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view. you mentioned it. president trump mentioned it. we are now a net oil exporter. it is not as cut and dry as it used to be. time, when you look at the benchmark, energy makes up less than 5% of the s&p. even the best day of energy for the year, it will not bring up the benchmark all that caroline: pretty muted reaction caroline: live from new york, i across the benchmark. am caroline hyde. airlines, also some of the romaine: i'm romaine bostick. joe: i am joe weisenthal. companies similarly had. caroline: a slightly muted generally, russell response to the crisis but outperforming, very energy link. some of the banks exposed are energy was in outperform her. saudi fallout -- was an also doing well. of two dozen, outperformer. saudi fallout continues. energy clearly the best ipopolitical, monetary, and performers. the next best is real estate investment trusts. fallout. will the fed have another reason gmomakers down about 2.5% as to cut interest rates this week? rethinking the role.
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faces its first right with the packers deciding how much to uaw in years. admit the next investment caroline: abigail, what are you vehicle after a bet on we work sours. watching? abigail: crude oil, today, that romaine: today's top story. saudi aramco growing a little the best- that surge, bit less optimistic that there will be a rapid recovery since day in about a decade. there have technical difficulty the weekend's attacks. says itretary-general so i will pass to you, renita. renita: is huge jump in crude is too early to consider a oil today. possible production increase. oil, corn,ing crude he spoke exclusively earlier today with bloomberg. a collective, as well as sugar. raw sugar futures climbed more than 1%. decision of not only opec but corn since 95%g .he opec plus of it is ethanol produced by corn. index is a's energy a template on what would be done and when. more than 3% on the day. romaine: joining us now for more thesefluencing analysis is cornerstone macro agricultural commodities depends
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on how long the -- will last. will analyst. we know that the saudi's and 2%lor: mgm international their clients have commercial reserves. ports that blackstone a -- on how much of a cushioned we have? >> it depends on what is out and for how long. reports that blackstone may be outs say $5 million stays looking to purchase two properties. back in january that vegas based for about 20 days, there go the commercial reserves. form an independent goe, china, europe, you can committee to look at ways to extract value from real estate. 15 months and you have nothing left. if you want to look at a chart that i am showing on the critical is to know how much is out, how long it will be out for terminal, it is interesting because mgm resorts international does get about 77% . joe: besides the buffers and of the revenue from the u.s. strategic reserves, how fast can macau gaining revenue that has production, especially of prices stay elevated? been taking off much more so jan: than vegas gaming revenue. enough, macau casino, they do get about 15% of
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their total revenue from that. maybe a good strategy to be focusing in on that as macau makes up the biggest portion of their overall revenue. us, bloomberg's sarah ponczek and brian levitt, fair -- what is spare. american shale. -- are we going to grow that? big question that you should be able, over nine to 18 months, to the big winner in the stock, ramp up whatever growth you had plans for, purchase another million barrels a day or so energy. in that 1.5, two year it had been a big winner for reasons prior to the events of timeframe. this weekend simply because of caroline: is this a positive for this rotation. now it has this additional the united states in particular? jan: is positive from united geopolitical catalyst. going back to that rotation, it states industry, geopolitical, would have been the big topic on and not so much if you use oil. everyone's mind. workmost americans don't do you think that move from growth toward value is something in the oil industry but -- that is sustainable? electioneering aian: no, i think it is cyclical move. perspective, this is not a good here is what ended up happening. idea, especially if you are not
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the economy was dealing with what i cali policy mistake forced to retaliate. multiple rate hikes last year. if you look at what -- what i call a policy mistake, multiple rate hikes last year. prices do today, you are seeing the administration sounding a .8 on brent crude little bit less tough on trade and the yield curve starts to normalize some. are we looking at that level that turn.rforms and network is there more? -- that level now or is there growthgoing to recover, more? 9 in aou're up 8, almost will be better than people think. in order for this value rotation to be sustainable, you need to single day. you went limit up at the open. be either going into a recession or going to a new, higher that strange thing, the american sustained level of growth. etf is up. caroline: sarah, within the there is a significant market reaction, and this is day one, rotation in stocks, a tumultuous before we really know what is move in bonds last week. going on. caroline: how painful was this that has all reversed on the search for a haven. for the positioning in the market, because it was
