♪ ♪ ♪ >> welcome to "the best of with all due respect." with labor day around the corner we decided to take a look back , at the best moments from our show this summer. temperatures might be cooling, the race for the white house is hotter than ever. this week, hillary clinton focused on fund raising. donald trump zeroed in on immigration after crossing the border coming meeting with the mexican president on wednesday. >> a new poll shows that clinton's on favorability rating is creeping up into donald trump territory. el donaldo. hours before his eagerly awaited

address on immigration in phoenix, arizona trump sat down , with the mexican president for a discussion about that very issue, which in a statement afterwards, trump called substantive and direct before launching into a scripted, subdued, but still sharp warning about open borders and open trade. mr. trump: in both mexico and the united states, this is a humanitarian disaster. having a secure border is a sovereign right and mutually beneficial. we recognize and respect the right of either country to build a physical barrier or wall on any of its borders to stop the illegal movement of people, drugs, and weapons. cooperation toward achieving the shared objective -- and it will be shared -- of safety for all citizens is paramount to both the united states and to mexico. >> trump went on to say that he

and pena had not discussed to -- who would pay for the border wall. earlier today in a speech to the american legion in cincinnati, hillary clinton instructed voters to pay no attention to the man south of the border, telling them not to confer trust in trump just because he met with a world leader. mrs. clinton: with countries working together with my job , every day as your secretary of state. it's more than a photo op, it takes consistency and reliability, and it certainly takes more than trying to make up for a year of insults and insinuations, by dropping in on our neighbors for a few hours and then flying home again. that is not how it works. >> we are going to talk about donald trump's immigration speech in a moment, but this trip hastily arranged, kind of , haphazard in its organization.

it's kind of a risky gamut for any presidential nominee. did it pay off? >> listen, to separate out the statecraft, because voters are not paying as close attention have turnedve may on the tv tonight and seen donald trump looking differently , standing shoulder to shoulder with a foreign leader. hillary clinton is right, it does not erase everything he said in the last year. i think jeb bush agree with that assessment. but in terms of where the race stands today they are both , trying to appeal to a very small group of voters who really do not like either one of them. and we may have seen a different donald trump today in appearance. john: donald trump was very low energy. he made your old friend jeb bush look hyperactive in terms of appearance. i think the reason nominees go to foreign countries is to try to look presidential and give people a sense of what it might look like if they were

president, and they have a lot of these meetings. nicole: some of them go just to see if those are who they would work with. john: well, yes, it turns out that is why trump went there. veryrned out to be conventional, which was to give the impression that he could sober, subdued appearance. i do not know if coming into this immigration speech, whether trump's core supporters look at that and say, that is the donald trump that will take it to the mexicans. i do not know if they look at that. but certainly, those in the middle of the electorate that worry that he is such a hot head that anything he does outside of american soil or outside of american soil will blow up. that was at least, not blowing up. that was not a conflagration. nicole: and in terms of where he is, there are some voters, the fact that he did not show up in a foreign country and get run out of the place, that is a good day for trump.

and we have more from our bloomberg reporter. eric, tell us what went down today in mexico city. eric: absolutely extraordinary press conference and meeting today between donald trump and the mexican president. this came together in the last 24 hours. they agreed on a lot of things. or said in the press conference that they agreed on a lot of things, but at the same time, they skirted a lot of the hard issues. resident nieto said trump rhetoric has hurt the mexican people, perhaps a nod to the comments of rapists and criminals. donald trump said that they discussed the wall, and each country's right to secure its borders. but they did not discuss who would pay for the wall, and so a lot of things have damaged, and the friction point to that relationship, it does not sound like it was on the agenda. a surprising meeting and an interesting one, but one in which we did not see that clash

and tensions on display. john: so president pena nieto has compare donald trump to hitler's. he talks about him in the context of mussolini. thehappy was he to share stage, in your point of view, today with donald trump? eric: president nieto looked very focused, you know, very serious, but there were certainly -- we had a curveball where we were told there would be no questions. and then at the end of donald trump's statement, some of the reporters who have been covering him started shouting questions, and as donald trump is want to do, he began answering them, and and president nieto did not know what to do with that. he may have a longer track record at this point in terms of hillary clinton in terms of not holding a press conference, at least in mexico. he might speak to the press extemporaneously when he travels, but i cannot remember the last time we had a

