♪ from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: the news in washington this week is dominated by missiles, mcconnell, and manafort. despite the crisis over north korea, president trump found time to call out mitch mcconnell over the failure to pass health care. the president's lawyer reportedly accused robert mueller of gross abuse of the judicial process after the f.b.i. searched the home of the former campaign chairman. joining me for perspective is the host of "face the nation," john dickerson of cbs news.

welcome to the program. let's start with north korea. seems to bet rolling of this confrontation with north korea. what do we understand about it? john: it is one for the on the gas and one foot on the brake it feels like with this administration. the president on thursday saying maybe his remarks on tuesday or not incendiary enough where he threatened to north korea and said if they threaten the united states again, they will see fire and fury the likes of which the world has never seen. an extra anything to say on almost the 72nd anniversary to the day of the bombing of nagasaki. trump: north korea best not make any more threats to the united states. they will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen. theas been very threatening

on a normal statement. as i said, they will be net with powerfury, and frankly, the likes of which this world has never seen before. thank you. john: the president said today maybe his rhetoric was not tough enough. when you talk to administration officials involved in the delicate north korea question, they are going in the opposite direction. secretary of state tillerson said people can sleep soundly, not to pay attention to the rhetoric. a source in the administration today was basically acting as if the president have not said anything and kind of continuing on a path with north korea that looks more traditional. you saw the yuan sanctions over the weekend. he saw secretary tillerson last week say to north korea we are not interested in regime change. we are not going to attack you,

kind of dialing down the rhetoric. it seems to be the message you get from everybody but the president. charlie: how about the secretary of defense? john: secretary mattis when asked about the president's remarks said the president is in charge of rhetoric, i'm in charge of what i say. mattis said to the north korean leader, do not keep doing things that will endanger the future of your country. very broad. but when it comes from secretary standingo has a lot of when he talks about following through on threats, it carried the weight of the military but without boxing himself in. when president trump said if north korea offered more threats and a couple of hours later north korea threatened guam, they had already crossed the redline the president put before them. mattis is tough and sending the signal of toughness, but he is also working closely with the secretary of state. because mattis has talked about

how catastrophic any kind of military engagement with north korea would be, he is thinking about all military options but that does not -- i should say that does include a kind of containment possibility. he is not just thinking about the most aggressive military option. charlie: i send the president believes he has to get the attention of the north korean leader. and he has decided this is the only way to get his attention, using the kind of language he uses and would understand. john: i think that is rightjohn: . we have heard secretary tillerson say a version of that. the question is, to what end? the language is either meaningful and therefore you follow up on the threat. if you do not follow up on the threat, what signal are you sending? -- because the president did not follow up on

his threat, we are in this strange position at the moment where it is not clear. but i think your assessment of his intent is probably right. charlie: the question is who he is sending the signal to as well. john: he is sending it to china as well as pyongyang. from talking to administration officials, they feeling china has not yet fully embraced its embraced and fully putting more pressure on north korea. andthat part of their task what people seem to be spending a great deal of time on is figuring out what the levers are to get china to keep putting pressure on north korea, do everything it can to keep north korea in the box a little bit. charlie: and determine the rationality of their leader as to whether he intends to attack the united states or simply wants to have a nuclear weapon because he believes the united states has evil intentions

towards him, and this is the only way he can protect himself and save himself in power. john: the question of what is going on in the might of the north korean leader is crucial. you have hit on exactly the right thing. if they think he is a rational blusternd all of this is towards a short-term goal. if they evaluate him and say the reason he wants a nuclear weapon is so he can reunite the peninsula and use it to blackmail other countries, blackmail the united states, that is an argument for preventive action. at least in talking to some members of the administration, they believe kim jong-un is a much more rational actor than the crazy man theory would suggest. , even buy into that idea if he has a nuclear weapon, he would not just go firing it off as some of the scenarios would suggest. what you put your finger on is crucial.

