because oil is up. we pointed out that oil is higher, both the kind we use and what europe uses here. oil prices are up. but, oil prices in america have been higher than they are right now at $106 and change a barrel three times in the last year. we've been here before. >> thanks for watching ts "street signs," everybody. >> the "closing bell" starts right now. hi, everybody, and welcome to the "closing bell." i'm kelly evans here at the new york stock exchange. >> i'm tyler mathisen at cnbc headquarters in for bill griffeth. wall street is keeping a wary eye on troubling events over in iraq. militants overrunning cities, taking over oil fields and are now reportedly pushing toward bag. oil prices are popping higher and there is growing alarm globally as some reports say iran is offering its "help." we will have special coverage of this developing crisis. and just ahead, my exclusive

interview with investing legend julian robertson of the tiger funds. what are his best investments right now? plus, he tells us who he thinks the best investor alive is today. and, then amazon launching a music service today. but wall street seemingly unimpressed. the stock taking it on the chin, down about 17% year to date. our special guest bob olsteen is not surprised. he's been a bear on amazon for a long time now and says it is about to go from bad to worse. bob olstein will tell us that and more exclusive in about 30 minutes' time. right now in the markets heading into the close, major indexes heading towards their lows of the session. dow jones industrial average shedding 122 points this hour. take a look over at the nasdaq which is off by about 42, under 4,300. s&p 500 shedding about 15, at

1,928. >> heather hughes, jim lowell, peter anderson, and from chicago, our very own rick santelli. welcome, one and all. heather, let me start with you. we've been spending a lot of the day focusing on what's going on in europe. i don't mean to minimize it in the least, we'll talk about it in a second. but another number out today, retail sales. and it was not particularly favorable. how worrisome is that and what -- and obviously a lot of the retail stocks have been off. >> you're right, there is that strong core laying between retail sales. positive correlation. and we tale tail stocks. right? most of the dk or many of the retail stocks right now are in bear market territory still down 20% from the highs on the year. you know what i think may be impacting the consumer? gas prices. the price at the pump. as we know, oil prices are rising not just due to

geopolitical tensions in iraq, but crude and fuel are rising and that may have an impact on consumers. >> given the escalation potential in iraq, it is amazing markets aren't doing worse here. is that right? >> absolutely. the reality on the ground is that first of all inside that retail sales number there was a silver lining and i'm sure heather noted it as well. restoration hardware up over 10% on the day. we're seeing a lot of consumers buying big-ticket items inside their homes. that's actually a fairly bullish times when consumers allocate their assets reasonably well. but that set against the global backdrop, it certainly looks as though you're facing some significant headwinds. if we see owl prices pick up more than $20 a barrel, that will have an impact, not just on the consumer, but on global recovery overall. >> we're talking about picking up by $2 today.

people are making a lot about that, as they should. but $20 do you think that's possible here? $20 increase in a barrel of oil? >> we'll have to see how the situation on the ground, either diminishes or escalates. we've definitely seen airline stocks take it on the chin today. they're certainly not looking all that -- >> where do you think the high is for oil and what would that do to a consumer as measured by retail sales who's already pulling in his or her horns? >> i think i do expect some choppiness in the oil price. these things very rarely get better immediately. there's likely to be continued tension in iraq. obviously if actual production is impaired significantly and for a long period of time that's going to have an impact on oil. we see a lot of these price shocks. we saw it in the ukraine in energy, we saw it in egypt, in

libya. we keep seeing short-term impacts on potential supplies of oil. they go away in the market and kind of the worst case fears of sustained $120 a barrel just don't happen. it is something to watch but right now i think you got to be thinking it will probably turn out the way the other ones have. >> i imagine there are hedge funds that are long the airline space. remember, this is an entire sector, an industry people had stayed away from for years, have finally piled in to. we've seen a tremendous run-up. today we're certainly giving some of that back. >> yeah, we certainly are. i think going forward what you will see, hedge funds are really trying to make up for the, frankly, horrible returns they've had in the past several years, kelly, so they are really going to take a look at the airlines because they are really going to be starting to probably short those. they're very short-side, no pun intended. but with that view, you won't see a lot of long positions being built in airlines right now.

i'm not necessarily agreeing with that, but in order to play this hedge fund roll, that's exactly what people are doing there. we're seeing short-term performance, any kind of event risk like that, they are poubsing on. and i think that's overall adding to at least some of this volatility. the vix is really low, so even when we do have this kind of activity in the airlines, it is going to take a heck of a lot pushing on just general equities to bring that vix up to levels that we think is appropriate right now. >> what volatility? it is a little higher today but it certainly at some multi-year lows. what's the bond market been telling you, rick santelli? the places to watch most is bond. is there anything in the action over the past several days that's signaling something to you? i note earlier today you gave the auction an a-plus.

>> we had had good demand for the 30-year, unlike the 10-year yesterday. if you look at march's retail sales, let's just look at the generic headline number. it was 1.5% in march. in april, it was revised from .1% to .5%. today, .3%. sequentially, that's the field that we came in with in terms of the landscape. then we see what happens. look at these charts, tyler. at exactly 1:00 eastern on that strong option you were just talking about, that when we really saw rates drop. i understand there is a lot of geopolitics but there's also a lot of gamesmanship going on trying to make it anything but the economy. with regard to the geopolitics, ukraine didn't really stack up and i don't understand the conventional wisdom with dictating how important it may or may not be. why did it wait until 1:00 eastern to really get going? i think that the bond market is right for outside forces to be

affected. not so much to push the yields up. >> if you look at the control group of retail sales which feed into the gdp report it is still running up 5% annualized. i take your point we have to stare straight in the face of whatever weakness there might be in the economy but look again, talking about a 1:00 p.m. deepening the sell-off, why didn't it do that at 8:30 after the chief economic data? it had 3 1/2, 4 hours to digest before that. >> consumers continue to buy not just small cars but luxury cars. not just small trucks, but big, heavy-priced trucks. they continue to buy homes, albeit at a slightly slower rate. there may be a top hatch there. but you look inside even today's weaker than expected retail s e

numbers -- >> they're not doing as reasonably well as they were two months ago. >> they're looking better than i think you're reflecting. >> but not better than three months ago. >> the health care point is a big one. heather, i hear you trying to jump in. >> consumer discretionary is at the back of the pack this year and energy is leading the way. >> consumers -- i think last year's withiners have become this year's losers. don't see that trend reversing any time soon. you alluded to consumer discretionary. i think we still have a lot of the retail stocks, can you find them within the consumer discretionary sector. it is the only red economic sector. 1 out of 10 economic sectors that's down year to date right now. i don't think without any uptick

in growth that will you see that trend reverse any time soon. >> eric, everybody was saying that when the spring came around and the warmer weather came around retail sales were going to pick up and it didn't. >> well, first of all, month to month is volatile as all get-out. 1.5%, 5%, and .3% is a good quarter worth of spending. we just expect consumers to actually continue to spend at roughly the same levels they've been spending at the expansion which will drive economic growth positively. >> today in d.c., torrential downpours, still massive flooding on the weather front. >> it's coming our way then, soo. thanks, folks. we've got about 50 minutes of trading left in this session with the dow dipping down toward its session lows off about 129 points. a lot of cross currents in this market that we were just discussing. chaos in iraq sending global oil prices higher. the latest developments from

