carol: welcome to "bloomberg businessweek." julia: we're inside the headquarters in new york. carol: more details about the crisis in puerto rico. julia: steve bannon's crusade in china. carol: what it is like living next to america's number one -- ♪ carol: we are with the editor in chief megan murphy. in opening remarks you look at puerto rico. what a year it is in between the

bankruptcy, devastation by the hurricane. it is far from over. people cannot even find food to eat. megan: it is a true humanitarian crisis. when it was just the debt crisis and the bankruptcy of puerto rico or the electrical grid or the bankruptcy of what was going to happen with this mass exodus, now people are without water and food and electricity. we are still having the kind of politicking we are seeing in the u.s. over it. we are hopeful, both at businessweek and bloomberg that by calling attention to it that hopefully, perhaps for once in recent times we would wade through the washington quagmire and get help down there. julia: you get a sense of the real devastation of the country. megan: think about that. think about being in the dark.

what if you have medicine that is to be refrigerated? your diabetes patient getting access to clean water in puerto rico. it is crazy. but we have is a country that was so badly affected by an exodus over the years, they need to repay the debt they owe, which are massive. looking at the pictures now, it is a long way away. carol: with the bankruptcy it was so much work to get anybody to take notice in terms of congress and washington to take care of the situation. i feel it is continuing even with the hurricane. megan: there is a shout out to antonio weiss, who made it his personal mission to secure a solution for puerto rico in congress that would enable them to go to try to create a stable

plan. now it has been knocked backwards so hard by hurricane maria and irma. facing devastation on a scale you normally read about in third world country. this is a u.s. territory. these are americans and we should be supporting them. these pictures tell all the story. unless you have an urgent relief effort, it could get worse. julia: the cover story is steve bannon. we were questioning what he would do outside the white house. he has not gone quietly. megan: i think this week we have seen not a surprise in terms of alabama. we should set the scene for people, but this is a race bannon supported a conservative firebrand. roy moore would rather step down to enforce a ruling for legal gay marriage. he has won the senate runoff

against luther strange who was supported by trump. this pitted trump versus bannon. it pitted the establishment wing of the republican party versus the antiestablishment wing. roy moore won with a resounding victory. he will go into a challenge of the democratic opponent and he will likely win. you are still seeing a fundamental rupture in the republican party which is yet to play out. mitch mcconnell and trump, the establishment continues to lose momentum. carol: he is now going after china. i'm not going to give it all away. enter bannon. we have more on this story from the editor of the story, matthew phillips. matt: the cover is looking at what influence he still has outside the white house and if he can be more effective working outside the structures of the

government to push this nationalist, populist economic movement he is so keen on. and how he is training his focus on china. carol: based on his influence so far one month out of the white house, we look at the outcome of the alabama election. safe to say he is still fairly influential. i am curious about panic conversations you are having with the white house specifically president trump. matt: yes, he is influential. he is out on the stage with roy moore the other night in a born in alabama. he is flying to colorado. josh green reports to interview candidates he was to recruit to go after establishment republicans who are up in the 2018 and 2020 cycle. he is flying to colorado. he is taking it upon himself to be the tip of the spear in finding candidates to go after establishment gop types. this is the cutting edge pulling apart the gop for our eyes.

julia: but he is not afraid to oppose donald trump. that is what we saw in alabama. they were straight out tackling donald trump and his decision. matt: it is strange, this balance he is having to strike. when you look at what bannon said in alabama, we are not here to criticize trump. we are here to honor him. trump, if you listen to his words in a rambling stump speech for strange the other weekend, he did not give a full throated endorsement of luther strange. he did say to some affect if his opponent wins, i will support him too. bannon is saying he is outside the white house and going to defend donald trump and bring them back to this populist platform he thinks trump has been forced to abandon in the white house.

