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david: welcome to "bloomberg businessweek." i am david gura. coming to you from inside the magazine's headquarters in new york. we will take you inside the donald trump presidential campaign. also, twitter has one revenue stream, the company's firehose. we will tell you about that. professional mermaids, yes, mermaids, taking to their business seriously. all of that on "bloomberg businessweek." ♪ david: we are here to talk about the cover story on donald trump with ellen pollock. editor-in-chief. we are here to talk about donald
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trump. my first takeaway is that donald trump is not the man sending off a lot of the tweets he fires off. maybe the ones in the middle of the night, but not all the time. ellen: not all the time. brad, who runs the data operations for the organization, for the trump company, i mean organization, campaign. he is doing some of the tweeting. mr. trump does some himself. but while he is on stage, if you have been wondering who mans the twitter buttons, it is brad. we introduce you to him in this story. carol: he is a big deal in the trump campaign, how did he get there? it is not the usual route. this is not a political strategist type. ellen: no, he is not a career politician. that is one of the interesting things about the story, it takes you behind the scenes. he works in san antonio, and somehow he was hired to do websites for the trump
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organization -- david: on the street. -- on the cheap. for the trump-related parities. ellen: on the cheap. and for some of the trump related charities. when it came to mount the campaign, he was hired to do the campaign website for $1500. carol: unbelievable. ellen: it was not expensive. you cannot do that in new york or washington, let's put it that way. over time, he's worked with jared kircher in stephen bannon for a data operation. david: talk about that operations. yes, it exists within the donald trump campaign and that the work with the republican national committee. how well is the working out? what does the apparatus look like? what does the donald trump digital apparatus look like? ellen: it is principally sort of the commander, jared kushner -- his son-in-law, he is married to ivanka. and he comes from a real estate family and owns "the new york observer," that everybody reads. the new york little newspaper.
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he was the one who decided we have to build this up. once the primaries were over. and so they used some of the rnc data that reince priebus built up and worked on after the romney defeat. so they used some of that data. they hired outside providers, and they kind of combined it with their own analytics that they were developing on their own to really be able to target their likely voters. hence, it is called the alamo project. carol: you said it is not like they were trying to get a lot of broad information out, they really did target their viewers -- not viewers but supporters, if you will. he built up a really big base that he ultimately owns, donald trump. ellen: he will own this data. it is a huge number of names, it is millions and millions of names.
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it could be used for any number of things. it could be used if he decided to try to run in 2020, if he wanted to become the maker of a new party or a new movement, or a new network. i know in sums each he said he was not interested in a tv network, but there's so much talk about it. and look, he is doing his own independent media. the campaign has been broadcasting on facebook. carol: it is not like he likes tv or anything. [laughter] ellen: no, it is not like he doesn't know anything about it. this data could be used for commercial purposes. it could be a media empire or breitbart empire. it is a little unclear. it has huge commercial potential and huge political potential. david: your reporters talk to stephen bannon, which is a rare thing because he is not talking. what is your biggest take away? from what he had to say about
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the way this is structured in the trump campaign? ellen: i think there are two. one obvious take away, most people think the campaign is his public thing. trump's speeches and his tweets, but they are more sophisticated then they lead on an much more professional than they let on. i do not think they are doing anything super cutting-edge, but they are on it. while they know it is unlikely they will win, they still have not completely given up. so that is one thing. the other is they could commercialize it. the other thing they talked about was voter suppression. a and that they are doing research and figuring out what the votes they want to stop. who did they want to keep from coming to the polls? it is shown women, it is african-americans among others. and so they are putting out ads and putting out messages like the bill clinton-women issue to
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try and suppress those votes. that you do not often see, and that is not maybe the major point of our story, but it jumped out at me. carol: great story. a lot more strategy dan we realized. we talked with creative director rob vargas about how he created the cover. robert: we had a pretty good shoot of the command center and the way people who work for the campaign describes it, a very sophisticated, technologically advanced. we will sort of leave it up to the readers what they see the photos, it is like, guys sitting around laptops, a couple of tv screens -- david: cold coffee. robert: yeah. so maybe we thought it would not necessarily be the way to go on the cover. but we kind of wanted to reference the fact it is, trump is this huge personality but it feels like a bit of a scrappy operation. we went with the conceptual idea, which was an old looking
