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have a great weekend, everybody. "street signs" begins right now. welcome to a special edition of "street signs". courtney reagan. money, power and spending. julie on media and the entertainment industry and john on tech trends and innovation. first a big story. blackberry reporting its fourth quarter earnings. the ceo joining us live just minutes away.
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>> good news for us. the stock is a little higher. they had a decent blackberry 10 launch. the bad news, though. can they raise the device price fast enough? >> that's really significant. i'm surprised that it didn't hit the stock more. maybe it was an expectations game. >> profits were up. they got a fix for those subscribers. they have got to stop reporting subscribers the same way. >> it's hard to overlook the subscriber fall out. >> if they go well over a million, i was using that as a mark. $3 million, that was a big miss. >> who are the subscribers that
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they missed? corporate? individuals? a mix of both? who is it. that would also be very interesting. >> we do know it's a mix of both. what the subscribers are, they got blackberries a while ago and churned off the platform. while they're bringing some people in the door. >> who are the new subscribers. who are the new users? are they new subscribers? i was surprised to see that they were bringing over from other services but where are they coming from? are they iphone users who decide i want to go for the new blackberry? i find that hard to believe. >> back in time. >> one of the key questions we will ask the ceo who will join us again in just a matter of minutes. how do you sustain that at a time that your subscribers are leaving. is there a number that would spook the guy beyond believe? they lost three? what happens if they lost five?
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what would really make a difference there? >> and also they talked about how the marketing costs are going to have to increase 50%. that's significant. do you think that will be enough? >> 50%. they telegraphed that before. they need to spend on marketing to let people know how this is different from everything else that is out there. that is one of the criticisms. in the store the sales people don't really know. they will steer you towards a samsung or apple. they don't want that. >> do they even still go after the united states and europe? what about the emerging countries? they're really popular there? >> they are all good questions and ones that we will be sure to ask the ceo. we will slide in a quick break. we understand that mr. heinz is getting into the chir right nch right now.
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assessment really is. based on the volumes that you see, we are capable as a company to deliver profits to the shareholders and i think this is an exciting point for us. >> how long can you continue to sustain problems when subscribers are falling off so sharply? >> we have designed it in a way that its cost structure going forward is a very competitive cost structure. we're not talking about a one-time effect. we have established an efficient engine in blackberry that allows us going forward on the volumes that you will be seeing to be profitable in the future. we will be investing in q1 and marketing.
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>> you have been able to manage the balance sheet very well. is he wrong? >> we have always had a -- or with increased demand. we can certainly do this. now's the time to go out and sell blackberry 10 and run it into the markets. it's hard to ignore the 3 million subscribers leaving. who's to say that it's not going to continue to get worse? what's a number that would really scare you? >> the decline in the subscriber numbers really associated to the former blackberry os system. we expect this to gradually
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continue with single digit probably in the next quarter. we talked about this before. what we are really working on and looking at is new services based on blackberry 10 and then we will look at the monetary volume rather than subscriber numbers. it's a mix of prepaid and postpaid subscribers. you have got to look at the revenue first based on applications and services. that's what we're going to turn out in the future. >> when your brand is losing relevance to the iphone and android and certainly sam sung. given you have strength in indonesia. are we looking at the story wrong? >> there's no doubt about this. this brand shows that through the times through the last 12
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months where we were basically on blackberry 7 products, there was a huge loyal base working with us and that loyal base is out there. we have a strong brand. we have a clear position for blackberry, different than others. >> i am sure there are some looking at you agreeing that you have a smart brand. maybe an amazon or microsoft. who knows what other companies are looking at you as a starthr. appeared to have at least a little bit cleaned up your balance sheet. >> it is very telling that we have managed to go through the last year. we have created a whole new platform that obviously is attractive. the platform itself, so is the product.