the debate over what kind of rational actor he is. the problem is the intelligence as ifs, they don't feel it is completely solid. every day they are feeling more nervous because they are learning the program is moving faster than some of their original assessments suggested. charlie: is the administration united on the rhetoric used by the president? john: not at all. ittrying to get administration officials to say whether this was strategic --i remember during george bush's presidency, in the administration they used to talk about dick cheney seem like he had a knife in his teeth because it allowed people in the administration to talk to allies in the middle east and say we do not want to let cheney loose. it was a nice good cop/bad cop. that is a traditional strategy in some places.

when i get back mostly is this is improvisation by the president that has some of them scratching their heads. charlie: especially the use of the language. john: the use of the language and the red line drawing. is no active foreign policy the president and his aides have criticized more than president obama's improvisational red line drawing when it came to syria and not following up on it was squandering of u.s. prestige. it seems curious the president would draw a redline he was not ready to follow up on, at least he has not in response to the immediate threat from the north koreans to encircle guam and fire. charlie: if you want to get health care passed, why do you believe it is in your interest to criticize the one person most likely to help you get passed, mcconnell? john: there does not seem to be

any strategic and if it -- benefit to attacking mitch mcconnell. and explanation could be -- we have seen this in a number of instances -- the president distance himself from his own role in health care reform. when he ran as a candidate and came into office, he promised he alone, because of his negotiating and marketing skills, would be able to pass health care. that he alone could do it and it was all in him and his skills. now that it has not passed, he is saying is all mitch mcconnell's fault. this is important. it matters to tax reform and sets the stage for the 2018 campaign. when theysident -- talk about draining the swamp, sometimes they are talking about mitch mcconnell. this is going to be a campaign in 2018 where you have the running against his own party in congress?

that can create ugliness in a campaign year where everybody wants to be playing on the same team. charlie: as harry truman would say, the do-nothing congress. john: truman was running against republicans. charlie: running against congress. john: absolutely. the challenge is mitch mcconnell just got reelected relatively recently, so he is not up in 18. you put pressure on him. mitch mcconnell knows where a lot of things, a lot of the levers are that can be double -- bedevil a president. mitch mcconnell, you want him to be on your team. you can do lots of things. there are investigations in the senate. you can do lots of things to help those investigations continue or keep them out of the limelight. there is a lot you can do in the

appropriations process that would help the president or not as he feels fit. charlie: the mueller investigation continues. week notice of the fact paul manafort's house was searched. what do you read into that? obviously, the , aion of an early dawn raid so-called no knock raid, suggests they had serious enough information about what they were looking for that they had the judge give the ok for that. i don't know if that means there is -- that they have some inkling of collusion. they may have found something separate and apart from the campaign and mueller is going after it because under his mandate he can go after crimes if he sees them. this is not necessarily proof there's something there to the

collusion. charlie: generally, if you have the f.b.i. do a no knock raid, you believe you will not have documents or information given to you that you have requested or are seeking. john: and the documents are charged enough for important enough that mr. manafort would not hand them over freely. you get a judge and say this is what we are looking for in that suggests there may have been a crime committed. we just don't know the nature of the actual crime. if it is with respect to the election, it is another piece of data in that you had a judge agreed there was enough that it is hard to characterize this as a witch hunt. the other thing that interests me about paul manafort is the russian, paulhe

asafort is described -- described by the president was so disinterested in the meeting when he attended that he spent all his time on the phone. now we have heard that mr. manafort has turned over his notes from that meeting to the congressional committees and that was in the documents mueller's team has collected which suggests there was something important enough about the meeting that notes were worth taking. if those notes are in contradiction to the story about what that meeting was about, that does put you right in the center of the collusion question. charlie: notes are one thing manafort may have made for his own reference. jared kushner left the meeting, according to his testimony in closed session, because nothing was going on and he was bored. john: that is right. you have three possibilities.

