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♪ >> from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: you need schumer is here. she is an actor, writer producer a comedian she plays to sold-out audiences around the world. amy: i showed up to film this movie and i was like, i think i'm a model now. i think a lot of girls are like this. we have a sneaking suspicion in the back of our heads. maybe, gorgeous? [laughter]
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i think i'm gorgeous. right? [applause] i'm gorgeous, but i just haven't stumbled on the right hair do. one day i will cut bangs and everyone will be like, damn, and i'm like, treat me the same, you guys. [laughter] i'm the same person. and they're like, we can't, we're too hard. i'm like, i get it. [laughter] but then my stunt double was a guy. [laughter] just in case you've never been to l.a., it is filled with the most beautiful people from all over the world. so picture the most beautiful , girl in your high school, the one you wanted to be. i'm talking to the guys right now. [laughter] and everyone was like, you are
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too pretty for buffalo, go to l.a. though. everyone is hot there. everybody. i saw a guy cleaning up a pizza hut bathroom and i would have paid this guy to -- me. people don't even see me there. is that a fat tumbleweed? what? [laughter] my body type there -- my arms register as legs there. [laughter] amy: is that an octopus? i don't understand. and my legs are used for firewood. [laughter] what is the bfg on sunset? and that's the secret, i found out. that's hollywood's secret. they don't put food in their faces. and that's not an option for me. like i don't know how it was in , your house growing up. but in my house it was like you
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, would eat until you were in a lot of pain. [laughter] amy: then you take like a little breather and you get yourself back and even more pain. right? amy: i was born weighing 150. i came out swinging. give me pizza! [applause] that's how it's been. i have never in my life -- i've never said this sentence. i have never said -- oh my god i , forgot to have lunch today. [laughter] if anything, i would be like i had to lunches today. charlie: she has a hit television show called "inside amy schumer." and it plays on comedy central. the show is slated for a fifth season, but not in the foreseeable future. in 2015, a received a peabody
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and emmy for outstanding sketch series and a critics choice awards. amy: you are not nothing, you are not overweight. ok. how does a woman who does not to seww to sew, learn and go on to sew a flag for her country? in i know what could her name , be? i know, her name be like -- oh! that flag that will wave just like this. trying to prove a better state exists. her country. at one. is -- act 1. >> that is act i? >> as i just said, that is act i. asked to is like more
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pop-culture. i'm so fancy. i'd better have my star. it's a getting flag in here so wave it off, wave it off. i heard you called to have your flag flown. charlie: last year, she wrote and starred in her first film called "train wreck." that film made more than $140 million worldwide. >> you feeling better? comfortable? >> i will tell you if i can feel it. charlie: she has written her first book called "the girl with the lower back tattoo." entertainment weekly rights that the book is laugh out loud funny when she wants it to be but more , often is surprisingly honest and raw. a series of essays that range from subject matter from being a member of new money to what she wants people to say at her funeral.
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like her comedy in her life the , book receives high praise. all of that makes me very pleased to have amy schumer at this table for the first time. welcome. it's about time. amy: i know. all these years. i really wanted to make you wait. charlie: did you really? [laughter] charlie: why now, to write this book? because it really is revealing. think, well i've been , working on it for four or five years, actually. and kind of since i was 13. because i wrote journals from age 13 to 23 and i kept a very detailed log of my life. charlie: in anticipation of being famous and wanting to write a book? amy: just like -- a book? amy: just like every other kid, i read the diary of anne frank and it seemed appealing and therapeutic to keep a record to express myself.