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welcome back. crude oil spiking in the wake of iraq possibly spiraling out of control. >> closing at its highest since september, that's sent the airlines stock into a bit of a free fall today. nbc's pentagon reporter jim miklaszewski now has the latest developments for us on a busy

and troubling day for news out of iraq. >> reporter: what sounded like the biggest development of the day is when president obama addressed reporters and said, look, all u.s. options including u.s. military options to help iraq out of this situation are on the table. but that doesn't mean they're all good or viable options. according to senior military and dod officials, there is no current planning for any kind of air strikes. one of the problems is because the u.s. doesn't have any kind of good intelligence, that would be absolutely vital, absolutely necessary to conduct any kind of effective air strikes. at the same time on the ground today, isis took another town today, samarra, it is a shia stronghold and one of the religious icons, the golden mosque is there. if the sunnis did what they did during the war and blow up the mosque, that would blow up the

entire country and it would be overnight an all-out civil war. >> all right, jim. thanks very much. we appreciate that report. some of those names are names we remember from the iraq war, samarra, tikrit, mosul and others. joining us now to discuss what the possible outcomes might be, elon, first to you. what do you think is the likely response by the u.s. in this situation? >> well, i think it is very hard to envision a very policy on the part of the white house simply because there aren't a lot of good options to be had right now. the president articulated sort of a stepped-down process in the middle east precisely because the narrative was iraq is stable, iraq is

self-functioning, self-governing and self-policing. what we're seeing now is that's not the case. but we also know that the american electorate doesn't have a lot of appetite for a repeat of gulf 2. as a result, the administration has a full-blown foreign policy crisis on its hands and it doesn't have very many good options. >> as butch said to sundance said to butch, who are these guys, what do they want and where are they going? >> sure. i think this is a franchise of al qaeda. al qaeda, they are extreme radical sunnis who want to kr l control an area between iraq and syria. they've been setting up an islamic state by really capitalizing on local grievances that are stir a response in dealing with the sunnis in iraq and spread iing.

i don't think it will lead to state collapse. iraqi forces have -- >> ilan, people are saying it is already -- >> the army is walking away from their -- >> i say parts of the state will remain outside government control. that's what will happen. northern part of iraq will not have any government control for the foreseeable future. however, these soldiers, the shia soldiers that were fighting in the north, are less likely to advance. when it comes to the shia area in central iraq, they'll do a much better job. talking about also the potential support from iran and the u.s. >> ilan, is it perhaps worth noting in a situation that bashar al assad is now aligned with u.s. interests? >> i think it is noteworthy but not in a good way.

i think if we remember back to the hostilities that took place in iraq during the mid 2000s, it was in very many ways a proxy car between iraq on one hand and sunni forces, including al qaeda and including saudi arabia on the other. we're beginning to see history repeat itself. the iranian leadership has already said that it is willing and able to send its clerical army, the irgy, into iraq to stabilize the situation to fight al qaeda. in both scenarios, whether iran wins or al qaeda wins, i think american interests are going to take a serious hit. >> ilan, you said one of the dangers, and you don't foresee it, is state collapse. but one of the of arguments here is that in this part of the world for historical reasons, many of these countries really aren't states to begin with. they were established decades ago by the british mandate, and

really are can glom rati lly ao people that don't get along very well. >> sunni, shia, minorities and kurds. i think we're looking at iraq being a very dysfunctional state for the foreseeable future. but in terms of how it affects the exports, oil exports from the south, i think we're looking at minimal risk at this point. i think the expectations that 2.78 barrels, i think the risk of that is very limited. >> whatever the situation is, there are few good options, seemingly, for the u.s.

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welcome back. stocks just off their lows of the session but it is still a negative day. the dow off 108 points this hour. s&p gives up 13 and the nasdaq 37. >> lots of cost currents riling the markets today. tesla shares heading south, too, after the billionaire founder and ceo elon musk says his company is going to share patents with everyone. including rivals. phil lebeau, why is he doing that? >> reporter: it's all about trying to spur development of more electric vehicles in the industry. something we've heard about in the tech industry but it is really unheard of when you come to the auto industry. tesla is opening up all of its patents, at least hundreds of them, to other competitors. they're doing this for competitors who want to use those patents in good faith. in other words, if you are a start-up company and you make a

duplicate model and you're not getting due rates, things may be a little different. it hopes by opening up its patents it will spur development in the industry. here's elon musk in the conference call talking about his disappointment we're not seeing more when it comes to eds. >> i thought things would be much further along than they are. you consider the fact we built the roadster seven years ago with a roughly 50-mile range. it's been seven years and there's no other electric car in production with that range level. i mean that's not great. >> reporter: nor is it great when you look at the sales of electric vehicles last year in the united states. under 100,000 were sold. compare that with all other vehicles -- 15.5 million were sold last year. take a look at shares of tesla. we noted they traded lower during the session after they made the announcement today. guys, bottom line is this -- for

tesla and all electric automakers, to have sales take off, they need to have the price come down on batteries and more energy in those batteries so you can get more range in the vehicle. >> stick around with that. we're joined by ross gerber from gerber kawasaki. let me pose the same question i posed to phil to you. why would he do this? is it a desperation move and what's the risk someone comes in, sees something in those patents and finds the breakthrough that actually doesn't help tesla, but hurts it? >> i think there's no risk in that at all. i think what elon musk is saying, hey, we need electric cars in this country. look at iraq, the piece you did before, it is all about oil in the end, all this fighting. we need to get off the oil economy that we're on. what he's saying is i put out this great car and after all this time, nobody's even got it

even close to a competitor to me. i'm trying to build an electric infrastructure so here's my patents. do something. gm can't even make an ignition switch that works, let alone a fully developed car. so i think he's seeing a bigger picture. tesla will only profit from a greater electric car infrastructure. i think that's why he's trying to do this. >> doesn't gm have the chevy volt? >> come on, have you driven a volt? >> kelly, nissan has the leap. are there other electric vehicles out there? yes, there are. are they wildly successful? no, they are not. that's because of the cost. that gets back to the battery technology. musk is betting that perhaps people will take some of these patents, some of the technology, develop battery technology, develop vehicles that make these come along much quicker. because if that doesn't happen, what we're going to see is electric vehicles being just a niche player in this industry.