one is that manafort's notes contain nothing interesting. two is they contain something interesting and jared kushner was smart enough to leave. or three, they contain things that may be in contradiction with jared kushner. this meeting is so important because before that the administration said there were no contacts with russians seeking to influence the election. now we know at least there was this one meeting sold specifically with the intent of handing over information collected by the russian government on hillary clinton. that is what it was sold as. we don't know what happened in the meeting. we only have the word of the participants. it seems smaller -- mueller is trying to find out what notes fill out the picture so we don't have to take it was words for it. charlie: do we understand paul manafort is or is not cooperating with the mueller investigation? john: his lawyer says he is

cooperating. he is definitely cooperating with the congressional committees in handing over things. he's not cooperating at some level or they would not have gone knocking before the sun came up. it is unclear. we know what his lawyer says. miller and his team have some view he is not cooperating fully or they would not have been making that kind of visit. charlie: talking about people have influence in the new york crowd and general's with influence, you referenced earlier the divisions that might be about north korea. aboutey serious divisions how to handle north korea or is it simply about the president's rhetoric? john: at the moment, it seems to be about the rhetoric. although the rhetoric has some connection to the next move. it is not unlike on russia. this is preliminary.

i don't want to sound like i have it wrapped up. on the one hand you see the vice president talking about the strength of nato pushing back against russia. you have material moving into the nato nations threatened. the u.s. putting its money where its mouth is in terms of supporting countries that might feel threatened by russia. you have the pentagon discussing army ukrainians against russians in ukraine. but then you have the president's remarks on russia which are completely at odds with all of that part of the administration. here you have a similar thing. you see the way in which they are working on the diplomatic track with north korea. they are working at the u.n. it seems to be within the groups -- groovees of the normal foreign-policy approach, and then you have the president's rhetoric.

it is hard to know if it is a split between the president and his team or whether there is more behind the president's remarks in terms of strategy. charlie: where does tax reform stand? paul ryan says tax reform will be easier than health care. having covered lots of tax reform and spent a lot of time with dave camp and max baucus, they worked for five years and tax reform. the problem with tax reform is a couple of things. it is very hard to pay for if you want to do it in the way the president wants to. the president is following the same pattern he did with health care, promising the moon. huge tax reductions and growth and it will add up. that is what he did with health care. it will cost less, you get to see her doctor. they were not able to fulfill

those promises. this is setting up the same way. there are swarms of lobbyists engaged in the tax question trying to get their pieces of the legislation put in. everybody wants to pass tax reform. it is just very hard to do. it cannot be done at the levels the president wants in terms of cutting the corporate rate as much as he wants because it costs so much money. trillions of dollars more with the rates he wants. you have to fill that up with andcuts -- spending cuts, congress is not going to support those. they will go for it, but it will not be as easy as everyone is saying which breaks the rule you are supposed to underpromise and overdeliver. charlie: does this put the president against republican orthodoxy? in thee told the story "wall street journal" about how he was talking to a friend, bob

kraft -- charlie: a billionaire friend. john: the owner of the patriots who said we are taxed too much. don't worry about taxing the rich. president tsai i agree with him -- the president said i agree with him. basically, tax the rich to pay for the middle class to put it in clumsy terms. that is not traditional republican orthodoxy. it is not paul ryan's view at all. it would be one of those fascinating things the president might do. fascinating in terms of making the traditional mold. but we don't know. he just said that in one interview in that slightly off way so we-- offhand will see. if you were continue down the -- if he were to continue down that road, it would be breaking with republican orthodoxy.

way of looking's at this talking about managing up and down. say here iseems to the way this place should operate. beenrms of leaks, it has quite leaky since reince priebus left. some are with respect to a charming master -- h.r. mcmaster. there is a russia-tinged element. on social media, attacks on mcmaster which seem coordinated and have some similarities to the kind of coordinated attacks before the election. you have that going on. you have the leaks of the transcripts last week. there is a sense in the white house that things are moving more smoothly in terms of managing down.

in terms of managing up, the president's twitter feed was more relaxed for a while. now it is back on its normal course. thursday, hes on almost in terms of not being dramatic. on the other hand, he said he was fine with vladimir putin kicking 755 u.s. personnel out of russia. he said it will help us cut the payroll. i don't think that is true, they stay on the payroll. second of all, that was sort of flippant and off script. no drama in one place that dramatic in another place. charlie: thank you for joining us tonight. we will be right back. stay with us. ♪

