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be bad. murky. >> feeling brave. >> split-screen, do we have time? >> that does it for us. don't go anywhere. very special edition of "mad money" coming up right now. we're a long way from home where american technology has unlocked new resources deep beneath the waves below power ago new industrial revolution happening right before our eyes. tonight you're going to learn all about it. "mad money: invest in america" begins now. hey, i'm cramer. welcome to "mad money." welcome to cramerica. my job is not just to entertain but teach and educate, especially when it comes to the energy revolution that's fundamentally changing our country. so thanks for joining me in the
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bayou. we're willing to two go to any lengths to find you the best investment ideas in this country and today is an extreme example, as you can see on the backdrop behind me. the s&p declined just.05%, nasdaq is up.04%, we've come out to an ensco 99 jackup rig exploring for oil on behalf of energy xxi. we're off the coast of louisiana not to celebrate the finally of "true detective" but to plum the depths offshore for some terrific ideas borne from the bayou. we're here to celebrate american ingenuity and know how because you need to understand how to profit from one of the greatest themes of our time -- the domestic oil and gas ran sans. oh, and can i also point out we're down here to find out the true meaning of the word z booze ya, because we no it originates in this raging cajun portion of the sportsman's paradise and from what we can tell the literal translation is "thanks for making me a boat load of
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money." tonight you'll hear from people involved in the oil and gas renaissance, louisiana governor bobby jindal, point man on one state's quest to barness cheap natural gas. john ferriola, president of new corps, the giant steal maker. it's taking of how low natural gas prices to build a brand new start from scratch iron processing plants on the banks of the mississippi. it's the material needed to make the finest steel. we'll listen to jim brown, halliburton's president for the western hemisphere. he'll tell us how he's using new technologies to get to oil we used to think couldn't be extracted. he's using mobile and cloud tech innovations so exploration and production companies can better exploit mature and unconventional fields. which brings us to where we are right now, on top of one of the most mature fields in the gulf of mexico where emergency xxi is drilling on an old shallow water exxon field using brand new technology to reinvigorate what
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was once thought to be a dying prospect. and we aren't down here so much to recommend stocks for trades as we are to show you why we think the american oil and gas revolution is to a long-term field that you can fall back on any time the market goes haywire, difficult times in turkey or latin america or the usual slowdown in china, the proximate cause for today's ho hem negative action. we believe the two we visited, the utica in ohio or in north dakota will continue to pay dividends for those who have the patience to see it through. what have we learned out here? we can see how a steel maker like new corps has a competitive advantage over foreign and even other domestic steel companies knew corps. even as its biggest earnings driving big time construction hasn't snapped back from this country. you're being paid well courtesy inucor's 3% deal, and we
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recognize that even though china appears to be slowing down again, as you can see from both their stock market and their export figure this is weekend, there's still a worldwide thirst for oil that makes the companies that find and produce crude excellent long-term investments. if you look behind me, you will see a rig owned by ensco, an oil service company that gives you an almost 6% yield. why is it so high? one reason is that ensco has been raising its dividend in dramatic fashion but also because the stock has been a real underperformer making it an accidentally high yielder. i can't say this is the level to start buying ensco but i know it's too low to sell. meanwhile, halliburton is playing a big role in make mag which you are fields like this one come back to life. this stock has been red hot since the beginning of the year. halliburton knows more than just drilling in the gulf, it knows drilling on wall street as the company brought back 7% of its shares on the open market last year. as aggressive as halliburton's buyback has been, few
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managements feel their stock is more undervalued than energy xxi, the company running this ensco rig i'm standing on. energy xxi which takes older fields and uses new technology to exploit them has recently brought back 12312-% of its share. chairman, ceo and founder john schiller has take than extraordinary action. why? he believe this is country is dramatically undervalued and that his model of buying old fields and rejooef nating them can produce fabulous returns as he acquires more left for dead properties. looking around the gulf, i bet there are a ton of mature fields he could snap up on the cheap and turn it around rapidly to bring more oil out of their domes than anyone thought possibly even just a few years ago. so here's the bottom line: opportunity's knocking down here and knocking loudly and "mad money" is answering the call. that's why we've come down to louisiana to flush out one of the best investing themes of our time -- the north american energy renaissance and the companies that are profiting from it. enjoy the show, it's a great one.
