>> from our studios in new york city, this is "cahrlie -- charile rose." charlie: we begin this evening with politics. it was the most expensive house race in history. international attention. many viewed it as a referendum on president trump and his agenda. the loss raises questions about the party's tragedy i doubts about its leadership. -- and doubts about its leadership.

the president is all smiles. joining me to talk about the results of this race and what it means for both parties, phil rucker of "the washington post." i am pleased to have both of them on this program. tell me what this means for the republicans, president trump. >> for the republicans they escaped what would have been a devastating defeat. democrats are demoralized not because they thought they should have won in this race, but because they thought they were going to win the contest. it sent shockwaves to the political system. it would bring in more money and set panic amongst the republicans, and congress might even affect passage of the health care bill in the senate, and various numbers will be debating how much we distance ourselves from trump. it was a lost opportunity for democrats. i'm not sure it says the republicans are in much better shape than they were two days ago but they certainly dodged a bullet in georgia. charlie: it was a lost

opportunity because one, they had a lot of money. >> money wasn't a factor. i suspect democrats will be able to raise almost as much money as they want. perhaps they would have raised more if they had won. if they had picked 25 districts, the most likely, the most competitive they could take back in 2018, this probably wouldn't have been on the list. it'ss in the next year and a kind of district, republican leaning, highly educated. they have to win some of these seats. charlie: what kind of candidate be?a soft present into >> he was a fairly ineffective candidate. fit ford like a poor the district. he was are more traditional chamber of congress moderate republicans.

use easily tagged. nancy pelosi and the liberal national democrats, the way he ran his campaign was troubling for democrats because there was a huge opportunity. this is a district that only percentageump by one point back last fall and we have five months of horrible headlines in the news about the trump presidency, where the republicans should have been vulnerable here and the democrats were not able to take advantage of it. charlie: that raises a basic question, can democrats run on an anti-trump campaign or do they need to point out to a progressive -- progressive think they're in favor of? to the need to have an active agenda as to what we believe in, not simply we are against trump? >> you're exactly right. is notust anti-trump enough.

they need to have fresh ideas, aesh inking, fresh leaders, freshfaced rates the democratic party of hillary clinton and nancy pelosi and barack obama is basically over now and the democrats need to do some soul-searching. they are trying to do that. there are leaders in the country trying to reinvigorate this party. but it has to be more of an agenda than simply #resist. it's not going to be enough. charlie: who are those leaders out there trying to figure out where the democratic party goes? i agree with phil. you can't just run an anti-trump campaign. i'm not sure that's what ossoff did. he had deficiencies of a candidate. democratic polls showed trump lasting 9 points in the two months. he was not popular in his district. karen handel didn't campaign with trump. she had him in for a fundraiser. it may tell you that republicans can win when they don't face a good candidate and it doesn't

matter if trump is an albatross. those leaders need new faces. the problem is that neither pelosi nor schumer has done a terrific job of putting forth some of the more attractive younger members they have, and i think they've got to start doing that. in the senate, if you will. there are young congressman nor attractive, congresswomen. the losey and steny hoyer and chuck schumer, great politicians. that's not the face of the future. charlie: at the same time, should donald trump -- should he say to himself this morning, i keep telling you, i keep playing to my base in my faces strong, so we will get through whatever our problems are, we will get through them and we will build and agenda, we have perhaps something coming out of the house on the health care, we will get to tax reform and infrastructure, all of those things, but things are not as

bad as it seems because i don't have any strong legislative victories to point to. that's what the president is saying and thinking today and i've talked to white house officials who say that same point. they're saying, this is proof, this is evidence the country doesn't really care about russia and doesn't care about the the beltway are obsessing about in the media. i think that's a odd analysis. i think there are vulnerabilities for president trump in the country. his approval rating nationally is very poor, historically low for the president and is a real resistance to his leadership style and some of the decisions he's made in office and i think to satisfy his base and keep him galvanized and energized, he's going to have to accomplish something. my colleague was out in the country all last week in different states talking to trump supporters and voters are it again and again she was hearing that people want to see

