♪ john: joining us now is senator david purdue. thank you for joining us. david:ole -- senator good to be with you guys. favoritedonald trump a underdog or a tossup? senator david: voter turnout was up 60% and i lived that same thing in my race in georgia and i think he has touched a nerve. i do not believe these national polls right now either way,

think there is a lot of noise in the system and quite frankly the intensity behind trump support does not show up in the polls. i think he has a chance to win this time i think it will be close in some battleground oftes, high ground is lack the performance in the obama administration and the fact that hillary clinton is offering no change in direction and the people want that more than anything else. mark: when you say he has a chance, can i take that you still think he is the underdog? senator david: i operate every day as an underdog in my race and he is working every day as if he is not an underdog. my prediction is he will win big and i believe this is bigger than donald trump and bigger than me, this is about the direction of our country and people are realizing the direction we are taking right now is failing. this is the weakest economic recovery and over 70 years -- seven years.

people are hurting out there struggling to get from payday to payday and a lot of times these polls and away we look at that in washington is through the lens of the washington establishment sometimes misses that i think that is what is going on right now. >> you are a former ceo of a fortune 500 company? i want to ask you about a story in the washington post that hegests in his business when faced legal problems that he agreed to make charitable donations to make lawsuits go away and use money from his those -- would you consider that profit behavior -- appropriate behavior? senator david cold and it goes through a court that gordon and he is convicted obvious that is a problem. we have the same thing on hillary's side, she was in a

government position taking personal advantage of the government position. those are serious allegations. it's a issue reimann -- in my mind is that people in america want to see a direction for the company and they want to have hope again and we are not seeing that out of the hillary campaign. we are talking about changes of that are changing -- things that really bother people at a time when they see a crisis globally, but also here at home economically. this debt is a real issue and we see no solutions from the hillary camp. john: i know you are a deficit the debt, there is not a single nonpartisan analysis of the tax plan that does not suggest that it would add trillions of dollars to the national debt. make the case for why the trump tax plan is acceptable. senator david: i am excited about it as a first step. what he is talking about is tax

reform pushing back regulations and unleashing this energy boom that we have been given. i would love to see us move to a repatriation tax in the nation as well but we have to do with redundant agencies and saving social security and medicare. i think he will begin to address it in a campaign. i'm very excited about it. john: whether you have given private advice to the campaign or not about the debate give us advice publicly. what should donald trump do? think heavid: i do not is changing anything and i think right now if he goes in there and takes the high ground he is taking right now to address the failures of the obama administration and talk about the fact that hillary clinton will double down to give us a third term and talk about the hopes and aspirations of america and how they have been disappointed and how the liberal a barackve movement of obama administration of now a potential hillary clinton

administration how failed the very people they claim to champion. it's as a matter with the questions are, he will come on top on monday. >> give us an example of a question you would like to see? senator david: how do you put people back to work? she has no experience. he has created thousands of jobs in the real world. career,as had a perfect but he has had to survive in the free enterprise system and he knows how to fight for people. i want an american president that stands up for american interest and national interests and create a level playing field around the world. he will do that and i think that will become clear as a go through the next several weeks. seven weeks from today. i am optimistic you will see this intensity behind the trump .ampaign grow the ground game is taking force in my state and i think north carolina, new hampshire,

colorado you will see increased activity. you expressed disappointment that your fellow republicans have not unified more fully behind mr. trump. what the youth think explains that? why is it that the already is not unified and why are there so many holdouts and critics? senator david: i think it is self-interest versus national interest. we have a stark contrast in two different directions offered by hillary clinton and donald trump and i do not understand any conservative republican thinking that a direction of hillary clinton would be better than a direction of donald trump. it is time to put our big boy and big girl pants on and step up until the american people a better way and that is what they are hoping for in the next seven weeks. mark: thank you so much for joining us. first presidential debate is less than a week away which means the candidates are making final efforts to set expectations. donald trump last night on the

o'reilly factor. withrump: if she treats me respect that would treat her with respect. people asked me that question, you will go out there and do this and that. i really do not know that come i i am out it out when there. i can talk about her deleting e-mails after she got a subpoena from congress or talk about her record which is a disaster. >> i suspect you will do that. mr. trump: we will go back-and-forth and she has a lot of baggage. she has been there a long time. >> and here is what hillary clinton told jimmy fallon about the unpredictability of trump. >> which trump are you going to get? he seems to be changing of it. mrs. clinton: he is trying to somehow convince people to forget everything he has said and done and i do not think you will get away with that. at least judge us on who we are