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so i mean that we're being watched by other companies and you know that this is something people look at as natural. we have created something really new and fantastic and we're proud of it. >> are you telling me you have had some interest? >> i'm seeing a lot of interest in the blackberry 10 platform and product. i'm not going to comment on any companies talking to us. that is not part of this session. this is something that i would have to do with the board first. >> what do you make of the fact that you have got some of your customers are clearly leaving and investors have given up on you. lately the stock has traded a little better than it has in the past. how do you reverse that and what do you make of it? the fact that there are so many people out there from an investor's standpoint who seem to betting against you. >> the simple answer to that
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question is you have to perform. you have to deliver against what you say and do. i think we did this in the past year. i think we're doing this with the blackberry ten launch. we just have launched one product for a few weeks. we are just ranting. offering a roll out. and from that perspective, we are on a very good path. >> you recently took a shot at apple which certainly raised a lot of eyebrows. you said the iphone was starting to look a little dusty, seeming to question the rate of innovation, which is fair to say on the street. some people would say that it's ironic that the ceo of blackberry is questioning apples innovation. >> that comment was related to the u.s.er interface that we took to a whole new level on blackberry 10. we went through a phase of being static ourselves.
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that's why we made the decision to develop blackberry 10. it is really related to the user interface. we have created something that people are going to latch on to it. >> i have gotten a bunch of questions about that. i want to understand exactly what it is that you meant by that. is that the right at which you're seeing a sell through at this point. >> right now what we see is whatever we ship into the market sells through pretty quickly. there is a logistic time.
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and then get it into the hands of consumers. it's natural to have a certain number of products. that's nothing new to all of us in this industry. what is encouraging is the number of south rules that we see. and it is also the number of customers, users coming from other platforms latching on to blackberry 10. this is very encouraging. >> what can you tell us about this? i have got a couple colleagues that want z 10 but we don't have the most recent version of blackberry enterprise server. what can you tell us about getting ready to get the phones in? >> 10 is rolling out as we speak. we worked with a lot of enterprises. we did blackberry 10 ready
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program. we're in the middle of rolling this out. the uptick from those is pretty good. we did it in 17 cities worldwide. we are on track of getting it into the hands of our customers pretty soon. certainly coming to a head today. why did you launch the non--keyboard version first? someone said that i read today in one of the articles it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know who blackberry's core audience are, and that is people who want the keyboard. >> i read the rocket science article. i'm a physicist so i know rocket science as well. there's a reason for this. two major reasons. we were losing an enterprise to a bring your own device.
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those devices are full touch devices. second, technology. we have built a fantastic virtual key pad. the decision was to get this out into the market first, test it and then the q 10 would follow suit. i think it's working. >> thank you so much for coming on today. >> thank you very much for having me. >> thurston heins is the blackberry ceo. >> he said this is not a turn-around company. i thought the guy was off his rocker. that was our first conversation. since then he has changed his tune. who knows if these things are going to sell through. i certainly have my doubts, but he seems to be living on planet earth. >> i was really surprised by his comment that he doesn't care as much about the pure subscriber
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microsoft ceo steve fulmer owns a house in the area. speaking of houses, you want to react to the landslide thing? >> my heart bleeds, you know? >> i know. >> come on, when you see houses going off a cliff -- >> you have to think that, a, they have insurance. but, b, you have to think that that's a ris physical you're located there. >> and you look at malibu and all these other places where there are the constant disasters. you are taking a risk with that kind of location. >> with malibu, this example you are certainly not the first time affluent people live in a danger zone. malibu has fires almost every year and oftentimes big celebrities and media moguls, houses get -- >> you want to live some place dangerous, i know some places in the hood, they could move right in. i'm just sayin'. >> speaking of houses, look at the pricetag on steve cohen's latest purchase. these are big numbers. >> yes. speaking of hoods this is the hood right here.
