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leaving every competitor, threat and challenge outmaneuvered. comcast business outmaneuver. carol: welcome to bloomberg businessweek. i'm carol massar. julia: and i'm julia chatterley. businessfocuses on the these are the men and women 50. whose accomplishments defined 2017. the entrepreneurs who may make waves next year. carol: the bloomberg businessweek 50 starts right now. ♪ carol: we are here with the
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editor-in-chief of bloomberg businessweek megan murphy. love this issue and the people you write about. what is the bloomberg 50? megan: this is the first time we have ever done this. when bloomberg thought about it, we thought, who were the 50 people who defined the global business landscape? it is always the same people on this list. when we did it, we thought, what if we did this differently and looked to find the people you have heard of? you are not going to have heard a lot of them, but who really changed the way you think, what you do, how you conduct your life or business and will be trendsetters in the future. we are really excited about the names on this list. julia: two women who defined something in 2017, rose mcgowan and ashley judd, talking about harvey weinstein. a third woman, too, that changed the landscape in media, and politics in 2017. megan: we were looking at this
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issue and the wave of sexual harassment that has spanned across industries. we are grappling with it. to try and single out anyone was hard, but the recent we chose rose mcgowan and ashley judd was because they were the ones who first came forward and that seminal new york times piece that uncovered the extent of the harvey weinstein allegations. when you think about it, we had the revelations in the tech industry, but it was that article and subsequent reporting at the new yorker that was the tsunami that has swept across so many industries and unleashed #metoo, and has so many women coming forward. we have not seen the end of these revelations, but we feel that was the tipping point with
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bravery and courage to bring voices forward. carol: and a story that will continue. another story practical have a be of legs in 2017 will robert mueller, special counsel looking into the trump campaign, connections with russia and the election. megan: politics is the hardest to do because to pick out the people that have a measurable impact in terms of getting stuff done, the list is very short in washington. offended --who has upended washington and continues to define the landscape is bob mueller, who is conducting this investigation. i would say far more wide-ranging than people expected and will continue to uncover things we don't know , even as well think we know at this point. he is the defining player in 2017 and washington. carol: very thoughtful in a world where everything is quick and short. megan: people think this is one -lesse week-less -- leak
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investigationsless in washington. julia: it goes right to the top, as well. the ghost to also the president -- it is also the president himself. megan: we used to say that this was watergate without the tapes in terms of the cover-up may be the thing that does the administration in. when we look at the figures it is picking off, it looks like michael flynn might be next in line and these things are slowing upwards, not downwards. he didn't start with the biggest fish, he started the smaller fish. mueller, youobert know what he has done in the past. julia: you were searching for political action men. what about political action women in the form of nikki haley? she has got punch. megan: she has got punch. she may be our next secretary of state. rumors continue to swirl about rex tillerson and that job. one reason we wanted to capture nikki haley is because she is a much different than people expected her to be. our photographer said she was so funny in person.
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she has such a spirited character. roleas embraced this u.n. and is the voice of foreign policy for america, the most coherent voice we have. julia: not afraid to push back on comments trump has made, particularly with regards to russia with their actions in ukraine and syria. megan: nikki haley is an ambitious figure and has her sights, potentially not only on a different cabinet role, but a different role in washington altogether. carol: we will be watching her in 2018. we talked to the editor who put this edition together. the bloomberg 50, and here is more from him. >> the process was long and involved and took most of the year. what we did was survey all of the bloomberg reporters and editors, not just in the u.s., but throughout the world. we took submissions and we sifted through all of those -- >> that's a lot of submissions. wound up with 50.
