♪ >> from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: we begin this evening with a focus on the opioid addiction problem. it claims over 100 lives daily. today president trump declared , it a public health emergency. in a speech alongside families affected by the opioid epidemic, the president called it the worst drug crisis in american history. pres. trump: my administration is officially declaring the opa opioid crisis a national public health emergency under federal

law. why i am directing all executive agencies to use every appropriate emergency authority to fight the opioid crisis. this marks a critical step in confronting the extraordinary challenge that we face. charlie: the president's announcement fulfills a longtime abuse,to address opioid but falls short in declaring a state of emergency. joining me from washington is jenna johnson, a reporter for "the washington post." i'm pleased to have her here on this program this evening. tell me about the president and what he is attempting to do. jenna: he said he wants out those who are already addicted and prevent more people from becoming addicted to opioids. a nationalg this health emergency, he is getting help more quickly to people. they are setting up a

tele-program so that people living in isolated towns can get treatment remotely. they're hoping to expand the number of treatment places, where those on medicaid can go and get treatments. they might make some grant money available through the department of labor for those who are addicted and need a job. who are perhaps having trouble finding work because they have a criminal record. a lot of what is happening with this national public emergency -- national public health emergency is they are trying to more people. one thing that is not happening with this is getting more money to the problem. the white house is saying they hope congress will step up. dedicate millions more to this fight. experts say it could cost tens of billions of dollars to properly address this. charlie: there are reasons why

he did not call it a national state of emergency. what are they? jenna: these are two different things. he has a commission on this crisis. they said he can pick either one of these. if he declared a national emergency, which is what he said he would do, that would be just like a tornado or a hurricane for you have targeted areas that need help very quickly and they need a lot of money very quickly. had he done that, certain states are certain areas would have been able to apply for federal disaster dollars. the white house is saying they at that route didn't allow them to do anything that they could do with a public health emergency. back in 2009, the obama administration did this with that influenza virus going around. what this does is it allows the

department of health and human services to relax some of the regulations and to make an effort to get help out there more quickly. the white house says they picked this option because they thought it better addressed the issue. charlie: what difference will it make that the president says homeland security and the postal service says they will prevent fentanyl from coming in from china? jenna: this is been a big issue. the white house and others are looking at how are these trucks coming into the country -- drugs coming into the country. those who are added to getting these drugs through a variety of ways. sometimes they were legally prescribed and then sold on a black market. in other cases, guess they are coming in illegally into the country through the mail. the country is hoping to crack down on that with the postal

service. this is something already underway and has been underway for a while. again, looking at every avenue possible, just trying to cut off the supply chains. charlie: originally, tom marino was going to be the drug czar. he has withdrawn his nomination because of controversy that developed with the drug enforcement agency. when do we expect the president to nominate another drug czar? jenna: they haven't said yet. we are also without a permanent health secretary because tom price stepped down. those are very key positions. the white house said they are urgent spots that the president wants to fill, but they did not give us any indication as to when we could expect to see some nominees. charlie: what did the president -- what is the next step for the administration for the federal government?

jenna: money. this all comes down to money. a lot of advocates that we talked with today said the president can call this whatever kind of emergency he wants to call it. what we really need is more money. more money for treatment. more money to help people. just more money. the white house is pointing to congress, saying they're the ones that need to find that. that is what we're all waiting to see. the initiatives can help make a little bit of progress on top of what already is being done, the people are saying they paid -- but people are saying they need billions of dollars to really do the sweeping changes they want. charlie: when you look at the politics of this thing, how does it play? jenna: this is an issue that is impacting the entire country. the really is not a community that has not been affected by

this opioid crisis. talk to has someone they know that has dealt with this, or perhaps has died of an overdose. this is especially hitting the states where the president won. were critical to his big win last year. on the east coast, like pennsylvania. in the midwest, like ohio and indiana. a lot of these more rural communities that have seen jobs dry up, this is really hurting them. i talked people in small communities who say their local mortuary is having a hard time keeping up with all of the bodies that keep showing up. this is the death rate that small communities cannot keep up with. it is young people who are supposed to be the future of

