>> i am donnie deutsch. mark: i am mark halperin. -- the boy out of queens. >> go home to mama. go home to mama. and your mother is voting for trump. >> well now you brought my mother into it. ♪ mark: happy friday. the end of the week could not have come sooner for donald trump. it has been one of the worst in his presidential campaign, although maybe we are just saying that because we are members of the mainstream media.

don't take our word for it. listen to rush limbaugh. >> trump is finished. trump does not have a prayer. you hear stories. there are fundraising problems at the rnc. republicans down the ballot are urging the rnc not to spend money on trump. it is a waste of money. we have 50 former national security aides, republicans, all writing a letter citing that donald trump is outrageously unqualified and unfit. he is so far down in the polls. there is no way to make any of it back. this seems to be the narrative. mark: across the fruited plain, that is what we call a rush limbaugh classic. you need to take the tone with a fine grain of salt.

our suspicion and experience is that mr. limbaugh is saying this because he recognizes there is more than a peppercorn of truth in all this. for example, these are the news reports you are seeing on tv. >> trump today doubling and tripling down on his claims that president obama and hillary clinton are the founders of isis. mark: that may not be the right question to ask. trump responded with this widely read tweet. >> president obama and clinton, the founders of isis. they don't get sarcasm? donald trump, the first presidential candidate's campaign is largely based on sarcasm. this might help explain -- trump 2016, could i be any lower in the polls? the polls are so bad that donald trump himself even conceded it in at least one statement.

>> i have a tremendous problem in utah. is anyone here from utah? i did not think so. we are having a problem. mark: a quick piece of advice, maybe don't refer to these united states as a different place. by the way, if you think utah is bad for your candidate, you will not want to look at these new surveys of more electorally important states. florida, down by nine points. virginia, down by 13. colorado, down by 14 points. twitter lit up more than a michael phelps after party. if he loses all four states, his chances are doomed. if our researchers can figure this out, so can trump, and also

leaders in congress. at least one republican is now saying that donald trump is most certainly going to lose. on the record, mitch mcconnell of kentucky said that the chances of the republican party keeping control of the senate are "very dicey." while we are on the topic of congress, consider steve king of iowa, one of the few not hiding at the convention in cleveland. he delivered a speech at the iowa state fair that gave the impression that he could work with the next president of the united states because he has worked with her before. >> i have set across the table with hillary clinton. she is somebody i could work with. >> trump loses susan collins, meg whitman, but steve king? steve king made comments last month that were called literally white supremacy.

yes, that steve king. that explains why republicans are holding a come to jesus meeting in florida with the trump camp. oh, to be a zika-free mosquito on the wall there. in politics, good gets better and bad gets worse. the other one says nothing is ever as good or bad as it seems. which barbarism is true for trump right now? is this a full-fledged crisis for the republican nominee or is this just an august trump slump? >> it is obvious a a crisis. the numbers don't lie. the battleground states are going away. it is hard to imagine a path. i have been called into solve a lot of crises throughout my career. don't go at the media.

give a checkered speech. i have to tell you guys the way i communicate. i say outrageous things to open up the discussion. of course hillary clinton and barack obama are not the founders of isis, but i got the conversation going. of course i don't want anybody to take out a gun on hillary clinton, but we need to talk about the second amendment. while i am at it, i want to apologize to the kahns. it showed his core. i have not been sleeping at night. i am wrong. take it all off the table. otherwise, the bullets continue to fly. i believe he can reboot it. i believe it has to do be done the right way. it cannot be done attacking the

media. mark: the stakes are so high for a lot of voters. what i am hearing from republicans is that he's not giving people a sense that he understands it is important to stop hillary clinton from being president and that he gets he needs to fight back. there is too much business as usual for a lot of republicans who say if this is what he's going to keep doing, making mistakes, being sarcastic, fighting the media, not focusing day to day on the news cycle, he is going to lose, and the numbers could be hurt by donald trump if he does not turn things around. he needs to do something dramatic to turn this around. he cannot wait until the debates. >> he has to say to his guys, i am not doing this anymore. he needs to take a step backwards. those droppings on the floor are not going to go away. you cannot leave it on the table

