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[captioning made possible by bloomberg television] john: i'm john heilemann. mark: and i'm mark halperin. with all due respect to james comey, really? ♪ once again it's friday and once again as if on cue this presidential race has been rocked by another m. night shyamanlan, head-scratching plot twist. we are of course talk by the f.b.i.'s announcement today that
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it is revisiting its investigation into hillary clinton's use of a private email server. comey sent a letter to the senate saying that new emails that appear to be pertinent had come to light since he wrapped up the investigation. the new messages apparently came to light during an investigation into husband of huma abedin, anthony weiner. soon after the news broke a very gleeful donald trump stepped on the stage at his rally in new hampshire and he let it rip. mr. trump: we must not let her take her criminal scheme into the oval office. i have great respect for the act that the f.b.i. and department of justice are now willing to have the courage to right the horrible mistake that they made. this is bigger than watergate.
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this is bigger. in my opinion. john: conservatives have been going wild over this news from the moment that congressman chaffetz tweeted that the f.b.i. was, quote, case reopened. rush limbaugh, take it away. >> hot damn. this investigation will not conclude by the time of the election, folks. what, you think it will? no, it can't. this election cannot possibly conclude by a week from tuesday. do they come from wikileaks? has the wikileaks dump shown emails that comey didn't have? are there emails the f.b.i. didn't get, didn't see, didn't find? where did these emails come from? the clinton campaign is going to be livid over this. they thought they had this
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slam dunked and put away. john: so what did hillary clinton have to say about the big break news today? mrs. clinton: let me say a word about the recent flooding here in cedar rapids. john: she actually didn't say anything about the f.b.i. or emails or james comey but john podesta did. john: so, mark, the details john podesta is talking about are still emerging. we're in a state of limited information but real
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information. on a scale of one to godzilla plus, where does this rank politically? mark: for the next 24 hours minimum it's godzilla plus. we need more facts. what we know is james comey, and i've been saying this since a he had his famous press statement last month, james comey is getting horrible advice. he is interfering in this election, he is responding to congress, who has no business knowing the closing and opening of criminal probes. i don't understand what the guy is doing. from a pure political point of view it's a nightmare for the , clinton campaign. i know why they're upset. but they shouldn't have put all their eggs in the comey basket. the chickens are coming home to roost. that is my poultry metaphor. john: poultry poetry. i don't know about eggs in
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baskets. i will affirm and attest for the sake of the public record you have been in all things been critical of comey throughout. there have been times i have agreed with you and times i have not. at this moment we actually have a problem with the f.b.i. director. i actually think whether you are a republican or a democrat looking on the merits, the one thing you would agree with is james comey needs to come out, stand in front of a podium and explain. mark: but he can't, because he can't talk about a criminal probe. it's ridiculous! john: for there to be accountability here, i believe he must clarify what this is about. now, if it's true this is about anthony weiner, and this is obviously related to citizen sexual texting of an underage girl in north carolina.
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if that is the investigation, it's a federal crime because it crossed state lines. but it could be politically significant in the sense that you know donald trump has been hillary clinton for trusting huma ab edin. so it could be something or it could be nothing. mark: let's listen to nostradamus practically predicting anthony weiner's role in this campaign. oh, we don't have that. donald trump talks all the time about how hillary clinton can't be trusted because anthony weiner would have access to her emails. i will say this -- i don't know what comey is doing, but to drop this -- congress is interested in this. it's possible he sent them the
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letter that he made a deal with them, "i will keep you informed on all developments." that is not the way the justice department is supposed to work. i get that it's a case of great public interest but you are not supposed to be trying cases in public. john: if you think about the history here, he did what he did, said there could be no criminal prosecution of hillary clinton, didn't meet the standard. he has been criticized bit republicans like crazy. all of a sudden today trump is singing his praises. there is a suspicion at least of some element of c.y.a. with james comey but it is so irresponsible -- mark: 11 days out from election day? ok, now let's listen donald trump foreshadowing the weiner matter.