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>> what was the criteria? >> the criteria and the thing that separates this list from other lists is that the person had to have a major accomplishment in 2017. a lot of times on these lists, you will find people who could be on it in 2016, 2017, and probably 2018, and our guiding principle was that there has to have been a very strong data point, some piece of quantitative analysis that said this person belongs on this list this year. carol: what i like about this list, is we read through some of the names and we are like, of course, and some are like economists and scientists. i had no idea. fascinating. i love that part of it. >> the fun part about putting this together is that we wanted that sense of serendipity. that is all good magazine making. when you are looking through the magazine, there are some you are familiar with and others you are thinking, i have never heard of this person, so how can they be one of the most impactful
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people in global business? you read about them and they have either discovered something fascinating that maybe did not make the front page of newspapers but it was really huge. julia: let's talk about one man individual. we could give one million reasons and that would be jeff bezos. after the big shopping weekend, this is the perfect time. >> he is now worth $100 billion. not bad. his big moment came in june when he purchased whole foods for $13.7 billion. carol: it shocked all of us because it is a grocery chain. >> within a couple of hours of that announcement, the kroger's of the world, the walmarts, all combined lost $30 billion in value and this is a sign that wall street thinks there is no stopping his
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ambition to not just be the biggest online retailer, but the biggest retailer in the world. carol: that ambition includes going into space and a journal with the washington post. he is in many different sectors. bret: when you have $100 billion, you can buy a newspaper if you want and he has done these things. it was a huge year for him. he could have been on it last year, and he probably will be on next year, but the purchase of whole foods was huge. carol: another big name of course is elon musk. we spent a lot of time talking about him. he has his fingers in a lot of different parts. int: the biggest one came when he released the sedan. tesla is a competitor to detroit and it gave tesla a market cap around $50 billion which is roughly in line with gm.
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that was his huge moment. he also wants to go to space with spacex and by 2022 aims to have a colony on mars. julia: even he has admitted it is on the ambitious side. [laughter] carol: both of these companies are people who are revered individuals and everyone is rooting for them in terms of what they are doing and then you have the financial community saying, they are spending a lot of money and maybe they are not as profitable as we would like to see. it is fascinating. bret: if you look at what they have done, it is pretty amazing. carol: turning the bloomberg 50 into a cover image was the job of the creative director rob vargas. julia: talk about how you pulled this cover together this week. rob: it's obviously a very simple cover. 50. very large. julia: it is important though.
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rob: one of the things that makes this list different from others is that it is not from 50. we wanted to make that very clear, that all 50 are special in their own way. we have great photography inside but we didn't want to use any on the cover to see like they are the most prominent on the list. julia: 50 or nothing. carol: you could have put all 50 in little squares. [laughter] the inside would have been plain. julia: what about the color choices? you have gone for something very bold. they made a splash. rob: they issue is celebratory in a lot of ways. there are people who make more positive differences than others, but it is a celebratory issue and given the news cycle , when there are really tough stories, we wanted to be more bright and colorful with this. julia: up next, the goldman sachs executive revolutionaries the way banks keep shareholding
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happy. carol: plus, our conversation with the digital currency. julia: this is the bloomberg 50. ♪
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carol: welcome back to bloomberg businessweek, the bloomberg 50. i am carol massar. julia: i am julia chatterley. you can find us online at businessweek.com. one -- carol: one person featured in the bloomberg 50 -- kathleen: mr. chavez is one of those featured in the bloomberg 50. there is a plan to increase revenues by billions of dollars. >> chavez is the cfo of goldman sachs. he became the cfo in may. he was the deputy cfo getting in -- beginning in january. before that, he was the chief information officer at goldman
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sachs. he was the guy that sort of lead their technology efforts, engineering efforts. carol: interesting career switch. >> yes, it is. if you look at the cfos across wall street, none of them have a background like marty does. none of them have come up to the cio technology part of the company and that makes him unique. carol: talk to us about his background. he has been with goldman for some time. >> he has. and theirgoldman commodities business, as many of the leaders, surprise, surprise. he has always been -- eat came up through their strats business, which is their engineers. goldman was first on wall street at sitting the engineers next to the traders and having engineers design algorithms or models through spreadsheets. goldman was doing that years before much of wall street and
