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to it, and etem and steckel. lashoff, works three. and around the board, that will change, and etem trying to step out of traffic, could not. played by smith at nice fore-check. >> eddie: presenting emerson etem to get to the puck. >> rick: held up by franzen, couldn't get in on the fore check, pass out for cleary. and dives to try to get it ahead and franzen, leading it in for filppula, and perry, made a great defensive play. beleskey couldn't handle the pass. and heading to the corner. and beleskey trying to march to the front. down he goes, and wings have it.
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and beleskey, one of the guys who is really put in the extra effort at both ends of the ice. cogliano, swings good. double-teams, much better than by zetterberg. lead pass, and coming late, down the board, johan franzen to zetterberg. franzen, zetterberg, and pass from the point. the drive, and datsyuk, to the rebound. and gets away by cogliano. quincey gets to it. and to the anaheim defense. pass cut off by andersson. away comes lovejoy, and chopped
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away to zetterbergç by samuelsson. pass ahead by robby ryan, down he goes, puck retrieved by etem, gets it to the corner, steckel, fights off the check. kindl defending. puck left in the corner. kindl, first one in there after it, hit by ryan. kindl to patrick eaves. to emmerton. and shoots it, straight away. puck, as eves a eaves and etem together. >> eddie: any time have you a lane to get the puck to the net, just fire it right there.
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corey elm ve cory emmerton, patrick eaves going hard to the net. what a great play from corey perry. and stick on top. without filppula, looked like he had it, but the strength of perry tonight. >> rick: filppula, wins it, shot just wide. deflected wide by ericsson, shoots into the crowd. stopped on çbeauchemin. >> eddie: didn't miss by much. >> rick: pass intercepted by kronwall. 12:15 to go in the first overtime. tied 2-2. kronwall, walked by beleskey. over to jonathan ericsson. tips it in the zone by franzen, leaving it there for francauis
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beauchemin. they will hang onto it. >> eddie: face-off, you dictate what is going to happen. quick face-off win for filppula, kronwall to ericsson, and the puck passed the right post side to the glove of jonas hiller. >> rick: fourth shot for the wings in overtime. 6 for ana-. >> eddie: 45 for the game for the red wings. >> rick: won by koivu, and the center takes it. brunner sends it in. around for andersson, meets up with lovejoy, finds fowler,ç
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21-year-old fowler, brought to you by damien brunner, koivu, down to win it, and he was escorted by quincey, and a change as the wings move it ahead. ghoois, overtime, and playing in on the side. 11:07 to go in the first overtime. and zetterberg over the boards along with datsyuk and sam yulzson to join that man, jakub kindl and his partner, ryan lashoff. drives it in. and center, collide, as bonino
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and perry. and passed the 9:00 mark of overtime. played by hiller, trapped within the equipment. we get the whistle a lot of whistles, no chances taken. >> eddie: a couple of those types of plays, in this game, in particular, the red wings at jonas hiller, just trying to get a short little hop, hiller going down, that one heç was able to franzen tried it in the third period. >> rick: how are the ice conditions? >> eddie: not bad. look pretty good. look pretty good. >> rick: well over 20,000 fans in the joe. and samuelsson behind the net. and zetterberg, hung on the post, covers the puck. of
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zone. >> rick: hiller, shutout streak broken off tied at 1-1. tieded at 2-2 in overtime. and getzlaf, and ericsson, shoved by zetterberg. and stunned by that. but can't hold the pass. and locking to drive datsyuk and a piece of it back to çdetroit. and datsyuk in front. and cut wide and gets it loose
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to getzlaf. and they play that one carefully. bertuzzi, back down the nice. >> eddie: two big hits, one by beauchemin. >> rick: lines it up. the puck taken in the pocket by eaves, in wide. got to it. he's on the puck now. and behind the net, time to go after it, the winds are changing, fowler, etem, couldn't get it down the ice, fowler has it once again. turns away from brunner.
