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♪ caroline: i am caroline hyde. this is the "best of bloomberg technology." where we bring you all our top interviews from this week in tech. coming up, the fcc chairman officially out with plans to kill net neutrality as we know it as he joins us for an extended interview. plus what a week for big tech , earnings. from alphabet, amazon, twitter, we will get to all the highlights. and a bloomberg scoop, dropbox hits a key milestone on its way to ipo. our exclusive with the ceo
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ahead. first to our lead. this week saw a showdown brewing in washington, cracking up in -- cracking open the net neutrality debate. the fcc chairman unveiled his game plan for rolling back net neutrality rules at a speech wednesday in the nation's capital. passed in 2015 by a democratic majority fcc, the net neutrality rules and to prohibit internet service providers from favoring or discriminating against online applications, content, and services. now democratic senator edward markey from massachusetts responded to the chairman's repeal saying, it makes no sense. we cannot keep the promise of net neutrality openness and freedom without the rules to ensure it. the trump administration and the ceo should inspect a tsunami of resistance. the ceo said the rules as they stand have made a digital divide.
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the fcc digital chairman ajit pai, the fcc chairman, from washington, d.c. >> this will be a political debate that will engage millions of people, but we are going to stay focused on the facts and the laws. the facts are americans by and large believe in an open internet, but one infrastructure -- want to have an infrastructure investment. they want the next generation networks to be built out. i think what the fcc does not need heavy-handed regulation that saddles businesses with lou lots of rules that simply de-incentivize from building those networks. that will be the course we're charting henceforth. caroline: if these rules are changed, then they will invest? i'm looking at the profits of at&t, $14 billion. $8 billion if you are comcast, shares have region since the original -- risen since the original ruling. they don't seem to have really been hurt. >> if you look at the actual numbers with respect to investments, they are down 5.6% for the top 12 broadband providers in this country.
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and that does not even include the smaller providers who are not included within that statistic. we have heard from cable, wireless, telephone and other providers who told us these title ii regulations as they are called are impeding them from executing on their business plans. they don't spend as much. they can't get as much financing. and as 22 isp's told us, title ii hangs over our business is -- businesses like a black cloud. at the end of regulatory uncertainty and overreach that we want to remove. every american deserves faster, better, cheaper internet, and i am committed to delivering it to them. caroline: so you take away some regulation and oversight. how can you ensure the right rural areas are indeed provided for? ajjt: two things, title ii takes us in the opposite direction and reduce competition and increase what is called digital redlining. companies have more of an incentive to look at rural areas or low-income urban areas and say, you know what you're not , going to get enough of return
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on investment. let's not deploy. secondly, we want to make sure everybody has internet access they need and want, so i have a very proactive, proconsumer agenda to promote internet access especially for those on the wrong side of the digital divide. caroline: so you are taking some replacement regulation advice, you are looking for suggestions. what do you think will come to the fore when you ask for this sort of advice? ajit: that is precisely the reason why we started this conversation. this is the beginning of the discussion, not the end, so we want to hear from the american public, what is the best way to preserve those core values of a free and open internet, of more competition and investment in , infrastructure? i am confident we will be able to find a way that will appeal to consumers in the time to come. caroline: you are talking about consumers, very worth fighting for. you will hear their voices. you've already heard the voices of smaller startups that might be affected by this, 800
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startups and investors led by y, they are concerned about the rollback of net neutrality. you have also heard from the bigger players, the 40 proper internet companies, voicing their discontent. the letter you received today from the 800 tech startups, say "rather than dismantling , regulations that would allow the startup ecosystem to thrive, we urge you to focus instead on policies that would promote a stronger internet for everyone." how can you allay those sorts of things? ajit: a free and open internet is what delivered unparalleled comfort for the american consumer. 20 years ago, who would have for seen that google, amazon, netflix would become household names not just here in the united states but around the world? they thrived because of the light touch regulatory approaches that started in the clinton administration and proceeded through the bush in the first six years of the obama administration. that is precisely the kind of framework i believe will promote startup entrepreneurship everywhere in this country going forward. so i am committed to giving them a chance to succeed, but title
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ii does not allow them or others to do that. caroline: then why are they so worried? ajit: a lot of people have stirred up a lot of hypothetical harms and hysteria based on what they think will happen. if you look at the fcc's decision, you will look in vain 2015 to find any example of systemic market failure where internet service providers were acting to block access to local content, so we wanted to take a fact-based approach to figure out a way to preserve those core values a free and open internet, , allowing entrepreneurs to thrive, and invest in infrastructure and increased competition. those are the kinds of things that will allow everyone in the internet economy to benefit. far, the so thus argument is more competition will basically promote the likes of at&t and comcast to play by the rules and make it a fair and open internet for the content providers. is there anyway you think this could be or should be measured? are you going to look for any sort of oversight? i know that you don't want it to be heavy-handed as you say.