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that was largely led by marty. julia: you talk about the interactions he had with the chief accounting officer and the importance of data and analysis and the ease of which he wanted to read that. he didn't want to ask questions. talk about that. >> it is interesting. if you talk to cfo's across wall street, they will say, i don't know that answer or i just sat through three days of briefing to get ready for our 10-q and the head of latin america told me this. and are headed asia told me this. -- head of asia told me this. marty doesn't want to do that anymore. he wants an ipad that has a dashboard on it so he knows instantaneously, real-time, what the latin america business is doing or the fixed income trading business is doing. that means you are not wasting time. he would tell you, talking to heads of businesses or accounting officers and if you
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drill down, you can have more substantial conversations. carol: he is that primary voice inn it comes to investors the analyst community, and you have a company struggling in terms of their trading revenue and he is tasked with that message of increasing goldman's revenues by $5 billion by 2020. he has to make sure the message is clear and they are getting to that target. >> that's right. the first earnings call he did, he would tell you he is very tight, he did not disclose much, he kept on message. in the subsequent earnings calls he has done, he has come into his own a little more. julia: bitcoin might have made huge headlines this year. carol: by the digital currency has an arrival called ether. julia: here is our reporter. >> he quickly realized there was a lot you couldn't do with bitcoin. it is great for sending value around the world but he wanted to do more and he was interested
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in trying to create a block chain that could post computer -- could host computer code. instead of sending coins around like bitcoin, you can program computer language onto this block chain and have it do more complicated things. before he was 20 years old, he had created this amazing sort of new breakthrough in block chain technology called ethereum. in the years since, it has grown quite exponentially and they are now sort of getting ready to take it mainstream. carol: but it is not worth as much as bitcoin. we spent so much time talking about the value of bitcoin. why is it not valued as much? matt: we are early stages for ethereum and a lot of it is the -- is still theoretical.
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there are not a lot of ways we can touch the ethereum block chain. one example to help you understand it, i was able to buy a record on the block chain a couple weeks ago. i spent some ether, like my $10. money was processed by the code in the block chain and it sent , let's say four dollars to the lead singer and three dollars to the guitarist and they programmed this ahead of time. there is no music company in the middle or publisher in the middle. it cuts out the middleman and the backers feel it is a new version of the internet that will be more peer-to-peer. so you can see the potential of it, but a lot of it is still theoretical and still potential. but it has a lot of developers very engaged and committed to it. we felt it was a good addition and something people should be on the lookout for. julia: you pointed out this had a few teasing issues. there is also a problem with hackers. we saw hackers steal $55 million worth, $171 million lost when
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funds were frozen. just in terms of relative stability and ease of use, if we are simply talking about the currency, bitcoin versus ether, how do they actually compare? matt: when you see hacks and ether or bitcoin, there is a whole ecosystem being developed around these technologies. you've got wallets, exchanges, all these new -- they are like the new york stock exchange except digital. they are being created on the fly as we speak. this stuff is moving around the world and there is a huge valuation to it. it is a huge target for hackers. what you are seeing is they are being tested. the exchanges are being tested, security is being tested. a lot of hackers have been successful at breaching the walls and stealing a lot of the currency.
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in the digital world, but i don't think it is different than when banks were less secure and bank robbers were a thing. it is that we are watching this in real time and it seems like the wild west and it certainly is. julia: it certainly feels that way. [laughter] matt: yeah. at the same time, the underlying technology of the block chain itself is what is important and nobody has breached the block chain. if that was to happen, that would be huge and a very bad sign. you have the block chain in one area and all this other stuff not on the block chain and has to have good security and really good programming behind it. some of it doesn't and that's where the breaches are coming. if you can change the history of the block chain, that is what records where every bitcoin gets transferred from and that is what is important about it. if nobody has done that and if someone was able to do that, that would send shocks to the community and that has not
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happened, so far. carol: up next, the economist that says trade deficits harm marriage. julia: the first black and -- head gay head of the federal reserve bank. this is the bloomberg 50. ♪
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♪ julia: welcome back to bloomberg businessweek, i'm julia chatterley. carol: i'm carol massar. you can listen to us on the radio on sirius xm 100119 and in new york, boston, washington, d.c., and the bay area. julia: and in london on dab and asia on the numbered radio plus -- asia on the bloomberg radio plus app. carol: the economy plays a big role in the bloomberg 50. julia: businessweek's peter coy opens up the issue, discussing the theory of trickle-down economics.