and move on and not do it again. if it is the right tone, a tone we have not seen -- mark: if he has it inside of him. >> the media wants a race, so they will go, here we go. donald trump finds himself in an unprecedented spot. it's not just fact checks in real time -- today's case studied his most recent comments on obama, clinton, and the founding of isis. >> donald trump tries to dismiss his claim as sarcasm. >> he repeated a false claim about the president. >> why does he keep repeating it if it is not true? >> the fact checkers are having a field day with this one. president obama did not found isis. >> for clarity, they are not the founders.

>> a founder is a person who establishes an institution or settlement. a founder would be like if i founded the wolf blitzer fan club. this is suggesting that president obama and hillary clinton believe in the cause of isis, which is simply not true. >> the other day, trump was quoted and corrected at the same time. recent stories on the claim as "patently false and exaggerated." we are not saying this is wrong. on morning joe, a washington post columnists made a convincing argument for why they think -- >> everybody in the media will have to decide and continue to decide how do you deal with

this. >> when you have a guy that makes a flat out false statement every day repeatedly, president obama founded isis, how do you cover that? >> you have to write a news story. >> pin him down in the news stories. >> you have to call it what it is. >> on top of all this, unlike any election we can remember, columnists are ganging up and advocating for his total defeat. the media has coverage of hillary clinton's untruthful claims, but it pales in comparison to the certitude of the type of scrutiny that donald trump speeches are getting. how much of this being framed by the media is dooming trump or

can he make a move here? mark: it is death. i have always advocated, not "he said, shesaid," but if somebody is not telling the truth, call them out for it in a factual way and hold them accountable to the public interest. i think it is great people are doing it for trump, and they should do it for clinton as well. they are bringing it upon themselves when their candidate goes out every day and does something new. we should be doing it for both candidates. i have never seen straight news reporters basically calling people a liar in news accounts. >> contrasting what trump says -- trump inspires such passion on both sides, even reporters, because they are human beings. some of the things he has said have been so offensive.

i think they are feeling a responsibility. this is the most passionate people, and we can put reporters under people, have ever been about any candidate, and that is what is driving this. mark: one of his main arguments against every clinton that he is trying to make is that she is a liar. if the press day to day is explicitly calling donald trump a liar, and hillary clinton and the foundation says she says this and other people say this, that is a losing position for donald trump no matter what else he does. >> he needs to take an eraser to the board and start over. mark: up next, the great 2016 tax -- and we will show how much money the clintons made last year right after this. ♪

♪ mark: one day after an economic speech in michigan, hillary clinton is trying to put pressure on donald trump and his campaign by releasing her tax returns. she is calling on the republican nominee to do the same. she and president clinton earned $10.6 million last year, 34.2% federal income tax rate, and donated 9.8% of gross income to charity. the clintons have released decades of tax returns. her running mate released 10 years of his tax history. donald trump has refused to release his returns citing an audit by the irs. with us is katie tur.

do you think this will cause him to relent? >> no. he will not release his taxes. it is not going to happen. >> zero chance. warren buffett was under order. i feel strong about this. we all have one job as a citizen, pay taxes and not break the law. taxes are a peek into the soul of how you live your life and conduct business. possibly zero tax. we could get a real estate tax attorney in here and explain the business, a lot of funny business. there have always been rumors that he is the least charitable rich guy around. mark: i thought maybe this is it.

instead, they are going on the attack and saying she is dishonest about her e-mails. >> he said the one thing she released is what nobody cares about. despite that, i think they will have some fun with it and say look at how much money she made in speeches, book deals. >> they paid 35% taxes. >> the trump campaign does not necessarily use -- >> logic. mark: you can bet they thought, let's take the right deductions. >> these are two people who basically run for office for a living and are making as much money as they are. >> it is, you are running for president, you show your taxes. >> donald trump supporters don't care.