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will the trend continue? inherently bearish? jan: there was some significant thought it would wrong footing that whomever did be yields lower rather than this did. higher. andpositioning was bearish week, bonds were that proved to be the wrong position going into the weekend. overbought. this week, oversold. joe: let's say they can get the there is no question about the fact that wednesday, the fed production or facility fixed in will be very key for what is some reasonable amount of time. are we going to be looking at a going on with the bond market. permanent premium in the price. jan: that is a very good people are having a tough time question. grappling with where the economy the shortest answer would be actually stands. yes, how. how foreign demand are driving if you are a big importer, you probably one more inventory on the rate market, and where we go hand. from here. we are completely trampled. a whole piece of capacity just went down, big time down. now, people are talking about going back up to two again. your capacity in the future is brian, how do you fold therefore most likely going to you bargained for. in the fomc and how it addresses
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the oil shock? romaine: what about the risk of we know that when it comes to some sort of military conflict inflation, it sees past things involving iran? like the oil prices. how does that affect prices if setting policy based on we are going down that road? jan: we are down the road. oil prices going higher would be a double whammy to the u.s. negotiation.ike i would expect the fed to continue, another straight cut. the 10 year rate will be a something else fell out of the sky, magically, a drone that reflection of where we think they were not supposed to be real gdp will be. able to hit. there were four holes blown in a year ago, people thinking we tankers on the way. this is already a spiral of are at this new magical level of growth, that wasn't sustainable. conflict. face --will hit qinetiq in the summer at 150, it wasn't as bad as everybody thought. phase, whattic rates should be close to 2%. move over the weekend would washington calls it, when should that when people are shooting -- it will get to a bottom each other, i don't know, but you could have other things with
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saudi protecting its borders. and start to move and that romaine: thank you for your should cause rates to move higher. insight today. caroline: when you have such a substantial move in oil, i expected the u.s. dollar to move in the opposite direction. the u.s. dollar was resilient and a lot of people geeking out your insight today. some breaking news. the seaworld ceo has resigned. about the repo market and the company putting out a statement saying that in the interim, elizabeth castro, who is currently the chief accounting officer, will serve technical things. brian: the u.s. dollar, the best as ceo of the company. the company is embarking on a way i know to think about it, search for a more permanent what is the u.s. growth rate successor. joe: coming up, a lesson on compared to the rest of the world? going public and its impact on as long as u.s. growth rates softbank and why backers of the compared to expectation look vision fund may be having second better than the rest of the world, the dollar continues to thoughts. this is bloomberg. get a bid. we think of energy price ♪ disruption but what ends up happening is a little bit more of a flight to quality. stubbornlyhas been high. when we run some pretty big deficits, you would expect the
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dollar to stabilize. we would need to see the rest of the world's growth pick up some. china is doing that, the ecb to some extent. sarah, do you think that decision, ited feels like maybe it is not quite thought aal as people few weeks ago. the general tenor, maybe they are a little less under the gun here. sarah: when you look at the numbers for october, they are now pricing in at 24. that is the first time we are seeing that in a while. if you have the fed not cut rates, you are going to see much
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disappointment in the market. it may not be about this wednesday because people are so much expecting the fed to cut rates, but how many times going forward? it is expected that they will continue to use that language but you were to see a change, that would be an issue. scarlet: how the fed puts together the response would say a lot about appetite for risk. i am thinking of saudi aramco. those issuesabout -- brian: we definitely need clarity. i expect we will continue to see the path they are on a week ago, joe: the biggest backers of we were talking about trade.
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for business investment, that is softbank's vision fund are what you need to see. having second thoughts. bloomberg has learned that the protectionism isn't a good wealth fund at abu dhabi have but they just need to been thinking about how much they want to commit in the wake know the rules of the game. of the we work fiasco. that is what businesses are looking for to bring forward investment. you can't blame them. i think that investors should it is not just we work. probably try -- this has been a it is all their business models. year of policy uncertainty. doordash,lking thing, what happened over the weekend -- i think we are in a secular none of it too great right now. bull market. stocks are still cheaper than >> i guess we are seeing a bonds. growth is ok. to me, it doesn't feel like the couple of them go public and now everyone is looking at wework end of the cycle. and kind of using that as a thank yourian levitt, market test at looking into softbank's underlying portfolio. so much. of course, our own sarah to be fair, their numbers have ponczek, who covers cross assets and softbank, the for us. coming up next, romaine bostick steps in for "what'd you miss?" vision fund, didn't go all in.
