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>> even after the loosening of the pandemic there was a worry about him petition, but so far the cannabis sector seems to be holding up, operational. >> from the heart of where innovation, money, and power collide, silicon valley and beyond, this is bloomberg technology with emily chang. [no audio] >> a bombing in afghanistan
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killing 12 u.s. service members and many more afghans in the death toll will undoubtedly climb. the area where the attacks took place was teeming with people trying to flee the country, as they have been for days. the united states are blaming militants for the blast and say that more attacks are expected as the u.s. is continuing to try to withdraw forces from the country and get as many americans out as they can, along with afghans seeking refuge. we are expected to hear from president biden at this hour and we will bring it to you live, but for now we want to get a check on the markets and we have been following the ups and downs of the day. all of this was unfolding across trading hours. talk to us about what you saw. >> this was a half of 1% move across the day. it was important to keep in mind here that the market has not been sensitive to these headlines until today and the
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move -- the mood going into the index were really taking a tumble. whether it was commodities or stocks. right now the market really focusing on what's going to happen tomorrow with jackson hole becoming the prime focus. looking at the tapering story and whether or not it before rate hiking is the way to go. that will of course be spotlighted by anything that chairman powell has to say in addition to anything that has been said by fed speakers today. as far as today's market story, you saw a lot of risk offset, broadly, but the market is not anticipating any kind of longer-term conflict and i can tell you that because of these two tickers at the bottom. the defense etf's have military grade names. when it comes to national security, right now it doesn't seem that the defense names are outperforming and the market
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doesn't seem to expect afghanistan risk to really last much longer. thank you -- emily: thank you for the update and we want to get straight to the white house, we are waiting for the president and what has been unfolding there in kabul has been a nightmare scenario. earlier this week he said he would take it day by day and that he had contingency plans. is it time for the plans now? >> it's a difficult day at the white house and our hearts and minds are with those service members, their families in kabul. he had called for those contingency plans from the pentagon and the state department. we will have to wait to hear what he says and what the general made clear was that the missing continues -- mission continues. they will continue to hunt down who did this and it was interesting, unfolding was the fact of how much the military is
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relying on the taliban on these outside checkpoints, saying that these threats remain very, very active and they are still worried about more threats outside the airport as they tried to continue to get this evacuation done. emily: as you said, those evacuations continuing as well, according to the pentagon, trying to get as many people out as possible in the president himself warned that this might happen, two days ago, warnings to embassies about possible explosions. there have to be people asking why this wasn't avoided. >> it's a very great question and as you ask officials, they continuously say that when the mission is done, there will be a massive hot wash in terms of the debrief on what happened. it all really stems from the fact that they did inc. the taliban would take couple, the capital of the country, even though a week before we had seen them really taking over parts of
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the country in the western and or than parts of the country, they did not think the capital itself and the government would collapse in the just expedient fashion that it did. so, right now you are in a situation where there's only one runway at the airport and if we had the airbase about one hour north, so there is going to be a lot of questions about why the evacuation was so frantic, so chaotic, and the fact that we put those service members in harm's way. you can see that today with these tragic 12 deaths and the u.s. says the mission has to continue and they will do everything they can to get people out. an estimated 100,000 americans remain in afghanistan with tens of thousands really of those afghans that fought alongside during those 20 years or are taking refuge based on humanitarian issues. emily: this is an hour-by-hour,
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minute -- minute by minute situation. thank you so much for the update. we will be with you again as the news unfolds. we are waiting to hear from the president, he could start speaking at any moment. to recap, the death toll those deadly attacks show the level of desperation of afghans trying to flee their country. airbnb is joining the efforts to help the refugees fleeing. the company announced earlier this week that they would house 20,000 refugees temporarily, free of charge. chris, you have announced that anyone, any host, anyone who wants to be a part of the effort can open their homes for free, but i have to start with the folks who are still stuck in the country. you worked in the white house and were a policy communications expert, what are the options right now? what do you imagine is happening behind the scenes?
