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♪ >> from our studios in new york city>>, this is charlie rose. charlie: we begin this evening with a focus on the opioid addiction problem. it claims over 100 lives daily. president trump clarinet a public health emergency. in a speech alongside families affected, the president called it the worst drug crisis in american history. pres. trump: my administration is officially declaring the opa crisis a national public health emergency under federal law. why i am directing all executive agencies to use every
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appropriate emergency authority to fight the opioid crisis. step inks a critical confronting the extraordinary challenge that we face. charlie: the president's announcement fulfills a longtime indged but falls short declaring a state of emergency. joining me from washington is jenna johnson, a reporter for the washington post. i'm pleased to have her here on this program this evening. tell me about the president and what he is attempting to do. jenna:tell he said he wants out those already addicted and prevent more people from becoming addicted. but declaring this health emergency, he is getting some of the help more quickly. people living in isolated towns can get treatment remotely.
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they're hoping to expand the number of treatment places, where those on medicaid can go and get treatments. they might make some grant money available through the department of labor for those who are addicted and need a job. a lot of what is happening with public emergency as they are trying to get help more quickly to the all. one thing that is not happening with this is getting more money to the problem. the white house is saying they hope congress will step up. experts say it could cost tens of billions of dollars to properly address this. whylie: there are reasons
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he did not call it a national state of emergency. what are they? differentse are two things than he has a commission on this crisis. they said he can't pick either one of these. if he declared a national emergency, which is what he said he would do, that would be just like after a tornado for a hurricane. you have targeted areas that need help very quickly and they need a lot of money very quickly. had he done that, certain states are certain areas would have been able to apply for federal disaster dollars and the white house is saying they did not think that let them do anything that he can do with a public health emergency. they did a public health emergency. this is what we did back in 2009. the obama administration did this with that influenza virus going around.
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what this does is it allows the department of health and human services to relax some of the regulation and to make an effort to get help out there work with more quickly. the white house says they picked this option because they thought it better addressed the issue. charlie: what difference will it make that the president says homeland security and the postal service says they will prevent fentanyl from coming in from china? jenna: this is been a big issue. the white house and others are looking at how are these trucks coming into the country -- drugs coming into the country. addicts are getting them from a variety of ways. legallys they were prescribed and then sold on a black market. another cases, they are coming in a legally into the country in the mail. illegally into the country in the mail.
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this is something already underway and has been underway for a while. again, looking at every avenue possible, just trying to cut off the supply chains. charlie: originally, tom marino was going to be the drug czar. when do we expect the president to nominate another drug czar? yet.: they haven't said we are also without a permanent health secretary because tom rice stepped down. those are very key positions. the white house said they are urgent spots that the president but they did not give us any indication as to when we could expect to see some nominees. charlie: what did the president
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-- what is the next step for the administration for the federal government? jenna: money. this all comes down to money. a lot of advocates that we talked with today said the president can call this whatever kind of emergency he wants to call it. is morereally need money. more money for treatment. more money to help people. just more money. the white house is pointing to congress, saying they're the ones who need to find that. that is what we're all waiting to see. the initiatives can help make a little bit of progress on top of what already is being done, the they paid saying billions of dollars to really do the sweeping changes they want. charlie: when you look at the politics of this thing, how does it play? this is an issue that is impacting the entire country. the really is not a community that has not been affected by
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this. this opioid crisis. any when talk to have someone they know who has dealt with this or perhaps has died of an overdose. hitting thecially states where the president qowon. cyclamen is coast like pennsylvania -- states like the -- states in the east coast like pennsylvania, some of communitiesal lasting jobs try out, this is really hurting them. i talked people in small localities who say their mortuary is having a hard time keeping up with all of the bodies that keep showing up. this is the death rate that small communities cannot keep up with you is young people they cannot -- cannot keep up with.
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it is young people who are supposed to be the future of these communities it is hurting the country and the president's supporters. he is hearing from them and hearing that they want to take care of this problem. to follow through on his campaign promise to make this go away. charlie: thank you so much. jenna: thank you for having me. charlie: back in a moment. ♪ charlie: we continue our discussion with a distinguished panel of experts. the director of the national institute on drug abuse at the national institute of health. an addiction medical physician and the former chief of addiction medicine. president ofe vice the eastside service center. i'm pleased to have each of them. where we are today.