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this is bloomberg. ♪ retribution'some about going into wework. what does it really mean in , how bigsaudi arabia of a chunk changes that? obviously, he said that he intended to invest $45 billion in division fund 2, which is the amount he pledged division fund 1. everything is fluctuating at the moment. paper games, at the end of the that couldows what be. one thatgroup is the invested because they pressure the vision fund not to do that
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larger investment. romaine: i am a little confused about the criticism. they pitched themselves as basically a venture fund. if 20% of that comes out profitable, you don't need to worry about the 80%. why is there so much focus solely on wework when they have had other hits? >> i guess it is a dramatic mess. compare that with the valuation on friday, that is less than a third of that number they invested at. maybe investors are not so comfortable and how softbank is going about throwing their money around. maybe they hoped they don't do the same thing in fund 2. joe: maybe some of the criticism is a little bit unfair. big picture, there have been a number of big messes at the gigantic uniform level where
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thee huge, -- big misses at gigantic unicorn level. does that raise the question, does a second vision fund makes sense given the business models of these companies? >> that is something being discussed in silicon valley and beyond. the vision company is not only investing in the u.s. it is investing in asia, europe, south america. feeling: i have had the through some of your amazing reporting that they kind of knew this was coming in terms of the lack of appetite for some of their key backers, because they are offering some of their own employees. he said he would commit more than the previous time. gillian: we should point out that fund 2 have different
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investors that i don't think were in fund 1. apple, foxconn, a suite of japanese institutions. it is a different lineup will be interesting to see some of the key backers from fund 1 come into fund 2 in a big way. caroline: i think we should all be asking microsoft and apple. bloomberg's gillian tan, thank you. a quick check on the latest business flash headlines. goldman sachs leading the way when it comes to shrieking paychecks on wall street. since 2007, employees lost $.71 adjusted for nominal wage growth. traders have seen the wages fall industrywide as they added more low-wage staff. this is bloomberg. ♪
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>> president trump says it looks like iran was behind this weekend's attacks on saudi arabian oil facilities. iran has denied responsibility. speaking at the white house where he was meeting with bahrain's crown prince, president trump said he did to have -- he did not want to have more with anybody but the u.s. military was prepared. heleit unacceptable when he addressed a conference at the international atomic energy agency in vienna. >> make no mistake about it. this was a deliberate attack on the global economy. and the global energy market. authorizedrump has
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the release of oil from the strategic petroleum reserve. if that is needed in my department stands ready to respond. mark: an iranian government spokesman says there was no chance for a meeting between president romney and trump -- president rouhani and trump at the u.n. meeting next week. asking boris johnson to make written proposals if he wants to offer his company a way out of the impasse. need written"we proposals. i hear a lot but i do not read a lot." said minister johnson also that he remains optimistic. mr. johnson: yes, everyone can
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see roughly what could be done, but it would require movement and it will require the system by which the eu can control the u.k. after we leave, the so-called backstop, to go from that treaty. that needs to happen. mark: prime minister johnson's on camera statement was made outside of the embassy and luxembourg after a news conference was canceled because of noisy anti-brexit protesters. a united nations fact-finding mission once myanmar to be held responsible for genocide against its muslim role injure -- its muslim rohingya minority. the group says myanmar security forces killed thousands and fleed more than 740,000 to
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to bangladesh. global news 24 hours a day on air and at tictoc on twitter, powered by more than 2700 journalists and analysts in over 120 countries. i'm mark crumpton. this is bloomberg. ♪ caroline: the united auto workers union is leaving its first strike against general motors in 12 years with nearly today.workers -- workers walking out today. the union knows that the proposal fall short in key areas including health care, temporary workers, and the length of time it takes for workers to get to top scale pay. is a labor relations professor at uc berkeley. you say the ways and means that gm is going about this, to publicize some of the battle, is quite unheard-of. >> very much unprecedented. general motors sent a direct message in effect on their last
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offer to uaw members and the general public. that really is unprecedented and doesn't sit well with the uaw. what is most important right now is there appears to be some movement at the bargaining table. see some signs that perhaps there is a middle ground that the both may be able to accept? >> for sure, there is a middle ground that they both will accept. the question is how long that will take. the $100 million in lost earnings that gm could be experiencing is enough to very much focus the mind on the bargaining table. of the uaw, it is lost wages its workers on the pickup line. there are two positive signs. they began bargaining at 10:00 a.m. this morning.
