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♪ coming up --coming up on "bloomberg best," the stories that shaped the week in business around the world. debut on wallits street. it could make a big impact in washington. >> this is a thin publican majority in the senate. >> congress plows ahead on tax overhaul. to media giants create a blockbuster deal. >> we are creating a great global opportunity for consumers. gather forbanks their final meeting of 2017. drama is the outlook. speaking of next year, reporters considered the future of
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investing. the availability of stocks to choose from to go long or short. investors, ceos, and policy share their insights on the here and now. dealing with the technology shift is much easier than a business model shift. >> trade is good for both parties. we are beginning to see a return to stable markets. >> into don't -- it is all straight ahead on "bloomberg best." ♪ >> hello, and welcome. --this is bloomberg. --this is "bloomberg best," your
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weekly review of the most important business news analysis and interviews from bloomberg television around the world. the week began with a big step from bitcoin. >> bitcoin has landed on wall street, literally with a bang. as any 5%rge as much during the debut session on the cboe. futures surge as much as 25% during the debut session on the cboe. >> we are seeing pretty consistently three or four trades per minute coming in. this isn't bad for an opening day for a futures contract, especially for one which -- for one with uncertainty. >> we saw surge it's within the first few hours of trading. -- we saw a surge within the first few hours of trading. there were two of those circuit
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breakers that were triggered. trading was fairly orderly. voters are going to the polls to elect a state senator in the special election. roy moore campaigned yesterday with steve bannon and seeks to overcome scandals. in a state that hasn't elected a democrat to the senate 1992. >> doug jones, some would argue, does have some momentum. on the flipside, roy moore's campaign going all in. both campaigns are trying to highlight this has become less about the tooth candidate and more about -- about the two candidates. news in alabama has rocked therepublican world as
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state elected its first democratic senator in 25 years. when doug jones get to washington, he can now only afford to lose one vote. that puts pressure on republicans to get tax return -- the tax cuts done. the fomc way be expected to raise rates when it concludes its two-day meeting today. >> you will not be surprised the benchmark goes up. surprise and the feds growth forecast. probably due to tax cuts. >> a dot plot stays about the a consensus of three rate moves next year and two in 2019. >> changes in tax policy will likely provide lift to economic
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activity in coming years. the magnitude in timing of the macroeconomic effects of any tax package remain uncertain. >> it looks suspiciously like they do spot on to the idea there will be fiscal stimulus, especially from the pattern. what is interesting about this, even though they see a tense of 0he present -- they see 8/1 percent more gdp, there is a more reflation pack. >> one of the central banks news of the day comes from the boe. they kept their asset purchase program. everyone is on board withholding rates steady. they do see some modest tightening over the next few years. they see gradual buildup muppet how much can they see --
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buildup, but how much can they see with the brexit question? >> there is some hope that maybe because of the progress they made on the divorce bill the deal me -- the boe might be more hawkish. the base case, very slow and gradual hikes remain in place. we don't expect the next hike until the end of 2018. not much to get excited if you are selling. >> mario draghi stopping short that the european central bank with -- bank will meet its inflation goal. the ecb upgrading their growth forecast. not really doing much with the inflation forecast. make sense of that for me. >> it is interesting, because the growth upgrade in the euro area was substantial. i would expect a forecast of 2020 to be -- i could see 2019
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and 2020 to be a good 10 basis points higher. they didn't do that. they also attributed most of the rising inflation forecast to oil and food prices, which is like saying it has nothing to do with the growth upgrade in the eurozone, but more to transit. it is very counterintuitive. >> breaking this morning, a deal in the global media landscape. disney buying most of 21st century fox. >> we are creating not only a great company, but a great level opportunity for consumers to not only consume great contents made by both entities, but to consume --under successes better under circumstances that are innovative and friendly. >> disney has been such a formidable force in content,
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arguably some of the best properties in the world. acknowledgedlicly over the past few years that they really didn't have a good distribution strategy, but now you see them really going in on the offensive as they acquire , getting an sky distribution channel into europe, and india, which gives them a platform and an emerging market where there is growth. digital and international, that is what the deal is about. the u.s. federal medications commission stepped aside net neutrality rules earlier today. fromocks providers blocking traffic. the moves the future of net neutrality onto a likely court
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challenge. is the worst thing slipping under the radar in a long time. this environment of chaos we are living in were we tend to focus on crazy election is that we don't have time to focus in on what really might impact our lives, and that is, if net neutrality goes away, small companies not being able to compete or have access the bigger guys have. the idea that we don't have unfettered equal access to what has become the mother's milk of all innovation of all online shareholder creation, and that is data into our lives, into our homes. this could be probably one of the biggest errors and one of the slow-moving train wrecks have seen in a while. the final sprint on capitol hill for the republican tax plan. the final bill is expected to be unveiled today with details of what made the final cut or didn't.