this is a case where trump was clearly on the other side of the ticket and bannon won. julia: clearly we can suggest that china is somewhere where donald trump has used a lot of fiery rhetoric, but the action is not followed through on some of the promises and threats he made during the election. if he had to pinpoint one area where steve bannon would be frustrated with donald trump, it would be china. he has been talking to individuals and some rather interesting ones. henry kissinger. matt: another interesting thing josh green gets into in the piece is how bannon has cultivated this group of old cold war warriors to help them build this anti-china narrative the with a built-in anti-soviet narrative. in the vietnam war they felt

america was kind of preoccupied for obvious reasons with ending the vietnam war. in a series of meetings with kissinger at his weekend house in connecticut, bannon has cultivated him and gotten him in with china. kissinger whose career in and outside of government around china. he has been there 80 times. what is interesting is kissinger tends to fall on the opposite side of the platform when it comes to china. he is a globalist. he has not historically been on board with anti-globalism, anti-trade rhetoric that bannon is keen to push. it is interesting to see how -- we are not sure where kissinger falls in this conversation. it seems clear he helped facilitate some of these meetings that bannon took in hong kong. julia: turning steve bannon into a global cover model was the job of rob vargas.

rob: we worked with this young photographer or she uses color filters to alter the natural color of what she is shooting. she has a bit of a softer focus. bannon, we are used to -- he has a distinctive appearance. we are used to seeing him a certain way which is a little harsh. we wanted to take a different approach and work with a photographer who could see him through a different filter than what we are used to seeing him. carol: how much time did you guys think about how we want to do this? rob: it is like bannon's third phase. first, behind-the-scenes, then a white house operative, now his life beyond that. we looked into all the past photos taken of him. we knew we wanted something different every thought this photographer was the right person. carol: you've got some small writing that says where to next?

people might be surprised for he is focusing on next. rob: it's about where he is setting his sights, so yes. carol: next, the crisis in venezuela. julia: this is "bloomberg businessweek." ♪

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"bloomberg businessweek." julia: you can find us online at businessweek.com. a photo essay thing takes us deep inside the tragedy unfolding in venezuela. carol: we talked with david papadopoulos about the pictures, the stories in the people behind them. david: a good friend of mine who was that recently in the country said to me, i just can't believe -- to see the physical difference took my breath away. it got us thinking. there has been a fair amount written about hunger and these issues in venezuela. this would be a very poignant and powerful way to show the world just what it is like when you see the difference. carol: four years into an economic crisis.

these people in terms of access to food and basic necessities, it is just not happening. david: if you are -- it is a case where it is a socialist economy run amok. the poorest venezuelans -- the middle class is an absolutely deeply precarious state. it is a photo essay, but with mini vignettes. it seeks to highlight in an up close and personal way what hunger looks like in a country that was very wealthy until just a couple of decades ago. julia: talk to us about juan domingo cruz. he does not even recognize himself when he looks in the mirror given the amount of weight he has lost. david: i consider myself half venezuelan. i am married to a venezuelan woman. a lot of it was hard to read. when the transcripts came in from the reporters on the ground, it is so raw.

i will tell you that we identified any number of people to participate in this project. they said yes, yes, yes i will go. at the last moment one after another backed out. i think there are a number of reasons that was happening. it became clear to me as material came in is it is just too raw, too emotional. many people broke down during the interviews. it is really hard to talk about these things, and about how you physically change. i think as we wrote in the piece, when they see themselves, the new versions of themselves, it is a constant reminder of how their lives have fallen apart. julia: for us looking at those pictures, they look pretty healthy. but when you look at the before picture, the change in them. david: there is gallows humor

that calls the weight loss the maduro diet. just think about it this way conceptually. if we were to randomly sample americans, half a dozen americans and we had gone to a similar crisis, it is true that if he grabbed an american from california, new york, kansas, arkansas, we would also be overweight. that is the nature of the population. it is possible they would also -- the after shots to them look ok. a couple of our people heard that on the ground. they say you look better. julia: that is the difference. carol: we were talking about juan domingo cruz. his pre-crisis weight was 209 pounds. he is now 140 pounds.

that is just talking about the amount of food not available to people. david: he skips breakfast. carol: he bought cake on credit. david: he decided to splurge and buy a couple of pieces of cake on credit. carol: will president trump be able to rewrite the iran deal? this is "bloomberg businessweek." ♪ ♪

julia: welcome back to "bloomberg businessweek." carol: you can listen to us on sirius xm 119 and 106.1 fm in boston, am 960 in the bay area. julia: and you can listen in asia on the bloomberg radio plus app. carol: president trump has left his allies and staff guessing about the iran nuclear deal.