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they didn't want to wait, they are bargaining. uawsecond good news, the general motors vice president sent a note to his counterpart this saying, why didn't offer come earlier, it could have been the basis for a settlement. that indicates a shorter rather than longer strike. the bad news is that word has come out that they still remain far apart on the details. details ise of those this idea of providing the workers a little bit job security, workers up to eight a $30 wage ap to little bit faster than what is in place. does gm really have the financial capacity thinking long-term.
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gm clearly has challenges ahead. that said, in earned close to $12 billion in its most profitable region in the world for it said it wants to hold a hard-line on the labor costs. itis losing -- in earnings, lose as much as 10% of third quarter profits by friday. there may be a meeting of the mind of job security, health care, and wages more rapidly. caroline: what implications does this have for other carmakers? harley: it has a lot of implications. the detroit automakers, this is a pattern that will come to them.
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pattern bargaining doesn't mean that they will accept the same thing but it does mean the general principles of the g.m. agreement will be applied. the other international automakers in the u.s. are watching this closely. they are nonunion to stay that way, they have to match to some degree what the union gets. the to what degree does corruption investigation into leadership affect the leadership strategy and does not put pressure on them to take stronger actions? twoey: i think these are very different issues. the bargaining is all-consuming. the stakes are very high uaw workers going forward. the investigations fly very much in the face of what has stood for for so long.
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there is not a direct link to bargaining. becauseougher right now there are these allegations towards some leaders. it could influence the ratification vote but probably not that much. right now, gm workers feel the union has gone to the ultimate weapon and their choice of an is whether they want to stay out more days and lose more pay. romaine: thank you, professor. this week, bloomberg news is participating and covering climate now, an initiative led by the columbia journalism school on climate change. in april, renewable energy supplied more power to the u.s. grid than coal. it is a sign that solar and wind and go head-to-head with fossil fuels. joining to discuss, will wade,
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bloomberg news power and energy reporter. is this because we have all got religion and we somehow care about the environment? green tois about going save money. and two thirds of the world, if you are building a new power plant today, wind and solar is your cheapest option. joe: how much of that is because of regulations and subsidies? will: it used to be. increasingly, we are seeing them go away. ,aroline: how does it stack up say, nuclear? japan.ushima disaster in it interest me that nuclear in the u.s. was likely to disappear as well. upbringing -- operating a nuclear power plant is really expensive. you have a lot of people working
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at the plant. 24 hour security. the waste to deal with afterwards. romaine: i hear a lot of talk about when, solar. for this to overtake fossil fuels, there has to be a lot going on behind the scenes. i am still feeling up the car with oil-based fuel and turning on my lights with what i presume is probably from a gas plant. will: it is probably from gas. that is about 40% of the power grid. coal will be below 25% this year for the first time. wind and solar are growing. it has quadrupled worldwide in the past nine or 10 years. and it is coverage, being rolled out all week. wade. to bloomberg's will
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bloomberg news, part of the climate now coalition, highlighted climate change. coming up, saudi aramco facing weeks or months after a drone strike on crude production. more on what that means, next. this is bloomberg. ♪
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joe: oil searching -- oil surging the most in a decade after an attack on saudi arabia creates concerns about instability. president trump promising to help allies. still, he says the u.s. is no longer directly reliant on
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middle eastern oil and gas. joining us from washington is ihs market vice-chairman daniel jergen. for joining usch today. iran,h pointing towards nothing is confirmed yet, but that is obviously where a lot of the focus is. a strategic rationale to back such an attack? isiel: in washington, there a lot of conviction that the attack came from iran. i think saudi arabia said they two.take another day or they put the brand of the houthis on it, but either directly or indirectly, clearly
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iran was involved. the technology was sophisticated quitee execution was considerable. why would they do this? one could be a faction in iran wanting to undermine a meeting between president trump and rouhani. another could be revenge. you raise a good question, what do they gain by creating one of the six worst oil crises of the past 50 years? romaine: how do you resolve this? going to war with iran, whether the u.s. goes it alone or cobbles together he coalition, there is a vulnerability that is exposed. daniel: first of all, there is a risk history that is there. short-term and medium-term, there are defenses against
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drones but you have to implement them and have them in place. as thisay, as difficult situation is or isn't, the question is, what next happens? something next will happen. have any do you inclination of what they will be? is it daily saudi arabia -- is it mainly saudi arabia that will be the target? is ira if they do say it n, will feel they have to do something. obviously, they will have to beef up their defenses against drones. you can beef up against them but you have to invest. caroline: we will have to leave it there for a moment and listen into president trump.