mark: if he does not do it by the first debate, it becomes a big issue. >> zero chance. citing an unnamed federal official, the fbi was considering opening a public corruption case against the clinton foundation, but no investigation materialized after they got pushed back. if any of this is true, pretty big deal. >> the doj is not commenting. the fbi is not commenting. the clinton foundation is not commenting on it. it does feed into the narrative that there was something shady going on, that she was using the foundation and her role in the defense department to serve herself. there is no official denial, and that lends the trump campaign the ability to attack her on this issue. mark: reporters are really interested in this story. you think about the announcement

on the e-mails. we are recommending no investigation. in this case, if the reports are right, they did want an investigation. until there are more specifics, it's hard for the trump campaign to make that much out of it. >> the press covered hillary clinton's e-mails nonstop before donald trump got on the scene and started talking about it. in some ways it may be better if he went dark for the entire month. the focus could be entirely on hillary clinton instead of what donald trump said. mark: how could he spend his time more profitably? >> if i'm hillary clinton, just go away. just let trump continue.

mark: when we come back, we will talk more about donald trump and life on the trail and birds. >> birds? mark: swans. right after this. ♪

♪ mark: back with katie tur. if you don't recognize her, you may know her from the pages of marie claire magazine. the latest issue features her reflections on covering the trump campaign in an article

called "my crazy year with trump." that is not the only glossy magazine. she is also in an issue of town and country on their list of 50 modern swans, the world's most stylish, talked about, and emulated young women. here is the picture of the magazine shown to illustrate her swan-ness. does that make me an honorary swan. >> congratulations. shouldn't it just be world's most influential women? >> you are right. >> you are one of the most brilliant reporters out there and to turn it into a beauty pageant -- >> i am honored they included me in their list. i like they called me a swan because nobody has ever accused me of being graceful. i'll take it. mark: your article about covering trump. the first presidential candidate i covered was bill clinton.

i thought presidential candidates are interesting, great speakers, and work 20 hours a day. your candidate is equally unusual, trump. give us a sense of what it is like to cover him day to day. >> it is a wild roller coaster ride, or as i said in the article, a hurricane making landfall on a daily basis. you could be doing one story, and he will tweet something or say something that up ends the entire process. i never thought i would hear somebody running for president say that somebody else was --, but i did. >> why do they call you little katie on the campaign. >> because i am five feet two inches, i don't know. >> we see some soundbites with angry people screaming, some of the comments, and the new york times did this three-minute thing that was like a lynch rally. >> there are some rooms that are much more tense than others. last night, you could feel it

from the video. we have this in new orleans as well, columbus, ohio, maybe one in michigan, the room was angry and it feels like they are spoiling for a fight and out to tar and feather somebody. they feel like they have been under represented. you feel it. absolutely. they come to the press tent and glare at you. i had a grandmother look at me as i was writing on my notepad and she said, "you better be telling the truth." i looked at her and said, "what are you talking about?" she said, "you are a liar." mark: we are preparing to talk about the week in review, and our folks put together a list of

all the things that happened this week. of all the stuff that happened this week, which one or two do you think will endure as factors going forward in the campaign? on the cover of time magazine, the founders of isis, susan collins, the national security experts, the rnc tensions. >> founder of isis. he said that four, five, six times yesterday. i ask him if that meant there was a vacuum, but he said no, he is the founder of isis. then he said he was being sarcastic. but he said it sarcastic. what does that mean? mark: if i say it my way, people talk about it. >> the party needs to find a way to bolster him. you can't cut the head off and expect the body to survive.

they want to maintain a majority in the senate, but it is an internal struggle, how do you support somebody who you disagree with on so many issues? how do support him going forward? you cannot just back off and say i will not have this any longer because the folks that do support you, do believe in and you do think are good for the country. look at the senate race in new hampshire. there are races they will lose if they get rid of trump. mark: thank you for joining us. we will be right back to talk about the latest polls right after this. ♪

