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tv   Charlie Rose  Bloomberg  October 13, 2017 6:00pm-7:00pm EDT

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♪ from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." tour is here, a correspondent for abc news and an anchor for msnbc. she spent more than 500 days on the presidential campaign trail. she covered the candidacy of donald trump. the futureay, president often singled her out for criticism. her new memoir documents that experience. atm pleased to have her back this table. welcome. it is great to have you here.
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you have not seen the president since the election? katy: not in person since the election -- or the inauguration, i should say. charlie: tell me what people are saying about you today? katy: there are questions about what exactly is going on inside the white house. what does the president to every day -- do every day? is he fully invested as the day-to-day operations of governing as he needs to be? why is he getting so distracted by cable news still? also, has he lost a step? ine sherman wrote a report vanity fair about this and essentially said what i have been hearing from my sources within the trump orbit. e seems to be something
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different about him today then during the campaign. 1% read the book and -- one person read the book and asked do you think something has changed? charlie: summary asked you that -- somebody asked you that? new him during the campaign. do you think he lost something? katy: i think he has always been a combative person. during the campaign, he reveled andoing to these rallies hearing the roar of the crowd. that would combat some of what he felt to the negativity coming from the media. now, he does not have those rallies to feed off of any longer. now, within his mind and the white house, it feels like a daily onslaught of negative headlines. the issue is many of them are of
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his own making because he responds and only furthers and deepens any given controversy. katy: you saw the power of those rallies, and you are one of the reporters who thought he would what yout was because saw at those rallies. you saw what people would do to see donald trump. katy: they really connected with him. he wasally thought someone who would fight for them as opposed to all the politicians in washington who seemed to say one thing on the campaign trail and do another after they were elected. donald trump was willing to a anything. -- donald trump was willing to say anything. he wasn't trying to win votes with empty promises. not even that, they do not hold him accountable for what he said he would do. if he went to washington and decided to reverse course on any number of issues, i would argue many of his supporters would stay with him because ultimately, what they wanted
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more was the man and not the policies. one quick anecdote. he does not have many policies beyond we will build a wall and have extreme vetting or the muslim ban or we will lower tax rates. charlie: you have the iran deal. katy: yeah. i was speaking to one man outside a rally in ohio and asked why he liked donald trump. the man said he will build a law. i said what if he doesn't. his response was, it is ok, i trust his judgment. charlie: didn't he say i could shoot somebody on 5th avenue -- katy: and i still have my supporters. that is how they felt about him. they were rabidly enthusiastic about donald trump. some would show it was not just the folks who went to the rally and the like they were unleashed in this space and can unleash their demons and can yell as loud as they could. they were free to be as crude as
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donald was being from the stage. it was people outside of the rallies, as well. abel who would not necessarily advertise they were supporters. wouldn't go around with a make america great again hacks. -- hat. any of them we would talk to admit that they really like him and i don't think it is an easy thing to admit to my friends or neighbors. i would argue, wasn't as accurate as it normally would have been because people were going to say one thing and then they got into the voting booth all alone in that booth, and my producer and i imagine that a lot of folks would pull the lever for trump. charlie: one thing happening to you was being a foreign correspondent and coming back to
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new york and all of a sudden how would you like to follow donald trump? katy: i have moved to london, it is a big world and that is a dream job. you get to travel everywhere. dream job. dream job. the only job that i ever truly wanted. that i said i would allowed to take me out of new york city or even los angeles. charlie: did you come here for a visit? i came here for a visit, i walked into the newsroom, you have to remind your bosses you were alive because overseas and can get slow. donald trump. the miss universe pageant was dropped. they said we need to cover the story. who is around? y,me of you said katie
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she is just standing around. and i got the job. charlie: your book is about the craziest election in american history. why was it crazy? katy: he said things nobody else would be able to say in that position because he allowed other people to say things that they would never normally say. there were no rules for this campaign. boundaries.o there was no taboo. there was no line that donald trump was not willing to cross. charlie: he was doing something right, obviously, because he won. beyond the fact he had his own constituency. david brooks wrote this about him. "it has to be admitted that he was elected to do exactly what he was elected to do. he never showed any interest in politics during the campaign. he was elected to shed the american culture and give a
