♪ our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charile: we continue our coverage of the 2016 political campaign. donald trump was at a rally in wisconsin and we want to talk about the trump campaign manager is an campaign. joining me from washington is al --t of "rumored view "bloomberg view." it's good to hear from you, al. al: good to be with you, charles. charlie: i haven't had a chance

to talk with you since you were in pennsylvania. give me a sense of what you found when you talk to a lot of people across the state, a state crucial to donald trump, and my impression is hillary clinton is up a bit. al: she is. pennsylvania is really several two primarytes, but divides there, the west, working-class, there used to be seal mills, coal mills. democratic.eavily donald trump does well there, probably even better than it romney did. then there's the east, bucks, montgomery, delaware. those four suburban counties will cast more votes than philadelphia and pittsburgh combined and trump is getting clobbered in those suburbs. the places he's doing well are places that are not growing much as far as voters or population. the places he's getting clobbered are taking off.

i think it will take a miracle for donald trump to even be competitive in pennsylvania right now. charlie: is this the larger picture of him, he's doing well in places that seem to be less optimistic about their future and worse with those people who seem more optimistic about their future? al: no question. certainly it is the suburbs and exurbs. went for obama, they're going more decisively for hillary clinton in large part because their anti-trump. colleg-eeducated, which mitt romney carried he carried college educated whites by 14 points and right now she's winning them by about 10 points. that's a huge turnaround. charlie: what are the issues for those people voting for donald trump? al: it's his slogan, make america great again. they said, things used to be good and they aren't anymore.

i would to this little town about 20 miles from pits earned. they had 290 kids in the graduating class. 46 this year. they used to have a steel mill there. it's almost desolate. donald trump was the first presidential national figure to speak there since john f. kennedy in the early 1960's. these people don't have much hope. their kids are leaving. trump says, these trade deals are killing us, we will turn america around again, i don't know if they believe him or not. it is to hell with the way worse are, can't be than what we've experienced. charlie: can we make the case that people who want change want donald trump? al: i think it's what kind of change. for those people there, yes. people in economically

distressed areas, parts of ohio, southwestern virginia, that's clearly the case. other people want different sorts of change, young people. some of the people in the suburbs who think we can do a better job on the economy. i think trump scares those people. he has corralled the votes of people who were terribly pessimistic, but there are those people who want change but they don't think we are going to hell in a handbasket right now, and trump is having a hard time with those people. there are either voting for hillary clinton or they're going to sit home, maybe cash the vote for a third-party candidate. you talko question if to even some republicans, young people will vote in overwhelming numbers for hillary clinton. probably as decisively if not

more so than they did for barack obama. come out is will they to vote, and that's where bernie sanders and elizabeth warren and barack obama can be of tremendous assistance to clinton in the fall because there's a real turnout question among young voters. charlie: when you talk to the democratic strategist, that's what they say to me. what worries them? turnout. al: it's more so with young people than latinos. they think trump will turn out latinos for them. african-americans, there's a strong sense that there's been a perhaps permanent change among the african-american turnout. it started with obama that you saw it in some of the off year elections and in places like philadelphia, maybe it won't equal 2008 or 2012 but it will come pretty close. the real turnout problem is with young people. charlie: is it possible there is a group of people who want to vote for donald trump but don't

want to tell you and don't want to tell pollsters? al: that's what the republicans and some trump people say. i don't think the primary polls indicated that. the polls are pretty right on in some places. i sat around the lunch table in this little town of manasseh in and people were not shy about who they would vote for. some people were not for trump, but i doubt there's that silent vote. in terms of possible things they could change a campaign, we can look ahead and talk about debates but i would rather differ that great what about some kind of terrorist attack? what impact might that have on the campaign? strongerld trump poll on national security having made us each on it yesterday? -- made a speech on it yesterday? al: i think there was a feeling

that ar among democrats terrorist incident is the one thing that could turn the whole dynamics around. trump's speech yesterday was interesting. he did not step on his lines. he read. i thought he looked low-energy. the substance wasn't anything great. who nowver, a bush aide teaches at duke, said a lot of it was really bush and obama. he said what was good was not new and what was new was not good. at least he didn't stumble. i think if he can continue that and if the clinton effort to try --paint him as reckless and the joe biden take yesterday, doesn't know what he's talking about, would be a huge risk -- ifthey can't make that case,

they can't make it with total conviction, a terrorist incident would really scare democrats. charlie: what are republicans saying to you? al: i think we will see more defections from a presidential candidate then any time in history, more so than goldwater in 1964. then there will be another group that remains silent, go through the motions and focus on keeping the senate, keeping the house, keeping state and local races. non-trump of supporting republicans is just astounding as family -- national security, experts -- as a whole bunch of politicians, a whole bunch of elected senators, elected governors. i've never seen anybody run away from a candidate before. with mcgovern it was, we are with george, but then there would always be somewhere else when george showed up. these people are being far more public about it.