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peter: essentially, the republican tax plan is a version of trickle-down economics. it is a phrase you don't hear a lot because, certainly on the republican side, because it is considered a term of disparagement, but funnily enough, i went to an event in new york and steve mnuchin was interviewed. carol: well-known business journalist. peter: on stage, it was not a "gotcha" kind of moment, but he was asked, do you still believe in trickle-down economics? you would think, i'm not going to cop to that, but he said, i do. it was pretty revealing. it to but he did not tie the republican tax plan for overhaul. peter: more than an inference. let me to you what we mean about trickle-down economics. it is not a crazy idea.
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in some ways. the idea is that growth comes from input and labor and capital. if you can increase the incentive for there to be more labor and more capital, by cutting taxes, then you can increase the growth rate of the economy and everyone benefits. carol: it trickles down. >> from the top, yes. julia: if we talk about the bloomberg 50, there are very potent and familiar names of are flag bearing this year. carol: not a household name. peter: he is if you live in a household with economists. [laughter] peter: david autor is a highly respected labor economist. carol: globally respected. peter: yeah, and he works on labor economics with technology and trade. he has taken a special interest
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in the impact of the growth of china on the u.s. labor market. this is a bit controversial because card-carrying economists believe in free trade and autor believes in free trade, but he is willing to say that is always -- that does not mean it is always beneficial to every person in the economy. his argument is that the influx of cheap goods from china undermine u.s. manufacturing sector, which to most of us is like, duh. we already knew that. but sometimes nailing it down with data, which he does with his regression analyses, is what it takes to persuade other economists of this. carol: let's talk about another person and the finance section, among the bloomberg 50, the new reservet of the federal
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of bank of atlanta. peter: he has been in southern california for many years and just appointed to run the atlanta fed. he is unique in two respects. he is the first black man or woman to be the president of the federal reserve bank. he is also openly gay, which is the first time for the fed.ear-old aside from those personal characteristics, just an interesting choice because he brings a lot of knowledge of the housing market, which we know from the last financial crisis is crucial to understand if you will run the global u.s. economy. julia: up next, the two men using machine learning to upend the hedge fund industry. carol: plus, the billionaire placing the big bad on integration of humans and computers. julia: this is the bloomberg 50. ♪
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julia: still to come on this issue, more from the 50 most influential people of 2017. carol: including the best-selling author, movie star, and youtube star with 2 billion fans. julia: and the website prospering from pro-trump propaganda. carol: all that still ahead. ♪
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julia: we are back with businessweek editor in chief megan murphy and megan, one of the big themes of 2017, macron macros, constant investing. talk to me about the two men in charge. megan: this is exactly like you said, the battle on wall street is not for traditional talent, it is for trying to keep kids from going from google to facebook and getting them into the hedge front. they are driven and trying to predict the trends of the market before it gets there. that is based on massive amounts of information coming in, predictive investing, predictive movement of money. it is not even a trend, this is where it is going. the robot can predict trends better than any human being can. carol: and they are doing really well. they have gotten a lot of money. megan: yes, they are doing well. they have brought in a lot of money and they are the leaders in this. the rival their peers in the industry, and they are reaping the benefits, which is being an
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early mover on wall street. carol: artificial intelligence. it has been around for decades, but it seems to be getting momentum. you included a man who was there early on. megan: that is a good what you point say about ai. i do think 2017 was the tipping point and you see it emerging across somebody different -- so many different industries and so many of our jobs are going to be disrupted by ai. reyfrey hinton -- geoff hinton has been in this for an incredibly long time, but particularly in the field of neural networks. teaching computers and teaching the systems to learn by exposing them to information, something like showing them 1000 pictures of a man to make the computer the ability to spot a man over a woman is out of fashion. he was early in the 1970's into it. it continues to be a field that , this year, has emerged as dominant. julia: the keyword was toronto.