these communities. this is something that is really hurting the country and the president's supporters. he is hearing from them and hearing that they want to take care of this problem. to follow through on his campaign promise to make this go away. charlie: thank you so much. jenna: thank you for having me. charlie: back in a moment. ♪ charlie: we continue our discussion with a distinguished panel of experts. the director of the national institute on drug abuse at the national institute of health. from boston, an addiction medical physician and the former chief of addiction medicine. with me is the vice president of the lower east side service center. i am pleased to have each of them on this program. tell me where we are today. we've spoken to what the

president said. tell me where we are today in terms of the opioid crisis and what is necessary, in your judgment, to get our hands around this. >> it is worse than it has ever been. i work for an agency and the city, the lower east side service center, that has been fighting the battle for the last 58 years. there was a time when it was confined areas in new york city , like the lower east side and harlem and bad parts of brooklyn, but it has changed. but it has changed. now, it has affected everyone. the affluent, the whites, and wonderful areas like long island and staten island. charlie: in rural areas as urban areas. peter: exactly. it used to be confined to pockets of minorities but that has changed. more people are using opioids than ever before.

the cdc said or than 140 people overdose every day. think about that. it is a complex problem. charlie: almost everybody knows somebody that has been a victim. peter: absolutely. this is the thing people do not talk about. people don't talk about this because it is embarrassing. it is shameful. nowadays i cannot think -- i've , been in the field for quite some time. i cannot think of anyone i talked to that isn't affected directly or indirectly through a friend, family member. i find people are talking about it more than they have ever talked about it before. charlie: how did we get here? >> we got here probably 25, 30 years ago. perhaps having the good intentions of trying to treat patients suffering from pain but without the sufficient knowledge. we became complacent and started e opioidprescrib medication under the belief that

if a patient has pain, they would not become addicted and under the belief you can increase the dosage of opioids to high levels without risk in patient.ife of the unfortunately, neither of those things turned out to be right. when prescription lets a diversion of the medications. -- one prescription led to diversion of the medications. some of them were becoming addicted and overdosing. we became complacent as a health care system. on the other hand, we have the need of 25 million people in the united states that suffer from chronic pain daily. that is a huge number, and it can be quite devastating. charlie: i read somewhere one in 10 people who get surgery in this country will go on to become a continued opioid user. dr. volkow: it is interesting.

my father was just hospitalized for a that viral infection. one of the nurses told me what she is seeing is people in genuine pain are being under under prescribed -- are being under prescribed. i agree that there are many patients in whom opioid painkillers are actually clinically indicated. my concern now is the pendulum is swinging too far the other way and that patients who are clinically indicated to get opioid painkillers are not getting it. having said that, i agree with dr. volkow, doctors do not have the training they need to properly and appropriately prescribe medications. i am an addiction expert now,

but truth be told i never learned any of this during medical school or residency. i went to really good institutions. everything i've learned and i'm talking about now has been on the job training. were over 50% of the men and women have substance abuse issues. when i was a doctor to boston's homeless population, to whom the leading cause of death was overdose, all of these things prompted me to learn more about addiction. doctors, surgeons, they never got any of this training. hence the misprescribing that is happening is not surprising. charlie: no one knew how to deal with pain? >> federal organizations and agencies are all really recognizing the strong need to educate medical students and trainees now in addiction and understanding the brain biology and how substances like alcohol,

heroin, and other opioids like percocet bind to birth of the dust bind to parts of the brain that control decision-making, craving, the amygdala, the emotional center, the fight or flight. these substances are hijacking the brain and preventing people from really controlling their behavior. charlie: i don't know how long ago it was when i first met you. because of your expertise in the area of addiction, what are we learning today? dr. volkow: we have an enormous amount with respect to have drugs actually hijack. that term is very upper pro -- very upper pro. they hijack circuits that are there from evolution for us to survive as a issues and individuals. they take them -- they take them over and trigger adaptations, new pathways that favor the

