♪ announcer: from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: we begin tonight with politics. in a rare moment of bipartisanship, president trump struck a deal with democratic congressional leaders on wednesday. they agreed to increase the debt ceiling and provide federal aid for victims of hurricane harvey. the deal keeps the government funded until december. of the deal, the president said this afternoon, i think we will have a different relationship than we have been watching over the next number of years. joining me from washington, damian paletta, a white house

reporter for the "washington post." margaret talev, a senior analyst for bloomberg and cnn. with me in new york is dan senor. i'm pleased to have all of them here to talk about this. tell me what happened. >> it was a huge meeting for the president. he had a really rough first seven or eight months. now he goes into september where there were a lot of chips stacked against him. he had to reach a deal to fund the government, avoid a shutdown, get money for the recovery of hurricane harvey, and convince lawmakers to extend the debt ceiling. this is a debt ceiling he repeatedly, before he was president, said should not be raised. he goes into this meeting with republican leaders and democratic leaders. he walks out cutting a deal with nancy pelosi and chuck schumer. not only do they agree to extend the debt ceiling into early

december and fund the government until then, but he makes a gentleman's agreement with chuck schumer to consider forever getting rid of the debt ceiling votes that have plagued congress since the 1990's. it would remove the requirements every year or two where congress agreed to raise the borrowing limit. it is something a lot have said needs to be there to prevent the government from spending too much money and here he is talking with chuck schumer about potentially getting rid of the debt ceiling forever. >> president trump is not an establishment republican. this might have been a gesture of bipartisanship. it might have been an elbow to the two republicans he is the most frustrated with, mitch mcconnell and paul ryan. it may be testing the waters for internal republican politics to see if either of them could stop him. i think it is going to take at least until december to get a better sense of what is going on.

charlie: there you go. there is a sense of growing tension between the president and republican leadership. >> yeah. one thing we knew from the election is candidate trump ran against both parties. we tend to think about him as a republican. he was completely against republican plans to reform medicare. he talked tough about extreme vetting of muslims and going after muslim terrorists, but he was critical of republican foreign-policy over the last couple of decades. there was this third wave message to his campaign. i think this reflects, which is not a real independent third-way governing strategy, it is situational governing. it is in the moment. i can't get health care reform passed, we will cut a deal with the democrats. it is not clear what he is getting beyond a few good news cycles. i do not think this helps president trump in the long run. he did not get anything for it.

it is very damaging to elected republican officials. charlie: what do republican officials want him to do? >> they wanted him to force the democrats, to use the leverage they had, to vote for an extension of the debt ceiling that went past the next election, went past november of 2018. instead, by doing the short-term debt ceiling extension, that means on the eve of the midterm elections when the republicans will be fighting for their lives we will go through all of this again. democrats are giddy. one democrat official i spoke to today started talking about getting all sorts of funding. we are going to use all our leverage on the eve of the election because republicans will be terrified of the government shutting down as they are heading into midterms. the closer you get to the midterms and you have this sort of showdown, the worse it is for

republicans which is why republican leaders wanted to get past november of 2018. charlie: what are they think about daca and what happened? >> same thing. jeff sessions gave this strong statement about daca. and then the president seemed to be walking it back a little bit. if congress cannot deal with it, i will. apparently today, nancy pelosi called the president and he put out a tweet saying no one will get hurt who is affected by daca in the next six months even though the justice department memo contradicts that. it does not see my grand strategy. this is all situational short-termism. charlie: can you imagine the president is calling up, responding to a call from the former speaker of the house, nancy pelosi? >> i was alarmed by that.

i could not believe it happened. if you watch what has happened over the past few weeks, he has been playing political footsie with democrats. he went to missouri and gave the speech about tax reform. he pulled his punches on claire mccaskill saying he hopes he can work with her on tax reform. she put out a positive statement about it. he goes to north dakota and gives a speech about tax reform and brings the democrat senator up on the stage with him and says nice things about her. she is up for reelection. senator joe manchin has had nice things to say about tax reform. maybe there is a message or maybe he is careening from one impulsive decision to the next. it is hard to tell. if he wants a legacy issue, these tax cuts are his best chance. by playing these games with democrats, trying to bring some of them in, maybe his opening himself up for a deal in a few months. charlie: could that be possible, margaret? >> i think what the president was doing was trading a tactical gain now for a strategic question mark later.