that's what tesla's trying to fight. >> are you as surprised as elon musk that the industry has developed more over last several years? >> no, i'm not. because i don't think everybody is committed to it. people who work with automakers, everybody says the same thing. every automaker says we'd love to have electric you a toes but we're not going to make the huge investment that is really needed in order to bring down the cost. and because of that, very few are going to commit to it. >> on cost of the vehicles, that's one thing, clearly. range of the vehicles is another thing, clearly. and the third thing is, the price of oil, until just kr recently has been fairly stable. we're finding more oil domestically. and there is a long-standing relationship between the american auto industry and the energy industry in this country and that's a hard thing to break. >> exactly. that's exactly the issue. you can talk about all these really feasible concepts. but this is a monopoly. it is big oil. it goes back 100 years. and auto industry.

and they perpetuate each other's businesses. and the last thing the car business wants to do is change. that's what elon musk is saying, look at the dealer's reaction. he put a store in new jersey and the dealers went nuts. it is no different than the uber issues or anything else. these long-standing industries that have made billions and billions and maybe trillions of profits don't want to give up those easy profit sources to make something that might be way better but it cost lots of money and will completely change the face of an industry. and they don't know what it will become if this happens. >> last question, phil. but if batteries are the stishging poistishg i sticking point, if they could solve a lot of problems they're discussing, is it that they're not that far along as they would like to be in developing better battery technology? is anybody, public or private sector, going to be able to get there in the next few years? >> no, they're two generations away.

the next generation will cut it a little bit. but not a lot. but you have to go at it at least three or four years. but you have to cohope the cost and energy life of those batteries improve. amazings. two generations. that's going to be a problem for the electric car industry. meantime, amazon launching its prime music streaming service. investors yawning. the stock down 2% today. why the lukewarm reception? plus, we'll speak with closely followed fund manager bob olstein who says amazon is an loser for investors. find out how low he says that stock will go after the break. plus, olstein says mergers and acquisitions are just getting going and he will name names he thinks might be next in the game. you

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>> amazon launching its prime music streaming service but shares are not responding well. they're down almost 3% today. so jon fortt, what explains the sell-off. >> the service doesn't look like that much right off the bat compared to spotify, compared for pandora, even some what have apple has going. my initial take was, eh, not much to care about. i know gene munster feels the same way. i've downloaded it, i've given it a try on my phone. you know what? it is better than i expected. yes, it is missing universal music. but this is a service that really fills in some of the gaps, some of the back catalog songs that you like back in the day that you might want to listen to. it gives you those. i think it will do what amazon needs it to do which is drooiiv music sales. you can download new songs, play lists. it is also likely to increase royalty to prime for those who are already members, maybe even drive a few incremental $99 a

year sign-ups. kelly? >> jon, what does this mean for amazon shareholders? >> joining us, bob olstein, chief investment officer of olstein capital management. i want to first get your thoughts on amazon. it is not a stock you have liked. in fact, quite the opposite. tell us why and tell us where you think it can go. >> first of all, i am a customer of amazon. the fact they had no business plan to make a profit. it's spend, spend, spend, spend, spend. there's no cash flow. $5 billion in sales to $80 billion in sales in the last ten years, still no free cash flow. no plan. they're trying to take over the world. the whole business world. i've had had five companies in my career that have tried to take over the business world that are no longer here. they're everything to everybody. they're music stream. they're phones.

they're supermarket -- >> which are the five? that tried to take over the world? >> conglomerates. remember two plus two equal five? making a long story short, i predict a stock split over the next three to five years but you're not getting more shares. >> if that's the says, being everything to everybody is a negative, isn't that what so many of these tech giants are doing today, whether it is apple or google? >> i don't see it the same way, kelly. these guys are just so far booked out in their business -- they've said, if you don't like our investment, become a customer. >> could he, bob, flip a switch, in effect, and turn this company from one that isn't making a profit now to one that makes a big profit given the volume of

sales? >> maybe he'll make $6 a share. maybe he'll make $8 a share. but it is not going to justify the $325 price. >> bob, i'm curious where you do see opportunity. aside from amazon. >> well, the acquisitions out there are just at the beginning. basically what you have to do is you have to go ahead and look for companies that -- we invest at the olstein funds as private equity partners. we go in and look for companies that are generating huge free cash flow, have temporary issues -- okay? they have temporary issues that are confronting them and showing that huge free cash flow. good businesses. people do not like to invest in companies that have temporary bad news because they want to get in the amazons, the twitters, the linkedins. that's what's working. but we believe we get real true value and that's how our returns have been generated. >> what's an example? >> a great example is techlt

radata. they are growing at 5% and 10%. here is a company that's capable of generating 7% free cash flow yields. they're growing. they are. they do have some competition, but some of the competition is not competition. it's really complimentary. here's a company that maybe an oracle or hewlett-packard who's really stopped growing. can go in and use that free cash flow and that growth and pay a nice premium. >> your second candidate was petsmart, which was a company you say might well be a candidate for a private equity company to come in and take out. but i used to spend a lot of time at petsmart. i now buy my pet supplies from amazon. petsmart is an experience. okay? you go out there. people want to go in. they're no longer growing at 5% and 10% a year but they are growing at 2% and 3% a year. here is a company that's

depreciation that's far above their cap x. you are getting a 9% or 10% free cash flow yield, and in a 2.5% treasury market -- okay? and that will grow at 2% and 3%. this is an outstanding company. they're no longer growing at what everybody wants them to grow at, but, boy, what a great return for a private equity company. >> bob, can you just clarify what positions you have in those names and also wluf's behether been actively shorting amazon? >> we are not actively shorting amazon because right now the lunatics are running the asylum and we're not going to step in their way and we have significant positions in petsmart and teradata. >> i think mr. bezos is on live two for you. the lunatics are running the asylum. >> i meant the stock. mr. bezos is a very smart -- i meant the people buying the stock at these prices. they're really taking a high risk. unless this man is going to produce $10 a share free cash flow. and there's no indication. i'd rather stick to buying in

our fund the 9% and 10% free cash flow yields and make money slowly and care about risk. >> what about radio shack? >> boy, that's just gone a long way. we sold it a long time ago. at one time we had it, at one time we made a lot of money. our last trip in, we saw that the company was going in the wrong direction and we vacated the premises. >> is it going to survive? >> you know, it's really interesting. i don't know. i think there is an opportunity because of the location, but whether or not management and the debt, it may be too late. but we're monitoring it. because if there is any indication there, we may be looking at it. >> bob olstein, thanks so much. we've got about 20 minutes left until the closing bell. the dow is down now 140 points. are markets rigged? in the wake of charges in michael lewis' case, hedge fund

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the dow off 131 points. nasdaq off nine. >> i had a chance to sit down with storied investor julian robertson. the full interview you'll see next hour. but tyler, i do want to preview that with this clip where i asked him about the claim from author michael lewis in "flash boys" that the market isn't fair for the average guy. >> do you think there's something broken with markets today, whether it is michael lieu wis lewis' claim that the markets are rigged? >> no, no. we have a great bubble economy. the managers of our economy all over the world are making it unattractive to own bonds at all. now it is not fair to say a that they are pushing stock prices up. but they are. they are. because bonds are so

unattractive way to put their money. i wonder what will happen when the bond market turns. >> that's a question, tyler. >> no, exactly. he's much more concerned about bubbles in the market than is he about market structure. always good to see virginiain's like you, me and robertson and carolinians on the same page there. >> yes. i did love the accent and the tiger over his shoulder there. he had a lot of of thoughts. we touched on a wide range of issues. i'm still not entirely clear. this is a guy who he's talking about the bubble economy and himself, his career has ridden some of these highs and lows in the market for better or for worse. i went on to ask him later about march and april and the trouble some of his tiger fund cubs had had as well. this is the issue.

