tv Charlie Rose Bloomberg October 4, 2017 10:00pm-11:00pm EDT
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♪ announcer: from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. charlie: welcome to the program. we begin with a look at the aftermath of the horrific .hooting in las vegas >> a sense of dread, the worst of humanity and the reasons we have been hearing about what could lead someone to do something. i don't know if "ammoral" is the word. there's no sense there's any right or wrong in the person. you come across the best of humanity and extraordinary stories of people thinking quickly, putting themselves in harm's way and doing their best to help their fellow americans and fellow music lovers.
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they are human beings who need to be protected. that is one of the uplifting things that always comes out of these most grotesque events that you see in the beating heart of so many, there is a goodness. charley: also this evening, a performance and conversation with ed sheeran, his new album is called "divide." >> i always thought i would be making a living doing music. i always knew. i never had any other plans. charlie: no plan b? in which includes this evening with -- and we conclude this evening with an appreciation of rock icon tom petty. >> rock and roll. rock and roll, we tend to think it as a specific thing, playing
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with a guitar and a certain amount of attitude to it. there is an honesty to it. whereas rock, i think they lumped in so many things, it is not quite as pure. charlie: the conversation with ed sheeran and remembering tom petty when we continue. ♪ charlie: a tragic shooting sunday night in las vegas at a country musical festival has claimed 59 lives and left more than 500 people injured. it is the deadliest mass shooting in modern u.s. history. stephen paddock has been identified as the shooter. he fired into a crowd of thousands from his hotel suite on the 32nd floor of the mandalay bay. swat officers searching for the shooter found paddock dead in his hotel room from apparently a self-inflicted gunshot wound. authorities discovered an arsenal of 23 firearms in his suite and an additional 19 at his home.
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investigators are searching for possible motives. joining me from las vegas is jon sopel of the bbc and in new york, paul viollis, a law enforcement analyst and i am pleased to have both of them. let me go to you first, jon, tell me, what is the latest in terms of the ongoing uncovering more information about the shooter? jon: charlie, when i went to journalism school, you wanted the answers to the questions, who, what, when, where, why. we got answers to the first four. we know who did it and how it unfolded and we know certain details. but why this shooting took place is still as mysterious as ever. what his motivations were and i think that is something the police and fbi are still working their way through. the sheriff gave a news conference a short time ago and updating people. it seems -- what was clear is
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just how premeditated this was. there were cameras in the hotel corridor that would alert paddock if the security people were moving closer to him. he had cameras in his room and i am sure that the fbi will look to investigate. you have the human tragedy. the astonishing statistics of 59 dead and over 500 injured and all of them telling their hammering stories of survival of amidst the most appalling situation. charlie: what to do we know about him and what does it say? paul: we know he is a well thought out, calculating individual. what is coming out today through interviews with family and we will hear it more and more, he is described as unstable by his family. described as, people said they were uncomfortable around him. we already know he was a loner. these things, these
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characteristics will fit nicely to a profile. we know that he chose this for a reason. we know when he checked in, he chose and selected that particular room so he would overlook that site. we know he meticulously selected weapons, high-powered rifles he could transport, scopes, tripods and also certain types of modifications on weapons that would enable rapid fire. well-planned and well thought out and that event was for a reason. charlie: he meets the profile of others who have done this? in what way? paul: would you look at people who are active shooters, we know he was described as a loner. we know he was described as a poor communicator and today unstable, makes people uncomfortable. as these things built, we will see more and more not just the characteristic, but the violent
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or the science he displayed, thanks he said that were alarming and sent red flags. charlie: what is interesting to me is that, first, its horrific nature is he is killing people he does not know. jon: what is the political motivation? what is the broader rationale behind what he is doing? these are entirely anonymous people who have gone to a country music festival. one of the things we learned if likes country music. people are kindred spirits in their taste. what you have is somebody who is premeditated and determining to inflict the maximum casualty numbers in the minimal amount of time and a whole group of 20,000 people hustled together in an open air concert. you can achieve your goals fairly easily when you have got those high-powered weapons. you have a position on the 32nd
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floor and will take a while for the forces of law and order to close you down. charlie: give me scenarios why somebody would want to do this. paul: he wanted to make a statement and wanted to be heard. he wanted people to listen to him. he wanted people to stand up and take notice. it was a broad stroke. he was looking for attention and body count. the interesting thing that we already know, he was not focusing on a particular individual. he was going after an entire group. he selected that particular venue, that music concert. but on the last day, he picked away the headliner was there, maximum impact. his motivation clearly, we will know more, his motivation was by -- body count.
