tv Power Lunch CNBC April 11, 2013 1:00pm-2:00pm EDT
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>> i think they're going to be. >> wells fargo going into things tomorrow. >> lcc, u.s. airways. >> power lunch starts right now. >> halftime is over. the second half of the trading day starts right now. >> 3-1 advancing to declining stocks. >> questions and concerns remain. can this economy sustain the rally? plus two ceos with big issues on their hands. the ceo of sanofi is here as he tries to fight a bird flu outbreak. and the ceo of first solar. how viable is the industry and the stock.
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lots of questions and lots of answers. today on power lunch. >> and we are walking on sunshine here every day on power lunch. how high can the market go. how high is the sky? we are closing in on dow 1500. always walking on sunshine, michelle? >> let's get the trading action here. bob joins us on the floor of the new york stock exchange. a third of the dow 30. that would be ten, hitting new all time highs. >> she does math for me. >> that's a point. the important thing is the threat of the rally. when you see all of the names, so health care and consumer
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staples are all up just like material stocks are up. that's a broad rally. that's a broad advance. >> we had a big report out of ibc. bc sales declining faster than expected. more importantly, smart phone and tablet sales are cannibalizing pc sales. i think this was a very bold call on their part. but i thought this piece was very well thought out. you don't see devices to find location or anything like that doing well any more.
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also back with us, of course. back to the studio. big question. can the economy sustain this rally? what do you think? >> i don't think the economy is anywhere good enough for what the market is telling you at all. i think it's way, way, way ahead. >> steve wants to jump in here. >> i want to show you a chart that is right in line with what you're thauking about. >> you need know introduction. >> stocks and job growth. at first i want to show you the long term chart. it didn't matter. okay? it didn't matter.
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>> the market could be anticipating this and be right where the economy is going to be. >> i am going to pause here and bring in your friend and sometime debating partner with breaking news. >> we just auctioned off 13 billion 29 year ten month that was originally auctioned in february. the yield? 2.998. and 2.49, a bid to cover that's
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light compared to a 2.59 average. dealers took 49.3 c-minus. they didn't get it. they had to scale back in the dutch auction. not as pretty as i would have suspected. back to you. >> bob, you just saw steve talking about, comparing the s&p versus job growth. earnings so far are going be okay. and the market saying that the fed is going to keep his foot on
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the floor. >> michelle said we want to be true. but when i look at that chart it's a better fit when jobs lead stocks by almost four months. that would mean we get top line growth that would finally free us. >> that goes right to the point, steve, of the role that the fed and the stimulus programs claim. >> i want to bring up another data point. showing that in february, corporate executives sold off. how nervous should we be that so many executives. >> they are not stupid. they ought to be selling. >> if they thought they would be going higher, they would hold on
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to them. >> they are also not 100% of their holdings. if the stock goes higher they still participate. >> and they get more stock all the time. now it's maybe not such a bad time because the prices are higher again. >> there is no evidence that these guys are any better at picking the market, the timing of the market than anybody else. they tend to do share buy backs when stocks are high. it is the -- >> we're going to leave it there. one of the big stories today is one that bob mentioned a moment ago. pc stocks taking a significant hit. the wind tell architecture there right in the not so sweet spot of this sell off. the research firm reported a
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worldwi worldwide. >> that 14% drop in worldwide pc shipments that you just mentioned marks the fourth consecutive quarter as more consumers shift to smart phones and tablets. it's the worst quarter since they began trading back in 1994. what's more? it's clear that the windows 8 launch failed to provide a positive boost but appears to have slowed the market. goldman sachs downgrading microsoft shares in today's trade. who is still owning the space? hp remains the number one vendor. dell in second place and apple in third. keep in mind pcs do make up a significant portion of their total revenue and apple has been
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able to social the losses associated with the pc business with smart phone and tablets. so overall, not a great day for tech. i'm going to come back with some of today's other business movers over here. >> we will talk to you when we see you next time. >> a mixed bag to share with you. costco and t.j. max reporting. apparently chilled shopper's enthusiasm. >> and re-establishing the home
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affordable refinance program from two years to the end of december 2015. there you see the mortgage makers higher. walter investment up nearly 10%. >> leaving the hamburger for the catsup. he is going to become the ceo of heinz. >> first quarter sales fell more than wall street expected. burger king approving a 20% increase in dividend and a buy back of its stock. let's take a look at burger king shares. up 3.5% at $19.12. michelle? >> next, a stock that's up nearly 50% on heavy volume. jane wells will be live. life has taken a turn. >> we are expecting, michelle, a major development today in the
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as a result, it will not need to conduct an additional trial as it had originally planned. >>my to that insider trading scandal now. >> today, london, was caught in an fbi sting allegedly passing inside information. two friends, there were an la times report that a sting happened. you know, his linked in profile actually still lists him as working for kp and g.
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who was he meeting with? who was that friend? according to brian shaw, it was him. brian shaw who owns a jewelry store inside this building in the heart of the valley. the security guard telling us they will be gone until monday. he was concerned that his friend's jewelry business was hurting. >> his life is ruined. he has lost his career. he may have to do some jail time. that's the best case scenario. it's a very grim reminder of anyone who wants to leak insider information. >> all right. now that friend, i just spoke with his attorney on the phone.
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shaw says he received non-public information. he then profited for. and he said i cannot begin to apologize for my incredibly stupid actions. shaw says he has been cooperating with the feds for months. we have only heard of herbalife and sketchers. la prosecutors hope to file charges against him today. >> thank you very much.