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>> just looking at the images you were showing, obviously everyone's thoughts, hearts, and minds are with the personnel and the families that were hurt in the incident. you are right. i have been in the white house. i have been in the building when there have been situations and analogous to this and i just know that each and every one of the folks in the building are feeling this, thinking about it, and i think that what this afternoon or this morning demonstrates is how dire and precarious the situation is. our role really is to help support the folks when they come out. from what we have seen in communications, the biden administration, the u.s. government, the people on the front lines are doing an amazing job getting the people out of there in record time and if you think about the hierarchy of need, physical safety is by far the most important and after that it is food and shelter in
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the roles we are seeking to play in terms of providing that shelter for those folks who are able to get out of there. emily: airbnb, they are personally helping with the effort. how much demand have you had to help so far? how many have you spoken to who need help? >> it's starting out as a trickle, but in terms of people getting out, it will turn into a stream and we anticipate a big flood. we have committed through philanthropy to cover the costs to make sure we can how was 20,000 of the folks that we anticipate coming. since we made the announcement, there has been an outpouring of support from around the world. people that who want -- people who want to support, opening up their homes for free, some
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offering to donate finances to support even more people in terms of providing housing. so, as of today, really i was -- really as of this weekend, we had 200 folks that were a part of the first trickle coming out of afghanistan. our role here really is the infrastructure to make the housing possible. you know, we have been at this for about 10 years. we built this muscle and we really do have the infrastructure capacity to be able to provide this housing, whether it is in the united states or around the world and as a bit of an analogy here, we have been supporting refugee work for about 10 years and i think that during the height of the pandemic, we may have talked about this with you about a year ago, we had housing for tens of thousands of frontline responders when they needed to be on the front line, those hospitals and emergency centers, helping us to understand that we can scale at a pretty
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significant level and ultimately we wound inviting 200 and 50,000 nights for people staying with that frontline responder program and it has served as the model for us to recognize the infrastructure for scaling this type of work and it is obviously a terrible, terrible situation in terms of what's going on, but we are here to help provide the infrastructure and the support. emily: airbnb has hosted refugees from various natural disasters and often where they wind up is where they wind up living for the rest of their lives. what have you learned about how he again brought the need is? and if folks want to sign up, what do they need to know? >> first of all, if you want to help, go to airbnb.org/refugee. we have had thousands and thousands of people reaching out to open their homes and give money. i had someone reach out today
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who was a musician, a professional musician who wanted to create a song dedicated to the refugees. just a bit of a sign of how people are thinking about this. you mentioned our history and it minded me of one of our hosts in california, susan bailey. she opened up her home in 2016 to an iraqi refugee and when the refugee got here, it was the same weekend the super bowl was taking place and she got her whole neighborhood together and they watched the super bowl, introduce themselves as refugees who went on to become their neighbors and a member of their community. there are aspirations here in terms of making these airbnb homes available to the wave of refugees that are coming in terms of providing them the temporary shelter that they need immediately in the weeks that they transition, but because airbnb is in a neighborhood, it serves as a way for them to transition in what -- into what could be the next chapter in
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their lives and in the lives of their family. for us it's not a couple of weeks, it's a long-term commitment by us and the entire community. emily: i just want to recap the news, these deadly explosions in kabul, dozens of afghans killed. when i think about just the images of desperation over the last few days, the people falling, the speed at which the taliban took over, putting on your white house policy hat, was president biden right pull out when he did? is he right to be sticking to this august 31 deadline? should it be moved up at this point? >> i appreciate the question and like all of us, we are following the this hour-by-hour. what we have seen from our end in terms of our work with the administration, the folks on the ground are doing a pretty amazing job in a really
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difficult situation of getting people out in what by any objective analysis is really record time. again, our role here is to help provide the housing to support what the government and others are doing. there's a bunch of nonprofits participating. the irc, religious and faith-based organizations are helping. again, we are all watching and appreciate what is going on. i would say you know, try to look for the positives. the fact that we have had so many people who want to help, reach out their hands, open up their homes and find a way to play a concrete role to help these folks. i think of that as a positive in what is otherwise a really challenging situation. emily: other companies inspired