him govern, they want to see him get things done. so far there is no big-ticket item and he needs to have that in order to keep them -- charlie: can he make the argument, look, i would have a lot more done if i wasn't distracted by all these investigations and all this stuff when there is no evidence presented that anybody on my team colluded with any russians anyway? >> that's exactly his feeling anyway. he feels that this russia cloud, that's the word is used, stands in the way of his agenda. it's blocking him from be able to achieve great things as president. but he's going to have to find a way to muscle through it and come art mental eyes what's happening with russia and prevents russia -- russia, comey, everything, prevent that from infecting the legislative agenda which they are trying to move or were here on health care, tax reform later this summer and infrastructure down the road. charlie: how do you see that? >> i think they will make a good

point. almost all of this cloud, if you will, if he can self-inflicted cloud -- he's done that. the russian issue will be there. there's a highly respected, incredibly effective special counsel. what he finds, he will find. trump can say what he wants to say. is what they have to do is put together coalitions of republicans to be able to pass health care and any kind of tax reform. i don't think there is any chance in the world of passing real tax reform this year, and health care is dicey. how they get conservatives and moderates to agree on a house-senate final version, i don't know. i think russia becomes an excuse rather than an impediment for trump. charlie: thank you, phil. thank you very much. >> thank you, charlie. charlie: we will be right back. stay with us. ♪ charlie: returned to north

korea, 22-year-old american student otto warmbier died after less than a week of -- since being brought home. u.s. officials were quick to condemn north korea's treatment of wambier. secretary of state rex tillerson said, the u.s. holds north korea accountable for his treatment and unjust imprisonment. comes at a time of exploiting tension in u.s. relations. yesterday, president trump's adjusted on twitter that china's effort to help out with north korea is not worked out great john minna from from washington, david sanger's national security correspondent from "the new york times." he's a former abbasid or to south korea and currently the dean of the korbel school of international studies at the university of denver.

i'm pleased to have both of them. let me begin with -- begin with this. what has this done, in a real, serious way, to the ongoing relationship or lack of relationship and the tension between north korea and the united states? and do we expect the united states because of the depth of this young man to take measures that it had not been prepared to do before? chris? i'm not sure this horrible incident is going to affect the overall lack of a u.s.-north korean relationship. the lack of that relationship is caused by north korea's pursuit of nuclear weapons. they've shown zero interest in negotiations. they've shown zero interest in any serious discussion about a discussion about nuclear weapons . instead, they've wanted to talk to us as when nuclear power to another, in the meantime the u.s. has worked very diligently with china, doesn't have much to

show for it to be sure, but i think that is further exacerbated the u.s.-north korea relationship. even if they had returned otto warmbier in good condition, i don't think that would have had an act and certainly this is not going to lead to any improvement, quite to the contrary, there's a sense in the trump administration that there is nothing that can be done with north korea. i think you will see them doubling down on china, notwithstanding with the president's tweet. charlie: david? they will double down. i read the tweet a little bit differently than kristin. i read it that the president who had said to me in an interview last year that he thought the chinese had complete control over the north koreans, is now coming to the conclusion that four one of his

predecessors came to, which is the chinese control may not be complete and even if it was, they're unwilling to use it because they don't want to destabilize north korea and collapsed north korea on their border and perhaps absorbed by the south and have a u.s. ally on their border. tragedy i think adds a little bit more to the emotional impact here. remember when the president ,ecided to months ago on syria even if he did it only for an evening and only in one facility, he did it in part because of the emotional impact on the children who had been suffering so and ultimately with the syrian chemical weapons. similarly i think the conversation he had with the warmbier family the other day may have a significant impact on his inking. we don't know enough about the degree to which the president is

driven by these kinds of incidents that the early indication is they do have an impact on him. charlie: chris, what would make a difference to them, if anything, other than a military strike? clear it is not at all that there is any more of a military option today then there was yesterday. a military option is extremely problematic given the 20 million or so south koreans who are in harm's way. kind of direct action of that kind by the u.s. would have to involve some kind of consulted process with this new south korean government. i think it's going to be a very delicate game working with this new government. the south korean president would be in town in washington next week, but i think it's going to require a lot of tact and some approach which i'm not sure the trump administration has yet been able et been able to this way. i think it's going to be very

difficult working with the south koreans and at the same time, i think when the trump administration looks at north korea, they are not really sure that they have much to work with there. what could move the north koreans' hearts to say, but i think really a prolonged and deep and clear bilateral understanding between the u.s. getchina will eventually their attention. whether that's on a track that would move as fast as north korea's nuclear aspirations is hard to say. i think when the north koreans get the point that the chinese really are serious and that the chinese and the u.s. are consulting on ways to directly that program,ard i think that would start to get their attention. but this requires a real full-court press sort of all hands on deck approach for the chinese. there again i think this