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"mad money" will be right back with more from the bayou. coming up, the revolution is here. >> people want to write it off but we come back to the old adage, big oil. >> energy energy is transforming our economy and it's no longer just the big names you know. this rig was left behind by exxon, but tonight cramer's getting an inside look at how energy xxi transformed it to deliver big profits to shareholders. ♪
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booyah! welcome back to the gulf of mexico. we're on the ensco 99 oil rig off the coast of grand aisle,
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louisiana, but we're taking a closer look at one of the epicenter's north american energy revolution. this vig run by energy xxi, or e xxi a home gamer name. it runs seven of the 11 oil fields in the gulf and is always on the lookout to buy new properties like this one. an oil field left for dead by exxon is making big profits for energy xxi shareholders so let's look with john schiller, found,er, chairman and ceo of energy xxi limited. thanks for inviting us to your rig and welcome to mad money. >> glad to be here. >> this is an old field, old exxon field, but you come here with new technology and you have been using the phrase to me you're just scratching the surface. >> that's right, jim. we're sitting at west delta 30 which is the second-largest oil field on the gulf of mexico shelf, made $580 million barrels of oil and there's been two wells drilled in the field in
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the last nine years and we've got a rig right here getting ready to drill our first well, a lot more oil. >> exxon, presumably, big company, wouldn't just sell something unless they felt it wasn't of great value. but it's not that it's not a great value to them, big company, but it can be of great value to you. >> that's a correct statement. it's what i call the $20 barrel. we'll make a lot of money finding barrels at $20 a barrel. exxon needs to be finding $10 a barrel, that's the game they play so they can never get capital here. they knew there was oil left but it wasn't economical in their big machine to capture capital from it. >> you've been drilling in two places: right here but also on wall street. you have been one of the most aggressive buyers of your own stock. is that because you believe that there is such a differential between what you're bringing out and what you can get that it's too good an opportunity for shareholders not to take advantage of? >> exactly. we've had an opportunity with price dips to step in and buy. we bought back an average price
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around $25, $24 a share and we're finding oil for cheaper than what we're selling for right now. >> we're looking at a rig, it's very costly. we know to run it everyday costs a lot of money. how are you able to make money given the cost of what you have to pay ensco and all your crew? because think of about it, everything's got to go right. >> yeah, we have a high success rate on development wells. 95%. that helps but we're paying that rig about $125, you add another $125 -- >> $125, 000. >> yeah, so $250, 000 a day total is what we're spending on that rig. >> how much does it cost you just to talk to me? [ laughter ] >> well, let's see how long we talk. but, you know, our typical well costs between $10 and $12 million to get drilled and we'll bring on the low side $6, 00,000
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barrels and high side $1.5 million barrels. >> how many more properties are left that you bought and what could be the proof reserve to what you have going? >> we're on the cutting edge. we have 180 barrels crude reserves. when you look at 3p it's almost 300 barrels. we're going to move that oil into the crude category over time. >> meaning it's likely it's down there? >> yes, remember, it has to be in a reservoir that's already been penetrated and proven productive so more importantly with a new seismic, this field is on a chute that will be done by fairfield over the next 12 to 18 months, it will give us better data and they're producing horizons here from 3,000 feet to 18,000 feet. that's a lot of plays, not to mention we think we have prospects down to 24,000 at the base. >> one of the things that's happened clearly and i know you've been maybe able to harness it better than most. the technology, even since you
