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in our garages, plugs already, we don't need the build out. >> ben, thank you for the time. appreciate it. fun, guys. >> it's friday. >> it's friday. >> friday's are good. >> always good. >> remember, if it's tuesday, it's bull gem. >> exactly. join us on monday, but first, "squawk on the street" is next. good friday morning, welcome to squawk on the street, i'm carl quintanilla with simon hobs, and cramer is back monday. futures lower monday as we inch closer to the end of the quarter. the dow and s&p foal three out of four sessions, still hanging on gains for the june. the 10-year, at least five firms cut their estimates for q2 gdp, and we'll get michigan sentiment in an hour. nike says just do it, soccer
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fever helping the company's earns, but could momentum be up? >> ag space, dupont, shares lower in the premarket after the company cut the outlook. >> a $9 billion settlement is expected to be announced monday, and now new reports say the france bank is looking to sell off billions in bombs. >> listing on the big board listing at baba. what could be thee largest u.s. tech ipo? first up, nike earning 78 cents a share beating forecasts. dow components citing strong sales in regions like north america and europe benefits from a marketing push ahead of the world cup soccer tournament. revenue up 11 % in every region except for japan, and i love this, soccer, or global futbol revenue up 21, marketing costs up 10.
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>> there was a dig at rival, adidas, dominating the soccer business, that's its roots, nike entered in the late 1990s. we are the best brand in the wor, and numbers show they are taking market share in western europe, futures orders, everybody looks for on nike, a good indication of what's to come, up double digits in western europe, up double digits in north america. what's disappointing is emerging markets. nike is firing on all cylinders, a lot of upgrades and raising price targets to the $90 per share level. we'll talk more about nooike rit now. let's bring in paul with morning star. is that a correct assessment that nike is doing well, gaining share when it comes to europe and soccer and keeping its core running in basketball business very much going strong? >> yeah, that's what's really amaze is that they've been able to grow running, which is their
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oldest business, basketball, where they got 95% market share in the united states, growing businesses that people said they could never grow before. on top of that, the comment was interesting about the digs on soccer or global futbol. they said our leadership position in running, basketball, and football, a dig on adidas in the commentary. >> they didn't give specifics on the world cup other than the fact they are spending big time. costs up more than 20% over the quarter. adidas had record soccer rev news for the year. nike was not specific. what do you expect? >> they do that. they give tidbits of numbers to the press. adidas has a run up and more sportswear, more equipment in soccer, but nike is taking share in actual, quote, soccer boots as nay say that europe. you don't wear them on the
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street, they are cleats. >> they call them boots. >> speaking of which, i read this morning athletes wear more nike cleats than any other brand combined. anyone at least in futbol, paul, who's competitive with these guys now or is this truly a mote business? >> yeah, you know, puma is an age-old soccer brand, but they are repositions themselves to get back to sports, you know, sports branding. they are a distant third. you know, the irony in this whole thing is the way both companies grow is by growing the market, and i think the excitement around the tournament is higher than usual and market grows. >> paul, i have a couple left field questions for you. of the two, which do you think is more likely possibly to buy lulu lemon, given that for adidas, that's 260 outlets
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across america. >> it's not nike. they are killing it in women. their product is doing fantastic. on top of that, adidas has a retail strategy so if anyone in there it would be adidas. i don't know why they need the brand. >> okay, what about the nike's digital strategy? tim cook, ceo of apple, sat on nike's board now for nine years at a time when apple is clearly laump i launching wearable technology. pulling back on hardware, focusing on software. is there a tire there specific to nike with apple down the line? what do you think might happen? >> yeah, that's a great question, and i think something is going to happen. i think back in the back of parker's mind, the back of management's mind at nike, what
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they want to do is own the connection to the customer, and they see digital information, training, performance, whether it's social media, they want to connect to the customer whenever there's a branding experience, so it's not clear how that hook up's going to happen, but definitely they are talking to apple about that, and definitely the growth they've seen in direct consumer it's more from digital than in stores, and i think that's going to drive a future. >> i thought it was interesting, palm, to hear mark parker open the conference call yesterday saying digital is our priority. i do want to ask you, though, about the stock. it's under performed. the stock, before this morning, down more than 2% for the year under performing other members. why is it held back? does this earnings give it momentum to make it positive for the year and to out perform given? >> yeah, that's another important point. they had run-ups going into the