it's guys like rick snyder of michigan, or senators with susan collins and jeff blake. it's really quite unique. charlie: thank you for joining us. back in a moment. stay with us. ♪ tell me about the man you know now, donald trump. >> they are not much different. donald trump was clearly having a good time and there are nights where he is still clearly having a good time. he shoots from the hip as he did from day one and as he's doing now. he's become more of a politician in some senses. we see him reading from a teleprompter. we see moments where he refuses to engage. he is still run by his natural instincts. he likes to entertain. the first time i saw him at a rally was a backyard private

home, with people standing around a pool, and he was saying many of the same things he says now in front of these crowds. at that rally, he called me out by name and said, you're not paying attention to me. charlie: having fun with you. >> having fun with me. charlie: what about the issue now taking on the press? he's always taking on the press, but they're doing it more forcefully now because he's down in the polls and he needs a scapegoat. his scapegoat is the media. tweets between saturday and monday. 10 were 12 tweets, about the media and only a couple were against hillary clinton, railing on the media for a sickly repeating the words that he says on the campaign --

basically repeating the words that he says on the compaign. the campaign behind-the-scenes is not being running smoothly. there's tensions with the rnc. the easiest way for him to pass the blame is to say it's not reality, it is a media construct. he does think it resonates. the campaign just sent out an e-mail to supporters, there was a media bias survey and they asked supporters to rate whether they think the media is more biased towards republicans, whether they agree with the statements. when we are at these rallies, the supporters that come out will wait to the end and hang around the press pen and stare at the reporters in the face and and them, you are a liar you are telling lies for hillary clinton. the issue is, there are not

enough evil out there who agree with him on this to such a degree that they believe he's being completely unfair. rush limbaugh yesterday came on and said he should back off on the attacks to the press, and rush limbaugh has pretty much made his career attacking the press. charlie: the reason he should do that is because it's counterproductive? guest: it makes leaders look weak. charlie: that's an interesting rush limbaugh insight. guest: if you're attacking the press, you're losing. the other thing that interests me about him, how much is he intoxicated by the enthusiasm of his -- guest: very much so. if the room is really rambunctious, if they are responding to his words, that's when he goes off message.

roar.ts to hear their at his core, he's an entertainer. he has coveted headlines and coveted attention. we saw this when he was coming up in the real estate market in and when he1980's, got his own tv show on "the apprentice." he enjoys being the center of attention. been a bit like a reality show. he has gone in, and if the crowd is not responding to a message, usually a more policy oriented message, he pivots quickly to find something they respond to. that's when we first heard him saying, bomb the hell out of isis. that's when we got a huge roar. that was more than 6 months ago, i believe. charlie: is he capable of a hard-edged analysis of himself? guest: i haven't seen it. charlie: he's intoxicated by

everything and therefore incapable of saying, i'm making a mistake here. if in fact he believse that -- believes that. is he prepared to come to an accurate conclusion? is he willing to listen to people so he will make perhaps a better judgment? guest: i have heard that there are glimpses of him understanding the wrongs he's done. seen him turnaround ever so slightly here and there during the campaign season, we thought you could say yesterday when he was giving a foreign policy -- on the economic speech. he's healingthat more towards message even behind the scenes with some of his advisers. i haven't had this conversation with him directly, so i can't say if he's able to look at -- back at how he contributed to some of these headlines or how

he could have potentially negatively contributed to what could he a -- be a loss in november. charlie: what do you know about roger ailes advising him? there's rumors about it since roger ailes was forced to resign from fox news. it would be a conversation about how things are going. guest: the two men are close. there's been an open line of communication between the two. it's not surprising he would sign on. as someone who has a massive deficit among women right now, to take the advice of someone in a public way whose income we accused of -- who's publicly being accused of sexual harassment allegations, that to me is counterintuitive to what he needs to do going forward, which is to find a way to appeal to women.