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to send a macro message. charlie: any indication of anything that set him off? paul: that will come from interviewing neighbors and family members. law enforcement have not really spoken about going to florida where he is from and interviewing neighbors and the workers there. he recently moved to nevada over the last year or so. we need to peel this onion back and we have not done it yet. that information will come from those interviews. charlie: a remarkable thing, jon, the stories of bravery that continue to come. people sacrificing their life to save someone. you're hearing that today, i assume? jon: one of the things that has struck me covering these mass shootings, this sense of dread about seeing the worst in humanity about what could lead somebody to do something, amoral is the word. there's no sense there is any
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right or wrong in the person. you come across the very best of humanity. extraordinary stories of people thinking quickly, putting themselves in harm's way and doing their best to help their fellow americans and fellow music lovers, whatever happens to be, they are human beings who needed to be protected. i think that is one of the uplifting rings that comes out of these most grotesque events that you do see. it is a beating heart of so many americans, a deep vein of goodness. charlie: how seriously are most of these people injured? minor wounds or some bordering critically impaired? jon: i think they go across as a whole gamut. some people sprained an ankle to some people who have had gunshot
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wounds which a life-threatening. if we were to take any solace in anything out of such an awful situation, it is the death toll does not seem to have risen today so far. maybe that means the people in hospital now have been stabilized. they have stabilized their condition. for a lot of these people, it is going to be a long process of rehabilitation, building lives again. what started off as an evening a music concert turned to do something very different, hundreds of people, thousands of families will have had lives changed in the 10 minutes of the shooting spree. charlie: any evidence of mental issues? paul: the interesting part and i am sure jon has covered, the interesting part is in the connection with the father and of mental illness the father had and the criminal history of the father. as that pans out more, that will speak to the genetic side.
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the forensic side looking at the particular shooter in concert with the fact when they spill out his computer and his phone, they see who we is calling and websites he was visiting with respect to motivation and what inspired him. jon: i wanted to add on one level, how can you say, of course he is abnormal, mentally disturbed, he did something like this. you have to see that it was someone who may calm, rationale calculations about how this was going to unfold to put in all of the pieces necessary to achieve his warped objective. you have got mental instability to make somebody wanted to do that yes, but you have somebody functioning at the same time. paul: a sociopathic personality. charlie: thank you for joining us.
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taylor swift says of him whether by choice, when he decided on his musical ambition, he became less of a boy and more of a tank. his new album is called "divide," the single "shape of you" is spotify's most streamed some of all-time. here is ed sheeran performing "shape of you," right here in our studio. ♪ >> the club isn't the best place to find a lover so the bar is where i go me and my friends at the table doing shots drinking fast and then we talk slow you come over and start up a conversation with just me and trust me i'll give it a chance now take my hand, stop, put van the man on the jukebox and then we start to dance, and now i'm singing like girl, you know i want your love your love was handmade for somebody like me come on now, follow my lead
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i may be crazy, don't mind me say, boy, let's not talk too much grab on my waist and put that body on me come on now, follow my lead come, come on now, follow my lead i'm in love with the shape of you we push and pull like a magnet do although my heart is falling too i'm in love with your body and last night you were in my room and now my bedsheets smell like you every day discovering something brand new i'm in love with your body oh-i-oh-i-oh-i-oh-i i'm in love with your body oh-i-oh-i-oh-i-oh-i i'm in love with your body oh-i-oh-i-oh-i-oh-i i'm in love with your body every day discovering something brand new i'm in love with the shape of you one week in we let the story begin we're going out on our first date you and me are thrifty, so go all you can eat fill up your bag and i fill up a plate we talk for hours and hours
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about the sweet and the sour and how your family is doing okay leave and get in a taxi, then kiss in the backseat tell the driver make the radio play, and i'm singing like girl, you know i want your love your love was handmade for somebody like me come on now, follow my lead i may be crazy, don't mind me say, boy, let's not talk too much grab on my waist and put that body on me come on now, follow my lead i'm in love with the shape of you we push and pull like a magnet do although my heart is falling too i'm in love with your body and last night you were in my room and now my bedsheets smell like you every day discovering something brand new i'm in love with your body oh-i-oh-i-oh-i-oh-i i'm in love with your body oh-i-oh-i-oh-i-oh-i i'm in love with your body oh-i-oh-i-oh-i-oh-i i'm in love with your body
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every day discovering something brand new i'm in love with the shape of you come on, be my baby, come on come on, be my baby, come on come on, be my baby, come on come on, be my baby, come on come on, be my baby, come on come on, be my baby, come on come on, be my baby, come on come on, be my baby, come on i'm in love with the shape of you we push and pull like a magnet do although my heart is falling too i'm in love with your body last night you were in my room and now my bedsheets smell like you every day discovering something brand new i'm in love with your body come on, be my baby, come on come on i'm in love with your body come on, be my baby, come on come on i'm in love with your body every day discovering something brand new i'm in love with the shape of
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you ♪ charlie: i am pleased to have ed sheeran back at the table. ed: thank you for having me. new york city is a really cool city. charlie: you like touring? ed: i do. making records are fine, super fun but the buzz of being on stage is irreplaceable. charlie: just your guitar and loop? ed: you press play and it looks back. -- loops back. no 2 shows are the same. at the end of the song, you wipe it. charlie: is it an adjustment of playing stadiums? you played wimbley which is 80,000 people. ed: metlife. yeah.