>> it absolutely has. an awful lot of the hedge funds have not really kept up with the market over the past few years. it is not that they've lost their mojo or their intelligence, it is just that the markets are tricky and it is very hard to keep repeating your success through the years. >> the rest of that interview with julian robertson is coming up in the next hour of the program. he talks about why he likes google and what else is on his list. >> we've got about 14 minutes before the closing bell. the dow off 117 points and the s&p off about .9%. so what's really going on inside twitter? the shares rallying today but its coo stepping down. that management shakeout may not be over. we'll have the scoop and the details coming up. having the cloud allows us to rapid prototype a lot of ideas.

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about 117 lower for the dow, the nasdaq off .9%. and the s&p 500 is off about 15 points. in what has been a rather choppy day. keith schiff, good, as always,

to see you. we spent a good portion of this hour talking about iraq. are traders down there talking a lot about iraq today and its effect on the marketplace. >> yeah, absolutely. you could see some exhaustion coming into the market the last three or four days. in fact, we pick up a pretty good technical indicator on june 10th, a charring pattern which showed that the market has been decisive and a reversal could happen. all it was waiting for was this catalyst. appears the catalyst is this ongoing disruption we are seeing in iraq of what may actually happen from an economic standpoint and how it is going to impact some of the companies. going forward. absolutely, that's what we're focused on right now. >> keith, we were arguing a little bit about that at the top of the hour, whether it was the recent report out of the u.s. or these geopolitical issues. what makes you so sure it is centered on iraq? >> it is one of the catalysts for to us get out of this indecisive pattern. i talk to some institutional

clients and other traders all day long and that's the indicator they're pointing to the most. the indicator will come in either moderately down or moderately up. we know that. the catalyst with what's happening in iraq may push these markets. we're at a critical level with the s&p 500. it happened rapidly. it will take for us to hold 1,930 on that index right now to maintain the movement we started. >> at what point do oil prices begun to take a toll on stock prices? >> i think you're beginning to see that. we take a look at the whole menagerie of asset classes. you look at what happened in the 30-year bond auctions today, the oversubscription, the bid to cover on that was the best we've seen in some time. people are nervous. they've been nervous for some time. you can see the skittishness in

the market. some of the other geopolitical issues we've been dealing with for a couple months have simply not gone away. and now the escalating situation in iraq has people nervous that the u.s. is going to put boots on the ground again. i'm no foreign policy expert, i don't think we're going to get there, but if we do, that could be the main thrust for us to really have a pretty good sell-off in this market. >> what would it take, keith, for oil markets to pop by $20 a barrel? it was one scenario laid out at the top of the hour for something that would really cause disruption. in the constellation of likeliness, where would you place that kind of outcome? >> it would take some doing but if you put your imagination to work, it doesn't have to be that far away. iraq since they got their infrastructure back in order has been a major oil supplier. it wouldn't take too much for the entire region to get involved. one of the things that set the market on fire were rumors iran was getting involved in there.

the syria conflict and iraqi conflict have kind of melded together. what is saudi arabia going to do. the whole region is really having a big problem right now. that could really push oil up to that level that he's talking about if things were to escalate. >> a week ago we were talking -- at least some people were talking about complacency in the market, lack of volatility. today is not necessarily a volatile day, but this, today, and the events today remind me that you never can be sure where the next whiff is coming from. last week nobody was talking about an insurgent attack in northern iraq that i was aware of. >> well, that's right. trading has become much more complex as you are alluding to. you have to keep your eye on not only equities, but all asset classes around the globe, whether fixed income, commodities, both hard and soft m commodities. and also keep your eye on the

geopolitical things. we do see some consolidation happening. if you look at june 10th, it was a real indecisive day. yesterday could have been the start after trade reversal, meaning we were going to head down. we'll have to see what happens with the close of trading today. we have a buy-in balance happening right now. >> control what you can and prepare for what you can't. that's investing. keith, thanks. we'll be right back with the closing countdown. after the bell, former ambassador to iraq is going to give us his take on the deteriorating situation over there an how bad things could get. the market, as you just heard, watching closely. so is the rest of the world. we'll have the latest. back in a moment. d every minute. d every minute. but then you grow up and there's no going back. but it's okay, it's just a new kind of adventure. and really, who wants to look backwards

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bit but i would point out that the overall market is not down much. oil stocks are up quite notably. airline stocks down 5%. i'm sorry, that's a little bit of an overreaction. reason that is happening is, airlines stocks have suddenly become momentum stocks in the last year. they never were before. delta, for example, is up almost 100% in nine months! is that an excuse for profit taking on a day like today? and the high beta stocks now. s&p is up 1%. delta goes up 1.6% on average on a daily basis. so when you get those kind of high beta names, when you get a day like today, they ten to move down a lot more than the overall market. that's a little bit understandable. as of right noe nw though, tyle we've gone 39 days without the s&p more than 1%. 39 days. thanks to my producer for pointing that out. >> that's amazing. that sums it up. 39 days.

no move of 1% or more. today the s&p is .8% on the downside. i'm not saying it is trivial. i don't want it to go down at all. bottom line is we have had a remarkable period of relative calm that the vix is reflecting and the volume is reflecting as well. you would think there would be a little more concern about oil spiking up, a little more hand 2%. we haven't seen oil spike that amount in a while. that's not trivial but the overall market is taking it relative calmly. >> today contributing very heavily to what's dpg on in the airlines. >> as much of a concern about production, disruption in iraq. iraq is a superstar are in oil production. you know that as well as i do. they produce 8 1/2 million barrels a day in the u.s. you know iraq produces 3

million. we produce a million barrels in the -- the u.s. is on the rice in oil and gas production. >> all right, bob. thank you very much. we'll see you back here in a little bit as the dow launches forward about 108 points. that was the first hour of the "closing bell." now kelly evans picks up with the second. thank you, tyler. welcome to the "closing bell," everybody. i'm kelly evans. second grim day in a he row on wall street with the dow off about 110 points. the nasdaq down 34. the s&p 500 off 13. very consistent with the energy complex. let's get right to it with today's panel.

