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>> welcome to "bloomberg businessweek," i'm carol massar. >> and i'm oliver renick. >> a scandal of large proportion. >> no patient is left behind because every patient is a gold mine. >> facebook's anti-fake news lab. all that ahead on bloomberg businessweek. ♪ >> we are here with bloomberg businessweek editor-in-chief
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megan murphy. let's start with the opening remarks. you do a great job summarizing a complex edition but it keeps on going deeper and that's the political corruption that exists in brazil. tell us how you guys sort of took decades of corruption and synthesized it into this really good piece. >> we wanted to show that even decades of corruption is actually sentries old in brazil and sort of peel back the layers of the carwash scandal, which is this latest scandal that's been enveloping brazil. it takes us back to the president before her and its enveloping in the existing president and has the roots in the structure of brazil generally, one of the last countries in western america to have a monarchy that was departed in 1889. but if you go back that far and see the sequence of scandals they have grappled with, it's a natural outgrowth of how the government was set up over not just decades, but centuries now.
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>> i think when he was ousted, it brought a lot of hope that the carwash scandal was behind them. that's not the case. when you are looking through this and when your reporters are assessing this, how do they figure out whether we are on the downswing or this is a scandal that keeps going? what are the signs of an end? >> carwash is a perfect example of every time you thought the boil had been lanced and people thought it was going to be the last time. you have to look at the magnitude of companies involved. you are talking about the construction company that has been at the center of this scandal, as well. it reaches to the very highest levels, but also what we do a good job of showing in this
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piece is that on a local level, how it stretches and help desk it's just a officialdom of life. people can earn in those type of kickbacks they take. my favorite quote is along the lines of, anytime you think you are moving into new brazil, you will likely end up in old brazil. oliver: it's a great story. you have the company angle and specific examples of politicians and what they use money for and a good history lesson. let's shift gears and talk about the cover story because it's a fantastic look at what i think is a microcosm of a broader conversation that has really gripped politics and markets for the better part of the last couple years, that's the prices for drugs. specifically, you guys are looking at orphan drugs. how exciting was it to see the story come together? megan: we are incredibly proud of this story and it reporting that has been done on it. some of the stuff we have uncovered. they sell this drug that is an orphan drug, drugs that treat very rare diseases. they can be profitable for pharmaceutical companies and we
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are talking about $500,000 to $700,000 a year per patient. but there are very few people that are affected by this disease that you need the drug for. so, when you have that model, the conundrum is, it's viewed as a wonder drug for people who have taken it, but the kind of the sales tax that has gone in to make sure the market continues to exist are incredible. we opened that story with an anecdote where a doctor, who had taken one of her patients off the drug, got a call from a sales rep while she was still treating the patient, asking why they are taking the patient off the drug. you should keep them on it. those aggressive sales tactics, in an industry known for aggressive sales tactics, are beyond the pale. >> is a lot of great anecdotes, a complex math story behind the pricing as well. we talked to a reporter in bloomfield. >> you write about the
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pharmaceutical company, alexion. tell us about the company and what are the successful for? >> they have been around since the early 90's, but they surprised everyone around 2007 when this drug for a very rare disease, so the risk, came out of nowhere and begin a blockbuster, making almost $3 billion last year, a really tiny number of patients. with they have been known for is taking this one drug and making it an enormous success even though it treats a very small number of patients, under 11,000 patients. it also costs a huge amount of money come up between $700,000.o
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it's really only known for that one drug and big sales even though it only treats rare conditions. >> in layman's terms, what exactly is the disease and are there other sort of products that service it? do they have a monopoly on one of the best service for or the best drug? how do they quarter this market? >> you have two conditions, both of them are having to do with part of the immune system called the complement system. what soliris does is clamp down on that system. there are two systems that they deal with and in both of them, the system goes haywire and starts attacking red blood cells and causes really horrific problems. before this drug came around, neither of these really had a drug that was aimed at treating it. you had to do things like go on dialysis machines for many patients, whose kidneys failed, or get blood transfusions. there is really nothing else on the market right now i'm a
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though are working on things, because there is nothing else that targets this part of that immune system, which is overreactive in both these conditions. >> this should be a good thing, right? you find a drug that helps a bunch of people that normally didn't have any other options in terms of treatment. so this should be a good story, but this is a little bit of a twist. what's going on? >> they treat a very small patient population and for a long time, these patient populations were elected. companies wanted to make drugs that service people with arthritis or heart disease, that have millions and millions of patients. they can recoup costs, make profit, so it's indicative of a good trend, more often drugs being made, however, what's happened is, there has been a lot of stories late as of soaring drug prices. at the forefront is the orphan drug industry. these drugs cost far more than most other drugs and for instance, in the case of soliris, you are talking almost $700,000 per year. and that's every year.