♪ carol and her husband are going to new york next month. we were hoping you could recommend a show for them to see while they are there. >> definitely. what sort of shows are you into? >> we heard "jersey boys" is good. >> that is a musical. that is not what i am into. >> what are you into? >> dialogues that explore the human condition.

great things are few and far between. theater is in a troubled state in america right now. most things are trash. you would be surprised at who they allow to do shows on broadway. "cats" just opened and it is supposed to be good. >> i have heard good things about that one. great, thanks. charlie: jessica williams is here. she was hired as a correspondent on "the daily show" when she was just a 22-year-old college student. she created many popular pieces lgbtq for sexism, and that program. she is the cohost of the popular comedy podcast. this summer, she stars in the netflix film "the incredible jessica james." she plays a struggling playwright trying to get over her ex-boyfriend. "writing" describes her performance as a force of nature.

here is the trailer. >> ♪ >> i am tall and pretty. i am smart. obviously, i will have many great loves in my life. i be offended? >> i was hoping it would help me get over this guy. >> i'm getting a lot of inquiries regarding your status. >> my raw feminine energy. >> do you have more than one vibrator? >> has one man ever fulfilled all of your needs? >> the incredible jessica james. >> ♪ >> i am 25 and in this weird transitional phase. >> i need to tell you how i feel. >> fine. how do you feel?

>> i don't know. >> ♪ subverting the patriarchal paradigm. it is never too soon to start questioning. the system we are all prisoner to? >> i am not prisoner to any system. you are a very complicated person. >> i know. sorry. >> you never need to apologize for that. there are so many other things you could apologize for. [laughter] >> ♪ realize my feelings were not as valid as yours. >> i really like it. >> of course you do. everybody does. i am freaking dope. what is your name? charlie: welcome. >> thank you so much. i'm excited to be here.

this is legendary for me. when i look back on my life, i will think about this. thank you. i said why not come over here? you said, where? >> i was already nervous about doing "colbert." they were like, charlie wants to say hi. i appreciate that. why? charlie: you know j.k. rowling. for your birthday, you went to see j.k. rowling. >> i did. we have the same birthday. i've been trying to do this thing where i go, can i come? my best friend and i have been doing it, sort of putting yourself out there. usually you find people will be like, sure. when i was hanging out with her a few weeks ago, she was like i'm celebrating my birthday with my family. i was like, can i come? she was like, sure. it was really amazing. charlie: did you read all of her

books? >> i have been reading her for so long. i feel connected to her work. but also, i just like hanging out with her. i think she likes hanging out with me. charlie: when you hang out, what do you do? >> we talk. charlie: go to bars, sit in fancy homes, go to dinner? go out on dates together? >> we eat and have cocktails and talk. we just really enjoy talking to each other which is really nice. now i am embarrassed about my friendships. charlie: we don't want to embarrass you. her,is interesting about she has been at this table a couple of times, it is how much rejection she got before she got a bestseller. how many people turned her down who look at themselves now and say, am i an idiot? why couldn't i have recognized

it? that is part of the reason why i find her so inspiring because of everything she went through even before she started writing potter. she is a genuine inspiration. i think she is an amazing person a look at as an example is woman, mom, wife, and all those things. it is amazing how she puts everything together. charlie: she is beginning to express some of her political opinions. >> her and everybody else. ♪ whoooo.

you're searching for something. like the perfect deal... ...on the perfect hotel. so wouldn't it be perfect if... ....there was a single site... ...where you could find the... ...right hotel for you at the best price? there is. because tripadvisor now compares... ...prices from over 200 booking... ...sites ...to save you up to 30%... ...on the hotel you want. trust this bird's words. tripadvisor. the latest reviews. the lowest prices.

