warnings as texas instruments in a weakening global economy. norfolk southern on deck. brexit now in the hands of the eu as it decides how long an extension to give the u.k., while boris johnson debates and election. softbank takes control. a $9.5 billion rescue package, gets adam neumann platinum parachute. welcome to "bloomberg daybreak" on this wednesday, october 23. the latest from blackstone. asset under management increases billion.ear to $550 net inflows did declined by about 15% year on year. it is going to be the industrials and the semis leading the market today. s&p futures are going to be a little bit softer, down by about six points. texas instruments warning last

night, caterpillar warning this morning. money moving into the bond market. yields lower by about two basis points. time now for global exchange. and london to you new york washington, our bloomberg voices are on the ground with this morning's top stories. u.k. prime minister boris johnson will face parliament after lawmakers blocked his plan to rush the deal into law. we now face further uncertainty, and the e.u. must now make up their minds over how to answer parliament's request for a delay. alix: european council president donald tusk earlier signaled that the eu was likely to do. "in order to avoid a theeal brexit, i recommend

eu 27 except the u.k. request for an extension. for this i will propose a written procedure." anna edwards is in westminster. anna: the prime minister is concerned. there are two paths that could lie ahead. one of them is to change the type of the existing agreement billed to give it another chance in parliament, to see if it can get support after it's got more time for discussion. johnsonht, we saw boris facing one of the votes because mps were asking for more time to scrutinize the legislation. he has talked to the labour leadership to come up with a timetable. no progress has been made in that conversation, but they have been talking.

the other path is the possibility of general election. if no new timetable can be found that would come and support and the house, perhaps department us to will call for a real election. he certainly threatened that yesterday. there might be various reasons why he might want to do it. he has quite a serious lead in the opinion polls at the moment. it might suit him to go with a deal in hand. to limit won't let him enact the people and say give me your blessing -- parliament won't let him enact to the people and say give me a blessing. will we see a new timetable or a election? if we want to see either of those, we need a delay from the european union. you heard boris johnson talking about what the eu is going to decide. we heard from leo varadkar this morning that he is going to support a delay to the brexit process, and many people here in westminster assume, perhaps dangerously, that the eu will say ok to that delay. alix: investors here thinking the same thing. thank you so much.

we want to turn now to some earnings. we heard from caterpillar and blackstone this morning. joining me for highlights is, chandra -- is emma chandra. emma: i wanted to highlight first caterpillar. the company really sending out some distress signals as the stock is reacting in the butarket, falling about 4%, falling close to 8% and we first saw those earnings. they missed estimates, and the company lowered its forecast for 2020. caterpillar blaming demand, as we had seen them do in previous quarters. they do see dealers making inventory reductions as they are concerned about global economic uncertainty. we know that has been fueled in part by the trade war and trade tensions, and that is something we heard about from texas instruments. of course, the bellwether when

it comes to the chip sector, texas instruments falling 9% in the premarket today. it is really stoking a bit of negative sentiment for chips around the world, certainly here in europe. we have seen that sector perform worse on the stoxx 600. the ceo in the company there saying that trade tensions i can customers far more cautious. alix: great recap. we turn to new york, where softbank unveiled a $9.5 billion rescue package for wework. softbank will now own 80% stake in the company. bloomberg's sonali basak joins us with more. it's official. walk us through what we know. sonali: it is official. softbank owns 80% of the company now. something important to note, we work will be an associate ash wework will be an associate of -- wework will be an associate of softbank, not a subsidiary.

with that said, it is still a lot of money. we will see how investors react to this deal. alix: so far, the outcry against adam neumann has been quite severe, particularly within the company. sonali: adam neumann is walking away with more than $1 billion, as well as a $200 million consulting fee, while employees are being laid off. the disparity here is something making people uncomfortable. alix: to say the least. thank you very much. now we head to washington, where facebook ceo mark zuckerberg is set to testify before the house financial services committee later this morning. the hearing is expected to largely focus on the company's propose cryptocurrency libra. joining us with more is kevin cirilli. kevin: mark zuckerberg prepares to go on offense. his testimony was released late last evening. he is set to say that facebook does not have the ability to move forward with its libra and digital currency and while it, that it will cede ground to

china. he has said, "while we debate these issues, the rest of the world is in waiting. china is moving quickly to launch similar ideas in the coming months." meanwhile, progressives on the committee, including freshman alexandria because he accord as -cortez, area ocasio .reparing to go on the attack facebook hopes it will continue to work with regulators on future regulations. alix: thank you so much. stay with bloomberg television later today. we are going to have live coverage of mark zuckerberg's testimony at 10 a click a.m. eastern time -- at 10:00 a.m. eastern time. we have general dynamics coming in quite strong. revenue beating on a year on year basis, up 7%. earnings beating as well. there backlog came in a little

light. it was down by about 3% year on year. free cash flow really solid. they say this should come as no defense andat the airspace portfolios continue to remain strong. the question is, will anything else wind up being strong? coming up on this program, more of your morning trade and analysis on the markets in today's first take. happy wednesday, guys. this is bloomberg. ♪

alix: time never bloomberg first take. -- time now for bloomberg first take. joining me his former trader and voice of the bloomberg audio squawk vincent cignarella. how do you look at the earnings we get from texas instruments, from caterpillar, when they all worn about the broader ash all

-- all warn about the broader environment? vincent: i thing it is a bad sign for the broader industrial economy. if you put the two on the chart, it makes perfect sense. caterpillar,ss in not only would you expect the dollar to trade lower, but this is a big trade situation. the trade outlook is finally starting to bite into the industrial sector in a way that now we will see if it translates to the consumer sector. alix: what i thought was also interesting about texas instruments, they are the closest to the engine of demand. they are going to feel at first. companies later down the supply chain are not going to file yet, but at some point it does get to the consumer. we've known caterpillar was weak for a while. vincent: and i think texas instruments is the consumer, and you are seeing it as well. it takes lead time for manufacturers to order the chips

from the chip manufacturers, to put in whatever products. we have chips in everything. there's just about nothing that isn't being run by a computer right now. so you have something like texas instruments morning, basically telling you there is no demand for the next six months. this could way into the -- this could weigh into the first quarter of 2020. fxx: so if you are an trader, what do you do? it is a weaker or stronger dollar story? vincent: probably a stronger dollar because we see people looking for havens. u.s. treasuries will probably be back on the bid side. from 1.6% in the 10 year to 1.8%. now i think we should pull back a little bit. 10-year gilts will drift a little bit lower, and we see a bit more of a slower growth cycle going into 2020. we may pull some of that growth

into the fourth quarter of 2019. alix: the other narrative is that the dollar steepened. that we might see a rotation and other assets. vincent: if we see the trade situation level off. we are not seeing that just yet. people have been talking about peaking the dollar. i don't know why they are still working. [laughter] vincent: but they somehow managed to carry that day. it's really hard to pick tops and bottoms in the market. while you still could see a top and the dollar going forward, you need all of these other things to fall into place first. alix: reports from cctv, the china broadcast network, saying china will increase imports of ag products and boost imports of consumer goods and equipment. we've known about the ag products, but consumer goods and equipment is a little bit new. also joining us on set is nate thooft, menu life investment management head of global asset lifecation -- manu