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by what you are doing, offering free health of ointments. crisler hain, formerly at the white house, thank you for sharing your perspective with us . we continue to wait for president biden at the white house, who will have remarks on the attacks in afghanistan. we will bring that to you, live. stay with us, this is bloomberg. ♪
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emily: you are looking at live pictures from the white house. we are waiting for president biden to speak on the deadly explosions in kabul today. the u.s. continuing efforts as
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fast as possible for evacuations even as terror threats remain. in the meantime i want to turn to the earnings of the day, pellet on tumbling after hours after they released a worst than expected outlook or the 2022 fiscal year with investors reacting to the announcement that they are cutting the price of their bike by $400. good news for customers but al-anon says it will take a toll on sales and profits in coming months and we get more details on that when i speak exclusively with the pellet on ceo john foley tomorrow morning. catch that tomorrow at 8 a.m. right here on the west coast. sticking with earnings over the last couple of weeks, bumble gave an optimistic outlook for revenue this quarter, buoyed by expectations that users will continue to make the first move and that prospective daters will respond in kind amidst continued uncertainty around the surge in covid cases and they have benefited from re-openings around the world, the return of
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in person socializing spurring users to spend more on in app purchases. we want to bring in their ceo for more. obviously, the pandemic is dragging on, restrictions are going up, coming down in fits and starts. how is this impacting the activity that you see on the app and what kind of a dating scene do you expect to see this fall? >> it's really fascinating, despite the challenges the world has been facing with delta, we continue to see very positive trends across the platform. we have referenced this before, even in the most affected markets, like in q2 we saw increasing engagement and activity, even with the spread of delta in india. the app, most active users grew 60% year-over-year in the market during that time and it suggests that as loneliness climbs and as people go through devastating
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chapters, the need to connect and find relationships does not this appear. the demand stays and we become the only outlet where you can't go out in person. we continue to gain shares and maintain download shares in the major markets throughout the covid crisis and we are really looking to the future now with silver linings through the chapter as far as what will want and we have seen the intentionality spike. people are really now really looking for specific relationships and they want to find them quickly and safely so even as the world goes back to call it normal, people will still come to our products first to meet in a digital safe capacity, to vet the person and understand who is on the other of the screen and then in real life, so we really do see strong results on either side of the
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covid scenario. despite the challenges that we have seen, there are positive trends. emily: speaking of trends, dating in general can be tough, pandemic dating is tougher, the dating app seen can be frustrating. some people are tired of making the first move, conversations for or getting no response. what do you say to the people who say, why should i pay for this if i am not having luck? >> this is the easiest, safest way to meet people. going out to a bar and sitting around and waiting for someone to walk by, this is outdated and candidly the luck in that category is very low. we have so many options. you can adjust your filter, your settings, travel on the product. even if you are not having luck in a particular moment, town, or range of settings, you have this
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remarkable optionality to change what you are looking for and we have heard countless stories of someone who hasn't found what they are looking for that then go into their intentional features and say i want someone of this religion, someone looking for something serious, someone who is only a social drinker, they can be so particular about what they are looking for until the person they are looking for falls into their lap you don't have that option in real life. you can't customize the person you want to meet in the real world. our products give you this incredible opportunity to take control of what you are looking for and to find it. emily: you have been doing innovative things when it comes to employee wellness. giving everyone a week off at the same time and other companies have followed you in doing this. what did you learn from this
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reset week, if you will, and over going to see this every year? >> we decided to give everyone a week off together so that there was no anxiety about feeling like you are not responding or when you come back you are buried under a weeks worth of work that you missed. by shutting it off for everyone, you know, the business is doing phenomenally well and we are fortunate to have such an double team that hits their goals and makes sure that everything is buttoned up and when you give enough heads up about taking a week off, two months everyone can go out's of mind and actually go away and actually it off-line. burnout is real, zoom fatigue is real. allowing everyone to come back invigorated did wonders for the team and it is so well received that we will be now doing this twice a year. there will be two weeks every