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usb drive and post it note and just labeling it "trump's plan b." david: how hard was it find? a thumb drive that that that image of weight you wanted to do? robert: some some drives are really hard -- thumb drives are really cool these days. it was harder to get. i had to send an e-mail throughout the whole office. david: trump's plan b, how did you come up with the phrase, first of all, and how did it come to be on the cover? robert: we wanted to get the fact that all of this information and data they have is for what they are planning to do, whether or not he wins or loses. it is not clear what it is, but they have a plan. plan b references in the data is in the usb drive and will implement after the election. david: there is an international edition. the cover story is a piece on
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twitter. how did you decide to illustrate that the way in which you did? a giant firehose on the cover. robert: we took it directly from the story. twitter refers to all of the information gathered by their users as a firehose. we went literally. it is like the first picture of a firehose we found and just sort of formatted it as a tweet. david: you have a firehose, you want to have a firehose. how do you decide to feature it so it is not taking over the whole cover? say it is there in the middle and there is text that is small. robert: we wanted to make it look like a tweet. david: within the character limits? robert: yeah. we kept it very simple. we made sure the photograph was not too professionally shot, it feels like a found photograph. david: rob, thank you. carol massar spoke with a reporter who reported that these, ben elgin. carol: when i think about twitter, i love it. most people in the media love it it. i feel like it is the place you
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can have free speech. that has kind of been the nation of it. fair to say? ben: absolutely. part of the mission statement and we of seeing it play out. places like the middle east, arab springs where the traditional media was regulated. twitter allows people to discuss themselves freely, organize, and it has given people more of a voice than they otherwise would have had. carol: we talk about arab springs and probably would not have happened without social media. twitter, they put out a lot of information and that information, those tweets can be monitored, and they are. ben: absolutely. there is a sort of a cottage industry that has sprung up to monitor and tap into social media data. twitter is the biggest source of this. these companies that do the
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monitoring, they gather it up, and they sort of slice it and dice it and put on their own technology. anybody willing to pay for it can tap into this vast knowledge about people. carol: twitter is doing this. tell us what it is called. the firehose? ben: that is what they call their huge data stream. every day, you have got 500 million tweets. it is just an immense amount of data from all over the world. twitter is making a business out of selling that data. it is a fast-growing part of their business. you have the firehose, which is the full stream of data. and then they sell various levels of it. ok, some people only want what they call the decahose, which is only one out of 10. end if you don't want to pay, you can still get about one out of every 100 week. -- every 100 tweets. there are various levels. carol: it is interesting.
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you think of twitter as a place you can put things out there and be very transparent. it is a business going on at where they are selling too, if you will. from what i've read, it is a growing business. a profitable business. ben: yeah. it is hard to say profitable, but it is growing. it is growing at twice the pace of the rest of twitter's business. obviously, twitter right now is struggling a bit. they have layoffs coming up. they have not reached profitability. any glimpse of hope is important. one of those things is this data sales business and analysts and investors are very keen on this. might this be a way for them to clear hurdles and become a profitable business? david: macau steals pages from las vegas' playbooks. and how china has calmed global fears of chinese takeovers. ♪
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♪ david: welcome back to "bloomberg businessweek." i am david gura. macau takes some inspiration from las vegas. carol massar spoke with our bloomberg business bureau chief, chris palmeri. chris: you remember las vegas in the 1990's, knocking get out of the park with these projects. we are seeing a similar thing in macau. we have a ferris wheel built into the side of a casino. or a replica of the eiffel tower. or even a lake with synchronized fountains of a celine dion song. las vegas is being replicated in macau. david: you had a lot of wealthy
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chinese going to play back -- play baccarat. then a corruption breakdown, what happened in macau after that? chris: huge. it was a place for these high rollers to spend incredible amounts of money on baccarat. and as the chinese government cracked down, those people disappeared. the last thing they wanted was more conspicuous consumption. the whole city had to adjust to a new type of customer. they are sure to attract a middle crowd. still a well-to-do person. maybe even bring their family. instead of the gucci and prada, they have h&m. they are planning events for the kids and doing historical tours. it is a different kind of customer. carol: is it working? that is a big change from what it was. is it drumming up revenue? is it bringing more families to macau? more gamblers? more tourists? chris: we have to wait and see.