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president trump is confident. >> i have seen it. i think we are going to be in a position to pass something as early as next week, which will be monumental. republican members have >> onlyly seen this -- republican members have apparently seen this. republicans do get this done and they fall in line behind mcconnell and president trump. is this obamacare all over again? are democrats going to pounce on this and this could actually help democrats? rating amongal american people part -- american people. obamacare was something that strangled the rest of the presence legislative agenda for the rest of his term. it is going to be interesting to see how republicans and not just
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the president or going to try and frame this bill going forward. still ahead, as we the microsofteek, ceo discusses the challenge on changing his company's culture and shifting his focus to the cloud. plus, conversations on oil with optimism. more of the week's top business headlines, including how a legal battle over memory chips has ended. >> final resolution seems to be a win for west end digital. scarlett: this is bloomberg. ♪ ♪
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scarlett: this is "bloomberg best." i am scarlet fu. let's continue our global tour of the week's top business stories. a sudden spike in oil prices. brent crude jumping above $65
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a barrel for the first time since 2015 after one of the most important pipelines was shut. discovered in a northne system in the sea. it is expected to take two weeks to repair. why is this so important? >> it transports a quarter of the uk's oil and gas production. it providesrtant is brent crude oil. that means more than two thirds of the global oil is being priced from 40. >> does that mean looking for alternatives to the north the supply? >> yes. that particular grade is being bid up. >> the costs have to be enormous. you have an estimate?
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is this a force majeure insurance situation? >> it is. we don't have a feel for the actual numbers, because it depends on the alternative arrangements. most have additional cost with them. it is a force majeure situation. >> in the u k, inflation unexpectedly fell, forcing mark carney to explain why price growth is so far above its target. he sits down and gets out of pen and says he has to write a letter to philip hammond. what does he say? >> this is what is required, but the issue is this is the guerrilla in the background. how do you quantify that risk? it is difficult. i don't envy who draft letters for mark carney at the bank of england. agreed to buy australia's
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amidield for $15.7 billion a consolidation of mall operators. the offer, which is from the biggest commercial landlord. >> westfield is a premier brand and platform that we believe fits seamlessly what we have been doing, focusing on innovation and differentiation. this transaction creates the inst global premier retail the best cities in the world. toshiba and western digital have confirmed the end of a lengthy legal dispute that has threatened to derail the sale of the memory chip business. the was a deal struck with consortium led by bank capital. have been western digital playing the long game.
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the final resolution seems to be a win for western digital, and i say that because basically western digital gets probably what they were aiming for. that is access to future chips being made by toshiba. specifically, they get access to the factories that toshiba is planning to build going forward. several executives have been suspended on allegations of .exual harassment the nfl network has suspended a hall of fame running back. suspended two men from appearing on its network during the investigation. inthis was originally filed october. it was one day after the harvey weinstein story broke. when i was speaking to the there wasn't said a greater understanding of sexual harassment.
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she filed an amendment naming names, naming these executives and household football player names. .hat has brought awareness startedpany has trading. openedtribution company up, stomping it home. on the abu dhabi. it is the fuel retailing business. what does it mean for the markets locally? >> it is difficult to overstate the importance of this event. this comes at a time when we are new statea bunch of owned energy champions in the gulf region to come to market, not least of which is saudi aramco.
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adnoc managed to beat them to the punch. initiald the shares for 2.5 each. that gives the company at a valuation of $8.5 billion. it is the first time international investors have been able to be involved in abu dhabi-based securities. a very big deal for the region as it attempts to open up and attract foreign capital to the market. european bank employees may be looking at and be at their u.s. counterparts. big european banks like barclays have cut bonuses. they meet -- they may be hounding at -- they may be handing out doughnuts, or zero payouts. it is going to be one of the worst years in terms of bonuses.