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ajit: that is one of the reasons why we will ask for public input on what the regulatory framework should be. we know that title ii is not the right answer, but as we will see, and i will be publicizing the entire text of my proposal up a number ofe different ideas for how to do it. we will ask the public, is there anything else we should be thinking about going forward? i think there is a way to do it, and we will try to find the best way in the time to come. caroline: therefore when you go out and start discussing trying to bring some republicans as well as democrats into your line of thinking, what do you think will be the best way of getting certain democrats who are against this on board or convinced? what is your key line of clarity, do you think? at the moment, you want to stick with the facts. ajit: look, we obviously are going to be doing more of a fact-based approach than we did previously. the bottom line is this the , arguments i am making today are precisely the arguments made
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by president clinton in the 1990's. the arguments that were made by the fcc chairman in the 1990's. the arguments that were made by democratic senators in the 1990's. this is not some radically political fringe argument i am trying to make. it is the light touch approach that served the united states well under democratic and republican administrations alike. so i am going to take the political heat out of this argument to the max extent possible. i understand it will be difficult to do, but at the end of the day, americans are best served with a light touch framework that focuses on the facts, adheres to the long-standing legal principles, and respects the basic principles of economics. the more heavily you regulate something, the less likely you are going to get more of it. caroline: coming up, twitter shares soared after the social network said user growth picked up in the first quarter. we will dig into whether this growth will boost twitter's bottom line next. and a reminder that all episodes of "bloomberg technology" are now live streaming on twitter. check us out. it is at bloomberg tech tv 5:00 , p.m. new york, 2:00 p.m. san francisco. this is bloomberg. ♪
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♪ caroline: twitter, it reported earnings this week. it finally seems to be addressing its biggest challenge, attracting new users. the social network reported average monthly active users rose 6% in the first quarter compared to the same period last year. this growth comes as twitter posted a year over year drop in quarterly revenue. we held a deep dive and were joined by the forrester research director minister parish in new york and editor at large cory johnson. >> to some degree, sure, it is a bit of a trump effect, but i would say it is more about seeing the name twitter in the press more than it is growth being directly attributed to the president. i think the name has been associated with current events
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more and more and more especially in this last quarter, so sure, we can attribute some of it to the political events taking place and the conversation around to that. caroline: corey, whether it is trump or not, does this lure advertisers to start spending more with twitter? cory: we know the answer to that. the answer is no. user growth great. , 4% sequentially year-over-year. the user growth has been pathetic at twitter and has been for quite a long time. if you look back to the ipo, 27% growth over 3.5 years. that is not a big growth is this. you would think they could pull money out of users. 2.8% growth is better than it has been. a lot better than it's been. it still stinks. you know, and is still on a small base compared to facebook, compared even to instagram, we saw pressure from that today. so those user numbers are weak. if you add to that their ability to monetize -- if users are not
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growing much, with all the data they said they would get about users and find out how to pull numbers out of that, what is the question? what is the revenue base and how fast is the revenue base growing? and the revenues were weak, down on a year-over-year basis for the first time ever. but more importantly the value , of a twitter user is going down a lot. how much they can charge for each user is getting worse and worse. they can't blame it on international. international is still about 79% of the users. the advertisers are just not willing to pay to reach twitter users, and that's a real problem for this business. cory'se: melissa, to point, a great quote in the bloomberg story saying, "when facebook grows at four twitters a year that tells you there is , something really wrong here." is there something wrong or we just seeing a bit of changing and how they will be charging and will revenue eventually pick up? melissa: i do think revenue will eventually pick up. but look, i am a marketing analysts rather than an analyst
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for investors or financial analyst. i think when i look at it, it is true. revenues have been declining and that is a scary story to hear. they are doing things that will be more appealing, make them more appealing to advertisers in the future. they are doing some hygiene. they are getting rid of added products that don't work, they are focusing on cleaning up some measurements. these are small things admittedly but they are things , that look like they are going in the right direction. our substantial changes really needed? yes, i think so, both in terms of the core product and the ad product. i think we need to see some real innovation rather than some of the incremental changes, but from my perspective, the moves that they are putting in place should make them a bit more palatable to advertisers in the future, yes. caroline: that was forrester research director melissa parish and editor at large cory
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johnson. alphabet also out with earnings this week. they came on the heels of the stock seeing record highs. we dug into the report with the someonearl worth and from the department of research. take a listen. >> we were surprised the stock was not up more. the earnings beat by about 4%, the stock is up 4%, so investors are treating this as the same company it was before the earnings came out. in our minds this is a higher quality company, and investors are not showing that in terms of rising sentiment. we are still as confident in alphabet before the earnings came out. caroline: so harry, i want to get your point of view because i have been speaking to an whattive and asking, look, about the youtube controversy, the backlash from advertisers, the slowing down of wanting to link yourself with certain videos? they said this would be a modest effect in the medium-term.