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a lot of these patients are on this drug for life. that's more than the cost of a new home. so there is governments around the world that are sort of groaning under the cost of this drug and how do they pay for this? they have to take the money out of somewhere else. there is a lot of tension now between the cost of these drugs and the folks that have to pay for it. carol: turning the orphan drug story into a cover image was the job of creative director rob vargas. >> big story this week, an in-depth look at what goes on the pharmaceutical industry. how did you guess process all the information and condense it
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into in image? >> after reading the article and how they turned this insane amount for this drug, we were thinking about waste to do it and we wanted to get across that this corporate powers are almost forcing this drug on the people that depend on it. it's actually administered through infusion, so we had this idea of a hand wearing a suit, which is kind of represents the pharmaceutical companies as corporations, squeezing the infusion bag, almost forcing the drug into the patient's system. >> did you really use a hand model? >> we did. carol: i always am curious when you feel comfortable enough to go to the bloomberg businessweek, it's a brand, you want the name act, but you are ok putting the image at the. how come? rob: we do it selectively. that's a much of it that you don't recognize it, but i think our rationale for doing it is that we want the idea to come forward and it gives this effect that we think is nice. >> conventional. >> right. >> i think the text is
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interesting because the kerning is wide and it's bold in some sense. there's not a lot of writing. >> the photo has a clinical feel and we didn't want to over the text, syndicate simple. >> we thought about it for a little bit for me landed on this, but once we discussed it up, we knew it was the one. >> the art within the magazine is fantastic as well. >> there was some concern that people may miss it or mistake it for advertising, but -- >> the system -- why everyone roams the globe. you will find a certain brokerage office angling for their money. >> this is bloomberg businessweek. ♪
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in the features section, a very english story about an english profession. >> we talked to correspondent. >> the english legal system is divided between solicitors who, more or less, are the equivalent of attorneys in america. they work at firms. they argue in court. barristers are self-employed and they band together in this organization called chambers where they share expenses but not profits. and clerks are middlemen. the clerks sell the services of solicitors. it's unclear who works for food. -- who works for who.