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he is based in canada. they want to stop the brain drain to silicon valley. megan: toronto has emerged in the preeminent field in ai due to other factors. they are building the cities of the future. julia: there's no hype around ai. this is my favorite individual to hit this list. talk to us about the work she is doing. megan: she has a singular reduce the shortage of organ transplants we have in the u.s. and other countries. there are 100,000 people on the waiting list for organ transplants, and how to do that is to manufacture them and make them free of disease and need allow more ofhat them to be done more successfully. it is an unbelievable field. she is ahead of her time in
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doing this. it is intense genetic work in terms of using other animals to do it. it is truly something that will be game changing for the future of medicine and humanity. carol: another individual on the bloomberg 50, don't know if he is investing, but we talked to tom giles. >> softbank was this highly valued company like many other tech companies during the first .com boom. it is market value was one of the highest and then it lost 99% of its value in the years after the bubble burst. that is the kind of thing that would send a lot of people retreating to the sidelines. but this is a person who -- some of the things that he did, he recognized he wanted to be the exclusive partner for the iphone wasme
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getting into japan. he barely even had a business to put together, that he cut this -- but he cut this deal with steve jobs back before the iphone launched in japan. that proved to be a really smart investment. alibaba, again, what was just a few million dollars now, worth $90 billion. -- the ride-healing ride-hailing business in china, he made $5.5 billion at the time, the largest private investment. who knows some of the investments he makes could dwarf that? he grew up in this, outside of tokyo, far away from tokyo in japan, moved to the united states when he was a teen and attended the university of california, berkeley. took a lot of chances, did some nontraditional things. again, made these big bets, big
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risky bets, even after losing tens of billions of dollars in the .com boom. first some of which have paid off, and some which have not. julia: he is not afraid of making some feisty productions, whether artificial intelligence or robotics. he said recently that in 30 years, there will be 10 billion smart robots on the earth. that is the same as human population. tom: [laughter] exactly. he likes to talk about this thing called the singularity. depending on how you define it, it is this idea that technological advancements will be happening at such a rapid clip, that they are going to quickly alter human history and some people even define it as the idea that machines will be able to replicate completely what we do, our human capabilities. obviously having a major impact. that is where you get him.
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that is why he is investing in things like the internet, the idea machines will be interconnected. artificial intelligence, autonomous driving. that is just a handful of the kinds of things he really believes will change the way we live and work. julia: not afraid to talk about it. very different from some big tech guys. carol: i also found it interesting his all in in terms of saudi arabia. he plans to make $25 billion in investments there in energy and different things. renewable energy kind of helping that part of the world move into a different era. tom: we see a lot of change in saudi arabia. saudi arabia is going to be a big part of the vision fund. they helped him bring together this $93 billion, close to $100 billion fund. there is a lot of change as we know very well happening in that part of the world. some changes in the way we think about, the way the region treats women for example. women driving.
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and just the incredible impact that one thing is going to have on transportation in that country. and there is so many other things happening right now. obviously, political turmoil with the royal family. who knows what change will happen? if they are looking for alternative fuel, certainly saudi arabia has the potential to have a big impact on that as well. julia: up next, older americans are upping the ante when it comes to u.s. stocks. carol: the truth about the website with ties to the trump campaign. julia: this is the bloomberg 50. ♪
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♪ julia: welcome back to bloomberg businessweek. i'm julia chatterley. carol: i'm carol massar. you can find this online at
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bloombergbusinessweek.com. julia: the u.s. equity market has more than tripled in value since 2009. carol: most of the american stocks have one thing in common. >> we're looking at recent federal reserve data. americans 75 or older are more likely to own stocks. a lot more likely than before the financial crisis. every age group less than 75 is less likely to own stocks. carol: that is wild. ben: yes, it is likely to assume most young people are scared by the financial crisis, and that is too bad because since 2009, the stock market has tripled. who is making money off that? more old people. they have been staying in the market for this ride up. it is an interesting phenomenon. i have a couple theories why. julia: explain those theories. ben: one thing going on is that
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people -- americans 75 or older are a lot richer than people that are younger, so we have had a widening in age inequality. we keep talking about stagnant wages in the united states and people have a hard time saving. people in their 80's are people who lived through the economic boom of the 50's, 60's, 1970's, 1980's, 1990's. maybe they are more disciplined investors. they understand how the markets work and things can come back. they are not new at this. the other thing going on is that there are not many alternatives out there. carol: you can yield. ben: even if you have just a little bit of money, you don't even have to be that wealthy of a retiree. but if you have a little bit, you might want to put a little bit of that into the stock market. before to could just put the certificates into a deposit or a bond and generate some real income. now they don't. julia: i want to put some numbers on this.