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in the longer term we could see improvement as a change the -- as they change the business. are there worries around this? harry in q1, it would not affect : the business. the ad boycott only happen in the last month or so. it really started in u.k. in it has spread to the u.s.. if you look at youtube as an entity, most of its revenue is generated from the small to mid tale of advertisers, and it is the one stop shop for them. for the largest brand advertisers who really want to be in brand-safe places, youtube is a scary place to run, and it really was not built for those large-scale brand advertisers. youtube was sort of caught proverbially with its pants down where there is not a lot -- now a lot of press around great advertising and great advertisers running against hate speech another problematic content. but what you are seeing is that google is now having to approach this problem and deal with it, and i think there is a little bit of kinks -- chinks in the armor of youtube going forward
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trying to deal with us. armor? : chinks in the mike are you worried about , youtube at all? mike: we are not too concerned. i was waiting to come on here and i was watching you earlier with the commentary that google only expects a modest impact. i think that is very telling. i think this was a major blow to potential sentiment, a blow to the pr for google. and here they are, and is only going to have a modest impact. i think in our minds they have , done a good job of identifying the problems and working to correct it. our sentiment is google is seen -- seeing everything from the inside, not seeing a major major impact yet, so i would typically go with that commentary in terms of the forward impact. caroline: harry, if we are moving away from youtube and other areas, we were concerned about the money plowed into so-called moonshots. ruth the cfo came in and got a rein on it. do you feel more at ease? perhaps the have a handle on the spending? harry: i don't think it has made
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a major contribution to the revenue. you can see from the numbers that the core business is still advertising across search and video. you know, i think that they are going to be careful about spending their money in the right places. the key thing for them as they have to find that next growth area. who knows whether these types of problems associated with content are going to have long-term effects on their video business. i think search is pretty safe, but their video business i think over the long-term, if it is not seen as a safe place for brands to run, it will have a material impact. you may not see it next quarter or the quarter after, but i think over the next few years you won't see 80% of video , budgets into youtube digitally. and so these moonshots really are a way for them to diversify their revenues into different areas. caroline: still ahead, we stick with earnings and dig into
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♪ caroline: now amazon may be diving into the driverless car s race. the tech giant has formed a team that is dedicated to developing self driving technologies beyond the realm of cars. this according to the wall street journal. now at least 12 employees were assigned to the group a year ago to examine how driverless vehicles could help amazon deliver packages more quickly. now this is not the first time we have heard amazon could make a play in the autonomous driving sector. earlier this year, amazon was approved for a patent for a rudimentary management system to help self-driving vehicles on the best lanes for their driving needs. speaking of amazon, the e-commerce giant came out with earnings this week.
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james mcgreevey of forrester research and another join us to break down the numbers. >> the whole investment cycle amazon embarks on, they are saying that, hey we can deliver , the topline growth, so it'll be ok if we increase spending to bolster our growth story. from a profit perspective, the north american margins are studied, but the international sort of losses continue because they are extending aggressively here, and have a lot of opportunities to expand prime internationally, so the growth runway continues, but more importantly they are showing that they can execute against these numbers. caroline: i want to dive into our bloomberg again. it is quite phenomenal to show even though we are at these lofty, heady heights for amazon, we have not one single sell on the stock across all analyst recommendations. largely they are buys, a few holds overall. the stock trades higher in
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after-hours. let's get james' point of view. was it aws and prime that stood out for you? what about the margins from amazon? james certainly we are happy to : see aws perform well. it was good to see the numbers come back up. but really for this company in the long run we need to see it , can fire on all of these cylinders, but the u.s. business in particular. the margins are small will , continue to be small, but we are really confident it will continue to grow year after year after year. there is so much headroom in the there is still -- there is still so much headroom in the u.s. retail business for amazon to claim that between a high-growth product like aws and a solid domestic retail business that is growing and growing, i think that is what will fuel together the international expansion they are working on. caroline: interesting, both of you have talked about international expansion. i think it's interesting the earnings press release lead with india. there is a clear sign of intent coming from amazon.