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we've spoken to what the president said. tell me where we are today in terms of the crisis and what is necessary to get our hands around this. >> it is worse than it has ever been. i work for an agency and the east sidelower service center, that has been fighting the battle for the last 58 years. there was a time when he was confined areas in new york city like the lower east side and harlem and bad parts of brooklyn, but it has changed. now, it has affected everyone. the affluence, the whites, and wonderful areas like long island and staten island. charlie: it is as much in rule rural areas as urban areas. peter: exactly. it used to be confined to pockets of minorities but that has changed. more people are using opioids
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than ever before. people said or than 140 overdose every day. think about that. it is a complex problem. charlie: almost everybody knows somebody that has been a victim. peter: absolutely. this is the thing people do not talk about. because this is embarrassing, shameful. nowadays, i cannot think -- i've been in the field for quite some time. i cannot think of anyone i talked to that isn't affected directly or indirectly through a friend, family member. i find people are talking about it more than they have ever talked about it before. charlie: how did we get here? 25, 30ot here probably years ago. perhaps of the intentions of trying to treat patients suffering from pain but without the sufficient knowledge. we became complacent and started to overprescribed opioid medication under the belief that if a patient has pain, they
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would not become addicted and under the belief you can increase the dosage of opioids to high levels without risk in the life of the patient and unfortunately, neither of those things turned out to be right. when prescription lets a diversion of the medications. toone prescription led diversion of the medications. some of them were becoming addicted and overdosing. we became complacent as a health care system. on the other hand, we have the need of 25 million people in the united states that suffers from chronic pain daily. number,, and it can be quite devastating. charlie: i read somewhere one in 10 people who get surgery in this country will go on to user. a continued opioid dr. volkow: it is interesting.
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-- a bad -- my father was just-- >> my father was just hospitalized for a that viral infection. people in genuine pain are being under prescribed pain. i agree that there are many patients in whom opioid painkillers are actually clinically indicated. my concern now is the pendulum is swinging too far the other a clinically indicated to get opioid painkillers are not getting it. having said that, i agree with lkow, doctors do not have the training they need to properly and appropriately prescribed medications. truth be told, i never learned any of this during medical
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school or residency. i went to really good institutions. everything i've learned and i'm talking about now has been on the job training. were over 50% of the men and women have substance o abuse issues. all of these things prompted me addiction.re about doctors, surgeons, they never got any of this training. hence the miss prescribing that happens is not surprising -- the misprescribing that happens is not surprising. federal organizations and are all really recognizing the strong need to educate medical students and tr ainees now in addiction and understanding the brain biology
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and how substances like alcohol, heroin, and other opioids like percocet bind to birth of the brain that control decision-making, craving. the amygdala, the emotional center, the fight or flight, these substances are hijacking the brain and preventing people from really controlling their behavior. charlie: i don't know how long ago it was when i first met you. what are we learning today? have an enormous amount with respect to have drugs actually hijack. they hijack circuits that are there from evolution for us to survive as a issues and individuals. they take them -- they take them
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over and trigger adaptations, new pathways that favor the motivation to take the drug at the expense of everything else. the changes by these drugs are very long-lasting. when you stop taking the drugs and say i don't have a problem .t all, that is not correct and it is a chronic disease of the brain. what the evidence shows is continued care for addiction, just like you have for hypertension or diabetes. at will not be able to here -- to curate but we can treat it and patients can live normal lives. charlie: you're gone through this and know it firsthand. peter: it is where i been to the table. i am sober a 27 years.
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when i was going through my darkest days, i lost everything. what opioid did to me i can do to myself. i gave it away. it was more important than my wife, daughter, money -- charlie: because of the pain? peter: i had gotten into it and couldn't come out of it. it was so strong. it is a brain disease and i'm glad we are putting it on the table. i didn't want to lose everything. my dignity, my respect, my daughter, who is so precious to me. the drug this sort of like this. do you want the drugs or do you want your daughter? do you have a choice? i want my daughter but i need the drugs to be with my daughter. i consider myself one of the lucky ones. anyone can get sober. he can put someone on an island for a couple months and you will get sober. this is an about getting sober. it is how do we stay sober. had you put a day together and got to the second day?