presidential press conference had questions in mexico. so the answer they talked about , the rhetoric, which i just mentioned, but it was a little bit of an uncomfortable moment, in terms of donald trump going off script. nicolle: what struck me was trumps comments about nafta, he said it turned out better for mexico than the u.s. do you have any reporting of mexico about the government of that opinion, or was there anything before that meeting or coming out of it about taking a new look or partnering with donald trump and take a fresh look at nafta? eric: that is certainly one thing the mexican government does not agree with donald trump. they are not benefiting the highlights, they are talking about how much u.s. content goes into every dollar of exports from mexico. they talk about the benefits of cross-border production change, autoains, particularly the

industry. when they are talking about modernizing nafta, i am not sure they're talking about the same thing. john: eric, when the news broke of that donald trump was headed to mexico city, the usual -- the news reports said there could be protests and outrage in the streets by mexicans about trum'' arrival. how did that play out? ic: you know, we really did not see a lot of that. people who might have opposed this had less than 12 hours, or little over 12 hours to organize things once the news came out, so we saw people going to twitter and seeing how mexico had so little to gain from this. and trump is doing badly in the polls, so mexicans who oppose him saying this could breathe new life into his campaign. but we have not seen people out

in the streets, really showing that opposition and the criticism of pena nieto, who is suffering from record low popularity as a president. olle: exactly. fears of protesters. we are smarter for your reporting. thank you, very much. john: when we come back, we look at recent polls in battleground states. stay tuned. ♪

♪ nicolle: fox news has a new national poll out, showing the presidential race tightening up. a bit. in the two-way race hillary , clinton beating donald trump by 6 points, but that is down from her 10-point lead a month ago.

in a four-way race, they are tied libertarian gary johnson , getting 9% of the bow. green party's jill stein coming in at 4%. larry sabatino is -- sabato is the director of the center for politics at the university of virginia is tracking polls and joins us to talk about the battleground states. larry what should we be paying , more attention to? these to a numbers that seem to be everywhere, or what people actually see when they go to vote, the four-way polls? sabato: the two-way is much more indicative of how it will turn out, and the difference is six-point pretty close to the polling average of about five points for hillary clinton. there is research indicating, and i think it is good research, that the four-way race, just by introducing the names of the third-party candidates, you increase their support. especially in a race like this. their numbers are going to go

down between now and november. john: larry, i want to talk to about battleground states. i know you say colorado, michigan, virginia, others, likely democrat, and there are a bunch of traditional blue states like nevada, iowa, ohio, north florida, and you have those as leaving democrat. among those, that barack obama won, where is hillary clinton most vulnerable? sabato: well, she is vulnerable in in iowa, because most of them are white, non-college, which is trump's bailiwick. in nevada, she is somewhat vulnerable because they have been in a terrible recession, much longer and deeper than the rest of the country. and we all know that north carolina is incredibly close, it always is. i tend to think it has a little bit of a blue tint this year. florida and ohio, it is obvious to everyone, they are highly

competitive, and i still give her the edge. nicolle: larry, what do you attribute the tightening this week to? hillary clinton's numbers look a lot like what they looked like after the comey press conference. it seems she goes through a scandal, there is a tightening, and she gets a couple good weeks behind her, and there is a widening. do you think this is a pattern we can expect if the contours of the race stay basically the same? sabato: no, i think it is the gradual disintegration of the balance. to be blunt, his convention was not very impressive. the democratic convention was excellent from a number of different perspectives. hillary clinton got a big bounce out of it. but just on schedule, the convention bounce has declined as we approach labor day, and we are back to a lead that makes sense. now remember how polarized we , are. i think it is very unlikely that hillary clinton is going to do much worse than barack obama did in 2012.