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jitendra: absolutely, and the people just look at their investments and their strategies, which are regionally different, the pricing strategies are also different. it is basically telling you they are expanding by localizing their strategy in which is working for them. caroline: mexico also a new area that they are launching prime. what about the content side of the business, james? with amazon prime comes the fire stick and fire tv. they are spending big. it reeks in revenue but does not always deliver profitability. james: right, a wheel -- real way to think about the video focus and any content focus is how do we increase the number of engagements per day and minutes of engagement per day? you can think of amazon echo and alexa as an extension of that. if we get you to touch amazon in some way, eight, 10 times a day, that includes video are asking alexa what the weather is, all
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that eventually accrues to i am going to shift a larger or -- percentage of my retail spend to amazon. even though that is not generating topline dollars, it is submitting what is out that -- is undoubtedly the industry's most powerful customer relationship. caroline: where next in terms of where amazon can possibly go? we are seeing record highs for many of these stocks. i am looking at amazon with with a $439 billion market cap. it's about to grow as it holds onto those trading numbers. are you expecting just continued positivity coming from amazon? jitendra: as he mentioned, now that these touch points at amazon keeps adding with radio, -- video, with the ai insistence different products and services, , it brings people back to prime. once people are back to prime, they spend more, so this cycle has a long runway, because if you look at the markets they are , just starting to enter. there are international markets where there is a lot of headroom for the retail segment.
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and of course the cloud business continues to beat expectations in terms of how big is this market, and that number keeps on going up. i think they have into markets big enough to sort of like support that growth longer-term. it is just a balancing act of how much should we invest and continuing to show these positive roi numbers through revenue growth. caroline: james, i'm going to ask this to our guest when we discuss alphabet, but the growing advertising side of that business that amazon is starting to show off, and are these really key competitors? we see them fighting it out in cloud as well. james: absolutely. these are two of the most unlikely competitors that people for years tried to separate mentally, but they are in the same business. it is the business of attention. if you think specifically about advertising, amazon is in a position to give you much more contextual ad placement than google is, even though you are working against the search results. it is not nearly as powerful as
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product search results. when you add what amazon can do with observing you in your life with cameras that as of this week it has added to some of the alexa- echo line, it will be in a position to know so much about you and make product recommendations that surpass the value of advertising coming at a time when major brands like png are pulling back millions of dollars. if i am google or alphabet, i'm very nervous. caroline: that was james mcgreevey of forrester research and jitendra. this week, we learned espn will cut 100 staffers in an effort to save money. that is according to a person familiar with the matter. they say the leader in sports tv is coping with the rising cost and fewer subscribers. in a memo to staff, the espn president said the disney network is determining who to cut from the current payroll. now coming up, our exclusive interview with dropbox ceo drew
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♪ caroline: welcome back to the "best of bloomberg technology." i am caroline hyde. now to our exclusive conversation with the ceo of dropbox. the cloud filesharing startup has been touting financial milestones of the company inches towards a public offering. dropbox is cash flow positive with annualized revenue of more than $1 billion.
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houston told us they are also free cash flow positive. i spoke to him this week in san francisco. take a listen. >> it has been great. we have 500 million people around the world using dropbox, 200,000 paying business customers, and a lot of milestones we are proud of, so in january, we crossed $1 billion revenue run rate. turns out the fastest tech company in history to reach that milestone. last year, we were free cash flow positive. today, we are also profitable on an ebitda basis. that matters because it's a rare combination. it is rare for software companies operating at our scale, our level of profitability, and to be growing at the rate we are, so we are proud of that. caroline: profitability, the enigma. how did you achieve it? cost efficiencies, the growth side? how did you manage to scale to that? >> it starts with our customers. people love dropbox. it is a testament to the strength of our business model.