investment management head of double asset allocation. good to see you. ate: we've been watching the dollar closely, but on the whole, it does appear it might be rolling over, but you will have to see more economic data that really reinforces that. we might just be range bound until we actually see a better breadth of global macro drivers, and may be pmi's tomorrow in europe, to actually lift the other currencies to keep that dollar trend intact. alix: we were also talking about earnings, and how it is not painting the best picture. what was your take? yesterday you had united technologies beating and raising, and today you get caterpillar and texas instruments. "tis earnings season. you've got to decide, is it a company or macro issue? caterpillar has always held out that they are a global indicator

of the many factoring space. by the end of the day, we will see what micro soft has to say around the tech sector. vincent: microsoft is looking to do well today. alix: although it's not done as well in the equity market. that has really belong to apple. let's get to another story, which is kind of on the sidelines, kind of related, and that is brexit. what are you doing today? what do you do? lawmakers extending yet again. vincent: way too much optimism yesterday. i think the whole week. alix: to be fair, the first part was approved. vincent: yes, that's a very good sign. mp's and some labour agreed, so it could actually pass. vincent: if they weren't probably in such a rush to get this through because the plan took so long to get into place with eu leaders, because it was kind of a last minute thing. to the mp's credit, this time they really didn't have a chance to look at it.

so they want to get a look at it before they pass it, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. the question is, will boris johnson call the election? the eu will give him at extension. it is going to go after the 31st. they won't trigger a hard brexit. but if he feels confident and calls an election, it could become a referendum on brexit once again. while he may be well in command of the polls at the moment, if the population truly wants to remain, they will go in to vote labour and vote in corbyn, and we will be right back where we started. alix: don't say things like that. [laughter] alix: we are seeing prime minister questions over in u.k. parliament. prime minister johnson saying the brexit deal is a great advance for the whole u.k.. here -- nate, weigh in here. i think the next thing is

seeing how long this will go on. what else can they insert into this and what else can get doubled up into this whole mess where you have disagreements? are they going to push the extension out far enough that boris is just going to be like, let me do an election at this point in time? it is really in the hands of the eu and how they want to deal with this extension, and my view. do they want to do a more traditional short-term to see if they can figure it out, or put at a longer date to keep using that as long as they can come at which leads to a better outcome or an election. vincent: they are between a rock and a hard place. if they call it to late -- call it too late and trigger a hard brexit, that falls on the eu, and that is excepted with they don't want. it most likely will result in election. boris will probably pull the trigger, and everybody will pull back. nate: and the eu doesn't want to

know deal exit because they have such a number of fragile economies in specific countries that just can't deal with that. it is a tough spot right up. vincent: diverse result for the eu is that the u.k. leaves, their economy goes on, nothing happens, and i'll of the other embers of the eu are like, what are we doing here? alix: what it does point to, and this is what i wanted to also bring up, is the broader rotation into value. that has been really stark. we side in september for a minute, but we are seeing it again, having the best two day upswing since 2012. are we learning anything about market rotation here that is getting missed in the earnings? nate: i think it is still down to positioning right now. you had such a long run for growth stocks that you seen some rightsizing and positioning. i'm of the view that this is a positive. what you seen as a broadening of the participation in the market. i'm not seeing this outright

growth to value trade at this point. i still think there's a number of reasons why people want to own growth stocks. we are still in a low growth world, and people should be rewarding companies that still get growth. to me, this is an early sign of perhaps seeing broadening in deeper his patient and the market is outright big rotation, and tech stocks are going to willfully underperform and tell you is going to be the leader. vincent: i agree. i think it is positioning. you're basically spreading your assets across the table, not in one place or another. there's a lot of uncertainty. with that uncertainty, i think the greater spread of your assets and your bets give you the better chance of surviving when the next shoe could fall. alix: i don't know how it applies to the fx market, but we are learning the safety isn't safe. love volatility stocks, some of the consumer discretionary stocks, maybe some of the staples. treasuries, i feel like we've known that now. are we learning this? is this a thing? nate: i think it is more of a

valuation story. the position is just, people have such large positions now, the kind of have to write size those to some extent. yes, there could be a temporary period where some perceived safe havens underperform for a bit, but it is really more about perception and the size of the positions then something has changed fundamentally with those companies. keep in mind, not all defensives have been working. health care is a classic example of one that has underperformed a lot. we know why, but that is one sector that if you're looking for defensives, that might be one place to think about. vincent: defensive fx and treasury haven't worked. the two-year was well bid, but i think that is because of where we've come from. you're just looking at some capitulation, and the hedging situation. just coming back into the market, maybe taking some back off the table. alix: my take away, it is all positioning. take a break.

vincent cignarella, thank you very much. you can hear his trades coming up later in the hour. nate thooft of manulife investment management will be sticking with me. if you want to browse the charts and check out the features, go to gtv under terminal. caterpillar getting a little bit of color here. the cfo blames "greater economic uncertainty for weaker sales." that stock still down by 4% in premarket, off the lows of the session. also some broader china heads here. cctv says china will increase imports of ag products and imports of consumer goods and equipment, and also allow some foreign companies equity investment for capital. we will see if that is part of phase one trade deal. this is bloomberg. ♪

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shares of caterpillar are falling. the largest maker of mining and construction equipment cutting its earnings forecast. in the third quarter, kat reported a drop in sales. it expects demands to be flat. caterpillar warned things were deteriorating in asia. the profit outlook suggests matters have gotten worse. texas instruments rocking the chipmaking sector. the company getting a weaker than expected forecast. it warned trade tensions are making customers far more cautious. the report led to a selloff in semiconductor stocks. texas instruments' predictions are seen as a indicator for the market. softbank will get 80% stake in wework. founder adam neumann will leave the company board. he will walk away with as much as $1.2 billion in stock, a 500

million dollar credit line, and a $185 million credit fee -- million consulting fee. at lessout values it than $8 billion. alix: thanks so much. things could actually get worse. the company is on the hook for the $47 billion in lease payments over the coming year. there's plenty of blame to go around, but that is really not the whole story. what happened to wework is not just a failure of this particular set of individuals. it is a consequence of the last decade of easing money that has made investors throw money at assets promising to grow fast, and they won't last forever. -- nate thooft of manulife investment in its mint -- investment management. nate: certainly defective we people willing to lend

to them, you have this situation where it has exacerbated the fact that a company like this was allowed to get as far into debt and to do some of the activities it had done so quickly in such large size, so i do agree with the concept. the question is, is a really specific to this situation or more pervasive? you can kind of pick and choose your stories with that. generally, credit lending standards have been pretty strong, so i don't think it is holistically a problem. alix: earnings from boeing on deck. lots of readthrough for this quarter. and we will look ahead to microsoft. this is bloomberg. ♪

alix: this is "bloomberg daybreak." we are evolving into an ugly session today. part caterpillar come apart texas instruments. gettinggy in europe hit. s&p futures down 0.3%.