motivation to take the drug at the expense of everything else. the changes by these drugs are very long-lasting. when you stop taking the drugs and say i don't have a problem at all, that is not correct. the changes are still there. that is why addiction is a disease of the brain. it is a chronic disease of the brain. intervention, what we actually are -- what the evidence shows is continued care for addiction, just like you have for hypertension or diabetes. you will not be able to cure it, not now, unfortunately, but we can treat it and patients can live normal lives. charlie: you're gone through this and know it firsthand. peter: it is where i been to the table. i am sober almost 27 years. when i was going through my

days, 27-28 years ago, i lost everything. what opioid did to me i can do to myself. i gave it away. it was more important than my wife, daughter, money -- charlie: because of the pain? peter: i had gotten into it and couldn't come out of it. it is so strong. it is a brain disease and i'm glad we are putting it on the table. i didn't want to lose everything. my dignity, my respect, my daughter, who is so precious to me. the drug this sort of like this. do you want the drugs or do you want your daughter? do you have a choice? i want my daughter but i need the drugs to be with my daughter. you cannot compete with this. it is one of the most powerful things out there. i consider myself one of the lucky ones. anyone can get sober. you can put someone on rikers island for a couple months and you will get sober. this is an about getting sober.

-- it is not about getting sober, it is about how do we stay sober? had you put a day together and got to the second day? what do you do? had you get out of that quicksand? the thing -- how do you get out of the quicksand? the thing that is killing us. i went to nine different treatment centers. short-term to long-term. the last treatment center i went to is the same organization i work for. they have a long-term treatment center called su casa. i went in there after three and a half years. everyone doesn't have to go to treatment for three and a half years. money was different then. there were guys that lived in treatment for four and five years. it was a different culture and more money available. the point is, if someone had cut this off of the second or third treatment center and given up and said we are not paying for this, i would not be here today. every time a person relax, it is it is one step closer to them either getting sober or dying.

i know what i have. the disease is vicious. charlie: you say i know what i have. peter: i know what i have, and i know who i am. i might not want to be a drug addict. it is a difficult situation. the only thing i have to do is not drink and not drug. i am given this life to do what i am doing now and carry the message. charlie: what happens at the lower east side service center? peter: it is a wonderful organization that has been service for many years. we deal with opioids, hiv/aids, mental health. there are people on the streets and after a month or two of being pregnant, they realize they can do something. they can come to us and live in our treatment center from the

time they are pregnant. had their baby in bellevue. and then come back and live with us for up to a year in a safe environment where we will taper them off of the drugs and teach them how to take care of their infant. we have been in assistance for 58 years, but have had this program for 16 or 17 years. charlie: what do you think of the president talking about nih and taking the first steps for a public-private partnership to develop non-addictive alternatives and treatments? dr. volkow: this is a very important initiative we have been working on since the beginning of the summer. the idea is we are going to solve this crisis by everybody getting involved in it. industry can play an extremely important role. it is to front -- it is 2 front. we did have a sufficiently good medications that didn't have

side effects. we need better pain medications. the science is out there to take them and develop into products, which is what pharma does. how can we get that partnership between pharmaceuticals and the government? and very importantly, the patients and their families. why do you think they need to move this forward? how can we develop new formulations for medications that can help people addicted to opioids be able to recover? imagine what it is to be addicted to heroin and go to a methadone clinic on a daily basis. it is an hour away. you have to make it every day, will i go to the clinic are no? how about a medication you can take every week or month that will prevent you from overdosing or relapsing?

