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or go online to enroll in aarp medicarecomplete. [captioning made possible by bloomberg television] >> i'm john heilemann. >> and i'm mark halperin. with all due respect to jessica mendoza -- james comey, really? once again it's friday and once again as if on cue this presidential race has been rocked by another head-scratching plot twist. we are of course talk by the f.b.i.'s announcement today
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that it is revisiting its investigation into hillary clinton's use of a private email server. comey sent a letter to the f.b.i. -- to the senate saying that new emails that appear to be pertinent had come to light since he wrapped up the investigation. the new messages apparently came to light during a -- an investigation into husband of huma ab edin, anthony weaner. soon after the news broke a very gleeful donald trump stepped on the stage at his rally in new hampshire and he lit -- let it rip. >> we must not let her take her criminal scheme into the oval office. i have great respect for the act that the f.b.i. and
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department of justice are now willing to have the courage to right the horrible mistake that they made. this is bigger than watergate. this is bigger. in my opinion. john: conservatives have been going wild over this news from the moment that congressman chafettes tweeted that the f.b.i. was, quote, case reopened. rish -- rush limb baurks take it away. >> hot damn. this investigation will not conclude bit time of the election, folks. what, you think it will? no, it can't. this election cannot possibly conclude by a week from tuesday. do they come from wikileaks? has the wikileaks dump shown emails that comey didn't have? are there emails the f.b.i. didn't get shall didn't see, didn't find?
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where did these emails come from? the clinton campaign is going to be livid over there -- this. they thought they had this slamming dunked and put away. john: so what did hillary clinton have to say about the big break news today? hillary: let me say a word about the recent flooding here in cedar rapids. john: she actually didn't say anything about the f.b.i. or emails or james comey but john podesta did.
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john: so, mark, the details john podesta is stalk -- talking about are still emerging. we're in a state of limited information but real information. on a scavel one to godzilla plus, where does this rank politically? mark: for the next 24 hours minimum it's godzilla plus. p we need more facts. what we know is james comey, and i've been saying this since a he had his famous press statement last month, james comey is getting horrible advice. he is interfering in this election, he is responding to congress, who has no business ghoge the closing and opening of criminal probes. i don't understand what the guy is doing. it's a nightmare for the clinton campaign. i know why they're upset.
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but they shouldn't have put all their eggs in the comey beafments the chickens are coming home to roost. that's my poultry poetry. john: poultry poetry. i don't know about eggs in baskets. i will affirm and attest for the sake of the public record you have in all things been critical of comey throughout. there have been times i have agreed with you and times i have not. at this moment we actually have a problem with the f.b.i. director. i actually think whether you are a republican or a democrat looking on the merits you -- the one thing you would agree with is james comey needs to come out, stand in front of a podium and explain. mark: but he can't, because he can't talk about a criminal probe. it's ridiculous! john: for there to be accountability here, i believe
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he must clair fi what this is about. now, if it's true this is about anthony weiner, and this is obviously related to citizen sexual texting of an underage girl in north carolina. this -- if that is the investigation, it's a federal crime because it crossed state lines. but it could be politically significant in the sense that you know donald trump has been criticized -- critical of hillary clinton for trust huma ab edin. so it could be something or it could be nothing. ark: let's listen to nostradamus practically predicting anthony weiner's role in this campaign. oh, be -- we don't have that. donald trump talks all the time about how 4ir8 tr hillary clinton can't be trusted because donald trump -- because
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anthony weiner would have access to her emails. i don't know what comey is doing, but to drop this -- congress is interested in this. it's possible he sent them the letter that he made a deal with them, "i will keep you informed on all developments." that is not the way the justice department is supposed to work. i get that it's a case of great public interest but you are not supposed to be trying cases in public. john: if you think about the history here, he did what he did, said there could be no criminal prosecution of hillary clinton, didn't meet the standard. he has been criticized bit republicans like crazy. all of a sudden today trump is singing his praises. there is a suspicion at least of some element of c.y.a. with james comey but it is so
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irresponsible -- mark: 11 days out from election day? ok, now let's listen it donald trump foreshadowing the weiner matter. >> why are these people with great knowledge of the inner work osgood of our country and its security, why are they gesk hillary clinton briefings? because it's going to get revealed. her number one person, huma abedin, is married to anthony weiner who is a sleazeball and i pervert. and i'm not saying that -- i mean that's recorded history, right? i don't like huma going home at night and telling anthony weiner all of these secrets the >> what about the fact that huma, who knows every single thing about hillary, knows more about hillary than hillary knows and she's married to a pervert sleaze named anthony weiner who will send anything that he has out over twitter or any other form of getting it