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i think it is important to understand. what proportion of over 75's right now have investment in stocks? ben: it is approaching 50%. it is at 49%. 1989, it was only 25%. carol: that is a big difference. then, it was 34%. even before 2013, there has been a huge spike. ben: one thing going on is that you have of group of people aging into this demographic. people that were around for the 1980's and 1990's and got into stocks then and never left. you are aging out of the folks that are in pensions and collecting that pension check every month, and now you have folks who are investors. carol: in the politics section, the website has carved out a unique niche for itself. that is word
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misleading. julia: but the word truth might be misleading. ben: truthfeed is a website that popped up last year. i would call them a disinformation website. they are a mix between hyper partisan political news and falsely incorrect news. what it does do, it is always unwaveringly pro-trump. their agenda is to attack opponents of trump and support trump in his agenda. julia: describe the headline, giving us a bit of a flavor. talking about a burning american flag. ben: there are dozens of false articles on the site, but in september, amid the daca protest, trump announced he was ending protection for this group of immigrants, and so truth feed runs a story claiming there is a group of daca protesters burning the american flag and saying,
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is this the way to get into the good graces of the american people? but the picture was the basis of this story was taken 16 months earlier and had nothing to do with daca. the picture wasn't even a burning american flag in the photograph. that is a typical story that will show up. carol: to understand the website, we have to be introduced to another individual, katrina pearson. who is she? ben: just to boil it down here, what we have found, it appears katrina pearson, who was trumps 's national spokesperson during the campaign for about a year and then following the campaign, she joined with a group called america first policies, a nonprofit in a super pac closely aligned with the president and pushing the president's agenda. katrina pearson launched a
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personal website a couple months ago. turns out there are some technical connections with katrina pearson's personal website and truthfeed. this indicates there is some connection between this disinformation kingpin and one of the president's closest advisers. julia: the two share and ip -- an ip address. what does that mean? be shared without any connection between the two individuals? ben: that was the first clue that we spotted when katrina pearson relaunched an updated version of her website a couple months ago. it showed up on the same ip address as truthfeed. what it means is that they share the same server. this can occur sometimes come a -- sometimes. it can be a random coincidence. it would be a small chance of a coincidence, but it is not ironclad proof of the connection.
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a second piece of technical evidence really grabbed their attention. if you look at the source code of the web page for katrina pearson's sites, as well as truthfeed, it indicates they share the same account for an email service called mail chimp. it allows people to sign up for emails from the site. they're using the same account. i can't imagine a scenario where that is not indicative of some sort of connection. we did reach out to pearson to get an explanation, besides the general statement, she would not weigh in on this. and of course, truthfeed is not talking about it. it is an open question what the connection is. carol: up next, what happened when hollywood finally let a woman direct the superhero movie. julia: this is the bloomberg 50.
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carol: welcome back to bloomberg businessweek. i'm carol massar. julia: i'm julia chatterley and you can listen to us on channel 119 on sirius xm and on a.m. 103 in new york, boston, fm in and a.m. ind.c., 960 the bay area. carol: and in london and asia on the bloomberg radio plus app. the entertainment industry was well presented in the bloomberg 50. julia: we talked to reporters about three stars on the list. singing with youtuber lily . >> the easy answer is that lily is a superstar. she has over 2 billion lifetime clicks, 12.5 million subscribers. carol: how did we miss her?