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bought these fields that wasn't that long ago seems to have been moving in a revolutionary pace. not evolutionary pace. it must help you find oil where you didn't think there would be oil. >> advances across the board. you talked about it yesterday with jim brown. seismic reprocessing speeds, new acquisition methods, the abilities to do with what we're doing with horizonal which is was invented here. the geosteering tools that were-to-do the things that were invented in the gulf of mexico. it's so dam expensive out here that if you save a man hour or two i can justify the higher cost for the development of the new product. so horizonal drilling, the way we complete them, the way we gas lift today and all of those things lead to higher recoveries than anything we've seen before. >> how much oil do you expect per day from just when this is completed? >> we get off this platform and we're going to drill several wells here we're looking to get anywhere up from 5,000 to 10, 000 barrels from incremental oil
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when we leave here. >> what do you think it was before you came down here when exxon pretty much gave it up. >> so this field, take west delta 73, the sister field. it was 2,000 barrels a day. now we're making 7,000 barrels a day. this field is running around 3, 500 to 4,000. i think we'll get it up over 10, 000 easily. we have a lot of opportunities identified here. >> and you're 13 miles offshore but you have all the pipe already in place, right? >> yeah, we're sitting on top of a big salt dome. this whole field is surrounded by platforms and pipelines we've already put in. we process right here, put in the our pipeline to grand isle and then we separate oil and water and gas back on shore. so we're looking wells up. yesterday we finished completing a well -- >> just yesterday, right here? >> it will be flowing making money tomorrow morning. >> i've got to tell you, you tell a great story, john. i know stock has been depressed bud if you didn't think it was a great value you'd be selling the stock not buying and you're
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probably one of the most aggressive buyers i've ever seen of any stock you come across. >> thank you much for that. >> that's john schiller, founder, chairman, ceo of energy xxi limited. thanks. can you show us around the sflig. >> yeah, let's go look at the rig. >> energy xxi platform? and this was at one point exxon's? >> this was at one point exxon's. >> so you had this? >> yes, and down below us are the producing wells. >> this is it? >> this is it. >> how is the difference between speed? they. >> there's going to be some slower. >> but you can't be concerned about whether you do it by the end of march. i mean, it's not a business that lends itself to what you can do for that quarter. you do what's right for the business for whatever time. >> we're going to maximize the efficiency around our drilling with this rig so we want to get
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a well down every 45 days. that's the game plan. if we have two of them drills and completed in a quarter, great. most likely it's going to overlap a quarter. you're just not looking at your business quarter-to-quarter, you're looking year by year at least.
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you should understand that the north american energy revolution is about more than just more money for companies that produce oil and natural gas. the fact is, our plentiful supplies of natural gas are making the united states a much better place to do business for all sorts of industrial companies. that's one of the reasons why nucor, the big steel company, built their new destruct reduce iron facility down here in louisiana. yesterday i got to check in with john ferriola, the chairman and ceo of nucor, take a look. john, what does this plant behind us do and why did you build it here? >> it produces d.r.i., direct reduced iron, a pure form of iron units that allows us to reduce our costs and produce a higher-quality product. at tend it makes us more competitive, particularly against imported steel, steel that has to be produced in other countries that have higher energy costs.