and what we have done it what we stand for and maya angelou has this great line and i was fortunate enough to get to know her and she said when someone shows you who he is, believe him the first time. >> both candidates are talking about what they expect and plan to do and do not plan to do to set the table and they will also try to play down their own expectations. who is winning the predebate skirmishes right now? >> i am not sure. a i think are so set on what they think. i think a lead up assumes hillary clinton is the debtor debater and she will be the favorite. i think among the average voters i think a lot of trump supporters think donald trump will clean hillary clinton's clock and vice versa. i am not sure any of the expectation setting will matter at all because this is such an unusual debate with so much expectation and huge high-profile combatants. mark: i reserve the right to

change my mind before monday but i think one thing working in the clinton campaign favor is to get the media to judge this not as a crazy unorthodox contest where the old rules of judging debates go out the window, but to judge it by normal standards and ethics -- i think they feel confident if it is judged by normal standards of a presidential debate they have a better chance of clinton doing well. that does not mean of the normal standards are all that healthy for democracy, but i think they will be comfortable if it is judged the normal way which is a lot about theater criticism and about big moments. they do not want trump to be judged by some trump standard. john: this is a little off topic but i do not know what you think about this. do you think that the moderators to -- should do fact checking in real time if he lies on stage? -- do they have to make

that hillary clinton's decision. mark: i think they should break if thees and -- candidate wants to do that they can do that, but the moderator should not. john: i cannot make up my mind on that. early voting is about to begin it we will talk about the ballot map and we come back. ♪

♪ john: as we get closer tojohn: voteson day, counting up in key battleground states for the a part series we are calling ballot grabs 2016. we are joined by bloombergpolitics contributor/eisenberg -- sasha eisenberg. it is harder to tell which one of you is smarter, more handsome, or shorter. your talking about early voting. >> we work at clarity campaign lassitude look at individual --

labs. fridavoting begins this more than a third of the electorate will vote before election day and it changes the strategy and tactics they need to get to their win number. let's --john: let's focus on trump for a moment and talk about the stakes. where is donald trump in this game? >> the is very reliant on state parties and the rnc. the ohio republican party knows how to get to its voters in the early vote period. the day you send in a request to the secretary of state the state party already has your name doing -- going to a direct mail vendor and if you have not returned your ballot in 10 days they chase you down. the challenge for donald trump is they know how to vote for the

republican ticket, but donald trump mass will need to eat into the democratic party base. there is a big republican ticket in ohio, but they are down to county offices turning out republican voters. talk about the democrats in early voting and the stakes on that side? >> we will see the disparities between these two campaigns when it comes to infrastructure and hillary clinton has the larger infrastructure and staff all over the country, particularly iowa will be a key state where we can watch her in part because iowa is a state, the amount of early votes there is not the largest in any state, but one of the earliest. it starts next week and so we will see hillary clinton try to turn out her more unreliable

voters in iowa that she really needs to win because when you look at the math, republicans have a larger base and the reason democrats win the states is they are able to turn out and -- reach out and turn out more unreliable voters. if she can do that she can win states like iowa, nevada, and other ones. andwill need a head start democrats have been better -- republicans a bit better at turning out early voters than democrats have. obama won once, talk about the situation in north carolina. >> democrats have done a good job getting african-americans to move up to the early voting which is why the recent court decision is overturning some of the election reform laws.

we could see -- hillary clinton's path to victory in north carolina relies -- could rely on mobilizing the existing democratic coalition and if she does that she would know by late october that she basically has the state in a bag and move her persuasion spending to other states where she will be more competitive. john: another state you look at and you can fight after the answer is nevada. kind of amazed at how this has roughly been a democratic state for the last two cycles and there is polling that shows trump ahead. >> nevada is a big early voting state there is a smaller window about 2.5 weeks. they have been really good at turning out a lot of voters in that time. 62% of voters in 2012 voted early and those are voters still on the roles now. the reason that matters is

because of donald trump will win those states it will have to turn out persuadable voters and he has less time to do that and as of now donald trump is not on the air in nevada and so hillary clinton is making a play for those persuadable voters and we have yet to see nald trump go there as a traditional campaign would and convince them. john: let me ask you the dumbest question in the world. i will pretend to be someone who does not understand this at all. if you are a candidate why du care whether someone votes early or late? >> it just depends -- there are different ways of approaching this. some campaigns say let's clear up the most reliable voters early so that as time goes on we can reach into the more difficult parts of the electorate and mobilize people who are unreliable or persuade. others see of the other way which is what we see in iowa where we have a long time. , so let's go to people who are not reliable election day voters and take convenience -- advantage of the convenience to vote early.