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and, i don't know, it made life feel more real to me. and it made it feel like i actually existed. there are excerpts from the journal. footnotes and annotations. really, i have been working on this book for years. this was not a money now is the time and i can make money. charlie: this is how you start. "it's me, amy. i wrote a book. i wanted to make people laugh and feel better. some stories will be funny like the time i [bleep] myself in austin. and some will make you feel a little blue, the time my sister and i were almost sold into sex slavery in italy. neither of those stories are in this book even though both actually happened, unfortunately. it is all true, but it isn't the whole truth. believe it or not, i don't tell
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you guys everything." you do tell us a lot. amy: i do. charlie: and you say you didn't tell stories about anybody in didn't personally say to them, i'm going to tell this story. amy: right. nobody his actual name is in the book. i checked with everybody, and they read what was going to be written about them and they approved of it. charlie: are these essays? amy: i guess. charlie: how you felt about things at the moment. amy: yes, and just what happened. the thing that's good about keeping journals is that you have the records of what actually happened. charlie: this thing is copied -- you don't feel that way? amy: yes, i don't feel that way. if i'm going to say something that might hurt summons feelings -- somebody's feelings or they might be embarrassed by, i would have people say, please don't write about me. there was am not comfortable with that and i won't put it out. but everything i have said on tv
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or interviews, i spoke to the people in my life first. they said it was ok. when i was first starting out i , would make a joke and a friend would get upset. this was 13 years ago i learned that lesson. it's not worth it. it is not worth it to hurt anybody that you care about for a joke. charlie: for a joke or to sell a book? amy: definitely not to sell a book. aboute: what is different this man stand up? amy: this is the most personal thing i've ever been part of. it happened. at the time, i even found the humor in it. it is completely raw, there is no facade. it is standup and a little bit of a character, even though i feel like my standup is getting more personal, but this book is me and it is all true.
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charlie: people like seinfeld and others that have come to this table, and what they say in essence they are, they are standup comedians. that is what they are and how they would define themselves. you? amy: a model. charlie: a model? [laughter] amy: no, i feel very much like a standup comic. but i first think of myself as a woman. charlie: i think that they think that too. amy: they think that they are women as well. charlie: in terms of not thinking of themselves as a writer or an actor or a sketch comedian. --: i have thought of myself i understand what you're saying. i thought of myself as a comic for the last 13 years. and now i feel like i'm evolving. so i do not know. say i am a comic, but maybe in another 13 years i would say a really more a writer. but i've identified as a comedian.
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charlie: did this turn out like you have anticipated? amy: writing a book? charlie: no, life. amy: yeah. charlie: it was a dream. amy: it has surpassed my dreams. i knew that i would perform in some capacity. but i wasn't sure how. but i always believed things would work out. charlie: did you have a comedic voice? amy: always. charlie: and he knew that early on? amy: yes. as young as i can remember i was , making people laugh. hearing that makes me want to throw up. but -- charlie: it separates you from people. amy: it does. you either have it or you don't. it is a little bit of a superpower as a kid because you can get yourself out of trouble or into a lot of trouble. but it does separate you. and i always think of this thing
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chris rock said in a pbs documentary. make them laugh. he said if ignorance is bliss, , what is the opposite of that? so comedians, i feel like we observe so much that it is kind of like a living hell. it feels like this thing that you are kind of blessed with but it's also a curse. charlie: so that means comedians see things with a different eye than the rest of us. amy: definitely. charlie: we see the humor and absurditygs and the of things. amy: all of that. charlie: and you knew that early. amy: yeah. yeah. charlie: and that is a comedic voice. how did you go about owning it became?ng it of what it amy: i think just being open to evolving. and if so what was funny to me and how i was doing standup 10
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years ago is very different than how it is now. charlie: how so? amy: well i was really doing a , character when i started. charlie: how would you define the character? amy: irreverent white idiot. kind of a stepford-y, sorority girl who did not know any better. with a lot of one-liners. you are starting out and getting stage time whenever you can. and you are performing in front of other comedians that are waiting to perform. who paid to be there. it is productive but it is a rough thing to do. i would have to surprise people into laughing. it is not easy. charlie: and they would be surprised they are laughing? amy: yes, because everybody is looking at a notebook and waiting to go up so you needed
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to say something to catch them off guard to pay attention. there was a little bit more of a shock factor. as time has gone on, i move further and further away from it. i still love a good one-liner or something with a twist. charlie: what did you move to? amy: storytelling. and more of who i really am. i think, you know, we have different versions of ourselves. who i would be at a party with my friends saying what i think, and being kind of on. you are in the mood to be social and feeling it. that is me on stage. it is very much me right now a one-liner or so thrown in. mostly, it is the closest to myself i have ever been on stage. [laughter] in your 20's, you are so corrupt with power. especially when you are in love in your 20's. you are so arrogant. we are so lucky we found each other.