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out. mark: so i'll say again is, the biggest issue to me is what does comey do next? i cannot believe he will be silent for 11 days. unfathomable. but the other thing is, when or what will cause this to no longer be the lead story in the news? >> john: there are reports that there are thousands upon thousands of emails for the f.b.i. to comb through. i don't know what would be worse, if it was resolved now before election day or not the either one of them is horrible. mark: i think comey could come out today and say oh, by the way, this has nothing to do with the investigation of hillary clinton. john: well, he could but it still has to do with the investigation of weiner and huma. the question i want to know most is why could that not have waited until after election
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day? mark: the only thing i can think of is he promised the senate judiciary committee to whom he wrote this letter that if there are new developments, i will get them to you. but there are so many investigations and ongoing probes the hill is interested in. they're not entitled to a minute-by-minute, timely play of any investigation. they're just not. it's not how the system works. john: i think you could have a debate about whether a promise to the judiciary committee if any were made would supersede -- i mean it's 11 days to election day. to drop anything at this point if you don't have a firm case to make is irresponsible. mark: all right. donald trump's campaign manager and an attorney, will join us later in the show. first we'll talk about the dramatic developments with two campaign reporters after these
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john: with us now to dissect the fallout at this hour from the f.b.i. director's incredibly vague and potentially really important letter about hillary clinton's email, actually not about hillary's email, about some email somewhere, casey hunt in the nation's capital and nbc news correspondent katie tur from cedar rapids. casey, the clinton campaign's mode reaction to this has been what? >> essentially to get very angry privately about the way
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this has happened, the timing of it. i think the thing that stuck out to me in his statement and has stuck out to me in conversations with democrats across the board are how much people are now willing to question f.b.i. director james comey. there was some grumbling privately over the summer when he held that press conference and had some pretty difficult thungs to say even though he ultimately cleared her of wrongdoing. so they were happy about that on the one hand, not so happy about the way he characterized it. this time i think they're really questioning in a way that's pretty significant the hn: and donald trump obviously demroth right now. what else is going nontrump world at this hour? katie: the campaign could not be more ecstatic about this news.
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it's a welcome distraction for them. there were questionable headlines this morning about how much money donald trump was going to be donating to his campaign and how commit the he was in this -- committed he was in this final stretch. noib talking about that any more. it's all about the investigation. donald trump is hammering this on the campaign trail. it was the first thing he talked about when he landed in new hampshire and we assume it will be the first thing he talksdz -- talks about when he goats maine and he -- gets to maine and he got a roaring reaction from the crowd. this is something that if it doesn't get more vortse into their tent, it will muddy the waters enough about those who are on the fence about hillary clinton not go to the polls, they hope. and i asked michael steele is that -- this the happiest day the g.o.p. has had and he said
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eric: it is. so whoil they are very ecstatic about this news internally and very publicly, there are questions about just how helpful it will be down the line the mark: kasie, we're all trying to adjust to this and figure out where it goes next. where is hillary for the next 48 hours and where might she be forced to respond this -- to this? kasie: well, she is continuing with the plan she had before. she's riding high. if you once covered the hillary clinton who didn't really get along with the press, it's a remarkable shift in attitude or was before this. as of now the plan is they're continuing, supposed to campaign in florida and ohio. there was a little bit of fanfare right before the plane
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was landing. jen was talking about how they were going go into arizona, a big push into a red state they now think they can win and then they landed and everybody realized that this is likely to be at least a piece of the conversation for the next 11 or almost 10 days now we have left ff -- before the lfpblgs the question is when does hillary clinton, or does she at all, take questions about this going forward. you have seen the aggressive posture john podesta took. i would imagine if she was going talk to reporters it would be similar. but this has a potential to change the tenor of the final days of this race. i'm still not convinced it's enough because so -- to a certain extent this was something the voters had already digested. her "honor -- honest and trustworthy" numbers are already there.