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voice to those who felt voiceless and that. culture -- that culture." katy: i thought about that in the book and who was a trump voter and how they might have been feeling. people who feel like they are screaming in a crowded room full of other people wearing earphones. builds were spiking but their paychecks were not. people whose food is full of chemicals, whose medicine cabinets are full of pills. hadfeeling that america passed them by. they go into their local main street and the shots are boarded up. they are big box stores instead of mom-and-pop. the jobs had moved away. charlie: david also said this. what is troubling to me is those who are the target of his assault, the establishment, and
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have no clue about what is going on. then, they feel the most righteous. they are actually losing and in the most parol. then he goes on to explain why. it is essentially true. there's a sense of the terms of the establishment bewilderment about donald trump. katy: i think that is right. i think if you pick up this book and you read it, you will have a better understanding of -- i think it is easy to forget what at the campaign. it is easy to whitewash it in your brain and say it was just nothing but a political anomaly and can never happen again. and how dare donald trump come in and do things we cannot expect a president to do. go back and read and get the day-to-day of what happened. charlie: you suggest arts of the deal where he says i understand and feed people's fantasies. katy: absolutely. truthful hyperbole. someone said he gives people a razzle-dazzle. he is good at convincing you
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that he is special, that he is unique, and that he is the one who can do something that no one else can. he stood up on a podium and said, i alone can fix it. people bought into that because they bought into the idea of who donald trump was. the dealmaker, this unparalleled businessman, this savant when it comes to success. part of the reason they bought into that is because his stint on the apprentice. charlie: tell me how that followed. because he was a salesman? because he was a salesman. he presented himself on the show at the ultimate is this man. he knew who would do well in any given job. they would say to me, he is going to hire the right people. how do you know? because i thought i'm doing on the apprentice. he did a very good job holding the mythology around donald
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trump your he has always done this, charlie. you have known this for decades. he did this in the 80's and the 90's in new york with the tabloids. he. he felt. he would call up reporters and she would sell them. he would call up the reporters and tell them donald trump cannot lose. katy: do you -- charlie: do you believe that? katy: i think they are one in the same. i think he believes what he is saying. charlie: see you think they thought that he would when -- do you think the reporters thought he would win? katy: no. they were blaming the rnc and off -- four donald trump's win. --sing this enthusiasm has got to show
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up and is not being captured correctly by the polls. charlie: it was a core belief. i think he went on and off about whether or not he would when. toward -- win. toward the end, i think he thought definitely he would not win because that is when you saw him go out and talk about the conspiracy theories with the big , withand hillary clinton the liberals in the media and other shady -- wanted to eliminate the idea that we process the results katy: if he didn't like them. katy:yes. but he was that he himself up or he didn't win there was fraud. charlie: did he win the election or did she lose it? katy: i think there is a combination. i think you need a lot more distance from it. for as much as people liked donald trump, people hated hillary clinton. charlie: is the combination of
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his core supporters, he has had more than that -- so the political question for me is the more than that. are they still with him? katy: that is a really good question. there are polls that indicate that could be breaking here and there. the people who helped her nose and decided they wanted to vote for him because they did not like hillary clinton or thought she might be under federal investigation. that is what we should be watching out for. i think it is very dependent on who the democrats put up for 2020. charlie: there is speculation. somebody quoted -- i'm not sure if he said it but quoted that there was a 30% chance he would not survive his first term. were people speculating on that? top of the 25th amendment -- katy: when i asked folks in the world about what they think of donald trump, will he remain throughout this term, the
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question is generally i don't know. all options are in the air. i would be surprised if donald trump walked away from this as i thought it was inconceivable that he would have walked away from the campaign lately when the access hollywood tape broke, when everyone's telling him to. i do not think he wants to be seen -- charlie: steve bannon. katy: yeah. i do not think he wants to be seen as a loser or a quitter. i do not know if steve bannon was trying to fire a shot over the battle that says, listen, get on board with me. get on board with who i think you should have in place in 2018 because if the democrats win the house you will be impeached. charlie: how did you go back to the campaign when you are signaled out? would you holler through the crowd -- when he would holler through the crowd there is little katy tur in the back. i remember thinking what