we have the technology. can we create this partnership to advance this type of research? a very important area we have been discussing is how do we also create better treatment interventions that are more effective in reducing overdoses? now you hear the lacing of heroin with very potent analogs like fentanyl where patients are required three or four doses. can we develop more potent and longer-lasting that can protect and revert patients better? are medications that if you're a high risk person, they can give it to use such that it decreases your risk of overdosing. this is why we have innovation and science. science transforms the way we solve problems. in medicine, that is what we are for other diseases. charlie: let me turn to dr. roy.

give your assessment of what the president said and where you , think we need to focus for the future. dr. roy: i believe the president's message is moving in the right direction. we certainly need funding but let's be really clear. there are people right now struggling and dying of a disease that is preventable. it is not a mystery. we know how to treat people with opioid addiction. there are three fda medications available now. particularly methadone and suboxone. we need to get people this treatment. of the 23 million americans, only 10% access treatments. can you imagine if i was told only 10% of my diabetic nations -- diabetic patients got treatment? that means the rest would be dying of heart disease, strokes, and kidney failure. by the way, i would probably lose my medical license. for substance disorder, we seem to be fine with that and that is unacceptable. we need to get people to need.atment they

life-saving medication. we need to intervene in several stages. stage wherehe late people are overdosing and dying and need narcan, but we need to be able to treat with medications and counseling. we need better tools to screen and diagnose, training doctors to make sure they recognize and do that. also prevention. i would be amiss if we did not focus on the roots of addiction, which is really pain and suffering. for as long as human beings exist, pain and suffering will exist. if we do not address that, people will continue to self medicate. peter: i like what the doctor said. let me add this to us. that has toequation be taken into consideration is the stigma and shame. the reason i wanted to come on here and share this personal story is perhaps this gives

hope to people out there. the doctor is right. there is a small percentage of people that gets help. when i come on a show like yours as someone in recovery for a significant amount of time, it reminds the audience that there is hope. whether it is one treatment center or nine treatment centers . i'm sober three years, five years, 27 years, hopefully someone is listening saying maybe i can do something. maybe i should pick up the phone. there is treatment. we need more money for it but there are centers available today. it is the stigma and shame. i think with the viewing audience needs to hear at least from me is there is a tremendous amount of hope. without hope we are desperate. i know what that is like. at the very end there were really dark days. somehow, i never go gave up.

with the grace of god and good fortune, i got sober and was able to stay sober. i hope someone listens to me and says if he is on there and sober with his terrible bottom, it is the most impactful story i can share with you tonight. dr. roy: i really commend this gentleman. first of all, i congratulate him on his recovery and i cannot emphasize enough how storytelling stories of success, like this gentleman, and the work he is doing at the lower east side service center, we need more organizations like this to provide care. science and evidence-based data from people like us and stories of recovery from this gentleman from the lower east side service center. that is what we need. ♪

♪ charlie: robert plant's best known as the front man for one of the most successful bands in rock history, led zeppelin. "rolling stones" ranked him the best lead singer of all time. three now think is an 11 albums. "the new york times" called it "a swirling mix of deep blues, mountain music, and z epplin-like heavyweight." here's a look at the single "bluebirds over the mountain."

♪ >> bluebirds over the mountain eager over things bluebirds over the mountain bring my baby back to me. charlie: did you simply know -- leonard cohen talked about this. he had a great voice, not the perfect voice, what a great one people wanted to hear. >> something was going on. i did not know what it was, but i was actuated with -- in the age of some sonic device, it could be -- i don't know, a glass room or something like that, and i could hear this other voice coming through. i was infatuated by. -- infatuated by it.