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what do you do? had you get out of that quicksand? the thing -- how do you get out of the quicksand? the thing that is killing us. --e a street network treatment works. i went to nine different treatment centers. short-term to long-term. wentast treatment center i to is the same organization i went to. a long-term treatment center. i went in there after three and a half years. everyone doesn't have to go to treatment for three and a half years. money was different then. there were guys that lived in treatment for four and five years. there was more money available. the point is, if someone had cut this off of the second or third treatment center and given up and said we are not paying for this, i would not be here today. every time a person relax, it is one step closer to them getting sober or dying.
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i know what i have. the disease is vicious. charlie: you say i know what i have. peter: i know what i have and i know quite am. i might not want to be -- and i know what i have. i might not want to be a drug .ddict it is a difficult situation. the only thing i have to do is not drink and not drug. am given this life to do what i do now and carry the message. peter: what happened at the glory side service center? charlie: it is a wonderful organization that has been service for many years. hiv/aids,th opioids, mental addiction -- mental health. there are people on the streets during caroline and after a month or two of being pregnant, they realize they can do
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something. they can live with us by the time they're pregnant, have their baby in bellevue, and live with us for a three-year in a safe environment will we will teach them how to take -- up for -- lived with us for up to a year in a safe environment and we will teach them how to live without drugs. ofrlie: what do you think the president talking about nih and taking the first steps for a public-private partnership to develop non-addictive alternatives and treatments? dr. volkow: this is a very important initiative we have been working on since the beginning of the summer. is we are going to solve this crisis by every buddy getting -- by every party getting involved in it. industry can play an extremely important role.
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we did have a sufficiently good medications that didn't have side effects. we need better pain medications. the science is out there to take them and develop into products, which is what pharma does. the patients and their families are the ones that -- why do you think they need to move this forward? how can we develop new formulations for medications that can help people addicted to opioids be able to cover? imagine being addicted to heroin and go to a day-to-day basis to a clinic. it is an hour away. you have to make it every day, will i go to the clinic are no? how about a medication you can take every week or month that
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will prevent you from overdosing or relapsing? how can we create this partnership to plan the second of research -- this type of research? how do we also create better treatment intervention that are more effective in reducing overdoses? value here the lacing of heroine with very potent analogs like fentanyl where patients are required three or four doses. can we develop more longer-lasting drugs that can protect and revert patients better? are medications that if you're a risk person, you can give it to you such risk person, youe it to you such that if you -- [no audio] this is why we have innovation and science. science transforms the way we solve problems. we arecine, that is what
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for other diseases. charlie: let me turn to dr. roy. give your assessment of what the president that and where you think we need to focus for the future. dr. roy: i believe the president's message is moving in the right direction. we certainly need funding but let us make it there. there are people right now struggling and dying of a disease that is preventable. we know how to treat people with addiction. there are three fda medications available now. thised to get people treatment. of the 23 million americans, only 10% access treatments. can you imagine if i was told only 10% of my diabetic nations got treatment? that means the rest would be dying of heart disease, strokes, and kidney failure. by the way, i would probably lose my medical license. seemubstance disorder, we to be fine with that and that is unacceptable. we need to get people to treatment they need.
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medications but we need to intervene in several stages. obviously the late stage were people are overdosing and dying. but we need to able to treat -- withications medications and counseling but we need better tools to screen undiagnosed so training doctors to make sure they recognize and do that. also prevention. i would be amiss if we did not focus on the ruse of addiction, which is really pain and suffering and for as long as human beings exist, pain and suffering will exist. if we do not address that, people will continue to self medicate. peter: i like what the doctor said bellamy at this. part of the equation has to be taken -- but let me add this to us. art of the equation has to be taken -- part of this has to be taken into consideration. the stigma and shame.