1500,zbank may cut directjobs -- 1500 comm jobs. can we handle the risk off and the steeper curve? that winds up being the question. the yen trying to be the outperform her, along with the dollar in the g10 space. boeing numbers are out right now. let's dig into them here. at onernings coming in dollar 40 have since a share. i am trying to see what the comparable estimate -- $1.45 a share. i am trying to see what the comparable estimate is. on a year on year basis, that would be significantly lower. their monthly production rate. revenue is down 20% year on year, coming in at $20 billion. all of the forecast is also

under the assumption that the max will return to service in the fourth quarter. they are cutting production on the 787, assuming the max is going to return to service in the fourth quarter, and you have a steep decline in earnings and revenue on a year on year basis. not sure about the comp in the market. that stockstill up 0.1%. we will talk about the industrial space. joining the onset is brooke sutherland of bloomberg opinion, bloomberg's senior machinery analyst, and nate thooft from manulife. you've had about three seconds to look at the boeing numbers come about it looks on a year on year basis not great, so i am wondering where the -- wondering why the stock is up. brooke: it is interesting that they are cutting the 787 production rate. taking that down,

that has been a really strong product for them. that signals that they don't necessarily expect all of those china orders to come through, which is a longer-term issue for boeing. i do think it is very interesting, at least for my quick scan of the results, i don't see another charge here for customer compensation. they may still be working that out, but the fact that there is not another massive, multibillion dollar charge related to the grounding of the 737 max may be some thing of a really for investors. point.h, fair they are saying no significant change to the max's estimated potential. is that going to be good enough, though? you see airliners not assuming a fourth quarter delivery, pushing it back to the first quarter of 2020. brooke: i am very surprised they are sticking with this timeline. it may just be that they don't have information at this point to lead them to come up with a new timeline, but based on everything we seen, all of the airlines at this point are not untiled to have this

january 2020 at the earliest. you also have the emergence of those messages between boeing potentially having concerns with that software system at the heart of those two crashes. that is at the heart of whether boeing can allow this to go back into the sky. they will testify before the house and the senate next week, and i think we will see a very hostile exchange there. a lot of doubts over that timeline, and i think it is very interesting that boeing is sticking with it. perhaps a vote of confidence here, if you want to be optimistic, but i feel like that has to be rolled back eventually. alix: or could have been worse. could that be the theme here? it actually was worse when you look at caterpillar. what seems so awful in caterpillar's numbers is analysts had already guided down. they were prepped for something bad, and this was a lot worse. what changed for them? reporter: going through the

release, what really surprised me incrementally was resources, basic tin mining equipment. growing in the first and second quarter. it fell 12% in the third quarter. total surprise. that was going to help cushion the blow on construction, so that was a big surprise. construction was also down a lot. alix: is that a one-off, then? reporter: mining is driven by macroeconomics ultimately. metals, for example. with the global economy slowing, eventually they were going to cut capex in mining, and it looks like the customers are doing it sooner than expected. they did site cautiousness. nate: one of the interesting things, there is some story along the line of the intra-and tory -- the inventory change. this is speaking to the macro dynamic. itn at the most basic level, is not particularly good right now given all of the uncertainties out there. caterpillar is just a classic

example because no one wants these large machinery sitting on a lot if they are afraid they are not going to be able to sell it. alix: at what point do you need to buy? when caterpillar actually has a good number, the stock is going to go through the roof. nate: it is interesting, caterpillar has a long line of poor stock performance after announcing. even when they've had good ones earlier last year, the stock has underperformed. you're right, at some point the bottom is in. we are starting to see some early signs with certain types of indicators, particularly out of asia. we saw japan new orders pick up last month. we saw china pmi's not to tear rate more. maybe you have some -- not deteriorate more. maybe you have some really early signs. alix: to that point cut up -- to caterpillar is only down 3%. is that something we can read through? karen: that has been the story

of the quarter. then outs shortfalls, they break, and then they come back. i'm a little surprised by that but the -- by that because the stocks are holding up. bellwether. we will see what they say on the quarter. they used to give color on 2020 in the third quarter. they no longer do that. i don't think they will get much from the ceo. alix: boeing now down by over 1% in premarket. they seem on a year on year basis much weaker on earnings, as well as revenue. the key is that boeing is cutting their 787 production rate. they are still confident on the max. anything else stand up for you? brooke: i think the other big question is any big update on the wide-body production. that has been pushed out because they were having issue with the ge jet engine. is there any update on that timing? that is key to boeing's future

cash flow prospects. cash flow this quarter was very disappointing, as you would expect when you have all those grounded maxes piling up in not being able to be delivered. late yesterday, boeing announced that the head of its commercial airplanes division, kevin mccalla custer -- evan mcallister, was stepping down -- kevin mcallister, stepping down. whenis a big decision dennis muilenburg himself is under pressure, and some have called for him to step down. will there be more changes at boeing?do they need to do more to respond to this crisis? alix: down by 0.7%, so off the lows. how do you look at some been let boeing? there's two stories. one is what brooke is talking about. the other is that the world needs them, they are going to be fine. nate: boeing is such a company specific issue, it is really hard to piece apart what is going on specific to their 737

issues and other dynamics versus what is going on from a macro perspective. i really have a hard time using boeing as a flagship indicator for what is going on in the world right now. there are certainly other ones, caterpillar, for example, that little clearer how they tie into what is going on. i'm not really digging too much into the boeing specifics as it pertains to broader macro issues. alix: we have tech after the bell, microsoft. what are you expecting from tech? where are we going to see the strength? where are going to see the weakness in the fundamentals? nate: i think you continue to have the big themes that play. cloud is going to be key for microsoft. it is a question of how quickly it is still growing, and if we start to see signs it is going to decelerate. i think generally speaking protect, expectations are reasonably low -- speaking for tech, expeditions are reasonably low for this quarter. alix: brooke sutherland, karen

will heart, and nate thooft of manulife investment, good to get your perspective. viviana hurtado this year was -- viviananews hurtado is here with first word news. ministeru.k. prime boris johnson holding talks with labour leader jeremy corbyn. lawmakers rejecting johnson's plan to rush the brexit deal for the house of commons in just three days. president donald trump's acting ambassador to the ukraine has now become one of his biggest impeachment threats. william taylor testified in secret before a house committee, telling of "alarming circumstances." taylor said he was told the president wanted ukraine aid to be contingent on the investigation of the bidens and the 2016 election. that appears to contradict he president's assertion there was no quid pro quo offered to ukraine. china considering a plan to

replace hong kong chief executive carrie lam. that coming from a pro-beijing lawmaker in hong kong. earlier, "the financial times" reported an interim leader could be installed by march. lam sparking months of protests by introducing legislation to allow extradition to china. today that measure was formerly withdrawn -- was formerly withdrawn. withdrawn.ally global news 24 hours a day, on air and at tictoc on twitter, powered by more than 2700 journalists and analysts in more than 120 countries. i'm to the on our tonto. this is -- i'm a viviana hurtado. this is bloomberg. alix: coming up, we look into the world of financial advisors, with the largest private brokerage firm in the industry. we will speak to penny pennington, edwards jones ceo. if you have a terminal, check out tv . miss anything? go back and check it out. this is bloomberg. ♪ loomberg. ♪

viviana: this is "bloomberg daybreak." coming up in the next hour, robin hayes, jetblue ceo. now to your bloomberg business flash. china's state-run cctv is sticking to its blackout of the nba. its a sport channel didn't air the nba's opening game, the first time that's happened in at least a decade. earlier this month, cctv launched its boycott when the general manager of the houston rockets tweeted his support for pro-democracy demonstrators in hong kong. malaysia looking to settle its case with goldman sachs in the 1mdb scandal.