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so barristers employ the clark's -- clerks formally, but if you are a barrister i do have a problematic relationship with your clerk, it strangles your supply of work. it a complicated power dynamic. as with many things in the u k, factor.lass is a big often from quite upper-class sections of society and clerks are working-class, so it's a professional interaction that crosses social class boundaries and that's why it's so fascinating. >> a layer on top of that,
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sometimes clerks can make a lot of money and in some cases more than the barristers. >> it is a very well-paid job in relative to the formal qualifications you need to have it, you don't really need any. historically, the clark, chief clark in the chamber is paid 10% of the overall take of the barristers. as chambers expanded, it became unsustainable and was dialed down. most of them are now on some kind of salary and bonus structure. but at the top end, the amounts paid off considerably. about half a million pounds upward. it's a lot of money. >> not a bad gig. there's a pretty wide range there, as well. where you start out and a lot of these clerks start out very young and they work their way up and become personalities and well-known figures of their own. what are the skills that make a good clerk? >> i use a phrase in the story, wheeler dealer, which is a british phrase. the way we used it in the piece was like a hustler. >> didn't you also use the word "pimp" a little bit? >> yes, that came up and with varying degrees of irony, yes. traditionally, it's a dynastic
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profession historically. they would historically come in after leaving school, to the chambers. but then they work their way up. they have to sell a commodity and they have to know how much barristers are worth. one of the thing a clerk said to me was that barristers are very bad at knowing how much they are worth and clerks handle money negotiations. so barristers and sometimes all know how much they are being paid, which is a weird situation. that creates this sort of abdication of response ability. so the barristers are proud of their independence. they are self-employed. nobody can tell them to tidy their room. that's a big deal. >> they even have their power to give their clerks new names in case there is another clark. >> if you arrived at a junior clerk and someone had the same name is you, you had a new one. >> speaking of english, there is a brokerage that has a reputation for going after
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wealthy british. their tactics have landed them in the crosshairs of financial regulators. here's reporter zeke fox. >> i feel like this is of story coming to a movie theater. but i feel it's already been done. >> all these stories are movies coming soon. >> they say they are the world's largest financial advisory firm, whatever that means. they have offices all over the world like hong kong, africa, basically anywhere you might find british ex-pats with money. oil workers in dubai. they are there. they hire brits to call other brits and say, now that you are offshore, you need to move your money and a save for retirement in this new way.
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>> so the world largest financial advisors have a duty to their clients to do what's best. to some extent, but they weren't necessarily doing either. they were operating on the fringe. >> so what my story is about is that they came to the u.s. a couple years ago. they had mainly operated in other markets where regulations are much looser. the u.s. operation from what i'm told by former brokers, did not comply with u.s. rules. so they were double dipping, charging both upfront commissions and ongoing advisory fees. thinks you could get away with in dubai, but don't fly here. so i'm told that securities and exchange commission is now investigating their u.s. operations. >> nigel queen is the guy behind this and he has been doing it since he was like 15 years old. >> he's been very successful, he's british, founded it after working at another offshore brokerage that collapse. he started in hong kong and
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opened in offices all over the world. it's a successful formula. it's aided by this loophole in british tax law that allowed people in certain situations to move their pensions to countries like malta and avoid being taxed when they withdrew the money. >> sounds too good to be true. >> yes, no recommendations here. i'm sure it's complicated to pull it off, but it's better than your average hits. now the u.k. government has changed that law and made it more difficult, so it's restructuring. they haven't addressed any allegations that the former employees told me about. >> what are those allegations? >> after i've heard about the sec investigation, i sorted talking to former employees. they did describe a boiler room type atmosphere in the new york office. people were drinking during the delivered torugs
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♪ >> welcome back to "bloomberg businessweek." i'm oliver renick. >> and i'm carol massar. you can also catch us on the radio at sirius channel 119, and in new york, in boston, in washington, d.c., a m naik 60 in the bay area. >> and in london and asia on the bloomberg radio plus at the >> president trump's budget isn't expected to get passed congress. >> but that could be what it white house wants. peter coy explains. >> we got a first look at what the white house budget looks like. give us the rundown on how both sides of the aisle are reacting and what the hope is to
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accomplish what trumps are. >> the budget of course is very ambitious. the concept is that trump inks he can wipe out the entire federal budget deficit and produce a surplus like 2027. at the same time that he raises spending on the military and border control and protects the retirement portion of social security and medicare. >> provide some scope on that. how big of a challenge is that when you talk about wiping out the budget? dot does he have to do to that? >> it's a huge challenge because most people who have looked at the budget said the biggest portions of the spending are interest on the debt, which has to be paid, social security, medicare, and the military. those are all being set aside, written off as being out of bounds, which puts more pressure to do something about the discretionary portion of the budget, which is spending everything on the national weather service to the post office to the courts and the state department and on and on and on.