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to come oni wanted here and share this personal story is perhaps this gives courage to people. when i come on a show like yours as someone in recovery for a significant amount of time, government audience there is hope. whether there is one treatment -- it reminds the audience there is hope. wanted say i'm looking at 27 years. there is hope and this is what i have to do. hopefully, someone is listening saying maybe i can do something and should pick up the phone. there is treatment. we need more money for it but there are centers available today. it is the stigma and shame. i think with the viewing audience needs to hear at least for me is there is a tremendous amount of hope. i know what that is like because of the very end, there were really dark days. somehow, and never gave up. with the grace of god and good
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fortune, i got sober and was able to stay sober. i hope someone listens to me and says if he is on there and sober with his terrible bottom, it is the most impactful story i can share with you tonight. i really commend this gentleman. first of all, i congratulate him on his recovery and i cannot emphasize enough how storytelling of success and the work he is doing, we need far more organizations like this to provide care. science and evidence-based data from people like us and stories of recovery from this gentleman from the lower east side service center. that is what we need. ♪
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charlie: robert plant's best known of the front man for one of the most successful bands in rock history, led zeppelin. rolling stones ranked him the best lead singer of all time. albums.w think is an 11 the new york times called it "a swirling mix of deep blues, heavyweight." here's a look at the single bluebirds over the mountain. ♪ mountain.ds over the
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thingsver bluebirds over the mountain bring my baby back to me. did you simply know -- leonard cohen talked about this. voice,thahe had a great not the best but one that people wanted to hear. >> with the age of some sonic it could be -- i don't know, a classroom or something like that. i could hear something else going on outside of the spoken and outside of just singing on my bicycle. i heard this other voice coming through i was infatuated by it, a guess. but then people
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noticed. the more people notice, the more and more you geared it out. -- you figured it out. cause and effect. you begin your plan very naively. for a guy who just things at the end of everything, there is a lot of instrumentation going out around you. people are part more musically talented than the front man. great -- man gets this i don't know. it is like -- i could pick -- all sorts of rhythms these guys are creating. i can fly through in mimic it, i can join in. charlie: they give you with the sound the place to carry this forward robert:. robert:sure and make an inference -- a place to carry this forward. robert: sure, and i make an inference.
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following notations from a guitar or whatever was to try to get in with them crazing -- cravings of a very rude scat. -- they give me something to do and some very long solos, as well. i could come in and come out very long sustained notes of sometimes gibberish. charlie: you are celebrating your 50th year with led zeppelin next year? robert: it is true. in 1968, there was a collision of mine and a gift. ceased. ago that charlie:charlie: has it been that long? but 50 years ago it came together in 1968. describe what you just did. a collision of -- robert: sound, mine, intention, energy. they own.
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when we were really young, a lot of things were boom. robert: don't remind me. -- charlie: don't remind me. a grammy for best rock album. robert: yeah. charlie: still doing it. still doing it. robert: there is a lot of romance about it because it did not blow itself out of the water . it did not go on too long. it just stopped. charlie: you mean led zeppelin. robert: that was the deal when we got together at the beginning. that would be it. we couldn't carry on -- if we cannot carry on as four, that would be it. people, only have four it is hard to think about full-time replacement. charlie: do ever listen to this music? how did you come about carry fire? robert: a lot of people said that is a good picture and i said who is it. charlie: you like it. robert: yes.
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a little more stern than i would like. charlie: how did it come about? robert: the same guys i have been working with on and off 2001, we venture together with a little bit of changing personnel. we went around the world with the previous record. i spent some time living in the united states when i finally went back -- united states. when i finally went back to seeain, we reconnected to if i have anything left. this is the second one. this is the first time i made a record with the same people twice since 1977i think, more or less -- 1977i think, more or less. this was a great place to be. it is very expressive. charlie: what about carry fire? robert: that is a tough job, but
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we all do it. it is marking time and all the leaveand effect that he around you. and you have to go back. as rights and the stuff that is right you have to make it even more relevant and impactful charlie:. .ho wrote thes . charlie: who wrote these? robert: my chums and myself. we a lot ofoom and ideas. each of these guys has his own studio set up and works around the globe and other projects too. every time we think there is enough material interesting enough to put into the cauldron, we convene, we get together and play out. charlie: i heard you say there
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are not many frenchmen left and you named three. stewart., and rod a front man is what my definition? robert:robert: a guy who cannot hide -- cannot hide. who of course there are a lot of other people around. but here in britain. o guys were ar ound a little before me. also from the who. charlie: i think you should have a celebration. and i could come to that party. robert: i would like to see you by the drinks. [laughter] charlie: it is a skill that is it?nd voice, too, isn't it is a presence because you cannot hide. robert: to a degree. ago, ita long time
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was a little more bonus on moreidual musicality -- onerous in terms of individual musicality. charlie: do you sing when nobody is listening? robert: yeah. i have various songs that alter time have come back to me. i was a huge fan of anything -- of benny king when he was with the directors and left and all that stuff. and lefthe drifters and all that stuff. my mom was not keen on me singing. she knew better than most. but she gave me all of benny king's songs. ys, we zeppelin da
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were signed to atlantic records. charlie: this was early i assume. robert: yes. off we went. label stablemates were everybody from bruce brand, the coasters, the drifters, ray charles. obviously, atlantic decided it was more revenue from getting a few of these english bands over. i think a lot of the holy, -- ed upon decisions looked a little bit offbeat. they signed the dusty springfield, which was great. where a great company and i got to know benny king very well. everie: everyone i have
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talked to from the british music scene, there is a direct line and wherever they were. whether london, liverpool, wherever they were to the blues in america. robert: magnificent. every morning and still is to me. straight on it. just yet the day going. charlie: do you, really? who is on your playlist? texas: a guide from someoneatchbox, which borrowed and the beatles took it on later. it is one of the best displays of singing and guitar. it is like the ring of light coming through in a recording from 1929. just fantastic. charlie: you want to be inducted into the rock 'n roll hall of fame as a solo artist? robert: effective place to be really? i do not know. -- is that a good place to be really?