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they are expected to see a reduction of 10%. this is from the lack of liquidity and the slump in the trading revenues. especially for fixed income and currencies, we are seeing a slump of almost 20% for most of the major european banks. there are bright spots in europe. to has said they are going give bonuses this year. >> china has followed the feds borrowing costs. statement saying this is a normal rock -- normal market reaction to the u.s. tightening monetary conditions, but should we look at it as a move when it
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comes to deleveraging or a move when it comes to monetary tightening for the pboc? >> it is a move to try to keep its rates in the same ballpark, so its benchmark rates have been on hold, the traditional benchmarks. hold sinceeen on late 2015, but they have got to keep their overall borrowing costs in line with what is happening in the rest of the world. >> brexit talks now finally move on to trade. where are we in the brexit timetable talks? >> funnily we have approval from the -- finally we have approval from the e.u. 27 to move on to the future trade situation. i say that, but it is not going to happen immediately. oncehas to decide what it -- what it wants. leaves a short window to get those trade conversations done in time for the u.k. parliament to vote.
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that is going to be part of the process. we have heard from a number of afternoon'shis session here in brussels talking about the difficulties that we will face going into phase two. angela merkel talking about it. ahead, we ares going to hear some of the divisions that exist between the e.u. 27 about what -- about what they want to get from the brexit process. we could see fallout there. ♪
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♪ torlett: welcome back "bloomberg best." i am scarlet fu. this week in new york, megan murphy sat down for a special debrief interview with the
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microsoft ceo. he has been at the opening for a quarter century and reflected on the talent of changing the culture when he became chief executive officer. >> to me, i felt we needed a new metaphor for how to talk about this culture. with the tremendous success we -- and perhaps were more we needed to say -- the workpiration from on mindset. more in thebook context of my children's education. ofealized the concept confronting their own fixed boyset is not just did for and girls in school, it is good for ceos and companies. we have adopted this growth that at least we want to
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have inside of the company to talk about culture. very candidre also in talking about changing be some of thet about parts of the business where you felt it had fallen behind. you talk about the cloud. tell us how fundamental that process has been about pushing the company forward as the crowd continues to expand and becomes a part of our everyday lives. >> dealing with technology shifts is easier than business model shifts. the challenge we were confronted with is we had a very good, large successful business with high margins during data center software, except that the world was changing. the market itself was going to be a bigger market come up but it was probably going to come with a different margin profile. the business model was going to be fairly disruptive. we needed to confront that.
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completely framed what success looks like or progress looks like using a particular definition of what the category is, the margin profile is. it is up to the incumbent to be able to refrain, and that is what happened to us in the cloud. were perhaps late to get to it, but we were very fast once we got to it. driven them ifs you look at the last years, our cloud business has been the highest growth business in the company. that is nice to see. scarlett: we have more compelling conversations coming up on "bloomberg best." mexico's new finance minister discusses nasa. mark carney addresses i'm a change -- addresses climate change. plus, brookfield tells us where the company is finding value.