♪ >> we are joined by a democratic

poster jeffrey pollack and super pac backing hillary clinton and also back in the wadr studio by popular demand kelly conway. public pollster and senior adviser of trump's campaign. guys, thanks for coming on the show. i want to start with you, kelly and. another day, another magical tour for donald trump. his latest is he was being , sarcastic about being sarcastic. i am not going to go into it again. i started the show talking about that he needs to completely somehow back off of some of those things and, look, i speak this way for a reason. i certainly don't believe there is any chance of that happening. kelly: here is what i saw happening today. i saw the chairman of the republican national committee get on the plane with donald trump and go to erie, pennsylvania and introduce him as a sign of unity batting back these ridiculously, unfounded -- that's what i saw today. that is not relevant at all. >> the president and -- >> the media was running stories that the donors were freaking out about down dollar races.

i looked at them, looking at where senators were a year ago. they are pretty much where they are now. they were losing the democratic opponent in many of these blue states for the re-election. if we're going to talk about what happened on the campaign trail, let's talk about the facts. they had a terrific rally today. thousands of people. the chairman of the party. you guys have a new chairman of your party at the d.n.c. because the old one got booted out unceremoniously by the president of the united states. >> nice parry. nice parry. pennsylvania, kellyanne, pat toomey was winning pennsylvania a year ago. kelly ayotte was winning a year ago. i mean, seemingly it's absolutely happening. there is a problem with donald trump. yes the notion that it's a win that the head of the r.n.c. and the presidential nominee are on the same plane, is ridiculous. of course that should happen. the fact is people are running away from this guy, but aren't going to be able to run away. that is the other story.

donnie: new battleground state'' polls. i want your take. 30 seconds. analyze the polls. >> they are all showing hillary with a tremendous bounce. she got a convention bounce. trump got a convention bounce. at this point it's more like a she gets a convention bounce. pole vault in terms of where hillary is. her numbers are -- in all the battleground states you're looking at hillary has a dominant lead, a double-digit lead in virginia, colorado, states that should be on the map in terms of real, real tight races. right now all the data, not only the battleground polls, everybody is seeing the same data. >> kelly, go. >> i'm glad it is august and not october. for some people we're listening to the same thing we heard a year ago which is donald trump can never win. excuse us if we would rather sally forth with a professional campaign. even though lots of people like to dismiss that, because they don't know what's going on inside. this is what's happening in the battleground states. donald trump is doing fairly well among independents. hillary clinton has an awful gender gap among men. they don't like her. they mistrust her. they don't want her to be commander in chief or president of the united

states. we don't hear about her gender gap with men. the fact is hillary clinton benefits from scarcity. i can't understand how somebody being shrouded and protected and propped up by most of america's main stream media is not at 55%. why, donnie, is she not at 60% among women? what is holding back so many women to not come forth and say , you know what, i do want to see the first female president? could it be it is not a female , it is that female? it is not a hypothetical, it's hillary? mark: this is a baseline here. do you have data that contradicts the notion trump is down currently in august, outside the margin of error in north carolina, virginia, and colorado . >> yes. mark: those states are closer from your point of view? >> we don't see colorado and virginia as double digit races. mark: where do you have them? >> i will never tell, but i answered your question. look, the polls, before the two conventions, showed donald trump winning in some of these swing states. we know that we're a new cycle or two away from the polls going in a different direction. and, also, some of the attrition for donald trump over the last two weeks in the polling, gentlemen, has been among

republican voters. that doesn't mean they'll go over to hillary clinton. that means they're saying i prefer when you're talking about security, prosperity, ethics, the united states supreme court nominees, you're taking the case to two people -- hillary clinton and donald trump. >> that is not the case in those polls. in those polls in fact donald , trump's republican number has remained relatively stable. a little bit down. but relatively stable. it is in fact the independent voters in those places that have moved away from him. not only that but hillary clinton, there was this whole discussion about mitt romney got a greater percentage of the white vote yet still lost. guess what? hillary clinton, nationally and in the swing states is doing better with white voters and that is very hard. so we always talk about young people. minorities. latinos, etcetera. >> better than who? >> well, better than four years ago in terms of -- >> but we're not judging -- not basing -- just so we're all clear, we are not basing our campaign on mitt romney's campaign just so we're clear. , we're not trying to -- >> if you can't beat his numbers, then there is no way to win. >> it's august, right? where were you in july when she was losing? >> i agree that there is no --