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i don't know. i don't know of the validity of it. i don't know. there's not enough room for the ribbons on my chest. charlie: that is true. you can put them on your back. robert: yes. start having them under my arms. i went to buckingham palace and i said i cannot go there. but he's also going to see inside? you have got to go and get your gong, dad. i did and as i was standing in the line, i look in the public gallery and i see my three kids. i have never seen him looking so smart. charlie: thank you for coming. great to see you. .obert: you too who knew that phones would start doing everything?
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yeha. sure do. $38 a night. ok, one driven you are out. >> come on! it is going to melt outside. bobby. >> thank you very much. >> you are not welcome. ♪ >> let us go anyway. can you give us some paints, please? said we have asthma and we have to eat ice cream right away. >> there you go. >> there has already been a dead fish in the pool. >> we are trying to get it back alive. boobies!
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boobies! >> you're a disgrace. >> new job? >> yeah. >> you are not my father. >> i do not want to be your father. >> you cannot treat me like this. >> you don't think everybody knows what is up? >everybody. >> she is about to cry. we can always so when adults are about to cry. >> where is my mommy going? >> we are just talking. we need to figure something out. >> c, back to you on a safari -- see, i took you on a safari. have a nice day.
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>> love you, bobby. >> i love you, too. charlie: i am pleased to have sean baker at the table for the first time. welcome. what do you think is instructive about the lives and capturing the story you tell of people living on the margin? sean: i think i approached each film -- each film is a response to what i am not seeing, i think. film and tv atry least in u.s. cinema. i think my approach to it is very simple. the more stories that are told communities,lized subcultures, and minorities, the less marginalized they will be. it is very simple. with each film of mine -- charlie: because why?
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in other words, if you show stories about the lives, they will be less marginalized because people would understand more about them and something will change about them? sean: i think it is about putting a human face on perhaps communities that we often look at from a distance or are hidden. co-screenwriter stories --ed to tell tempted to tell stories in a culture that is not necessarily focused on in that way. i think by telling a universal story, showing the commenters that make us all one, because all human, i think what it does is the audience -- and expands people's -- it allows audiences can identify with this
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person even though i thought i en able tod have be able because they're outside of my circle. i think that is once that toward allowing -- charlie: a condition. have you been interested in the life of the people you portrayed here? sean: i didn't know about their life. i didn't know about the issue of the hidden homeless, quite honestly, insult my coat screenwriter -- until my co- screenwriter brought it to my attention. he brought me articles from local news media focusing on this area in orlando, florida and this juxtaposition of children growing up in motels, living in budget motels right outside of the tourist capital of the world and the place we consider the most magical place on earth for children. i was obviously taken by -- taken aback by these articles new there was
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something in there in which we could find a fictionalized story, a story line in there focusing on the lives of these individuals. of this the fact juxtaposition focusing on the children, because the children obviously is what made that juxtaposition so sad and real. i've always actually wanted to make a film about children. and been very inspired influenced by the little rascals. if you think about what they were, they were comic shorts in the great depression, in which most of the characters were living in poverty, but the focus was on kids being kids. the behavioral humor of children. thelie: it was set against background of the great depression and living in poverty. sean: exactly. i actually thought this would be our opportunity to make almost
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an updated -- or a present-day and focusing on one little girl in particular. a little girl by the name of moony, and rambunctious little six-year-o -- a rambunctious little six-year-old. charlie: this is bobby telling her and her friend she is causing to much trouble. >> i got a videotape of the kids illegally entering the utility room. i got it. >> if this happens again, you are out of here. it is only the second week of the summer and there is already a dead fish in the pool. >> we're doing an experiment. we were trying to get it back alive. that was my idea. >> and water balloons thrown at tourists. tip us!didn't