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etem to center and play. >> eddie: a cut on the right side of the face of çbeauchemi. datsyuk on beauchemin. no way to really protect themselves. and francois, tries to take a run, at pavel datsyuk, gets a piece of him low, pavel ducks at the last second. >> rick: you can see the cut on the side of his head with his head hitting the glass on that collision. he's a sturdy tape. averages about 27 minutes a game in the series. so instrumental, as the ducks' success this year. >> eddie: under the mandatory ice maintenance going on, your honor the 10:00 mark of overtime. scoring chances, in overtime,
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sheldon souray,er play chance, stick of niklas kronwall. big time stop from jonas hiller. corey perry from a bad angle. and eaves off hiller. >> rick: these teams got together in 2009, jonas hiller, a 69-save beauty, triple overtime win against the ducks in joe louis arena. you see what he is facing soç r tonight. and glad you joined us tonight for this one on cnbc, as the duc ducks led 1-0 and 2-1, the red
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wings responded twice at 13:27 in the third period and brendan smith, his first nhl goal in support of his efforts by the wings. sends it out now, allen roughing up a red wing, and couldn't get the shot through, fired off the side of the goal. cleary reaching for it. winnik, lifts it out. cogliano has the speed to catch up to it. he does. settles down the rolling puck. stopped by beauchemin, and a great save there. what a chance for winnik and the ducks. filppula, back to the red wings. souray, keeps it away from franzen, off the glass, deflected out.
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no penalty. >> eddie: both coaches getting late here in the first overtime, having to use full complementçf a lineup. thinking hard in the net. and a good job negating the icing, here comes filppula. i don't known it went off jonas hiller or not. >> rick: datsyuk, kronwall, fires it over the glove of hiller, and picked up by souray. and kronwall, hammers it right back in. sheldon souray. >> rick: able to get it doubt. and beleskey drops his stick. guess what? good job of cutting off zetterberg.
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kronwall, ericsson, carrying the load for the red wings defense in this game. better working together. kronwall, at pass, nice set of air, ryan came up with it. clean possession, bounced count over the line. cleary outside, and it's ryan. to etem. cleary gets to it. bonino has it in his sites, and a hit from ryan, throwing the body around here. and tests to the middle. hands it off to smith. knocks down by etem,ç here is e shot blocked. another try by quincey. and filppula, smith, failed by etem. cleary and franzen both around the net. can't find quincey and off his
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stick, just wide and fowler made a heck of a play. smith. quincy with a shot, blocked by ryan, and behind the net. cleary in front of hiller, and franzen looks that way. trying to lose fowler, and down front. defended by lovejoy. and cleary back down the boards, fowler takes it. cleary, and the wings still control that puck. and makes it across. quincey, back to sent every ice, ducks desperately need a change. and they will go the long way. can they get a break here? the playoff sides. >> they try not on the floor, franzen not able to bring the
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puck back from the forehand to the backhand. and hiller seeing a lot of that redç wings in front of the net. >> rick: etem, out top, and howard, kindl dropping it for andersson. brunner, able to get it out to center, sbisa, starts the other way. the wings control. double-teams, shops it in off a detroit stick. ki kindl, muscled in, and jimmy howard coming up for the stop. andersson has to find a way to get it. and post check by hiller, and they score! and bottoms up!