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in the last two months, gambling has been up after a more than two-year slump. there seems to be more visitors coming, but it is not a huge, huge increase. and so this may be a slow build. david: you mentioned steve wynn. sheldon adelson is involved in macau as well. they are not new to the place. they have been there before. are they kind of pioneering this transition? is this something they thought about doing before the crackdown? chris: i can remember in 2002 when sheldon adelson first started talking about macau. and he said, you know, we're going to build this strip on land that was reclaimed from the ocean. they had to fill it all in. i thought, "this is crazy." he spent $12 billion building these properties. but he has been way ahead of the curve. he has a sheraton hotel and a holiday in. he is trying to appeal to the mass-market customer they think will come from all over asia,
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not just china. carol: talk about the chinese government. not just their approval, help, or assistance. chinese growth still enviable by probably most of the world but it is slowing down. i am just curious what role the chinese government is playing in all of this. chris: a big role. if you look at what happened to las vegas, it happened over 40 years. it was organic growth because casinos were spreading over the u.s., and las vegas had to think of a new strategy. in macau, it is opposite. the government said, "we want non-gambling tourists." you need to create more non-gambling of amenities and they have 10 limiting the number of gambling tables quite a bit. the new casinos have 100 baccarat tables. when you asked them how much they wanted, 400 or 500 when they started building these places, so it is a real government mandate. david: sticking with china, how some chinese firms are calming
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fears about the country's global buying spree. carol massar and i spoke with matt campbell. matt: we see a big swell in m&a. really all over the the place. china is a obviously -- it is a very large transaction, which tends to distort agriculture. but we are seeing chinese activity across entertainment, transportation, hospitality, finance, and insurance. this really a broad-based wave, and it is washing up in the u.s. and europe and everywhere else in the world. carol: let's talk about why it is happening. i am thinking, this low-year old environment and everybody trying to find opportunity. tell me why we are seeing this slow chinese money into european companies. matt: i think there is a hunt for yields, and that is true across all investors and all countries. in the chinese case, we're seeing a very concerted push by
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companies, large and small, encouraged by the government to go abroad in order to acquire technology, ideas, intellectual property, new markets. this is a really industrial strategy, as much as it is financial, to make chinese companies global competitors. there is a financial motivation, it is about building big global businesses as well. david: what has the reaction been from shareholders, executives, the governments of the countries which the takeovers are based to the m&a activity we are seeing? matt: it is a mix. we are seeing some chinese companies, alibabas of the world have a relatively straightforward time of it when they try to make larger deals abroad. they are not encountering large amounts of opposition. though, of course, there is some. on the other hand, we have situations like in germany with extron where governments are upset about the prospect as they
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see as strategic technology falling into foreign -- read "chinese" -- hands. it is not anywhere near a level playing field for chinese companies. they will face suspicion in a lot of countries. but there are still a critical mass of deals getting done and that is a big change from a couple of years ago. david: when a union isn't a union, at least when it comes to uber. one company is emerging as a clear winner. ♪
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sort of. there is a catch, as reporter josh eidelson told carol massar. josh: there is no union in the sense we understand it on the national labor relations act that wins recognition from the government or from uber to represent is drivers. uber maintains its drivers are independent contractors who do not have the union right. that the new deal gives to employees. there are however a number of groups around the country that have been trying to organize and mobilize uber drivers. as of the past several months, there is a group that uber and the machinist union of claim represents all of the uber drivers in new york despite not having formal collect them -- collective bargaining or some of the rings we associate with a union traditionally. carol: you're talking about idg, the independent drivers guild? josh: right. it is funded in part by uber that does not have collective bargaining. it was not selected in some
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formal way by uber drivers, but it has a seat at the table where they meet with uber and provide various perks to drivers. they have some opportunity at least for input to persuade or pressure uber to make policy changes. they have a partnership with the company to lobby for changes like more favorable tax treatment for uber rides, which they say will go into a benefits fund for uber drivers. to get this, the idg has made concessions. they agree that will not try for traditional union though they could pull out if the legal status of uber drivers was determined to allow that. they have agreed to not to go on strike or challenge uber's practice of treating drivers as contractors rather than employees.