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♪ >> the big issue hanging over the economy for 2018 is nafta. what is the current thinking in the government about whether donald trump is going to withdraw? is thatentral scenario negotiations will continue. a's reassuring that there is method and dialogue going on in this regard. this week, there is a technical round going on. in january, there will be a ministerial round going on. the dialogue continues. good for both parties. fruitfulen a very
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relationship between mexico and the united states and canada. what i hope is that the minister of the economy will continue to lead these negotiations well. and these will arrive at a fraudable result three of the countries and for north america. scarlet: that was mexico's new finance minister speaking with michael mckee about the ongoing nafta negotiations. let's head down to europe. business leaders and policymakers met in paris at the one planet summit on the second anniversary of the paris climate accord. mark carney participated and spoke exclusively with tom keene on bloomberg surveillance. tom: what are the economic incentives of private enterprise , particularly a multi-national
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corporation to actually get the job done? what is the actual incentive to do good? mark: i would say two classes of incentives. the first are a series of policies that have been put in placewhat is the actual incentio do. in some countries, it is the carbon tax. in other places, it is regulation. which changes the opportunities for companies and the risk they have to manage. the second set of incentives are around how does a company manage risk and how does it manage opportunity for long-term value? the thing that is interesting today is climate is coming into the mainstream in those conversations. let me give you a couple of facts. of the 10 largest asset managers in the world signed up to support these recommendations. you have 20 of the globally systemic banks. the world leading sovereign funds, major insurancers
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and pension funds. in total, $50 trillion of asset ander management $80 trillion of balance sheet that are looking for this disclosure. we saw overnight with exxon mobil's announcement and you are seeing it across the board. the capital chain is looking for this information, including the two major shareholder proxy voting services which are responsible for 90% of that market. they are looking for this information and now they have a framework to get it. it tells the providers of capital who is thinking about risk, looking at opportunity and who is managing it well. scarlet: meanwhile this week, beijing hosted the international energy executive for a. global industry leaders and experts discussed the outlook for oil. tom mackenzie landed in
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exclusive interview on that very topic so that you started with the opec secretary-general. cutays the agreement to balance will balance the market. >> for all intents and purposes, we are beginning to see a return to a stable market in the f ullness of time. forthing that had eluded us seven years, due largely to the rted efforts in countries which has just been extended for the whole of 2018. bringing together for the first time in history countries to countries which has just beenshow efforts we first took in december of last year. tom: given the progress you are seeing, are the kuwaitis right
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to suggest there is a possibility that in june of 2018, this deal with, this production cuts could come to an end? >> i think this has been discussed at great length in the on november 30. thence, the decision to extend the supply adjustments for the whole of 2018. at the moment, we are in the process of putting the building blocks for a more permanent framework of this declaration of cooperation beyond the rebalancing of the oil markets. tom: that relationship between for example,ia,
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could be extended beyond for ex, could be extended beyond this agreement? >> we had already agreed as far back for example, could be extended beyond this agreement? >> we had already agreed as far back as december of 2016 when we were crafting the declaration that we wanted to see this platform that first brought together 24 producing countries to help the market reaches stability. to be developed into a permanent would ensure us tority to thett producers. sustainability. the supply adjustments, just one tier of the declaration of cooperation. the building blocks we are putting together now will fill further entrench this partnership beyond the rebalancing of the market. >> basically, you have an opec, non-opec agreement that has been reinforced for the whole of 2018. at the same time, we are continuing to see a strong
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global economy which has translated into high oil demands and that is affecting the price of oil. a disruption like a pipeline could affect it. there is geopolitical tension in the press. >> what does it mean for your outlook for pricing in 2018? highwe see things in the 50's, high 60's range to be the most reasonable outlook right now. think there is more uncertainty. a big question mark hangs over venezuela. its production is going down, the economy is in think there ie uncertainty. a big shambles, yet somehow it is holding it together. people think about the middle east, but you have to think about venezuela too. tom: in terms of opec, they have agreed to extend the production cuts to the and of 2018. are they succeeding in rebalancing the market? dan: i think so. the goal was to rebalance the
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market. i think it has taken longer to rebalance because the inventories were so high. that is what they are looking at for the number one indicator. i think what has happened is the coming together of opec and non-opec which was very tentative at the beginning. i think it is a kind of historic accord between those two parties, particularly at the heart of it is a relationship between saudi arabia and russia, and their determination to make this larger agreement work. tom: the kuwaitis have said recently this deal could be revisited in june and that and their determination to make this larger agreement work. the cuts could and before the end of 2018. is that likely? dan: there has been a lot of an exiton about strategy. i think the message they are's trying to say is we will wait and see. i think some of the parties an t are saying let's carry it out until the end of 2018. let's not have a lot of speculation of and down.