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>> all of these records may be getting a little repetitive but they're enjoyable if you're in the market. >> just this we'll, delphi rescheduled its investor day. they moved it to september 26. today kfc said sales would be hit because of the bird flu scare and shares apparent today are higher by 23 cents. authorities there say they have seen no signs however that sor far it cannot be passed from
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human to human. thus far only from bird to human. in some parts of china, people are wearing masks just in case. we're pleased to with us with the chief executive officer of sanofi. one of your biggest products is flu vaccine. what can you tell us about the situation in china? is this at risk of becoming some uncontrollable pandemic over there? >> i think it's premature to get too worried at this stage. we're certainly looking at it.
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>> quite literally, they said nothing to see here. move along. and it was disastrous. completely disastrous. do you agree they are handling it much better this time around? >> you have to answer. china has made huge progress in all of its public health and health care systems. they are investing significantly in this. i think the whole health care authorities are much better placed to evaluate this. and of course we have had a few
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of these scares before so people know where to look on these things and are trying to isolate this. the fact that they are restricting poultry sales is a good sign. >> each yore over the next five years you're working with the university there to develop a universal flu vaccines. that means you wouldn't have to create a new vaccine for every strain? how long will this take and how much money would that bring to the company? >> well, this is very early stage. you're exactly right. right now the issue is that the flu virus that comes along every year is not exactly the same. there have been traditionally three strains in a flu shot. and we normally change one or two per year. this year our manufacturing colleagues have introduced a four strain process.
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about average i don't think that necessarily is a bad thing. a lot of people are saying gee, now that we're at new highs, why aren't we getting more investment enthusiasm? a lot of people are concerned about that. remember, the very simple rule here. that's the definition of a broad market rally. everything is sort of advancing at this point. here is some of the pc makers that are weak. the refiners as well are on the weak side. finally the call of the day. barclays call downgrading but it's not dramatically killing the sectors. >> it's got to be related to the
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decline in pc sales, no? >> the decline is hurting these computing chip companies. >> thank you, bop. >> let's get you a check on oil at this juncture. this is brent. this is the big london trade which is here in the united states. right now sharon epperson is tracking the action. >> gold is getting a bit of a lift. we are continuing to watch. out today. talking about the fact that they believe gold will hold around the 1500 level on the gold
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market. in terms of elsewhere in the metal space we're looking at higher prices across the board. michelle, back to you. >> all righty. let's head to the nasdaq now. first, reacting to the data on the sector, remember some of these companies that are used in the pc space. a slower growth profile in semis. interestingly enough, take a look. >> thank you so much.
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tracking the bond action at the cme. at that last auction you gave it a c minus. what has been the overall impact. could it be that people are buying stocks instead of bonds? >> i think there is definitely some of that going on. i thought that sam yesterday and many of the discussions about sam today really missed the point. yes, you almost have to whether you like it or not is a sue per flus issue. a lot of times after $66 billion in supply you see a little bit of rally. not a great week for supply. now let's switch gears a bit. if you look at the euro currency you can clearly see that it's moving higher.
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federal conspiracy. information that he allegedly traded to his friend. he would sometimes disclose confidential information gave london tens of thousands of dollars in cash. typically arranging for him to meet on a side street in order to give him bags containing $100 bills wrapped in 10,000 $bundles. worth an estimated $12,000 as well as jewelry and concert tickets. based on .
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>> the share from the illegal profits from trades about decker's february 2013 earnings announcement. there is a lot more about the information. one more thing about herbalife. scott london said that none of his information had anything to do with heralife, he told and it's recorded on the phone that london learned that herbalife is going to go private. you just start buying in small blacks so it doesn't draw attention. then it doesn't look unusual at all. apparently it did look unusual.
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>> zuckerberg saying we have a strange immigration policy for a nation of immigrants and it's a policy unfit for today's world. we need a new approach including comprehensive immigration reform with effective border security that allows a path to citizenship that let's us attract the hardest working people, no matter where they were born. we invited mr. zuckerberg to join us but the company said there are no additional comments and the op ed speaks for itself. >> a lot riding on the whole immigration debate. that's why zuckerberg wrote this op ed.
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>> who said, obviously, there are not enough u.s. citizens for the jobs they had to fill. take a listen. >> on our website, we have job openings for more than 800 engineers that people can go and apply for. we want them to, if they're qualified for these jobs. we can't find enough workers. so we really need to fill that gap and having a working immigration system is an important part of that. >> that's a big part of what mark zukerberg was writing about today. take a look at san jose state
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university. a lot of couples just won't take them if they are not citizens even though they are well educated and have good grades. >> it's not controversial here but everybody knows here the execs included that's going to be hard to get things done. >> julia joins us from los angeles as well. weigh in. this is not a new industry for technology. back in 2008, bill gates testified in front of congress about this very same issue. the tech sector has long been frustrated about the ability to get the talent they need for the united states. >> i hear about this all the
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time when i'm talking to start-ups and he also feels like it needs to be fixed both for facebook and for the industry as a whole. and i think it's really key to notice that there are people from both sides of the aisle coming together to make a difference. >> yahoo! google, ebay, sun mike systems. john? all of them have immigrants as their founders. maybe google would not have been founded had they not made it here. >> that's not counting companies like linked in. the ceo now, there has been a
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big change. it is absolutely kind of a heart issue for a lot of entrepreneurs here. the last generation of silicon valley leaders? we didn't see this. >> even though mark zuckerberg is going to benefit from this and facebook is going to benefit from this but i wouldn't be too cynical here. he wanted facebook to be a social utility and i think he wants to use his money and power to make a difference.
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>> the games seem to be slipping away a little bit here. nasdaq is now on the douw, urba outfitters and first solar. >> that was an interesting conversation we had with him. he thinks and i wasn't surprised when he said he can be profitable even without government subsidies. interesting show. michelle, great to be with you as always. >> we can hold this rally all the way to a
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