charlie: but then people noticed. the more people notice, the more and more they wanted you to figure it out. robert: it is cause and effect. you begin your plan very naively. for a guy who just things at the sharp end of everything, there is a lot of instrumentation going out around you. are often more musically talented than the front man. the front man gets this great -- i don't know. it is like -- i could pick ourselves up -- all sorts of rhythms these guys are creating. i can fly through in mimic it, i can join in. charlie: they give you with the sound the place to carry this forward. robert: sure and make an inference -- a place to carry this forward. zepplin, iy days of

mimicryway to learn the by others and -- by learning guitar tabs or whatever was to try to get in with them crazing -- cravings of a very rude scat. some things -- they give me something to do and some very long solos, as well. i could come in and come out very long sustained notes of sometimes gibberish. charlie: you are celebrating your 50th year with led zeppelin next year? robert: it is true. in 1968, there was a collision gifts.sa and ago that ceased. charlie: has it been that long? but 50 years ago it came together in 1968. describe what you just did. a collision of -- robert: sound, mind, intention, energy. everything, boom.

when we were really young, a lot of things were boom. perhaps boom too soon. charlie: don't remind me. a grammy for best rock album. robert: yeah. charlie: still doing it. still doing it. robert: there is a lot of romance about it, too, because it did not blow itself out of the water. it did not go on too long. it just stopped. charlie: you mean led zeppelin. robert: that was the deal when we got together at the beginning. that would be it. if we could not carry this on forward, that would be it. when you only have four people, it is hard to think about full-time replacement. charlie: do ever listen to this music? how did you come about carry fire? robert: a lot of people said that is a good picture and i said who is it. charlie: you like it. robert: yes. a little more stern than i would

like. charlie: how did it come about? robert: the same guys i have been working with on and off since 2001, and this is, in effect, our first -- our fourth adventure together. we venture together with a little bit of changing personnel. we went around the world with the previous record. i spent some time living in the united states, and when i finally went back to britain, we reconnected to see if i have anything left. this is the second one. this is the first time i made a record with the same people 1977, more or less. this was a great place to be. it is very expressive. charlie: what about "carry fire?" robert: that is a tough job, but we all do it.

it is marking time and all the cause and effect that you leave around you. you have to go back and try to put some of it right, and the stuff that is right you have to make it even more relevant and impactful. charlie: who wrote these? robert: my chums and myself. charlie: did you write these collectively? asert: not quite so lavish this, but we were in a tiny, little room, and there were a lot of different ideas. each of these guys has his own studio setup and works around the globe and other projects too. every time we think there is enough material interesting enough to put into the cauldron, we convene, we get together and play out. charlie: i heard you say there

are not many frontmen left. you named three. you, mick, and rod stewart. a front man is what my -- what, by definition? robert: a guy who cannot hide. of course, there are a lot of other people around. but here in britain, those two guys were around a little before me. also robert from the who. charlie: i think you should have a celebration. and i could come to that party. robert: i would like to see you buy the drinks. [laughter] charlie: it is a skill that is beyond voice, too, isn't it? it is a presence, because you cannot hide. robert: to a degree. in days a long time ago, it was

a little more focus on individual musicality. charlie: do you sing when nobody is listening? robert: yeah. i have various songs that alter time havel through come back to me. i was a huge fan of benny king when he was with the directors and left and all that stuff. -- with the drifters and left and all that stuff. my mom was not keen on me singing. she knew better than most. but she gave me all of benny king's songs. in the zeppelin days, we were signed to atlantic records. for us as british musicians,

that was beyond -- charlie: this was early i assume. robert: yes. off we went. our label stablemates were everybody from bruce brand, the coasters, the drifters, ray charles. obviously, atlantic decided it was more revenue from getting a few of these english bands over. i think a lot of the holy, looked upon their decisions as a little bit offbeat. they signed the dusty springfield which was great. but we were really in great company, and i got to know benny king very well. charlie: everyone i have ever talked to from the british music scene, there is a direct line

from wherever they were, london or liverpool, to the blues in america. robert: yes, and it is magnificent to me. i still listen to it every morning. straight on it. just to get the day going. charlie: do you, really? who is on your playlist? from texasroup called "matchbox" which someone borrowed and the beatles took it on later. it is one of the best displays of singing and guitar. it is like the ring of light coming through in a recording from 1929. just fantastic. charlie: you want to be inducted into the rock 'n roll hall of fame as a solo artist? robert: is that a good place to be, really? i do not know. i am not sure of the validity of