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wings win it 3-2. in the first overtime. and this series is tied two games a piece. and the wings have won it in overtime, and hiller, it was marvelous throughout. 46 saves and a victory. hiller andç brunner played one year. you remember getting one goal in the 2006-07 season. a00 win here. and in on goal, couldn't control it. and hiller, the coat check. able to take the puck away. no one there to stop damien brunner as the red wings came out and brunner with a tap in. and three points in game two,
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and he gets the overtime winner he . and the celebration begins here at joe louis arena. the three stars will be introduced. the thunderous ovation at the joe louisa reasona jimmy howard, how many huge saves did he make? along with hiller in a tremendous goaltending display, pavel datsyuk, the tying goal. in the third period. and it belonged to him. and the overtime game-winning goal for damien brunner. second goal of this series as wç mentioned. a 3.9, and the other red wing
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win in overtime and the overtime goal scoring hero, brunner standing by. >> eddie: congratulations, take us through the overtime winning goal. >> a nice pass, i could handle it through the middle and i had a wide open net and it went in. >> eddie: your coach, mike babcock, talked about you guys getting more shots, more people to the front of the net. do you think you accomplished that here tonight? >> yeah, we definitely did a better job getting more pucks to hiller, making more difficult for him, and i thought we did deserve that win. >> eddie: how about some of the saves from your goaltender, jimmy howard? >> unbelievable. he has been there all year, and doing the same thing tonight. >> thank you, back up to you, rick. >> rick: 3-2 red wings overtime. and we put home the rebound, and
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detroit tied the series up 2-2. and red wings bench explodes in ecstasy as does the crowd in joe louis arena. red wings 3, ducks 2. >> russ whaler and mike keenan back at the studio. damien brunner, 15:10 first overtime period for the red wings at home. advantage who now in this series? >> i don't know if there is an advantage from this game, because the red wings come back and tied series. but anaheim certainly would be the favorite in my point of view at this time. great offensive skill that we talked about, momentum for detroit. went into the period with the momentum they carried the play, the shots in the overtime, but pretty much equal, but a little bit of a miscue on the goal by
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allen. goes in behind the net rather than stopping in front. and hiller made the coat check. the puck loose, the defenseman should have stopped. goes behind and an empty net goal. >> what a series for gustaf nyquist. game winner in overtime for detroit's first game win in the series and the assist on the overtime game-winner here for brunner. >> hunted down by a couple defensemen. allen loses his position because of the momentum and as a result, 55, tries to get up on his feet, and he can't stop in time, and then doesn't get back to cover the front of the net, an empty net goal. unfortunate break for allen, the red wings work for an clear cut break-away there, and when you work for your opportunity, and your offense, you get good results. >> game four, wednesday night, 10:00 person eastern, nbc sports network. who has more pressure, on anaheim because you are playing
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at home? >> look, both teams have won stanley cup. many players that know how to deal with pressures and expectations. i don't think that's an applicable aspect of the same two teams. >> correction. game five coming up wednesday night. blues and kings under way on the nbc sports network in the second period. tied 2-2. and the series incredible hitting. cnbc and nbc sports network. game four between the penguins and islanders, pittsburgh given all they can handle. 9:30 eastern, blackhawks and the wild. coming up next, "mad money" with jim kracramer. and 10:00 eastern, sharks a chance to sweep the canucks, for mike keenan, and our entire
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crew, i'm russ thaler. clients are always learning more to make their money do more. (ann) to help me plan my next move, i take scottrade's free, in-branch seminars... plus, their live webinars. i use daily market commentary to improve my strategy. and my local scottrade office guides my learning every step of the way. because they know i don't trade like everybody. i trade like me. >> thank you, mark ellis, for coming on mad money. i really appreciate it. >> thank you, jim. ) scottr >> thank you, jim. ) scottr >> mark ellis, ceo of linn they think like us. thank you to mark ellis, ceo. coming up, panic room? home security stock? adt had been a fortress since its ipo last year. recently, it's been setting off alarms. tonight, cramer talks to the ceo
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when do the dissynergy stocks, meaning they were spun off, there were some costs associated, maybe one time only, maybe haven't been put behind you yet? >> well the dis-synergies were related to the split of the residential and commercial in adt. we ran them as a separate business. as they were separated and dedicated, some of the back office, i.t., hr, some finance resources were shared between the two businesses. so now we've got to go build up capabilities. for the most part, we've made those investments. we've built that out. now we should get leverage as we continue to grow our business. >> you mentioned slight pressure from competition. is that just going to be with us at all times if we own shares in adt is?
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>> i look at it and say adt has a great market position. we have the strongest product portfolio with our new adt pulse offering. i believe we bought the the leading interactive service solution. we will see competitors come into the marketplace. we have for the 140 years we have been if expense. i think that's something we will deal with in due course. >> y the doctor 2 billion buyback after two years. we've said we've front loaded. we have done over $800 million of the buyback through the first several mons of the program. >> why are people saying you are afraid to get a lower credit rating in order to increase the buy t. stock has to climb a lot? >> i think that's something we're always going to be looking at. as a board, we discuss the right capital structure. in november, we reported our earnings. we talked about a debt ratio of two times ebitda.