administration has difficulties with that kind of sustained effort, simply don't have enough of a team to do that. rex tillerson is drawn in six different directions. he really doesn't have people to draw on. i think they are going to find this issue that they kind of figured as one of the number one issues would indeed be that, and they can be looking at a north korea deliverable weapon within a matter of their first term. i think this is an administration that right now views itself as having been unlucky enough to be sitting in office at the very moment the north koreans were about to go merge two technologies they had been working on for many years. shrinking a is nuclear weapon to the size that can fit on the top of the head of a missile. the other is getting that missile out and shooting it as far as the continental you united states, just showing they

have the capability. and the thinking is that everything changes at that moment in case you are then vulnerable to such a weapon. there is an america first element to that because the japanese and south koreans have been vulnerable to north korean missiles that probably can have nuclear weapons on them for some number of years. trump hasy president said he cannot tolerate this, and president obama before him said he could not tolerate it great so what did obama do? he refused to negotiate with the north koreans, but it did accelerate, as we discussed in previous shows. that was aimed at trying to sabotage their missile launches. between 2014 and last fall, that looked pretty successful. in the past couple of months and

during mr. trump's time in office, the north koreans have been more successful and conducting test, mostly with new solid fuel rockets. if the american program is still active, and we believe it is, it has been a successful social and it's the only thing he can do shy of a direct attack that has all the effects and all the downsides the chris just described. charlie: on the other side, as a diplomat -- is there anything you can offer him, not punish him, but offer him that might make him amenable to a denuclearization argument? >> it's important to keep on the table our commitment to negotiations of a nuclear free

korean peninsula. think even the trump administration agreed to do that. nothing has been taken off the table. that is important to say, as we work much more assiduously with the chinese, not so much on looking for ways to coax the north koreans back to the table, but rather looking for ways to retard the program, whether cyberattacks or whatever, the space between peace and war. we have to do both. i think we need to signal to the we will bens that receptive to an approach, p rovided they understand that they can't just come to talks and say, we are a nuclear power, now we are going to deal with you as the soviet union dealt with you. the problem is north korea has failed to make any kind of commitment, or at least kim john jong-un is not made a

commitment. i think his father was interested in a negotiated solution if not committed to it. he certainly cared what china.. what is quite striking about this new north korean regime is they don't seem to care what the chinese think. i think the chinese are going to have to get their attention and be far more aggressive than they have been, and the problem there is i don't think there's consensus within china on going ahead with that. there are chinese it would look to throw the north koreans under do so immediately, but there are many more chinese who believe that somehow the demise of north korea would mean a victory for the united states and a defeat for china in the eyes of many chinese. i'd like to mention one other point about this idea that north korea could reach out and hit the u.s. with an icbm, a nuclear icbm. i think this does have profound implications are japan and south

korea. the purpose of that technology is not to somehow thwart a u.s. attack on north korea, which we all know is not going to happen unless they attack us. the purpose is to somehow create a situation where the u.s. does not live up to its treaty obligations with south korea for fear that north korea will unleash a nuclear attack on the u.s. but with thetched, u.s. be prepared to lose an urban center in the western part of the u.s. with the satisfaction of having obliterated north korea? not sure that's really going to do. i think any president would be this one and the one who follows would certainly have a quandary about whether the u.s. should be engaged in helping south korea, when in fact the penalty of it could be in north korean nuclear attack against the united states, so the u.s. will

probably be looking at these treaty commitments and if it isn't, at least the south korean people and the japanese people will be wondering, will u.s. get themselves into a conventional war, and risk this type of counter attack? thank you so much. we will be right back. stay with us. ♪

dinner" iseatrice at the new film heard salma hayek stars in it as a mexican-american emigrant to attend a dinner. over manyickly spar issues, including immigration, capitalism, and the environment. therefore, here is a look at the trailer. >> hi. >> this is my dear friend beatrice. >> nice to meet you. >> beatrice is a healer. >> this woman is a saint. birds fly out of the sky and land on her shoulder. >> this is beatrice. she's staying for dinner. >> you were hovering. i figured you were part of the

staff. >> i don't know why, i think i know you. >> ever dancing vegas -- dance in vegas? >> thank you for having us at your home. those efforts were illegal, i do not know you, neither was i hear tonight. >> thank you for having me. when i first came to the united states a long time ago -- >> did you come legally? >> yes. your big hotel -- >> i owned them. >> i always had the desire to -- >> good job. you are working. you are contributing. >> i don't consider it murder. man and beast. the struggle for survival. >> are you for real?