it. i don't know. there's not enough room for the ribbons on my chest. when i went to buckingham palace -- charlie: you can put them on your back. robert: when i went to buckingham palace and i said i cannot go there. but my kids said, "how else are we going to see inside?" you have got to go and get your gong, dad. i did and as i was standing in the line, i look in the public gallery and i see my three kids. i have never seen him looking so smart. charlie: thank you for coming. great to see you. robert: you too. ♪

♪ his 2017 film "tangerine" was shot entirely on an iphone. anthony lane of the new yorker writes that he has taken something from american life and has spawned something sad. here is a look at the trailer for his newest film.

>> sure do. $38 a night. and you are out. >> come on! it is going to melt outside. >> but bobby. >> thank you very much. >> you are not welcome. ♪ >> the man who lives here gets arrested a lot. were not supposed to go visit, but let's go anyways. change, please? the doctors said we have asthma and we have to eat ice cream right away. >> there you go. >> there has already been a dead fish in the pool. >> we are trying to get it back alive. >> boobies!

boobies! >> you're a disgrace. >> new job? >> yeah. if you are working, who was looking after -- >> you are not my father. >> i do not want to be your father. >> you cannot treat me like this. >> you don't think everybody knows what is up? everybody. >> she is about to cry. i can always tell when adults are about to cry. >> where is my mommy going? >> we are just talking. we need to figure something out. ♪ >> see, i took you on a safari. ♪ on.et's go, come >> have a nice day.

>> love you, bobby. >> i love you, too. charlie: i am pleased to have sean baker at the table for the first time. welcome. >> thank you very much for having me. charlie: what do you think is instructive about the lives and stories you capture and tell about people living on the margin? sean: i think i approached each film -- each film is a response to what i am not seeing, i think, in contemporary film and tv at least in u.s. cinema. i think my approach to it is very simple. the more stories that are told about marginalized communities, subcultures, and minorities, the less marginalized they will be. it is very simple. with each film of mine --

charlie: because what? in other words, if you show stories about the lives, they will be less marginalized because people would understand more about them and something will change about them? sean: i think it is about putting a human face on perhaps communities that we often look at from a distance or are hidden. my co-screenwriter and i have in apted to tell stories culture or subculture that is not necessarily focused on in that way. i think by telling a universal story, showing the common human, which make us all i think what it does is it allows audiences to say, i can identify with this person even though i thought i never would have been able to because they're outside of my circle.

i think that is once that toward --one step towards allowing charlie: that we are all human. have you been interested in the life of the people you portrayed here? sean: i didn't know about their life. i didn't know about the issue of the hidden homeless, quite honestly, until my co-screenwriter brought it to my attention. he brought me articles from local news media focusing on immee, nearn kiss orlando, florida, and this juxtaposition of children growing up in motels, living in budget motels right outside of the tourist capital of the world and the place we consider the most magical place on earth for children.

i was obviously taken aback by these articles and knew there was something in there in which we could find a fictionalized story, a story line in there focusing on the lives of these individuals. the fact of this juxtaposition focusing on the children, because the children obviously are what made the juxtaposition so sad and real. i've always actually wanted to make a film about children. i've been very inspired and influenced by the little rascals. if you think about what they were, they were comic shorts in the great depression in which most of the characters were living in poverty, but the focus was on kids being kids. the behavioral humor of children. charlie: it was set against the background of the great depression and living in poverty. sean: exactly. i actually thought this would be our opportunity to make almost an updated -- or a present-day

little rascals and focusing on one little girl in particular. a little girl by the name of moony, a rambunctious little six-year-old. charlie: this is bobby telling moony and her friends she is causing to much trouble. >> i got a videotape of the kids illegally entering the utility room. >> i got it. i will talk to her. >> it is only the second week of the summer and there is already a dead fish in the pool. >> we're doing an experiment. we were trying to get it back alive. that was my idea. >> and water balloons thrown at tourists. >> they didn't tip us! >> are you serious? this is unacceptable. i have failed as a mother. you disgraced me.