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is the point of this. the first corresponded to cover the campaign full-time. i was the first person from a mainstream media outlet, from nbc news of all outlets, to say we think you are a serious political candidate. you are a player. you have a chance. he would see me on rallies for months on and before anyone else before for months on end anyone else would show up. i was the only thing he recognized in the crowd because other orders were not on that beat full-time. he would often come back and talk to reporters after a rally and i would get my questions answered all the time. ilen he needed a media fo to represent the lying scum press he would call out, he knew i would be out there and he can backy say katy tur, she is
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there, and everyone would be able to turn around and find me. there were times when it felt uncomfortable and threatening. certainly the muslim ban day in south carolina. charlie: what happened that day? katy: december 7, 2015. a couple from san bernardino went up and shot an office party. president obama gave a speech on terrorism and donald trump comes out and announces he wants a muslim ban. he is saying the obama administration is not vetting people properly. they are letting terrorists come in and their muslim forhbors are hiding them you. they are out to get you in your lives are at risk. the majority of republican voters most feared being the victims of a terrorist attack. donald trump with a medium is implicit because they are not reporting it and telling you the obama administration is not lax with theeing
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borders. and as from a people who are waiting for donald trump to does noty announce he want muslims to come into the country, this bruma people where we cannot -- this room of people who could not take it was a bad idea, he's -- he starts going after the press. he says, little katy, she is back there. room, thousands of people, turn around and yell at me at once. stand on their chairs to boo ing. they start pointing and calling me names. it was threatening. charlie: you are feeling what? fear? katy: and the moment i thought to myself, smile and wave. and waved. if they are intimidating you and think you are scared, it is worse. another liveshot,
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shot, and there were stragglers that were waiting behind the press pad. withone is blowing up frantic messages from my mother hoping that i am safe. hopings from my bosses the same thing and from fellow journalists on- twitter coming to my defense. i finished my life shot and we thought it was a good idea to get out of there. affermp ever finds me -- st finds me and says these guys are going to walk you out and it was two secret service agents. you wanted the answer to why doesn't he tell the truth. why do you think he doesn't tell the truth? katy: the truth is not in his favor. charlie: in any way? doesn't knowes he he is lying? katy: i don't know how after all
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the time we corrected him that he can say america is the highest tax nation in the world. he is corrected in the moment and then he says things again. mind,viously not in his but he has been corrected publicly a lot for a lot of the things he says, and he still says them. charlie: does he have self-doubt at all? katy: it doesn't seem like he does. charlie: who has the capacity to say no to him today? katy: that is a good question. i think his kids have the capacity to say that. charlie: do you think they do say it? katy: i don't know. i am not in those rooms. tom barrett said that he will say no to him. charlie: i think he will. i have known them for a while. katy: there are a few people in his orbit that have been there long enough to know how to relate to him on an honest
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level. buddy, he had a longtime he is no longer with him in the white house. kelly, whoneral now has access to him, has done a disfavor to him because the president said people can come in and talk to him. able tois spirit to be have that lose connection to people without a formal structure, without developing a gatekeeper for him. katy: the thing i can add about who can say no to him. what i noticed most about donald trump's world and those who are close to him and have a is heonship with him inspires a lot of devotion. charlie: inspires or demands? katy: maybe both. when you ask a lot of the people that he is close with what do you think of when he does this,
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or do you think he is actually fit to be president, do you think he cares enough about policy, the answer i would give even in private is he is a aboutful man and he cares this country and he will be great for this country. that was an almost unfailing answer from everyone and his world. i don't hope it is the demand or inspiration, but they feel that way. charlie: thank you for coming. ♪
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♪ is here.dr. gates, jr. he is one of the most respected african-american scholars. names.ason pages big here is a look. anybody whoainst has been in my series. if you have long identical stretches, that means your cousins. >> i have some cousins? >> yes. >> i hope it is a good athlete. what the hell! you are kidding. oh my god. that is unbelievable! is it true? >> it is true. >> that is so funny. that is really funny.
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that is amazing. ok, cousin bernie. >> they talk about larry david a bettersay he does bernie sanders than i do. [laughter] charlie: i'm glad to have you back. dr. gates, jr.: nice to be back. charlie: bernie sanders and larry david are cousins. is hidingknow what yo in your genome. this is the fourth season. dr. gates, jr.: remember, it started in 2005. it was called african american lives and i wanted to do a 21st century version of alex haley's roots. a prominentget african-americans and trace their family history back to the abyss of slavery. that is when the roots with disappear.