he won by four points. or much better than barack obama did in 2000 eight, when everything was going the way, and he won by seven points. john: let's look at the states that are traditionally red states, that they say the clinton campaign can put in play. they said today they are going on the air, for example in , arizona, there are five other normally republican states that could be in play, georgia, arizona, and to some extent, maybe maybe utah, kansas, , missouri, south carolina. which one of those normally red states as a place where trump might be vulnerable? most vulnerable? mr. sabato: there are only two coup, arizona and kansas. but they will go for trump. the margins for him as the republican nominee will be considerably lower than for other nominees. the popular vote, that is, but

it does not matter, as long as he gets one more vote than clinton in those states. arizona and georgia are ripe for the picking, and yet, we are so polarized that on my map, i have kept them light red because i think in the end, the partisans will come home but if i am , wrong, it will be about arizona and georgia. nicolle: let's shift to the state of the senate races. you say democrats are on the slight favorite to win the chamber. walk us through that. ato: the senate has 54 seats, democrats have to win four, assuming tim kaine becomes vice president and breaks the tie. there are two seats that pretty much everyone concedes to the republicans, republicans in illinois are likely to lose. so where will those two coup seats come from -- two seats come from? the most likely third seat is in

indiana, where senator edwin by is trying to keep his seat, and and pennsylvania and new hampshire are both leaning toward democrats with republican incumbents. democrats only have to worry about nevada. nicolle: i am happy to hear that my friend rob is not on your list. ok larry, thank you so much for , giving us a look into your crystal ball. john: up next, republican strategist and never trumper. discussing demographics and the donald, right after this. ♪

♪ john: we're back with our smart guy, dan, i will ask you something, dan. it is not likely that it would have been in the real world, but pretend that you are running donald trump's debate practice. dan: i would just love that.

john: what would you do? if you were actually -- take it seriously. what do you think the challenges -- main and be made strategic objectives? dan: i would say do not take the wrong lessons from the primary debates. what you are about to experience in the general election debate is nothing comparable to the primary election debate. that is on a stage with 13 people, those were an hour and a half to two hours. in any given evening. the amount of actual time he was on tour, cumin early, what? 10 minutes? 20 minutes? he had a lot of breaks during those debates. not just for as, but when ted cruz and marco rubio are fighting. and when chris christie and marco rubio were fighting. >> he gets to be king of the hill. but it is not just the time, it is the whole dynamic. but also the stamina. i was struck when i did the paint -- debate prep for rubio, and even when you sought trump

backstage, and i talked to people, and he was exhausted. he actually did not like the debate process. he liked his moments that were effective but he did not like to , stand there for hours and deal with all the fatigue associated with that. now he is on, with 100 million people will be watching. it is just him against one person. not him against 13 people. there are no breaks or distractions. and actually, hillary clinton has had much more debate experience that is relevant to these kinds of debates. her debates with bernie sanders in the last half of this primary process are more similar to what she will be dealing with with trump. her debates with barack obama, basically one-on-one in 2008. she has much more experience. do mock debates. he said he does not want to do mock debates. just in terms of getting to that rhythm and finding what it is like -- >> i have a feeling, regardless on the docket, there would just be one debate, he wins thatmehow

debate, and he will be humiliated. he is not going back up there. i have a feeling this could be our only debate. any thoughts on that? >> it is my view that everything except the first debate is up for grabs. the dates for the debates how be, exactly would for the reasons you are talking about. the trump campaign has not said they are committed to all three debates. so i think there is some chance for the reasons you say, but after that first debate, things could change. >> he would have to do so well to bail. i mean even if he does well, i , think he does not do well enough to say that i am done. i have this locked up. >> that is the problem. >> in this debate, the best he could do is probably bring most of the republican voters home. what happened to romney after the first debate. so romney in the first debate against obama, what happened is he brought home the skeptical republicans.

i think trump could do the same thing but that is not winning , the election. >> but let's say the actions are negative going forward. i think people start to think a little differently. i think he is more concerned that these stunning negative that one ignorant gaffe, that one howard dean moment, i love howard dean, but as an example, but in the absence of a future negative. john: let's talk about gary johnson. what are the implications? if johnson gets into the debate, it means what, for each of them? >> i used to think that he was just a problem for trump. that he just has the potential to get disaffected republican voters who are unhappy with trump somewhere to go. and he allows that to happen but , you watch the positions he is taking and the arguments he has made, there is a lot there that could reach out to appeal to hillary voters and could appeal to bernie sanders voters. so i actually think him being there could potentially be a problem for both of them, and it

is not clear to me who. i think there are voters that should be going to both of them that could end up going to johnson. if i were either one of them, i would not want there. >> let me ask you a question. if you have the gotcha question for each of them, would be the most compelling? you have one question for each to put them on the spot. >> i do not know, that is a really good question. i think you would want to try to test trump on substance and policy in a way that does not feel ridiculous. >> gives us a specific. john it does not feel ridiculous : to ask in the capital of an of -- of skier country i am not , sure he can name -- >> the prime minister of britain. john basic yardstick, questions : about the constitution. he has been confused about the number of articles in the constitution. trying to get him to reveal some glaring flaw that anyone as president of the united states