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it's called further lane. and all these guys are trying to go further with wealth and their careers. he just bought a place for $60 million. it's 10,000 square feet. right on the water. he didn't even look at the house when it came on the market. he just bought it. he had an $18 million house just down the road. he didn't have direct access to the beach. the important thing is the context. he's in -- he and sac are the cross hairs of the government investigations. they just paid a fine of $616 million to settle the civil side of this stuff. so basically with this purchase and la reve, that $155 million painting he just bought, basically he is saying to everyone, i'm not worried. it's fine. and, look, he's a trader. >> he's doing what he does. he's one of the biggest art collectors in the worldme so he adds la reve. so he's buying real estate. >> these are two huge ticket items right during the same
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period of time. i don't know that -- he may have just been opportunistic about both. to me, it's a -- >> you think it is optics? >> i think it's optics. you know the minds of traders. he's a great poker player. poker players, it's about confidence, not showing weakness. this is him telling the traders, his employees, i had counter parties, his investors i'm not worried. there is not a problem here. i got so much money. i'm still investing in my future. you should invest with me, too. >> it seems really smart. if he's worth $10 billion, he can afford this. this sends a message. i don't think it's coincidence. >> you're an expert in this. when i want to make a statement, i buy a nice lunch. like i don't buy a car even to make a statement. how much spending money, just pocket change toss around do you have if you have $10 billion? >> there is a reader who said, you know, if i feel bad about something, you buy a chocolate cake, right? and you eat it, right? this is his kind of a present for himself. both of these items. and, look, you know in, the grand scheme of his wealth, it's
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not a lot of money. but it's a big statement. this is one of the most expensive paintings ever sold. one of the most expensive homes ever sold in the hamptons and they're both at the same time. >> it's virtual drop in the bucket or a drop in the bucket, right? what's his worth? >> it's estimated to be around $10 billion. it's a message to the government, you have not hurt me. you have not hurt me. i think that's a big signal as well. >> yet. >> yet. exactly. and the judge today -- this is very important. the judge today saying that settlement which says that sec did not deny or admitted any wrongdoing, the judge saying that doesn't make sense. so that settlement could be in jeopardy. >> okay. coming up on "street signs," walmart shoppers, there's a plan to get you discount for neighbor's goods. next, "game of thrones" returns this weekend but so do some very popular zom bees. the battle for your eyeballs is next.
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i'm josh lipton. the price of corn falling hard today. here's why. farmers intend to plant some 97 million acres of corn this year. that is the most since 1936. record corn acreage is expected in many states. corn down some 4.5%. scott, back to you. >> thanks so much. welcome back to this special edition of "street signs" on this final day of the first quarter. final day of the week as well. it's a battle for your eyeballs this week between "game of thrones" and "walking dead." and walmart shoppers, you may never have to leave your chair again. michelle? there is a pretty calm day for the bank's reopening. we did see a lot of people who
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were very, very tense. they didn't have an atm card and had to live without cash. for the most part most of the day was very calm. lines could be seen but that is because they were only serving one or two customers at a time and made people wait outside. first time banks were open in two weeks. for a lot of people it was a relief to see the process beginning for the banks. in the meantime there has been a new development here which could lead to a possible political crisis for cyprus and could impair the economic functioning of the country. the arch bishop of the greek orthodox church who many argue the most powerful man in the country, the biggest landowner and developer here. he approached the supreme court to get an injunction to prevent his shares in the bank of cyprus from being written down to zero.
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the supreme court ruled in his favor. it's not atypical for shareholders to sue in situations like this. however, he's the most important man in cyprus and it's causing a lot of consternation within the government about what's to be done. it could slow up the finalization of the deal. so, there is something to be decided here. we're waiting to see how this plays out. once again the arch bishop who has played a role throughout the whole process is offering to put up land, trying to save the country. we're going to have to see how this plays out. back to you. >> michelle, thank you so much. tonight we have a new record on our hands if the s&p holds here it will close at a new all-time high. let's get down to bob. 90 minutes of trade here? >> so far they're holding up. 15.65. what a great way to end the
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quarter. doesn't get much better than this. put off the major sectors. when you see this is on the quarter. when you see defensive names up the same amount as more cyclical names like financials and energy, everything amid single dijd digits. as for the major indexes across the board it's been a terrific month. but we're being led by the transportation stocks and by small caps and mid caps. just look how broad they are here. basically everything is moving to the upside. how about the global markets? it's true. the s&p 500 is up 9%. only in japan in the midst of yen deflationnary mania is up more, up 18%. the rest of the world, most of the markets look like this.