>> but you can't answer the very important question why hillary clinton can't crack 60% among women anywhere. >> why would presidential nominee necessarily get 60%? >> but where is she? you can't hide her forever. my goodness. do you not have a tv? i do. i have a tv. i watch a woman who's been under attack by the media for a long period of time and certainly the right wing media that continues to go out. >> why are we rejecting hillary clinton? >> i don't know, why would that be a magic number? mark: did you watch her economics speech yesterday? >> i did, yes. mark: what would you say -- >> a couple things, number one i'm not the policy guy. all i care about -- mark: a bumper sticker. >> on her bumper sticker, it's security, solid, leadership, somebody you can trust. >> why does america reject that? >> honestly i don't know bumper sticker from the speech. the speech, to me, was more about pointing out how donald trump has policies that favor the rich, and she's got policies that favor the mainstream. also says i'm not here to take a

whack at michigan which is what donald trump did when he came -- mark: first time you've been our show so the question i ask all democrats. are you troubled -- >> you want to talk about the e-mails again, because it's boring. mark: i do. mark: are you troubled by -- >> hillary made a mistake. i will say the same thing. mark: she said she made a mistake, but she has not addressed this. i'm asking you. are you troubled by her failure to live up to her responsibility from the freedom of information act by preserving records? >> hillary clinton said she should have done something differently. mark: are you troubled by that? >> mark, you are going to get the same answer from everybody. you know this. hillary clinton said she'd have done things differently. she should have done things differently. that's what she said. but the american public isn't talking about this. >> yes, they are. >> no they're not. i've been out there. mark: would you feel differently about what she did if it turned out her e-mails contained sensitive information and were obtained by foreign agents? >> they don't know the answer and i'm not going to address a , hypothetical as you fully well know. >> then you are calling the f.b.i. director a liar. >> i didn't call him a liar.

>> why do 64% of americans say she is not honest or trust worthy? no answer. mark: talk about donald trump's electoral college path. what are the states romney lost that you see him in a good position to win? >> iowa, ohio, pennsylvania, florida. it will be competitive -- let's look at the august polls, right? mark: we're in august now. do you accept the premise donnie and i talked about earlier that he needs to do something different, or do you think he's on a trajectory to win now? >> there is something he will do differently that will be very unique for a republican nominee is really taking the case in these presidential debates to the democratic nominee. governor romney was criticized roundly for having a great first debate so he won, he clearly won one debate october 3, 2012. but then he never won the argument. you can't win a debate. you have to win the argument with the voters every day. i still think the x factor, the unpredictability of donald trump in these debates against a very scripted, very boring hillary clinton who we worked back to the sound bites isn't very nimble on the stump is a risk for her.

it truly is a risk for her. so you know how that goes, mark. that can change lots of peoples opinions as they start to pay more attention after labor day as we get into these debates. you we never know what is the next chapter in the never ending hillary clinton scandal-abra will be. let's be fair. some democrats want to dismiss the e-mails. i call them the wrist flickers. who cares if it's security information? donnie: i want to get a question in. why would donald trump not release his tax returns? he is running for the highest office. >> why does he have to? i tell you what. why does he have to? maybe you just want to see what a billionaire's tax return is like. donnie: the theory is the only reason he wouldn't is one of three things. he's paying almost zero tax, he doesn't give any money to charity, and he is nowhere nearly as rich as he says. otherwise he would -- >> all three of those, donnie. >> no, it is that -- donnie: give me the argument. answer my question. what is the argument to not release them if you have nothing to hide?