so much to get to this hour. michael, just give us your thoughts on this now two-day sell-off and how much deep ter can go. >> well, i don't think we had a lot of volume. that's not as concerning as if we had more volume. the excuse today is the problem in iraq and that problem is going to be with us for a little bit of time. the market will have nervousness and volatility to the downside will continue. i think you can use it as an opportunity to buy stocks you were watching that you thought were too high. >> what is the strategy here? >> we're seeing from our investors and from our customers on the institutional side, the money managers, they've been a happy holder of stocks. if they did any trading at all. but on the hedge guys you've seen some concern. especially now with the geopolitical risk. seeing some hedge funds through some of their core positions

while taking their spots selectively on the short side. >> michelle, you think the retail audience should follow? adjusting slightly to the geopolitical risk? >> how much reaction should there be if you're generally investing in holding stocks? what do you watch for now? >> look. i wasn't be making decisions based on what's happening in iraq. we don't think a lot of oil will come out of the market, at leaf not so far, because the insurgents haven't gotten to the oil producing areas. so oil coming out of the market, we've seen oil rise for fears of the possibility. however, at this point it is still unlikely. are we going to see sol kind of bigger involvement by the united states in iraq? wow. that would have to be a really enormous undertaking and sea change in the american public viewpoint. i'm not sure how this plays out in a bigger way in the u.s. domestic stock market other than do you sell the airlines because oil prices are going to be higher and buy oil. >> and the airline story is an interesting one to watch especially knowing the exposure the hedge fund community has

here. remember, the airlines have acted more or less as growth stocks in this market. these were considered uninvestable asset classes. today the trade reversing. the question is whether people might be seeing the end of a trend, a chance to get out. maybe they are forced to get out. >> i think there's going to be some profit taking in the hedge fund community. hedge funds didn't do all that well last year except for a few. they're not doing well this year. they'll take profits where they can find them. while iraq is something we need to worry about in the market, i don't think so yet. but if this is a problem like we had have in turkey, then this in you look at your portfolio an decide where do i want to be. >> we'll talk that out in the next block. we have some guests specifically to talk about us. couple other interesting developments in this market today, technology being one of them. jon, is it just a

twitter-specific kind of day? there's amazon launching its music server. >> tech stocks overall didn't even do that much. i take a look at my list. a lot of things were maybe up a percent, down a percent or two, low volume. twitter up a lot on this news that the coo has resigned or kind of pushed out. twitter had a history of turmoil, so interesting to see how investors on this particular day chose to deal with that. then you've got amazon coming out with amazon music. i think it seems ho-hum because it's no competitor to a spotify or pandora. then i got to play around with it a little bit, it is actually a pretty good server. will probably do the job of guesting people to buy more music, to stay loyal to prime. the gains will be in the back half of the year. new iphone, google's android software.

not a lot to do right now with those stocks. >> i think when you talk about technology you talk about the labor costs that are starting to skyrocket because of lack of skill workers in the technology space. as and veteran broker dealer, we do our best to help military veterans find employment and the skill sets they possess being in a highly technological united states military translates wonderfully to all sectors of our economy. so our returning veterans when given a chance can help fill those positions and help our country in the long run. >> that's a great one. >> i think jon's right. the second half is going to be the tech story and you really got to begin to distance yourself now for the second half. if you continue to wait it is going to be too late and you'll miss the opportunity. there are great opportunities in tech right now from a valuation point of view. you put other issues on the sideline, position some of those stocks now, the amazons of the world, apples of the world, the intels of the world, you'll be well rewarded in probably the fourth quarter.

>> we saw apple sell-off. people were, oh. then google io, google's equivalent where they roll out changes to android. they're going to talk about about -- >> what is io? >> if you want to own the internet, own google. google is the internet. >> well, unless you're talking about facebook. in which case facebook might be the internet. depending mobile, not mobile. >> people are never quite sure how to play these events. back to the developers conference, there was some angst they didn't unveil certain hardware products. they said they never would have done that kind of thing. >> these conferences are like huge s.e.c. filings where you've got to go and be able to dig into the numbers. you have to dig into exactly where apple is placing its bets. by bringing up thousands of

apis. putting new hooks into their software to allow developers to participate and build new types of products. most people don't get that. announce something that i can buy. if you're an investor you want to dig into that, learn about it and figure out if you think apple or someone sells better positioned. >> a lot of people are still going to be digging into what exactly has happened. with these markets in the last couple of trading sessions. guy adami joins us now ahead of his appearance later. that many gave you a little extra time to reflect, you guys. >> all i do is reflect. >> what's going on with these markets? is this geopolitics? should we now be sensitive about every subsequent headline coming out of iraq? >> yes, is the short answer. the market was looking for an excuse. but think about it, it's not like we've collapsed here. the s&p is down 15, 16 handles in the last day. not a big deal. what i'll say this, technicals are starting to get a little bit

concerning. think 1,816. you can come back, but it is june what? 12th? i think at some point this month we'll test 1,860 in the s&p and see what happens when we get there. unless, again, don't label me as some crazy bear. i'm not. i just think that's what the techs will set up. i know a lot of people couldn't care less about yields but the movement with tlt today was interesting. so a lot of cool stuff going on. >> we're also getting news hitting the tapes this hour. bertha coombs. >> intel is raising its guidance kelly for the second quarter. it now sees revenues coming in from 13.4 to $24 billion. they say because of the fact that they are seeing stronger than expected demand for business pcs. as much as we talk about pcs being dead, we see them in all the offices here around it is still a stronghold when it comes to the enterprise. back to you glp this .

>> this is a barometer, michelle. >> maybe we shouldn't be surprised. the chip stocks have been on fire. they've been telling us maybe that something was coming. >> jon, aren't they migrating to mobile chips? >> they actually subsidizing the mobile industry. they're not making money there yet. we're doing this window xp transition where a bunch of businesses realize they no longer have support for those xp machines, they need to upgrade. a lot of businesses have waited wait too long to upgrade. it is good they're doing it now but that does not necessarily mean that this is more than a one or two-quarter event. they want to be sure. >> are you saying that what we've seen in chip stocks is not -- >> i'm talking about intel and the fact that they've raised their guidance, we're seeing a little bit of a unique situation with business pcs. businesses wait a long time to upgrade these things. >> hang on a second, everybody. you're talking about the long-awaited upgrade cycle in the corporate space.

you could stitch this together with the moves on micron, credit suisse making some comments. if this is happening, what does that mean? >> for us and our institutional clients, what they're telling us is there's still a lock on supplies. you go to the equity markets, you look at a strong m an a activity, look at strong buyback, the ipo market has cooled down a little bit so there's not a lot of product and you see the market continue to rise. long-term despite what's happening geopolitically you can continue to see this market rice. >> economic uncertainty delays the normal replacement cycle. that cycle can only be delayed so long. this is going to follow through to not only tech but also the industrial space. cars. machinery. >> in case you missed it, this is what just happened. intel came out and boosted its view.