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i think, it does not really that much different but you kind of, i think if you exert more energy, you end up shooting yourself in the foot and you need to treat it the same. i walk out on stage and want everybody to have a good time. the way people have a good times, they let themselves go and sing as loud as they can. andhe end, you feel drained that's what i want the whole crowd to feel. charlie: you have a few more tattoos i am told. ed: a few more. charlie: [laughter] what can you tell me? ed: they are all over my body, my chest and stomach. nobody sees them. they are in the shape of you video briefly. they are for me, i like them. charlie: met new friends like eric clapton. ed: yeah, i met eric before them
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then but we played on his record and he played on mine and we performed together. it has been a pretty great. charlie: on time's 100 most influential list. ed: i don't know. i don't know if that's sure. i don't know how i'm influencing people. charlie cole and you're certainly influencing -- charlie: you are certainly what you care about and the music. ed: thank you. charlie: what you think connecting to so many people in the pop world? ed: i don't know because i am not doing anything that is not done before. i am writing songs from the heart and i think musicians from all times have done that. my influence is probably unique to the music that i make. the music i make is probably not the most, you know, innovative of ideas. i think the music that gets
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pulled to the melting pot is stuff i grew up with. charlie: the last album had stories about ex-girlfriend in this outgoing, what? ed: a girlfriend i was with last time i saw you, a girl i went to school with and grew up with. and yeah, we kind of like slacked off both of our jobs and what a traveling together. it was a year of experiences. charlie: a year of that journey? ed: i went over to ghana to stay with musician friends and we did -- all we did was create music. charlie: did you learn new music? ed: that means all is well in ghana.
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i mean the first track on the album was something different and a very dark song. i wanted to sum it up and pour more information. not overload, just kind of up to now story of my life. charlie: it is all stores of your life, isn't it? ed: the other songs, they were kind of romantic view of it, a love song or break up. this is talk about my dad taking me to concerts or -- you know, saying i was born in a small town and i lost that state of mind and learned to sing inside of the lord's house. it is specific. charlie: "castle on the hill" is about an actual castle. ed: which is where henry the eighth kept his mistresses. charlie: "shape of you is
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getting all of the attention? out. guess about a night it is not the deepest song to read into considering it is there on the surface. charlie: and "go away girl"? at: "go away, girl" was written, there was an irish folk song that is the riff that i like and we made nancy mulligan together and i said i was like a this song, can we make it. probably 10 different times. >> ♪ baby i just want to dance with my pretty little you're my pretty little go away girl ♪ charlie: when you took the year off with your girlfriend, you did it together? ed: yes.
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charlie: was the idea to lose yourself or to find something? ed: she came to university and did a bachelor's degree. she was in a university for five years and went to work on wall street. i left school and toured. most of my friends went they love school went to traveling and went to thailand or something or do traveling. we do not experience that because we focused on our work. what we both really wanted to experience was that and not on a budget and going to japan. i have been to tokyo but never the country.