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>> is that because this is the headquarters for using natural gas and the game changer of natural gas for america? >> certainly we consume a lot of natural gas in the dri process. and you're right, the natural gas revolution occurring in the united states it is truly a game changer for manufacturing, particularly manufacturing industries that are energy intensive like steel, like dri production. you know, jim, when you think about the tremendous increase that o's occurred in natural gas production, it's dramatically change the energy landscape on a global basis and it's made america a lot more competitive to be able to invest in manufacturing. but let's talk about what it was like before the game change and after. where would you be getting steel that's always been -- where would you be getting your raw costs and somehow this lowering your cost? >> well, dri lowers our cost in a couple ways. first of all, the dri pellet
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itself is a high quality form of iron unit so it's high quality. it's more intense and the shape of the dri pellet allows us to put in the the furnace in a way that actually reduces our energy consumption in the furnace while at the same time increasing the productivity of the furnace. so when we're making steel in our electric furnaces we have lower energy costs, higher productivity that makes us more competitive, particularly on an international basis. >> now when you speak about international basis, there are companies and countries that we believe -- and i know you feel very strongly -- dump their steel here. don't you have to be both higher quality than the dumped steel and also come in lower priced in order to win? >> absolutely. and the dri process you see behind me, the plant behind us, supports both of those initiatives. it makes us more competitive by lowering our cost structure, as i mentioned, and we're competing against imported steel that's produced in countries where the
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energy costs are two to three times higher. so let's talk a little bit about the quality, because you're right, we have to be lower cost, more competitive, and we have to have a higher quality product that we offer to the marketplace. dri being a more pure form of iron unit, it's a higher quality raw material. in a furnace, when you put a higher quality raw material in, you get a higher quality product out. and that helps us in several ways -- number one, a higher-quality product gets a premium price in the marketplace. number two, it tends to go into more value-added industries that have higher demand and more stable demand. examples would be automotive. examples would be energy in general. so having a lower cost basis, having a higher-quality product helps us competitively domestically and also internationally. >> at one point you had actually literally been here in america when the natural gas -- all our
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costs were higher and then you ship it had whole plant to trinidad. how does this compare to your trinidad plant? >> well, it's larger for one factor. it produces about $2.5 million tons of dri. our plant in trinidad produces about two million tons. the quality produced here in such a short -- we've been operating about two months and in that short period the team has done such an outstanding job, as i mentioned, first of all, it's the largest plant in the world. being the largest plant in the world, it created unique challenges for our team both in production and in startup. our team has met those challenges, they've overcome those challenges. in just two short months we brought this plant up to a level where we're operating at 95% capacity and the quality of the dri produced here is at world-class standards. i do want to mention about why it's important building it here
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in the united states. we have much better control of it here in the united states. first of all, it gives us security, we know what's going on, we have a stable environment. but secondly, jim, nucor has always been an advocate of american manufacturing and the american worker. we believe there is no more productive worker in the world than the american worker. so being able to put the plant here in st. james parrish, louisiana, where we have a great team, we've been able to higher from the local area, very productive teammates. so having it here gives us better control over it, more security, better cost control and we're producing a product that's very much close to our plants so we have a logistical advantage compared to bringing it all the way from trinidad. >> now, you also have a novel arrangement with encana, a natural gas contract that basically gives you a level that you would not have to pay even
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if natural gas spikes because of this novel arrangement. >> that is correct. and that's important to us, jim, for two reasons. number one, in our steel mills, being the largest producer in the united states, we consume a tremendous amount of energy both in the form of natural gas and in the form of electrical energy produced by natural gas. so we consume a lot of natural gas. natural gas pricing, the cost of our natural gas is very important to our total cost structure. so that's the first issue. so making sure we have a long-term supply of reasonably priced gas at cost is very important to our steel mills. but also, as i mentioned, we consume a tremendous amount of natural gas right here at this dri facility. we consume here about 25 billion cubic feet of natural gas a year right here in louisiana. >> just in this. >> so having that arrangement with encana provides us security on our dri investment and provides us a guaranteed cost
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advantage. >> let's talk about the notion of security in terms of even domestic security. what are some of the countries we would have to deal with and be hostage to if it weren't for plants like this? >> well, dri, direct reduced iron, is a scrap substitute products. other products would include big iron and hbi. about half of the amount of pig iron that comes in to the united states to produce a critical product that we call steel, very important to our national defense, half of our dri comes from ukraine, comes from russia, countries where there's not the greatest level of stability. another scrap substitute product is hbi. that comes from venezuela, another country there's geopolitical risk. >> two things i think people want to focus on, we want domestic security, you're giving us that. we also want clean.