nick: you have this extraordinary situation where the iranian president basically called president trump a rogue newcomer. what you saw out of the u.n. general assembly was essentially the united states looking isolated against the rest of the world. the nuclear deal that was put in effect in 2015 really has such broad support among the international community. now president trump wants to blow that up. he is really on his own. there is a closing of ranks among european leaders with iran saying this is not something we are willing to except. carol: by reopening the deal, what is it the united states wants? nick: it is just one piece of a bigger picture. if you look at the totality of iran's behavior, supporting the regime of the syrian president assad, funding terror in the region. maybe you guys took care of the nuclear element in 2015, but that doesn't account for all these other things.

sure, the nuclear deal -- we don't like that deal because some of its provisions expire in 2025. iran will be able to continue to sure, the nuclear deal -- we develop nuclear weapons. we need to address everything iran is doing and not let it get away with any of these things. julia: what is the incentive for iran to comply and president trump does open up the deal and say, fine, we will add other things into it. the ballistic missile development. what is the incentive to comply? nick: that is the question everyone is asking. for weeks we have been trying to answer it. there really is no incentive. one we have gone to the administration to talk, they say what we want to do is reestablish a sanctions regime that was lifted as part of the 2015 nuclear deal. by doing that and putting in this really comprehensive

battery of sanctions against iran, you would force it to comply. we are going back to what things look like in the mid-2000's before the deal was put in place where iran was cut off from the global economy. ok, if you want oil to flow, if you want to do business with banks and companies in the u.s. and europe, you have to do these things. you have to stop developing ballistic missiles and supporting care. it is more of a stick approach than a carrot approach. the question is whether iran will see it that way. julia: on the eve of the german elections, american political operatives helped the far right party gain traction. carol: google and facebook played leading roles. vernon: an austin, texas-based consulting firm does a lot of election work for conservative politicians and campaigns around the world. on the day before the election,

they went and sat down in berlin for the guys from -- running the outside consultants. the digital operation of this far right german party. they opened up to us about how they had done it. carol: a lot of it involves search result advertising, which i think i knew about. tell us about what it is and how they used it in this election. vernon: most users of facebook or google have some basic idea of what they are doing is part of an advertising business. one of the things is they paid google for the rights to use the term "angela merkel." the add above the top search result. they had some trouble with getting the ad approved at first. leading up to the election

anyone that googled their name was they saw a link that led to an attack website they set up. it appears maybe that it works. julia: they were calling her "oath breaker." the fact she had allowed on these refugees to come into the country and the impact that has had linked to terrorism. as you hinted, google pushed back. vernon: how the role became public is when they tried to do the search result and display ads on youtube, which is also a google company. they got rejected by google for technical reasons and then for a couple of other different reasons. what they did was decided we don't need to many more google if you don't let us play the way we want to play. we will take our money to facebook.

they made a public thing about it in german newspapers saying they would ever advertising euros to facebook instead. julia: they looked at likes. people who like posts from afd and then find other potential supporters for afd. describe this. they got a lot of people, access to a lot of people. vernon: what is interesting is this party already had a really strong social media presence, twitter, facebook. these americans they came in and took their 300,000 followers of the party on facebook and with very basic moves on the facebook advertising interface to develop another 300,000 people who match those profiles. people who liked a lot of the same things that the party supporters like had not clicked like on the party itself. they were able to get really high response rates from this other 1% of the german population. then they did it again.

it was sort of like a clone group. that was one of seven different groupings they created on facebook. another one was mothers. another was business owners, and another was people that belonged to unions. they were able to push the party's message, which included anti-immigrant and anti-muslim themes. carol: why it may be impossible to get a job at facebook data centers. julia: and the lawyer that will not stop suing fox news. carol: this is "bloomberg businessweek." ♪

julia: welcome back to "bloomberg businessweek." carol: why some talents may be regretting their bets on silicon valley server farms. julia: the lawyer behind sexual-harassment cases filed against fox. carol: the moms taking on a fire under st. louis. julia: that is ahead on "bloomberg businessweek." ♪