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so i'm not sure that it will fundamentally change it but you never know. mark: katie tur, is donald trump going to change his schedule or do anything different as far as you know? katie: we have no indication es going to do anything different. they are focusing on a handful of states, the ones they need states like neff, olorado. arizona. we'll find out if he now decides it's ok to stand in front of reporters and take questions. remember, he's been avoiding doing this ever since, well, for a while now but certainly since the allegations and accuseations from those female accusers surfaced.
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so we're going to find out if he feels comfortable going on and taking questions now given knees -- these new allegations. but again they really want to try and use this to their advantage, to try and cake -- take this for all that they can. he has just spent $10 million or said he's put $10 million into his campaign. we're told that's going to battleground tv ads. again, this is an enthusiasm battle between trump supporters hillary clinton supporters. they believe if they can turn out everyone from their base and get every single one to the polls while at the same time making hillary clinton less palatable, they have a chance. but this is going to get buried in today's news -- hillary and her surrogates have been having campaign events around the corner from polling stations, eally hammering the goat out
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of vote efforts. donald trump hasn't been doing that. you don't see those events where people are directing people -- them to where the polling place is. occasionally we see volunteers in these lime green t-shirts but usually just standing in the crowd, we rarely see them talking to the crowd, holding -- clipboard or anything like that. the clinton team has that advantage. donald trump isn't take advantage of that. they also talk about having all these new first-time voters in their camp but it doesn't seem like they're doing everything they can to make sure each and every one of them gets to the polls, knows how to get to the pollses and casts their ballot for donald trump. mark: is it true hillary clinton flies around on a plane with no wifi? kasie: it's not quite true.
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it's almost true. . wi-fi is in theory corporate go-go but it doesn't work as well as delta go-go, which i am sure you guys use all the time. they have serious pet peeves about putting more than one deb ise on the internet at any one time. you just never know if you are going to have internet when you take off. mark: thank you both. john: we're going stay on this story and talk to donald trump's campaign manager, kellyanne conway, in just a bit and to a never trump republican. we'll be right back with all of that. ♪
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john: we're joined now by republican strategist michael murphy. and with us from washington, d.c., the senior vice president for the group third way and a former deputy assistant to president bill clinton. mike, i'm going to start with you. you are you a -- a republican but not a trump lover. mike: that is true. john: more of a trump hater. what is your assess ment of the comey lettered to? -- letter today? mike: there is nothing bad about being connected with anthony weiner and an f.b.i. investigation. the campaign is going to demand -- this is murky. i think the clinton campaign should be careful about digging
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in in wars with the f.b.i. and if he was jeb bush he would go from 4 points to 5 off this. he still has all the trump problems. john: do you think calling for comey to come out and clarify is the right thing to do? mike: yes, i do. but some of the language about suspicious, 11 days. i would not go the route. mark: matt, should the clinton campaign try to change the subject? matt: they're not going to be able to change it for a couple days but i'm with you, and mark, #outrageous. they have a duty to the people who have already voted and millions are -- who are going to vote to demand answers.