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i wanted to find out what the group they were from in africa. i got oprah winfrey, chris tucker, quincy jones. it was an experiment and a big hit. pbs asked me to do a sequel and we called it african-american lives 2. we did morgan freeman. -- maya angelou. charlie: the idea with their lives would be more interesting to people? dr. gates, jr.: viewers, real people who to do and want to look over the shoulder -- charlie: they want to know about people and their families. dr. gates, jr.: right. here is when the brands changed. i get a letter, charlie, i started getting all these letters from people. i got a letter from a russian- jewish woman who says i've always admired your career and your stance on multicultural
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diversity. seasons ofing two african-american life i decided you're a big, fat racist because you only do black people. [laughter] my focus is african-american studies. i have studied that since i was 26 years old. i had to ask friends and pbs, can i expand the brand? we decided we would do that. why wouldn't we showed the fabulous experience with everybody? we did a show called faces of america. experiment.r-hour i know how difficult black people, but how you pick what people? and then what about asian people? muslims? catholics? i did what nolo with you. two -- noah would do. two of each. andas marvelously received
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i was asked to do a weekly series. ago, all of your ancestors no matter what you look like today were wandering around our wandering out of east africa and that is a fact. we're over 99.9% -- it is a fact that bill clinton loves to -- that we are 99.9% identical. but in the name of the tiny little genomic difference, people enslaved people and wage wars. why i do theed series and the real reason is to reconstruct the perceived notion of race and biological difference to show that no matter what the law was, prohibiting -- shall we say -- co-mingling, everybody was sleeping with everybody else.
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sometimes it was in the case of slavery of rape that was not consensual but other times it was. charlie: with the most interesting -- one of the most interesting things i have learned was we have guests with three dna companies. the black people, none have ever been tested by us and i think very few by any of these dna companies. who has been 100% sub-saharan african. african is european. because of slavery. charlie: slavery and transported him to places in europe and the united eight. -- states. dr. gates, jr.: the slave trade to the new world and more specifically the united states. i always ask if they have african-american ancestors. high cheekbones an.
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havet none of them native american ancestry. some do. over a dead end chris tucker rahd -- op ra did did end chris tucker did. we take the dna and analyze it. charlie: what does that and it -- what does the analysis tell you? it tells us that the chief dna is y, which you inherited from your father, your mitochondrion dna, which you inherited from your mother, and stuff from the last 500 years of native american ancestry, european, sub-saharan, asian, and
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subdivisions. charlie: i want to know who was my great, great, great, great grandfather and who he married. dr. gates, jr.: that is the first part of the series. i only realized when we were filming the first person in 2005 when i thought that african americans would be moved more emotionally by discovering their african origins. discovered when the first guest broke down and cried when they saw the slave ancestors. people only respond emotionally when they ask exactly what you said. where was my great great great grandfather? happy people do not migrate so what were they doing? charlie: mi royal -- -- am i royal?
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charlie: oh, i am sure i was royal. dr. gates, jr.: it is the essential question for everyone. who am i? last year we had 3 million viewers a week. why? we have so much anxiety about the president and the future that people want to take comfort from the past. the want to anchor yourself and find out how did i get here. the ultimate terra firma, ultimately to find solid ground is within your self. you are carrying dna from each of the ancestors back six generations. everybody in your family tree from 180 years back. you are actually carrying dna from them. you are a walking family tree. when you hear the stories, and nobody -- we have done hundreds of people -- nobody knows anything. i used to think it was only black people who didn't know. white people don't know, jews
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don't know, muslims don't know. charlie: what about children who have been adopted? dr. gates, jr.: people who have been adopted might want to know. we have the most amazing adoption story we have ever done. i think it is the last episode. her mother was adopted as an infant in texas. they only told me this when we counter but they were arguing about being in the series for a year because the mother did not want to know. you cannot guarantee that we are going to find your birth mother and birth father. it is very, very difficult. we have the sherlock holmes of genealogy and she specializes in adoptees. i promised you nothing but i warned you the best we can
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do is your ad mixer and find out if your grandmother was of irish descent or french or jewish. i said please turn the page. she melted. she is looking at a woman, obviously not her mother, but her mother is a spitting image. i said you were looking at your biological grandma, and she wilted. can she find her biological mother? dr. gates, jr.: no, she knew her mother. she was looking for her grandparents. we found the grandfather. then she goes off because she just fell apart, as you can imagine. then, she is fighting back tears and she says tell me about her. when did she die? i tell her she didn't die and then she fell apart again. can you imagine?