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mr. trump: why are these people with great knowledge of the inner workings of our country and its security, why are they giving hillary clinton briefings? because it's going to get revealed. her number one person, huma abedin, is married to anthony weiner who is a sleazeball and i pervert. and i'm not saying that -- i mean that's recorded history, right? i don't like huma going home at night and telling anthony weiner all of these secrets. >> what about the fact that huma, who knows every single thing about hillary, knows more about hillary than hillary knows and she's married to a pervert sleaze named anthony weiner who will send anything that he has out over twitter or any other form of getting it out. mark: so i'll say again is, the biggest issue to me is what does comey do next? i cannot believe he will be silent for 11 days. unfathomable. but the other thing is, when or
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what will cause this to no longer be the lead story in the news? john: there are reports that there are thousands upon thousands of emails for the f.b.i. to comb through. the idea that this would be resolved before election day -- i don't know what would be worse, if it was resolved now before election day or not the either one of them is horrible. mark: i think comey could come out today and say oh, by the way, this has nothing to do with the investigation of hillary clinton. john: well, he could but it still has to do with the investigation of weiner and huma. the question i want to know most is why could that not have waited until after election day? mark: the only thing i can think of is he promised the senate judiciary committee to whom he wrote this letter that if there are new developments, i will get them to you.
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but why he would make such a promise is beyond me. but there are so many investigations and ongoing probes the hill is interested in. they're not entitled to a minute-by-minute, timely play of any investigation. they're just not. it's not how the system works. john: i think you could have a debate about whether a promise to the judiciary committee if any were made would supersede -- i mean it's 11 days to election day. to drop anything at this point if you don't have a firm case to make is irresponsible. mark: all right. donald trump's campaign manager and an attorney, will join us later in the show. first we'll talk about the dramatic developments with two campaign reporters after these words from our sponsors. ♪
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♪ john: with us now to dissect the fallout at this hour from the f.b.i. director's incredibly vague and potentially really important letter about hillary clinton's email, actually not about hillary's email, about some email somewhere, casey hunt in the nation's capital and nbc news correspondent katy tur from cedar rapids. casey, the clinton campaign's reaction to this has been what? >> essentially to get very angry privately about the way this has happened, the timing of it. i think the thing that stuck out to me in his statement and has stuck out to me in conversations with democrats across the board
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is how much people are now willing to question f.b.i. director james comey. there was some grumbling privately over the summer when he held that press conference and had some pretty difficult things to say even though he ultimately cleared her of wrongdoing. so they were happy about that on the one hand, not so happy about the way he characterized it. this time i think they're really questioning in a way that's pretty significant. john: and donald trump obviously gloating right now. what else is going on in trump world at this hour? katy: the campaign could not be more ecstatic about this news. it's a welcome distraction for them. there were questionable headlines this morning about how much money donald trump was
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going to be donating to his campaign and how committed he was in this final stretch. nobody talking about that any more. it's all about the investigation. donald trump is hammering this on the campaign trail. it was the first thing he talked about when he landed in new hampshire and we assume it will be the first thing he talks about when he gets to maine and he got a roaring reaction from the crowd. this is something that if it doesn't get more voters into their tent, it will muddy the waters enough to make those who are on the fence about hillary clinton not go to the polls, they hope. and i asked michael steele is this the happiest day the g.o.p. has had in a while, and he said yes, it is. so while they are very ecstatic about this news internally and very publicly, there are questions about just how helpful it will be down the line the
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mark: kasie, we're all trying to adjust to this and figure out where it goes next. where is hillary for the next 48 hours and where might she be forced to respond to this? kasie: well, she is continuing with the plan she had before. she's riding high. the level of competence you have seen her on the campaign trail as she interacts with the reporters that cover her -- if you once covered the hillary clinton who didn't really get along with the press, it's a remarkable shift in attitude or was before this. as of now the plan is they're continuing, supposed to campaign in florida and ohio. there was a little bit of fanfare right before the plane was landing. jen was talking about how they were going go into arizona, a big push into a red state they now think they can win and then they landed and everybody realized that this is likely to be at least a piece of the
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conversation for the next 11 or almost 10 days now we have left of this election. the question is when does hillary clinton, or does she at all, take questions about this going forward. you have seen the aggressive posture john podesta took. i would imagine if she was going talk to reporters it would be similar. but this has a potential to change the tenor of the final days of this race. i'm still not convinced it's enough because to a certain extent this was something the voters had already digested. her "honest and trustworthy" numbers are already there. so i'm not sure that it will fundamentally change it but you never know. mark: katy tur, is donald trump going to change his schedule or do anything different as far as you know? katy: we have no indication he
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is going to do anything different. he will be in iowa after he gets done with maine. they are focusing on a handful of states, the ones they need to win, states like neff, colorado. arizona. we'll find out if he now decides it's ok to stand in front of reporters and take questions. remember, he's been avoiding doing this ever since, well, for a while now but certainly since the allegations and accusations from those female accusers surfaced. so we're going to find out if he feels comfortable going on and
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taking questions now given these new allegations. but again they really want to try and use this to their advantage, to try and take this for all that they can. he has just spent $10 million or said he's put $10 million into his campaign. we're told that's going to battleground tv ads. again, this is an enthusiasm battle between trump supporters and hillary clinton supporters. they believe if they can turn out everyone from their base and get every single one to the polls while at the same time making hillary clinton less palatable, they have a chance. but this is going to get buried in today's news -- hillary and her surrogates have been having campaign events around the corner from polling stations, really hammering the get out the vote early efforts. donald trump hasn't been doing that. you don't see those events where people are directing people -- them to where the polling place is.