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mark: but investigations don't work that way. they can't say we're going to have the answers on a schedule before election day. matt: right, but they can say what is and isn't in the scope of the investigation. what we know now is pure speculation. there are reporters with inside sources in the justice department, some say hts -- it's three emails, some say it's thousands. people are just running game round chasing their tails because comey gave almost no information. they can tell us a little bit about what they are looking for and looking amount jong if it's right that as the reports suggest this has nothing to do with hillary clough's personal server, if that's true, and this is obviously not a great story for the clinton campaign in any way but given the polarization of the country, how dug in the partisans are, do you think this is something
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that could actually move the needle? mike: if over the next 48 hours we learn more and it becomes more compartmentalized like that, it would be more of a tactical distraction than a big shakeup. this race needs an atomic shakeup for donald trump to get out of the cul-de-sac he's in right now. it's still very murky but i would be surprised if that -- this evolves that big in 72 hours. john: matt, mike, stick in your seats. more to do with this race when we come back. if you are watching in washington, d.c., you can listen on bloomberg radio. we'll be right back with these guys. guys. ♪
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john: we're back with republican stadgist matt bennett and mike murphy. matt, i'm going to ask you, one of the reality of this race has always been hillary clinton has an issue with trustworthiness. no republicans trust her at all and many democrats have problems with her honesty too, right. is there some way that the fact that she is widely distrusted 0 uld be a benefit, that is to say, so much of this is already priced into the stock when it comes to hillary clinton? matt: -- matt: yeah, and a degree with mike that this is probably not going to be a giant meteor crashing into the race because everyone already has their positions staked out when it comes to the email
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situation. democrats don't love it, they've accepted it and moved on. republicans are haters. i don't think there are a lot of people is a round saying if there was one more shoe to drop on the email scandal, i might. that's not how the works. mark: mike, now we're going into a weekend. mike: very bad. mark: if you are hillary clinton and demanding is this urting me, how soon could they get data? mike: she could get data in 24 but 48 hours is a better footprint. the democratic party tends to be a bit more panicky inside thn our guys, for whatever cultural reasonons. the other variable is trump was a dying campaign 24 hours ago
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the this is a huge shoot. hood is if they should him like a falcon and get out of the way, i doubt that will happen. he may do something that makes it worse for him in the next 24 hours. mark: matt, if you were going race, is has a horse would you ask questions about this topic? matt: oh, you would have to. using the words, reopened the investigation into hillary clinton's emails, you would spin it as horrible as you possibly could. whoil i agree with mike that you don't get great -- good data for 24 or 48 hours, there is going to be the messaging that could have a ripple effect into monday, tuesday, or wednesday. so we don't know how bad this
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is going to be until monday or tuesday next week the mark: one -- john: one thing i always like but, mike, you always talk about who is left out there. for those voters that now exist in that universe, donald trump, who are we just showed tape of calling anthony weiner a pervert and whatever, he has some issues making that argument -- mike: yes, there is some irony in trump going on offense over creepy sexual john: is that a way to make the argument effective for the universe of voters? mike: will this cause people who don't like hillary because they don't trust her to think less of her? probably. but will it change what those college educated voters particularly women think about
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trump, i think it's a big lift 11 days out. mark: so, matt, a lot of the coverage this week before today was framed bit abc news tracking poll which showed clinton with a 13-point lead. today it comes out, it's a four-point lead. we asked a colleague why. he said the difference is a slight rise in the nebraska -- number be republicans and republican leaning ippeds who are emerging as likely trump voters. what do you think about the lead going from 13 to 4 in that one poll? matt: two thicks -- things, approximate you think it's terrible but you think there is probably some outlier going on, on either the up side or the downside there. keep in mind obama was up by one on romney at this stage and
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ended up winning by a land slide. a four-point lead is still very sizeable in a national poll. i don't think they're pan ibing at all about that. i think they're concerned about what's gone on since then. mike: and we're getting to the silly season of the season -- polling where it's becoming incredibly hard. i think the truth is you can't get threw on the phone to half the quotas you need any more. so the tubes in the radar that wore all obsessed with are sparking at the end. election. it's hard to do. john: if hillary clinton gave a call tomorrow morning and said, matt, what shy do? broadly speaking can we afford if i moment to go into a prevent defense or a four corners offense, either way? or do we need to be out there
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aggressively making some kind of case to counter this information flow? matt: i think i would advise her to do basically what she did today. leave the wrangling over the comey thing to aides and go out and make her closing argument the way she was planning this tho -- to do it. because what is she going to say? there really isn't any information out there and i don't think she can go to the bumpling -- bunker here at all. she's got to be out and working aggressively. mark: mike, they obviously had a full schedule of things to do th celebrities, going to arizona -- should she basically continue her schedule and act leek nothing happened or address it? mike: i think the next 48 hours, she could say come on, f.b.i. his is the dominant and it's
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be dominant or look totally clueless the mark: what's the right line? mike: the right line is i want total trance pair incidencey, i want director comey to explain everything they're looking at. grab it, own it, repeat the old apology and pivot to the other stuff in 72 hours when the fire has burned out. own the media, get in that story. mark: i predict she won't talk about it, matt. matt: if she does at all, it will be in a tarmac or airplane availability. i can't imagine her addressing this in front of 7,000 people at a rally. that would be really weird. she might address it if she -- they think it would move the ball. i think they're probably going to keep up an aide response at least for now.