charlie: it could not be better view now, could it? >> no, i don't think so. i am really waiting for the other foot to drop. i feel like with the incredible jessica james comey out, with my bunch ofwe are doing a each beer specials i am really excited about. my career is really starting to i was notn a way expecting in my wildest dreams. you were growing up, did you have a role model? >> yeah, i had a few. growing up, i think there is two

different types of grandma's. a milk and cookies grandma and a cigarettes type of grandma. totally. and she the latter, loved late-night and snl and mad tv and adult swim, and she watched a lot of conan stuff, and i got to see that early on. later in life, she became really obese. she was diabetic. she watched tv all day. me, this person is watching tv and that is something that makes her happy then this is a valid medium. it can help people be a little less lonely. i figured out very early on i really liked to be witty, so yeah. and you i wanted to be an actress. i had seen some of comedy in early age. charlie: what did you do?

playsid a lot of school when i was 14 or 15 because i grew up in l.a.. i started auditioning and i remember, for one of my auditions, i ended up looking at a tv show called just for kicks. it was about four girls on the soccer team. we shot one season of that and then we got canceled. i was devastated. i was 15 and a half. trash."ke "my life is totally. then i went back to school and i auditioned for my school's improv team. they had this thing called comedy sports. it is competitive improv like "whose line is it anyway?" i did one of the worst scenes ever. i was astronaut who had an afro on the moon, and my afro got cut

off and at the decedent, i was naw," but i was like 16 years old, so that was good for me. i did a lot of improv. say "in actors will college, i tried this because i wanted to meet women." on stage, they would say "i love this." people find certain sports they love because they went out for it and you say "i am for this." you do it well, too, you want to do it even more. >> anytime i had that sentiment of i want to try this because i , it to meet hot dudes has always been a nightmare. it never works. this feels bad. charlie: what is the best way to meet hot dudes? >> i don't know.

it is so crazy right now. charlie: it is hard because of how famous you have become? >> i am in a relationship right now -- "a.k.a. relationship." [laughter] relatsh.n a i had been on the daily show for a little bit. it was not like i could just beyond tinder. i was on for three days and i would get guys being like "i love you on the daily show." and i'm like "i mortified." i was on it for a little bit and quickly deleted it, but i would go through a cycle of being on it, deleting it, being on it, deleting it. charlie: when did you start acting? john: >> when i was 10 or 11. into really, really acting. i like disney and nickelodeon stars and i watched a show called "all that," a sketch

comedy show for kids. parents onnvinced my how to let me do acting classes as a kid and my parents were like "you are going to keep your grades up?" "yeah." " ok, you can do it." on the daily show, i threw myself into it. i did comedy sports. i tried to really put sketches when much as possible, and i got the job, i moved to new york, and i was really intimidated because i was 22, and i know how i auditioned for that show, i was just like, you know what, what is it about me? i'm 22 years old, black, a woman, i have all this raw energy. i'm trying to be the most myself i did not look up any of the other amazing correspondence. i did not look up samantha bee or oliver or why it. i just tried to be myself, so i

ended up -- charlie: i think that is the best thing to be. >> i am still learning it. to your authenticity own self. you own you are. >> i think people really respond to something that is truthful. sometimes, your truth is not the right fit for certain things, but once it finds its way, then people really get into it. charlie: most of the skits we saw you do, most of the time, you were doing something on location, was it created by you? was it your idea?or did it come from producers at the daily show? >> the daily show is such a machine. producers would throw stuff out and pitch it. john would throw stuff out. that is what we would do. catalog of work is just a mixture of all of the sort of amazing people that have worked on the show and everything that came together. charlie: do you grow simply by

doing it? do have the opportunity to almost everything. you do it and listen to people who are there with you and figure out at every test by participating with a group of talented people. >> i think it is the way to do it. just getting out there is the scariest thing, just going for it. and inow, i am writing have been spending a lot of time reading so much about writing, but a lot of the advice is "just do it. do the same. charlie: there is nothing harder than looking at a blank page. what you really have to do is put together the first sentence. that is how you do it. do you want to -- what kind of things do you want to write? >> i want to write scripts for me, my own show. i want to write more things for women and more things that give people of color a platform as