should know, which he does not know. >> you don't even have to do that. i don't think you need to do a true gotcha. remember one of the last debates that rubio and trump were in, rubio pressed trump on policy. on his health-care plan. and rubio said, i will give you my time. imagine if hillary said, i will give you my time, explain your health care plan. you have my time, and he could not. he kept referring to the lines. actually you don't even have to , do gotcha, just press him on basic policy. and yield your time. john: what about clinton in this context? the gotcha question or the toughest question. >> dissecting the first term obama national security legacy. i think, again i would stick , with policy and really make her own that period. the best shot republicans have against hillary is to make this a change election, and make her the third term of what many voters think has been at worst,

a failed, at best, and unsatisfying presidency. make her own that, and deal with her policy legacy when she was secretary of state. it is not pretty. the world is a mess. john: you saw mitt romney struggle with immigration up close in 2012 and not being able to solve the deportation question and getting tagged as a stealth deportation advocate. what can trump do tomorrow in his immigration speech tomorrow to solve the problem he has between what the general electorate wants on immigration, and what his base demands? >> i do not think much. i mean if you believe that , tomorrow he is trying to say something to reassure latino voters as opposed to just white, educated, as we talked, suburban voters if you think he is , actually trying to reach latino voters, i just think hillary clinton, the dnc, have a massive amount of resources to just remind that electorate that regardless of what trump says,

this is what he actually has been arguing for the past year. i think we tend to think this point,is an important this cable appearance. at this stage in the election, if you are a voter in say ohio, are you paying that much to -- paying that much attention to his speech? what is going to have more impact for you? that or just the ads on your local broadcast channel with his xenophobic rhetoric? i do not think one speech -- at this stage in the general election, it is about master climate of media and grassroots organization. john: just a make it clear, dan is famously never trump. thank you for being on the show. coming up, a two-for-one. a two-for-one. a best of within the best of. the best of within the best up. the best moments from both

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♪ john: congratulations, you survived you are, yes, your summer of trump. second it flew by so fast, we thought we would take the moment of labor day weekend to reflect on the plots and subplots of the republican nominee's summer. >> if you are thinking he cannot do his job because of his race, is that not the definition of racism? mr. trump: i don't think so at all, he is a mexican. we want to build a wall between here and mexico. >> many republicans are watching this in horror. >> saying someone cannot do a job because of the race is

textbook racism. >> it is extraordinary, but get used to it, there will be more of it. mr. trump: if i'm elected, i will suspend immigration from areas of the world where there is a proven history of terrorism against the united states. >> i do not think a muslim ban is in our country's interests. i do not think it is reflective of our principles, not just as a race, but as a country. >> a lot of the media and a lot of republicans do not want trump and the electorate to win, but those that do, think this is being cooked right now in a way that will make it difficult for him to recover from. mr. trump: the republicans, honestly, folks our leaders have , to get tougher. this is too tough to do it alone. but, you know what? i think i will be forced to. john the notion that you can go : it alone and become the president of the united states with no help from anyone, it is all me, all going to be me, is not in touch with reality. >> donald trump used his signature line, you are fired, today.

>> donald trump with a message for his campaign manager. you are fired. why did trump get rid of him? >> after months of tension, having two people bickering over personnel decisions about how he operates, etc., donald trump's children and other advisers convinced him that this had to be done. mr. trump: hillary clinton may be the most corrupt person ever to seek the presidency of the united states. >> the themes trump chose about changing washington, about the country being able to rely on hillary clinton to change things, questioning her veracity. i thought they were well chosen. and he just so happened to be in the united kingdom today, he reacted to the brexit news. mr. trump: i see a parallel between what is happening in the united states and what is happening here. saddam hussein was a bad guy, but you know what he did well? he killed terrorists. john: the saddam thing has

gotten as much if not more attention as the e-mails. >> there is speculation that has reached critical mass today. a lot of news outlets reporting pence is the choice for trump. he is a steady influence. he is a policy guy. he is the opposite of trump in a lot of ways and that will , reassure people. >> i have a great deal of respect for john mccain. >> do you think he went too far? >> i think you could say yes. clearly this man is not a politician. john for a lot of people his minutes"ance on "60 was cringe-inducing because you have mike pence saying these things about issues he does not clearly believe. >> the twitter session of copying michelle obama. mark: this has republicans concerned about the competence of the campaign. they have done nothing to turn the page on a narrative which is killing us.