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him the so of course, there is still some controversy. david: also in the technology section, the space race rivalry between jeff bezos' blue origin and richard branson's virgin galactic is heating up. carol massar's spoke with editor jeff muskus. carol: bezos has so many things like getting people into space. talk to us about his blue origin and what they are doing will stop -- and what they are doing. jeff: they had a successful rocket launch. from west texas and the airfield, they blasted off this rocket to other flight accessible places. and this time they added a new twist, the peak of the aerodynamic stress, the rocket successfully tested its midflight emergency escape system which will be of comfort to the crew next year when they are aboard and hopefully paying passengers a year after that.
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carol: what is his timeline? jeff: the timeline right now is to man the test craft sometime next year and a year or so after that, they will put paying customers aboard. carol: i grew up with my dad as an aeronautical engineer, involved in the first space race. if you will, in terms of doing guided assistance. i feel like we are going into a second space race with well-known billionaires. you have the jeff bezos. you have elon musk. and you also have richard branson. jeff: they are operating two parallel trails. musk's spacex is capable of orbital space flights. the rocket has made about nine flights right now to the international space station. he -- carol: he is the one was gone really far. jeff: that's right. he is able to go twice the speed of sound, which is obviously a lot bigger, which is why it was
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a big deal in september when the latest spacex launch blowup on the launchpad. taking a $200 million facebook satellite with it. carol: big disappointment. big news. jeff: by contrast, the blue origin and virgin galactic suborbital space race is trying more quickly than the other to get a reliable system of craft up into sort of the near earth gazing, to get it into 62,000 -- 62 miles above the earth's surface. which means the rocket only needs to be about three times as fast as the speed of sound. but it also means they need to be a lot more delicate. david: up next, a gold rush in mexico's most murderous state. the hits and misses of the nfl's brad pyatt. the investigation that unraveled his musclepharm business. ♪
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david: welcome to "bloomberg businessweek." i am david gura. still a lot ahead. including the cyber security company that did not get credit for spotting a huge data breach. and how donald trump's family fortune was actually made. all of that ahead on "bloomberg businessweek." ♪ carol: there are many must reads in this week's "bloomberg businessweek." we're here with ellen pollock. in the opening remarks section, you take a look at the bangladeshi garment industry. go back a few years a tragic collapse in one of the factories. reminders about what happened. ellen: something like 1000
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workers died in the collapse of this building three years ago. this is the anniversary of the collapse. at the time, all kinds of brands whose -- you know -- buy products made in these factories said they would step in and improve safety for these workers. again, a terrible tragedy. a lot of people. and a lot of awareness that other factories were in bad shape. david: you said these companies said they would step in and change things. make sure that the fire doors, for instance, were not bolted shut. how much has changed? ellen: some has changed, but a lot of inspections have turned up a lot of problems. and, in many cases, some of the problems have been addressed, but not all. a lot of it comes down to money. these companies are paying the factories to produce extremely cheaply. it is not like they have huge margins and can invest in all sorts of safety measures,
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because they do not have the money to. in many cases, they are partly done fixing, but not completely. a lot more money needs to be brought in. for the most part -- there are some exceptions -- but for the most part, the brands are not kicking in a ton of money. sometimes they do, but to get it done, they have to put in more. carol: and the bangladeshi government is not putting pressure on them? because they want the jobs go -- i am -- because they want the jobs, i am assuming. ellen: they want the jobs, and they are doing inspections, so it is not like nothing is being done, but they are far from accomplishing the mission of making sure these factories are safe. david: and the company's industry section, a coming together of two companies in two industries as well. the deal between at&t and time warner opens the door to regulatory questions. what you explore is the reason for doing it. that content and distribution increasingly need to go hand-in-hand. ellen: that is something nbc and comcast came up with.