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what are all the sad songs about? [laughter] amy: i think of 20's love the same as the tsunami. because i read that in the tsunami, the tide would come in and fish were all over. they were flopping around the shore. and people were psyched. they were collecting them in baskets thinking i cannot believe my luck. all of this fish. that's like 20's love. for me! for me! and then you're like oh -- and it murders you. yeah. enjoy it. [laughter] amy: i don't like talking to hot people. i am very grossed out being
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around someone gorgeous. but my friend talked to her and he was like, she is actually really funny. and i was like, -- you. [laughter] [applause] amy: no way. there's no way. we just have such low expectations for hot people to be anything. i am like, you are probably blown away she wasn't just sitting there playing with her -- and drooling. [laughter] [crying sound] amy: i'm like what did she say , that she was so funny? she was like, get ready to lose. [laughter] amy: i was like, when is her our special coming out on hbo? what a great -- [applause] charlie: who has helped you
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shape it? chris rock? amy: chris helped me so much by agreeing to direct my special. but jerry seinfeld, louis dave , attell. charlie: the best. amy: the best. it seems like a lonely club at the top. and they were kind of excited, not i can in their league, but they were excited to have somebody knew that could understand the level that they are operating at in terms of the size of venue, exposure. and how if they say something it becomes national news and they have done their best to advise me, even though i don't listen as much as i should. charlie: what is the best advice they've given? amy: they all tell me to just basically shut up and not respond to any of the anything going on in the media. charlie: yes.
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amy: but it is hard to do. charlie: especially in the world of twitter. amy: i'm a comic and a communicator by nature so i want people to understand what i'm saying. charlie: and you want to be part of the conversation. amy: yeah. and it seems unfair and unjust. you know, the celebrity culture where straight up lies are printed, i want to say, that's not true. that makes it a bigger story , even by responding. but they are very -- they say just stay off of there. louis, for example, i think he finds it irresistible. he said some things about the political race and he knew got him in trouble. but he repeated it. amy: i personally feel grateful that he did that. charlie: because you agreed with him. amy: i agreed with him, of course. but their advice is to shut my yap.
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charlie: so this controversy about metzger. amy: kurt metzger, yes. [laughter] charlie: i have. you would never have believed that, would you? amy: no. charlie: what is that about? in other words is that an , example where you had weighed in and would rather not? amy: i would rather not. one of the reasons he is a great writer is because his views are so different from mine and the other writers in the room. especially jessi klein, we get in fights because he infuriates us. and the room is, it's an interesting writer's room because it has always been very diverse with views. we don't want it to be one-sided. jessie and i have similar
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sensibilities that it is good that it feels very positive to , have someone in their saying, this is from the male perspective. ale, the mostt m outgoing perspective possible. he is my friend. i love him. i'm not on facebook so i don't read his crazy rants. he gets something from going after people and making them mad that is not representative of me at all. i've asked him, can you just stop because it comes back to me. because the rights for the show, it is a bigger story, because of that connection. so whatever tangent he's gone off on, i have not agreed with, and it's been really upsetting to me seeing someone i care about hurt themselves like this. and so right now there is no
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plans for the tv show to come back anytime in the near future. nobody is on my staff. there are no writers. i think people, they want his head and they want to burn him at the stake. charlie: and you want? amy: i want them to not attach me to what he is writing. and i would love to refocus the energy and attention on the real problem. which is, i feel, people understanding about rape. about what is consensual, what is not. because they really, the way he's been gone after because he debased people. he's the problem, no question. but the focus is on him rather than on what the main problem is. charlie: you mean a smart, understanding of what rape has become and what we are understanding about it. amy: yeah. charlie: when you look at what
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is happening on campuses and a range of places. people in 2016 are stepping forward where they did not before. amy: i think it is great people are stepping forward. and if it's not done in a way feels is right, that is really upsetting to hear. we all need to be empowering each other. but to focus your energy on online trolling, if i did that, i would not get anything done. let's focus on getting the problem done. and i am -- i was sexually assaulted and i have encouraged women to come out and i want men to hear what happens so there is no confusion. because there are different understandings of what sexual assault is and what rape is. so let's get on the same page so it happens less. charlie: it is extraordinary when you see someone come out