he's brought ivanka out to do that, she hasn't and as focal as she would need to be for the campaign to find a way to connect with female voters. charlie: why not? what do voters say? guest: this is a campaign that doesn't have a lot of answers right they will say, why would we tell you this? it depends on whether he sees me. if he sees me in his eyeline,he he'll engage. in terms of getting donald trump in a one-on-one way out of the glare of the camersas, that's difficult he calls reporters here and -- difficult. he calls reporters here and there, but he has become more insulated as this campaign goes on. charlie: kennedy was a reader.

he was friends with a lot of people and knew them. on the other hand, other s, i don'tal candidate think they follow the media that closely. trump follows television like crazy and use the social media like no one has ever used it for -- before, even to the point that it becomes part of a hillary clinton speech, anyone who can be abated by a tweet should not have their hand on the nuclear trigger. these nonpartisan folks who will have conversations with reporters to give them a sense of how they feel this race is going and whether they think donald trump is fit to be commander in chief, the question is not so much whether he can learn what's going on in the world, there's a believe that anyone can learn that once they are given the evidence and information. but is he someone who has such a

hairtrigger that he can't ignore even the slightest slight? charlie: you are going to have advisers advising you from both sides of an issue. what you need is a certain grounding and a certain kind of experience and judgment so you can choose between competing opinions. that demands a lease some sense of familiarity -- at least some sense of familiarity to make a right decision. guest: from what i've heard, donald trump reads a lot of headlines sent stories -- and stories to do with himself. i haven't been told by anybody that he has a vociferous appetite for policy and what's going on in the world. you can see that when you're watching these policy speeches. seem like he is fully

steeped in it because he doesn't seem that interested in it, ultimately. charlie: reagan knew what he believed, and he believed in 4 or 5 fundamental things in terms of strong natioanl security -- national security. he also selected remarkable people to advise him. them and delegated them so it was not everything he thought, but it was grounding in fundamentals with policy added to value-added was smart people. guest: look at who donald trump has surrounded himself with. he's had a meeting with henry kissinger. we have not heard those names since those singular meetings. a number of his advisers are

or people ifends not in the real estate world, the wall street world, people like tom barrick. he's not surrounding himself with the traditional political establishment. in some ways, that can be spun in a good way. these foreign-policy advisers that come out against him are the ones who recommended going into iraq. he has a pretty solid counter arguments great he's having a hard time finding anybody who agrees with him on that who also agrees with him on the rest of his foreign policy. charlie: obama has been in favor of nato members paying 2% of gdp . that they were people that needed to pay more, and the united states couldn't bear that

alone. it was never a question, i'm not coming to the defensive nato countries. guest: absolutely. those alliances are very important and delicate. when you're talking about his position, the one things i keep hearing is hampering the most is the mulsim ban -- muslim ban and his refusal to back away from it. ideological tests for those coming into this country, make sure they agree with american principles and values and openness. he also suggested what he called government for the to figure out -- define radical islamic terror and figure out the warning signs for radicalization to pass those particles down to the local police. these are terms and ideas that on the surface might seem like good ideas, but there are also

things that make certain portions of this country and political establishment folks extremely uncomfortable about what that means going forward and how much civil liberties will need to be given up to do that. donald trump is banking on a majority of americans being willing to give up some liberties, much like what we did with the patriot act. charlie: what's his perspective on the clinton campaign? he believes it's the media's fault. too much onfocus his statements and not enough on hillary clinton's statements. the email leaks and drips of andls they keep coming out whether there were ties between her state department and the clinton foundation, that's a serious story. covered --getting

it's a story getting covered by the press. he's saying things that are so against the norm, president obama is the founder of isis, but that is sucking up the oxygen. charlie: even hugh hewitt in a radio interview said, i understood what you meant, when the president told troops out of iraq that left a vacuum there, and al qaeda came back in. he said no, i meant what i said. guest: he said, president obama is the founder of isis. 7 said it in 8 separate -- separate interviews that day. the next day he came out with a tweet, how dare the political press take him seriously. if you week's in miami when we were talking about hillary

clinton's e-mails and whether russia might have been involved he looked inck, the cameras and said russia, a hope you find those e-mails. i would like to see them. and asked him, do you understand what you're saying? does it give you any pause to ask a foreign government to meddle in american affairs? he looked at me and said, it does not give me any pause. the next day he comes out and says, i was just joking. charlie: at any point are you worried about your own safety? guest: i have. certainly my mother has. the muslim ban announcement night, in south carolina he called me out by name and the crowd was angry. i have gotten nervous at other big rallies. i have gotten nervous at panera bread. the amount of anger and