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occasionally we see volunteers in these lime green t-shirts but usually just standing in the crowd, we rarely see them talking to the crowd, or holding a clipboard or anything like that. the clinton team has that advantage. donald trump isn't take advantage of that. they also talk about having all these new first-time voters in their camp but it doesn't seem like they're doing everything they can to make sure each and every one of them gets to the polls, knows how to get to the polls and casts their ballot for donald trump. mark: is it true hillary clinton flies around on a plane with no wifi? kasie: it's not quite true. it's almost true. wi-fi is in theory corporate go-go but it doesn't work as well as delta go-go, which i am sure you guys use all the time.
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they have serious pet peeves about putting more than one device on the internet at any one time. you just never know if you are going to have internet when you take off. mark: thank you both. john: we're going stay on this story and talk to donald trump's campaign manager, kellyanne conway, in just a bit and to a never trump republican. we'll be right back with all of that. ♪
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♪ john: we're joined now by republican strategist michael murphy. and with us from washington, d.c., the senior vice president for the group third way and a former deputy assistant to president bill clinton.
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matt bennett. mike, i'm going to start with you. you are a republican but not a trump lover. mike: that is true. john: more of a trump hater. so what is your assessment of the comey letter today? mike: there is nothing bad about being connected with anthony weiner and an f.b.i. investigation. it will grab everything for a couple of days. the campaign is going to demand that this not be murky. i think the clinton campaign should be careful about digging in in wars with the f.b.i. and if he was jeb bush he would go from 4 points to 5 off this. he still has all the trump problems. john: do you think calling for comey to come out and clarify is
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the right thing to do? mike: yes, i do. but some of the language about suspicious, 11 days. i would not go the route. mark: matt, should the clinton campaign try to change the subject? matt: they're not going to be able to change it for a couple days but i'm with you, and mark, #outrageous. they have a duty to the people who have already voted and millions who are going to vote to demand answers. mark: but investigations don't work that way. it takes time. they can't say we're going to have the answers on a schedule before election day. matt: right, but they can say what is and isn't in the scope of the investigation. what we know now is pure speculation. there are reporters with inside
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sources in the justice department, some say it's three emails, some say it's thousands. people are just running game round chasing their tails because comey gave almost no information. he cannot be definitive about what will come of the investigation, you are right. but they can tell us a little , bit about what they are looking for and looking amount jong if it's right that as the reports suggest this has nothing to do with hillary clough's -- hillary clinton's personal server, if that's true, and this is obviously not a great story for the clinton campaign in any way but given the polarization of the country, how dug in the partisans are, do you think this is something that could actually move the needle? in terms of how the race is unfolding? mike: if over the next 48 hours we learn more and it becomes more compartmentalized like that, it would be more of a tactical distraction than a big shakeup. the issue is -- this race needs
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an atomic shakeup for donald trump to get out of the cul-de-sac he's in right now. it cannot rule it out now because it is still very murky but i would be surprised if this , evolves that big in 72 hours. john: matt, mike, stick in your seats. hold on. we will talk to more about this story and other things having to do with this race when we come back. if you are watching in washington, d.c., you can listen on bloomberg radio. we'll be right back with these guys. ♪
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♪ john: we're back with republican strategist mike murphy and matt
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bennett. matt, i'm going to ask you, one of the realities of this race has always been hillary clinton has an issue with trustworthiness. no republicans trust her at all and many democrats have problems honesty and trustworthiness right. , is there some way that the fact that she is widely distrusted could be a benefit, which is to say so much of this , is already priced into the stock when it comes to hillary clinton? matt: yeah, and i agree with mike that this is probably not going to be a giant meteor crashing into the race because everyone already has their positions staked out when it comes to the email situation. democrats have accepted it. they don't love it. they've accepted it and moved on. republicans are haters. i don't think there are a lot of people is a round saying if there was one more shoe to drop