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>> it's picking away at the tangential things rather than the big buckets of money that need to be addressed? >> right. then the tax side comes. would saying people to balance the more taxou might need revenue. when we got that one pager about the trump administration's plan for taxation, they said we will cut rates but get economic growth that will get us back to neutral, so we will be revenue neutral. but in the budget i came out this week, they said, we are going to get more tax revenue, which will help us bounce the budget. >> republicans may not be able to test any kind of health care reform without the help of one republican smith from louisiana. >> here's editor matt phillips. >> in politics, you guess right about dr. bill cassidy, first time republican senator from louisiana, shaping up to be a critical vote in the senate, especially when we talk about
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healthcare. >> republicans had 52 seats in the senate, not a big majority. they need 51 to pass anything that health care bill. if conservatives get their way, whatever health care bill would defund planned parenthood, that immediately loses the support of two female senators. it's sits up casserley to beat the potential crucial 50 vote with mike pence, the vice president being the 51st vote. even though he's not on the working group that is working on the group behind closed doors, this gives him a huge amount of leverage come fairly moderate when it comes to health care of it and they need him if they want to do anything.
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>> who is this guy, where does he come from? >> he's a louisiana senator, medical doctor, spent a lot of his career working in a charity hospital. he got into politics after hurricane katrina. it shook him seeing how inactive the government was in taking care of its people. he set up a medical center in an abandoned kmart, spent time in the state senate, then went to the house visiting louisiana. 2014, he beat mary landrieu, so he's been in the senate for two years. >> his mission was to do what trump promised on the campaign trail, he wants more health care for everyone and make it so that they can afford it. >> that's right. in a political savvy move, it tides the president to his words on the campaign trail, to lower
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costs and broaden coverage, which isn't something that the bill that came out of the house does. in fact, it goes extremely in the opposite direction and it probably result in 20 million people losing coverage and premiums going up. he said we can do the opposite and he has some plans that are pretty radical in terms of the conservative agenda. he wants state to have the option to keep obamacare, wants to keep a lot of obamacare taxes to pay for some of the stuff and he wants to take lessons from the retirement industry, 401(k) industry, where you auto enroll people in coverage, rather than letting them opt in come at you make them opt out, which will do away with mandate, but still result in a broad poll of young, healthy people that will have lower costs. >> and people are most likely to stay in than opt out. >> that's right. and the evidence is 95% to 65% if you do this default change. a couple insurance companies have done this and they saw premiums go down by 20%. >> up next, how the old and new generations in iran are forcing the country's old guard to reconsider how it governs. >> facebook is trying to curb extremism. this is bloomberg businessweek. ♪
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oliver: we are back with bloomberg businessweek editor-in-chief megan murphy to talk about more must-reads in the magazine. let's go to the economic session in global he can't because similar to how it to you guys did at rate file in brazil, you did a historic file on a different country, iran, and the politics behind what's happening right now and the different shades of revolution, if you will. >> we wanted to look at the recent reelection, and the leader who's viewed as a liberal reformer in iran, and reelected with a large majority earlier this month. we wanted to take that back and how the demographic of supporting him have changed. as we go back to iran in 1979, where we had the revolution, islamic order came in. there was a substantial change in the way of life and what you are finding now is that decades later, parts of that revolution are starting to fade a little
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bit from public life, but you truly among youth, who have very different lifestyles. it's not as strict. a girl who says she can ride around with her boyfriend, which would have been unheard of. but it's still within the islamic order. it has a platform for a different, modernist, more western way of life every that's starting to bubble forward and push forward in iran. >> it does seem to be a point here as the iranian citizens realize how important it is to get out and vote. what i thought was interesting is that you has also profiled some of the older generation that remembers -- a lot of times we forget that it wasn't the conservatism of the past couple decades. longer ago in which there was a sort of shift toward liberalism, but then it reversed and went