julia: we're back with editor in chief megan murphy. in the technology section, we are talking about this company, facebook. we are focusing on data centers and the tax advantages they get for opening these around the country. megan: it is also about a larger issue. that is really something we spent a lot of time on talking -- on the magazine and on this show talking about, how companies have fundamentally disrupted the labor force. we are seeing these trade-offs like in this one. facebook has gotten huge tax incentives to open data centers, which they need to run their massive servers, in rural, disadvantaged communities. we talk about one in north carolina, one in iowa, and one in oregon. they have gotten tens of millions of dollars in tax incentives with promises of job creation and training. the problem is the actual jobs that are created are pretty minimal. one of the most fascinating things about this story in particular is as part of this

package, this data center in north carolina facebook agreed to sponsor a college forced to train people. this is a fundamental problem in this country. the labor forces need to scale up. what has happened instead is this course has gone to mock ball, no one has really taken it. that is the issue we face. it is not facebook's issue that they need data centers, but if they create jobs as they automate them. carol: the other part that i thought was fascinating is you also have these companies that are ultimately trying to reduce the number of workers they need to run these data centers longer-term. they are getting tax breaks to do this. megan: this is the whole issue. the other thing is these communities -- i know you spend time going down to altoona, iowa. they don't have any other options. big manufacturing went out of town a long time ago. they are desperate for new kinds

of jobs to give their workforce. they will take anything to skill up their workforces. the problem is they come at a cost. these companies are in demand. we have amazon building a new headquarters, and the race for that is unbelievable. unless we find a way to deal with this automation we are facing in terms of these drops going away and really retool the workforce and figure out a way forward, you will have communities continuing to struggle. you can throw in as much money as you want, but whether you have a sustainable economic future is unclear. carol: who knew this man was bringing so many cases against 21st century fox? megan: this is douglas wigdor a very prominent attorney. he has led the charge against fox. they have suffered from a series of claims about sexual harassment and racial

harassment. he has been involved in so many other big cases. charles oakley. the interesting thing about him is he is a republican trump supporting white guy from new jersey leading all these cases in what is traditional a left field. julia: this is not some liberal attempt to discredit a right wing news agency. this is my story of the week. we spoke to the reporter on this, felix gillette. listen in. felix: he is a new york employment lawyer for plaintiffs. he has come to prominence as the go-to lawyer in all these sexual harassment and racial discrimination cases involving fox news. carol: how did that happen? felix: it has been a flurry of lawsuits surrounding behavior at this company that goes back decades. already -- julia: why him? felix: he has emerged as one of

the people best at advancing this strategy against fox news. he has more than 20 clients. what is fascinating is it is not 20 clients in one suit. he has 20 clients spread across -- he has seven active suits against fox news. he keeps filing new lawsuits over time. just when the whole thing has died down or subsided, boom. another big lawsuit comes out. there is always a huge hubbub, which is part of the strategy, to put an immense amount of public relations pressure on fox news. julia: he is colorful. it is not just about being media savvy. referring to 20th century fox as 19th century fox, he gets spin. felix: basically when he filed

complaints, they make them as colorful as possible. some of them involve all of these -- they are usually 20 or 30 pages long. all sorts of crazy stories about bad behavior at the network and manufacturing of news stories. some of it seems completely tangential. as he says, the companies have multimillion dollar marketing departments. they spend a lot of money publicly brandishing their own images. this is one way to combat the public perception about this company. julia: a group of suburban mothers fighting an underground landfill fire. you heard that right. carol: plus, how china is raising incomes in rural parts of the country. julia: this is "bloomberg businessweek." ♪

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carol: find us online at businessweek.com. in a suburb of st. louis, a group of mothers find themselves tackling a monster problem. julia: an underground landfill fire with the threat of becoming radioactive. here is susan berfield. susan: dawn and bryan they moved to a typical suburban in 2005. they moved for all the reasons anybody moved to the suburbs. good schools, parks, not too far or too close to her parents. about seven years after they moved, a terrible stench overcame the neighborhood. dawn called a local agency to find out what was going on. carol: which suburb? susan: a suburb of st. louis. there was a terrible stench she describes as being like kerosene, chemically.

people were gagging. people were getting headaches, nosebleeds, asthma. what she learned is that the smell itself was coming from a landfill. most people knew there was a landfill there. there was a fire underground in the landfill. that was overwhelming the infrastructure of the landfill. it was allowing terrible odors. the landfill is called bridgestone landfill, regular, but smelly. pretty close by was another landfill called westlake landfill. radioactive waste had been dumped in the 1970's without government permission. in a place that was not meant to store it, but it had been sitting there for years. it was part of a superfund site. epa said it was a superfund site in 1990.