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on the e-mail scandal, that trump.ush me towards fro that's not how the works. mark: mike, now we're going into a weekend. mike: very bad. mark: if you are hillary clinton and demanding to know if this hurting me, how soon could they get data? mike: she could get data in 24 but 48 hours is a better , footprint. it takes a while to find that , but they are going to feel it. the democratic party tends to be a bit more panicky inside their world than our guys, for whatever cultural reasons. the other variable is trump was a dying campaign 24 hours ago. this is a huge shot of adrenaline to them. my view is if they should hood him like a falcon and get out of the way of the sink, but i doubt that will happen. he may do something that makes it worse for him in the next 24
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hours. this is the beginning of it. mark: matt, if you were going into this all right now, besides the horse race, would you ask questions about this topic? matt: oh, you would have to. you would say that if you learn the fbi using the words, , reopened the investigation into hillary clinton's emails, you would spin it as horrible as you possibly could. that is what the republicans are going to be doing. with mike that you don't get good data for 24 or 48 hours, there is going to be the messaging that could have a ripple effect into monday, tuesday, wednesday. so we don't know how bad this is going to be until monday or tuesday next week. john: one thing i always like but, mike, you always talk about who is left out there. what is the universe of potential voters out there still
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making a decision of whether they will stay home or go to the polls. for those voters that now exist in that universe, donald trump, who are we just showed tape of calling anthony weiner a pervert and whatever, he has some issues making that kind of argument. going on therony offense on creepy, sexual behavior. is that a way to make the argument effective for the universe of voters? mike: will this cause people who don't like hillary because they can't trust her to think less of her? probably. but will it change what those college-educated caucasian voters think about donald trump, particularly women i think it's , a big lift 11 days out. mark: so, matt, a lot of the coverage this week before today was framed by the abc news
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tracking poll which showed clinton with a 13-point lead. today the tracking poll comes out and it is a four-point lead. i asked my colleague why that is. he said the difference is a slight rise in the share of republicans and republican leaning independents who are emerging as likely trump voters. if you are hillary clinton or john podesta do you think about , the lead going from 13 to 4 in that one poll? matt: two things, you think it's terrible, but you also think there is probably some outlier on the up side or the downside there. keep in mind obama was up by one at this stage in the race against romney and ended up winning by a land slide. a four-point lead is still very sizeable in a national poll. i don't think they're panicking at all about that. they arek
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significantly concerned about what's gone on since then. mike: and we're getting to the silly season where the mechanics of traditional polling have become incredibly hard. what the clinton campaign is doing is more of a crm relationship. the truth is that you can't get through on the phone to half the quotas you need any more. so the tubes in the radar that wore all obsessed with are sparking at the end of the election. it's hard to do. john: if hillary clinton gave a call tomorrow morning and said, matt, what should i do? broadly speaking can we afford , if i moment to go into a prevent defense or a four corners offense, either way? or do we need to be out there aggressively making some kind of case to counter this information flow? matt: i think i would advise her to do basically what she did today, leave the wrangling over the comey thing to aides and go out and make her closing
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argument the way she was planning to do it. i think it was smart of her not to comment in the clip you showed about this, because what is she going to say? there really isn't any information out there and i , don't think she can go to the bunker here at all. she's got to be out and working aggressively. mark: mike, they obviously had a full schedule of things to do with celebrities, going to arizona. should they basically continue likechedule and act nothing is going on or address it? mike: i think the next 48 hours, she could say come on, f.b.i. this is the dominant story now. either the part of it or look totally clueless. mark: what's the right line? i want total transparency.
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i want director coming to explain exactly what they're looking at. grab it, own it, repeat the old apology and pivot to the other , stuff in 72 hours once the fire has burned out. own the media, get in that story. mark: i predict she won't talk about it, matt. matt: i think you're right. that is my prediction too. if she does at all, it will be in a tarmac or airplane availability. i can't imagine her addressing this in front of 7,000 people at a rally. that would be really weird. she might address it if she feels it might move the ball. i think they might feel pretty good about the podesta statement. i think they're probably going to keep up an aide response at least for now. john: i don't like to ever ask you to do this because i know it makes you uncomfortable when i put you in the position of advising the trump campaign. mike: you've done it a couple times. you totally like it!