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inside the company we like to say we have 500 million sales people because all those millions of people have brought dropbox into millions of businesses, and that is how we grow. so the vast majority of our revenue is self-service, so you just pay with a credit card, which means sales and marketing costs are lower. when you combine the scale and efficiency, that's the increase. caroline: it is interesting you have helped dropbox to lower the an awful lotess in other area of other industries in areas. where do you see these sorts of efficiencies going in terms of technology in general? i'm interested in your viewpoint on whether you are an optimist or pessimist? as to whether technology is pushing forward in helping efficiencies work? at times there will be disruptions. how do you feel silicon valley is adopting that? and the administration adopting that? >> when you zoom out, technology is progress. there are a lot of great things about that. that is the story of humanity and our evolution, but when you zoom back in, one thing we talk
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about is that for every problem that technology solves, it feels like it creates a new one, so things like email and thumb drives at the time are great these great inventions, but when you look at it another way, they are holding us back. so fortunately a lot of these pain points become opportunities for us. whether it is frustration around thumb drives, that's just one example of a broader problem we are working on, which is work about work. so when you add up all the time we spend looking for information, emailing and all these things, it is 60% of our time is spent on overhead, work about work, so we are trying to knock that number down as much as possible because it is a huge waste. then when you think about tech more broadly, i think we will end up in a good place, but at
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the same time as technology creates new problems come up we have to be mindful of that and solving those. caroline: when you say we have today, is that for the entrepreneurs and business leaders to be looking at? how much do think the administrations in the u.s. or globally needs to be looking at it? >> whether a company or government, we are part of her a broader community, so it is something everybody has to look at. caroline: when you look at the current administration in the u.s., there's been rolling of eyes and exhaustion coming from silicon valley, and many times feeling whether it is the travel ban, h-1b visas. >> it has been an unpredictable 100 days or so. and look, sure, a lot of positions that the administration has taken on things like the executive orders on immigration are really troubling. my cofounder, his parents emigrated from iran, so if that kind of legislation or that kind of thing was in effect now, there would be no dropbox or when we started.
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and so, tech, we are all rallying together and figuring out what we can do to engage. caroline: rallying together in silicon valley, is silicon valley at the best place it could be right now? some of the reputational damage that is happening at the moment, is that something you want to fix or is it thriving as it's always been? >> it is always complicated. we focus on things that are in our control. we see it. we talk to customers and are a , there are a lot of problems out there. that is where the bulk of our attention goes. caroline: i want to get a little bit of insight as to where you tell other entrepreneurs to go now. reach out to our viewership, those that are wanting to be -- ipo, see their business scale such as yours. do you have a recipe for success? >> when it comes to a lot of
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these problems, one thing that was surprising to me is that it is easier to go after big problems than small ones. because i thought it would just be harder because the challenge is so much bigger. but actually what happens is people are really motivated, inspired to take these things on. it is easier to attract great talent. my advice would be to set your sights high. ♪ caroline: that was the ceo and cofounder of dropbox to houston. now to weibo, commonly known as china's twitter. 500 million people using the microblogging site, and its parent company has enjoyed exploding revenue growth. the chinese telecom giant says it is because of the rapid uptick of weibo users in rural areas. chairman charles chow spoke with aboutively to bloomberg how he plans to keep driving forward. >> last year, we grew revenue by 100% to 110%, so that is very big.
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that moment is continuing this year, so you will see growth in revenues. to a lesser extent, from fee-based services. >> weibo, the messaging service that provides some much of your revenue stream, you have done a very successful job and growing growing weibo users in second-tier and third tier cities in china. where are your new markets? >> we will grow faster than our competitors this year, but the overall market is slowing down. so we are going to focus on the competition and will increase more sticky products and more diversification in offerings, especially the video area. you see that we have tremendous
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growth in terms of usage and to increase in usage and live streaming products. we had just started to beta testing video stories like the ones snapchat has, so this is an area we will be focused upon. video is the key for future growth. >> you said you think there is too much money flooding into the tech sector. are you suggesting bubbles in china's tech sector? if so, where? >> it is everywhere. it's not just one particular area i'm talking about. i'm talking about internet in general. especially in the last 5-6 years. there is a tremendous amount of money pouring into markets, whether foreign firms are local firms, there is too much money. that is why when a new concept emerges like streaming for example, like the shared the economy, then you see not like
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dozens of companies being created, hundreds of companies being created, and in theory these companies will not be successful, but when they have a concept, they think it will work. they don't want to miss this there was a lot of money flowing into creating new companies and you businesses. the result is huge competition in terms of market share to get bigger. so a lot of competition is irrational in a way. caroline: that was the sina chairman with the tom mackenzie. coming up, t-mobile came out with earnings this week, picking up more subscribers to gain ground on rivals.
