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>> we are going to take our country back. >> we have to protect our second amendment. >> we have to stop the inflow. >> this is the most important election of our country has ever had. >> it is time for the american people to take back their future. make sure you get out and vote november 28. ♪ john: november 28.
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y, sports fans. alex letter with me tonight. -- wagner with me tonight. on a day when hillary clinton's campaign is talking about taking the fight to donald trump in utah, georgia, and arizona, the republican nominee is doubling down on his crooked , attacking a democratic nominee that "only cares about money, power, and herself." the candidate has been directing a stream of crackling fire towards his own party, suggesting a conspiracy is afoot. >> the shackles are some of the establishment people that are ineffective inside the republican party.
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paul ryan, they do not give the support we need. i think we should get support. we do not get support from guys like paul ryan. he had a conference call yesterday with congressmen, and they practically rioted against him on the phone. already, the republican nominee has a massive disadvantage. especially when you have leaders not putting their weight behind the people. wouldn't you think paul ryan would call and say, good going? in front of the largest audience for a second night debate in the history of the country. you think they would say, great going, don. let's beat this crook. he does not do that. there is a whole deal going on. if we had a little help from our
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weak leadership, we would be sailing like you have never sailed before. john: today, congressional surrogates pleaded that the donald stop attacking paul ryan. hi, alex. a talk about had whether donald trump attacking his own party will be a winning one. what do you think the broader implications for the republican party up and down the ballot -- what are the implications if trump goes down this path? alex: the implications are sowing the seeds of a bitter harvest. loses, whichmp polling says he will, what he is bateg now will exacer
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tension and acrimony tenfold. after mitt romney's loss in 2012, there were divergent schools of thought. with trump, there will be litigation. before the breaking happened before the election, the notion that the wagons can circle up and there can be a tribal gathering that will result in a reshaped, better republican party receipt -- is a fallacy. john: you look at the big picture. i will go more medium and talk about this story. the new york times wrote about what is going on with down ballot republicans. they are looking at trump attacking paul ryan, john mccain, the whole republican power structure. they are freaking out. their view is that, when trump
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does this, he is obviously hurting himself. voters,t of these college kids, suburban voters, their attitude will be, i am not going to vote for trump. i'm going to stay home. i do not want to vote for kelly ayotte or other republican senators in tough races. they're worried about turnout, that trump will turn away the votes they need to win their races. you see this panic happening all week. that is a large part of it. not just dealing with trump's controversial statements, but he will hurt them by driving away voters that they need. what theonder calculation is in terms of coming out with your disavowal at this time. it is october.
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they have had moments like this through the campaign. arguably, this is -- this is the worst week for the campaign. is taking that stand at this point meaningful? john: there are 27 days left. the chance that donald trump will say or do other things that you will have to deal with one where the other -- you have to figure out a strategy. alex: how is the republican post-debateding to donald trump? it is complicated. over the weekend, party officials broke with the nominee and said he should leave the ticket. some of them have had a change of heart. days ago, the third ranking called the things trump set about women more
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offensive than anything i have ever seen. today, he suggested he was still going to vote for trump, telling the rapid city journal, i am not voting for hillary clinton. deb fisher and bradley byrne also endorsed -- reverse their endorsements of trump. others are sticking to their guns. i was the latest to hurdle off the train, quitting the party in protest of the nominee. of all the republicans that have forknced trump, there is a in the road. stay, re-endorse? where do they go? john: there should be a fork in the road. you said these things. the tapes came out. you said, this is disgusting and
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disgraceful, which it is. i am not going to endorse him. he has to get off the ticket. what has happened in the last 72 you6 hours that makes think, that whole thing, not a big deal? profiles in are anti-courage and also stupidity. it is not just they are being cowardly and timid, they are looking like goons. alex: they are revealing themselves to be politically , clearly a craven political decision. the idea you are going to say this is so wrong and morally reprehensible and within the same week say, i am not
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rescinding my endorsement seems flummoxed. john: i think it is going to happen again. i think you are going to see more of this. we do not know yet. we saw him take a dip over the weekend. there is data suggesting he is starting to stabilize. but he is in the high 30's. starts to creep up, the party has been craving around him altogether. people will be like, i have to get back with this guy. trumpst among the myriad supporters put in an awkward position are evangelical christian conservatives forced to choose between voting for a republican candidate, seeming to condone his impious behavior. jr., like jerry falwell
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have stuck by the nominee so far. mike pence was an friendly territory today when he visited and reiterated his belief trump should be absolved. >> i was asked how i as a christian had moved beyond those moments. i was happy to explain that to the television host. believer, we are lives andlive godly also realize we fall short. it is not about condoning what is said and done. it is about believing in forgiveness. as christians, we are called to forgive. john: not all evangelicals agree. the executive editor of christianity today wrote a scathing editorial about trump, saying in purity and greed are
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an incredibly apt summary of donald trump's life to date. ofhas given no evidence piety. he takes every opportunity to demean the vulnerable and shows no curiosity or capacity to learn. he is the embodiment of what the bible calls a fool. alex: what do you really think? john: christianity today -- who knew? always, ons, almost goingon day -- is trump to have the normal turnout? evangelicall lose women the way he will lose women overall. there are some who will stick with him on the singular basis of the supreme court and their wadee to see roe v.