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john: there was a little discord, discontinuity, dissonance between trump having trashed the f.b.i. for months and months and months and now singing their praises. is that dissonance a problem? should he go on and be just praising the f.b.i. right now? does that make sense for him to be saying something totally counter to what he said two week ago? mike: yes, there is a problem for that. the fundamental piece of advice that trump has needed for year is on occasion shut the hell up. , get out of the way and let the thousand knives work for 48 hours, but he won't do that. instead, he will overplay his hand, soaked with adrenaline. john: it's hard to get hood on that falcon. a it is hard because it is crazy falcon. john: we'll talk a little bit about joe biden's crazy week when we come back. ♪
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♪ mark: joining us now from trump tower, donald trump's campaign manager, kellyanne conway, an attorney and close observer of this story. you are a good reporter and a lawyer. tell me what you think james comey's statement means. >> it means he was in a very tough spot, mark. if he had sat on this information and let the election go by and it was revealed later, people would cry foul, say it's not fair, we had a right to know. i think he did the right thing by putting up a statement and sending the letter to the eight
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congressional chairman and we'll , see where this leads. the clinton campaign is in a very tough spot. they criticized comey for having that press conference, even though they agreed with his results, in choosing not to indict her, but then he went on to say she had been reckless and careless. everybody sees you in the shot in the screen when he's testifying, under oath about how she didn't have one server, she had 13, she destroyed emails, there were confidential emails on their. there was national security information on there. this is just the next chapter and all of that. we'll see where it all leads but i think it does play into people's reluctance about who hillary clinton is. they don't trust her and don't much like her, and this does not help for somebody calling on comey today to be honest and transparent and have full disclosure and immediacy. she has never practiced that herself, particularly when it comes to the first
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investigation. i think people will say how many times have my friends and neighborhoods been under f.b.i. investigation? if the answer is two, you are neighbor is hillary clinton. it's just not normal. john: earlier today on your twitter feed you took a shot at , podesta's statement in terms of being hypocritical. >> no, i didn't. i agreed with him. john: ok. so that is my question. what would you like to see director tomie do now? would you like to see him come forward in the next 24 hours and buying what all this is about? >> i have a sense of humor on twitter and elsewhere. to,ver, and i will continue it's not for me to say what director comey should do. the f.b.i. is not the r.n.c. it is a tough day for clinton and their supporters in the media. it is not the trump campaign. it's not the vast right-wing conspiracy. it is the f.b.i. and it's not for me to say what he should do next.
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i appreciate the fact that given the information he had, he decided to go forward with it. why do i appreciate that fact? because i am an american who loves this country and the principles of them are and believes that he should come forward when he has information like that and not let the election get in his way. that's an artificial time line. i also think what is going to happen is responsible people will be asking down-ballot democrats how they feel about this, just like down-ballot republicans are asked every a, b or c about donald trump. it is an important issue up and down the democratic party. i heard mike murphy offering his advice about operation falcon. i'll take that under advisement. but in addition to that when you , look at undecided voters it's , very clear that part of what makes them undecided at this point is they do not want to vote for hillary clinton. they have already made that decision. the question is will this push , them farther way from her? john: your candidate and
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your campaign were free with criticism for director comey when he laid out his case against hillary clilnton, which was damning, and then declined to prosecute. you guys have said on multiple occasions he should have on the basis of the evidence prosecuted her, indicted her. >> well, a majority of americans agreed. john: but in this case you are saying i can't say what the director should do. but i'm just asking again, would you like him to be fully transparent or not? >> john, that's an easy one. you are asking me to judge hours after learning about this separate investigation about comey can do versus him having a press conference. we all know the 33,000 deleted weren't about yoga, girl talk and recipes with her daughter. she had been told what she could , and could not do at the state department. the two aren't comparable. you are asking me to judge an investigation that just happened.