it now sees -- this is the jon fortt point -- some revenue growth versus flat revenue growth or about flat revenue growth for the year. just boosted its second quarter and full-year revenue and gross marg margin. we're talking about revenues in the range of $13.4 billion to $14 billion from $12.5 billion to $13.5 billion previously. we were talking about the potential for the rally of tech stocks in the back half of the year. is this something that's already priced in or could this be an additional lever to pull? >> it is not priced in to every stock. intel and microsoft are in the midst of trying to do these mobile cloud transitions and they are not as well positioned as they want to be. microsoft is trying to put the shroud at the center where windows had been the center. what this means is the pc business is actually healthier than even intel expected so they have to have more resources to pull in to making that transition. but they still have to make it. this does not mean that

consumers are going to ditch their tablets and smartphones this holiday season and buy pcs this is specifically businesses. enterprises. >> if they continue to subsidize the mobile space it is a great strategy because they're going to grab mark share, they're get consumers attached to their product, grabbing market share, then they can raise prices. >> want to leave us with a trade or two? >> on cheese chip stocks, marvel. if you look at some of these nails, look at the move in marvell recently. the adi deal. look what's going on in microsoft. not a lot of people are talking about it. this is one of the old tech names as opposed to a name like ibm which to me is rim dead. >> thanks for crashing in, guy. he's coming up with the rest of the "fast money" crew at 5:00 p.m. they'll be talking about the huge drop in shares of

>> lewilie lululemon. stocks sliding and oil rallying today as insurgents take control of more insurgents in iraq. rumors iran may insert itself into the mess where president obama says he won't take using the u.s. military off the table. former u.s. ambassador to iraq james jeffrey joins us next. a management shakeup at twitter ats as its chief operating officer steps down. investors liking the news sending stocks up today. keep it right here, you're watching cnbc, first in business worldwide.

won't rule anything out when it comes to the increasing violence in iraq and what america may do about it. eamon javers, what year is it? >> reporter: kelly, look, for a president who campaigned on getting out of iraq and who in fact ended the war in iraq, this is a very strange moment here at the white house because just within the past half-hour or so, we heard that the vice president had called the iraqi prime minister, nuri al maliki, and told him the united states tans ready to intensify its security operation with iraq. the president very of much leaving the military option on the table. take a listen to the president.

>> in our consultations with the iraqis, there will be some short-term immediate things that need to be done militarily, and our national security team is looking at all the options. >> reporter: now the white house was quick to clarify that all the options that the president said there doesn't in fact include u.s. ground troops on the ground in iraq as jay carney, the white house spokesman came out later and saying really what he was talking about here is the possibility of u.s. air strikes in iraq. nonetheless, earlier today we heard from the speaker of the house, john boehner, very frustrated with the president and with this white house's leadership in iraq. take a listen to the speaker. >> it's not like we haven't seen this problem coming for over a year. and it hasn't -- it's not like we haven't seen over the last five or six months these terrorists moving in, taking control of western iraq, now they're taking control of mosul.

they're 100 miles from baghdad. what's the president doing? taking a nap. >> a real flash of anger, as you can see, the speaker of the house just walking off the podium at the end of his press conference earlier today. clearly there is a disagreement between capitol hill republicans and the white house. jay carney responding to the speaker said look, we didn't hear any suggestions from the republican side about what we ought to do here. white house proceeding very cautiously but finds itself, kelly, as you suggest in the unusual position of contemplating the use of military force in iraq to stop this advance by insurgent forces. at the same time it has said one of its signature achievements is ending the you u.s. combat mission in iraq. >> for more, let's bring in former u.s. ambassador to the country, james jeffrey. ambassador, it is good to see you. you were there, i believe, from 240 2010 to 2012. after the u.s. left iraq, there was a sense of having put this conflict behind us. how wrong were we in that

assessment? >> we were pretty right in 2011. we, including president obama, wanted to keep a small number of troops on but the iraqis wouldn't give us the necessary legal immunities. nonetheless, the country was basically at peace and the al qaeda movement that you see today transferred to isil were nothing more than capable of suicide bombings from time to time. nonetheless, the iraqis allowed this situation to slip out of control. this has cast over not to iraq but other areas in the region. >> you're placing the blame here squarely on the iraqi administration, on nuri al maliki. >> basically. not just maliki, all of the iraqi factions, sunni-arabs, see ya-arabs who support maliki, the kurds, all perceive their own agendas. people weren't ready to make

sacrifices for the common cause. prime minister maliki and his government in particular almost went out of their way to alienate the sunni-arabs. this exactly where the isil is finding support to some degree and finding a lack of resistance on the part of the local forces. >> michael? >> what would happen if the iranians actually come in and aid the iraqis in this. is that going to preempt us from doing anything? we're not going to come in on the side of iran, are we? >> that would complicate things significantly. i think one of the arguments i used to advocate the air strikes -- i think one of the reasons the white house is splating it -- if the iranians come in, we can't do that. then we'd have a shia-sunni fight in the mid of the northeast. this is exactly what we're trying to avoid. how much help account iranians give the iraqi government right now when the insurgents are going to be encircling baghdad. the iranians don't have air power to speak of. they're pretty much tied down in syria. they could intervene to protect some of the via cities but they

really can't stop isil. >> mr. ambassador, would you recommend for these air strikes manned or unmanned aircraft? >> oh, absolutely, manned aircraft, unmanned aircraft, ac-130 gunships. you throw everything you can at them. obama knows how to do it. it's what they did in libya just a few years ago. that kind of campaign. >> mr. ambassador, is this the point where kurdistan ends up becoming independent? >> that's one of the threats. three threats in front of us are, they encircle baghdad and beseige it, the kurds say i don't want to be part of iraq anymore, and the kurds see shia being slaughtered. the only way to stop these three game changers for the entire middle east -- we're talking about as you see it in the oil price changes, our strategic area, is for the americans to come in this a big way, not on the ground but in the air. >> i understand that would change your diagnosis that this

is the fault of the administration for not being more inclusive of the sunnis. >> u.s. air pow ker not regain the sunni areas. we only regained them back in 2007 by reaching out to the tribes and doing many things to reconcile the folks there things that maliki has not done and i don't think he can do. however, what we have now is not an issue of securing the sunni areas. what we have is stopping the isio from beseiging baghdad and drawing the iranians in and pushing the kurds out. that's the game changer. >> bottom line, the oil in the south is the bottom line of the trft united states. >> bottom line of the interest of the united states is supporting its allies, as proper said in the u.n. in september, preserving the free flow of oil and iraq is important there. and lastly, fighting terror. believe me, the biggest concentration of terrorists in the world right now is driving around in iraq.