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world cup, typically spend a lot of money so the shipments are ahead of the cup. there's a hangover, but now the futures orders are up so it looks like the momentum's going to continue. i want to point out, though, we're valuing investors, look at cash flows. they'd have to perform at a low to mid teens rate for five years for you to justify the current stock price, so i think there's a little bit of upside, but, you know, it's not going to run up like it did last year so that's why we're on the sidelines right here. >> or under armour, up in the last year. thank you for the perspective. up 3% right now in the premarket. moving from one dow component to another, dupont cutting the current quarter and full year earnings forecast due to slower than expected sales in the agriculture and performance chemical unites. what's interesting here is because of the harsh winter, farmers delay purchases and
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write downs on seed inventory, whether or not that was destroyed by the bad weather, i actually don't know, i don't have color on that. there is irony with the performance chemical unit, there's spun off from dupont, as you know, david, it's too volatile because of pigments in tooth paste and pigments in sunscreen is down, but now it's in the core of the business, due to the weather. >> corn prices in north america lower, and, again, as you point out, the short fall here, if you want to call it that, is coming from weakness in agriculture. also, i know there was, i think, a jpmorgan note that mentioned they cut cap x below previous guidance there. i have not seen that specifically from the company, but interesting in a larger take away given expectations that they are the growth in the expansion of the economy, particularly, perhaps, in the second half. >> in contrast to what monsano
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had this week, lowering the profit end of the profit forecast on better than expected profit in the soybean business. interesting to watch those two. >> yeah. you mentioned the cap x thing, people are pinning their hopes on for the year, and again, the notion q1 is excused, why would q 12 be weak? raising questions and an important stock to watch. selling billions of euros and bonds next week, in conjunction with the announ announcement next weex settling with u.s. authorities paying up to $9 billion, expecting to plead guilty of charges against u.s. sanctions, trading money on behalf of sudan customers to countries prohibited by the united states. not a good week for banks in regime, it's been a rough few
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days. >> really, seriously, maybe you can help us with this, david." the new york times" suggest they will be banned from processing dollar payments. i don't know -- you should remember at the time sudan was accused much genocide, and that's why they were banning this. they outsourced that to another bank, the dollar transfer. >> that's core, i imagine -- >> it certainly hurts the franchise. there's a great focus on charging them criminally without putting them out of business. we know that. we've seen the reporting on it. i have not done independent reporting on it, simon, but nevertheless people are trying to figure out what the damage will be beyond roughly $9 billion fine they will be paying. >> to the point carl made earlier, look at a bank whose franchise, even as we speak, harmed, it is barclays after the accusation from the authorities they basically lied to clients in promoting high frequency
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traders and the dark pools. they have the second largest on the street, and we saw yesterday a number of their clients, deutsche bank, bernsteins, actually, i think, disconnecting from the dark pool. physically disconnecting. >> i got the reports in the morning on the show as we watched barclay's stock sink, and a bit of a rebound today. >> there's problems with the nyse and nasdaq, caused the dark pool to falter as technology dealt with it. hemorrhaging, staff, and 7,000 redundancies, a bad week down 8%. >> the question now is, who is next? if they investigate pools. >> what they managed to do here is get insiders in barclays telling tales. >> and the old e-mails. you'd think by this point you don't put anything incriminating
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in an e-mail, but they do. >> and chat rooms. on a lighter note, score one for the big board, alibaba listing here at the new york stock exchange. we have what could be the largest tech ipo, and we have a live interview with orrin hatch, the irs scandal among the issues they are talking about today. we'll see if the dow can get back on track. e-we're headed for the second weekly loss. more "squawk on the street" live from post nine in a minute. l... and the incredible rush... of the mercedes-benz you've always wanted. ♪ but you better get here fast... [ daughter ] yay, daddy's here! here you go, honey. thank you. [ male announcer ] ...because a good thing like this... phew! [ male announcer ] ...won't last forever. see your authorized dealer for an incredible offer on the exhilarating c250 sport sedan. but hurry, offers end soon. share your summer moments in your mercedes-benz with us.