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if you visit england and just go to london, you're not really seeing the country. we wanted to take in other cultures. charlie: you have enough money to buy and do whatever you want. ed: but i do not live like that. i do not want a private yacht or luxury jet i want to live in the country. charlie: you do not think you have changed? ed: i have changed. charlie: in what way? ed: from when i was 20 and i'm now 26. if you look at anybody, they change. you move from home, you are meeting new people. in that aspect, i have changed personally. in terms of professionally year on year, i think i'm getting more and more focused. when i first started out, i would be like i will do anything and now it is specifically doing things that actually will benefit the music rather than just --
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charlie: i will do anything means i will do anything to have you here my music and promote my music and get the kind of traction i want? ed: i would go and play -- i remember playing in one of the london pods. just like to 20 people. i think now, i would do that but if it were planned out. i would just go do anything. charlie: you went to london when you were 16? ed: yes. charlie: how do you think you did it as so many people want to be you and you do not want to do it? ed: i do not have a plan b and i was not classify myself as talented, you i think you have to work for talent. i could not really play guitar or sing and i learned how to do both. i think persistence is worth more than talent.
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i came to london and i was not the best singer/songwriter or performer in the scene i was in. even at the time when i got signed, i probably was not the best but the more you work on something, you give yourself no choice but to get better. persistence, for me, was the key. that is what i tell any kid now that comes up to me. i say do not worry if you cannot really sing or play, i could not really when i started out, but i was persistent and i never do i -- never thought i would be doing anything but i knew i would make a living doing music. i always knew that was possible. i never had any other plan. charlie: no plan b? how long did it take you? ed: 4 years, playing shows, every tuesday and thursday, i played three shows a night.
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four years of very intense gigging and recording and networking. charlie: that is an invaluable experience? ed: yeah. if i get offers to metlife stadium, i am not nervous i have done almost 2000 or 3000 shows. charlie: do you bury the set list for every stadium? ed: i have the same beginning and end in the middle varies. in the middle, if somebody is coming to wembley stadium, the -- somebody has a ticket to two or three shows which is common for fans to do, i want them to see a different show every time even if it's the same beginning or end. : it is clear to me what you have developed is a savvy sense of the business of music as well as the doing of music?
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ed: i get a lot of people, earlier in the year, i kind of called a shrewd businessman in a negative sense. my argument was if i wanted to be a basement musician and play you have to be like, if i see every radio station, hopefully, they are going to play the song and people will hear the music and they will get the outgoing. i do not make a record to sit out and not have anyone to listen to it. i want people to take it in. it shows at the show when you play a gig as sometimes people propose and they have their first dance. that's what i want the music to
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be, i wanted to be ingrained in people, good feelings and i do not think you can get to that point letting somebody else to do it. charlie: you actually do it yourself, you are the guy that keeps your focus? ed: i keep my focus but keeping your focus, you pick out various types of people. my manager and the guy, the people who work on my tour, they are focused because they all have the same end goal. the guy who does my sound engineering wants to be the best in the world. charlie: do you remind yourself of any other artist we know? ed: i always look at bruce springsteen as my benchmark. he is a workhorse. he is all about the fans. it is all about the fans, people
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walking away thinking i had a good experience. he is like my benchmark. charlie: we did an interview with jeff bezos. a good guy. he said he does not think about the competition but only the customer and for you is the person in the arena. ed: it is different in jeff bezos' line of work because competition is everything. but with music, it is so subjective, you do not really have competition because nobody does with i do and i do not do when anybody else does. if somebody sells more than me, they have their own lane. it is not like they are stealing customers for it is difficult to look at competition as a musician because everybody is in their own lane.
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it comes to slots at the grammys where it is competition and it is up to someone else. as far as existing as a musician, it is not -- i do not think, i have a competitive story with myself i want to do better than what i did last time. charlie: you are running against yourself? ed: that is not to take away anything from any other musician, everybody has it there ir lane and musical base. my fans are not going to disregard somebody else because they are my fan. they will go to a lot of concerts. i do not think that competition comes into it for my competitive streak is more for myself. charlie: do you still have time to write for other people? ed: yeah, yeah. charlie: justin comes to you, do have another song?
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ed: it just happened a week ago. i don't not know if it is coming this year or at all, he asked me. charlie: you say by the way, i have this song or do you say, i will write you one? ed: i have a lot for him just in case. i have a lot i have written because "coldwater" was so big. i am going to write a bunch in case anybody comes. i have one ready to go. charlie: do you know the ones you want for yourself? ed: for me, it is not that it is a hit. i do not know what is a hit or what is not. charlie: 2.3 billion streams. ed: having someone else singing it does not make sense.