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>> are you serious? i failed as a mother. you disgraced me. >> yeah, mommy. you disgraced me. >> when your friend is you in heartache, that kid becomes your responsibility. and you have that one, too. she is from future land. you were a finite. -- you ruined my night. >> pay the man his three hours. >> i don't have any money. charlie: great casting. sean: he is incredible to work with, transformative, he really became this character of bobby. it was an honor to have worked with him. charlie: in doing research, he went to a lot of motels. looking for what? sean: for information. we were from outside of that
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world and we needed to -- we wanted to -- will, we approached this -- well, we approached this in a journalistic way. we interviewed people. we approached people who are interested in telling their stories. this involved us speaking to residents of the motels, the small business owners, some of the motel managers, and some of the agencies that provided social services to people in need in the area. particular,e man in a motel manager, who really opens up his world to us in a way. he was our passports in. she felt this was a story that should be told. this was a story that should be told. he was managing one of those budget motels across the street from the magic castle hotel,
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where we shot. he was in a very tough position when he was actually working there. it has since closed. he had compassion for the families and the kids were there. he understood the struggles they were going for. through. yet he had a job he had to hold on to. he knew perhaps any night and he might have to evict one of these families and put them out on the street if they cannot come up with the nightly rate. it was a tough position for him. i could see this obvious -- this compassion, but i also saw a distance that he would keep from them. parentalreluctant, figure in many ways. i saw it not only with him but a few of the other motel managers. i think that inspired our bobby character. charlie: where the locals wary of you being there? sean: yes, of course, at first.
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they did not know how we were going to depict the area. we did have people asking us about our approach to it. and then also just you have parents from the local motels, some of the residents not trusting us at first. we had to basically gain their trust. i think by the time we're for the mostting part, at least with the motels we were shooting at them agencies we were working with, we ran a very -- it was very collaborative. in a place where i felt the people who wanted to be involved had a very enthusiastic approach to it. they wanted us to do it correctly. some people are taking note of the fact that you don't have a lot of plot developments here.
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almost a sense where you are living with these people and most don't have a pot. sean: that is what i think -- most summers do not have a plot. that is why i am thinking. if you look at the summers of your youth, most summers do not have a three-part structure. a heavyle who want plotted story might not be able to see on the surface, but it is there. .harlie: the casting of moony, nan: she is brooklyn prince. that is the name she was born with. i really believe she is a prodigy. one of the most incredible actors i've ever
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worked with at any age. she understands acting. watch her work is really incredible. she was holding her own with willem defoe. first off, i said i wasn't going found athis film as i mcfarland. spanky i think we will have to hold the production off until i found this little girl. local. orlando-based. i wanted all the kids to be from the local area. a local casting company by the name of crowd shot had her in their database and suggested we see her and she walked into the room and within seconds won us over. spahad those qualities that nky had. the energy and wit and cuteness,
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cheeks,le puff but we had no idea she had not a motion, as well. she has to deliver tears and really deliver an emotional performance. in ank she truly does that way that she understood her character and she understood the --dicament and circumstance charlie: choose your protagonist. sean: yes. i put her in the same camp as jodie foster and mickey rooney, a child actor who was born to do this unless it so incredibly -- and loved it so incredibly much that i think she will have a bright future. and anecdotes. we had a limited number of hours to work with our children every day because of child labor laws. you get the day and it was like
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♪ yousef: welcome to the "best of bloomberg markets: middle east." i am yousef gamal el-din in re. -- riyadh. the head of the saudi arabian sovereign wealth fund is targeting 2 trillion dollars of assets under management by 2030. he announced his plans to build a $500 billion city along the coastline. total tells
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