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still holding on to the record close. >> it's been a big quarter for media stocks. what can we expect in q2? >> they are called big trends to watch. the beginning of the summer movie season. sequels and familiar titles will dominate starting this weekend with g.i. joe retaliation and we will see iron man iii. but the real drama is on the small screen as cable channels and carriers battle it out with netflix, amazon and other digital giants. those companies are doubling down on content. even microsoft will spend millions of dollars for shows for its x box network.
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cable giants are featuring their expensive shows and giving viewers more ways to watch the shows on demand. it all kicks off when "game of thrones" kicks off and goes head to head with "walking dead". >> that's right and we will find out who is going to the final four this weekend. >> when it comes to watching live television, sports wins. that's why the sports rights are so expensive. the great thing about the new shows this weekend is because so many people use dvr, you don't have to pick. you can record both of them and watch "walking dead" and the next day watch "game of thrones". >> when is all of this going to blow up? everybody can't win in the content game. this stuff is expensive. there will be some bad bets. somebody's going to take a blow and how long are we going to
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have to wait? >> the real winners are consumers. but who loses. >> there is always a dud out there. >> the content companies are getting paid by everybody. i do think that we will see some of the players drop out. we will see what happens with coin star and red box. i think with amazon, the fact that they can pour money in, they don't really care if they lose money. amazon may lose money on this but it's okay. >> coming up, a neighbor shows up at the door with your newly purchased lingerie? one big retailer plans to offer discounts for delivering. carfirmation.
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>> here are some of the best cities to return in in no particular order. of course with all the theme walter parks, a great place for the grandkids to visit, too. check out retirement.cnbc.com for more on how you can spend your golden years. >> coming up on "closing bell," we are on s&p 500 record watch. are you better off investing in the dow's best reformer this year, hewlitt packard? or the worst. getting set for a big
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correction. but yet we have the names of three stocks set to sore. we will get to that plus the ceo of ebay. sue and i look forward to seeing you at the top of the hour. >> sounds like an april fool's joke. delivery time cut down to next to nothing. it might make it easier for your neighbors to peek into your personal life. >> it's just an idea at this point but it's an idea that everybody is talking about. the giant is considering a plan to have customers deliver packages to other online shoppers. so how it would work is shoppers sign up for walmart's program. and they would tell them where they live so walmart would have to coordinate to drop off items on their route home.
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walmart would offer a discount covering the cost of gas. it was just a casual idea and a mention of what could possibly happen in the future. there is a lot of issues to be worked out, not the least of which, privacy. >> i don't understand how it would work but you have all these start-ups that do this. >> it's logistically possible. >> it's possible. >> i don't necessarily want walmart shoppers knowing where i live. certain stores -- >> bloomingdales would be okay. >> what if i don't know this person? >> the chances are that you wouldn't know. they're going to send a text to a random person. by the way, marge ordered a dvd. >> they're thinking outside the box. way outside. >> and this addresses the fundamental issue. isn't the challenge now --
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walmart held a very small event with reporters. and we asked them how is the same day delivery test going? and they basically down played it. it's going. we have had thousands of lists but on the priority list it's not up there. >> we have mentioned before. x percent of the population lives within two or three walmart. >> it's expensive. the stores can be fulfillment centers and that's the advantage they have over amazon. they can get it to your store but then getting it to your house. >> this shows how desperate retailers are to compete against amazon. >> if i have a house guest and i need to buy a new air mattress but i need it today, i have to go to walmart. almost everything else -- >> have you heard about the store in australia that is
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charging a $5 fee? >> a browsing fee. >> they are worried about showrooming. i feel like $5 to walk into a store would backfire. >> then i saw what kind of a store it is. it's a grocery store. and the what do you call it? the fulfillment rate, whatever? you don't go to the grocery store unless you're buying something. if they're getting showroomed? >> who showrooms at a grocery store? >> they are like a glue ten-free? >> like get the names of the products and go online and order them? >> stores have become museums. have a suggested do nation, come to best buy, look around and buy online. >> i was just in rome and there was a whole street of these very high end shops. the channel store had a line
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down the street. they were walking out with bags. >> we have got to get to the big data download. it's going to be a big quarter for jc penney. >> in the new home store it launches in may. they have got to get this going. >> tell us about big data. >> we have got this new great show. it's a partnership with yahoo!. we are on twice a day and we all talk about big data. that's 27 and 15 zeros. we hope to be there. >> health care, cancer. it's amazing. >> let's send it over to josh for a market flash. >> check out blackberry, which is in green.