>> what is the argument to release them? he does not need an audit. >> every presidential candidate has. >> what presidential candidate have you of seen like him? -- have you ever seen like him? mark: before you worked for a candidate who refused to release his tax returns did you have the , position it didn't matter? >> i actually don't know why they do. you can tell me why they do -- i'm more interested to know that they're both going to have a medical doctor examine them. i'm more interested to know whether they put national security risks -- here is the thing, donnie, also. he says he is under audit. i have no idea about his financial situation so he says he is under audit. i'll make you a deal. i'll look you in the eye and telling you i will look him in the eye and ask him to release his tax returns if hillary clinton releases the wall street features and the 32,000 e-mails. i want the 32,000 e-mails. i want some -- some smart kid -- of course, mark. out in silicon valley can get them for us.

you're on. mark: what chance that trump will win? >> looking at the obvious polls -- august polls, it's 20 or less. no question about it. >> 20%. major party candidate would win? >> no, no. >> 20%. >> he said what is the percentage when i look at the polls today if you took all the swing states hillary is winning by dominance. i'll say what you said to be fair t's august. i think there's plenty of time. mark: you're both numbers people. what is trump's floor in the popular vote? >> 40 some -- 42, 43%. for any major party. mark: what is the ceiling in the popular vote? >> with gary johnson and jill fien on the ballot? her ceiling is about 47%. mark: then you'll win probably. >> he could win because nobody is talking enough about gary johnson. we see in the state wide polls he is rising. mark: and hurting her odor >> and hurting both of them. hillary clinton gets 41, 42, 43% of the vote before she gets out of bed in the morning. the question is how does she get to 51 and 52 and stay there in the swing states. gary johnson helps and hurts in very unusual ways. the thing about gary johnson comes down to this. if he continues to get 11%, gets

up to the 15% threshold and gets on the debate stage it could help him because people say a alternative or it could third hurt him because people say i didn't want trump or clinton but i romanticized you when i didn't know anything about you. it's not -- they'd have to buy into his libertarian ideology. bill clinton got less than 50% in 1992 and won. >> if trump is relying on third parties -- hillary clinton should be happy. >> we are not. >> take this outside right? thank you. phil rutger from "the washington post" joins us right after this quick break.

♪ mark: closing out our wild, wild week in review, sorting it out with us, phil ruck, the national

political correspondent for "the washington post." in the paper's newsroom and he is covering all the candidates in a way that gets him great insight into what's happening. you watched the focus group in ohio this week. tell us about that. phil: yeah, so these were moms, walmart moms is what they're called, but they are undecided voters, working women, and they don't like either of the candidates. it's what we keep seeing in the polls. it was just so visceral, the distaste that a lot of these women had not only for donald trump but also hillary clinton who they just see as corrupt and sort of not relateable and full of scandals. one woman actually said she's swept so many scandals under the rugged that they can't even lay the carpet flat anymore. there is just a real distaste out in the country with voters for both of these candidates. donnie: so having heard that at , the end of the day we always see suburban moms are always going to vote risk averse. the end of the day, so even there is such dislikeability on

both sides, my theory is that those women the end of the day when they -- nothing to back this up other than my gut --are going to go for the safer choice because trump is -- they'll take untrust worthy vs. scary. and i think that's what's going to push it. do you agree with that theory? phil: yeah, i think you are absolutely right. that came up in the conversations with these women. as much as they don't like hillary clinton, they don't want her in their back yard at a barbecue, they don't trust her, they think she would be safe and keep their children safe. they think she is qualified for the job. they just have really grave doubts about donald trump at sort of a fundamental level about his qualifications, his , temperament, about what kind of president he would make. mark: i am not trying to turn you into howie kirts but in general terms, what is it like in the post newsroom now as both candidates complain about the coverage, both candidates think they're being treated unfairly? how is the paper at large handling that? phil: well, for starters i'm glad they're both reading "the washington post." that's good. but, look. we've been tough on both of

these candidates. we have been the entire campaign, and we are going to continue to do so going forward. we continue to be banned from being credentialed at donald trump's events, but it hasn't stopped us from covering his campaign fairly and accurately and aggressively. that's what we're going to keep doing. donnie: you know, it got buried alive because to the average person it wasn't that big a deal when "the washington post" was banned. that was very scary. i don't think it's reported enough because it looks like the media writing about the media. we have to step back and think about a presidential candidate didn't like his coverage while he is running for office and says you can't cover me. the second most, arguably the first most influential newspaper in our country. that's scary. am i missing something here? shouldn't that have more made of that? phil: well, it's disturbing, certainly. we think it's wrong. and we've been -- we have been pushing back against it. donnie: not wrong scary. ,phil: it is scary.