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we are executing according to that plan. it's something we will continue to discuss. >> you have a board meeting this week? >> we have a board meeting next week. >> obviously, i'm sure they will discuss the idea it was at 48, went to 40 very quickly and your stock was somewhat defenseless, frankly. >> like i said, i don't look at the day-to-day as you pointed out. we got everything back last week. >> let's talk about pulse, i met with at&t last year. they were telling me, mr. delavega, he was forceful. he said we can destroy adt. we have by far the best position, the best hardware, already the connection with the customer. we can offer something better than pulse. how are they doing versus you in your competitive eyes? >> well, we've done very well with our pulse rollout. we have been in the market 2 1/2 years now. when we launched the product, we said we would get 20-30% in our direct tech channel. last week we were almost at 33% through our direct channel.
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we are also seeing great momentum in our small business an our dealer channel. so i think we have a lot of momentum with pulse. the product is doing very well and i think it will continue to do well. >> well, what is the technical, technological advantage you have over the at&t offer with pulse? >> i think first and foremost, we are indifferent to whose broadband we are riding on. >> verizon, century link. >> exactly. we can ride on anybody's broadband. we started with a security mindset. we started with that life safety and security focus and expanded from there. so the reliability was first and foremost in our mind when we were designing our solution. we built off of that. we already had a strong presence in the home. 16,000 employees. we've got a lot of security experts in the field every day. >> to me, obviously the morgan stanley bear converted to being a hold. the stock is back to where it traded. i think it's a compelling and expensive situation.
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are you ready? time for the lightning round. trenton in wyoming. trenton. >> caller: hey, jim. so ellie mae reported another beat last week and sold a record number of software seats. what do you think? elli? >> that's a mortgage origination play. i am for that as well as radian and genworth. richard in connecticut. richard. >> caller: hello, a big connecticut boo-yah to ya. >> what's going on?
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>> caller: my stock is discover financial services, dfs. i think it's a great card. >> it's so cheap. stefanie link, research director, we have been itching to buy that stock but keep getting frozen. you got a good one. let's go to jim in illinois. jim! >> caller: hello, boo-yah. >> boo-yah to you. >> caller: windy city here in chicago. i'm calling to ask about ez-chip. ezch? >> that is too dicey for me. it hasn't been doing that well. there is a reason why. it's up with of those semiconductor stocks that, frankly, it's too darn hard to figure out what's going to happen. i want to stay away from it. let's go to dave in missouri, please, dave. >> caller: hey, cramer, i've got a question. >> sure. >> caller: oil and gas companies like sandridge and chesapeake have a lot of assets selling cheap. why doesn't a major oil company like chevron, exxon, scoop them up and buy them out? >> well, i think they're very difficult to understand.
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that's a part of the problem. my friend dan dicker who writes with me on realmoney.com, he says averages work well at $5, i'm not going to go against them, at the same time when you buy these down-and-outers, when they go down, you feel like shooting yourself. just say, interesting ideas, but pure speculation. joanie in new york. joanie. >> boo-yah from joanie in upstate, new york. jim, i bought some shares of cynosure. i think they have an interesting product mix. now my head hurts from all the conflicting research and opinions, i said, that's it, i'm calling jim cramer. >> i'd rather buy allergan. it's a better play i think. let go to jeremy in wisconsin, jeremy. >> caller: hey, jim, a great big badger boo-yah to you. >> oh, man, badgers, i love
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them, what's up? >> jim, my question is, two, two harvards investment corps. looking at there's earnings, they question if they sustained the dividend. they have a q4 spinout stock is not short what do you think? >> it's interesting. agnc really took my breath away. so i will sit on the sidelines, mortgage trust. there is so much noise, look, it's more conviction than i have, let's put it that way. and that, ladies and gentlemen, is the conclusion of the lightning round.