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pres. trump: if you look at what is happening with regards to the stock work at, it is holding pretty firm in regards to what is happening with saudi arabia, but i think we are doing pretty well. any questions? do -- reporter: [inaudible] pres. trump: mediation is possible if that is what they want. hopefully they will be able to clean up the gm strike quickly. we don't want them building cars outside of this country. uaw has been very good to me. the members have been good in terms of voting. hopefully they will work that out quickly and solidly. i just gave a pretty big news conference inside. we will be late for new mexico. reporter: mike pompeo is pretty certain that iran is behind the
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attack and you are not. pres. trump: i think we are the same. we want to look at the final numbers. overll know for certain the next pretty short period of time. reporter: [inaudible] pres. trump: that we are going to decide. reporter: [inaudible] pres. trump: louder. the drone wasr shot down, you said it wouldn't be proportionate to do a lethal strike. pres. trump: would this be proportionate? i would say yes. i don't know who is going to new mexico with me but i will see you on the plane. pres. trump: [inaudible] -- reporter: [inaudible]
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can you trust saudi arabia? pres. trump: i think so. we will know very quickly. we have pretty much all the material we need. reporter: do you think the new york times -- [inaudible] brett cavanaugh -- pres. trump: i think the new york times made another terrible mistake. romaine: you are listening to u.s. president donald trump on his way to andrews air force base, commenting on the situation in saudi arabia, saying, "we know who did this and in time the u.s. will have a response." he was saying the stock market held up pretty well in spite of what is going on. we just heard the president kind of comment on some of the market implications. you look atg if
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where prices ended up, do you think enough of a premium has been priced in for potentially what is next in this saga? considered, iings don't think it was a severe reaction in the market. five or six years ago, you would have seen it shoot up more. the administration wisely mentioned the strategic petroleum reserve early, which is a message to traders and so forth. we thought we might see a reaction short-term. we might end up seeing less of .hat what you point to is important. what we see over the next few days. is it iran?
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the other, how long does it take to bring the supplies back in? the market is fine for 60, 90 days. beyond that, it would be a problem. joe: what does it say about the structure of the oil market or the oil infrastructure in particular that one location is this crucial and one strike on one facility can cause such an outage. does that sort of generally speak to vulnerabilities of the market overall. particularhink this facility is the most important hardware in the global industry. if you realize the amount of supplies is equal to one third of what passes through the strait of hormuz every day. the strait of hormuz, we knew that if there were some disruption, the u.s. navy would
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solve that problem. i think this is such a central note. there is nothing else like this really in the world oil industry. caroline: we thank you. from new york, this is bloomberg. ♪
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romaine: now to asia ahead. tough batch of data for china. retail sales missing estimates. let's bring it shery ahn for a little bit more. if it weren't for the saudi arabia attack, i think all the talk today would be these numbers out of china. industrial production numbers, about half of what we were earlier this year. shery: 4.4% in august, the lowest growth rate since 2002. retail sales also missing estimates to fight -- estimates despite the fact that we had a lot of hope hanging on the
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chinese consumer. a slowdown. fixed asset investments as well. interesting because infrastructure spending was still strong. of course, we have beijing trying to support growth. but, it was the private investment part that was really not doing great. joe: will chinese leadership have to relent on the 6% growth goal? shery: it is becoming precarious. they want to keep that 6% growth. on the second quarter, only 6.2% year on year. as soon as we saw that data out of china, citigroup saying, we are not expecting that rebound in the fourth quarter anymore. the growth forecast, 6.3%. next year, growth of only 5.8%. you mentioned the oil search at the moment. china is the biggest consumer of
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saudi arabian oil, so all of this adding to the challenges. caroline: more stimulus to come, do you think? shery: already the triple-r cuts. now, expectations are for more and even the medium-term lending facility being cut as well. romaine: he still have the protests in hong kong and the anniversary and beijing. shery: 15 weekends of protests and getting more aggressive from both sides. as we head to the october 1 70th anniversary of the founding of the people's republic of china, people worry that it will even get worse. caroline: i know you will be covering this data and much more throughout your shows. don't miss her on "daybreak: australia" and "daybreak: asia." romaine: "bloomberg technology" is next. joe: this is bloomberg.
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taylor: i'm taylor riggs in san francisco. this is "bloomberg technology." coming up, drone attacks. oilattack on saudi arabian plants put drone technology back in the spotlight. plus, ipo roadshow while apple faces its biggest tax case in
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