negativity you see on social media, i've had someone wonder if i'm going to be at a certain rally because they're going to wind me and tell me what they think -- find me and tell me what they think. certainly i have felt insecure from time to time. i do hope this ends well. charlie: define "ends well." katy: not just for me, the reporters in general. had moments where we have felt deeply uncomfortable at the rallies, outside of the rallies. charlie: two you think he cares? katy: i don't know. charlie: it's a pleasure to have you here. back in a moment. ♪

charlie: common essential canceled the nightly show with larry wilmore. before the creation of the nightly show with larry wilmore, he was a regular on "the daily show with jon stewart." we are pleased to have them here this evening to talk about television and his future. katy: -- >> as many of you have heard, this is our final week of "the nightly show."

i want to thank comedy central for this rare opportunity. when we started the show we wanted to have a conversation on some tough subjects. our show was at its best when the news was at its worst. i'm so proud we were able to take on real issues and hopefully say something powerful while making people laugh. my only regret is that we won't be around to cover this truly insane election season. going plus side, our show off the air has to only mean one thing. we did it. [laughter] charlie: joining me is larry wilmore. when i read this this morning i said, there's the man i want to have on this show as soon as possible. the end my coanchor were saying how much we like him and how much we like to show her ini here.- show -- the show

guest: i don't have the show anymore, so i will be hanging around here a lot. that's how they do you. promise a brother one thing and then sorry, i never really meant that. charlie: i invite you right now to come in here. there's no doubt that the range of your curiosity in some ways is the same as the range of your curiosity. i'm just not funny. guest: i don't know about that great people haven't seen you off the air. entertaining. charlie: tell me about it. you were given the opportunity to start from scratch and create a show. larry: i been very lucky i been

able to do that if you times. this show was so exciting. from the beginning jon stewart pitched me an idea. he thought there were a lot of voices that were not being represented on television and he thought this could be a show where that could happen. he said, i might you to be the ringleader. you didn't think when he first said it -- larry: no. it becomes surreal as they're talking about it right i'm 52 -- it. i'm 52. i met my "breaking bad" age. that's what i should have been doing. 30?lie: trevor is what, larry: the drinking laws in south africa are probably

different. rare opportunity. i took the humility that comes with all that knowing how tough it is to do that. the beloved stephen colbert, not just the successful but beloved stephen. mine, anda friend of taking all of that on, and then wants the show to be the minority reporter, we are tackling race, class. thanks, john. jon -- we had done that before on "the daily show." i was honored he would choose me to tackle those types of tough subjects. enjoy trying to find a humanity in its and get the humor out that way, in those types of things. it was so much fun for the amount of time we did. charlie: would you have done

anything differently? tough to say. forensic analysis and time machine, csi nightly show is what it's going to be. i'll raise some things on the set and figure out how to do it. the show started is one thing and evolved to become another. the original idea was just to be a talkshow with the panel. too -- thereittle wasn't a chance for me to weigh in. we realized early on that we need that opening segment where people can hear from me. without that, we feel like there's no chance for larry to make a distinctive mark on what is going on in the day or the world if he's just ring leading. charlie: we want to know where you are. larry: cbs this morning.

you guys have a lot of fill-ins on this show. charlie: he's out playing golf swimming. she's probably bored with the vacation already. i love storytelling. -- larry: i love storytelling. it's one of the things i love to do. i was running "blackish". i co-created -- she had a web series called "the misadventures of an awkward black girl." this show really showcases her talents. i'm excited to get into that part of my career, and also find possibly a show that does work for me at a place that does work as well. charlie: you've experienced what i've experienced for 25 years.

having a television show where you can talk about things, where you can have your friends who you think are talented come by. as a privilege. gail and i talked about this a lot. larry: larry, you're taking the high road. i thank comedy central for giving me that chance. i'll do my jokes because i'm a comedian and i can't stop that, but that's my job. comedy central, i'll always be there for them. charlie: i get the sense -- larry: is like a mountain man now. he shows up at the democratic convention with colbert. comedy yoda. he really is. you have to go away to a planet .nd train with him for a while

he's this wise sage who we all wanted to please. talent is sond large, you can't appreciate it unless you're working with it. he wrote an amazing editorial every single day. tot's his talent, being able distill what was really important and what he really felt needed to be said, and he was passionate about those things all the time. if he wasn't passionate about it, he did a really good job -- the key to this is sincerity. if you can fake that, you've got it made. jon stewart has been --