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others said we don't want this thing to get out of control. you need to increase the volumes. it is a reasonable outlook to say this 2018 agreement, but obviously, six months, things could change. not to the same degree of speculation. what they did not want is to have everybody -- what's going to happen to the agreement -- and march is the month they will have their next presidential election in russia. the outcome is not uncertain but i think the russians also want to see stability. scarlet: we head now to abu schatzkere erikthe outcome is t caught up with bruce flatt at the bloomberg invest conference. a contrary and move given the recent trend in brick-and-mortar retail. erik began by asking him what other plans are on the horizon. er schatzker
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caught upik: we know you have by contrarian about brazil. the early signs was that that was a smart bet. is there anywhere in that world where you can be contrarian with valuations of where they are with the prospect of rising interest rates? >> a year into a cycle, it gets tougher and tougher but we always find pockets of things to do. you would not have set 18 months solar and wind farms in america would be a valued investment. yet, sun edison got themselves in trouble and we solar bought o companies called terraform and bought a large wind/solar business. countries -- india offers value today just because they have poured a lot of money and the banks are going through reorganization of a lot of
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financing in the country. there are opportunities there. erik: you have taken opportunities to sell real estate, american real estate, for example. where'd else to you feel valuations are rewarding you to sell today as opposed to buy? bruce: we are always selling and we are always by. uying. in developed economies, in fully left properties, infrastructure or power where contracts are long and credit is good, people are paying high prices for those. erik? : where? bruce: we have been selling london office buildings. erik: even though people have been saying brexit will work out? bruce: we are developing today.ngs we are selling on park avenue in city.rkbruce: we have been
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we are selling power plants that are long-term left. we are selling transmission lines that have 30 year contracts on them. whatever feels like fixed income to us we are selling and anything that has operational development work to it, that is our business. ♪
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you are watching bloomberg best. i'm scarlet fu. this week, bloomberg news continued it series of the future of investing. what trends of money management will affect portfolios going forward? you are watching bloomberg best. reporters shared their research and analysis throughout the week. >> valued investing is a favorite strategy but the eight year rally in stocks and the ve causedn funds ha money to flood to passive funds.
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in today's installment of the future of investment, we take a look at how the banking of hybrid investing strategy. aroundnd that has been since 2015. part of the money tracks the s&p 500 index. what the remainder, what he is doing is going out and going long some stocks you like on a fundamentalreporters basis and g some that he does not like as much. the positions are netted. yet, the key is to reduce the amount of tracking error that the fund has with the index. as we have seen, a lot of passive strategies have done really well recently. is as greenblatt told me, a lot of investors really chase returns. they get out at the wrong times and will jump in after a fund has already run up. the idea here is to reduce the tracking error and hopefully have people stick with him.
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what we have seen with this fund is that last year, it outperformed 95% of its peers. so far this year, it is in the fund is that last top. scarlet: john burbank's capital will stop its flagship after funds slumped. it seems to be losing its luster. investors are fleeing. in yellow, equity hedge fund assets. in 2000, they accounted for nearly 60% of oil hedge fund assets. today, less than 30%. the amount of assets has grown so the net dollar amounts are probably not that much different. the industry as a whole has continued to attract assets as pension funds and other investors had turned to the strategy. >> what we are really seeing this year the number of the name hedge fund
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managers. name hedge fund managers. you mentioned john burbank. we have seen others really struggle for a variety of reasons. the long and short equity strategy is one that -- our colleague wrote a story today that essentially says long shorts but the hedge in hedge funds. that is one of the strategies that is really struggling. >> burbank saying he is rethinking how to manage money in this environment. what exactly is changing? >> one of the things that are changing is there is lower volatility, lower interest rates. you are seeing the rise of asset investments. what long-term equity managers used to>> look at what they coud short is going down. with the rise of passive investment, black rock and vanguard, some stocks are rising with their benchmarks. actually, the number of publicly traded stocks has also fallen. it is have to number it was in 1996. just the availability of stocks they have to choose from to go along or short has changed a lot. major investment firms have
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slowly been playing catch-up, incorporating new technology so they are also fearful big tech giants will threaten their way of doing business. major investment firms have slowly beenhow my google or amat black rock or fidelity's business? > >>how my google or amazon disrut black rock or fidelity's business? > >> a google or amazon could offer financial advice or brokerage services. they could get into the business in a variety of ways. they could also get into the banking business. you have already started to see this happen a little bit where alibaba inhow my google or amazg a money market fund. it has become the biggest money market fund in the world. so, there is no reason that amazon could do something similar where clients could store their value, their cash in a money market fund. fidelity and google definitely recognize that and fidelity is
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taking steps to protect against disruption by investing more than $2.5 billion in technology each year. and they took a stake, or bought e-money, which is a financial planning company in 2015. they have also been doing g a number of experiments amazon's alexa. working on some of the software where a customer can go in and ask where they are in their retirement plan or whether they would be able to meet their education goals. alexa would come back and say you are not on track but here are the steps you have to take to actually meet that goal. that is kind of a work in progress right now because they don't have voice authentication.