--theof it depends on the challenge in nevada is that donald trump's late starts on the airwaves for persuasion and on the ground for mobilization is he will have fewer options as you get closer to election day. if you have a month to turn out voters what sequence do you want them to vote in? john: that and the notion of let's bank some votes. the sequence of these questions seem like important tactical decisions you have to make about what you are baking and where you are baking and what you put on your shoulder. votesyou can bank enough early you can pull out and diverse resources to another state. .ohn: you are a smart kid battleground 2016 series from now until election day every tuesday. these guys are really smart. >> released the latest slice poll focus on annual voters with

indoor household income of $100,000 or more. hillary clinton leads with 41% of the votes and donald trump carries 37%. mitt romney's performance in 2012 or he won the group of rich people. .4% to obama's 44% we are joined with the managing director of purple strategies. why do we care about how could -- how rich people will vote? >> i think what is most important is looking at different divides in the electorate and when you compare what we found here which shows clinton in very good shape compared to romney and you compare that and what -- to what went wrong in the poll of less educated voters you see a huge schism in the real question is can donald trump the together those groups? the coalitions of those who support him by strong measures and win the election. john: the basic deal here is that rich people normally vote

for republicans and in this case hillary clinton seems to have the advantage. talk more about the previous poll and the schism because it seems to me like maybe in addition to education it is one newhe biggest schisms -- a schism this electorate is producing. >> there has been a divide that we have seen for months now. back in june the results were compared and found the difference between white college-educated women and white downscale men was dramatic and something that is growing. if you look at our poll you see the same thing, you have wealthy well-educated voters -- generally well-educated supporting her by four points and you have white downscale voters less educated voters supporting him by 22 points. , our exclusive interview with joe lieberman and dan quayle from the circus. right after this. ♪

♪ mark: as the health of both candidates came under scrutiny new taste -- new attention turned to their running mates. we talked about this topic on the circus come our show on showtime we do in conduction with bloombergpolitics. the past episode on sunday. our cohost mark mckinnon sat down with conversations with two men who came from the -- who knows what comes with the scrutiny of being running mate. >> because hillary clinton got sick and had to go off the trail a china spotlight on the importance of the role of the vice president as the one who is just a heartbeat away from the presidency. how are you? mark mckinnon, great to meet you and how are you mr. vice president? >> good to see a. you.

♪ >> there were a lot of jokes about the vice presidency through history, the oldest is about the two brothers and one went out to see and the other became vice president and neither was heard from again. it is much more than that. >> kenny tell us what it was you aren you learned going to be the vice presidential nominee? >> i was walking back to the hotel and we had beepers in those days and a beeper went off so i got back to the hotel and got the phone number and call it -- darn, iim basic lost. >> expecting to get bad news? >> yes, i was expecting vice president so when it was baker you assumed -- he said, hang on for the veep,

the vice president. on and said i would like to offer you the vice presidency. i said, what is my assignment? he said he need to shop at the spanish plaza at 4:00 and it was 2:00 and i said where the heck is the spanish plaza? he said i don't know, but this is your first assignment so do not screw it up. nixon said "i was about your is when eisenhower came to me. let me to you something, it changes your life forever. >> the question is who has the experience to step into the role of the presidency. the vicetely presidential nominee has to pass the most important test which is the american people will think he or she is capable of being president. >> tell me a little bit about

what it was like to figure out you are on the short list in 2000. end it was down interestingly to john kerry, john edwards, and me and the money -- the smart money over the weekend seemed to be that it would be john edwards. warren christopher apparently said to al gore, mr. vice president, this election will say more about you than it does about the person you are selecting to be your running mate and if you select senator edwards you will have to explain to the american people why you are taking a person who two years ago was practicing law in north carolina and you are putting him second to the most powerful governmental position in the world and apparently that turned the conversation. was likee what it serving as vice president when he got sick of the japanese dinner where he was incapacitated.

>> i got a call from sam skinner about 4:00 in the morning saying we have a problem in the president passed out at dinner. a few minutes barbara bush was on the phone and i said what is going on over there and she said he over did it and i told him not to play, he is fine committee has the flu. she said don't worry about it. >> because she was the real second-in-command. >> that's right. [laughter] >> i think candidates have a responsibility to reveal their baseline health. >> it is not as important as the media makes it out to be. >> would you like to be the next vice president? >> not now. >> thank you to former vice president dan quayle and former senator john lieberman. you can catch the circus at 8:00 p.m. eastern. >> thank you for watching this edition of "best of with all due

respect." we target with twitter for pre-and post game coverage of the debates. @llow our twitter handle bpolitics. ♪

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