talking to republicans today trying to make lemonade out of what the president left for them yesterday, they say number one, the ability to pass this quickly is good to get today's vote done. the debt ceiling vote could be dragged into next year. it makes things more complicated down the line. i don't think chuck and nancy -- charlie: best friends. >> i don't think they have it made were there is any trust at all. but i think they are thinking now we have a wedge we did not have a few days ago. they've been flummoxed by their own leadership vacuum and difficulty of trying to govern as a minority in both chambers. now they think they have found some kind of window. republicans i talked to think it is not as bad as yesterday. it is more complicated.

the real question is, is this the prelude to a fight against the existing leadership structure from a president who ran against the establishment or is it just trying to get from one week to the next, a clear path to the next vote, without repercussions for the stock market? >> i agree with margaret. i don't think this jeopardizes tax reform. i think republicans can still get tax reform passed early next year. if they do, that may eclipse all the angst around this deal and republicans could head into the midterms in a strong position having passed tax reform on the one hand. on the other hand, if we have another showdown over the debt

ceiling and conservatives put all sorts of demands that are untenable for the republican leadership to work out with the democratic leadership, there is a messy this goal cliff situation. it will hurt republican chances in the midterms. if the republicans come back to congress in january of 2019 in a minority position, it is bad news for donald trump. as much as the president is buddy-buddy with nancy and chuck, nancy and chuck with subpoena power, and the majority in the house looking to breathe down the throat of this administration, they will have a lot more capacity to do that than they do now. charlie: i spoke to steve bannon for a "60 minutes" piece this weekend. we knew a little bit about this. he told me conservative groups, including the leader of the

freedom caucus, are beating a path to his door and sitting and talking with him about how they can find some common ground. >> it is against the leadership. however, there was reporting in the "washington post" today about how people are talking about who could be a challenger to speaker ryan if there were to be a revolt. the two names "the post" managed to come up with were rick santorum and newt gingrich. these are two individuals who have not served in congress for over a decade. the idea that no names could surface from inside the conference -- highly unlikely. charlie: a former senator and a

former speaker. >> the republican leadership in the house has a lot of problems. but the goodwill and close relations speaker ryan has with most of the caucuses gives him a lot of running room. the fact he never really hunted for this job, never really wanted this job, he said i'm happy to just be chairman of the ways and means committee. the fact he really does not want it is him a lot of running room. i think we are in a challenging environment. your interview with steve bannon will reveal the revolt brewing. i think this deal they reached yesterday is problematic. i don't think it results in some sort of coup because i do not think there is anyone to step in. charlie: who is more likely to win the house in 2018? what i think republicans are more likely to win, but they will probably lose seats. the majority will probably be more narrow.

a lot can change. we will see what happens with the mueller investigation. we will see what happens with the fiscal cliff situation. things can change dramatically. right now, i say republicans hang on. charlie: what is happening with tax reform? >> there will be a hearing next week in the senate. we are hearing a lot of happy talk out of the white house and republican negotiators on this. i think they are making progress. obviously, they are far apart. we heard speaker ryan say this morning he wants to -- he envisions the corporate tax rate in the mid-20's where president trump has said he wants it down to 15%. right now, it is 35%. that is a big difference. i guess you could say president trump is maybe trying to do a real estate deal and overshooting in his first offer so we can come back to a place where members can agree. there are a lot of tricky parts of tax reform.