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and make an accusation and if it is somebody well-known, somebody has experienced the same thing and stepped forward to say me, too. but they were afraid to speak out. amy: yeah. i think it is good. it was helpful and it makes people feel less alone. and it is such an unfortunate, awful thing. with all these gray areas where you don't know because of things like this. where there is so much victim shaming. when a woman says they were assaulted, a lot of people's first reaction is to say, no, you weren't. why? what was the situation? and it is just -- charlie: what were the circumstances? amy: yeah. they treat it like the salem witch trials. it is unfair and it makes women not want to come forward. charlie: is it hard for you to talk about it? you? about?s it hard to write
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yes. it was a really hard thing to write about and revisit. when i write my journals i feel , like i'm reading about another girl. and i feel bad for her. i feel for her and my heart breaks. my first reaction was, because the guy felt so bad, my first reaction was to comfort him. and that's really sad to me. and that's not how it should be. and so, i'm hoping that some people will read that. and you know, on one side it , makes them think this is not ok and maybe it will stop them from doing something. a woman might be more likely to realize it's unfair and that something has been taken from her. then speak out about it. ♪
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♪ the field today because -- you feel because of the power that you have and the success you've had, and your success has been defined in part that you are willing to confront what you believe and say, has given you more power? in other words that success has , given you a power that is even more than you'd had before to be open about what you think and feel? and you are less worried about any risk to "career?" amy: no. charlie: you still have that
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risk factor? amy: it doesn't make me change my behavior, but every day i am more at risk to hurt my career. charlie: the bigger you are, the bigger the game you are and somehow people want to engage you in some way. amy: right. and kind of take me down. organizationsle, online people literally trying , to end my career. charlie: how does that affect you? amy: it is upsetting and then i go from being upset from being -- to being angry and i want to work harder. i don't feel victimized for very long. it fires me up. i'm not going to back down. charlie: you have that sense of i'm not backing down anymore. what you have found in yourself is success in confidence. amy: and i have an expectation of myself to be honest and proud of how i am living. do i think it will hurt my ticket sales on the road that i
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am so vocal of being a hillary supporter? yes. i think that's but do you care that much? amy: about hillary? charlie: you've made that very clear. do you care about how it affects ticket sales? amy: not enough to not say it. i'm going to say what i mean and live. charlie: people come to see you because they find you very entertaining and funny and smart and interesting. amy: thank you. charlie: it's true. your politics will not keep them from being entertained by you. amy: but it does, somewhat. yeah. it is people who, you know, in the same way if i found out right now that one of my good friends from high school was planning on voting for trump, i would really pull back from the friendship. of -- such a huge line
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charlie: value defining -- character. amy: all of it. i think that people -- i think if i kept my mouth shut about my real feelings about politics or gun violence, financially and careerwise, it would be better for me. but i don't care. amy: speaking of perfect gifts, this is a no-brainer. this is a gun. just your regular, run-of-the-mill handgun. how cute is that. we can pick it up. heavy. you can hold it. sure. >> wow. amy: look at that. >> it's like a toy but it's extremely real. amy: here is what is great. pretty much anyone can purchase this. >> this is so fun. i love it. lady, give me all of your money. it is so fun and it is on sale
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now. >> hi, i wanted to buy a a lot of these. but i am a suspected terrorist on a no-fly list. amy: you are fine. you are fine sweet potato. no one can tell you you don't have a right to buy a gun in this country you are trying to destroy. [alarm] you know what that means. >> mass shooting. mass shooting. amy: that means the government could be coming for your guns. like they never have, but always might. >> scary. charlie: is your attraction to the candidacy of hillary more about her, or about the values and the position she has more so than the fact that she is a historic candidacy? amy: yeah. that's a good way of saying that. i don't care that she's ever gotten her period or had a baby.
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i have loved her for so long. i have been a fan of hers forever and i think the work that she has done and she is crazy overqualified. it's not because i want a woman in the white house. i think it's an exciting thing and it will be good for little girls. and whatever. just in the same way i wasn't interested in the race of obama. i wanted him to win. it's her. charlie: you wanted him to win against her? [laughter] amy: no, no. i was excited about hillary but once it became him, i got very excited about barack once he was the candidate. charlie: once he won the nomination. amy: right. charlie: but before that -- amy: i was hoping hillary. what do you think about him as president?