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we don't want the old dirty way of doing which, by the way, a lot of these countries seem to be addicted to. >> just take a look at this plant. look at the plant in the background. it's a very, very clean operation, very environmentally friendly environment. in fact, one of the reasons we prefer dri to scrap is in the furnace dri is more environmentally friendfully our furnaces than scrap material because it's a cleaner raw material going in. >> one last question, will you build the rest? there's talk about huge additions to this if it works. it's obviously up to capacity, you have american workers. can you see it all? >> we have the capacity here to build at least three more dri facilities. we have a 4,000 acre plot here. we built the infrastructure, jim, to support a second dri facility already. so our port facility, our electrical grid system all has been built to accommodate a second furnace. we're going to get this one up and running, we're going to get it stabilized, continue to
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improve its operation then take a hard look at building the second facility. >> thank you, john ferriola, chairman and ceo of nucor, will you show us around, john? >> be happy to. >> okay. >> let's go. >> how do you actually use the natural gas to be able to create the end product? >> we basically use it like a chemical plant. let me show you the product itself. here's what a dri pellet looks like. we start out with pure iron ore and we bake it at about 2,000 degrees fahrenheit and ending up with a very high quality pure iron substitute product. now that sounds like a simple process, jim, but it's actually a very complicated process and to accomplish it we use some of the most technologically advanced equipment and controls found anywhere in the world. >> you say that you use a lot of natural gas but i don't think people understand the enormity, how much you have to use to get
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this iron going. >> we consume about $25 million mm btus and to put that in perspective, that's roughly the amount of gas consumed by the residents across the entire island of manhattan. >> that much. >> that much gas. we build our manufacturing base and strengthen the middle-class. the natural gas revolution that's taking place today is a great opportunity to accomplish both of those goals. we have no issue with exporting some natural gas, but we believe very strongly that it's more important to keep the natural gas here in the united states to create jobs. we'd rather export finished products, not jobs. coming up, playing golf? from the shale to deep offshore, halliburton is the company that helps a long list of players tap into american energy. but can it keep pumping profits into your portfolio? cramer is digging deeper. gunderman group is a go.
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we're down here off the coast of louisiana sitting on top of an oil rig. in order to celebrate the north american oil and gas
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renaissance. when you think oil and gas you should think halliburton, the second-largest oil service on earth with major exposure to north america. that's why we were thrilled when we got a chance to talk with jim brown, president of halliburton's western hemisphere operations. take a look. jim, it's been three years since we saw each other last. tell me how your technology has advanced, what you could do now that you couldn't do then. it's very similar to what happened on land, jim. if you look at the change in the reserve base, how we went from peak oil a few years ago to a growing reserve base. that same thing is happening on land with the unconventionals, it's happening right here in the gulf of mexico. both with the evolution of the deep water place as well as getting more oil out of the ground on the mature place. >> i know one of the things halliburton does with the haul advantage is get higher product for a lower cost per a girl. h -- barrel. how do you do that? >> if you look at where
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halliburton fits in to the oil and gas development realm, we touch every aspect of drilling, evaluating, completing and ultimately producing the well. so take deep water, for instance, you've got a well that's going to cost about $130 million. you equate that to a minute rate, it's $900,000 a minute. so every bit of technology you can bring to play that can reduce that non-productive time is going to make that play more economically viable. >> is it people or machines? what enables that? because i see from -- since i talked to you last this cipher program you have. it seems almost like cloud, social, mobile. all the things you think about with technology and silicon valley right here on a rig. >> it really is. it's taking the whole opt mission process, not only the surface delivery piece of the oil and gas industry but the subsurface piece in terms of how we lower that boe, that unit cost of production. >> exxon, great customer, every knows 50-year plan.
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they decided these fields were pretty much for them not a needle mover anymore. with your technology, are these fields you never want to let go? >> of course not. if you look at the three primary strategies of hat ha halliburton, it's around unconventional and you were in the bakken, you see that. here in the gulf of mexico it's about deep water which is our second and third mature fields. you have two components right there. so what is the technology that's changed the reserve landscape? >> what is it? >> the 3d seismic and 4d seismic where you can get a visual picture and reduce your exploratory risk. secondly it's the accurate directional drilling, horizontal drilling process that's taking place today. then finally it 's the efficiency around multistage completions. same thing you saw in the bakken is happening right here in the gulf of mexico. >> let's make it clear to our viewers. instead of going vertical down you do what you were doing in the bakken -- go left, go right.