i don't think it's funny. i think it's sick. >> sounds like you have a pretty tough job. >> for what? >> i don't know. evenge, maybe. you think you can hide behind these gates and everything will be all right? >> the world doesn't need your feelings. it needs jobs. he needs money. >> the world doesn't need you. >> thank you very much. >> what were you thinking? >> i kind of feel like i don't even know you. >> you don't know me. ♪ >> this can't possibly end well. charlie: all right, all right. joining me now, the two stars of the film, salma hayek and john lipscomb. john, what do we have here?

story of athe dinner. a dinner for six very wealthy people. lot,couple of turns of there's a seventh guest, and that is soma, a mexican immigrants, immigrated to the states. she's a healer. film, course of this salma's character and mine become antagonists while the others kind of look on in the settlement. -- befuddlement. it goes from being very wry and comic to being very complex. it goes from being a comedy of manners to a film about much, much larger things. charlie: and it takes place entirely over the course of the dinner. john: in one set, one costume

for each of us. brilliantly written. the two of them work together often, and they presented it to salma is nothing but an idea. salma said yes, and here we are. charlie: why did you say yes? salma: i would have said yes to anything grady was one of those you had me at hello. i'm a huge fan of them. i almost worked with him once before in a movie he wrote and was going to direct and it didn't happen. then i hired him as a director. day had thisone idea, and they called me over. they came to the house and said, we want to do a film together. we had this idea and you want to be in it. i said, what is it? what's it about? it's about a dinner. i thought for sure i'm the cook, you know.

i said, what do i play? he said nothing. he would not tell me. on the day ofr, my birthday -- he hasn't written anything. he gave me the script. idea was -- wehe were outraged, because we all love animals. if iought, what would i do go to one of these one day and i realize it, and sitting down with this guy. what i just act normally like nothing happened? what would i do? that's where it all began. charlie: to know you is to know the battle of ideas.

john: it was written for her and inspired by her in many ways. although, she somewhat represents both mike white and miguel too. charlie: in terms of their values and how they see the world? john: yes. on the other hand, they are not sternly judgmental of the other characters. that's what makes it such a provocative film. charlie: they also make you interesting in a way. it's not just a buffoon who got rich. john: it was very interesting the way miguel directed my character. from what we've already told you, your reflexive response alpha guestug, the at this dinner, is the villain. but he goes way beyond this almost immediately. charlie: what did he do to go beyond that? john: the first time i talked to him about the character on the phone, he talked about doug

with great- doug affection. charlie: and who believes he's doing good because he provides jobs and pays taxes. john: he doesn't think of himself as the villain, so why should we? taxes and creating jobs is a wonderful thing. it's important to mac. exactly. i think it's done with a lot of respect, both sides. the arguments are equally eloquent and smart on both sides . they are written well, they are so well performed. there is something charismatic

and intelligence and warm and smart about this guy. john: the interesting thing is a real connection does, as contentious as it is, a real connection between stew grow between the two of them. charlie: what's the connection? john: we are at least engaging. neither one of us is a writ of arguing our case. they are both very powerful characters. it's quite gripping to see a movie in which two characters from these two completely different and almost opposite engage.ctually you don't see that in movies. you don't see it in plays, you don't see it in real life. charlie: were you thinking of anybody when you model this character? john: that's a leading question. he's a billionaire real estate developer. these days you think of one person. .harlie: donald trump john: but your viewers don't

need to be told donald trump is not the only billionaire real estate developer in the world. at thisther hand, particular historical moment, you cannot look at this film and not think of the things that you and i and all of us are thinking about all day long. we made the film in august and september of last year. i was thinking there would be such a political change coming. november 8 came along and suddenly the movie was the same, but the perception of it we knew was going to be completely different. suddenly a much more urgent film. charlie: she's empathetic. she's an outsider, in a sense. an outsider in terms of -- salma: i think it depends who's looking at it. charlie: and who's inside.