publicly, the government demands butman pay $7.5 billion, negotiators may settle for $2 billion. malaysia is trying to recoup money plundered from the scandal ridden develop and fund. u.s. prosecutors also seeking to punish goldman. it is the end of one of the more dramatic business debacles in recent memory. --tbank rescuing rework rescuing wework with a $9.5 billion package. the fund will get 80% of the startup. founder adam neumann will walk founder adam neumann will walk away with over $1 billion. the bailout values the company at less than $8 billion. i'm of jan or todd of -- i'm viviana hurtado. that is your bloomberg business flash. alix: we turn now to wall street beat, and we focus on the world of initial advisors. edwards jones currently serves over 7 million clients in north america.

joining us is pending pennington -- is penny pennington, edwards jones ceo. sonali basak is here with me as well. $1 trillion, no joke. what you tell clients in this environment, with these risks, about returns, about the environment? penny: the current environment says we are in a lower return environment. we've gotten used to may be 4% gdp growth a few years ago. that is not occurring today. our clients are going to need to plan for those kinds of lower return environments. we say the same thing we've been saying for decades, plan carefully, think long-term, marshal your resources, look at your own tolerance for risk, and allocate your assets appropriately. what does--sonali: that mean in terms of longer-term assets? are you seeing that real demand?

penny: we are not seeing that demand yet in our marketplace, the what we know is what is attractive to ultrahigh net worth individuals becomes more attractive, and manufacturers look at getting it into retail investment. so i am hearing a little bit about that, but i think it will take a bit. sonali: what is keeping people from investing in a bigger way? i'm sure the likes of tony james would really like to know. [laughter] penny: private equity as liquid, and when you are talking about the need for liquidity, when you're talking about folks getting into a comfortable retirement and needing to produce income, private equity is not set up right now to do that. dox: to pivot off of that, your clients have to take on more risk? when you mention risk profile, how do they think of that? assets appropriately allocated are the name of the game. alix: has that changed, though?

hasn't diversification changed in the last 10 years? penny: i wouldn't say it's changed. clients need to be in the right percentage of risk assets for sure. theyi: ubs has said that are seeing more clients move to cash. are you seeing the same thing? penny: anytime there is volatility or uncertainty, people wonder if the mattress is the best place to put it, but we know that is never the best place. the returns were getting on cash right now are essentially zero or negative. that is not going to prepare you well for the long-term. alix: in terms of your business, you grow or do you cut costs and retrench? and then the wildcard of fisher investments, you pick them up? penny: we've been in business for 97 years. we've grown through every downturn. time tothat a perfect

continue to make the investment's we've always had in training and of element of our gross advisors, that is how we impact our clients. ,e have 7 million clients today 40 million clients who think and act like edward jones clients. we need to grow to serve them. sonali: how is the zero fee phenomenon impacting you? is it something you are seeing change behavior other clients? penny: we are not in that business. trading has become commoditized. we are not traders. don't trade with our clients. help them understand what is most important to then, set up tailored strategies to help them achieve that, and then partner with them. zero traits don't factor in. alix: something we are starting on "daybreak" his woman on wall street, where we are talking to the women helping create the rules in finance. you're the only woman ceo who holds this job. how do you hire? what is different that you do today then the industry did 15 years ago when you weren't in

this role? penny: my predecessors, who were men, focused on this. this is not a brand-new thing at edwards jones. 20% of our financial advisors are women. we have been focusing on this for quite some time. we've got to tell the story of what the business of financial advising is. it is not all about stocks, bonds, mutual funds. it is about helping people, about serving the public, and helping improve their lives for the future and the lives of their families. alix: do you feel you want to grow that 20%? penny: absolutely. we ought to be closer to what the population is. clients theive our widest choice for their financial advisors. that is the human being story about what we do. alix: penny, really appreciate your spending time with us today. any pennington, edwards jones

ceo, thank you. cinelli vasek, thank you as well. -- sonali basak, thank you as well. coming up, we speak with eli lilly ceo dave ricks. this is bloomberg. ♪

alix: eli lilly is beating earnings expectations and boosting its forecast this morning. challenges do remain in the industry on drug pricing. the full house is expected to vote on a drug pricing bill later this week. we welcome dave ricks, eli lilly ceo. really appreciate it. the street a little underwhelmed, and part because they are saying your guidance is were fighting more a tax rate rather than fundamental earnings. what do you say to that? dave: i would say we had a strong quarter overall. our products continue to grow the company. in this industry, you need to

launch more things then you lose the patent on. that's how you grow the business, and that's what we did in the quarter. we had a few price headwinds this quarter, as well as the headwind of generic cialis, which went off patent last year. those things combined our double-digit growth headwinds this quarter. they will reseed -- they will recede. we are excited about the growth prospects for the company. alix: the question ever run really wants to know -- the question everyone really wants to know, what reform for medicare do you think will actually happen? many say there is one passed by the senate committee that would be manageable, and some saying this would actually be destructive for you guys. what is the most likely scenario you see? [laughter] dave: well, that is a very difficult question for me to answer. i'm not in congress, so i don't

get to vote on these things. if i was, i would support some important reforms which are included in the senate package. there are some things we don't like in there as well, but these are primarily aimed at the part d drug benefit, which is focused on senior care. we had this program. it's been very successful and very popular, but we know there's improvements that could be made. have serious conditions and expensive medication, part d doesn't have a price cap. one thing we would like to see is the benefit of the rebates shared with the plaisance -- with the patients. that is not included in either package. that is a huge missed opportunity. we make insolent, as you know, and that is one product where there is an enormous spread between the list price and the net price. is the money in the middle

going to supporting premiums and other purposes. we like to see some or all of that shared with patients who have serious illnesses. why can't they benefit from the negotiated saving? alix: if we take into account some of the details in the senate, drug companies will have to pay a 20% discount and limit some subsidies. you can't raise prices beyond the cost of inflation. if that happens, what do you do in your business? how do you plan for that? is it less r&d? what do you do? dave: mostly, we support. the peace we don't agree with is capping the list price. of course, today, list prices are basically at that level. that might be an upside if we got cpi these days. the part d benefit was meant to delegate the negotiating authority to third parties, to

plan to provide the benefit. we already have cpi-based price caps in every agreement in part d, so it is a redundant principal, and it introduces the specter of government price controls. we don't like that. if the rest of that package went through, there are some products that will pay more into the system, but also, they will probably need less discontinuation of therapy, which patients abandon their prescriptions, seniors in this case, at the pharmacy counter because they can't afford it. that is a bad outcome for the senior, a bad outcome for america's health care system, and we lose the sale and the prescription. it would address those fundamentals. mostly, we like those elements in the senate package. the house version is a totally different story. alix: the house version, many totallyy, would be catastrophic. not palatable at all. basically, the prices for drugs would have to have an average cost of drugs through other

countries. you will get fined if you didn't deliver. do you look at this as this could happen, or is this just the first step, but we've got to get it together because drug pricing is coming down in some way? dave: we do need to get it .ogether as an industry that is our response ability. that is why we are leaning forward and proposing reforms like we just discussed on the senate side. the house package is totally different piece. it attempts to import price controls already enacted in other countries and apply them here. it empowers the secretary of hhs to directly negotiate prices. it's not much of a negotiation, though, because if we don't agree, they can are revenue up to 95%. that is a pretty punitive negotiation, i would say. it is not a balance package. trillion out of this industry over the course of seven years. that's about 40% of the u.s.