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this takes it further. at&t has the pipes, time warner has programming. and more and more, as industry and -- as technology and programming become one industry. you need that. the question is how fast will industries consolidate. it looks like time warner wanted to get in there relatively early. carol: they will have to wait and see, right, because there are a lot of regulatory concerns with this. ellen: a lot. a lot of migratory, a lot of antitrust concerns. whoever wins the white house will have to figure out how they want to deal with it. carol: speaking of content, who would have thought to run political ads? apparently there is not enough content to run political ads in some part of the country. ellen: this is mostly a phenomenon in rural areas. you have more advertising this time of year. lots of candidates want to advertise. but there is not enough content to advertise against. we talked to an entrepreneur who is creating programming that he
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then sells to newspapers, websites, that is meant just to put ads. it is targeted programming that the right people will want to watch. so, in the south, there is a fair amount of new content around barbecues. it's sort of tours barbecue places. so people and not area who are interested in barbecue, to be honest i am very interested in barbecue myself even though i don't live in the south. they are clicking on this candidate -- on these ads and then the candidate are targeting those people. david: in the technology section, in cybersecurity, ben cotton was involved in detecting the breach in the office of public management. ellen: it got a lot of publicity what happened, this breach, because the records of many
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federal employees, all kinds of personal data, was taken by the hackers. and ben cotton came to opm and showed them what was going on. he realized how bad it was and really showed them what the problem was and how to fix it. and then when publicity came out, he did not get any credit. the people inside opm thought it was embarrassing. and they did not want him out there talking about it. and he was trying not to. but he was getting credit anyway. and so it did not come out he was involved until congressional hearings. david: it is a great piece, and we spoke with paul barrett about it. paul: ben cotton is the founder and ceo of cytech services, a small cyber forensics firm. he had the unusual experience of having gone to opm to present his products on a day when they
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were in the middle of discovering that they were the victim of a massive hack. what was going to be his project demonstration turned out to identify some of the malware already on the servers of opm. carol: did he find it and help find it or was it a confluence of events? paul: that is where the dispute came in. because he -- as far as he is concerned, he helped discover that opm was under attack from intruders who were eventually identified as the chinese. carol: right. paul: strangely, the agency went out of its way to say he had nothing to do with the discovery, because the agency was under tremendous pressure from congress over why it had
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been so vulnerable to this hack. as it got sorted out, more than a year later, a congressional investigation was done. it was discovered that the reality was somewhere in between. he had stumbled into this situation and discovered malware on the computers, but opm had already been looking into this a few days earlier, even with another contractor. the upshot is a haphazard process of discovery, which points to the tremendous vulnerability, not just of opm, but of the federal government. david: going back to that moment when he showcases his software and this happens, he thinks this will be a great thing for him and his company. he ends up having to fight for recognition and more that this happened. paul: that is exactly right. i mean, this is a dream come true for a small cyber forensics company. which is -- you know, that is a very competitive, growing industry. to be a company associated with the discovery of the vulnerability of a major federal agency, that would be a feather in his cap. as it turned out, he realistically came to fear that
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he was going to get branded as the guy who was falsely taking credit, but he was vindicated or at least partially vindicated. as he describes in a end as some of his rivals describe it, this has ultimately rebounded his credit and has given him some visibility. carol: at one point, the office of personnel management was coming out publicly saying he was taking credit, which is kind of a no-no. paul: you're supposed to keep your findings quiet. your clients do not want you to expose to the world their degree of vulnerability. but the situation shifted in this case because this was all being the sort of discussed both in the media and in congressional testimony. where officials from opm were testifying that "we discovered this," and omitting any mention of contractors involved. i think, as i say, the larger theme here, apart from the
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interesting, intricate story that involves this one guy and his small company, is how his small company, is how haphazard the process it is of discovering an agency is this vulnerable. david: and the global economic section, how a good old-fashioned gold rush is transforming one of mexico's most murderous states. carol massar spoke with eric mann. carol: tell us about the guerrero state. eric: guerroro has kind of historically been forgotten. by development and by the mexican government. it is a state long center for heroin and opiate production in mexico. but it also is a dichotomy because it was the home to acapulco, which was a big hotspot for foreign tourists the likes of frank sinatra, elizabeth taylor, the clintons, who had their honeymoon there in 1975.
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so it has kind of this tale of two states in the coastal area, which has been a tradition of luxury and draw for tourists, and the rest of the state, many parts of it have issues with gangs and violence and cartels. and that has really taken over the last decade or so. carol: so you have that going on. that is the dismal, dark side. the more optimistic side has to do with mining deposits. the land in guerrero state is rich when it comes to gold and iron and lead. how rich is it? eric: there is a lot of deposits. it is still being explored, so no one knows how far it goes. a lot of the security problem has discouraged investment previously. but guerrero has gone from being not being on the map in terms of gold production in mexico, to being among the top 10 in 2015.