everybody i talk to has played a role in terms of wanting to push them to the edge, wanting to see them employed, want to see them have an opportunity. and the collection of people. what we forget about is the daily show, people came and then went to do other things, able range of things over the years. larry: and always with jon's blessing and the freedom to come back and all that kind of stuff great and he freely share the stage with all those people. the glory days give correll and carell andof steve colbert -- colbert inhales oxygen and exhales funny. he's funny all the time. charlie: but he's a perfect

example too. much has been written about this. show,ou go do a different it takes time to define who you are and what you're doing. you don't want to simply say, i'm going to do what i do and doing -- i've been doing. larry: it's not easy. talented,smart and and he has such a big fan base. is going to be great. i'm excited. i'm always sad when things go away. but i'm a person that always looks forward, and i'm so excited about the different opportunities. i've always been interested in mentoring young writers and producers, people you see who it would be good for them to get a chance to get in the business and make their mark. much.e: thank you very

back ina moment. stay with us. ♪

charlie: daniel radcliffe is here, he stars in a new film called "imperium." white supremacy group planning on creating a

dirty bomb. trailer.he >> you see the type of organization we have here. we can always use a man like you, nathan. educated, war veteran, clean record. >> tell us your real objective. >> this is revolutionary activity we are working on here. >> i need an informant to get in there and make a difference. >> we know where you live. >> you do have the skills. humanng to these guys as beings. just because you're not looking

at something -- >> get your hands off me. >> doesn't mean it's not there. >> it look ok? -- you lok? >> big things are coming. >> an event that wakes people up. it's morning in america and there's a new day coming. >> these guys are fanatics. they will not be taken alive. triumph, it only takes good men. -- men to do nothing. what is your opinion on infiltration? >> do you suspect someone? >> is like we say at these

rallies, look to the left, look to the right. one of these people is a snitch. charlie: i'm pleased to have daniel radcliffe at this table. daniel: heavy going. it's a world i have to research and read a lot about, particularly very depressing reading. we do have -- we don't have the havein the u.k., but we our very right wing skinheads. i've seen our version of those guys. charlie: is this about mike german's life? daniel: not specifically. pretty much everything in the movie is inspired by something true, something that happened to mike or something the director read during his research.

there are things, details like, mike german really was given a copy of "how to win friends and influence people" and said it is the only undercover training you'll need. book.e: dale carnegie's daniel: it really was. the main thing you have in your disposal is the ability to make yourself useful. people won't kill you and they won't beat you up if they think you can do something for them. was, when mike went undercover most of the time he was set up as a hardened criminal who would be able to help them. this aregroups like constantly on the lookout for somebody infiltrating them. daniel: absolutely. i said to mike, did you ever get

accused of being an fbi agent? he said yeah, all the time. not just him, they threw that around as an insult. charlie: i would assume it's in part looking to see if anybody pledges at all. daniel: i think you do have to have nerves of steel to do that. mike is a calm, measured character. that probably saved his life. he said, if you try and be a tough guy in a room full of tough guys -- charlie: when you created the character -- tell me what you thought you had to capture. was it the fearlessness or living with the fear? daniel: i think it was living with the fear, and really trying to show what undercover work is actually like.

in the film we get used to depictions of being undercover which involve a lot of guns and violence. in reality if you fire a gun when you're undercover, you are the worst undercover agent in the world. the other things you haven't your disposal are your intelligence and charm -- have at your disposal are your intelligence and charm. and how hard the work is, in terms of the man hour you put into it or it for every hour you spend with the people surveilling, you spent two hours transcribing that hour. it's a very lonely life. the thing most exciting about the script is often you get a script which sets a character up as being smart and in the final 1/3 of the movie, he becomes jason bourne. this one stays true to the character they set up until the end. roof in dylann charleston was a white supremacist? daniel: i believe so. , athe time this happened

the time i read the script, it was around the time that dylann roof happened. there was a real reluctance on the part of people to refer to that as being terrorism. i think one of the points the film makes is that terrorism has lots of different forms. this is tony go let talking to nate, you, talking about timothy mcveigh. >> you seem like you have more going on than most around here. remember that oklahoma city? >> yeah. i guess i was 5, but sure. >> what do you know about timothy mcveigh? >> he was some kind of loan extremist? -- lone extremist? >> timothy big -- timothy