senator cruz: stand and speak and vote your conscience. mark everyone talking about the : fallout from last night, ted cruz's endorsement-less speech. mr. trump: i gratefully accept your nomination. mark: i thought it was good, and i certainly think it left the convention on a high note. mr. trump: russia, if you're listening, i hope you were able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing. john there is no upside for : donald trump to give ammunition to democrats at this moment. goldstar members of u.s. service members killed in combat are demanding an apology for talking about them at the convention. as of all of this was not enough trouble for donald trump, the campaign is also dealing with a different kind of controversy from over the weekend. mr. trump: he is not going to go into the ukraine. john: this is in the news. they went into ukraine two years ago, this is not a headline you

need to be a super expert to know about. >> we are organized in moving forward. >> it could be worse, but below the scenes, there is panic in the republican party. mr. trump: we are reducing from -- your taxes from 35% to 15%, i am going to cut regulations massively. mark: more than he ever has in this campaign since the general election started, he said, here is a coherent set of ideas that republicans and he hopes others can get on board with. mr. trump: if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do folks. , although the second amendment people, maybe there is. i don't know. mark: he loves to be a showman, he loves to joke. this was a joke that was not appropriate. mr. trump: i call president obama and hillary clinton the founders of isis. they are the founders. mark: he called president obama and hillary clinton the founders of isis. they don't get sarcasm? might explain his new slogan, could i be any lower in the

polls? donald trump has shaken up senior staff. months left until election day. if kellyanne conway gets on the plane with trump, keep them focused, that improves his chances of winning. >> paul manafort, the campaign chair out. , >> my father did not want that distraction looming over the campaign. mr. trump: you're living in poverty, your schools are no good, you have no jobs what the , hell do you have to lose? >> the nihilism of what do you have to lose? that is as arguments go, you , have to hand it to trump for innovating. flew to mexicoo with his first meeting with a foreign head of state. mr. trump: we did discuss the wall, we did not discuss payment of the wall. we will build a great wall along the southern border, and mexico will pay for the wall. john: the weather report in

allary land this summer was little funny, sunny, breezy, and definitely heated. here is a recap of clinton's summer non-vacation. mrs. clinton: i believe the person the republicans have nominated for president cannot do the job. mark: it is a sustained attack on trump, and she showed she could do it with humor and i would say elegance. and despite what trump said about her, a pretty good performance. last night the associated press reported that clinton had reached the mega-majestic magic number to advance as her party's standardbearer. mrs. clinton: bridges are better than walls. john: she leads the race with a bigger head of steam than people expected she would. mark democrats have more : confidence in her performance abilities than they've have had in months. president obama: i am fired up and cannot wait to get out and campaign for hillary.

mark it is tighter on a staff : level than anyone in modern history. mrs. clinton: the orlando terrorist may be dead, but the virus that poisoned his mind remains very much alive. john she is playing at a very : high level. she still has room to grow. her biggest weakness, as i started to say is a still the , record. mrs. clinton: i have clearly said that we faced terrorist enemies who use a perverted version of islam to justify slaughtering innocent people. so if donald suggests, i will not call this threat what it is he has not been listening. , economists on the right and left and the center all agree, trump would throw us back into recession. john: i thought this was solid, sharp, strong, and made the case she wanted to make. not as effective, i think, as that first one, that foreign first policy-driven one. mrs. clinton: i am here today -- because i am with her.