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back. >> and in such a way, 1979 is an so long ago, and how fundamental that was in a change of life for many iranians. the issue now is that it's also an economic issue, but eagerly with sanctions and the u.s. deal that we struck has really opened the veil to other ways of them to consume western ideas. there are people who download "the walking dead," they have internet. they have more access than they used to have. it's in a notable consequence of society and a digital society. the economics of iran has forced through and people wanting a better life and realizing an existing regime couldn't serve that. it'll be interesting to see come out looking forward, what policies rouhani puts in and how powerful he really is in terms of changing the economic structure of the society. >> absolutely. another topic is as we did a good job of getting the polls on. the emergence of people using facebook live, people using facebook newsfeed as a way to disseminate ideas, some are more
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harmful than others. tell us about the reporting that went into how facebook is fighting the hate speech and terrorism recruitment that happens on the world's most popular social media platform. megan: this is one of the most important issues of our time is how social platforms can police this kind of hate speech, where they had become such a disseminating mechanism of desk far more than its founders anticipated when they started it as a way to connect with friends. it's become an unbelievably powerful way of galvanizing and giving voice to what happened relatively isolated groups, to give platform and send out messages of hate and racism and seen horrible posts of death and killing. for facebook and other companies like it, it's an immense problem that they are grappling with mark zuckerberg, they've hired people poured money into this come up with this story tells is how a small band of people with a very dedicated mission of looking at racism in germany on the far right, out using a counter narrative, almost telling a different story, is a way that on a small-scale you can come back to this kind of speech if you can scale it up.
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>> i really like the profile of the folks in the company that are combating it. is also interesting to look at the political angle as well, where in germany you have an punitivemeasure, facebookmeasures if doesn't do this. talked to our reporter. >> facebook has taken a lot of racism as well as other communities for extremist content. from began a, isis videos, right wing hate speech in europe aimed at immigrants. two, as you say, more horrific postings of just very traffic violent content. there was a case in thailand of somebody who filmed himself killing his child.
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there's a person in cleveland, ohio, who uploaded a video of him murdering somebody. these sorts of horrific incidents have brought a lot of attention to what social media content is and is not doing to police content. >> now that they are seeing that this is something that is not going away overnight, what is facebook doing to combat this? >> facebook is doing a lot of things. the main thing is trying to take down this content when they are made aware of it or it the other thing they are doing, that my story focuses on, most people are not aware of, in a case of facebook they have started funding companies and organizations, charities, to do what is counter narrative. this is essentially content that is designed to take the same kinds of digital tools that you find it humorous groups using to spread their message, and turning it around, using those same tools to spread a counter message, counter propaganda, if you will, that's designed to undercut peoples believe in this extremist content is designed to undercut the message that the
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extremist groups are trying to present. >> and basically using the same method that those who use hate speech online use the same tools. >> that's right. you are trying to create viral videos, memes, using hashtags, creating content that will spread, often trying to target specific groups of people. hoping they will comment on these posts. either positively or negatively and in some cases, that enables -- experts are enabled in the radicalizing extremists, to enter one-on-one dialogue with some of those people. some of the content is designed to do that, create one-on-one dialogue that will actually change the views of some people that are leaning towards extremism or are part of extreme groups. some of it is aimed at a general population to try to inoculate the population against falling under some of these extremist viewpoints. >> i find interesting in the
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story, you write about this is similar to what the advertising agency is. is like selling coca-cola you have to approach it in that way. >> that's right. that's a quote in the piece from someone who runs a think tank in london. facebook has given money in order to research what does and doesn't work in terms of counter narrative. he specializes in what a lot of this x-unit content is an tries to reverse engineer it. why does it work? what is it effective? if you figure that out can create counter messaging. he thinks a lot of it is very to advertising any product, that you can take a lot of lessons from selling coca-cola to selling anti-isis propaganda. >> up next, indonesia goes to war with its so-called chile market. >> washington, d.c. is helping its cabbies fight uber drivers. >> this is bloomberg is asleep.