mcveigh was a decorated gulf war veteran. he was not insane, he was not a lunatic, he was not stupid. he was a white supremacist following a plan from a book called "the turner diaries," about a race war to exterminate blacks, jews, and mud people. you know how the war got started? the hero drives a truck bomb into a federal building. timothy mcveigh was reenacting that scene from "the turner diaries." he was carrying the book with him when he was arrested and what he was trying to do was start the race war. you're focused on the islamic guys. i get it right we all create a narrative based on what we think is important. we see what we want to see. but just because you're not looking at something, doesn't mean it's not there. -- and thenette

there's the question, you've been quoted on why they decided to do this. you said, somebody's life prior had no meaning suddenly feels like they are engaged in something meaningful. we should try to find a way of getting them into this conversation. the more you ostracize them and aggressively dismiss them, the more it plays into their world view that everything is a conspiracy against them. the moment you dehumanize them as they it'sanize other people, hard to have a conversation with somebody when you start from a place of telling them that they are stupid or less than you. you have to try to find some understanding, if we believe minds can still be changed, which i think they can. some people will believe this until they go to their grave.

it has happened many times, former white supremacists have sort of recanted. for my own sanity, my belief in the world -- charlie: many people argue that we have to figure out in terms of the violent on a mental extremism -- fundamental extremism we're seeing in the middle east, figure out an alternative narrative so the young people will not find themselves lured to that. belong, a place to engage. any time -- mike makes this great point where he says, if you can say if you're a guy who lost his job and his wife left him, you can say, that did not happen because i'm bad at my job and my wife doesn't love me anymore, it's because it's a global conspiracy. it's an appealing worldview to

have it taken out of your control. that's one of the things that is very much true, this idea of , an ideaism perpetuated by the sort of intellectual elite of all of these not just white supremacist but any terror organizations, so they don't have to get their hands dirty, so they can spout this hate. and not get arrested for it. nate is this is where having his first undercover meeting with white supremacists. here it is. >> guys like you, with military backgrounds, we need those practices in our security. >> i think our security is pretty good. >> there's always room to

improve, though. >> oh, yeah -- yeah? like what? >> look at the position of this booth and without looking, tell me what it's intersections are. we are ready for whatever goes down. >> with only him and you? >> and how do you think you know that? >> when you pat someone down so they are facing everybody's lap, it's easy to tell. in all these years you learn how to scan a room. what did mike tell you about the skills he needed to infiltrate? daniel: he really talked about maintaining his calm. he sort of cultivated a reputation as being the hippie out, who was really chilled

and no one could upset and he was very late act -- laid back. he made everybody liked him, was his main tactic. he said some possible to play a character -- it's impossible to play a character. he said, you have to be you as much as you can. you just have to be you with this set of views. charlie: this is the third film you've made this year. daniel: it's been a good summer. i've been doing a play as well in new york. charlie: a close last night? -- it closed last night? daniel: yes. charlie: some sense of how you try to find balance between place you want to do, because you can't really find a schedule that allows you to take that time off. daniel: absolutely.

i think it will always be split film and theater, but there's never been a play i've done where i haven't come away feeling like a better actor because of it. charlie: what is it about theater making you a better actor? daniel: it's partially confidence, a thing of knowing you can exist and do your job without the safety net of multiple takes and an editor. think it's partially when you have to do the same thing every night, you have to become more resourceful and imaginative. that definitely carries over into film. if you did 10 takes, you just have more ideas. charlie: do you look at your life and say, thank god i got a franchise role to play? daniel: kind of. i do. charlie: make any kind of film you want after that.

at the moment, i've got the ability to be really picky and i don't have to do something unless i'm passionate. i've learned over the last few years that i will be better in something the happier i am while i'm doing it. hink -- especially when i look at my friends -- some of them are clamoring to get into franchises. i'm very lucky to have that behind me. charlie: you did not know it would last as long as it did. daniel: no. i did not know it would be a play. charlie: might they make that play into a film? daniel: i don't make assumptions. charlie: you haven't read the play. daniel: i'm about to have a holiday, so i will read it when i'm away. some tickets.for

i would never close the door on it depends how comfortable i am with where i am in my career, if i will go back to it. i just have to see where i am when and if the opportunity arises. charlie: much success. great to have you here. the flim opens on -- film opens on friday night. ♪

♪ mark: donald trump has shaken up and expanded his senior staff with three months until election day. overnight, the republican nominee added two names, one is familiar to wadr viewers and pretty much every tv news watcher across the fruited plain. that is kellyanne conway, promoted to the position of campaign manager. here is what kellyanne conway