this was 2012, and they were still trying to figure out what to do with it. dawn and many other people in the surrounding neighborhoods knew about the regular landfill, but were kind of unaware there was a superfund site. julia: how close to the site, when you are talking about the landfill site being effectively on fire? susan: that is the tricky part. the fire makes its way to its superfund site. >> as the years went on, the fire slowly moved. there are two areas that have radiation. one is very close to the landfill. the fire itself was still several hundred, more than 1000 feet away. for a couple of years it was moving in the wrong direction, moving towards the radioactive waste. carol: let's talk about the company, republic services. what did they say and have they done? they have committed money and efforts and people to dealing with this.

susan: they bought the two landfills knowing it was a superfund site as part of a big merger in 2008. at that exact moment the epa had already suggested a remedy for the radioactive waste. that was to cover it with dirt and soil, concrete, keep it all there, keep it contained from the top. there was an estimate for how much that would cost. it was not too bad, about $45 million. there are other people responsible for paying that. republic figured they will pay about one third of that, we can handle that. they took the site and every thing else. in 2008 after the epa selected this remedy, environmental groups brought up the fact that this radioactivity would -- the elements would become more

radioactive over time, not less. this landfill was just completely inappropriate to even try to contain it. not only is it in a now developed area, it is in a floodplain near the missouri river. the epa review board said we don't think this is the right decision. we need to do more studies. carol: this reminds me so much of erin brockovich. i was kind of reading this and going back to the case for her. are there a lot of people sick? enough fingers to point at the government? where are we on this? susan: in the midst of all of this, scott pruitt, the new administrator of the epa -- carol: appointed by president trump. susan: he wants the epa to focus on superfund sites. westlake has become a real priority for the administration.

they have promised to speed up a review of the remedy for the site. that has prompted some concern with some of the -- it is also encouraging republic to step up its efforts to push for one single remedy, which is keep it there. the moms want most of it out of their community. the health effects are difficult to measure because the epa says all the radiation has more or less stayed on the site. there seems to me some anecdotal evidence that it has spread, but it is low level, chronic. there is not a good way to study that. the community has concerns about their health going forward. carol: speaking of land rights. julia: beijing is allowing farmers to turn profits. cristina: many of them are

literally shackled to the land. china does not have a system of private land ownership. that is one thing keeping people in the villages. they have been piloting for years now different programs in different parts of the country to get around this without instituting private land ownership. we went to a place to see how one of these programs is working. it was interesting to see. julia: just to reiterate the point, it is a communist country. you cannot own land, but you can farm land. with these reforms, you can let someone else farm your land and collect the rent. what difference does it make to some of these farmers? cristina: it has allowed them to move into higher wage occupations. farming is still a low-wage. we interviewed people, one who

had become a roofing contractor. another guy who actually moved into a town. he used his land as collateral for a loan, which is another thing you can do. he opened a supermarket to cater to all these other people, the farmers who moved into a nearby town. julia: are there restrictions on the land and who is taking over the small plots of land? the point of the story is how small these farms are compared to farms in the united states or australia. how are they grouped? cristina: we are talking subsistence farming. i think the average is 1.5 acres farm, whereas in the u.s. for a farm worker in the u.s. is like 180. yields are not very high. cooperatives are coming in. they are going to farmers and saying let us lease the land and

pooling it all together. we talked to people who are doing something in a town like that. they have been able to really push up the yields on the land, partly by changing what they are planting. they are moving away from commodity crops to more organic things. carol: luxury resorts in the heart of africa. julia: and las vegas, the city of sin, sex, and hockey. carol: this is "bloomberg businessweek." ♪