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amy: i love him. i will miss him so much. charlie: what will you miss? his style? amy: his smile. charlie: his playlist? amy: no. i thought his playlist is a little weird. it's a little thing. it's not what important. charlie: no, but it's interesting. amy: yeah. it's not like he can do no wrong. it was cool. i don't know. but it was all over the place. charlie: what was worst on the playlist? i have it right here. amy: you have it? cool. let's look at it. why not? we have time. do they edit this? charlie: they don't edit. amy: did they edit on cbs the other day? charlie: which joke? amy: our joke. charlie: which joke? amy: when you said, "how long?" did they take it out? charlie: let's do it now.
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how long the relationship will last. amy: we were talking about my relationship with ben. charlie: i said how long? i meant -- amy: i know it you meant. charlie: exactly. but what did you do? amy: you said, how long? and i said, umm -- [laughter] charlie: i don't know if they edited it out but we won't. i promise you. that is comedic talent. amy: thank you. charlie: you think that way. you play off of words. words, meaning, and you have associations. and you know what is funny. amy: i think so. i made you laugh. charlie: of course it did. everybody at the table laughed more than me. i caught it. i knew what i meant but to watch you take it to that place. amy: i had the time for it. charlie: and the timing was stunning. it was like -- amy: i just stretched out that
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moment. [laughter] charlie: it is what it is. that is the gene you have. the ability to see the funniness in something without. but back to hillary for a second. amy: hillary. charlie: you were for her against barack and then you were all in for barack. amy: yeah. charlie: how much is how you feel politically is anti-trump? i know people that don't really care about him, they are not -- amy: who really knows what he stands for? it is such a farce. it is awful. i think we all thought it was kind of funny when it started. oh my god trump, that's , hilarious. charlie: and then from the apprentice to wanted to be president. amy: right. and then once it became a reality that he was a candidate, it is so disturbing. i don't even talk about him in
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my stand up because it's like shooting fish in a barrel. what are we talking about? yeah. charlie: what is the most contemporary thing you talk about? amy: contemporary? politically? charlie: yes. amy: i talk about hillary and meeting her and i talk about gun violence. charlie: i know you do. amy: yeah. i think those are the ones. people, i know this from talking to a lot of comedians and having them at the table. stand up is hard work. amy: yes, it is. it is time-consuming. after a full weekend of a bunch of shows, i might get a new 10 seconds. a new 10 seconds. in what i am trying to shape for an hour set. it is a lot of work. charlie: and you i talked to
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, them and they will go to clubs and test it and go up and you will find out what is good about it, how to shorten. amy: or if it's just bad. yeah. charlie: what is the essence you have to have, of all the people you know, what does chris have, what does jerry have? the range of people. and you know more of the young comedians than i do. amy: yeah. i hope so. it would be strange if you are at the cutting-edge edge of all the new comics. what are you doing? aren't you busy? charlie: what do they have? amy: we all have, first of all, an enormous love and up session -- up session -- with comedy and with jokes. when chris agreed, he offered to help me with the hours. and then i asked him to direct. but it was really just the
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excitement of -- and it doesn't need to be you delivering the joke. if i can help someone with their joke, it so fun. it is this drive that we have, the love of language. and working out of ideas, the premise, and it's like, yes, you can go further with that. and we all just delight in it the same way. charlie: do you go back to things you used in an earlier stand up and bring them back and try them again? amy: yeah. jerry changed my thinking of using old material. just in terms of, he said, you know, my generation of comics, once you say it on tv and it is burned. you can never say it again. and he said, who do you think you are that everyone is seeing every joke? give them the best show possible. right now if i doing an hour, i jokes that might
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equal in minutes of some of the older stuff the jokes i am the , most proud of. i like that philosophy. just have to remind yourself it's not about you. these people have bought tickets. they got dressed up. they parked. they want you to entertain them. every show, promising myself i'm going to do the best , show i've ever done. i want them to just leave happy. charlie: andy will do anything, i mean you will give everything. , it's like springsteen on stage. amy: that's exactly how i think of myself. no, because i do not do three hours and i don't get as sweaty. charlie: is an hour the right time? amy: one hour, maybe one hour and 20 minutes. it is about what i do. yes. charlie: did acting come naturally? amy: yeah. i have been in plays since i was five. so performing came naturally. i studied acting, i was trained.