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charlie: would you ever cover "love yourself?" ed: music cares, but that was for 30 people and felt fun. charlie: literally gone to friends' houses and you will perform for their birthday? 35 people? for a wedding? ed: i was saying does somebody the other day, what is your hobby? music. in my spare time, i'd like to write music and perform. i remember i went to see bruno mars in 2013, a concert, he said like pop up on stage and up like that sounds great. i remember i went to see bruno that is what i love to do, perform. people find weird because it is my job. i guess it is having a really,
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really good job is doing what you love which i'm sure you do as well. in my spare time. charlie: find your passion and you will be ok. ed: it is not like -- i get to perform again. charlie: if i get married again, i am calling you. [laughter] a deal. probably a deal you never have to take me up on. ed: i don't know. i play people's weddings. a promised in 2009 and i went back and did it. i do keep my promises. charlie: the reason your life is totally about music is that's what you care about and you have no time for anything but music. and friends. ed: yeah, even with friends and between the music and as they know. they know i am going into the studio.
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i just love it. i just love it. i do not know what i want to do something else. charlie: can you feel yourself getting better and better? ed: definitely song writing, i think i've learned the art of it. at first, i would chuck ideas together. yeah, the art of it is all about the structure. and i think for me, i was always so focused on lyrics whereas now, it is more about usually when i write a melody and lyrics will fall into it. it is like a subconscious thing. it is a more subconscious thing. with "castle om a hill," it just started with me singing a line -- and then it is me going --
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[humming] and now, it is more like feeling it and letting it happen. >> ♪ i am on my way a country lane tiny dancer this way the way you make me feel it is real ♪ charlie: how much of a risk element is part of your dna? ed: i give myself one or two sure things. on this album, there were some sure things and the rest, i try new things out.
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"go away girl" is probably the most polarizing song i have done. it is either the worst song anybody has heard or -- charlie: no in between? ed: people really hate it but i enjoyed making it. it was a risk to do. in my mind, it paid off it is one of the best reactions i get. it sold a bunch of copies. i do not think it was a bad risk. things like that or -- i do not know which way that is going to go, nancy mulligan was very much trying to focus. you know, on my last record, i had a lot of success with experimenting. this record, i did not want to do the same. that is the way i will keep it
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interesting. charlie: what is the idea of plus, divide and multiply? ed: there are five ep's before i got signed for one was with a band and one was programmed and one was just acoustic the one was a live cd and one was collaborations project. i have this idea if i make five things of completely different genres, i will flood the market i am in and eventually i will get a record deal and by the fifth the one, i signed. plus was an addition and multiply it was to make it bigger and multiply which thankfully it did. divide, if you look at it as an album, 12 tracks and it is divided, six are r&b and six are acoustic. charlie: where do you think you will be five years from now?
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you are what, 26 now? ed: hopefully thinking of starting a family. musically, i see the industry going in one direction now and if you look at the beatles and elton john and that era, they were releasing two or three albums a year. it was like very much like that. then, that stopped when cassettes and cds came out. it took a while for cds to get everywhere and people to hear about it on the radio. i feel like the music industry is heading back to where it was which is quick, quick. i've spent three years on each album. i think it will get to the point where people are doing either in one a year or 2. charlie: will quality suffer? ed: no, the album i had a year ago, it is not as perfect as
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this, but the songs were good. as songwriters and musicians, we write good songs all the time and we overthink it. we put in an album together, no, and you over think. i think, the beatles never overthought anything and elton john. they put it on a record and released it. it is a healthy thing for music. charlie how many people release two songs and have it be number one? ed: i cannot take credit for that. the label wanted to put out "shape of you" and we put out both and see who would be the winner.
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charlie: very different songs. ed: that is what helped sell the album. what else is on the album? i think giving people the divide, basically, that was the divide, the pop and not exactly acoustic but the different sounds. charlie: i have asked you before, you are first in your mind a songwriter rather than performer. is that balance getting closer? ed: yeah, i think, i have never -- the last time i saw you, i just wembley stadium and i never thought i would baby to do a a stadium.lay now we are doing a tour that is only stadiums. i'd never thought i would become a stadium act. you have to be a consummate performer and the best you can be because your competition is coldplay and bruce springsteen.
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you have to work to get to that level. i would say i will always be a songwriter but the balance is a balancing out now, a lot of pressure. charlie: when i get re-married, i am calling you and find out where you are. the album "divide," ed sheeran, a great pleasure to have you. i hope you will continue to stop by the table. ed: thank you. i have loads of people saying, i love you doing charlie rose. charlie: my pleasure. great to have you. ♪ is this a phone?