business. there is no way we will have the industry we have today if that occurs. there won't be investments in r&d as we see today. i'm not sure what investor would want to put money into an industry with that onerous price control. it seeks not to regulate just government programs, but the entirety of the u.s. marketplace for medicines. it is a huge overreach. i do expect it to pass the house on purely partisan lines. i hope it doesn't progress much farther beyond that. alix: just to round out the conversation, talking about mna, you are strong into, day -- into m&a recently. do you rethink your strategy? dave: we are pleased with our mna strategy -- our m&a strategy, which is first to allocate resources to our r&d. we are trying to innovate new

medicines every day. that is core to our strategy. competent that with assets developed within laboratories outside the company, and biotech, etc. we made the strongest acquisition ever in oncology that has been very successful so far, noted by the phase ii results we read out in september. overall response rate in lung cancer for the lead asset was over 60%. that is an incredible number in lung cancer. those kinds of the filaments really encourage us to continue to look for medicines that can change the lives of people, whether in our labs or outside. alix: great to speak with you. thanks a lot. eli lilly ceo dave ricks on earnings. caterpillar and texas instruments being highlighted on the downside. they will be weighing on the market overall. caterpillar way above the lows

of its session. this is bloomberg. ♪ alix: welcome to "bloomberg daybreak" on this wednesday, october 23. happy hump day. i'm alix steel. let's take it right from the top. pm johnson: this is a great advance for the whole of the u.k. alix: british prime minister boris johnson considering his next move on brexit. >> parliament should have the necessary time to improve on this worse than terrible treaty. alix: it could be calling a general election. parliament blocked his plan to rush a brexit plan into law. impeachment is a dirty, disgusting bird. -- disgusting word. alix: william taylor's testimony

could bolster the likelihood of an impeachment vote in the house. facebook ceo mark zuckerberg is on the hill today. >> facebook's mark zuckerberg prepared to go on offense. >> he will talk about policy lapses, possible antitrust violations, and cryptocurrency. in the markets, it is going to be about the macro dominating. cctv talking about china buying more stuff from the u.s., but it is going to be caterpillar and texas instruments earnings weighing on the market. a little bit of safety creeping in. treasuries bid ahead of an auction later today. joining me for the hour is mark chandler of bannockburn. good to see you. apparently, you're not looking at caterpillar, necessarily. what are you looking at? mark: caterpillar is part of the story for the agricultural sector out of the united states. we've got argentina, ecuador,

chile problems. i'm focusing on where caterpillar is doing their business. alix: i love that you brought that up. we haven't spent enough time on chile. developed markets having this kind of unrest so many years after the financial crisis really has to raise some questions for macro thinkers as to what is happening here in the world. mark: exactly. alix: earnings reports are rolling out fast and furious this morning. we were just talking about caterpillar. a pretty gloomy outlook. also have texas instruments issuing an abysmal outlook. joining us for half of the hour is tony despirito, black walk -- disparate have -- tony head ofo, blackrock u.s. income. coney: when you look at -- tony:

when you look at the beats, the percentage is higher, although the size is a little bit lower. mark: what do you thing about what is happening? it seems to me as they report the earnings, they move the guidance downward for next year. are you seeing a repeat of q4 from last year? tony: i see it is more company specific and less of a theme. there's been the expedition of a recovery, and that recovery is getting pushed out. i think that is a common theme among industrial companies. on the consumer side of the economy, there we are seeing much more positive activity. alix: but we had hasbro yesterday, which wasn't the case. they warned about trade. then you talk about the outlook, and caterpillar sounded pretty terrible. they were also guiding for not great earnings, and it was even worse than everyone expected. texas instruments, they are like the first port of danger. what do you see that's good

here? instruments, i would put that on the industrial side, same as caterpillar. on the flipside, look at some of the health-care care company's reporting. if you look on the hmo side, we have companies that are growing their earnings point percent plus this year, and yet are at low double-digits. mark: how are they doing that? tell us about how they are growing their earnings. tony: first of all, these companies grow because demographics, populations growing. alix: we are all getting old is basically what he's saying. [laughter] tony: unfortunately, yes. so we consume more health care when we are older. that means a growing revenue base. these companies are also getting more efficient. they are getting larger. they are using technology to control costs. their administrator's costs are coming down. that is leading to better margins. mark: do you see this as being an inflationary thing?

as a macro person, i am looking for early signs of inflation. is this a problem we should be on the lookout for? tony: health care has been for my entire lifetime on the higher end of the cpi, so this is nothing new. in terms of inflation, that is not some i'm worried about. i actually think the inflation numbers have been pretty muted, and that is a good thing because that has allowed the fed to be more dovish, which has been very supportive to the market. we actually have real interest rates that are negative today. alix: on the broader sense, you mission health care, but are we seeing anything about value and growth? i feel like earnings have people over the expectation we have seen in the market. you seem the best today outperformance -- the best two-day outperformance in growth since 2012. tony: in september, we saw growth stocks coming down, value

stocks doing well. that quickly reversed out. i think what that reflects is that valuation spreads on the market are very high sis is tickly -- very high statistically. that definitely creates opportunity for the value investor, but you've got to be careful because there are lots of value traps out there. there are a lot of industries being disrupted, more than ever in our lifetime. i think it is really important. it is important to emphasize quality and value. that is what we do around the blackrock equity dividend fund. are you thinking about shifting more towards value, or still a growth driven market? tony: incrementally, there is always some trade-off. we are moving a little more towards valuations, but that said, i think you can have a little but of your cake and eat it, too. with some of the disappointing ipo's, i think people are becoming increasingly worried

about some of the growth companies that don't mike money. i think that's where you have to be careful. alix: they might have gross because of cloud, but they are worried about profit ability. -- about profitability. tony: exactly. alix: there's conversation that maybe the dollar has peaked. what is the story in your world? mark: i think a lot of people have been looking for the peak. the country i thought was interesting was norway. last week, the norwegian krone hit record lows against the dollar, record lows against the euro. , --er widgeon stock market the norwegian stock market i think might be up 2% to 3% this year. in some ways, it is a value growth play being played out globally, europe being the value play. i still don't see much traction. alix: everyone wants to buy it, but they are scared of the trap.

that's a great point. what is going to be the spark? tony: watch industrial production. industrial production numbers outside the u.s. have been very weak. in the u.s., they haven't been great, but they've been better. i think that is the key driver. on the growth side, the other thing that is important is to make sure you are buying quality growth, quality businesses. as young as you are buying high-quality business models, your good. alix: both of you are sticking with me. much more to get into. norfolk southern reported at the top of the hour. they did miss estimates, earnings coming in at $2.49. that stock not really moving yet. coal revenue was down by about 13%, so that is weighing on the company. coming up, it is brexit limbo. you are looking at a live shot of parliament. more on that next. what do we do? where do we go? how do you trade? this is bloomberg. ♪

pm johnson: our policy remains unchanged that we should leave the eu at the end of this month. we will leave on october 31 if we can make that, if honorable members opposite will comply, and i will report back to the house and due course. alix: u.k. prime minister boris speaking earlier in parliament. for the latest on brexit, anna edwards joins us from westminster. i'm not very clear as to whether or not boris johnson is saying he's going to get an extension or if he is going to call for an election. what are you hearing? kevin: speaking in --anna: speaking in parliament and brexit clarity don't always go together, do they?