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jong i don't like to ever ask you to do this because it puts new -- you in the position of advising the trump campaign. mike: you've done it a couple times. you totally like it! john: there was a little discord, discontinuity, disonance between trump having trashed the f.b.i. for months and months and months and now singing their praises. is that a probably? should he go on and be just praising the f.b.i. right now? does it make sense for him to be saying something totally counter to what he said two week ago? mike: yes, there is a problem for that. the fundamental advice trump has needed on occasion for the past year has been shut the hell up. get out of the way and let the others comment on it. but he don't -- won't do that. he will overplay his hand, socked with adrenaline and --
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mark: joining us now from trump tower, donald trump's campaign manager, kellyanne conway, an attorney and close observer of this story. kelly, you are a good reporter and i lawyer. tell me what you think james comey's statement means. >> it means he was in a very tough spot, mark. if he had sat on this information and let the
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election go by and it was revealed later, people could cry foul, say it's not fair, we had a right to know. i think he did the right thing sending the letter out to the eight congressional chairman and we'll see where this leads. the clinton campaign is in a very tough spot. they criticized comey for having that press conference, then he went ant -- on to say she had been reckless and careless. everybody sees you in the shot in the screen when he's testifying, under oath about how she didn't have one serve erb, she had 13, de -- she destroyed emails, there were confidential emails and national security on there. we'll see where it all leads but i think it does play into people's reluctance about who hillary clinton is. they don't trust her and don't much like her and calling op
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comey today to be honest and transparent and have full disclosure, she's never practiced that herself. i think people will say how many times have my friends and neighborhoods been under f.b.i. investigation? if the answer is two, you are hillary clinton. it's just not normal. john: and you took a shot at podesta's statement in terms be being hypo critical -- >> no, i didn't ifert agreed didn't.m -- no, i i didn't. i agreed with him. john: so what would you like see director comey do? come forward in the next 24 hours? >> it's not for me to say what irector comey should do.
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the f.b.i. is not the r.n.c. it's not the trump carpe. it's not the vast right-wing conspiracy. it is the f.b.i. and it's not for me to say what he should do next. i appreciate the fact that given the information he had, he decided to go forward with it. why? because i'm an nern who loskeds this country and the principles of american democracy and believes that he should come forward when he has information hick that and not let 11 days to the election get in his way. that's an artificial time line. i also think what is going to happen is responsible people will be asking down-ballot democrats how they feel about this, just like down-ballot republicans are asked every ab or c about drumplet i heard mike murphy offering his advice about operation falcon. i'll take that under advisement. but when you look at undecided
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voters it's very clear that part of what makes them undecided at this point is they do want -- do not want to vote for hillary clinton. he question is, will this push them farther way from her? john: your candidate and campaign were free with criticism for director comey when he laid out his case against hillary cloirks which was damning, and thn declined to prosecute. you have said on multiple occasions he should have prosecuted her, indicted her. >> well, a majority of americans agreed. john: but i'm just asking again, would you like him to be fully transparent or not? >> john, that's an easy cun -- one. you are asking me to judge hours after this versus him having a press conference. we all know the 33,000 deleted
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weren't about yoga, girl talk and recipes with her daughter. she had been told what she could and could not do at the state department. the two aren't comparable you are asking me to do -- judge an investigation that just happened. we want him to do his job john: i'm not asking you to judge any investigation. just asking if you are for him being transparent? >> i'm asking him to do his job in a way that's consistent with what he finds in the evidence. i realize it's a very tough day for those who have already taken the champagne bottles off the shelf and uncorked them, calling no path. pre-f.b.i. went from mel kiperous 12 to minus four and i predict polls like that will continue to tighten. actually mr. trump is just going to continue to take his case directly to the voters and
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i'm sure secretary clinton will just ignore this issue as she did many others. john: and i will just correct the statement you made as have many others, comey did not have a press conference. >> got it. e certainly incurred the brath of people front, left and center. mark: do you know when he learned about this? >> he learned about it when the rest of us did. same thing for mr. trump. mark: i'm just wondering if you know what hays -- his initial reaction was to it? >> well, his nonperishable reaction was wow. you have been showing he came out with a statement pretty quickly because he was in new hampshire with a campaign event. he'll be in three states today, pretty typical for them -- him, with thousands at his rallies, not hundreds.