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>> directional drilling that gets you around the salt domes and horizontal drilling. look at the deepwater. you're in 5,000 to 10,000 feet of water and then you subsurface another 20,000 feet but you're geosteering to the formation. then the multistage completions that, again, lower that cost to the operator and expose more pay to the pipe. one of the reasons i like halliburton stock so much, not just because of the buyback which is probably the best in the industry but you have gone on record as saying that you are building -- your wells, that you're doing 20, 40, even 60% better than wells that are right next door. how is that possible? >> our model has always been this, if we can make the most efficient surface operation we can make better wells, if you go across the unconventional plays right now in north america you'll find the wells we've been involved with are 20%, 30%, 40%
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better. so even though there may be a cost to that completion or that drilling process, if you make more oil, make more gas, you've actually lowered that cost per boe and that's what we strive for. >> a lot of the majors have been saying it's gotten too costly to drill. is that because they're talking about geographically? when i look at how much it costs versus when i saw you last, it's gone down. >> it has and if we bring it home here to the gulf of mexico -- obviously if you look at the lower tesh rare and deep my seen, these are very expensive wells so the reserves are there. the reserves are there so then it comes down to rig efficiency, completion efficiency where you get the costs down and lower that cost for boe. but this is a very resilient, resourceful, creative industry and we always find a way to do it. >> let's talk about the industry because when i saw you last you looked in the camera, didn't prompt you, and you said you needed 11,000 more people. how did that go? >> that was in 2011. we hired global they year
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18,000. so here in the gulf of mexico we employ 3,000. that's a payroll of $300 million. those are highly-skilled individuals, highly paid. we'll probably hire another 400 to 500 in 2014. so this market has been a steadfast market for us since the '40s, but actually over the next couple years it's a growth market for us. >> i hear two things when i listen to your presentations. i hear frack of the future and battle red. these initiatives were -- frack of the future may have been when i saw you last because you had me drink the mcflurry like con congress shun -- >> and you're still alive. >> better than ever. but what's battle red? >> battle red is bringing the future -- digitizing our back office we employ in north ameri america, for example, 31, 000 individuals, it's time keeping associated with that. there's the dispatching of all those people so digitizing our back office from time keeping to
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how we dispatch to all of our real-time inventory, we obviously handle a lot of product so it's really digitizing the oil patch to that. >> okay, now given the fact that you're president of the western hemisphere, a name that i -- >> you like that name, don't you? >> we all covet that title. brazil and mexico. these are two very important markets but they're not like dealing with the united states. can a company like halliburton have a -- stay there even though the earnings aren't necessarily coming out there immediately? >> they are, but the reserve having r there, again. and this industry, again, is resourceful and creative and the costs will come down. so you look at brazil where obviously when you look at the pre-salt, those are big, big wells but there's an associated cost with it. but overtime, as we've demonstrated in all the plays around the world, we get those costs down and make those things economically viable. mexico with their transition of government now in understanding that they need outside
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investment, there's going to actualbly a more reliability on the integrated service company to bring that technology so although there's a lull in those markets today we know that long term it will be very strong, even at the end of 2014. >> one last question. there's only 10 states right now producing oil in the united states. are there many more using your technology that we don't know about? >> many more -- >> more places to drill than we already have? >> there are. there's obviously a lot of public land in the u.s. there's a lot of old basins that you need to pull out the old logs and dust them off and look at horizontal applications. so say is there another bakken or another eagle ford? there's pockets of them out there and i think you'll see some more come to play in the next couple years. >> thank you so much for your time, thank halliburton for your time. that's jim brown, president of western hemisphere for halliburton. coming up -- >> this is a once in a
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you might not know this, but the vast majority of the oil rigs in the united states are located right here off the coast of louisiana, a state that's also the number-one exporter in the union. if you want to invest in america, you need to understand louisiana, and what better way to do that than by sitting down with the state's governor? yesterday we got a chance to talk to bobby jindal, who's known as the pro-business republican governor of louisiana. take a look. governor, i know, unless you're going announce for president right here there's a lot of international and national implications but what i really care about is one thing. you have developed an amazing system to bring companies down here and harness this natural gas revolution. how's it going? >> jim, it's going great. thank you for coming to louisiana. we're here in paradise, grand isle. in louisiana, our economy is growing. we're doing what washington, d.c. is not doing. for example, more people working than ever before, higher incomes than ever before.