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watchers today but our bertha coombs kept an eye on all the regular movers in the regular session and after hours. >> start with lululemon's. the plummeting apparelmaker cut its outlook ending the regulation session lower today by a good amount, by more than $7. looks like 5%. different story for land's end. reported better than expected first quarter profits. for airlines though, with headlines out of iraq, oil prices rose on the escalating environment, american, you a nighted, delta, southwest and jetblue all losing ground. twitter's coo will be filled by others in manage many. basically they will spread around the duties. that's the third major shakeup

there, third major officer to leave in as many months. >> the chief operating officer tweeting his resignation writing, "good-bye, twitter, it's been an amazing ride and i will cherish the memories." for more on what's going on inside the company, kara has been following the story closely. how much of this is an indictment as some are framing it now of his decision to push in to music streaming? >> there's a few things that went on. it is not just one thing, it is a lot of different issues from the growth issues, from product innovation issues, from even the stock sale issue. it is all just grew together. it is not one thing. it is -- it doesn't get reduced to that. it just wasn't working out the way it was set up. >> i wonder what it means from the ceo. are employees unhappy in the wake of this departure? >> i think it was a surprise when we posted the story last

night that there was trouble. people had a sense of it but not really what was going to happen. think we sort of surprised them as it was moving so quickly. i've been watching this for a while, these issues, and i think they're shaken up but the ceo has to take a hand in this and be in charge of product innovation and growth. >> joann fortt, shares rallying today, closing up almost 4%. >> not sure how much that means. kara, curious on your take. twitter has a history of being pretty tumultuous at the top. do you see any stability coming? how forceful do they have to be now about picking a strategy as far as who is going to head product and sticking with it for maybe a year or longer? >> oh, there is a head of product. they just hired him from google. that's what precipitated a lot of this. >> that's what i'm saying, they'll have to stick with him now for a while. >> i hope he is there to say.

there is never a dull moment at twitter. good stuff for me, i guess. but they've got to solidify what's going on. a lot of these companies go public perhaps a little more they're mature as the management structure. by the way, if the management structure doesn't work in changing it, it is not the worst thing in the world. >> do you think maybe the reason he's gone is he promised the number would double? the underlying question is, how do they get more users? >> others have done it. number ran up to 500 million rather quickly. there are new ways, making it interesting for people, having a product that's easier to use for consumers. they have a lot of usage. it is very useful for people who use it. it is just making people understand why it is useful when there are so many other apps out there that do similar things. >> they are having trouble monetizing. >> that, too. >> i love twitter because it is

free. so i don't know how they're monetizing the ad growth. >> i think they do well about getting possibilities to advertisers and thinking up good things. they did the nielsen tv rating. the question is can they get the growth going, but they still need the growth. it goes hand in hand. they did okay on the sales part of it. they've got to really make twitter a must-use app for people every day. >> bill, do you tweet? >> i don't tweet but it is just great that he tweets his resignation. i'm glad twitter wasn't around when i was in the nfl. i can imagine bill parcells tweeting that i had been cut. >> kara? facebook has a growth team.

they focus on it quite a bit. mark zuckerberg attends those meetings. does twitter need the equivalent, not just one person but a group, a brain trust, people who really know how to think about growth? >> i think one of the issues with facebook is a product person is running that company. that's just the way it is. you always get better results if the person who created the product is actually running the company. he has a very good coo structure. that's working. cheryl shaandberg runs the business part. he's not interested in it. that's a really important thing. i think dick and some others and this new product exec have to really work together to figure out ways to get there and bring in team members like adam baeme and some others. the question is can they get regular people to think of twitter on a daily use basis, even though it is enormously useful and interesting. >> what's a "regular" person? >> like the football guy.

i don't know. >> every journalist i know uses twitter and loves it. you mean non-journalists? >> yeah. why is that so useful? >> make it a daily habit. >> everybody needs some daily habits. >> it's hard. it is all over the place. twitter is very pervasive in our culture so how can we get more people to use it and sign up for it. >> kara, great story. really appreciate your time. the bulls going cold for a second straight day. is this pullback heating up? cnbc will get you "the hot list" right after this. (vo) rush hour around here starts at 6:30 a.m. - on the nose.

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way, also going the other way. that's heating you up. that's probably one of the reasons why we're seeing more concern from policymakers. iraq is heating up global tensions and oil prices. is it burning up our cnbc hot list? c new york stock exchange editor allen wastler joins us. what's on top of the minds today? >> you said it, iraq. it's been burning up our website all day long. right now we're leading with the piece by john harwood out of d.c. he laid it out. we said john, can you wrap it up? he said sure, i can wrap it up. it's on the site right now. he's basically laying out the problem for obama in this. obama who made all these campaign promises about getting us out of iraq now faces when does it hit the point of instability that it becomes an economic threat to the united states and the united states maybe has to get involved. excellent analysis by john harwood. now i told you about the wise man effect whenever we have complicated days like this. right now we're seeing people dive into our exclusive interview with art cashin where art is talking about what the market is looking at out of the

whole iraq situation. obviously oil but he is also talking about the run-on effect on gold and on treasuries. he also had a little side note about how tomorrow is friday the 13th and a full moon and that maybe traders want to bring their lucky rabbit's foot. that's art being art. finally our third one is one of the sad stories that we kind of feel awkward doing but you sort of have to do it. it is about the new wave of products that are hitting in the wake of all these school shootings we've had. bulletproof blankets for kids, bulletproof backpacks. it is actually beginning to be a thriving cottage industry, i'm sorry to say. we took a look at what products are out there. and the arguments for and against this whole kind of thing. weird story. people are reading it and people are actually interested. those are my three for you. >> alan, thank you. coming up, my interview with the father of the hedge fund industry, julian robertson. >> what is the best run company in the world today? >> i would say google is one.

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seeing the world in reverse, and i loved every minute of it. but then you grow up and there's no going back. but it's okay, it's just a new kind of adventure. and really, who wants to look backwards when you can look forward? legendary investor julian robertson is known for his stock

picking abilities and even his so-called tiger cubs. these are the more than 30 hedge fund sensations he's created in the market today. i sat down with the tiger management founder earlier. he pinpointed his favorite stocks and, get this, he also told me who he thinks is the greatest investor alive today. >> why the belief in google from here? why this company? is it eric schmidt? >> it's the fact that the company has a moat around it that is so wide, no one can breach it. and i think it is developing new devices at all times. people aren't aware exactly where it will ever stop. i'm a big fan of google and i think google owns 20% of uber. no one ever thinks of google when they jump in to an uber.

but i think it sort of shows the advances they can make in this automatic type machine economy that we will eventually end up with. >> so do you use uber? >> oh, yes. >> really. how often? >> well, whenever i can't get a cab. >> so julian robertson has a problem getting a cab in this city. >> which is fairly often. >> so uber is worth somewhere in the range of $17 billion to $18 billion, and since that latest round of funding was announced there has been wide disagreement over whether that's too high a price or valuation or not for uber. would you invest with uber? >> i think uber is a very interesting company and let me assure you, i would invest at twice the price that google paid for their first shares. >> their first shares in uber. >> yeah. >> what about a name like

gilead? >> well, i love gilead. i think it is fabulous. it is a marvelous technology company with -- in the drug area in that they really have a cure for hepatitis c. have some wonderful aids drugs. a lot of anti-cancer stuff on the way. they're showing a great ability to buy companies at the right price. they're going to be inundated with cash from the profits on the hepatitis c drug. and in the past they've done a wonderful job with handling that cash. i think gilead is really pharmaceutical steal. >> google has its famous motto, don't be evil. do you think valiant pharmaceutical is an evil company in the sense that

detractors say what it does is buy up pharmaceutical companies, strict them of the research and development in order to increase profits. and if everybody ran like that in the pharma or health care sector we wouldn't have any future for this important industry. >> i think the valuee acheant p would say if everyone ran wild with research as some of the big companies do, they whether be taken over by the valeants and people like that in the future. >> what is the best run company in the world today. >> i would say google is one of them. >> really. under what criteria? >> well, under the criteria of intelligent people at the top doing the right things. >> who do you think is the greatest investor alive today? >> the man i respect the most in the business, and he's in the hedge fund business, is probably stan druckenmiller.