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and so it has really kind of leapt forward, where mining companies are investing. the state is extremely excited. the governor, in april, appeared at an inauguration event for a torex mine along with the mexican social development minister and the economy minister. people are extremely excited about this opportunity to bring jobs to guerrero. thousands of jobs. they even recently began a gold-mining cluster, which will allow for companies there to share resources more easily, pool their investment, leverage it in favor of local communities. so it is just a tremendous opportunity that the government sees from these miners and from the companies from abroad. david: up next, the trump ancestor who does not get enough credit for building the family fortune. we will tell you why. and why some cities in the u.s.
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david: welcome back to "bloomberg businessweek." i am david gura. in politics and policies, the trump business that started the family fortune. carol massar spoke with editor allison hoffman. allison: friedrich trump came to the u.s. from germany in the 1880's. a lot of germans were coming to the u.s. at that point. he started in new york with a barbershop, and then decided he
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could make more money going west. it was still the high gold rush period. first he went to seattle and then he went to western washington state. then the gold rush took him to the klondike in canada. he started a restaurant called the arctic in a town called bennett, which was on the trail a lot of miners were taking. it was a sort of key stopping point on the overland route to where people were going to pan for gold. carol: what kind of place was the arctic? what kind of establishment was it, allison? allison: it is what you would expect in a frontier gold rush boomtown. they served oysters, they had a lot of booze, and they had women available for miners who had gold to pay for them. i do not think the arctic was necessarily unique. but our writer pulled archival newspaper clippings from the period. there were some reviews of the
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arctic that described there were private boxes, where you could pay for "services" from women using your brand-new gold dust you just acquired. it was exactly what you would expect. there were some warnings in these newspaper clippings that women of good repute should not go there by themselves. [laughter] carol: we are not going to even touch that now. but he did really well, though, right? he made a fair amount of money doing this. allison: sure. i mean, gwenda blair, a biographer of the trump family, said he mined miners. the truth was your chances of striking gold were not that high if you went out into the mountains, but your chances of making a lot of money off of these guys, because they wanted to eat, drink, and find women was pretty good. so fred trump and his partner did very well with this restaurant. so well that when bennett got bypassed when the railroad was built through the area and it
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became a ghost town, they did well enough that they dismantled the restaurant, put it on a barge, and took it up the river to whitehorse, the next big stopping point for miners. so i think they felt they had a pretty good business on their hands. david: staying in politics, donald trump has fanned rumors about immigrants voting in the presidential election. there has been a quiet movement underway to get non-u.s. residents to vote in local elections. carol massar spoke with reporter caroline winter. carol: donald trump made a claim about noncitizen voters being allowed to vote. what did he say? and is he right? caroline: he said a lot of illegal immigrants would be voting in the election, implying that the election will be rigged. carol: one of his favorite subjects as of late. caroline: true. [laughter] caroline: that's very unlikely. but what is interesting is there are some places in the u.s. that do want immigrants to have a vote. and in some cases, those are
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legal immigrants, who are residents here. in some cases, that is undocumented immigrants. the latest case is in san francisco. on november 8, they will vote on to whether to let immigrants, both legal and undocumented, vote in school board elections. carol: it is interesting and provocative. and there is some historical precedent. which we will get into in a moment but what is the thinking about letting noncitizen voters having a say in some issues? caroline: they really want parents to have a say. they say schools will be better if parents are involved. in a lot of cases, you have immigrants who have come here legally but are not yet citizens. that process takes a long time. so i spoke with, you know, it and assemblyman and san francisco. he said they have people who have children go through kindergarten through 12th grade without a voice into who is on the school board. david: up next, golf tries to make itself cool again. also how musclepharm went boom
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david: in "features," how musclepharm went swole to twig. i am talking about the wide receivers nutritional supplement company. carol massar and i spoke with reporter ira boudway. i am talking about former nfl wide receiver brad pyatt's nutritional supplement company. introduce us to brad pyatt. ira: he played a few years in the nfl. no one had really heard of him. he was a special teams got him a very fast, a kick returner. while he was in the league, he decided to start a sports nutrition brand. his first attempt failed. his second was called "musclepharm." it got big fast. you see a lot of former players
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go into this. it is a pretty low barrier. david: it is like a supplement. ira: yeah, it is supplements, mostly protein, stuff like that. energy stuff. his brand became the fifth-largest in the market. within a matter of years. they signed guys like tiger woods, michael vick, johnny manziel, arnold schwarzenegger. big names. he was an interesting character. he seemed like he was succeeding in a way a lot of former athletes, especially those not that famous, do not. he was ceo, he founded it. carol: go back a little. what came first, the success of the product and then the celebrity? or these celebrities needed to make it successful? ira: he was super aggressive. initially, he could not afford tiger woods. but he was doing a lot with ultimate fighters. he would pay them $15,000 to put the logo on their shorts while fighting. he got his -- he did it early with it usc to get his name in the ring. carol: so the company was growing. they are getting celebrity endorsements.