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>> my editor said the same thing. i said i think your videos are funny, but a couple i don't get. she said we might not be the target audience. her videos, i said in the piece, it is witty and woke. they are friendly and very socially conscious. it is a mix of things, what happens in the women's washroom or how racism works? there are some funny things. carol: what my parents did to me. david: exactly. there is always a low-key lesson happening. julia: how old is she? she is not just a youtube star. she has a whole host of attributes. whether comedian actress. david: absolutely. that is why she ended up on this list. she is only 29 years old, but youtube is just the tip of the iceberg. she found out her self-help book, "how to be a boss," went to new york times bestseller
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while she was on an 11 country tour and something like 31 cities. she flew back and shot a movie for hbo. carol: she is playing on a lot of different platforms. she is writing books, doing cable, doing lots of different things. david: yes. she is a polymath and if you ask her, she would say she doesn't draw any distinction from small screen, big screen, or laptop screen. she said to me, a person today might say, and she said it humbly, but she said, a viewer might say i am their favorite celebrity, along with brad pitt -- i can't think of anybody else. [laughter] julia: when you have that reach, you can monetize it. product endorsements become really lucrative. david: that's true for lilly. she is a mainstay on forbes highest youtuber earners. i think she was up to number three last year. carol: $7.5 million. good, which pretty
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he has endorsements with coca-cola, smash box cosmetics, and she did something with skittles. which she was happy about because she loves them. it is all over the place with her and she sees many different ways for her to continue to expand. carol: you do other names in the entertainment area. patty jenkins was everywhere in 2017. david: yes, it was a big year for her. she directed "wonder woman." the first female record to helm a superhero movie. carol: blockbuster made so much money. david: it made few dollars. i heard they did ok. as of today, we are looking at over $820 million. carol: phenomenal numbers. david: she did ok. julia: she's working on the sequel? david: yes. she is in production on the sequel now and certainly happy
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about that. it is a story that they can go a long way. superhero movies are future now. julia: what does that say in the role of women? some of the comments solloway made with regards to her production company, she has called it toppled productions. -- topol productions. david: topol is a not-so-subtle way to toppling the patriarchy. that is jill's mission right now. julia: given the headlines in 2017, it is incredibly tough to say it what the bloomberg 50 will look like next year, but why not take a stab at it? careful: we talked about the next list. >> in addition to the list for 2017, we polled our editors on who they expect to see on the list next year. this was hard. this was the toughest part because you are trying to make an educated guess, but we had some fascinating summations. -- submissions. carol: let's talk about some of the submissions.
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this is the chief brand officer at uber. bret: has her work cut out for her. resurrectingber -- resurrecting uber not the easiest task in the world. she already ended wife appreciation day. she is trying to resurrect the brand's image. julia: if she manages to resurrect this, she will most definitely will be on the list. talk to us about the founder of supreme. bret: supreme is a revered streetwear label that does limited drops, is what they call them, and very intentionally make way less clothing then they can sell to keep it hot. carla group took a huge stake in them, which will allow them to probably expand mostly in asia starting next year.
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what we will see is a brand that will become more mainstream. carol: we have another individual. bret: she has directed music videos for every famous person you know. kelly rowland, beyonce, and she is now working with jill soloway. one of our 50 nominees, to develop the brief history of seven killings, the novel, for amazon studios, which of the -- which should be a major production. carol: one of the big stories that came out, was harvey weinstein and the allegations and charges levied against him in terms of actresses and sexual harassment. roman pharaoh is also on the next list. maybe people knew about him this year, but he became more of a household name. he is a journalist, and he broke the story when it came to harvey weinstein. story when it the
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came to harvey weinstein for the new yorker. very famous parents. very high public profile before all this began and now he is using it to speak out on this topic in addition to this journalism against people who are abusing their power. carol: bloomberg businessweek is available on newsstands now. julia: and online at businessweek.com. carol: i love the overall issue. i also like this story because here is a site on social media ed and we start to get an idea of who is behind it and it plays into the trump campaign. but we talk about this all the time. we need to understand who is behind it so we can separate news from propaganda. julia: just fraction of who is behind this. carol: favorite story? julia: ever heard of e-genesis before this week? carroll: me neither. julia: i love the story.
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there are plenty more fascinating people to hear about. more bloomberg television begins now. ♪
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♪ david: did you ever think you would be chairman of the joint chiefs? colin: it was beyond any possible level of aspiration. david: people said this man should be president of the united states. :: it had never occurred to me -- colin: it never occurred to me. david: any regrets about never having run? some say it is a great job. colin: prove it. [laughter] david: a new national security advisor wanted you as his deputy. colin: hello, general powell. this is ronald reagan. yes, sir. [laughter] >> would you fix your tie, please? david: well, people wouldn't recognize me if my tie was fixed, but ok. just leave it this way. alright. ♪

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