he pointed out the policy is still to leave on october 31. that does not mean that the u.k. will leave on october 31. he went on to say that it depends on whether the opposition will comply. obviously, the opposition will comply on the timetable. we found that out last night. he's waiting for eu reaction. he also said that. last night, he said we should not delay. to thel sent a letter eu, parliament's letter, he calls it. what he says isn't always fully represented of of the story, i would say. he says in terms of the common, it does look incredible difficult for parliament to meet that october 31 deadline. now we went to find out whether we have a revised timetable and maybe break it still happens under boris johnson steel, but just a little bit later, or whether we have a longer extension, and then we see a general election taking place. alix: thank you for helping us

keep all of that straight. with me on straight, mark chandler of bennett burn and tony despirito of blackrock. $1.28?u do with cable at tony: it is clear to me how well sterling is holding up despite greater uncertainty. i think the issue isn't the timetable, but what needs to be done. there still hasn't been economic assessment of the deal that was worked out. alix: it is like we are not even there yet. economic assessment? we are just trying to get a timetable. that so during the treaty formed the monetary union, it was a 20 day debating period for parliament. now the government wants to do it in three days, for the future of the u.k. so it seems next to impossible to be able to do it in that timeframe. i think there will be a delay, and as you've pointed out, whether they have an election, that would be my leaning. that they have an election next

month because they still can't be sure that the deal will pass. even when it passes, this brexit story is going to be the gift that keeps on giving to you in the media because after they get to this agreement, whatever it is, there is going to be a one your standstill where they negotiate a new postdivorce relationship, and that could still end up falling apart and leading them back to the w standards dashed to the dub etf standards rather than undo agreement -- to the wto standards rather than a new agreement. alix: tony, how do you think about it in your world? tony: first of all, we are in the later innings of an economic cycle. that means rising volatility. we are in a presidential election cycle in the u.s. that means rising volatility. then we have brexit and the china issues. mark: rising volatility is not just a subjective thing, but also implies direction. stock market volatility, the vix

goes up in the stock market goes down. aren't we also talking about direction? higher interest rates, lower stocks? more movement, but directionally biased? tony: i am not seeing that because we are not in a recession. i think we are more trading within a range, and that is what we seen over the last 12 to 18 months. the s&p 500 has been very much range bound. alix: can i tie this back to ?hile the idea of a lot of unrest in whating markets, look at is happening. at the same time, you are seeing factions in different politics in the developed market world. how do you see this as a trend? this is a global inequality problem that governments of all ages are going to have to confront. how do you think of it? tony: you are right.

there's been rising income inequality in the u.s. for 30 or 40 years now, so it is a big issue. you see it results in political divides. it also results in simple to flip-flop in the electorate. i think that is one of the values of having a 60 vote requirement to get most things done in the senate. this has to be a really clear issue. take a look at brexit. it is pretty close to 50-50. of 20we had this period years or so, reagan-thatcher, were the driving factor. now we see stakeholders over shareholders, environmental issues, national security, income disparity, wealth disparity. noneconomic efficiency issues arising to the fore. for investors, that has real invocations. how is a company paying its

workers? if i companies paying low wages, that is a risk factor that you need to look at an take into account. i think that becomes increasingly important for investors. mark: at the world bank imf meetings, there is talk that the world banks might want to impactr environmental are you beginning to do that when you have all your weight equities -- impact. are you beginning to do that when you evaluate equities? tony: it is something we look at when we evaluate a company. it as weo thing about integrate esg, but we don't have a deliverable, per se. alix: we are going to continue this conversation in just a bit. mark chandler and tony despirito will be sticking with me. coming up, helen qiao, bank of america merrill lynch chief china economist. this is bloomberg. ♪

>> we want to encourage not just a trade truce, but actually trade piece because -- trade peace because that is the only thing that is going to get rid of underlying uncertainty and stimulate trade and growth. alix: the organization cut asia growth forecasts in its latest report, with projected growth of 5% this year and 5.1% next year. that would make it the slowest pace of expansion since the global financial crisis. for more, helen qiao, bank of america merrill lynch chief greater china economist, joins us. mark chandler of bennett burn is still with me as well. if that's still to -- of bannockburn is still with me as well. is that still too optimistic? helen: i took a quick glance at the numbers. i would say that as of 2019, we are mostly in line, but for

2020, there is some discrepancy in where we see things could go. for example, in china, or number is 5.7%. i think the imf just lowered it to 5.8%. we think that is an encouraging moves that they are coming in line to where the market is, but achieving five point 8% is not necessarily an easy job either. for example, we are expected in that policy easing has to step up in the near future, and that is why we have our baseline there. otherwise, they could still slip further through the crack. you were disappointed this week when he pboc did not set the new prime loan rate. is he pboc signaling to us that we might have to wait a while longer? helen: the pboc were probably thinking they have already done enough, to be honest. they would say, we have done so much. look at the previous months, and look at what we have done.

that is an acceleration. in our view, we don't think they have done enough. we think the risk is that they probably have fallen behind the curve, and they definitely need to do more. in addition to the lpr cut which they should have done, they also should have cut the benchmark interest rate, which covers not just new lending, but also existing lending stock. the loan stock is the massive quantity we are talking about. but they refused to do that. but we think we would require them to do is to wait for the to nextmost likely week, when the politburo meeting is held. and then the president will step out and say we need to do some adjustment. alix: go ahead, mark. mark: of course, with the trade conflict with the u.s., we see that as a headwind on china, but how much of this is china economy just slowing down as it matures? it is now slowing past 6%. how much of an impact is the

trade, and how much of it is really just china and its own evolution? helen: this is a terrific question. there are many things that are combined at the moment that really slow down such a giant economy. you have trade, but i would have to say that it's more a 2018, but we have been slowing down since march 2017. partly it was china itself, but it wasn't all structural. consumption than investment is part of it, but there was also deleveraging. they have been driving very hard throughout 2017 and early 2018. that was really slowing down the economy. secondly, you have a with aturing sector slowing change. there is a large part of the economy exposed to that. that is overall affecting the china overall economy, but we think it can be denied -- it can't be denied that the output gap is already pretty negative,

and playing that our actual growth fell below our long-term potential, and policy easing needs to step up. alix: we also got some headlines today from cctv that said things like china is going to mp's -- going to increase import of ag products, going to buy consumer goods, equipment, etc. when we see those headlines, we think may progress is being made on trade talks. what do you think? helen: i would tend to say the same thing, but i would be more skeptical than saying we are all good. [laughter] i would never say1 that we are neverod -- alix: i would say that we are all good, for sure. helen: a lot of the nature of the changes in this trade deal, or phase one and phase two of such deals, as that they are probably just checking and proposing, and then rechecking, reassessing. the problem is right now, it looks like $40 billion to $50

billion import on an annualized basis. that is a huge number. we were talking about china in the past buying, at most, $20 billion at the peak level can 2012. if they really push it all the way up, that is a big number, and i would say that would mckay huge difference to the bilateral trade imbalance. but in the meantime, there are some anymore critical things that haven't been resolved. for example, huawei. the technology stuff. not askingng adr's, company's to invest in chinese assets. we have some any other things that have been completely unaddressed, so where are we in that particular trade negotiation? i'm not sure that phase i is already the answer. mark: how much do you think china, which has a horrible food inflation because of a shortage of protein, soy and meat, so

importing more is out of china anne necessity rather th doing u.s. farmers a favor? helen: it is both, and i think trade benefits both sides. it is not just doing u.s. a favor. it is helping china, too. has done such a job to the hog supply that there's almost a surplus in soy, because soybeans are the main feed. we don't have too many hogs alive. alix: we have to leave it there. thank you for joining us today. this is bloomberg. ♪ devices are like doorways