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our economy has grown 50% faster than the national economy. over $50 billion in projects announced in our state, over 80,000 new jobs. it's not rocket science. what did we do? we cut taxes. we have the lowest taxes for our manufacturing facility anywhere in the country. we've made it easier for people to invest. we have the top-rated work force program in the country. we cut the budget 26%, cut 28,000 government jobs, we're growing to private sector and, by the way, we'd be doing this across the country from washington would get out of the way. >> let's talk about this nucor facility. it was stirring to see it. every american should come down and look at that unbelievable plant which has high wages, another time it might never have been here. how did you get that? >> nucor, a great company, over 140 people working, over $70,000 a year. that's just the first phase. jim, this is about global competition. they were telling us it was between louisiana and brazil. i worked with dan d'amico, the
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previous ceo and now john, their current ceo, they wanted to build in america, and like so many companies they want to manufacturer product bus they're worried about federal regulations. dan said, look we want to make things in this country but we'll build where it makes business sense to build so we worked with them to give them a predictable environment, we worked with them to make sure they had trained workers and we got d.c. out of the way. look at what the administration is doing. the president is dragging out oil and gas production, we're seeing less production on federal lands since he's taken office since 2007, even before he took office. he wants to create jobs here, why not build the keystone pipeline? why not get the epa and rein them in. they're doing opposite of d.c. in what we're doing in louisiana. >> in terms of big projects that are in louisiana, we've had sharif sukio a lot, that looks like one of the biggest projects i've ever seen. what's the cooperation there with what he's doing and being able to export the excess natural gas we have? >> there's over $30 billion in
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already approved and proposed lng facilities for lake charles alone. we're talking about thousands of construction jobs, great permanent jobs. look, i think it's great. i think we'll stimulate more exploration work in the hanesville shale area. in west louisiana we'll have more than enough natural gas for the petrochemical company. what's interesting, for years we used to export fertilizer out of this country, now natural gas prices we're seeing fertilizer plants reopen. you're seeing companies like nucor, i think the shale revolution has not only lowered energy prices, it's bringing good-paying manufacturing jobs back to america and that's something that benefits -- i don't care if you live in texas, north dakota, louisiana, if you're in the midwest you should care about this. these good paying blue-collar manufacturing jobs. >> something you and i -- i've heard you speak many times and i know we're very much in agreement. right now it seems like that situation in our country there's a big cohort that doesn't like fossil fuels so what we do is we
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allow other countries to take advantage of our own energy and basically we're exporting jobs to them, importing their product. it's not really working because they are -- it's global warming, means it comes from china to l.a. >> well, look, this administration has been very clear, they don't like pipelines, they don't like new refineries, they don't like new exploration. they like subsidizing through crony capitalism expensive forms of energy. the first -- this administration's first energy secretary openly talked about wanting gasoline to be expensive. i want energy to be cheap, affordable, i want to drive those manufacturing jobs here. you're right, we're going to make products. the question is do we make steel and fertilizer and petrochemical products here in america or overseas? i'd rather make them here, not in china or brazil. let's make them in america. >> we talk about minimum wage. the kind of jobs you're talking about where you're working with educational institutions and companies, they're producing jobs that can do more than just put a meal on the table. >> nucor, $70,000 a year.