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single year that the whole company goes off and for the naysayers wondering how you keep the lights on, we are a sophisticated team who plans ahead and that's how you keep the lights on, keeping your team feeling well, healthy, mentally and physically. emily: all right, whitney, thank you so much for sharing that with us. it sounds like a really great experiment that yielded great results. appreciate you taking the time to join us. heading to break, another successful mission for blue origin. the purpose was to conduct moon landing tests for nasa. unlike the last test that launched jeff bezos into space, this was not and. the top of the capsule had the pictures of an artist and his family. this is bloomberg. ♪
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emily: we are taking you to the white house where the president just took the podium. >> this evening in couple, -- kabul, as you all know, terrorists attacked, which we have been talking about and worried about, that the intelligence community has assessed, has undertaken, and attack by a group known as isis-k, taking the lives of american servicemembers standing guard at the airport. wounded, several other seriously. also wounded, a number of civilians were killed as well. i have been engaged all day, in
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constant contact, with the military commanders here in washington and at the pentagon, as well as in afghanistan and doha. my commanders here in washington and in the yield have been on this -- and in the field have been on this in great detail and you have had a chance to speak to some so far. the situation on the ground is still evolving and i'm constantly being hated. these american servicemembers who gave their lives, it's an overused word but totally appropriate, they were heroes. heroes who have been engaged in a dangerous and selfless mission to save the lives of others. they were a part of an airlift and evacuation effort unlike any seen in history, with more than
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100,000 american citizens. american partners. afghans who help us. others taken to safety in the last 11 days. in just the last 12 hours or so, another 7000 have gotten out. they are a part of the bravest, most capable, most selfless military on the face of the earth and part of simply what i call the back on of america. they are the spine of america. the best of the country has to offer. jill and i, our hearts ache. i'm sure all of you do as well. for all the afghan families who lost loved ones, including small children, or who have been wounded in this vicious attack. and we are outraged as well as heartbroken.
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being the father of an army major who served for a year in iraq and before that was in kosovo, a u.s. attorney for the better part of six months in the middle of a war, when he came home after a year in iraq and was diagnosed, like many, many coming home, with an aggressive and lethal cancer of the brain, we lost. we have some sense, like many of you do, what the families of these brave heroes are feeling today. you get this feeling like you are being sucked into a black hole in the middle of your chest . there's no way out. our heart aches for you. i know this. we have a continuing obligation, a sacred obligation, all of you,
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the families of those heroes. the obligation is not temporary, at last forever. -- it lasts forever. the lives lost today were lives even in the service of liberty, security, and others. in the service of america. like their fellow brothers and sisters in arms who died defending our vision and values in the struggle against terrorism, the fall in this day are part of a great and noble company of american heroes. to those who carried out this attack, as well as anyone who wishes america harm, no this, we will not forgive. we will not forget. we will hunt you down and make
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you pay. i'll defend our interests and our people with every measure at my command. over the past few weeks, i know many of you are tired of hearing me say it, we've been made aware by our intelligence community that the isis-k, an arch enemy of the taliban, people who were freed when both those prisons were opened, has been planning a complex set of attacks on united states personnel and others. this is why from the outset i have repeatedly said this mission was extraordinarily dangerous, and why i have been so determined to limit the duration of this mission. as general mckenzie said, that
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is the way this mission was designed to operate, operate under severe stress and attack. we have known that from the beginning. as i have been in constant contact with senior military leaders -- and i mean constant, round-the-clock -- and our commanders on the ground throughout the day, they made it clear that we can we must complete this mission, and we will. that is what i have ordered them to do. we will not be deterred by terrorists. we will not let them stop our mission. we will continue the evacuation. i also ordered my commanders to develop operational lands to strike isis-k assets, leadership, and facilities. we will respond with force and precision and our time, a place we choose any moment of our choosing. here is what you need to know. these isis terrorists will not win. we will rescue the americans.