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got money going the bond market, but change happening in the fx market. so what that might say about risk appetite improving a little bit, we'll see as the session goes on. bond auction coming later on today and earnings and how investors digest the numbers over the next few hours. it's been eight years and it's now time to say goodbye to mario draghi he will oversee the monetary meeting of his term tomorrow and for a look the economics of the euros on under his tenure, we turn into mike mckee. what's the report card? >> it's hard to sell up eight years in three charts but we can get a picture of the presidency by looking these. take a look first at this chart. this is the one that will really be his legacy. remember whatever it takes, it was just a few months into his presidency when he came out and said the eurozone, we will do

whatever it takes to hold it together and that should be enough and it was. you can see where bond yields were at the time. greece, 33% on its 10-year note and look what's happened since. greece is at 1.3%. it's been a massive change and to that, you can credit mario draghi. in terms of his mandate, what is he supposed to do? that report card, not so good the metric for the e.c.b. is to keep inflation stable just below 2%. and you can see the blue line there. he's not making it. and on a consistent basis, he one able to do that. they lowered the deposit rate down to negative 50 basis points. still not helping. i threw in growth there because it shows a weakness in the eurozone that the e.c.b. has not been able to address. so now he leaves.

can his successor do any better? what did he leave christine lagarde? not a whole lot of tools that are working. at the i.m.f. meetings, people talked about what the e.c.b. can do next and when you look the balance sheet just starting to go up, you look at the deposit rates, negative. and most people don't t one possibility ithe targeted long-term refinance operations. the e.c.b. lends the banks if they lend that money on. and they lend it at a very low rate so that could work but the first auction of the third round did not go well. so they may have to adjust that. but that's for christine lagarde to decide. mario draghi just one more meeting to go. alix: great setup. ith me, mark chandler and tony dispirito of black rock. i know you like value quality. anything in europe for that?

>> yeah. so we were discussing u.s. versus europe as a market and i think the data that we just saw, you know demographics are better in the u.s., g.d.p. is better and inflation is more stable and at a better rate around 2% that's why u.s. stocks are doing better. so we like the u.s. market. i think that's where you want to stay. that being said, you could find pockets of opportunity in europe but it's pockets. it's not broad based. >> it seems that the -- what strikes me is europe has these negative interest rate as might have was pointing out and germany looks like they're having a recession. look like they contracted q-2, q-3 with negative interest rates. you would think that the lower price would increase the demand for it and even though loaning to households and non-financial businesses are increasing, still low inflation. this is the mark of our era is low inflation. it used to be politicians,

central bankers would sneeze and would cause inflation and now they can't do anything with inflation. alix: the meetings, we heard from germany we're doing it with the 54 billion euros of green investing. we don't need to do a huge bazooka of fiscal stimulus. do you think we need it? do you have to think about that? >> it's an easy call for germany to do fiscal stimulus. they have one of the best budget deficits in the world among developed countries. they're clearly in recession territory. it's a easy and positive ecision. >> it's always easy for countries like united states to tell germany you got to get more into debt. it's like the grasshopper and the ant.

it's the debtor country that want the creditor country to spend more money. you spend more money. alix: but in this case, i mean, as mike pointed out, like you've seen negative interest rates and you've seen tell trose and push the money out but the hasn't been a demand for it. isn't that a logical conclusion to go to fiscal? >> logical conclusion from our world view but germany and other countries in europe and it's not just germany that is on a tight fiscal ship, the netherlands and sweden that don't think fiscal stimulus is a way to get ggregate demand. and i think this is a debate between with a they call liberalism and neo-liberalism. alix: wow, it's a whole different level of conversation there. what do you think? >> i think the challenge is i don't think the negative rates are working. think hasbeen how hard it is. and that's why i look at the

fiscal stimulus. what does it moon for investors? we're looking at an odd world where you can get more yield from equities than from bonds the 10 year treasuries. 1.75%. the subpoenaed subpoenaed is more than that. and -- s&p 500 is more than that. and think about fixed income. it's fixed for the next 10 years whereas equities, if the market's doing its jobs, the income should double over a 10-year period. it's a weird world. it's very unique about that. >> people are trading bonds for capital gains. and they're trading equities for the yield. >> and you see the volatility, actually. bond volatility is rising. >> these countries with anything interest rates, the yield from the stock market with the daxon or the neck kay.

-- nikkei. alix: do you like the dividend proxies? >> you have to be careful. some of the bond proxies have been bid up. stocks trading about 25 times earnings is a different risk. when we look for yield, we're looking much more at the growth income over time, looking at stocks that can grow their dividends because they have good quality compounders and free cash flow trends. that what we're looking for. alix: so the curve that we've seen, we're about 18 basis points, it's ban steep for the. what scenario in the bond market starts to make you rethink your hesis? >> i think we dot the stimulus of fed.

that should help the economy pick up that's good for earnings. it's good for the stock market. and then later, then you start to worry about inflation. but that's later. >> i worry that the low interest rate in europe, negative interest rate in the working. that going to stimulate the economy? i mean is it going to help corporate america and consumers in i'm not so sure. >> the housing market has pin picked up. we're seeing some of the best housing data for about a year and a half. that's one of the areas that the fed can really help. alix: fair point. it was great to do have you on we'll sticking with me. we do want get an update on what's making headlines outside of our business world. viva? >> he's waiting for the e.u. to respond to his letter requesting

a delay. johnson would recommend the delay for the other 27 e.u. members. and the british police found 39 bodies in a truck driven from bulgaria. a man from northern-year-old has been arrested on -- ireland has been arrested on murder. ambassador trump of ukraine is one of the biggest impeachment threat. taylor said he was told the president wanted ukraine aid to be contingent on the investigations on the bisons and the 2016 election. that -- there there's was no prid kuo pro offered to ukraine. this is bloomberg.

alix? alix: thank you. a quarter of the countries already out with earnings so far. >> let's start with the earnings report. we saw the shares slide in early trading. the call with analysts got underway and we're starting to see those shares. they did tick into the green but back into nelling territory. the concern here is really all about demand. the c.e.o. calling out again global economic uncertainty staying on the course coming from trade and other factors. and when it comes to demand, caterpillar is seeing the end users are putting off investment decisions and all of this contributing to the first decline in quarterly earnings in some three years. e lowdown in the shell patch

impacting caterpillar. another big story from boeing. we saw shares decline in early trading. they have reversed to trade more positively now, up 1.3% in the premarket and this seems to be investors really likeing what seems to be an optimistic plan or map for the company to bring the 737 max jet back to service. the c.e.o. saying its safe return the top priority. also saying that they expect the 737 max jet to return before the end of this year. remember, u.s. ally don't expect it until next year. they also plan to ramp up production next year. finally a conduct look at the health insurers. the drug makers with beat and raises good for officials. not so much for eli lilly despite the c.e.o. touting the fact that new drug sells were -- sales were doing well. st the sell of key drugs that

were not doing so well and analysts didn't like. alix: thank you, emma. bloomberg users interact with the charts we're using this is bloomberg.