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♪ >> welcome back to "bloomberg businessweek," i'm oliver renick. >> and i'm carol massar. oliver: indonesia police is breaking up chile cartels. >> we spoke to our editor. >> when i heard chile and bank in the same sentence, it's a story about in indonesia, the central banks have original and -- have regional inflation have 500eams that units spread out across the country. we are talking about 7000
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inhabited islands that monitor prices of many of the items in the basket that are used to track inflation. this is about a particular town that saw the price of chilies triple. all of a sudden, that immediately set off alarms. one of these 500 teams, that is not composed just of central bankers but also law enforcement and representatives from the national competition agency, they started investigating and they investigation spread to borneo and an adjacent island. and there is a wholesale corner to this market in this one area and they are selling the supply of chilis that was supposed to be going to local markets. >> what's important here is that
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chilis are an important part of a diet for people in indonesia. >> it's in everything, breakfast you, restaurants every time order food. spikes, itice impacts the majority of the population. how troubling and how expensive did it get for them? >> a triple the price. and half the country lives either low or really right around the poverty line. so these are the populations that are most impacted by inflation. that's why the government is so vigilant. but cartel-like behavior and
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smuggling has been a particular problem in this country because of the logistics of moving food around. and also they are very strict food import control. there are few parties that could affect the price of certain items that's the case with chilis. the regional team is also broken cartels in meat and it's looking at sugar, so it's an interesting way desk you think of bankers living inside their office, shuffling papers. >> in the economic realm come up within that rum, to provide scope, you have the issue of inflation, higher prices, rice is based on, at least in the u.s., we think of it as a basket of goods. that basket of goods in indonesia is constituted by chili, so prices go up and you have an inflation issue. why is it so article for the essential bank economically to get this under control? why is inflation such a problem? >> they have inflation targeting 5% a year, but they know they are monitoring for regional differences, so in this one place where the investigation started, inflation is starting to trend above the 5% and that's what they began to act. by the standards of venezuela
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and other developing countries, inflation of 5% is not that much. but when you have a large percent of the population that is poor, that is super exposed to changes in food prices. if you have a staple, let's say milk tripled in price in the united states, you could see people really reacting to that. >> in the technology section, washington, d.c., has a new plan to help the city's cabbies compete with uber drivers. >> here's our reporter. >> he was having trouble coming getting competition from an industry that was doing a pretty good job of pushing out, but they are starting to adapt. >> that's the hope in washington, d.c. the local taxi regulator at the end of this summer will actually remove the taxi meters from all
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cabs. the hope here is to make taxis a little more like uber in the sense of being nimble. they are going to use smartphones or tablets to make new services that will reinvigorate the taxi industry there. >> they are stepping in aggressively to stir up an industry, the taxi industry, the drivers that have been around a long time. >> traditionally, the uber story has been both the taxi companies and the regulators resisting change. at this point, change is not worth resisting. it has come and that there is a real scrambling to figure out come what do taxis offer now? what can they be? >> we are better to have this symbolic shift. there is a lot of pushback. was there a turning point that made regulators and lawmakers in washington, d c, say, we have to
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get this under control. >> they have a new director and they are trying something new. >> what is there approach. one thing in the story said it was not just one app. interesting.ty basically what they said is, we are moving the meters. there is a process for certification for apps. if you are an app developer, if they approve at the drivers can decide to use it. they serve as traditional meters but they can wear on the other services that might attract drivers. delivery services may be. these are things that are going to happen, we are not sure what they are going to look like. oliver: so the taxi industry had
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government does not specify a dedicated technology group to come up with a solution here? they're just sort of crowdsourcing to a certain extent, give a short best idea. >> yes. sort of crowd sourcing. the payments will be handled by square at least at first. they have seven different developers who will make the first generation of apps. there will be a limited universe for taxi drivers to choose from. we will see if a couple of those rise to the top. they may add more in the future. fire musicp, why the festival may have been doomed before it began. >> this is businessweek. ♪