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you know what i want him to do? we want him to do his job. john: i'm not asking you to judge any investigation. i am just asking if you are for him being transparent? am for him doing his job and having a result that's consistent with what he finds in the evidence. i realize it's a very tough day for those who have already taken the champagne bottles off the shelf and uncorked them, calling no path left, the race is over, the polls are disasters. the polls are not disasters. pre-f.b.i, went from minus 12 to minus four, and i predict polls like that will continue to tighten. we already see it in our internal polling. mr. trump is just going to continue to take his case directly to the voters and i'm sure secretary clinton will just ignore this issue as she did so many others. comey did not
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have a press conference. >> got it. he certainly incurred the wrath of people front, left and center. mark: do you know when he learned about this? >> he learned about it when the rest of us did. it sounds like the white house and the clinton campaign were in the same boat. i read about it in media reports. same thing for mr. trump. mark: i'm just wondering if you know what his initial reaction was to it? >> well, his initial reaction was, wow. you have been showing he came out with a statement pretty quickly because he was in new hampshire with a campaign event. he'll be in three states today, pretty typical for him, with thousands at his rallies, not hundreds and hundreds. , hethe fact is that for him has been way ahead of this for a long time. other cable stations are playing him talking about october 17 of this year, july 27. mark: we played those as well. >> that's important. he's always ahead of the curve. even when people denounce him and get all high-minded about
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it. he is pretty much ahead of the curve. mark: will this be his message from him in a campaign for the foreseeable future? >> no. not at all. he just gave his first of three speeches today. he mentioned it at the beginning speechgave an entire about repealing or replacing obamacare, his first 100 days, is reform package, so anyone who thinks he's not talking about that is not paying attention to his speeches, just taking a 45-second snippet. john: do you have a tv ad on this? >> we have lots of tv ads about corruption. mark: specifically on this development? >> we've had scripts suggested to us today. our fundraising is off the charts yet again. fundraising isr off the charts and at moments , like it this it spikes through the roof which they just told me is happening again. the $10 million check mr. trump
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gave to his campaign this morning, i witnessed it myself, and the tightening polls all , leads to us taking it to the field, including the states that the clinton team thinks they already have wrapped up. we are going to win this but we were going to win it before the f.b.i.'s decision today. this will sow further doubt on related to us at all about hillary clinton's fitness for office. you can't have national security briefings. you can have access to information if you have already proven that you put that it risked. unfit and unqualified to the president. john: i want to ask you to respond to a story josh green and sasha eisenberg wrote yesterday, quoting a senior major official from your campaign saying, "we have three major voter suppression operations underway" in the campaign and details what they are. is that true?
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>> no. that person misspoke. i think it's hillary clinton trying to suppress our voters. no, that is not true. john: those details go into a fair amount of detail, so you are saying there is no effort to suppress any kind of vote on the democratic side coming out of your campaign? >> what we're doing here is what the clinton campaign and all campaigns do, touch voters with different messages, customize what we know about them through analytically and through our sophisticated modeling systems. anybody who wants to vote can go and vote and should go. we feel very comfortable and confident about the returns we're seeing compared to where president obama and governor romney were at this exact date in 2012. we think those early investments in early absentee balloting are really paying off. john: kellyanne conway, thank you for coming on the show. timepreciate you making
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for us and what is a very busy moment for you, no doubt. we will be right back. ♪
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♪ mark: continuinging to track this breaking story regarding f.b.i. director comey's statement. i am just wondering what you thought of kellyanne conway's posture towards comey. john: i couldn't quite understand why she would not answer the direct question i kept asking her. it's totally inconsistent to say they had an opinion about what comey should have done about who on bringing an indictment or not -- mark: i think her point was back then they had a lot of facts and now we don't. john: i wasn't asking her to rule on it. just in favor of transparency. lots of liberals, conservatives
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and centrists are saying we need more transparency. just as a matter of principle it seems to me they should be for him being transparent, neutrally transparent. mark: so it's late on a friday. fbi is shut down for the weekend. john: we don't know where comey is. mark: if comey stays silent, this thing seems to be to be a wildfire all the way through to monday. john: it can't not. comey's behavior has been hard to parse but the pressure on him , in the coming hours to say something more is going to be intense. that's the only thing i can predict. mark: incredible if he says something. and incredible if he says nothing. mark: we'll be back after this. ♪
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♪ before we go, democratic vice president candidate tim kaine says the timing of the "very, very troubling." we are also this weekend on sunday night going to explore this topic as well as joe biden on the circus, our showtime documentary series, sunday night at 8:00 eastern time. biden and the latest on this story next on "bloomberg technology." we will have an update on this story. until tomorrow, or monday, thanks for watching. ♪ [ emily kaldwin ] when you stole the throne, witch,
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