if you just cut tax rates, it creates a huge hole in the deficit and debt. it is hard to find tax breaks you can eliminate to pay for those because every tax break has some industry in washington that will zealously protect it. they have not gotten to that part yet. they have not found a way to claw back the trillions of dollars they plan on cutting. when they make progress on that and get republicans, if they can go into the midterms telling voters they got a big tax cut they can deliver, that could energize a lot of votes. charlie: margaret, when you look at this president how he is doing, here he is a man with an approval rating in the 30's at war with some of his republican colleagues. conflict within his staff. a huge challenge from north korea.

what do we expect in the fall? >> look, this is not an easy situation. it is a situation he has managed to govern from so far because within that base his support is still strong and because republicans control both chambers of congress. the president is playing with fire to the extent if he really wants a leadership by in his own party, the only way it works for him is if he retains control of both chambers of congress. north korea is a very difficult situation. it is a unifying situation in that both sides of the aisle want to calm things down and move prudently. the president has a lot of challenges overseas and at home. he is trying to thread a tricky

needle to do the change he campaigned on without alienating that magic mix of the people he needs to protect him politically. charlie: thank you so much. good to see you. we will be back in a moment. stay with us. ♪

♪ charlie: jake gyllenhaal is here. the academy award nominated actor is known for his range and versatility in theater and film. his movies include "brokeback

mountain" and "nightcrawler." his new movie is called "stronger." it tells the story of the man who lost both legs in the boston marathon bombing. here is a look at the trailer. >> listen up. this young lady is running the marathon for women's hospital. donate to a good cause. [applause] >> i'm going to be there at the finish line. i'm going to make a big sign for you. >> doesn't show up for anything. and then he shows up. >> ♪ >> there was an explosion. your legs are gone, bro. >> ♪ >> i can't do this. i can't do it.

>> you have three appointments. >> you just have to show up. >> i showed up for you! >> you remind me of my son. he died. helping you made me feel like i helped my son. and for that, i am grateful. >> ♪ >> ♪ through the perilous fight ♪ >> we showed the world they cannot break us no matter what they do. >> in the hospital, i wanted to give up. >> ♪ we will rise up >> boston strong. >> and now? i just want to live. >> ♪ rise up >> i want people to see how

amazing life is. >> i want people to see how >> ♪ rise up >> i'm going to walk with you again someday. >> ♪ charlie: in addition to starring in the film, he also produced it through his new company. he is a friend of this program and i am always pleased to see him. welcome. tell me about how this came about. jake: it has been a long, circuitous journey. it first came to me as an actor. it was an adaptation of a book written by jeff bauman, who i play in the movie. he wrote a book very quickly after the event of his recovery. it was made into a script by a wonderful producer named tom lieberman.

he gave it to me as an actor. as these journeys go, the making of the movie was a difficult one, and getting financing. we joined forces with his company and my company. i brought it to the people who financed my company, and the movie came into being. charlie: what is it about? jake: you know, i think it is about moving through the unfathomable. getting through to a place that seemed like you could never get to, that you would never -- that thing i was always taught when i went to church or temple, because i was raised in both ways, that narrow passageway. that passage that is so narrow you don't know if you will ever get through it, but somehow you get into what you can say is the

promised land in one way or another. that is what jeff has done with his life, and that is what the movie is about. charlie: how was he able to do it? jake: i think it was a number of communities. the community of boston, the city of boston. the most important, his girlfriend and wife. they have now split up. his partner who is the mother of his daughter and one of the great loves of his life. and the two of them together, she was running in the marathon and he was there. they had broken up. and he was there to try to get back together with her. he made the sign and was standing there at the finish line. charlie: she looks back. jake: she was in reality a bit further away from the finish line. she never finished the race that year. when we were filming in boston at the time, we were filming during marathon again. erin finished the marathon, and jeff met her there for the first time she finished the marathon.

that was a beautiful moment. it is really her and him, the story of the two of them and how they got through it. charlie: are they together now? jake: they are not. they have a daughter they are raising. charlie: they were married and divorced. jake: they have a beautiful daughter, nora. they are with each other all the time. jeff has been, as he will say in his own words, 13 months sober to this day. he has been through a lot of things, jeff, a lot. it was not just the event. a lot of people see or hear about the story and think about the event. we tend to move towards that. when in truth, it is really everything that happens after that, but i think we tend to focus on the people who have done this horrific crime and the moment itself. and not very often do we stay with the people who are the survivors who get through it. and jeff's story is incredible. charlie: when i saw it, you know what it reminded me of?