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we're talking about good paying jobs. a lot of them don't even require four year degrees. we're pro poz posing a huge increase for higher education, that's $4 million for our universities to work with employers to train kids for good paying fast growing jobs out there. these the kinds of jobs we want our kids to have, they have benefits, careers, these aren't minimum wage jobs, these aren't government jobs, these are good paying jobs so you can raise a family. these careers. >> how about right around here where we're looking at? there's fields that have been left for dead, new technology making them come to life. lot of jobs being created? >> absolutely. not only in the shallow gulf -- obviously there's great work happening in the deep shelf, we have companies pushing boundaries and doing great exploration work, shell had an exciting announcement recently. but you have fields thought to be tapped out, you have on shore fields, companies that are creating jobs, creating more energy. what it shows is american ingenuity and innovation still works. in d.c. they see limits, we see opportunity hire. we're seeing the latest technology, you look at what's happening, my first year as governor you had double digit prices from natural gas, now
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you're seeing a dramatic fall because they took new energy to known reserves and were able to bring that out of the ground at a very affordable price. >> we're going to talk about the countries that are no longer competitive versus us. when i speak to nucor, for instance, the steel industry in korea had been an amazing industry but their natural gas cost is so great, so high that the u.s. has such a competitive advantage. there've got to be countries with companies coming near would have stayed over there. >> south africa, over $20 billion investment in southwest louisiana. european fertilizer, a billion dollar investment in our country. benter will steel, europe has an oil-based petrochemical industry, our is natural gas based for feed stock, not just utility prices. we have a structural advantage. you see why we're taking jobs back from asia, back from europe, in part you're seeing the labor cost, no longer the
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big differential but you're seeing this built in advantage because of energy. because of that we can bring good jobs back from overseas. this is a once in a generational opportunity. i think we have to build things in this country. we have to have a diversified economy, can't all be service sector based and we're doing that in louisiana, we can do that across the country. we have 86,000 skilled construction jobs, we have to fill in our state, just for the job project we've already announced after 25 years of exporting our people. for the last six years of a how will we've had more people nuf the state rather than leave the state. this could be happening across america. we could be doing this nationally we just need government to get out of the way. >> okay, so you have to state under control, this sounds like things maybe you should do nationally. any thought to running for? >> let's win '14 first, let's win the war of ideas but energy a big part of the war of ideas. one side is ideological, they want high energy prices, we want affordable energy, we want manufacturing jobs. >> governor, thank you so much that's bobby jindal, the
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done going down. mark was incredibly astute at gauging investor sentiment. he was always measuring whether there was too much froth or too much negativity. he wanted individual investors to be wary of what was too hot and be opportunistic when things got too cold. when mark called the bottom he was focused on the ratio of sellers to buyers as measured by statistics that showed whether sellers were willing to whack the buyers' bids rather than be patient and offer stock. when he saw a 9-1 ratio of sellers versus buyers -- as was happening in 2009 -- he recognized we had gone to emotional extremes. five years ago, he merged intuition with the technical analysis of panic and just plain nailed it. now we don't know what hanes would be saying here after this historic run, but i know he was big on identifying the extent of froth so i think he'd be upset with the way the smaller bioteches and the fuel cell stocks are taking off. however his bod bottom call was about the market as a whole being too negative so as long as the froth is cordoned off to
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small segments, i think hanes would stay skeptical as always of those kinds of stock bus keep looking for bargains elsewhere because they aren't necessarily near top and for most of the market it's still business as usual just carry on. stick with cramer.
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nbc news now says an iranian man purchased the two tickets used by the passengers who had stolen passports aboard the still missing malaysian airlines flight. question. was this a terrorist action? we have the latest nbc news report just ahead. also russia continues to refuse to back down in the crimea. but a big u.s. push to export record national gas shale could severely damage putin's grip on europe. our question, will the u.s. government make it happen. and listen to this. from senator marco rubio. >> there is no better economic model for equality of opportunity than the american free enterprise system. we no longer have the luxury

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