>> yeah, mommy. you disgraced me. >> when your friend puts you in charge of her kid, that kid becomes your responsibility. and you have that one, too. she is from future land. >> you have to relax. killed my night. i was going to watch the game. are you going to reimburse me for my lost three hours? >> pay the man his three hours. >> i don't have any money. charlie: great casting. what did you think of william dafoe? sean: he is incredible to work with, transformative, he really became this character of bobby. it was an honor to have worked with him. charlie: in doing research, he went to a lot of motels. looking for what? sean: for information. we were from outside of that

-- well,d we wanted to we approached this in a journalistic way. we interviewed people. we approached people who are interested in telling their stories. this involved us speaking to residents of the motels, the small business owners, some of the motel managers, and some of the agencies that provided social services to people in need in the area. there was one man in particular, a motel manager, who really his world to us. in a way, he was our passports in. we felt this was a story that should be told. he was managing one of those budget motels across the street

from the magic castle hotel where we shot. he was in a very tough position when he was actually working there. it has since closed. he had compassion for the families and the kids who were there. he understood the struggles they were going through. yet, he had a job he had to hold on to. he knew, perhaps any night, he might have to evict one of these families and put them out on the street if they cannot come up with the nightly rate. it was a tough position for him. i could see this compassion, but i also saw a distance that he would keep from them. he was a reluctant parental figure in many ways. i saw it not only with him but a few of the other motel managers. i think that inspired our bobby character. charlie: were the locals wary of you being there?

sean: yes, of course, at first. they did not know how we were going to depict the area. we did have people asking us about our approach to it. and then also, you just have the parents from the local motels, some of the residents, not trusting us at first. we had to basically gain their trust. i think by the time we're actually shooting, for the most part, at least with the motels we were shooting at, the agencies we were working with, it was very collaborative. it got to a place where the people involved had a very enthusiastic approach to it. they wanted us to do it correctly. charlie: some people are taking

note of the fact that you don't have a lot of plot developments here. almost a sense where you are living with these people and don't have much sense of the plot. sean: that is what i think -- most summers do not have a plot. there is no three act structure there. if you look at the summers of your youth, most summers do not have a three-part structure. the people who want a heavy plotted story might not be able to see on the surface, but it is there. charlie: the casting of moony. sean: she is brooklynn prince. that is the name she was born with. already a hollywood name. n's,s brooklyn with two actually. i really believe she is a prodigy. she is one of the most incredible actors i've ever worked with at any age. she understands acting.

she is seven years old, but she was six years old when we shot. to watch her act was really incredible. she was holding her own with willem defoe. first off, i said i wasn't going to make this film as i found a -- this film unless i found the present day spanky mcfarland. we were going to hold off on production until i could find this little girl. she was local. orlando-based. i was very particular about that. i wanted all the kids to be from the local area. a local casting company by the name of "crowd shot" had her in their database and suggested we see her, and she walked into the room and within seconds won us over. she had those qualities that spanky had. the energy and wit and cuteness, the little puffy cheeks, but we had no idea she had not a

that she was going to be able to deliver incredibly emotional performances as well. without giving away too many spoilers, she really has to go place, a really emotional place, and she did that. ,he understood her character the predicament, and the circumstances -- charlie: she is your your protagonist. sean: yes. i put her in the same camp as jodie foster and mickey rooney, a child actor who was born to do this. is so incredibly much that i think she will have a bright future.

we had a limited number of hours to work with our children every day because of child labor laws. you get to the end of the day, and she would be upset that she had to go every day, because she truly loves acting. ♪ is this a phone?

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