members of the lgbtq community. whatever int to -- do, i want to make sure it is a platform to help pull up women and people of color. charlie: do you feel like you are a woman of -- a woman empowered to do things for all the people you just said? >> yeah, sometimes. sometimes, i wake up and i feel i am the most powerful women on the planet. some days, i wake up and i'm like "what if today i stayed home and played the sims?" charlie: what? oh myoh my gosh -- >> gosh, it is incredible. to teach much trash you about. it is this computer game where basically, a bunch of little people, you can do a lot of world building. it is really fun. it is a nice way to steal control over an environment,

which i really enjoy. some days, i just let you play the sims and stay in. my relationship with power and feeling empowered is that it just adds and flows. charlie: is it all fun? >> like everything? like life? charlie: the success you have had any opportunity to do what you know you are good at. >> a lot of it is fun, but a lot of it is really stressful. yeah, everything is like that. everything comes together last minute. everyone has something to say. there is always some dude who is making it weird somehow, somewhere, and you are just like, ok, this does not feel great. then there are moments when the

director goes "action," and you feel like that was worth it, so it comes and it goes. one of my babies started when i robinson, this often stand up and comedian -- was working on a bit i was doing for the daily show. i knew about her because she was a black woman. she had a white boyfriend. charlie: a boyfriend is a bae? bae means before anyone else. if you are a mama's boy, your mom could be bae. she was a comedian. she had a white bae. i had just moved to new york for the daily show. i had internet stocks her. i knew who she was. anyway, "what was something

you always wanted to do?" i said "stand up." she said "you should come cohost my show with me." east and wew at ucb really clicked on stage. it was just fun and we both felt like this was incredible. so we kept doing that because we we loved doing it. we partnered with an studios, which was amazing. we partnered with them and we created this show. charlie: who gave it the name? >> we both did. don't know what the alternatives were, but we were like, let's do it. i would say we are to open. -- we are dope. dope can mean multiple things.

back in the day, it was a drug. charlie: what is the something else? >> it is just cool. we are cool. we are dope. you're dope. charlie: i'm dope. [laughter] >> pseudo-queens is phoebe and i hosting stand up story teller's and musicians. usually, these people are people of color, members of the lgbtq community and women. we always try to make sure those people are represented. as comedians and doctors, we are often supporting somebody else's narrative, so we want to give people that we think are talented and opportunity. charlie: success is doing good and well. doing good for other people, giving them a chance to do something. doing well for yourself. in that in power

obsessed celebrity talent you have that has brought you attention and using that attention, to have other people within your own community. >> it seems lame cannot do that, like a waste. theref making sure that is a of different types of people, sometimes you have to take a chance and pull people up with you. a would be a shame to get platform and not use that to help other people. that seems bananas to not do that. charlie: at this stage in your life, you feel more new york or l.a.? >> i grew up in the south bay. years.been here for five i don't know. berlie: you don't have to the one. you can do both. >> it is lame cannot choose a site -- lame to not choose a side. i will choose l.a. i don't want to walk out and

have people say "why didn't you stay?" when i was in-- l.a., people were walking around me. they were walking really slow, and i wanted to go "move." charlie: that would not happen in new york. >> i become a new york monster. [laughter] queens" haso dope been renewed. >> yes, we do that with nyc studio, with our podcast. am i breaking news here or -- as of maybe, live 1.5 hours ago. we are going to do 41-hour specials for hbo, so we are excited about that. those will be live taped. charlie: what is the most challenging and difficult for you? say the hardest

thing was the daily show. charlie: even though you had producers and other people? >> we would travel somewhere, probably the south and interview somebody in their living room or something like that which feels very different in the lot -- intimate and a lot of times, they would say things that were bananas. did they know they were bananas? >> no. i don't think people thought that they were not. forink a part of growing up me and learning about other people is the have a justification for everything. whether it makes sense to you or not, people in their minds have it neversoning, so came off that they didn't --

that they thought that what they were saying was crazy. charlie: and they don't think -- were in some places they do -- think that people are contemptuous of them for believing it? -- theyf think that we don't think there is a world where we don't agree with them. they think they are going to in some way, but it never really worked out like that. difficult because you're traveling to some of his home and interviewing them and it is really intense and they want to get ace pacific amount of information out of them. interviewing is hard. i don't know if you know this, charlie, but interviewing is hard. charlie: it has taken me a while to get it going. what about something like "send mail light live -- "saturday night live?" >> i'll think so. i would love to eventually -- my