♪ carol: welcome back to "bloomberg businessweek." julia: you can listen to us on the radio on sirius xm 119. york, 106.1 fm in boston. am 960 in the bay area. carol: and in asia on the bloomberg radio plus app. julia: rwanda is remaking itself as a destination for luxury travelers. carol: we talked about the new five-star hotels and tourism boom. emma: our writer traveled to rwanda, and she learned all about the influx of luxury tourism to the area. when you think rwanda, you don't necessarily think super high-end

travel. they have been attracting high-end hotels and visitors with means. tourism has increased about 30% in the past two years. it is very safe, revitalized, and there is a lot of stuff to see. carol: tell us about her experience because it really was kind of higher end. emma: she went to a lodge owned by wilderness safaris. they own about 40 such lodges throughout africa. very high-end. $1000 a night experience. it was right at the base of the mountains of the mountain gorillas live. there are about 300 in the world. this is one of the only places you can go see them. they have strict rules of how you can observe them. she did it, and it is one of those bucket list experiences. julia: she described one touching her jeans. that gave me goosebumps actually. it is also inclusive for the local community, not just isolated projects. it's a regeneration project as well. emma: it is part of wilderness.

wilderness safaris, their mission is to revitalize communities and work with local communities to build their lodges and grow their company. they went to this town, and they said, what can we do for you? how can we help you in this process? they said give us jobs, and we will help you. most of the resort is staffed with locals and was built by locals. it has brought a lot of industry to the neighboring town and given opportunities to people that might not have them. carol: brought a lot of tourism. it has grown dramatically. in terms of exports or fueling the economy, it has driven them. emma: it has surpassed coffee as the number one foreign-exchange earner and will continue to grow. there are a few other luxury hotel companies about the open. julia: we have to ask, how much does it cost?

emma: baseta lodge is about $1000 a night. that is all inclusive. that rivals any five-star hotel experience in the world. carol: and you get gorillas. las vegas is writing his latest show, a gamble. julia: the knights take to the ice next month. here is reporter paul broun field. paul: they are an nhl national hockey league team. the 31st team to join the nhl, and the first in 17 years. julia: the first of the four major leagues to make las vegas their home. paul: shortly after the nhl announced they are going to put a team in las vegas, the nfl owners voted to allow the oakland raiders to move to las vegas. that has kind of upstaged the hockey team, understandably, but there is a lot of pride for that reason. we are here first. we are an expansion team, not a popular team moving from another

city so we can get a better stadium. this is for the people of las vegas, who have never had a professional team. adopt us. that is the message they are really sending. carol: you walk the strip. there are so many things you can do. you can go gamble, see a great show. will hockey make it in vegas? paul: that's one of the reasons it is such an interesting market. there is not a track record. >> not a cold market either. paul: the nhl is also in phoenix, arizona and tampa, florida. it is professional sports. the thing that cures everything is winning. if it is a winning team, yes, it will do well. the market is big enough to support a winning team. >> you have said it is not about the tourists. paul: they are saying it's not

about the tourists. julia: you go to vegas. i'm not sure you necessarily go there for sports. you can go for gambling, the vice elements. how do they bring the sex appeal of vegas to something that is not seen as one of the most sexy sports in the united states? paul: i think this is touching on a larger transition and problem in las vegas. i was shocked at the revenues the hotel casinos get. they are not majority from gambling anymore. there is this millennial shift. >> they don't gamble. paul: they will not sit at the -- they will not stand at the craps table for hours on end. that is not why they are there. you can now do a zipline in the downtown area. extreme sports, golf. i think in terms of the tourism they are counting on two things. one, people from cold weather places in north america who are hockey fans and also go to vegas

once or twice a year will say our team, the edmonton oilers, the boston bruins, they will be in vegas december 10. why don't we go december 8, 9 and 10? they are sort of banking on that. the other thing is sports tourism. people from other countries -- this is a growing sector of the travel industry. you kind of organize a trip around seeing an american professional team. carol: "bloomberg businessweek" is available on newsstands now. >> and online and on our mobile app. what was your favorite story? >> two stories areas of the , world that are crisis. it is told with the help of pictures. one is puerto rico. the devastation they are dealing with, struggling to get water and food. we tell this story, the bankruptcy earlier this year,

now the hurricane. it is an area of the world we need to keep reminding people of. the other story is venezuela also told in pictures. they are struggling. access to food. important stories, we need to stay on top of them. your favorite? julia: the trump-supporting lawyer tackling fox news. super interesting story. he makes his cases incredibly colorful, but gets involved with the bid for sky news in the u.k. regulators are not sure what they are getting into here. a fascinating character. great story. carol: and he has more lawsuits he is pursuing. more bloomberg television starts right now. ♪

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