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we will get our afghan allies. and our mission will go on. america will not be intimidated. and i have the utmost confidence in our brave service members who continue to execute this mission with courage and honor to save life again americans, our partners, our afghan allies out of afghanistan. every day when i talk to our commanders, i ask them what they need, they need if anything to get the job done. they will tilt you like-- as they will tell you, i granted that request. i your reiterated today on three occasions that they should take the maximum steps necessary to protect our forces on the ground in kabul. i want to thank the secretary of defense, the military leadership at the pentagon, and all the commanders in the field, where there has been complete unanimity on every commander on the objectives of this mission
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and the best way to achieve those objectives. those who have served through the ages and have drawn inspiration from the book of isaiah, whwen the lord says, "whom shall i send? who shall go for us?" the american military has been going for a long time "here i am, lord, send me. here i am, send me." each one of these men and women of the armed forces are the heirs of that sacrifice voluntary to go into harms way to risk everything, not for glory, not-for-profit, but to defend what we love and the people we love. i ask that you join me now in a moment of silence for all those in uniform and out. military and civilian, who have given the last full measure of devotion.
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thank you. may god bless you all, and may god protect the troops and all those standing watch for america. we have so much to do, within our capacity to do it. we just have to remain steadfast , steadfast, and complete our mission. we will continue after the troops have withdrawn to find means by which we can find any american who wishes to get out of afghanistan. we will find them and we will
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get them out. ladies and gentlemen, gave me a list here -- first person i was instructed to call was kelly o'donnell of nbc. reporter: you have said leaving afghanistan is in the national interest of the united states. after today's attack, do you believe we will authorize additional forces to respond to the attack inside afghanistan, and are you prepared to add additional forces to protect the americans who remain on the ground carrying out the evacuation operation? pres. biden: i've instructed the military, whatever they need, if they need additional force, i will grant it. but the military, from the chairman of the joint chiefs, commanders in the field, have all contacted me one way or another, usually by letter,
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saying they subscribe to the mission as designed. to get as many people out as we can within the timeframe that is allotted. that is the best way, they believed, to get as many americans out as possible. and with regard to finding, tracking down, the isis leader's s who have ordered this, we have some reason to believe we know who they are. not certain. and we will find ways of our choosing without large military operations to get them. wherever they are. trevor from reuters? reporter: thank you, mr. president. there has been some criticism even from people in your party about the dependence on the
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taliban to secure the perimeter of the airport. do you feel like there was a mistake made in that regard? pres. biden: no, i don't. look, i think general mckenzie handled this question very well. the fact is that we are in a situation -- we inherited a situation, particularly since, as we all know, the afghan military collapsed 11 days, or i n 11 days, that it is in the interest of, as mckenzie said, in the interest of the taliban that in fact isis-k does not metastasize beyond what it is, number one. number two, it's in their interest that we are able to
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leave on time, on target. as a consequence of that, the major things we have asked them, moving back to perimeter, giving more space between the wall, stopping vehicles from coming through, etc., searching people coming through, it is now -- not what you would call a tightly commanded, regimented operation, like the u.s. military is. they are acting in their interest. their interest. and so by and large, and i have asked the same question to military on the ground, whether or not it is useful exercise. no one trusts them. we are just counting on their
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self interest to continue to generate their activities. it's in their self interest that we leave when we said and that we get as many people out as we can. like i said, even in the midst of everything happening today, over 7000 people have gotten out, 5000 americans. so it's not a matter of trust, it is a matter of mutual self-interest. but there is no evidence thus far that i have been given as a consequence by any of our commanders in the field that there has been collusion between the taliban and isis in carrying out what happened today, both in front of the hotel and what is expected to continue, or beyond
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today. associated press? reporter: thank you, mr. president. you have spoken, again powerfully, of your own son and the weight of these decisions. with that in mind, and also what you said, that the longer we stay, the more likelihood there would be a major attack, how do you weigh staying one more day considering what has happened? pres. biden: i think what america says matters. what we say we are going to do in the context in which we say we are going to do it, that we do it, unless something exceptional changes. there are additional american citizens. there are additional green card holders.