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thethe technology is not seem te there yet. >> the investor exodusthe techne there yet. >> the investor exodus to index investing is accelerating. low-cost passive funds may be managing more assets than their counterparts, according to calculations. is this all because of how much cheaper it is to invest in etf?ve and >> absolutely. you are seeing a very big shift. investors realized why do i need to pay lots of money for an asset manager that is actually not beating the market? looking at the markets this year, s&p is up 19%. that is not something that can be really achieved, especially if it costs a lot more money. if you are not beating that benchmark, why should i pay? >> i remember asking this question to bill ackman. he pointed out he started something completely different with the actively traded shares in london for example. other managers as well. >> i think what is happening is
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many active managers, especially at a mutual fund company like fidelity, are going to lower their expenses to try to really bring investors but it is so much more expensive to actually a buy a fund that is active out of fidelity than it is to buy an index fund. when you look at the ultimate performance, a fidelity fund, many of them have not been doing that great. index funds now are pretty big of a place to be because you are just marking the market and you i am makingy saying deal.ot a bad >> we continue to see a market rally but what happens when you see a downturn because though stock takers could come to the rescue. deal. >> it is possible. i think the issue is that people have been lulled into the sense of security in the markets. i'm making a lot of money, i am not doing a lot of work. that is a big risk.
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stockpicking is really about good ideas. ultimately, stock pickers will have to show they have great >> it is possible. ideas that can exceed the markets. as one money manager told me, can we have 50,000 great ideas a year. managers are really trying to come up with ideas which sucks. ♪
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>> find everything that is going >> i'm looking at vccy on the on.mberg, a great place to i'm seeing volume of about 3000 shares that have been trading, trading just under $18,000. on. bitcoin on the right is the futures chart. on the left is the cash trading chart. that shows you the difference. >> we have 30,000 functions on the bloomberg and we enjoyed showing you are favorites on bloomberg television in the hopes that maybe they will become your favorites. here's another function you might find useful. it takes you to our quick takes where you can find important topics. here's a quick take from this week. jong-th korean leader kim un loves the post about nuclear weapons. he also likes to test them, along with missiles that may or may not be capable of taking nuclear bombs to north america.
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those tests affect the international community and keeps pressure on china, north korea's closest ally. president donald trump has warned all options are on the table. president trump: it will be solved. >> here is the situation -- in the second half of 2017, north korea testfired two intercontinental ballistic missiles, saying all the u.s. is now in range. they fired missiles over japan twice. in september, the north conducted it strongest test to date. more than 10 times stronger than the bomb the country detonated almost a year earlier. the un security council approved tougher sanctions in august. trump followed up with further sanctions in september's. war of words intensified. while trump as agreed to work with beijing to find diplomatic solutions, he has repeatedly
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criticized china for failing to do enough. but the chinese are reluctant to push so hard to risk the collapse of north korea's government and the influx of millions of refugees. in the event of south korea absorbing its neighbor, a well armed u.s. ally on its border. in april, a missile defense system on the border. the chinese are not happy about that. both south and north korea have hundreds of thousands of troops deployed on either side of the border. north korea is a long history of escalating and the escalating tensions in order to broker economic concessions which leaves the u.s. and the world and in a tricky position. unfortunately with north korea, neither the carrot in the form of aide neither the stick and form of sanctions has network. awaiting the downfall of the kim dynasty or military confrontation. none are ideal but neither is the status quo especially given
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kim's your radically here. he has executed top advisers. as long as kim is in power, the country would never give up its nuclear power even if it was offered $1 trillion. scarlet: that was just one of the many quick takes you can find on the bloomberg. you can also find it at bloomberg.com as well as the latest business news and analysis 24 hours a day. that will be offered bloomberg best this week. thank you for watching. i'm scarlet fu. this is bloomberg. ♪
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>> you are watching bloomberg technology. lets get a check on your first word news. bloomberg news has learned republican senator marco rubio will support a compromise tax overhaul package. an aide and rubio got to yes at the congressional leaders agreed to expand the child tax credit. another former holdout gop senator, bob corker, says he is also on board. maine senator susan collins says she is still waiting to read the bill. calling himself a true friend and loyal champion to police, president trump today addressed law-enforcement graduates at the fbi national academy in quantico. the president says he plans to rebuild the re.

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