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in college and then i did this program. it was something i wanted to get better at. i've only ever cared about acting, comedy, and volleyball. my whole life. everything else, i am very lazy. charlie: did you watch the olympics? amy: i watched beach even though i played indoor. on theay at all, i play beach it is hard to -- it is , easier to get doubles on the beach. charlie: how has money made a difference in your life? amy: it has been so nice. it has changed the way i travel and where i stay. and it is -- the people i am closest to, it is a pleasure to be able to give to them and my brother and sister and make life easier. you know, to be able to spread
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it out. yeah. and that is security. it is really nice. and it is really nice to not have come from money because i really appreciate it. it is a security. all i care about is my friends and family. and then being healthy and happy and i can help with that. ♪
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♪ charlie: how long does this last? do you have any sense about that? not that you should have any sense of how long it lasts but -- they are so good now and they have so many things, i've got to go as fast as i can to do as much as i can? amy: i have felt that way my whole life. and since i have gotten into this business, yeah, that is how i have felt. i don't feel that way now. like i have hustled so long, i need to keep myself sane and healthy. and now i feel like i can slow down a little bit. but, i don't expect to be at this level forever or even necessarily much longer. and i don't aspire to. i want to keep doing stand up and i want to keep writing and creating stuff.
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but i don't want to do the work to keep myself at this level of buzz. charlie: you don't want that because it's so intense and everyone is hanging on everything and everywhere -- amy: yeah. i never wanted that and i don't want it now. charlie: but it goes with the turf. amy: right. charlie: that you are part of now. has there been a plan? was there some sense that i'm going to make it in stand up and i know how good that would be? i know how to be good because i have timing and comedic instinct. i just have to pay the price and do the 10,000 hours of whatever it is. amy: right. charlie: you know, that kind of thing. malcolm gladwell. amy: no. i never thought about making even one dollar from stand up. i tried it and i liked it and it was a way of performing. and then, i didn't know people had managers. i had no idea about the
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industry. and then a college agent came and saw me at a show and said, you can perform at colleges and make $500 an hour and i was like -- my head exploded. and it was like, i would find something as an opportunity presented itself, i'm a comedy manager. do you want -- it was never a means to any sort of end. i think in l.a., they will say if i do stand up, it will great -- be good for me to get hosting work. it was never a plan. i never had a plan. charlie: and that is what good about it. amy: thank you. charlie: it is. amy: ok. charlie: you don't know. it is not like a plan. it evolves and finds its own direction and its own speed. amy: and i followed the river. charlie: this is what you said in here "now that all of my , work, relationship, tweets, and body parts are public to analyze, i am proud to label myself a flawed, normal human
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before anyone else did. i've been called everything in the book but i've already branded myself a tramp, so the haters will have to come up with something fresh." amy: yeah. it was about my tattoo. charlie: yeah. was it intent? amy: what do you mean? charlie: branding yourself as a tramp. amy: that is the metaphor of the book. it is like, i have this big stupid lower back tattoo. so as soon as i'm in a bathing suit -- charlie: you don't want us to see it. amy: no it's on the back. ,charlie: yes. there it is. it's a nice tattoo. amy: it is not. charlie: it is. amy: it's raised because he went to deep, it is crooked. it doesn't mean anything. charlie: you are really defining the calligraphy of the tattoo. amy: yeah. it is an awful tattoo.
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it is stupid. i think it's funny and i'm not having it removed. it is just like -- that is what i am seeing -- saying. charlie: does ben like it? amy: he seems to like everything. i haven't heard a complaint yet. charlie: can we talk about how you got together? tell me. amy: we met on a dating app. charlie: on a dating app? amy schumer is looking for -- amy: my friend vanessa they are , she told mei about this app. we were like, let's sign up for it. we both are single. and it was nothing we were really wanting to nurture. and we signed up. charlie: this is not swiping. amy: it kind of is. charlie: it is. so you -- --: it is not like tender
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tinder. it is for creative people. it's supposed to be kind of private. you can't screen shot anything. we both signed up and the match first that i got, the very first then -- ben. the picture was him dancing at a wedding with his grandma. like other people on there i was just trying to look interesting. and playing some song so you would think they were cool. he was the first person i talked to. i got off the app under 48 hours. so i was online dating for 48 hours. and we met up. and we talked for a month. chicago and he was going to be in new york. and we met up and i was like, can you just come over? and my sister was like you can't
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, have a stranger from the internet come to the apartment. it was raining. that's how lazy i am. i'm risking murder so i don't have to put a bra on. so he was downstairs waiting and and he wasing holding a bottle of wine. and we just kind of saw each other and it was just -- i don't know, it's a peaceful moment. i had never experienced that kind of moment of seeing someone , because i had never gone on a date with a stranger. just seeing each other and we just kind of walked to the restaurant we were going to drink at. and, it felt easy and real and nice. it is just sweet. charlie: what surprises me is that you haven't found that before. was it that because you had been all work? amy: no. i have usually dated people that i've known. so it was not that. charlie: or someone you are set
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up with? amy: the setups were not like that. it was like, ok. yeah. charlie: i will do it. amy: i'm sure they felt the same way. no, it felt different. it felt really -- charlie: how much is acting now because of the success of the film? how much will that be part of your future? amy: acting? i don't know. charlie: people loved the movie. it is evident in ticket sales, but they loved it. amy: they did. that was really nice. charlie: it was my favorite movie that year. amy: yours? [laughter] amy: you know, i want to do projects that i'm excited about. and that i can be proud of. i just filmed this movie "thank service."your it is a drama. charlie: you chose it for what reason? amy: i auditioned.