yes, her. [applause] mark: does she look like hillary clinton's running mate? john: she would consider her. mrs. clinton: they had reported they had found nothing. mark republicans could not have : played more into hillary clinton's hands and her campaign's hands on how do you investigate a clinton? they're getting blowback for an ordinary and extraordinary private conversation on monday between bill clinton and the attorney general of the united states, loretta lynch. >> bad judgment. horrible judgment. mark: >> this will add to the division,ecision -- in a way not helpful. komi: -- comey:

although we do not find clear evidence that secretary clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless. we are expressing to justice our view that no charges are appropriate in this case. john: this is binary. indictment or no indictment. if she was indicted or he suggested criminal charges, this would be one of the worst days in her life. she might not be the democratic nominee and might not be the president of the united states. mrs. clinton please join me in : welcoming the president of the united states. president obama: hillary! hillary! [applause] mark: the crowd here was in love with what they saw on stage. and the clinton people were in love with it. he was once a critic of hers, now a convert. that is a powerful, political plus. no reasonable: prosecutor would bring the second case in 100 years focused on gross negligence. should have known, must have

known, does not get you there. mark hillary clinton won the : day. they just were not ready to have the kind of strategy. but they did not have a strategy. senator sanders: hillary clinton will make an outstanding president, and i am proud to stand with her today. john: already a rocking, raucous, rollicking convention. and we are just getting started. infuriated by revelations brought to light by the dnc's wikileaks. >> to the bernie or bust people, you're being ridiculous. senator sanders: i move that hillary clinton should be nominated as the democratic nominee. mrs. clinton: i accept your nomination. [applause] john all of those speakers -- and thating that case frame, that is the reason why it looks more successful. mrs. clinton: director comey said i was truthful and consistent with what i told the american people.

john: this e-mail thing has taken a huge troll. she paid a big political price. mark: the e-mails show the clintons doing what they said just, moving things along so that everybody wins. except, in some cases some would , argue, the american people. >> hillary understands that the most damaging thing to a payer at, if you look at a sick child or a child in need and not be , able to do anything. >> the biggest hole they need to fill quickly is around the clinton foundation. this has been something that has been teed up for years. the fact that the clinton campaign is still taking foreign donations at this point seems highly questionable. john: ap reported that more than half of hillary clinton's meetings with people outside the government as a secretary of state were with individuals who gave money to the clinton foundation in some way. it is clearly the case that is -- that there is a quid pro quo

and they may have changed foreign policy, that would be explosive. we do not have that yet, but there is still something seedy. mrs. clinton: donald trump built his campaign on prejudice and paranoia. he is taking hate groups mainstream. john they have been doing very : good at getting people to flip to focus on trump because he , gives so much ammunition. mrs. clinton: you do not build a coalition by insulting our friends or acting like a loose cannon. you do it by putting in the slow, hard work of building relationships. john: this summer has presented unprecedented events. our favorite moments from the past few months. that is up next. ♪

♪ john: over the course of this past summer we have heard , different voices from politics, media, and culture. here are our favorite moments. from these past few months.

there are an incredible array of stories from this book what is , the most relevant story to understanding what is happening in 2016? >> oh, you have to go to wallace in 1968, just because wallace stepped into disappointment with regular, blue-collar workers and the elite. and got really at the crux of it, they make these decisions that you pay for. and we will not stand for it anymore. i feel like think that is a similar sentiment, and then, of course, you get the idea that wallace -- the voters of he spoke his mind. and the sense that wallace said something other people were not. mark: the first presidential candidates i covered was bill clinton, and i thought, wow presidential candidates are , really interesting and great speakers who work 20 hours a day. your first presidential candidate, equally unusual, trump. what gives the sense of what it is like to cover him day-to-day? >> it is a wild roller coaster ride, or as i said in the

article, a hurricane making landfall on a daily basis. i mean you can do one story up , until 5:30 that day, and a t 6:30 the nightly news comes around. and he might tweet something or say something that upends the entire process. i never thought in my entire life i would hear someone running for president would say that someone else was schlonged. >> i think we're going to see more pop culture in politics, more of what we call in the movie business as pre-aware titles. but there could be another filter where maybe a kardashian is not such a good idea, or someone that has done their homework, like a clooney or -- on the left or a gary cindy's -- sinise on the right. john: we want a long-term dock, cody simpson. you are not thrilled by the subject initially. what turned it around? >> the idea that they came to me with a larger canvas, we want to do five hours.

the thing about the five hours part of it, what i was reluctant to do was about guilt or innocence. as soon as it happened, that i realized i had a bigger canvas to i could tell a story about work with i could tell a story about los angeles, about race in , america and race in los angeles, about who oj was, and a story about the lapd. these things i am interested in. and, i think of been overlooked in explaining the events of 1994 and 1995. >> if donald trump was not our thenee, and hillary had days that we just had but if it , were another democrat, running against a guy like trump, the democratic nominee would be probably up 15 points. we have these two flawed candidates, and another missed opportunity that is missing in -- that seems to be a theme of the cycle. mark: evaluate how it has gone to uniting behind donald trump.