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but along the way, they issue or they keep issuing stock. ira: right. this was the problem. to make these big deals and keep this region growing, they were always running losses and always having to raise money. they became a public company and started issuing shares. but they did a lot of deals where it is debt to equity, where somebody gives you money and exchange for shares and when they sell those shares it tends to drive the price down and they did a lot of these deals. and pyatt says, "i had to, because i cannot borrow from banks." "i had to take money from whoever i could." so is like a rogue gallery of penny stocks. but this maybe got the sec looking at the stock. it is unclear, but at one point, the sec started investigating them, mainly about unreported perks. this is what ultimately forced pyatt out of the company. they found that he and other
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executives have been getting things like travel to cabo san lucas, cars, clothes, jewelry -- all kinds of stuff. carol: all necessary for running the business. [laughter] ira: well, they made the case. actually you can do that, but you have to tell investors. they were not. so they got in trouble and paid a penalty. david: sports carries over into this week's "etc." section. carol massar spoke with editor brent about how golf is trying to reinvent itself. bret: topgolf is a really interesting phenomenon. it is basically a driving range meets nightclub meets sports bar. carol: that is a lot. bret: the facilities are 65,000 square feet. there is basically three levels to them. they are kind of insane. if you have ever been to a buffalo wild wings or a dave and busters, it is like that but with golf. carroll: i mean, from what i understand you go to these places, there are waiting lines to get in.
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bret: there are 25 in the country. about half of those have been built since the end of last year. it is one of the fastest growing chains of its kind in the country. they are very popular. basically because what they've done is sort of taken the hard or ignoring parts about golf out of golf. carol: interesting. it is like a fun experience, kind of a party. ira boudway actually went to one of these with his dad. there was a mixed group of people that were there. men, women, old, young. bret: right. he went. there was a bachelorette party. there were a couple of young dates. parents with children. the game you play at topgolf was like an arcade game. you try to hit a golf ball into something that looks like a meteor craters in the ground. it is not like you're trying to get the ball into the traditional hole, which would frustrate certainly kids and many adults. right? so, they made into a game where if you get the ball sort of near
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the hole and it falls in, you get some kind of points for it. so it is fun. david: also, an innovative new business model -- professional "mermaiding." i guess that is a made up word. carol massar spoke with linden wolbert. linden: a professional mermaid has several definitions. namely, i believe it is somebody who is an ambassador for oceans and brings enchantment to the world. and it is someone who is half fish and half human. carol: that sounds really good, but you are actually making a living portraying being a mermaid. tell me exactly what you do. linden: what i do is very broad scale, pun intended. i educate children about our oceans, i have all kinds of different things as far as performances. i do events for celebrities, for product launches. i also have my own line of children's swim products and mermaid tails with body glove international.
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carol: talk about the celebrities. we are talking about some really well-known celebrities have hired you for events. jessica alba, kelly osbourne. what have you done for them? linden: usually i do events for either birthday parties like justin timberlake's surprise birthday party that i performed at. for other people, i do children's birthdays or surprises or play dates. i am sometimes hired to swim with children for the afternoon, to bring magic into the day. carol: sounds like fun and sounds like you do things for children. talk to me about the product line you developed. linden: body glove and i teamed up about four years ago now. we decided to create mermaid-inspired swimming products for children. the idea was to not only create magic and mystical experiences for children in the water, but encourage them to get into the ocean, into the water, and learn how we can conserve and be part of our oceans.
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