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we found her mother's biological father who had passed on. he is descended from a man who is the next her neighbor to george washington. for sixth or seventh grade -- she had no idea. it was amazing. is fabulous. look at when we do janet mock. they lose at the most limiting of the names of their enslaved ancestors and, if you're lucky, the white people, sometimes black -- giving them dignity and finding out where their names come from. percentage ofng african-americans get their last from the way people who owned their ancestors. little: there was a business about investigating and
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determining. does that happen often? with that an isolated example of how someone comes and says this is embarrassing to me, whatever it might be? dr. gates, jr.: it never happened since and people don't know the rules. you cannot ask for something after it is films -- and people know the rules. you cannot ask for something after it is filmed. charlie: but there might be something that is not heroic or that is very bad. something that might be in their ancestry. someone made a joke that someone -- dr. gates, jr.: if i do your family tree in season five, if you have ancestors who were dlaves, -- who owne slaves, i'm not going to make you feel bad about it. i am just telling you who your ancestors are.
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i have the money was very proud of his japanese heritage. actuallyfather was korean and sent to japan to be educated. he adopted a japanese identity and passed for japanese. during world war ii, he was engaged by the not these. he was a famous dancer and has a little museum in japan. he was engaged to entertain german troops and europe -- in europe. i would tease carly simon about her lips. look at her lips! she would laugh. finally, she agreed. my partner is a human historian. this is crucial to the store -- cuban historian. this is crucial to the story. what shy what she
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knows. grandmother had a theory that she was -- 's great,out, shebee was a great grandparents were free people of color. they were liberated slaves. she was about 40% black, which means carly's mother is 20% black and she is just about 10% black. that is equivalent to the amount of dna you would inherit from a great-grandmother of full ancestry. we never tested a white person as black as you. >> i can't wait to tell my sisters. [laughter] charlie: this is on at what time? dr. gates, jr.: 8:00 on tuesday
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night. ♪
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"stories" is a new film that describes it mid-family. it has received widespread praise. they gave us this bigger table. i imagine they will send them, three stuff too. >> $55 for a steak. $35 for a salmon.
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ou you get a salmon to blow y for that price? had twon't really see sons. >> and a daughter. >> it will be ok here. >> i didn't get a lot of time with him growing up. ♪ >> take all of the little birds and just -- there are no little birds left anymore. ♪ >> you are going to meet a lot of interesting new people. ♪ >> you are on the list for the
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public viewing. right now, this is the private viewing. >> she hears everything you are saying. ♪ >> i do not think i have ever ene run. run, run, run! [beeping] ♪ >> ow! you kicked me in the shin. treating me now is the director and three of the actors.
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dustin hoffman plays the family patriarch. adam sandler is the oldest son. elizabeth marvel is the daughter. i am pleased to have all of them here at this table. this movie?t something we always talked about in a way, dustin plays a sculptor. harold, and itr, is a family where i feel like art has taken the place of religion. look up to thef artist and are as the hierarchy of what is success or filmed or happiness. because harold has not had the success he hoped for, the happiness have not come with it. story is broken up into
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sections. we have the kids from his first marriage played by adam and beth. then he left their mom and married another woman. charlie: he is often only making a lot of money? >> yes, he is. he is a business manager but not an artist. he has another sense of accomplishment because he went another way. the movie sort of documents how the adult siblings have kind of come to contend with this figure in her life. harold? how did you see how did you inhabit this patriarch? dustin: my father had a lot of patriarchal qualities. [laughter] we started talking about our families.
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not for attribution. 'sf the record, my father pa past is still alive. charlie: you understand how your father was? dustin: yes, this whole idea of success and failure. what constitutes success? will constitutes failure as an artist? you can fail as an artist, there's history of it, van gogh, whoever. it has nothing to do with the deaths or -- depths or qualities of it. charlie: tell me what you wanted to do here? you have these interesting actors playing the dynamics of a family. this is not a new subject for you. what happens within families seems to be your -- >> i do not know exactly what brought me back to it except i i am interested in also
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family mythologies and how families, starting with the parents, invent a kind of mythology. there consciously or unconsciously. is about whatit makes a true artist. all families do it to some degree. as the kids grow up and they go out in their own lives, they become their own personal mythologies, which sometimes they do not even realize. i think a lot of growing up is unlearningis almost some of this -- charlie: learning the relationship or the impact of the parents on the child? noah: yes and unlearning what they have been taught. this sort of almost don't realize they believe what they believe. in this case, it is about what constitutes success. character is a
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frustrated musician who never pursued it but was clearly talented but with a wonderful father. because that is not valued, parenting is not valued in the family so he feels like a failure. he has an amazing daughter. he has clearly done an incredible job. by another family's standards, he would be a great success. this character makes a lot of money and is a successful as his manager but is not an artist. charlie: by the values he has learned, he is not successful. to me, it is so interesting because we were saying what you -- when you are making, you are a mole in the dirt and just in it. when you get to this point in the process where everyone is talking about it and you are looking objectively at it and you start to feel these things that are not coming on instinct.