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overturned. that is enough of a singular issue that they will stomach the rest of the things christianity today points out. john: there was a republican congressman on television last night talking to chris hayes who was asked if the congress would abandon donald trump if he announced he enjoyed rape. the congressman basically said, i have to think that over. i find it puzzling. i understand christian conservatives care about the wade.e court and roe v. i find it amazing how blithely some of them hear the things trump has said and seemed to pretend he has genuinely sought forgiveness.
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i find it weird they do not seem to be struggling with the moral implications of backing this guy who has done so many things, according to their theology, that are simple. slex: coming up, wikileak strikes again. how the clinton campaign has been responding to these disclosures. ♪
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♪ alex: for the third day in a kileaks has posted more allegedly leaked e-mails from john podesta. one appears to be a message from jennifer palmieri making fun of conservative catholics.
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the clinton campaign is responding by calling the disclosures an attempt by russia to meddle in mecca and politics. labrovte -- sergei denied allegations. there is evidence roger stone has been giving the trump campaign advance notice of the e-mails. this is an act of political deflection and a legitimate argument. how is that working out? john: it is not doing anything to stem discussion of the e-mails. they are everywhere. it is an active deflection. they are saying, pay no attention to the substance of the e-mails. this is russia trying to meddle in the democratic process.
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we should be concerned that russia is trying to meddle in the democratic process. as a matter of stemming the tide of discussion, i do not think it works at all. it goes back to the highest standard of examination of stories to figure out whether they belong on television and print. a crime has been committed. some of these e-mails are dubious, insignificant. we do not know yet. he.ryone is being too blitt alex: climategate also and itted wikileaks, turns out that information was adulterated, casting skepticism on the facts around climate change. this is something that needs to be handled serious. john: there has been discussion nwald e-mail that
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was doctored to make it seem as though his words were coming out mouth.ey blumenthal's there are instances where the trump campaign is alleging collusion between the clinton campaign and that the -- the department of justice. were giving information about hearings that were going to take place. they were already public at the time. people have to be really careful about these things. i am not saying the clinton campaign is innocent of all charges. everyone has to examine these things with diligence about motive and facts. what these e-mails purport to be. when we come back, we will bring in a surprise guest. you may recognize him. ♪
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♪ john: i am here in new york city with alex wagner. florida,cohost is in where donald trump hosted a rally. mark halperin, how is the weather? mark: really sunny. too hot. and rainy. thank you. katie and i are at this trump event in florida. ands talk about wikileaks paul ryan. mentioned him earlier today. what was your sense of how the campaign wants to talk about
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this fight? >> it is a complicated relationship. i think that campaign wishes gop leadership was on board more. you heard jillian conway telling gop leadership to get behind trump, that they would do better if they were behind him. accusing paulp ryan of disloyalty. i get the sense he is going off script, talking about it on o'reilly. kellyanne conway is trying to mop up the mess. this does not seem like things he is reading off a teleprompter. seems like he cannot help himself. mark: you are hearing republicans who repudiated him over the weekend pulling back support. other republicans are saying privately they regret going out
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so far and repudiating him over the weekend. they are hearing from loud and angry constituents. you are only helping hillary clinton. >> there are other swing state operatives who say they are embarrassed by the campaign, that they wake up every morning and wonder if this is the day they should quit. there is a tug of war in the gop. makes you wonder where they will be when this is over. is the republican base enough for them to go forward and win elections in the future? that remains to be seen. because they have stood behind trump, gone back-and-forth, refused to get away from him after he trashed latinos, muslims, now women with that audio tape, there is a whole class of people disgusted by the back-and-forth. mark: if the next round of polls show a tightening of the race, i
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think you will see people's opportunity and him. let's talk about wikileaks. i was impressed that he is sporadically taking the best of it stuff and integrating into his speech in a way that people can understand. hillary clinton is part of a corrupt washington culture. thatnot recall him doing with other stuff. a little bit more specific and concrete. hasith wikileaks, he concrete evidence of the narrative he is pushing forward that hillary clinton is working behind the scenes in her own best interest and is so hungry for power that she will do anything, even though it is not her private persona. he got it more at this rally.
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sporadically that it does not allow the media to say, here is the message donald trump is going on. mark: it goes off script. >> it does not do anything to get him the attention in national media he is looking for because he is constantly doing and saying things that distract from the message. the crowdslked about being less uplifted and more angry than early on. john: it looks like we have lostjohn: mark and katy. maybe the thunderstorm was more severe than we thought. two were discussing things playing out. we have crossroads happening here. it is really disarray. before, it looks like there was a possibility the party would
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wholesale abandon trump. now you have very distinct factions trying to figure out, what am i supposed to do here? what are the risks? nobody really knows what the right strategy is. alex: you are talking about a candidate that has been undisciplined. given that the wikileaks came out friday, fortuitous timing, this could be the week where explanationh more about the precise content. instead, we are talking about infighting in the republican party. one wonders what the relationship between paul ryan and donald trump is, if he could have brought him back from the ledge if there had been a phone call. i do not know what the relationship is like. john: a lot of people speculate about whether trump is setting himself up to run a media empire after. the more pertinent question is,
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if you think about him talking about the election being stolen, blaming the media and the establishment, he has laid out a predicate for excuses. alex: the rigged system. john: all that stuff. it is about setting up an edifice of here is why i lost and why you should stay angry. thanks to mark and katy. that is it for tonight. thanks for watching. bloomberg markets is up next. ♪
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