dream is to be able to host. that is a dream. now, just because i want to work on my own show. they would be your mistakes. you make the decisions. it is control. >> it is all on me. that show is great. i really want to do my own show. charlie: what kinds of things do you want to create now that you have the leverage to get partners and people to give you an opportunity on that, whether it is hbo or netflix? did you create jessica? create jessicat james. i worked on jessica james with the writer and director, who is amazing, and we had done this movie two years before. he said something really nice when we were done. i was a supporting character in that. what i really loved working with you.

bunch before we pitched the idea of the incredible jessica james. said i'm thinking of the structure being like this. what are your thoughts? by the time we worked out a added me on as executive producer. i got a lot of creative input and i think that is what is so fun about the movie is you can see a lot of things like shia previous words -- she abbreviates words and children much like me, so i think -- jessica james feels like jessica williams, which is me. charlie: how did that work? you put her together and you said "this is me, so therefore i will make her like me?" >> i said i really want to create an authentic character ,nd i wanted her to feel whole so we pulled a lot of

inspiration from things i say. she and i are pretty indifferent -- are pretty different. >> you mentioned earlier? on tender, we matched. awesome. do youn you said -- remember that? >> i guess, i do. >> did you come here tonight expecting to bone? it is not going to happen. >> did i do something wrong? >> as soon as i walked in, you should my hand. >> what should i have done? >> you should have grabbed me by the shoulder and whispered something sexy in my ear like " go to the bathroom and take off your panties. i want to smell them. " >> you would have done that if i asked you? >> may be. there is a chance i would

have punched you in the d ing-a-ling. don't to therapy every week. i do. there. the best. i'm a new yorker. charlie: exactly. woody allen has made it famous. he is a therapy guy and you are a therapy girl. jessica: yes, that's me. charlie: what is a session like? you go in and say "this is what happened to me." jessica: yeah, kind of. i have a really cool therapist. and her name is heather. she is great. heather or dr. something? jessica: i call her heather. i promise you, she is really cool. i just talked to her about my week and anything that is kicking around if i had like a nightmare a few days before. i had this really crazy nightmare and she is like "tell me more." she cares. charlie: you describe it and she

can interpret it for you? how has it helped you? jessica: how? charlie: let me try. charlie:it helps you understand yourself, your motivations, and why you feel this way or that way about some experience in your life. is that part of it? jessica: absolutely. small and commence. i have never gone and regretted it. every time i go, i feel lighter than i did when i went in. think it has got to be very positive. even when i do not feel like going, which is half the time. office, i amher like i'm so happy i did that for myself. is an investment in me. i didn't go out in the world knowing a little bit more about myself and how to handle external situations outside of my control, which really is the reason i go to therapy.

how do i handle things that seem like they are out of my control is a big question. charlie: i think it makes you a cool woman. [laughter] charlie: "how can i handle life?" if i could get some help -- whatever gets you through the night. if you could find some way that some person or experience that helps you understand where you are, what you are, who you are, then that took a day. jessica: it is pretty priceless. it is amazing. charlie: and so are you. thank you for coming. jessica: are you kidding? this is amazing. charlie: will you come back? jessica: let me see if my schedule -- yes, of course. charlie: see you next time. ♪

>> all the more reason to say good night. >> i am a unicorn. ♪

got you outnumbered. the dinosaurs' extinction... don't listen to them. not appropriate. now i'm mashing these potatoes with my stick of butter... why don't you sit over here. find your awesome with the xfinity stream app. included with xfinity tv. more to stream to every screen.

anchor: president trump turns up the heat on china, taking the first set towards an investigation into intellectual property. yvonne: america's top general says diplomacy is top priority in korea. the bears are warding think could escalate out of control. betty: stock surged today. save havens retreated as markets take little chance of eminent -- buffett walked