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there are additional personnel of our allies. there are additional siv cardholders. there are additional afghans that have helped us. and there are additional groups of individuals who have contacted us, from women's groups to ngo's and others, who have expressly indicated they want to get out, and have gathered in certain circumstances in groups, on buses, and other means, that still presents the opportunity for the next several days between now and the 31st to be able to get them out. our military and i believe to the extent that we can do that
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knowing the threat, knowing that we may very well have another attack, the military has concluded that is what we should do. i think they are right. i think they are correct. and after that, we are going to be in a circumstance where there will be, i believe, numerous opportunities to continue to provide access or additional -- for additional persons to get out of afghanistan, either through means that we provide, and/or provided through cooperation with the taliban. you're not good guys, the tell-- they're not good guys, the taliban. i'm not suggesting that at all. they have a keen interest -- as
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many of you have been reporting, they would like to figure out how to keep the airport at the capacity to do it. they very much are trying to figure out whether or not they can maintain what is a portion of an economy that has become not robust, but fundamentally different than it had been. and so there is a lot of reasons why they have reached out, not just as, but to others, as to why you would be -- it would be continuing in their interest to get more of their personnel want to get out if we can locate them. now, there's not many left that we can assess that want to come out. there is some americans we have identified and contacted, the vast majority of them, not all of them, who don't want to leave. they are dual nationals, they have extended families, etc. there is others who are looking
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for the time. that is why we continue. i'll take a few more questions. yes, sir? reporter: i wanted to ask you -- you say that what america says matters. what do you say to the afghans who helped troops who may not be able to get out by august 31? pres. biden: we will continue to try to get you out. it matters. look, i know of no conflict, as a student of history, no conflict where when a war was ending, one side was able to guarantee that everyone they wanted to be extracted from that country would get out. think about it, folks. i know the american people get this in their gut.
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there are, i would argue, millions of afghani citizens who are not taliban, who did not actively cooperate with us as siv's, who have given a chance, they would be on board a plane tomorrow. it sounds ridiculous, but the vast majority of people in communities like that want to come to america, given the choice. so getting every single person out is -- can't be guaranteed of anybody because there is the determination of who wants to get out as well. anyway, it's a process. it was really pointing to you, sir. reporter: thank you, mr. president. there are reports that u.s. officials provided the taliban with names of americans and afghan officials to evacuate. are you aware of that?
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did that happen? and sir, did you personally reject a recommendation to hold or recapture bagram air force base? pres. biden: here is what i have done -- to answer the last question first, on the tactical questions on how to conduct an evacuation or a war, i gather up all the major military personnel that are in afghanistan, the commanders as well as the pentagon. i ask for their best military judgment, what would be the most efficient way to accomplish the mission. they concluded, the military, that bagram was not much value added. it was much wiser to focus on kabul. and so i followed that recommendation. with regard to -- there are
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certain circumstances where we'v e gotten information, and quite frankly, sometimes some of you saying you know of such and such a group of people are trying to get out, on a bus moving from other people. and this is their location. there have been occasions when our military has contacted their military counterparts, and the taliban have said, for example, this bus is coming through with x number of people on it made up of the following group of people. we want you to let that bus or group through. so yes, there have been occasions like that. and to the best of my knowledge, in those cases, the bulk of that has occurred, they have been let through. but i can't tell you with any certitude that there has been a
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list of names. i know there may have been, but i know of no circumstances. doesn't mean it doesn't exist, that hears the names of 12 people that are coming, let them through. could very well have happened. i will take one more question. wait wait wait, let me take one question from the most interesting guy i know in the press. that's you. reporter: mr. president, there have not been a u.s. service member killed in combat in afghanistan since february 2020. you set a deadline and pulled troops out and sent troops back in and now 12 marines are dead. you said the buck stops with you. do you bear any responsibility for the way things have unfolded in the last two weeks? pres. biden: i bear responsibility for fundamentally all that has happened of late. here is the deal -- you know
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-- i wish you one day would say these things -- you know as well as i do that former president made a deal with the taliban to get all american forces out of afghanistan by may 1. in return, the commitment was made -- that was the year before -- in return, he was given a commitment, the taliban would continue to attack others, but would not attack any american forces. remember that? i'm being serious. no, i'm asking you a question. no no, wait a minute, and asking you a question. is that accurate, to the best of your knowledge? [indiscernible] reporter: do you think people have an issue with pulling out of afghanistan with the way things have happened? pres. biden: i think they have an issue that people are likely