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the big board has won the battle for alibaba, the chinese e-commerce giant decided to trade here, the ticker symbol is baba. they had a challenge handling big ipos, but expected to debut later this summer. perhaps, the first week of august when i am planning on being off. if you could push it one week, guys, that would be helpful if not into september. august 8th, though, 8 is a lucky number. >> and baba is 8. that's similar to fafa that means prosperity.
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>> yeah, in china, if you are texting good-bye to someone, you put 88 because it sounds like bye-bye. >> we are happy the listing will be here for our own purposes. the focus is going to be on ali baba and the quarter about to end. a quart yet to be reported, obviously, by the company. we did get the first calendar quarter of this year recently in an amended filing, and they reacted negatively. they sold shares of yahoo! if you recall, down sharply on that. we'll see if history holds, and, in fact, the next quarter actually proves to be a stronger quarter, the expectation is we will likely see it when they do start the road show. that is expect eed towards the d of july. it's not a guarantee, but investors hope to see it to get a good a judgment on the company as near term as they can in terms of how the growth rate is
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progressing. >> do we get to meet jack marvin? we will if he's down here. >> ringing the bell parole. that's one of the appeals, i would think, when they are choosing the new york stock exchange, you know, to ring the opening bell. it's historic. significant. >> i thought the gopro bell ringing was historic. >> a nice selfie. >> history may well be made here, could be the largest initial public offering of all time. >> with the facebook debacle, give it to the nasdaq, even if you clean up your act. >> actually, nasdaq, of all the ipos, they have more than the nyse. they raised more capital with the tech deals, but the horse race is interesting, and as menlow said yesterday, it's the concentration in the silos that is giving people pause.
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it's not well distribute. >> the offerings will not equal what baba brings to the market. the tax -- whether they do something tax efficiently here is unclear. certainly many expect what remains at yahoo! as much as 12% of alibaba and tax firgtly, tax, and that will be a key question. we could have $23 billion. we'll see. we'll do a lot of reporting and discussion of this between now and the ipo date. >> what do you sell to make room? >> it's a lot, a big number. >> the new york stock exchange and fees, and in terms of the technology ipos, traditionally nasdaq business, the new york stock exchange in the lead with tech, 20 to 16. the nasdaq is better at attracting the chinese ipos including jb.com. >> right. speaking of ipos, michael's
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is returning market after being taken private in 2006. they have the low end of the projected range, and they'll trade on the nasdaq under the ticker symbol mik. we'll talk with the ceo at 11:00 a.m. eastern time asking about the level of debt, in which this case has given people worry. >> private equity, of course, always amazed at the number of skews they have in there. you have been in it, with two girls -- >> cramer i'm sure has. >> unbelievable. >> taken private at 6 million and to the market at 3.5? >> not the way it's supposed to work. >> i'm surprised with the rainbow loom bracelet kit. i didn't know that was important to the company. that's the big hit. it's the primary driver of the
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4% sales rise recently. >> i have not been in a michael's since high school, but scrapbooking is a popular activity. >> you moved to the big city. >> you can get lost in there. >> it's a retail irgs po. last we saw was the container store that popped on the open, but steadily declined since then. exactly. talking to art cashin, what do watch as we enter one of the final trading sessions of the month, and a lot more on "squawk on the street," we're back in a minute. ♪ ♪ [ girl ] my mom, she makes underwater fans that are powered by the moon. ♪ [ birds squawking ] my mom makes airplane engines that can talk. [ birds squawking ] ♪