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♪ caroline: t-mobile has set a high bar and cleared it again, picking up more subscribers to gain ground on rivals verizon and at&t. the u.s. carrier assigned 900,000 customers in the first quarter, showing some serious growth. t-mobile net income rose to $698 million. from $479 million a year earlier. we caught up with t-mobile president and ceo john legere. >> our four-year-old birthday is on may 1 since we became a public company, and 16 quarters in a row we have added more than
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one million customers. we are highly consistent. we had 1.142 million net additions. 914,000 additions were post-paid net ads, and 798,000 were post-paid phone subscribers. here is the piece that's interesting. we estimate we took over 250% of all the growth in the industry this quarter, so a gigantic percentage. 386,000 pre-paid nets. churn at a record low of 1.18. service revenue and total revenue grew 11% and adjusted ebitda normalized grew 21%. that is in an industry where no other carrier gross service grows service revenue and hasn't for years, so we are thrilled with the announcement of the accident, along with the gigantic win in the low band spectrum options. it sets things up beautifully. caroline: talk to us about that $8 billion you are splashing on
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spectrum. how will it be put to work? >> it was a historic low band spectrum auction, 600 megahertz, moving from the broadcasters over. it was a one-year long process. we won 45% of all the spectrum in the auction, 31 megahertz of low band spectrum, and increased our overall spectrum holdings by 39%. we now have three times as much low band spectrum per post-pay customer as verizon does, so it was important for us. the spectrum we got covers every single inch of the united states and puerto rico. it is that beachfront spectrum that goes in buildings and covers rural areas. what we are already doing is we are growing our retail footprint by 30 million to 40 million people to use the spectrum and take the competition which up until now was only in two thirds of the country to every inch. it is historic and exciting for us.
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caroline: does it make you more even more valuable? we have to talk about consolidation. you talked about it in january, saying you see 2017 as a year of consolidation horizontally and vertically. are you going to be a player in that? >> yeah, now the anti-collusion period associated with the auction ends on the 27th which is thursday at 6:00 p.m. so i can't comment specifically. what is important to understand where all this hype is coming from is that there are great opportunities for wireless players and adjacent industries to bring capabilities together to serve customers in a better way and increase value. number two, nobody has been able to talk to each other for over a year. number three, there is an expectation that the new administration will be more lenient from a regulatory standpoint. and you've got three or four people who have committed they admitted they need to do something. dish, sprint, comcast, etc. t-mobile from a strong position,
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much more valuable, we have the opportunity to continue to grow, but we also on behalf of shareholders and customers will be interested in looking at the opportunities that we might further accelerate that growth and serve customers better. caroline: do think you could serve customers and shareholders better with a horizontal deal? would it be better to team up with other mobile suppliers, or do you think it's better to get into the content? >> well, yes, yes, and yes, right. i have often said that what is happening can be easily summarized as all content will go to the internet, and all internet will be viewed mobile can define where things are going and what structures will take place. t-mobile could be very strong by itself and continue to grow. we could consolidate with another wireless player and get scale and bring competition even greater. we could come together with a cable player from a standpoint of convergence that makes sense
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over time. remember, when all content goes to the internet and the internet is viewed mobile, we have 73 million and growing people who get their monthly access to the internet and content from t-mobile, so i think there will be a lot of fascinating things happening. most importantly is we are strong, we are profitable, and have given 45% to 48% on free cash flow growth and our stock was trading at all-time time high today, so we feel very good about all options. caroline: stocks just dipping a little bit. as you said, we are at heady highs when it comes to that particular number, but what about future profitability and competition? you have done so much to disrupt in a field of four, but they are copying you. how can you say your average revenue per user will remain stable and you will keep on adding more users? >> because we are the competition.