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what's happening with hain celestial? you know we are believers of food here on "mad money" and people want to eat food that is healthy and made with natural ingredients. hain celestial, the company behind a vast number of organic brands that you might find in your supermarket, take celestial seasonings, garden of eden, greek gods yogurt, many others, reported last thursday after the close, the market's verdict was,
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hey, disappointment. in response the stock the next day it fell $2. did hain celestial really miss? the company's earnings per share were in line with wall street estimate, it's revenue, despite being the largest in history. the hain's full-year guidance the revenue forecast again coming in slightly below what the analysts wanted to see, however, when you look below the surfaces on mad money the revenue was hain's business in the u.k., which could be ready to turn around thanks to a spate of recent acquisitions. meanwhile, at the level, the company had 14 brands by double digits. 16 more in the high double digits. eight brands that could double or triple in size. hain has more than 100 products slated to start shipping next
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month in the u.s. alone. they have a leading u.k. baby food producer in the u.k. they can blow that out internationally. so perhaps we need to view the pullback in hain as a buying opportunity. it has given us a 246% gain since i got behind it in april, 2010. let's do the homework, check them with the chairman and founder, hear more about the quarter and where his company is headed. mr. simon, welcome back to mad money. >> hey, jim. >> irwin, i'm going to cut to it. nice guy, ken goldman, he goes, quickly, you have to tell me, you lowered top line pretty substantially. true or false? >> we didn't lower, you know, our sales expectation came in at $20 million last. and we don't give quarterly guidance, and here with running a company today, you know, in the u.k., we missed some promotions that we decided not to run with a major retailer. not a good business decision to run them. there were some promotions that moved into the next quarter.
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>> we don't know, tesco and sainsbury are so powerful, you can't tell them what to do. >> you can't tell them what to do. the thing is, we could run them for a much higher cost. they're not right for the long-term health of the business. jim, listen, we built over a billion dollar company in the u.s., we started in the u.k. 18 months ago. we got close to a million dollar business. health and wellness is on every retailer's mind in the u.k. today. we own hartley's, sun path, 58% of our sales are branded food companies in the u.k. and the u.k. is turning around. europe is bottoming. >> i sat back and i said i know it's going to be another tough one for irwin. wow, i wish you stayed in the united states. you have 25% of the people that tried it in the u.s. you can take it to 50 and you never had to look at u.k. until u.k. recovers. that's philosophical. >> it is. for 60 million people, there is great retailers there.
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what i'm looking to do is build a global food and company care, acquiring ellis to take earth's best on an infant children's feeding business across the world, buying, you know the business in the u.k. that we bought allows us to take celestial seasoning, rice chips and carrot chips on a global basis. if you come back and look at the bigger consumer package goods, they have not built global businesses. back to your question. listen, only 25% of the households in the u.s. consume hain products. 95% bought organic products. so, number one, there is a lot of leg room and a lot of runway for us to grow in the u.s. but the other thing is there is some great values in europe and u.k. to buy some great brands. >> your stock is more highly valued than those companies you said, listen, are growing 2-3%.
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therefore, your stock is vulnerable. to any sort of chink. was everything perfect? no. >> so step back for a second. listen, you know, we today, health and wellness is a big part on everybody's mind and in regards to the u.s., our business is growing well within bulk foods. >> someone tried to say it's 9, not 11. a guy got caught up in 9.3. it was very confusing. >> well, it is growing. our last consumption numbers, jim, were up 9% where conventional food companies are growing 2.2%. who is growing like that on an organic basis? so, stepping back, hey, as you heard what was said at the beginning, we have over 10-11 brands growing today at double digits, 14 brands. we have 14 brands or 10 brands that are $100 million plus. we have seven or eight brands that are $40-$50 million. there's a lot that will grow or double.