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just about seven minutes to the opening bell, let's bring in art cashin, director of floor operations at ubs. art, you had told us this week tends to be negative following the june expiration, and i'm told by a technician, go back 15 years on the s&p, and last two days of june have been positive three times. >> yeah. history has not been in our favor. yeah, at the rate we're going, this will be the 22ennd year ou of 25 it's been down. we'll try to pull together. a little quizzical here. the yield on the 10-year looks like it's getting set to test the 2.5 level. we'll see where equities move. >> what about liquidity? you can move things easily, seems to me, a quiet time of
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year. plus, we have a lot of ipos and secondaries soaking up demand. >> and you got a major russell rebalancing going on, covering several trillion dollars in overall assets, with estimates of $40 million worth of rewaiting done today. you're right. things a ill-liquid. volume light, under 600 million yesterday. things can move rather rapidly as we learned yesterday. >> yes. >> what about the ipo, any signs of frothiness in the market? >> not yet, but close. you remember we were crowded in the ipo area a month or two back, things got a little messy, so i think you watch for both the number, and you watch for the reaction after, the follow-through after the opening trade. not frothy yet, but worth watching. >> the point on the rebalancing, not just the russell of course,
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but the end the month, end of the quarter. for pension funds, you have to rebalance because equities have done so well, they will have sold or need to sell $14 billion of equities. i'm assuming that's not just today. that may have happened over previous sessions, and it may be why we fell yesterday. when we thought it was about bullard. >> it was a contributing factor. the bond market did not sell off. that should have happen if it was all about rates. i think there was a combination of things, but strong rumors, simon, that at least one or two large holders had begun shifting out of assets, equity assets, and that's adding pressure, and you're right, it's a factor of between now and monday evening. finally, dupont today, weak, having your doubts? >> i am concerned, and i've
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a research tool on thinkorswim. from td ameritrade. you're watching cnbc's "squawk on the street" live from the financial capital of the world. the opening bell in 60 seconds. you already know what a nutty week it's been. for a moment yesterday, dow, with a triple digital intraday climb, managed to get back a little bit and close down only 21. for the month, it has 128 points before going into the red. could be a horse race in the last two sessions. >> and that would be the fifth month in a row of gains for u.s. equities. everyone's watching the market. >> some of the cop consumption data this week not incredibly encouraging. dupont lowering guidance for the quarter and the year.
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that's going to add to some of the bullish -- bearish actions today, and that's why the premarket was weaker. the s&p at the top of your screen. and the opening bell down here at the big board. tcp international, an manufacturer of lighting technologies celebrating its ipo that happened yesterday. at the nasdaq, michael's, specialty retailer of arts and crafts celebrating its ipo today, and we'll talk with the ceo on "squawk alley" at 11:00 a.m. eastern time. moving on this news, david, taking 8.5% stake, discussion on whether or not they would split in two companies, and apparently, wisconsin has strong antita antitakeover laws. >> that is important in terms of where a company is incorporated when you want to toss the board and go to a approximaty fight.