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gina is very interesting because i think she did not suffer from the pressure of her father's gaze because she was not seen. she does not have the measuring the enforced on her because she left and created a world for herself. joyful in herd land. yet, he didn't do enough of --ob that we all come home, he didn't do enough of a job that we all come home, we all come home for dinner, we all care for each other. that is not nothing. charlie: that is not nothing at all. did you see these actors in your mind when you were writing this or did you write the characters then look around and say -- iah: it started with ben and movies previously.
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greenberg and while we are young. i had an idea. i was thinking about adult siblings and i came to them. ben.reached -- -- came to adam reached out to me a few years earlier and said if you ever have anything, which many actors will say and then years later you will send them something, sorry i just didn't respond. [laughter] >> thanks, i cannot wait for you to offer me again. [laughter] >> i spent all his money i have. [laughter] but i was true to his word. i had lunch a few years ago and talked about what became the movie. we did not know what it was.
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we talked about a lot of things, our lives, but all i looked with is there should be a physical fight between then and - between ben and adam at some point. charlie: you have no want to make an action adventure thriller? >> dustin as a killer. we could probably come up with something really good right now. >> 007. >> that was cast incorrectly. [laughter] charlie: in a sense, there is those personalities and those skills that they each had? they had feeds into your brain because you are talking about it. noah: yes, i did have adam and ben in mind. when i first showed the script to people, the first few people assumed the other actor was playing the other part. charlie: you thought you were playing ben's character?
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i read it and then i would have to go back to the beginning. i could see myself playing ben's parts. both parts are pretty great. it was just a man's vision and i was danny,. . charlie: do you feel when you play a character like danny, normally use -- you use muscles that you do not normally use? anyone that idea i would assume -- and you like that idea i would assume? adam: yes. i can see somebody who can act like this. charlie: in your terminology, you can play basketball but not throw a three-pointer. [laughter] adam: i want to be on the same team with you, charlie. i do not want to be selected by the charlie rose team. charlie: because i am from north
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carolina and went to duke. [laughter] everyone who went to duke plays basketball. adam: exactly. charlie: all of this is about the tension within the family, have this value code art ande promisee of intelligence. also, what is your role as a child? as a grown child. what is the responsibility? it might give it away, but later in the movie, -- noah: it might give it away, but later in the movie, harold and up in the hospital. sort of like what happens if -- you have complicated feelings about your parents and.
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one character is actively rejecting the parents and then suddenly you cannot get angry at him. he is in this very vulnerable states. because of that, things change in the second half of the movie. sets of is two families. danny from onend mom and then matthew from the other. they do not all come together until this section. charlie: was the beard your idea? >> no. nothing is my idea. charlie: you are an actor. you do what they tell you. >> the first thing he said. >> start growing it now. [laughter] i imagined world with a beard, but also i felt i wanted faith.ge dustin's
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i asked you if you ever had appeared in a movie and i think you said lenny was maybe the only time and this was a different kind of beer. -- beard. you said it changed how you felt about yourself, how you played the part having a beer. think a lot of what you do as the director and a friend, as long as i have known you, is you do not really know consciously why you make certain decisions, which is quite wonderful. i think after i was wearing it, particularly after i had seen it, it is his pretensions of proof that he is an artist. i think that was in your -- charlie: he want to prove he is an artist. dustin: yes. he wants everyone to know he is an artist. not consciously, but i think he wants to be known and respected in a way that he'd never happened. charlie: two ever want to stand up and think -- adam: i have been doing it
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again. i have been running around putting something together. shows and that way i have to go to the improv and other great clubs. just start by -- stop by and try to place about. charlie: do the reactions to the characters you played in movies? adam: initially, i get a nice response because the audience has in some of my stuff. andi try to shut that down try to get to the stuff i want to talk about or try out. drunk love is the first time i saw adam do non-comedy. i did not know him. i called him up and said i do not think you are aware of what a wonderful character you do. someone who is bipolar at least. i thought it is very good work. charlie: congratulations to all
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of you. >> thank you. charlie: nice to see you always. ♪
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