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of course, blackberry before the bell posted the surprise profit. you see the street now reacting. the analysts rate blackberry a buy. they increased their price target to 22 from 1950. blackberry up just about 2% right now. scott? >> thanks so much. up next, would you trust the irs to do your taxes for you? one company says don't. the tax debate is just ahead. >> opportunity usa. across the country, innovation is sparking start-ups. not just in silicon valley. surprising cities have seen a boom in high growth firms. where are the unlikely hot spots? we'll tell you next. ♪ ♪ here we are, me and you ♪ on the road ♪ and we know that it goes on and on ♪
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>> these cities all landed in the top 20 start-up hot spots. >> would you trust the government to completely take care of your taxes? could save millions of americans time and money spent on accountants and software. but big tax preparers don't want that to happen. they spent millions lobbying against return-free filing. frank? >> most people file the easy form anyway. the government has so much data on every taxpayer now they can coordinate whether your data matches their data so they will catch you if you're trying to do something you shouldn't. you have a choice. you could do it this way and let the government do it or you can file it yourself. i think there is nothing wrong with giving people that choice. >> do you think the wealthy people you follow would be into this? >> these are the guys, the wealthy guys have accountants and have complex returns.
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this is not for them. this is for the 75% or more of americans who do file the easy form. >> if you were guaranteed that you had only a much smaller chance of being audited, would it encourage people this? >> yes and if it saves you money from paying for all these tax filing systems, and if the government says, we're not going to audit you, it gives people peace of mind. >> this has been in the works for a while. the didn't president reagan advocate for this? if this has been an idea for so long, how come it didn't really come to fruition? >> the lobby's very strong. >> if i were into it, i would -- >> grover norquist, mr. no taxes. >> more than $100 million by one company to lobby against this. a huge amount of money going to washington. let's move on to a happier topic. as tax season begins to draw to a close, baseball season officially starts on monday. brian shactman's here with a look at this year's baseball by the numbers. shakt?
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>> we always talk about skyrockets salaries. but this year there's all these statistical anomalies about a salaries. the houston astro's cost cutting is projected to be about $25 million. now, there are obviously some players in baseball that make more than -- >> their total payroll? >> yes. >> but here's the key. so you already have a-rod and santana of the mets making more than that, cliff lee, the same, but if you look at the money they're paying just the players on the field, they're playing rodriguez $29 million, he's on the pittsburgh pirates, it's actually $20 million or more, there's two dozen players who make more than the entire team. that is just unbelievable. the second thing i want to point out, the new york yankees. i know there's a lot of yankees fans. if you take all the players that are hurt on the yankees and total up their salaries, a-rod, $29 million, mark teixeira, $22.5 million, derek jeter, $17
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million, curtis granderson, $15 million, that would be $90 million. >> and houston probably thinks they can be competitive, right? they look at the billy bean, the saber metrics and everything that's been used over the years to try to have smaller salaries, but still a competitive team on the field. >> it's still half of what the oakland as are. i don't know how competitive you can be, but you can still be profitable. you can basically start in park in baseball and make a profit. that's kind of the problem. baseball says they trust it and that they're going to rebuild and spend more once they get better players, they just sort of clear the deck. it's scary you could do this and still make money. how offensive is that to your fans? >> how about julie? julie, you're from l.a., right? dodgers, what did they sell for? >> from $95 million to $213. you talk about all these numbers in baseball, the disparity is just huge. >> it's also interesting that baseball is such a great analogy to the rest of the salary
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structure of our company. people would look at a professional baseball player and say, well, they make so much. but they're looking at, you know, derek jeter, a-rod, all these guys making so much more, and the inequality within the wealthy, within baseball players is where the real gaps are. and i think that's so interesting. you see it among millionaires, billionaires as well as baseball, that gap between the very top earners and the folks who are just really good. >> occupy yankee stadium. >> mark is making basically the league minimum. he makes basically what pujols makes in a week, is what mike trout -- >> i don't think he's very happy about that. >> one person who isn't is his agent. >> that's for sure. those fees get pretty good. from cheeseburgers to chocolate, some people think bacon can make anything taste better, but mouth wash? that's next on "street signs." my mother made the best toffee in the world.