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charlie: rock music icon tom petty died on monday. he was found unconscious at his home. tom petty and the heartbreakers sold more than 80 million albums. his friend and traveling wilburybandmate, bob dylan, said he was a great performer of the light and i will never forget him. tom petty and the heartbreakers recently finished a summer tour and called it his last trip around the country. he appeared on this program in 1999. light and i will never forget him. here is a look at some of the moments. tom: i think there are a lot of places to go with rock, still. i do not think the whole story has been told.
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i still think there will be innovations within the form. and, it is something timeless about rock and roll. i like to have the roll. the roll, a certain swing or -- you know, it used to be rock and roll and then they came and changed the term to rock. and when the term changed to rock, this widened the form. so many different kinds of music were lumped in under rock where
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i think rock and roll, we tend to think of it as a specific thing played with guitar. there's going to be a certain amount of attitude to it. there will be an honesty to it. i think rock and roll, we tend whereas rock, i think, they lumped in so many things under that banner, it is not quite as pure. it is standard today to add your solos later or this and that, but we try to learn that number as we would perform it and put it down that way in the studio. so much of this music is about feel as opposed to, say, technique. technique is great, but it will never substitute the feel. that is what the heartbreakers and i strive for is feel so that you feel it and believe it. to me, my singing voice compared to -- would not hold up but i
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have a believability. if i'm going to play a narrator, i want people to believe me. i think those are the best singers, the ones you tend to believe. charlie: there are certain songs you cannot leave the stage without playing. how many? five? tom: i think there are few that people expect to see "freefalling" and you know "refugee" and "mary jane's last dance." charlie: where do you decide to put them in a performance? where ever you feel like it? tom: wherever they will have the most impact. i do not always save them for the end. that is too predictable. sometimes i like to open with one, a good way to do it.
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yeah, it is hard because you cannot tire of the songs. some of them, we have been playing 20 years or more. "american girl," they really want it. i have to remind myself i am the same way. if i go to see ray charles, i want "what did i say?" he is probably really tired of playing it. charlie: did you put a limit on your ticket prices? tom: to $50 or so. our costs keep going up. i do not think rock needs to be $150 a ticket. i do not think concerts are worth that. i think this music is supposed to be accessible to people. when i was coming up, an album was three bucks.
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i would go out and collect coke cans if i really needed to have this album. i do not only want to play to the elite. charlie: the notion that the material that moves your lyrics, where is it from? tom: it is from my life and my friend's life and all around me. you know, inspiration is never really far away if you look for it. it is all around you. i do not try to write a diary of my life in my work, but it is reflected. i was telling someone recently, if i sat down to write
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conventionally, i don't think i would write. it would put me off. when a song comes, it is a magical thing. you know you're picking up a signal and your writing and doing your best to gut music down and they often come at the same time for me. i am much better in retrospect and looking back a few months later or even a week later and, i see, i understand where this is coming from. but, i do not always sit down and think i will write a song about this or that. i let it go. and, it does wind up capturing a lot of me. but, i have written about other people and their problems as well. charlie: you will always have material? tom: sure, i think it is always around.
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that is a great joy to create something that was not there. charlie: what is harder, the songs or the lyrics? tom: they are equally hard and equally easy. i will take what is tough, when i write lyrics first, i have a really hard time finding the right piece of music that i think is sort of matches the color of the lyrics. i hope that i get a verse or chorus as i find the melody and they usually will guide me. it has been tricky sometimes to get music to fit lyrics. charlie: i would think it worked the other way around. once you had the lyrics, you could think of the music. tom: some people do it that way. for me, it is the opposite.
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i have a tough time setting the -- setting the lyrics to music. i don't know why. i have to find the right feel for it. i try to write at the same time and try -- i tend to trust it if it comes on the same bus. charlie: are you writing all the time? tom: no. charlie: or when you need to? tom: i keep the guitar or piano around and i may have an ideal or piece of a song, but these days, i write more when i know i am going to have an album. when time is set aside to record and i will set aside a few months and i will work fairly diligently. but, some days you go into work, sometimes it is very lonely
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sometimes because you go in the room and you want to write and you pick up your guitar and anything play sounds very musical. and some days, it is not so friendly and sounds cold and if it becomes a struggle, i have learned over the years to just walk away. and go, ok, i am not writing today because it is a struggle. and i wait for those days, it seems to be agreeable. you know, god is with me. charlie: tom petty, dead at 66. ♪
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