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to get hurt, some as we have seen have gotten killed, and that it is messy. the reason why, whether my friend will acknowledge it or has reported it, the reason why there are no attacks on americans, as you said, from the date until i came into office, was because the commitment was made by president trump, i will be out by may 1. in the meantime, you agree not to attack any americans. that was the deal. that is why no american was attacked. reporter: you stanley square by your decision to pull out? pres. biden: yes, i do. look at it this way -- i have another meeting, for real -- but imagine where we would be if i had indicated on may 1 i was not going to renegotiate an
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evacuation date, we were going to stay there. only one alternative, thousands of more trips back into afghanistan to fight a war that we had already won relative to the reason we went in the first place. i have never been of the view that we should be sacrificing american lives to try to establish a democratic government in afghanistan, a country that has never once in its entire history been a united country and is made up -- i don't mean this in a derogatory -- made up of different tribes who have never, ever ever gotten along with one another. as i said before -- this is the
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last, i will make -- we will have more chances to talk about this, unfortunately, beyond, because we are not out yet -- if osama bin laden as well as al qaeda had chosen to launch an attack when they left saudi arabia out of yemen, would we have ever gone to afghanistan? even though the taliban completely controlled afghanistan at the time, would we have ever gone? i know it's not fair to ask you questions -- this is rhetorical. raise your hand if you think we should have gone and given up thousands of lives and tens of thousands wounded. our interest in going was to prevent al qaeda from reemerging, first to get bin laden, take out al qaeda in
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afghanistan, prevent that from happening again. as i have set a hundred times, terrorism has metastasized throughout the world and we have greater that's coming from other countries and a heck of a lot those are to the united states-- closer to the united states. we don't have military encampments there. we have over-the-horizon capability. ladies and gentlemen, it was time to end a 20-year war. thank you so much. emily: president definitively saying he will --president biden definitively saying he will send additional forces to afghanistan if they are needed. the president saying the u.s. will not be deterred by terrorists, will not be intimidated, but that we will respond with force and precision in kind. he said, "we will hunt you down." i want to bring in the editor of "the longmore journal"
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and our correspondent annmarie hordern. underscore the significance of what the resident said. annmarie: an emotional speech but a tough one as well. his statement that we are outraged but part broken got to the tone of what he was trying to convey. he talked about his son beau and the weight of these decisions from a personal perspective, but also that we will hunt you down -- he was talking to what his intelligence committee assessed combat these explosions and terrorist attacks outside kabul airport were done by isis-k. we didn't hear anything in terms of the extension of the withdrawal date. it seems they are trying to get everyone out by august 31. emily: evacuations happening as we speak. the president saying we will find isis leader's wherever they are. there is no evidence they colluded with the taliban. does what the president said explain what we have seen it all
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from this exit and what is america's longest war, which is still going on? >> yes, look, his focus on isis-k -- the president has basically relied on a terrorist group that uses suicide tactics, the taliban, to protect american citizens in kabul, against another group that uses suicide tactics, islamic state. the president keeps saying that he is depending on the taliban to provide security, and then he says he doesn't trust them. this is madness. we shouldn't be surprised that something like this happened. it really was a matter of time. the entire situation was put into effect when -- with how the president decided to withdraw and how the withdrawal was implemented and how they refused to recognize the collapse of the afghan government, and using kabul as a chokepoint for 4.5 million people with an airport in the heart of the city. this was destined to happen.
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the president doesn't have an answer for all of that. he sticks with talking points like it's time to end the endless wars, but he ignores the fact that the taliban and al qaeda have a relationship which endorsed. we are literally relying on a terrorist group. emily: interview, -- in your view, is this war not going to end? bill: it is just a phase in the war. these ohmic state is a minor player in afghanistan--the islamic state is a minor player in afghanistan. the real problem is the taliban has a relationship -- we had the taliban spokesman tell us that osama bin laden didn't conduct 9/11. this is what we're dealing with with the taliban. emily: all right, much more to continue to follow. bill roggio, our annmarie hordern at the white house, continuing to give us posted on what of element as they unfold. stay with bloomberg television. i'm emily chang in san
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francisco. that is all for now. this is bloomberg. ♪
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