it made me think about this happened at the boston marathon. there were people like jeff at that event. we know some of the stories. other stories we don't know. american men and women in the armed services in iraq and afghanistan are facing this kind of thing all the time. all the time. jake: yes. charlie: ongoing. the longest war in one case. jake: yes.

i think also what i realized through this film, and i don't know if it is necessarily -- it is a larger group than even that. what this inspires, with the story seems to inspire is every single person story of struggle. i think particularly for this country now, the idea of being able to move through into a space of hope is what jeff gives us. i think all of those men and women in the military who have

either served or been injured or are getting through, they are a constant inspiration in the same way. i think it is bigger than that. it is all of us. every person has a story, a story of struggle. jeff somehow gives them hope. charlie: it is not just recovering from losing your legs. whether it is an addiction or whether it is failure in life. jake: when this trailer came out, i went down this strange rabbit hole. i love this movie so much. it came out and there are these funny things where people watch the trailer and videotape themselves watching trailers now.

you can look on youtube. you can go down a legitimate rabbit hole. i went down it one night. the stories that came from people watching at the end of this trailer, they were not just stories of people who have suffered unspeakable things like jeff did but people who said my mother suffered from m.s. when i see the thing that says "strength defines us," that makes me think that is what we say every day. i think that is what jeff says. if i am ok, you can be ok, too. charlie: did you spend a lot of time with him? jake: tons of time. six to eight months before we started shooting. when we started shooting, he was not as much there. that was an interesting process. we texted every day and talked on the phone but he did not come to the set as often. he came one day when we were shooting at td garden for the game. all of the questions i had to ask you were asked before and did we texted. now we are very good friends. we talk every day. charlie: a quick technical question, how do you shoot a man without legs? jake: that is another community. the irony of a community that in reality brought jeff through these things is in the fictional world a community of people working together to make this look real.

and we have in certain circumstances, we have holes in the floor. we have amazing prosthetic makeup artists who took molds of my legs and synthetically removed the ends of them. i wear a kind of biking shorts they rested on top of. sometimes i would tuck my knees under the wheelchair and wear green socks so they could remove them. sometimes i was sitting with my legs straight out with green socks talking. there are so many different ways. it is a mixture of things in camera and visual effects. charlie: did you feel stronger because you witnessed this man's experience? jake: i will never be the same after making this movie. this movie has changed me in ways i cannot really even put into words. there is not a moment when i feel what i would consider physical pain that i do not think about jeff. and i think -- charlie: he speaks to you at that moment? jake: every moment. stupid things like you stub your toe and make a noise, and you think, come on, man. [laughter] charlie: it reminds you how you have no reason to complain. jake: not ever.

i am of the opinion that pain is relative, i really am. but jeff made me rethink that in a lot of ways. charlie: is this production company something you will put in high gear? jake: oh, yeah, we are in high gear. we have a lot of projects in development in movies, television, and on stage. i have an incredible producing partner who is a fierce woman an incredible partner. we are full steam ahead. charlie: have you ever made a movie with your sister? jake: we did a little. she played a part in "donnie darko" as a favor. we have not worked together since then. charlie: would you like to? jake: i would love to. she is pretty good. i would love to be on stage with her. charlie: even better. jake: i would love to be on stage with her because i think it would mean we would be home if we did it in new york. i know the organisms we are and how we love to bring our relationship nightly onto the stage and work it out.