>> i think we are moving in the right direction. i think coming out of this week we will be largely united, if , not entirely. and that is important because being united is not enough. republicans do not make up a majority in this country, no more than the democrats. we have to come out of here ready to appeal to moderates and disaffected democrats who want change. >> where are the bernie people from your state, from minnesota? what is their mood as they approach and prepare to leave? >> we have had an incredibly positive mood in our delegation and we have worked incredibly , hard. but we is always rosey, introduced bernie as a congressman and announced our delegate counts together. we worked really hard to make sure that we come together. and i think you will see that in our delegation. of course, you're going to get people yelling here and there. it is the convention, the democratic party. but the notion, the people that want to do something about

going to go and support a guy who thinks it is a hoax perpetrated by the chinese. or someone who wants to do more with diplomacy will go with support of a guy who told russia to engage in espionage. i mean this does not feel like , the bernie supporters to me. is there any time when you thought she might lose to bernie sanders? >> i cannot say i was nervous, but i never thought that she would lose. get nervous, that i come back and think about, well, just a bunch of this and that. i a do not get nervous. >> one of the biggest challenges this country faces is the threat of islamist terrorism. i am the only credible candidate who has any experience whatsoever, firsthand, fighting terrorists. i know exactly what needs to be done to defeat isis and other such groups.

and on day one, i can start that process. i have 100% confidence in that, i have zero doubt this is my , wheelhouse. >> i will make you a deal, i will look him in the eye, will have all the transcripts from the speeches and all the e-mails -- i want the 32,000 e-mails. some smart kid out in silicon valley, they can get them for us pretty you are on. mark: what are the chances trump will win? >> looking at the august polls, it is 20% or less. when i look at the polls today, if you take all of these swing states, hillary is winning by a dominant amount but i will say , what you said to be fair. it is august, and i think there is plenty of time. mark: what is trump's floor in the popular vote? >> it is 42%, 43%. for any major party. mark: what is the feeling of the

popular vote? yan: -- kelly and -- >> her ceiling is about 47%. he could win. >> eventually everyone gets tired and exhausted from it. unfortunately, that usually is the voting public. everyone is exhausted and does not want to be involved anymore. but my hope is that a show like "hamilton" keeps interest peaked, makes teenage kids pay a little bit more attention to what happens in civics class, figure out a little bit more about what happened before i was born so i can understand the context and have a context for what is happening now. john: coming up, we talked to will leitch about controversy swirling around the quarterback colin kaepernick. stay tuned. ♪

♪ john: there are few events in

the annals of american politics where no one will ever forget where they were the first man , landed on the moon, when president obama was inaugurated when kaepernick refused to stand for the national anthem. itwas asked about whether played a part in the timing. >> it was not a timing thing, nothing that was planned. but i think the two presidential candidates we currently have also represent the issue that we have in this country right now. >> do you want to expand on that? >> i mean, you have hillary, who has called black teenagers super predators, you have donald trump who is openly racist. i mean we have a presidential , candidate who has deleted e-mails and done things illegally and is a presidential candidate. that does not make sense to me. because if that was any other person, you would be in prison. so what does this country really

standing for? >> it is a country that has elected a black president. twice. can you say why the outrage in a country that has elected a black has done many things and sacrificed a lot of things for freedom? >> it has elected a black president, but there are a lot of things that have not changed. john: our friend will leitch has a column calling kaepernick's protest a pivotal moment for the nfl. and he writes, there'll be many players who do not appreciate the position cap or nick -- kaepernick put them in, even if you agree. you cannot dance between the raindrops forever. will, what is, your argument here? >> well, you know, we have had moments in history where we have

seen lebron james or dwyane wade, with talking about trayvon martin. said it isalways swoosh. approving nike this is different. it is one thing to wear a hoodie and support trayvon martin. stand upther thing to -- not stand up for the flag. in the nfl, the military gives money to nfl teams. so what this did was -- you did not have to go to every major black athlete and say, what do you think about that, what is your stance on that? this is a story that seems like it has crossed over a bit. we might not know all the details of the i cannot breathe shirt but they know what it , means to not stand for the flag. you will see major black athletes all ask about this. john: thank you for watching the latest edition of the best of

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