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and you say they are following. we are dragging them kicking and screaming on behalf of the consumer. four years ago when t-mobile became a public company, we announced that we are going to fix a stupid, broken, arrogant industry on behalf of consumers, and i also would point out that the 13 un-carrier moves are industry changes, permanent, and there is more coming. there is so much more to do, and we want the industry to change and follow suit. we will have stable rpu but there is more change to come and our competitors know it and are struggling to keep up with us. caroline: coming up, china's ride hailing app didi is near the close of a massive funding round, vaulting the company to another level in the startup world. details ahead. plus, traditional retail has been suffering from the rise in e-commerce, but one company is
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♪ caroline: didi chuxing is close to a milestone. the chinese ride hailing giant is near an agreement to raise $5 billion to $6 billion making it the most valuable startup in china. surpassing smartphone maker xiaomi. the round will lift the valuation to $50 billion, up from $34 billion after its acquisition of uber's china business. that's according to people familiar with the matter. we went live to hong kong with bloomberg's lulu chen. >> didi is raising $5 billion to $6 billion. they are close to closing the fund. the main investors include softbank, silver lake, cnb, and
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like you said, at $50 billion valuation, they are china's largest starter, surpassing xiaomi on a global scale. they would rank only second to uber. twoline: quite phenomenal, ride hailing companies, the most valuable startups in the world. what will didi be doing with its money? will it be taking on its formal rival now frenemy? >> they have different areas they can explore. the money is coming in a timely fashion. they have been very tough on the company, especially since the chinese government issued these stricter regulations that have hampered and main revenue stream of theirs. so despite some more time to develop revenue avenues and the delay of a possible ipo floated as an idea last year according to people familiar with the matter, in terms of other areas they can explore, driverless technology. they are locking heads with uber and google in those areas.
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didi still has global aspirations and an ally with grab and ola. also in india. they are competing with uber on those fronts. caroline: tell us about the other regions they are trying to get in. have they been successful? has it been a hard slog for them? >> right. well didi has taken an approach , to partner with local competitors, local operators like ola in india. they are not actively building out an organic business on the ground there. the same case with southeast asia, and also regions like south america, which they said they awful has interest in expanding in. caroline: fascinating we could see an ipo from china faster than we would see uber going public. talk to us about the regulatory hurdles they have had at home. you mentioned some revenue streams have been hurt and in china. which ones are we talking about here? >> for didi, the majority of their revenue comes from their
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private car hailing service and they're fast car service, basically think about it as uber x, and the chinese government has issued these regulations across dozens of cities across china, especially beijing and shanghai. they have limited the number of people who can drive on the road residents, so this has cut down their revenue stream in those sectors, which has been their main revenue, their area for profit and what investors were looking forward to when it comes to talking about a potential story for an ipo of the company. caroline: thanks to bloomberg's lulu chen from hong kong there. now, with connected clothes rails, online farfetch believes that has created the store of the future using the latest
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. using the latest software and hardware, the retailer aims to help luxury brands gain more information on customers in-store and online. bloomberg went to london's design museum to take a sneak peek at what is in store. ♪ >> online retailer farfetch is betting it can shape the future. this is a concept store showcasing the latest in retail tech. how do you capture all of that fantastic information you gather in store with customers touch and feel products? >> we have created a product called the connected rail. it is a combination of rfid and ultrasound. the rfid signal recognizes the product and the ultrasound recognizes the movement. you take the product off and start to see your products
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appear. essentially it is like online browsing. whichever product to touch and pick up in-store are automatically sent to your app. this is effectively what you created, your in-store wish list. ♪ >> in the middle, you see a hologram of the product. they control the experience on a touch device. what it allows the customer to do is take elements of the products and add their own style to it. right, so this is the connected mirror. in this example i see my products. i select a coat, and that is slightly too big for me, so i choose an alternative size and send a request to the sales station and they will bring that size to me. you also see we have some product recommendations here. sales are able to push items into the mirror from their devices. if you wanted to, you can pay and go. your items within the pack and
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dispatched to you afterwards. caroline: that was the "bloomberg technology" team reporting from london. now in this edition of out of world nasa astronaut , peggy whitson set a new record, the u.s. record for most cumulative days in space, surpassing jeff williams. record of 534 days. to mark her accomplishment, president trump offered his congratulations saying, "on behalf of our nation, and frankly on behalf of our world, i would like to thank you." while an impressive feat, it does fall short of the world record of days in space which is held by a russian cosmonaut who spent 879 days in orbit. now that does it for this edition of "best of bloomberg technology." next week, we will be live in los angeles with a great lineup including david solomon, president of goldman
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