charlie: the relationship? jake: we are brother and sister. it is complicated. charlie: are you competitive or are you so loving -- jake: we have been doing it for a long time. charlie: being brother and sister? jake: the acting part we have been doing a long time. charlie: you are in the same game. jake: yeah, i think we have been competitive in the past. i think maturity has brought us to a place where it seems absurd. none of that really matters. i think we are at a place now having two children that our family is the most important thing to us. but i think we have, like any brother and sister, kate deep, deep love. i had dinner with her last night in the midst of her press whirlwind for her show she is doing. i don't think i've had a better

dinner in maybe a decade that i had with my sister last night. charlie: why? jake: because i don't believe either of us -- i won't say i'm afraid of the truth -- but we can talk honestly about each other, about everything. charlie: that's a great feeling. jake: it's an amazing feeling. charlie: how do you feel about acting? [laughter] one of my favorite newspapers, "the guardian," you say to them, "how hard can acting be coming but the behavior of human character is an art to -- to be discovered and experiment with pickup -- with." jake: was that really need? i have a very -- really me? i have a very complicated relationship with it because it

is pretend. we pretend so we can get closer to the truth. it is just this profound contradiction. but i believe in the craft of what i do as a very serious thing. a lot of people think of it as a bit absurd. i also think it is a bit absurd because it is playful and it has a real sense an opportunity for real play, where your imagination can just be released into never-ending choices, but i really, truly believe in the craft. there are so many actors that i admire who have mastered the craft or are on their way to mastering the craft, and i believe it is a lifelong journey. how i feel about it, it changes all the time. charlie: i am sitting here for the five years and talked to almost everyone, and there are certain actors that you know

have this sense of -- they don't talk about it as much -- but it is that the appreciation of -- that deep depreciation of -- that deep appreciation of the craft. at the core is the acting of it. certainly will do it because they want the control and they like to build to craft and sculpt, all of those things i'm sure you feel, but the core of an actor -- jake: it is funny you say that. i've never really truly thought of myself as that.

maybe being a younger sibling, i have always thought of my sibling as the actor. i owe credit to her for my career because i don't the guy would have -- because i don't think i would have acted if not for watching her. that is the moment where i think -- i am terrified that i am having too much fun. charlie: what is the fun of it? jake: it is a demand on your mind.

there are so many aspects of it. i just did a musical on broadway this past winter, and i found a lot more comfort doing singing and having an orchestra onstage with me every night than i did being alone on stage as an actor without any music. you are never really alone when you have the orchestra with you up there. i think the thrill of it is just this -- the actors i love our people who take genuine risks and who fail. those are the ones i love. i think being on stage, you feel that opportunity for failure and success every single night in a way you can't feel anywhere else. i think that thrill for me, along with the rehearsal process, the amount of preparation -- preparation is the most fun for me.

you get to do it alone before anything is to saying about it. charlie: the whole process of bringing it together and fashioning it, that is not work, so to speak. that is the challenge -- of -- you sit down and see whether you can make something out of what you have imagined as possible. it is a two-way street. jake: i find when i speak to you the same thing you feel when you're working with somebody who is like a master at their craft. there is an exchange where you only make people better. sometimes people probably cower

in here. not to say that there's not a part of me that feel that way, too. you feel an exchange of energy and the ideas start to bubble up and you start to connect to that and somewhere else, and that is a joy. that is the joy of it, is the exchange of feeling and ideas. when you're doing it in a moment where you're not really quite sure, i think the thrill there is unlike any other. it is where i think i want to be. most of the time i think, i'm an actor, it's kind of crazy. charlie: lovely to have you here. jake: thank you to be here. -- thank you for having me. charlie: we will be right back after this. ♪

♪ charlie: sheryl crow is here. her hit songs include "all i want to do," "soak up the sun," and her new album is called "be myself." rolling stone calls it her "toughest and best in a decade."