i think he's so up on things and a fantastic investor. >> there's actually more. head over to cnbc.com to catch the rest of the interview with julian robertson. choice words for bill de blasio. he hits on a couple of other hot-button issues. >> great interview, kelly. can't believe he has trouble getting a cab. stocks taking a hit for finisar. the stock currently trading down there. looks like over 9%. back to you. >> thank you. an industry on edge with violence spilling all over iraq's oil fields, including those owned by shell and exxon-mobil may be in danger of being taken over by radicals. tomorrow on "closing bell," we get ready for the season finale of hbo's "game of

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in fact since september. dennis gartman was long wti this morning but that changed as news developed. where do you stand and where do you think events will stand from here? >> first of all, kelly, i was actually long wti and short of brent coming in to it morning which was characteristically a bearish sort of trade. but the news coming out overnight of what had happened in mosul and tikrit had me go to the sidelines. i said i've got the wrong trade on at this point. sometimes the best trade that you can make is the trade that gets you out of a jam and pulling the trigger and saying i want to get out of here is exactly the right course of action. i didn't have the timerity or courage to take the bullet posture. but if i'm quasi bearish of something and come to cover it, i don't turnbullish for at least 24 hours. nonetheless, circumstances that prevail, an ugly civil war that

i think, sadly, is going to get worse between shia and sunni in what is, for all intents and purposes, the northern part of kurdistan is going to get much worse. these things tend not to resolve themselves nicely or resolve themselves in a swift circumstance and the market is concerned that the amount of crude oil we hoped had been coming out of iraq may be stopped completely and hence if you're european, you have got a problem because you are exposed to middle eastern crude oil. we have been lucky and ended most of our exposure to middle eastern crude. if you're germany, france, portugal, you have an exposure to what's going on in brent and it's going to get worse. >> i wonder if there are people saying well maybe here in the u.s. we can try to keep the price around the levels where it is today. obviously if it goes higher it could be its own break as demand goes away. who knows. maybe the price shoots significantly higher from here.

>> it wasn't that long ago we had brent trading over $20. i would find it difficult we could get there again. but i don't find it impossible. if this circumstance prevails as i fear that it might, you could do that again and take it to $10 to $15 premium and i'm going to tell myself tonight when i get back into the office, any time if we saw 50 or 60 cent break in brent relative to wti, i'm going to be a buyer and a seller of wti. >> bid for gold, maybe even a bid for treasuries here, was there something else happening in the market which will ov overwell hmm this. let me read you. quote, there's already great speculation about the exact timing of the first rate hike

referring to the uk. it could happen sooner than markets expect. that's effectively hitting the gong. >> he's following what's going on overnight and with the reserve bank of new zealand. carney was expected to say he was going to hold rates steady. this is a bit of a surprise. it makes me happy. i went home long of british bound sterling and short of yen. so my sterling side of the trade looks good at this point. it's beneficial to sterling. probably going to be detrimental to the british stock market and bond market but clearly it's supplemental to the british pound sterling. >> last thing, what does it do to the u.s. dollar? >> well, it probably means that the -- well obviously, in the past 15, 20 minutes we seen the

dollar get weak. it gives the monetary authorities here in the united states a freer hand to tighten monetary policy swiftly than we might have otherwise. >> okay. >> not going to be taken well by the stock market but will be taken reasonably well for the dollar relative to the euro for the dollar relative to the yen. >> thank you. dennis garmin. up next, the panel is getting an up and close look of a rare and pretty expensive whiskey. investing insights from a whiskey master after this. here at optionsxpress our clients really seem to

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this is how we typically spend our thursdays here on the closing bell. for those of you searching for an investment. nicholas joins us now, ceo of the whiskey dog. welcome, how much is this little sip of the whiskey that's in the bottle? >> the bottle is worth $7,000. >> this bottle? >> $7,000 for the bottle. be careful. buy the glass if you were to buy this in the bar. might cost up to $850.

>> have you tried this yet? >> no. we're waiting for you. >> cheers. >> we'll have to -- please don't cry as i down probably $100 worth of whiskey right here. >> why is it so expensive. >> wow. >> some of the things that drive whiskeys and why whiskey has become such a commodity is the fact that this is only one of 133 bottles available in the world. there are only 28 bottles coming to the usa and that makes it very rare. individually numbered. hand signed. and part of a collection. the first bottle was a 1970 which was released last year. this is the second bottle. and it will be a trio of whiskeys and much more sought after. >> it has no sharpness. so smooth. >> sipping a whiskey like this is like sliding on a super bowl

ring. >> is this a legitimate investment though? if i were sitting here as vanguard, would i recommend this to the investor? what do you think, michael? ening -- >> i don't know the jury is out. >> is that because there's no way to value it? or do you think this will be worth more in ten years? >> time will prove its value. we'll wait. >> if you're looking to invest in whiskey, be patient. whiskeys are not going to grow overnight. but if you're patient to wait 7 to 10 years, it could easily go up to $25,000, $35,000, and $45,000 and we have seen that happen. >> would it be worth more if you left it in the cast? >> no. this is in the cast. if you were to leave it longer in oak, you would end up spoiling the quality of the whiskey. what we were talking about is how smooth and elegant it is.

these because the whiskey makers choosing it peak of maturitmatu. right when you think it will perform at its best. >> i'm a value investor. i'll give you $3,000 for the bottle. >> like i said, the 28 bottles are coming. there are already 50 people that have a bottle of this and they're going to be fighting over it. >> i was going to say if interest rates are raised in the uk is that the end of the whiskey boom? are you worried about that. >> if there was a potential for scotland to be independent, it would influence the whiskey industry as a whole. i'm not a politician so i don't want to get involved. >> i don't know. you make a good whiskey. thank you so much for being here. >> thanks. >> now fast money with melissa

lee. melissa, i don't know if you guys can top this. >> probably not. just kidding. we have a great show. i'm going to spare you all the yoga puns or downer facing dog days. we have got an analyst who downgraded lululemon today. but he didn't rate at a cell rating for one reason. we'll discuss the possibility of who could buy it. >> over the you guys. thanks. fast money starts right now. live from new york city's time square. an ugly day on wall street but good news on intel, sending shares higher. get you those details coming up. but the return of the risk of market. increased violence in iraq. the ten year yield following below 2.5%. and stocks down. we have not seen this, dan,