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arrival. with hertz gold plus rewards, you skip the counters, the lines, and the paperwork. zap. it's our fastest and easiest way to get you into your car. it's just another way you'll be traveling at the speed of hertz. all right. the final hour of trade is almost upon us. take a look. a lot of red on the board today for the s&p. we are, right now, above the s&p's all-time closing high of 1565 and change. that's the key number to watch over the next hour, which will, obviously, be focused on the closing bell. well, if it sounds too good to be true, it is. and bacon mouth wash sounds too good to be true. our resident bacon correspondent, jane wells, what's this all about? >> scott, you know i love
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everything bacony, so i thought i'd died and gone to pig heaven when i heard about this. >> scope bacon, for breath that sizzles. >> it is bacon flavored mouthwash from scope. or is it?! being the hard-nosed investigative journalist i am, i checked with scope's parent, procter & gamble and said, is this real? and after a long pause, they said, i don't really know. i asked, is this an early april fool's joke? i was met with coyness and said, check next week. i no longer smell bacon scope, i smell a prank. >> it smells so disgusting. >> oh, it sounds beautiful, julia! >> jane, no matter how much you like eating bacon, would you like your breath to smell like it? >> what's wrong with the smell of bacon, whether it's coming in your nose or out of your mouth?
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>> jane, didn't you have bacon ice cream one time? >> i've had the bacon sundae. that was not good. i had the bacon shake. that was worse. but the bacon taco, the baco, it's awesome. >> some could say jane's breath already smells like bacon. >> she would know. >> jane, i drank the bacon milk shake there too, and the real problem was it was the fake bacon chemical taste. and i think that's what would happen with the mouthwash and i think it would be a fake bacon taste and that's disgusting. >> yes, scope was allegedly saying, if this is real, it would not be real bacon. no pigs would be hurt in the making of the mouthwash, which means vegans could appreciate it too. >> jane, i think you should start a kick starter campaign to fund a real bacon mouthwash. >> robert frank is curiously silent. >> you know, the only thing
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worse than bacon mouthwash is fake bacon mouthwash. i'm sticking to mint. that's all i can say. >> jane, there's only one person who could have got than story and done it any kind of justice. you know, you know that? >> thank you, yes, i'm on it. a friend suggested he'd like some beer-flavored mouthwash. i said, i already have it. it's called beer. >> all right. have a great weekend, jane. we'll see you soon. >> you too. let's take a quick look at the market here. the s&p 500 right now is a couple points ahead of its all-time closing high. the number you want to watch as we head into the last hour of trade here is 1565. it's been a heck of a quarter for the s&p, up 10%. would you believe it, though, that health care and some of the more traditionally defensive sectors have been the ones that have led this rally. all of this on the table. you've got cyprus in front of us, market doesn't seem to care. earnings, right in front of us, market doesn't seem to care. right now, focused on the all-time closing high. the intra-day high is like 1576 and change. we still have a little bit of work to do there. but nonetheless, ys
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