salma: for the other people she's an outsider. she doesn't feel so separate from everyone. having a complex to the fact that they are beautiful and rich and well dressed and powerful. she's not dressed like them and she doesn't come from the same social circles. she doesn't come in with a chip in the shoulder. john: she's very direct. interestingly enough, she does not have as much sense of humor as doug does. our direction together, she takes everything literally and seriously. i try to toss. for me, it completely works to dismiss everything, to make fun of everything serious. charlie: we have to tell why she's at the party. salma: she's at the party because she comes to give a

woman, and iis have treated her daughter when she had cancer. so they feel in debt to me. the daughter is now out to college. she feels like i'm part of the family. that she wants to feel like she's a really good person, doing the political right thing, but not for real, just for her to feel good about it. and that's why a lot of people identify with this one. then my car breaks down and there's no way out and i live very far away. so she ends up -- john: staying for dinner. charlie: we have a central idea. you have to have this ghost somewhere. where does it go, or is it just an evening of the relationship between two interesting characters? john: very slowly and

incrementally, the tension just ratchets up. salma: and there's a lot of tension. that is one of the things about miguel. john: alcohol fuels all the best energy. charlie: so where does it go? tension. john: we can't tell you where. salma: it starts in tension. it continues tension. my character starts having an existential crisis and a meltdo wn. eventually there's a little bit of marijuana. her reactions -- you don't know what they are going to do, especially my character, are very unusual. wouldn't you say that, john? and they can be anything.

somebody asked me yesterday if there was somebody that was completely -- would they hate the film? they wouldn't because they which is gets a movie about this great guy who got dinner with this crazy, insane mexican, you know, like i sneak into the dinner, and destroy the dinner too. charlie: when he first meets her, he thinks she works for the staff. because you were hovering around. john: it's the most exciting dialogue. john: -- salma: and also sexism. they say it's the first movie of the trump era. racism, sexism. classism. charlie: --

john: and the dinner itself, the big set piece in the middle of the movie, is an incredible study in social awkwardness. you get into the conflict reasonably quick. john: their pacing is wonderful. it just wilson builds. charlie: -- builds and builds. charlie: he seems to say things quite innocently and for her, it is offensive. quite he says things cynically and she too smart to be offended by it. and so full of love and compassion. so, they think she's stupid. they get more comfortable. but she doesn't react to any personal insult. and she doesn't even judge him. it's when she starts realizing what he represents, not for her,

for the world, that she starts questioning things. john: i just have to complement salma, for such a fantastic and bold performance. it's completely unlike her and yet so unlike her. charlie: you got great reviews too. it. do more reasonable than you would expect. a titan who can afford to be polite because he knows he will crush you anyway. pretty good. dear, i think the one thing about this film, it promotes conversation between the two americas because i want

to understand how people think they are very different than we think. salma: for me, the most scary part about the situation we're in, personally, real life, the america we're in, is my own inability to completely make america thatrt of it's considerably in size, and i don't quite understand the logical mentality very well. and this is scary to me, that i don't understand. charlie: you don't understand the politics? the class -- salma: i don't understand the philosophy. and it represents in many ways. know thate, we didn't racism was so strong until

recently. the land of the free, the land that celebrates individualism. [inaudible] to this degree? charlie: i do. yes. and especially the people who are the victims of racism, i think they knew it. it's more apparent now because of the presidential cameras and it's no longer hidden. you have a candidate that is building a campaign on calling out the haters. john: and building a wall. salma: an imaginary wall, that is not logical, and that is not going to be built. john: in an atmosphere like this, it's inevitable that -- you about this movie just can't watch this movie without it stirring those

feelings, those thoughts, those arguments. salma: it's not just politics. but it makes you look at politics from a completely different interactions of people, and what people really need to hear. charlie: i think this -- i hope this conversation makes people want to go see the movie. salma: spiritual inequality. this is one of the main themes of the film. charlie: good to see you. thank you. john: wonderful as always, charlie. charlie: we will be right back. stay with us. ♪

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across all your locations. fast connections everywhere. that's how you outmaneuver. here, the nine time grammy award-winning musician who is known as 1/2 of the black keys. he returns with his first solo album in eight years. it is called, "weighing on a song." the album has been called a love letter to the city of nashville. here is dan performing right here in our studio. ♪ i've been thinking. i've been strumming waiting on a song

i can almost hear one coming i'm just waiting waiting on a song look down in my pockets underneath the bed walked under a lamp post and one hit me on the head or too dumb to see all the sounds surrounding me waiting on a song

you can look up at the stars cars the you'll still be waiting waiting on a song there just waiting waiting on a song songs don't come on cheap fall down on your knees pray one comes along