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but other cable stations are playing him talking about october 17 of this year and -- mark: we played shows those -- those as well. >> that's important. he's always ahead of the curve. even when people denounce him and get all high-minded about it. he's pretty much ahead of that. mark: will this be his message for the foreseeable future? >> no. not at all. he gave his first of three speeches today. he mentions it at the beginning then he's talking about repeal or replace obamacare, his first 100 days, and anyone who thinks he's not talking about that is not paying attention to his speeches, just taking a 45-second snippet. john: do you have a tv ad on this? specifically on this development? >> we've had scripts suggested
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to us today. our fundraising is off the charts again, our small dollar -- dollar fundraising and at moments like it this it spikes through the roof which they just told me is happening gench the $10 million check mr. trump gave to the campaign this morning, i witnessed it my elve -- myself and the tightening field, all leads to us taking it to the field, including the states that the clinton team thinks they have already wrapped up. we are going to win this but we were going to win it before the f.b.i.'s decision today. this will sow further doubt about hill clinton's fitness for office. you can't have national security briefings, access to brofings. john: i want to ask you to respond to a story josh green and sasha eisenberg wrote yesterday, quoting a senior
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major official from your campaign saying we have thry major voter suppression operations underway in the campaign and details what they are. is that true? >> no. that person misspoke. i think it's hillary clinton trying to suppress our voters. john: so you are saying there is no effort to suppress any kind of vote on the democratic side coming out of your campaign? >> what we're doing here is what the clinton campaign and all campaigns do, touch voters with different messages, customize what we know about them through our analyticals and sophisticated modeling systems. anybody who wants to vote can go and vote. we feel very arrival -- comfortable and confident about the returns we're seeing compared to where president obama and governor romney were
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mark: continuinging to track this break story regarding f.b.i. director comey's statement. just wondering what you thought of kellyanne conway's posture towards comey. john: i couldn't quite understand why she wouldn't understand the direct question i kept asking her. it's totally inconsistent to say they had an opinion about what comey should have done about who to express an indictment or not and --
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mark: i think her point was back then they had a lot of facts and now we don't john: but i wasn't asking her to rule on it. just in favor of transparency. lots of liberals, conservatives nd centrists are saying we need more. just as a matter of principle it seems to me they should be for him boeing trance pairment. neutral and transparent. mark: so it's late on a friday. we don't know where comey is. if comey stays silent this thing seems to be to be a wildfire all the waw to monday. john: it can't not. comey's behavior has been hard to parse but the pressure on him in the coming hours to say something more is going to be intense. that's the only thing i can predict. mark: incredible if he says something. and incredible if he says
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mark: before we go, democratic vice president candidate tim cain says the timing of the f.b.i. director's letter about the emails is, quote, very, very troubling. we're also this weekend on sunday night going to explore this topic as well as joe biden on the circus, our showtime documentary series. supped night at 8:00 easterntime. biden and the latef -- latest on this story next on bloomberg technology the until tomorrow, r monday, thanks for watching. ♪
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users bonding to a letter from fbi director james comey informing congress the e-mails will be reviewed to determine whether they contain classified information. in july, the fbi concluded a probe of clinton's use of a private server while secretary of state. we will have more on this story coming up. the united nations human rights office says it islamic state bulletins are using tens of thousands of iraqi civilians as human shields. the u.n. says it's occurring in where iraqiosul, and us-led coalition forces are attempting to drive militants from the city. russia am a witch is been accused of war crimes in syria, has been voted off the u.n. human rights council. in lost his regional sea to hungry and coloration -- in croatia. lost aetaker leader confidence vote on thursday. tomorrow's socialist party rivals have agreed to abstain in the second vote. that sul
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