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i did not audition for very much this year. just because there have not been , things that come across that i wanted to be part of. i thought i don't have a chance , but i auditioned. jason hall, who wrote, "american sniper." he wrote and directed it. and steven spielberg was producing it, so i was thinking why am i wasting my time? , charlie: the writer for american sniper, steven spielberg, who wealth? -- who else? amy: kelly bennett. it's a great movie. charlie: that's what it's like to be amy schumer today. amy: that's exactly it. no, it was amazing. charlie: because you are good at what you do. and because you have box office appeal, people want to work with you. but i think in the end, it is people like steven spielberg, it is quality. amy: they said it was the audition. which meant everything to me. charlie: how hard did you prepare for that?
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amy: really prepared. it's an actual story. david finkel wrote the book so i went and met the woman i'm playing. i spent time with her. charlie: this is you. [laughter] charlie: it is. you are what you are because you cared more than anybody else. to be good. it really is. amy: i am surprised other people don't work harder. right? that is why you are who you are. charlie: yes. amy: you know. charlie: and they don't understand it -- they sort of -- amy: why am i not doing the thing? i had a phone interview the other day and this person said, you are the senator of new york's daughter. i said, goodbye. charlie: this is going nowhere. amy: and there are people you meet and they say you really care and you work your ass off, too. like goldie hawn. i got this movie with her and she hasn't worked in 14 years , but she trusted me and chose to do this project and we had
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the best time. and it's funny. and it's an action movie. and so, and i did it because i really care about it. don't --ant to do -- i i'm not trying to make money acting. standup, ifny for it is something about finance -- i'm going to do stuff that i can be really proud of. charlie: is it because people know that and they know what you are capable of doing, an attractive look at interesting scripts? i mean, are you getting a chance now, are you seeing things you would not have seen? amy: i am being sent crap. charlie: are you really? amy: yeah. charlie: you see nothing compelling? amy: not that reaches me. i mean there are good scripts , out there. charlie: not flattering you clever i think that you would be -- because of what you have, you
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have a sense, to talk to you, that you are so very real and very into the moment of being is -- as good as you possibly can be. and for all of that, that you would be first on the list of people. amy: thank you. i think people don't know what i am yet. you know? and that's fine. but i think, yeah, it is like people don't know where to place , you so the scripts i am getting is -- like, i'm going to you know, my cousin's , wedding. and she's -- i'm like the drunk friend. so, i don't really want to ride a moped through a plate glass window by accident. i mean, that does pretty funny. sound but i want to do what i want to do. so it is like the things that sent, that are
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reaching me, the people i'm working with, i asked do you want me to do this? and they know i'm so overworked that they are taking it easy on me. charlie: how are you taking care of yourself? amy: i meditate twice a day. i get acupuncture. i go for long walks. i talk to my friends. and i do stand up. yeah i'm doing the things that , make me feel good. i know i have been hustling too hard for too long. you know i'm going to go on to ur and to do stand up. and then i will take it easy for a little bit. charlie: you have used the word "hustle" several times. what does that mean? amy: from the moment you wake up to the moment you go to sleep, doing everything you can to work hard and be prepared. whatever i'm working on, it has been several things for several years.
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andything has an intent really there is no time for myself, or very little time for myself. i have really tried to make that time. ♪
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