there is nothing we can do about it except cover his campaign professionally and fairly and completely, which is what we're doing. mark: just a minute left to go here. what are you curious about for say the balance of august through labor day? what are sort of the things you're wondering about in terms of the two candidates and two campaigns? phil: i mean, i think all the curiosity is on the trump side right now whether he can try to stabilize the ship here the campaign just seems incomplete -- in complete disarray at the moment and i think we want to see whether he can get a message that will resonate with voters, whether the polling problems that he has right now are recoverable. perhaps they might be in that first debate. but there are things he can be doing this month to try to shore up support among republicans but also show that he can be competitive in these swing states. where right now he is simply , not. mark: wise, wise phil rucker. thanks very much for joining us. enjoy the weekend. we are going to take a trip to colorado right after this. if you're watching us in washington, d.c., you can now

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>> there is a lot more work out here for me, and i can't make the money back home i can make down here. self-employed carpenter. veteran united states army. , i care very much about politics. i love my country. i gave them eight years of my life. i'm proud of it. i want to see this country go the right direction. the production jobs in this country are going south and have shut their doors and moved overseas where they can get cheap labor. the only one i would vote for this year would be hillary clinton. >> i'm headed to kansas city, missouri. and i'm pretty excited. going to be making more money. i really enjoy life. life is good. new mexico. that's where i'm from. i'll be there in november.

i'll make a special trip, a home time for that. because there is no way hillary is getting my vote. trump? he may have some things crazy to him, but who doesn't, and at least he loves america and he knows how to run a business. ♪ >> i took three months to travel through latin and south america. i went to mexico, guatemala, costa rica, peru, ecuador, and colombia. i found that when i told people that i was from the united states, one of the first questions i would get is about the election. so a lot of times when people ask me where i was from, i would lie to them and say i was from canada because i didn't like the feeling of knowing that my name and me as a person was being immediately associated with donald trump and the things that he says.

>> she has lived here 32 years, has four kids, four grand kids. she is going to the ceremony. >> [speaking foreign language] >> she also votes for hillary. >> [speaking foreign language] >> she says to be able to vote and not for trump. >> i'm sorry. i've been out of the loop. yes. i've been in the wilderness for six months this summer, so, you know, i turned the news on when i get back and it's almost the same thing they were talking about six months ago. >> you know, we've got hillary clinton or donald trump, you know, it's really almost sad that it comes to that. i really believe that. and it's always the lesser of two evils. >> i've been a roofer for the past 24 years. i love it. got my truck, got my tools. can't complain. 100% mexican.

but you know what? i bleed american. this is home. there is a lot of hispanics that are antitrump because of his racial comments. they're just narrow minded and they are not looking at the whole picture. i think that he's one of the smartest guys that will probably keep this nation level. >> i voted for obama. the first time. voted for romney last time. you know, i think i'll probably vote for trump. if you don't, you know, you're not part of some kind of solution and decision making, you know, then no reason to complain. >> most of the ones that are complaining about the government don't vote. get out there and do something about it. mark: you know what's interesting, in this business we look at numbers on a page or polls and there are people. our thanks to griffin hammond. you can follow the whole journey on bloomberg politics.com.

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♪ mark: do as i say do as i do. head to bloomberg politics right now and check out the latest story about the ways hillary clinton is trying to frame up donald trump. coming up on "bloomberg west" next, vr executive chairman brad allen. we'll be back here monday. same bad time, same bad channel. thanks for watching. for me and for donnie, for everyone here at "with all due respect," we say to you, sayonara. ♪

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