>> come alix: we have breaking news. president trump reportedly will make a statement at 11:00 a.m. at the white house on turkey and syria he tweeted there's a big success on the border and there

is a state zone that create the cease-fire has helped combat missions have ended. he will be making a statement at 11:00 a.m. the question what is that means for u.s. sanctions on turkey and will they be lifted if everything is settled down between syria, turkey and the u.s. involvement there. time now for bottom line. we're going to look at three ompanies worth watching. we work, the official handoff here. >> it's finally here. softbank stake will be 80% of the company. wework will be an associate of softbank, not an subsidiary. that will mean $20 billion liabilities of bank that softbank is expose today, not to mention the future leases of $47 billion. adam newman will not the chairman the company but the soft softbank executive will be chairman. alix: next, boeing. what are some more standouts for

you? >> you know, i think there's still a lot of uncertainty for me. you're seeing the stock rise a little bit over 1% this morning and that's largely a reflection of the fact that you do not have a significant increase in expectations for compensating customers. boeing still expects the 737 max to be put back into service in the fourth quarter and it thinks that it can ramp up production relatively quickly after that and get to 57 planes a month by the end of 2020. that is sticking with its prior guidance on the 737 max even after you've had a flooded negative headlines and that time line may be pushed back. i expect management will get a lot of questions on that on the earnings call and you may see some crack emerge as analysts answer their questions. and the wide body production with boeing cutting production of its 787, a reflection of weaker demand from china and it expects the triple 7 x-jet to be

delivered if 2021. that is a change from july. that plan is being held up because of the jet engine. still a lot of questions for boeing as we get into that earnings call. alix: we'll have the update. and a third company is jetblue. so shares soared the most in three years. yesterday, that's on a favorable outlook for airfares and we're very grateful that we had the c.e.o. joining us now to take us through the plan of action, robin hayes. thank you so much for being with us. >> thanks for having me. alix: part of it is poaching you forcing you come on tv. i want to relay sustainability to earnings. how do you become sustainable and invest in that when it may not be profitable yet and deal with profitability and growth. >> it's a great question. in simply cost and revenue, in terms of one of our largest costs in the airline is our fuel cost. and so we have every financial incentive to reduce the amount

of fuel that we're using through to use of more modern engine technology, better a.t.c. patents and also investment in things like sustainable aviation fuel and revenues. more and more scattered showers customers are aware on the environmental impact that the city has and if we don't, we will see impact in demand longer term. mark: i see that the green party is on the rise and many europea americans still more or less in denial about how serious the is appeal to american consumers? >> i think it's changing and it's changing quickly. i talked to my colleagues that are already starting to see the impact of this and some of the research that we see see here shows that consumers are not changing behavior yet but they're very conscious of it and they might. the challenge for us as industry to provide the answers to their questions so that aviation doesn't just become seen as an

essential form of travel. alix: which brings up how do you agree? grow and that's one of the bigger questions for jetblue. you're not low cost enough to complete compete with a frontier but you're trying to appeal with business consumers in dealing with cross atlantic travel. how do you do that? how can you do both? >> well, i mean, it is simplest and we've been doing it for 20 years. we want to offer customers a great product with low fare. and when we think about the opportunities to fly to europe, we see the tun because the competitors are gouging with the high fare. if you want to fly to london from new york, you're probably going to pay $8,000, $10,000, that's an obscene fare. the opportunity for jetblue is to change that. we've done it already. we started flights from the northeast to california back in 014 with our mint experience

which is a premium offering. and fares are less than half as they were five years ago and and here's are getting a better experience. we've been doing it for 20 years. mark: there there any little tricks we should be doing? alix: by a ticket. >> let's start with that. you're going to get a great fare. and you're going to get great service. coming to bloomberg reminds me of flying to jetblue of all the free snacks. you guys have it great. we offer free wi-fi, the most leg room, free drinks and snacksing and the best crew members in the industry. alix: can you do it alone or do you have to buy? did you have to merge with somebody in europe that has a ig distribution? >> we work with 50 different airline partners. and that's the way that the industry has involved. you don't have to buy anybody. you are seeing international

airlines joint ventures. it's hard for them to form borders because of ownership restrictions we work with 50 partners and we offer connectivity. alix: the other question is boeing. so the story, that is taken a lot of cassidy off market. when it comes back on market, that's going to depress fares and hurt you guys. how do you position? >> if we think about the capacity's really affected this year. if the capacity comes back to 2020, that capacity is always going to be there anyway. the airplanes were already going to be flying. we really think the setup is going to be similar to what we expected. alix: no decline? in fare? >> whenever capacity comes off, there is the risk of global fares. that's the supply and demand issue from a jetblue

perspective, there's a lot of things that we're doing with the loilt side and new fares rolling later this year and that should allow us to post increases in 2020. alix: thank you for joining us, robin. mark, thank you for joining us on the hour. nd we got an earnings slump. eli lilly had trade and if you're heading out jumping into your car, tune into bloomberg radio. this is bloomberg. ♪

alix: bielema loany joins me now. listen to bill on the bloomberg on gtv go. texas instruments could be very early open here. >> it is definitely going to be an ugly open. the stock has been in an uptrend

ince december but it will gap. alix: so what about caterpillar really interesting price action early. it was down 6% after earnings and now it's down .3% of 1%. >> the initial trade they hammered it in the premarket. now we're back to little change. first report is going to be around the 130 but resistance because it is little change. look for 134 which was yesterday's high and then second resistance is around 140. but really the key in the chart and you go back five years, clearly a long-term down trend below 140. alix: yeah, exactly. eli lilly is our last stock. so interesting the number solid raised their forecast but that wasn't enough for the street. because of a tax bill and they were worried-a-their drugs not

selling as they start. what's the chart? >> clear down trend since march. it's clear resistance. levels today, first report around the bottom of the july range around 105. that fails. look at 103. alix: good stuff, thanks, bielema loan ye. coming up, j.p. morgan management and global market strategist. this is bloomberg. this is bloomberg.

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taken center stage. and the never ending bridgewater story. parliament boxing johnson's plan to rush up its deal and mark zuckerberg heading to the hill. good morning, good morning. here is your wednesday morning price action. futures negative. no drama here. euro drama unchanged. and a bit into the treasury market. 1.74. big issues. the outlook for 2020. >> >> maybe we are looking at better earnings for even 2020. >> expectations were very, very low here. >> now they're normalizing and thinking wait a minute. there might be upside here. >> there's always a hockey stick in the fourth quarter when the