrat'' after-action analysis of what might have been captured by the hackers and preparing for the worst? i have been asking that,

and the people i have asked are saying it is almost an impossible task to know what could be in tens of thousands of e-mails that could hurt us. twonly takes 102 -- one or embarrassing or throwaway lines in an e-mail that could prove in there as i think that could -- that they are preparing for all possibilities. newdnc is bringing in a panel of cyber security experts to prepare for maybe the next attack. that might be a little too late, sort of the worst is already out of the barn, and the damage could already be done by the time they get better defenses in place. safe to say that if this is true and we will be seeing various e-mails from 100 clinton staffers, that as a harbinger of things to come, we will all have to change the way

we communicate? we know that if you went into anybody's e-mail and went through six months of personal back and forth, you are going to find things that are just not going to seem right when you read them. decente well-intentioned human being, the way we communicate as people. forward, the way we communicate as a country and as a universe. i think that is true. there has been that sensitivity in washington the last few years. if you don't want to read it in a newspaper, don't put it in an e-mail. i think that is becoming much more of a real threat the last few months with the dnc hack being tied to the russians and wikileaks.om before that, the sony controversy last year where a few e-mails to and drum sony executives brought down a number of people. donny: not to do creative writing, but what would be the kind of thing that would be a

ender forre -- a game hillary clinton? what would be a worst-case scenario for her? mark: i think more meat on the bones of potential interaction between the foundation and state department would obviously be a problem or some court of quid pro quo regarding income the family got through speeches or what have you. as your question suggested, and as you see in the latest round of print and e-mail that came out, we talking about the last couple of days not through hacking, but through litigation. sometimes you take strands of things without the context. clinton folks are elected to supply the context in fall, but a lesstext would put negative light on what the e-mail might show. since your story came out, has anybody suggested new information that you are going to be publishing in the coming new cycle? -- news cycle? eric: we mentioned the cyber

security board the dnc will be putting in place. nothing in terms of specifics yet. quick, what is the role now of the fbi and other government agencies now that in erie, the russians have what they are going to take? what are they trying to do now after the fact? fbi's main goal is attribution, and they are highly confident, almost to the point of certainty, that it was two of services.n intel the question now is almost a diplomatic one. will the white house publicly accuse the russians of being behind this attack as they have done in a few isolated cases, in the past, like in north korea, or will they see no benefit to taking that course? the fbi will, of course, then also try to see if they can

it was thatw wikileaks came upon these e-mails. did the russian intelligence people give them directly to wikileaks, or more likely, were there cutouts, intermediary pastor -- intermediary passed through -- intermediary pass-through who then got it to wikileaks? was this your everyday intelligence gathering, things they do all the time, except it normally does not become public? mark: great story. look forward to more on this topic in coming days. thank you. coming up, donald trump gets philosophical about winning and losing. we discussed that when we come back. ♪

i willmp: once i get in, do my thing that i do very well. i think it's probably maybe the only way that i'm going to get to heaven, so i'd better do a good job. [laughter] trump addressing a meeting of pastors in orlando, florida, this afternoon in a the "ieparture from alone can fix it" message he delivered in cleveland. donald trump taking a more ambivalent posture on both winning and losing this general election. he did it this morning in a phone interview with cnbc. mr. trump: we will see what happens. i have a whole group of people that people do not even know about.

i had a rally last night with 10,000 people. we will see what happens. i'm giving a straight. i don't know that it will work because i'm a nonpolitical person and i'm proud of that, but i'm giving a straight. just keep doing the same thing of doing now, and at the end, it's either going to work, or i'm going to have a very, very nice long vacation. this is what trump said when he first got in the race. maybe he would not win. lately he has been more confident. we think this is a one-off, or a window into the psyche of the man? donny: we have set a number of times i know he wants to run and win. i don't know if he wants the job. this validates that. it is a silly strategy, the cousin suggest that you are on your way to losing, and it is so un-trump-like.

it is so counterintuitive to who it is that invalidates my initial point that maybe he does not even want this detail. mark: i think it is a toxic message he would be wise to stop. i do like when our candidates get philosophical, so i give him credit for that. donny and i will be right back. ♪

mark: yesterday, donald trump held two rallies, when during the day in virginia and one at night in florida. not so much in -- they were very different events, not so much in 's tone. but in trump

got us thinking may be nighttime trump is willing to say stranger things. obama.mp: barack hussein you know, if you remember, when obamacare, he said you can keep your plan, you can keep your doctor. he is the founder of isis. i have been all over this country. we have the greatest people anywhere in the world. the greatest people. how stupid are we? really, a big part of the rigged system is the press. media is rigged. it's rigged. it's crooked as hell. nafta was signed by bill clinton. nafta is a disaster. syrian refugees who people have no idea who they are, they could be isis -- they are be putting d'este are being put next to you in your neighborhood? hillary clinton will be worse than obama. she's going to raise taxes on the middle class. you saw that one?

maybe she misspoke. we have to give her a break. i don't like her temperament because her temperament is the temperament of a loser. tale of two trumps there. rich miller has an interesting story on bloomberg.com about one progressive economist who disagrees with hillary clinton's propose fiscal policy. thanks for watching. and i will be back in gotham city side-by-side, same that time, same that channel -- bat-channel., same sayonara. ♪

manus: you are watching bloomberg west. let us start with a check of your first word news. hillary clinton says donald trump spoke only of failure, poverty, and crime.

manufacturing company in michigan, mrs. clinton said he has not offered any credible solutions to america's economic challenges. comes to creating jobs, i would argue it is not even close. even conservative experts say pulld trump's agenda will our economy back into recession. mark: donald trump has added seven women to his economic advisory council. previously consisted of only men. it includes diane hendrix. darlene jordan. executive director of the j r jordan family. betsy mccoy. rollins, president and ceo of texas public policy foundation. her has been no claim of responsibility following twin bombings in thailand leaving one person dead and 20 others injured.