>> ♪ let's just agree to disagree we on the rest baby, if you care if you really care won't you meet me halfway there? want you meet me halfway there? ♪ charlie: do you know how long it's been since you are here at this table? guest: 20 years, oh my goodness. i can't believe that. i remember telling you this was my favorite talk show. i love it. you always keep it real and interesting. charlie: there was a sense in terms of "be myself" of a woman looking back. sheryl: that's exactly right.

many times on stage i have talked about "every day is a winding road," which was out 23 years ago, a younger person looking at the road ahead. there's a lot of looking back at the road of traveled on this record. charlie: to the extent of listening to all of the great songs that you have written and performed. sheryl: i revisited some of it because i wanted to remember the spirit of some of the early stuff and how we got to that place that felt liberated. i really feel like this record is a celebration of liberation from being in the world of competitive radio commerciality. there is something great about being my age.

charlie: i agree with that. sheryl: there's some things that aren't great about being my age. [laughter] charlie: but there is something. if you can appreciate it and you have the life that allows you to enjoy it. sheryl: i've had some real low moments, and all those in some ways have carved out the space for the joyful moments. i think all that stuff was freely talking about it on this record. charlie: when "rolling stone" says "the toughest and best in a decade," what do you think they mean? sheryl: it is hard to say. i do think there is a toughness about it and the fact that it is a return to the way i used to make records, which is just a couple of us in a room, some drum grooves, me on bass. we really get to the heart of

it. there's not a lot of dressing in this record. it is very in-your-face. we really i think tackled a lot of big themes. charlie: like what? sheryl: i am raising two little boys. this. of our -- this period of our evolution as humans on this planet, there are so many things able training our little people's mines and informing them about who they are. when you consider that the internet is just as dangerous place you have to try to protect them from, cell phones and social media are constantly telling them what is likeable

and awesome. it is just the wild west. for me as an artist, i get to sit back and talk about what that is to me, what that feels like as a parent and as an american, particularly during the selection. a lot of what happened in the election informed what is on the record. "halfway there," the first song we put out, really addressed the loss of civility in our dialogue. it really begs the question, is there no way to agree to disagree? it kind of started out as -- i am a citizen of nashville, where there is this growing liberal community that is now living alongside a very well-established conservative community -- and yet there are certain things in nashville that we all come together in agreement on.

fund raising for charities, taking care of people who need help. there are just certain things that there are no parties. it is very nonpartisan. there are lots of things people disagree with in nashville, but it hasn't reached the kind of its reality dialogue that i saw -- kind of century alec -- the kind of vitriolic dialogue that i saw during the campaign. i'm just one person. i just get the opportunity but a pen on a pad and rotate and sing it. charlie: did you have a sense of urgency making this? sheryl: i had a real sense of urgency and -- i don't know if i have ever gone into making record where i felt like i couldn't write it fast enough. i would start playing and verses would come out in full chunks. in 25 or 30 years of writing, that has never been the norm, but there is a lot going on. what a great opportunity to be an artist and be able to try to give voice to what so many people around are discussing. charlie: how do you and jeff wright? -- and jeff write? sheryl: our first record was the

product of him having a teenage boy and me having a pre-teenage boy with cell phones and kids formulating their self-worth by what they read on texts from other kids, this loss of you can say anything that you want and not have an immediate reaction. this song kind of says i am ok with being in the dark, as in on social media. a lot of it just began from conversations. charlie: just the two of you sitting. sheryl: saying, this is what happened. can you imagine how hard it is being a teenager growing up with that added pressure?

charlie: your new album has a lot of duets. sheryl: kris kristofferson, even something was johnny cash, song he recorded three months before he passed. his family has lovingly about me -- lovingly allowed me to take that record our version of it. we've got keith richards and don henley, one of my first employers, and stevie nicks. charlie: have you do that? -- how do you do that cosmic sheryl: yousef: -- how do you do that? sheryl: it depends. i called keith and asked him if he could record. with don, i mailed and said he was a huge influence on my life and asked if he could do that. same with stevie. there are certain people i feel like have made such a huge impression on my life. charlie: you moved to nashville because of kids or career?