when those skates come down you've got to stop and turn around or you'll be waiting waiting on a song you'll be waiting songng on a charlie: i'm pleased to have dan auerbach at this table for the first time. dan: thanks for having me. charlie: you said you put everything you know about music in this album. my: it's almost like i spent life for. to make this record in a weird way. just listening to the records i did in putting together the studio, than i meet all these great musicians in nashville and all of a sudden they are congregating at the studio. this record sort of came out of settling into nashville, and

kind of living it. charlie: longtime since your last solo album. dan: it's been a long time. i had success with the black keys and we went on the road. we hit it hard, and we never stopped. so i mean, the black keys, we took a break last summer and we have been touring for almost 4 years solid, straight. charlie: plus 8 grammys. how is it different for you in terms of going solo, or being half of the black keys? i guess for me, when i'm working alone on something, it changes every time i go in the studio. it's whoever i'm working with that day. when you're in a band, it's just you two, and you have to work together, kind of as usual. charlie: you are a master of

many trades are you are a producer. you have your own label. you do it all. dan: yeah, but it's all connected. it's all sort of the same thing. when i was producing records and giving them the labels, you know, i was handing in this finished product. someone tong find put the album or work together. -- artwork together. making records is the thing i love to do since i was a kid. we got together. it was about last summer. i decided to take a break from touring. i needed to be at home. i lived in nashville almost 8 years and i never spend much time there because i was on the road so much. charlie: it's become one of america's most favorite cities. dan: it's become one of mine too. i got to settle in and not leave and settle into the way of life, and check out some of the songwriting i had heard about

that i'd never done before. charlie: your music video "shine on me," your interview. dan: someone you might find familiar. you. ♪ why did you do that and what did you want to explore? dan: it's an animated video. it was his idea, he sent me the treatment and i loved it. i love his artwork. he put it together and it was so great. charlie: where do you want the music to go from here? dan: music is who i am. i played music growing up with my family. music is just what i do. it doesn't really need to go anywhere. charlie: does it tell you rather than you telling it?

dan: every day i go in it is something new. it's that creative process that i'm so addicted to. that's a beautiful thing about it. charlie: is any part of the process harder than others? difficultng is very for me, personally, being on the road all the time, being away from your family. a kind of turns into groundhog day. charlie: how do you and john write? dan: everyone has a guitar. starts the ball rolling. if you have chemistry and if the gods are smiling on you, you come up with something. charlie: let's talk about the song you did, "waiting on a song." what's the origin of it? dan: john said, i have an idea. he starts strumming. three chords. john writes all the greatest songs ever with just 3 chords. thinking,'ve been i've been humming, i've been strumming, waiting on a song.

been itching, i've been thumbing. i can almost hear one coming. we kept going. we finish it up that day. charlie: for you, the creative spark comes from living your life. dan: yeah, i got hooked on that guitar and that music early on. it was the thing. all these musicians -- when you see all the musicians on the back of that thing, that's all those guys. jean chrisman and bobby wood. that's kenny malone. there are just so many great people. all those guys, they made some of my favorite records of all time. they participated on this record. almost all of them played music with their families growing up. pretty much every single one of them grew up in a musical family. charlie: i didn't. i grew up with books, but not with music. dan: i think it is something

with these guys, they feel at home when we are playing music together. charlie: who's had the most influence on you? dan: my uncle. he sang bluegrass songs and we sang together. jim -- me and my uncle jim. charlie: -- dan: i've never felt more inspired, being in the studio. i just can't wait to get there. -- i really feel like i met all these guys, some of these guys are in their 70's straight they meet me at the studio at 9:00 a.m. sometimes we will be there until 2:00 in the morning and then they will be in at 9:30 the next day. charlie: you share one thing, the love of music. dan: if the addiction to that creative process. we are there for the same reason because we know what it feels like to catch that special moment. you can be so sure about a song. it's so good. the new go and recorded, and it

sucks -- then you go and record it, and it sucks. you have to be there. you have to try. charlie: it can be perfect on paper but until you are hearing and singing it -- dan: until it comes back through those speakers in a way that makes you feel good inside, you have to keep trying. we've had some success with songs. when you get it, there's no greater rush. charlie: congratulations. great to have you. thank you for joining us. see you next time. ♪ >> ♪ i'm going to look good all dressed up for my own funeral girloing to stand by my don't think i won't i'm going to stand by my girl

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