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>> the critics want you to stop growing, stop buying, let's see how the company does. if there is a land grab of organics out there, that would be a mistake. >> i say when you are green, you are growing, when you are not, you are rotten. heinz is the only company that has done food deals out there. >> right. >> and part of my multiple, part of my valuation is doing great strategic acquisitions. listen, i got criticized because i went in the u.k. and bought great brands, hartleys and sun path, which will help my business in the u.k. did i get any credit for buying ella's which is right in my sweet spot, which is the number one leading baby food company in the u.k. aed europe? >> i heard is you got two very large retailers. i did feel like you are making strides with kroger and target. it was painful to hear these other two guys, who frankly had not had that good of business, although they do have some
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degree of control over your business. >> well, listen, but on the other hand, you know, we're one of the largest suppliers to sainsbury and tesco. i want to diversify our base. listen, i don't want to be 100% based business within the u.s. >> that's important. >> i don't want to be whole foods. i don't want to be walmart, kroger. listen, we had a great business in canada and loblaws, growing with soby's there. i want to build no different than coca-cola. how do we build global brands? and that's what you get value for is building global brands bit by bit, and that's what we're doing at hain, you will be able to buy earth's best. around the world. you will be able buy celestial seasoning, one of the hottest categories is the juicy category. thing is, jim, i'll come back. greek yogurt, we were there early. juicing, mothers enter the organic category on baby.
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average to plummet down in a very short period of time. i remember it well. i come out early for my stock trading segment. and the dow already started to crash, ultimately plunging a thousand points in a matter of minutes. you might not remember now, but back then there were ferocious riots in greece happening at the very moment it was plummeting. the televised brutality in that tinder box, they decided somehow the decline had to be related to actual events. that was the take-away. at the same time, i had been discovering high frequency trading. they try to get a second edge on the rivals as well as larger buyers and sellers in what we used to call illegal front running. it has been accepted by the sec as totally legal. after doing my homework, i came to the conclusion that these high frequency traders did the opposite. they may look leak they are all
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bidding for stock, given the illusion that markets were deep so to speak, i thought they were set to the same frequency, when there are many sellers, step away or you will get hurt. i discovered a lot of people were involved with supporting that trading, but there was a possibility we could have a high decline because the buyers would vanish. these guys are there to run ahead of larger orders in a perfectly legal fashion, if the larger firms are scared and back away because a big sell-off of events unknown, known, then these rapid fire buyers would not be able to stand there and support the markets themselves. they might switch sides to become sellers to exacerbate the decline. that's what happened the day of the flash crash, buyers vanished. stocks like procter & gamble vanished. hundreds of billions were lost. when i came out, i quickly realized this is exactly what i most feared. there were no large buyers, no high frequency buyers, plus the new york stock exchange which has specialists designed to slow
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things down had become a much more factor in trying to destabilize things. anyway, i've tried to let people capitalize on it by putting in limit orders. they started coming back. if you panicked and sold, let's say you lost a fortune, so take a look. >> now broken dow 10,000, nearly 900. >> p & g is now down 25%. >> if that's true, that stock is there, you go and buy it. take me there, that is not a real price. >> that is liquidating. is there a distress signal? >> 49 and a quarter bid for 50 tough. proctor if i wrote my hedge fund. proctor jumped 7 points. i'd buy 50,000, 49, flipped it at 59. the market didn't work. it broke down. the machines broke down. it's the greatest story never told. you will never know what happened there. >> there was no liquidation. there was no news. the p & g trade worked. people are thanking me for that one. i was glad the government attempted to figure out what really happened. like i said, it wouldn't, it
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wouldn't at the time, it never could. so-called circuit breakers involving declines would end these flash crashes. frankly, i like the circuit breakers. i didn't know that they worked. i say, get used to this these flash crashes could be the normal part, my advice, for individual investors, you should be profiting from these machines. put limit orders, not market order, underneath your favorite stocks. corporate treasurers listen to me. make sure have you your buyback orders, every price down, every order, so you can profit for your shareholders. don't be buffaloed. you can, indeed, take advantage of the chaos to get better price even tow your mignons tell you you can't. i've done it. they haven't. it's a benign method of making money trading, not legalized front running as warren buffet said this weekend. it doesn't matter, it produces
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