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♪ carol: welcome back to "bloomberg businessweek," i'm carol massar. oliver: and i'm oliver renick. you can also catch us on the radio in new york, boston, washington, d.c., and in the bay area. in asiand in london and on the bloomberg radio plus up. the future of movie theaters. oliver: we are talking about virtual reality parlors. i am really excited about your story because it sounds like a lot of fun and it seems like a big step for bringing virtual reality habit. tell us what you're looking at with imax right now. >> earlier this year, imax bought some people into it and center it in l.a. where it is
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games that itr. for a will be the format new sort of friday night out or if you like, a new form of entertainment that will be an alternative to the imax theature. for me, it was an eye-opening experience because today, as a film reporter, you get to see a lot of virtual reality. it's a really important part of the hollywood story. the adaptation to new technology and new medium, not just for marketing films, but there are people who really do believe it's going to be a new medium for which to tell stories. beyond just gaming, which it's really known for at the moment. and it felt to me, for the first time, something i could see myself doing. i enjoyed a lot of the
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multiplayer games. and it's eye-opening. it's apparently doing financially very well. it's a pilot program at the moment. it has one center in l.a., and will open one in new york and midtown. >> the infamous failure of the fyre festival is quickly becoming the stuff of legend. >> but it may have never had a chance. >> a lot of us have heard about this disaster that was the fire -- fyre festival, you guys go into some of the details in business week. indeed, under the could, it's a mess financially as it was for people who tried to take part. tell us what happened. >> there was a festival held in the bahamas to promote this brand called fyre. fyre media runs this app that you use for booking talent. they help the stressful to raise awareness for their rant and hype it up and get people excited about it.
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but, when people arrived there at the festival, that they paid $1200 to $1250 to attend a music festival with big names, they arrived to a total disaster. >> what do you mean, total disaster? no music? no places to stay? no food, what? >> once they arrived, they realized these tents look like disaster shelters. and the luxury villas and fancy accommodations just didn't exist. so they pulled their stuff out of a shipping container, their luggage was brought in that way. and they are removing it from the shipping container that based on the pond. and then they stayed at the tense for a while until they were called over to the mess tent, which was just -- the types of meals being sold or given to them there were not what they were promised. they were promised gourmet meals
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but they got a ham sandwich with cheese on it. and it are repaid for all of it. >> so the participants, the revelers, let's call them. they already paid, they loaded up there wristbands with money, per instruction from the organization is. they get to the island, and they find hurricane relief tents, something like that. a ham sandwich. what about the stars? was this thing dead on arrival when people got there? >> it seems that way. blink 182 to was one of the headliners there and they pulled out even before the festival began because they said they were going to be able to provide the type of experience expected of them because the place just wasn't professionally done. blink182's stuff is actually stuck in the bahamas right now. >> tell me about the revelers planning to attend.
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they paid from anywhere from $100 to $100,000 packages. and billy mcfarland and fyre got a couple loans, millions of dollars. >> don't forget ja rule. >> you are talking about millions of dollars in loans. where did this money go? >> we don't really know. what happened was, a little before the month of the festival, they took out a $4 million loan to help pay for everything. and then three weeks before the festival, they took out another $3 million loan to up to $7 million was funded for this festival. >> who are these people that loan them the money? >> they were going to repay the second loan with rfid payment. those wristbands you were talking about, they had loaded
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up thousands of dollars on to these wristbands that were to be used to on-site get upgrades. what set you wanted to rent a boat for a day, you boot your wristband and get a book for your friends. you andet a boat for your friends. that never happened because the festival was canceled. apparently, nobody has gotten their money back yet and the lender has sued fyre or jeffrey atkins to get his money back, which he alleges was never repay. >> "bloomberg businessweek" is available on newsstands now. >> also on bloomberg.com. what did you like? >> two stories i wanted to mention. i didn't realize how important chili was to the economy. also, the london story driven windows into the world. we all learned something. oliver: for sure. carol: what about you? story about brazil, corruption, different topics. i think it is something we
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