sheryl: i was diagnosed with breast cancer, and my personal life and kind of falling apart. for was in nashville and near nashville, and i thought it is time to put down roots, and i did. soon thereafter, wyatt came along, and i felt that it was home. charlie: how are you today? sheryl: i am great. i have two scrumptious boys and a network of friends. charlie: you have said somewhere that you are happy in the dark. sheryl: i do love not having a relationship with my cell phone. i am one of the few people that i can say that has gone through the process of weaning myself off of it. i don't love having to use my personal life as the byproduct of promotion. i do a little bit of it as far as social media is concerned, things that i am interested in, but i would prefer my kids have memories of me not always on my phone. charlie: and memories of you having conversations with them.

sheryl: i don't want to miss out. we were in florida recently, and it was a full moon and it was not a clock. we were out hunting crabs and i said, look around. you got to remember this. the full moon, the option. -- the ocean. i don't want to miss it. charlie: what would you change about your life today? sheryl: i don't think i would really change anything. charlie: pretty much have got it where you want it. sheryl: obviously there's lots of things i would change as far as the environment is concerned, but i feel like i am more awake than i have ever been and marketing did to my roots -- more awake than i have ever been

and more in connection to my roots. there are many things i would love to change in regards to the music industry and arts in general. i would love to encourage young artists coming out to have the massive fan bases they have to remember the power of their words and to remember that music still does hold the power to change molecules. it is a rare opportunity to have so many people wanting you to express how they feel. there's a lot of opportunity there to write about something. charlie: as you look back -- you have called this a grown-up record. sheryl: like i said, i really felt like in the last 10 years that writing has been a thing of joy for me, and not connected to commerciality or radio at all. what is happening at radio predominantly is geared towards

the demographic of the 13 to 26-year-olds. it is liberating to not have to try to write for that age group. i think the things i am loving and hating right now are probably more for people my age. charlie: things that your loving as that you want to talk about? sheryl: yeah. it is different as i am raising kids and you are not in that point in your life. you're going to have different viewpoints and write a different kind of thing. charlie: of all the things you have written, what has come closest to you? sheryl: that is a really good question. i don't know about of all the things i have written, but i could safely say that "long way back" on this record i think has encapsulated my journey and

where i am at now, and in a way that is encouraging to people who are still trying to figure it out. i am lucky -- charlie: because you have survived or because you prevailed? sheryl: i think because i stuck it out. the other great thing about the journey i've had, there is a story that we all tell ourselves about the way our life is supposed to look. there was a story for years i told myself about what was supposed to happen. you get married, you have kids, all that sort of thing. i really learned through my journey that the story you tell yourself about how things are supposed to be really limits your life. just two words, thank you, can

really manifest unbelievable things. thank you for infinite possibilities of things i don't even know. that has really been my mantra. charlie: did having kids affect your career at all? sheryl: yeah, in every way. charlie: you did to her as much, or --? -- you didn't tour as much, or --? sheryl: my second son, i got a call when i was on "jimmy fallon," he got his first steps while i was in the green room. i got a call that a baby was born while i was on jimmy fallon. they asked if i was interested, and i said absolutely. a few hours later we went and picked him up. charlie: what age is mark -- what age? sheryl: just born, two or three days. wyatt basically got a little brother for his birthday. he took his first steps in the green room of ellen degeneres. we are really close knit, and we have a packed i am never gone -- we have a pact i am never gone more than two nights.

otherwise they are with me. i think the way it has changed the most is that i am enjoying making records and recording during school hours, which is not very rock 'n roll, but we have loved making this record between 8:30 and 5:30. charlie: do you want to tw -- do you want to tour? sheryl: we have been touring with willie nelson, his kids who are incredible as well, the avon brothers, -- the avett brothers, margo price, van morrison, bob dylan -- he is just at the height of his game. it has been a remarkable summer.

charlie: so all of you are performing? sheryl: it is like a traveling circus. i said, can you believe you are still doing this? you have this tour going for years and years and you are still doing it, and there are still kids in your backstage parking lot. it is just incredible he has kept this going. he's the architect and the teacher. he's just incredible. charlie: how much success -- much success with this. sheryl: thank you. charlie: thank you for joining

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