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in this case, a well-worn path, spin off the food business for two pure play companies for the quarter. this is a company with a food business and a crane business. even, perhaps, somebody not familiar with the company say that's not the great synergy between the two, that's what relational says at this points and wants to separate them into two strong independent companies, which, of course, it believes will enable them to do lot better in terms of growth on both sides and return a good deal of potential upside to shareholders. we'll see. the stock is reacting. relational can take quite a long time with these things, but has been successful. succeeding in getting a company to essentially pull its shareholders and decide to move to split. it's been active in be
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aerospace, also splitting. >> emerson, talk about tech and biotech all the time, but old-school manufacturing is busy. >> without a doubt. i continue to think we'll see not just subsidiary sales like the one you're potentially referring there to with emerson, but, of course, a lot more consolidation, drum beat on tax inversions as well. shares of verizon this morning, that's not down very much, but you may have noted one of the lead stories this morning, the german government is essentially saying bye-bye to verizon as one of the key suppliers of telecommunications and wireless services. because of the fallout from the edward snowden revelations and
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the nsa. this is not significant, but something to watch, will result in an incredible loss of business. investers are taking it in stride, but it came up a lot when we were in -- when i was reporting on whether at&t would make a move on vodafone, and one of the reasons it withdrew from the european market as a place to conceivably consolidate, come here for the direct jp tv deal, the snowden revelations, nas, and germany saying, no thank you, verizon. >> people have not been able to pin point how much the contract was worth and whether or not it's the only one. >> who wins? that's interesting. deutsche telecom? >> all the european carriers will trumpet their ability. privacy the issue across the board whether it's facebook or google, we have to continue to think about this, what it means
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to the business models. >> more than privacy, isn't it? talking about setting their own internet structures, and the bulkization of the internet as a result. we don't want the americans to have this sort of access to what we do on a daily basis. >> broke right before the world cup game yesterday, u.s. versus germany, we know how that turned out. green mountain is not moving. upgrade from hole to a buy. gross margins increasing. target's 140, a big mover on the s&p. >> has been of the year, the biggest stand out in terms of the gainers. they have a few catalysts coming up to point to, including the release this fall of the keurig 2.0, they lost a few patents, but their partnership that they started with coca-cola, could bring other brands as well, but they are starting work, a
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factory on manufacturing, a new product for at-home carbonation drinks. we mentioned nike, michaels, finish line, finl, 27 beats by 7 cents, a growing presence in macy's, which we know is a powerful platform for a lot of retailer, and that's one of the big gainers this morning at the open as well, up 6% in premarket. >> dollar general, an announcement, the ceo, chairman and ceo, informed the board that he wants to retire and will may 30th, 2015. he's well thought of as is overall the execution at dollar general as compared to one of the competitors's, family dollar, and the significant stake is pushing to sell the likely candidate to buy, of course, is dollar general, although there's nothing going on at this point tweak the two companies based on phone calls i made, okay, a week or so old,
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but i don't think anything at this point. nonetheless, this at least has to be considered in light of that whole scenario under which there would be consolidation among the dollar stores. >> increased sales by 80% since 2008, no mean feat. that's short four or five years, doubling the sales in that period of time. >> i like how courtney reagan writes another vacancy. how many retail ceos need to be hired now? there is not a long list of names. >> there are a lot, and family dollar, i believe, still looking for a coo as well, so even within the dollar store chains, there's executive jobs available. >> i think you need a corporate jet with one of those, don't you? >> i wouldn't know. >> i wouldn't know. i'm not allowed to ride on those. intel hanging on to a three handle, upgraded over at bernstein. it's worth watching as well.
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gopro, you know, we did so much yesterday on the ipo, that's adding another, what, i think it's up to 33 here now, which is going to be almost a 6% gain. people beginning to have more conversations about the valuation after pricing at 24. >> yeah, how do you value a company that is consumer electronics, positioning itself as a media company, not making money yet. what is the evalweigh at this point up to, $4 billion for gopro? >> yeah. >> it's called a picture perfect debut. i don't know if you saw this picture this morning, at the ipo -- >> he's a happy man. he owns a lot of the shares. >> they are lucky they have the images to go with the work they do, and they make great television and they get a lot of television, helping them, did not harm them with the order flow seen yesterday and again
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today. with that, dow's down 14. bob is on the floor. good morning. >> good morning. industrials and energy on the weak side. they had a tough week. energy is a big, big market leader throughout the month and down for the week about 1.5%. watch that. the ipo tsunami is continuing, however, it's a mixed picture. the big winner today right now, so far, a carve out, operate wind and solar energy projects priced at 25, high enof the range, 23 to 25, indications of 31 to 35. energy is hot. people are looking for new energy products, and many offer very, very attractive yields. that's a winner. mixed picture, though, on the nasdaq, michael's priced at $17, that was the low end, 17 to 19. that should open at 7:30. we had mobile ad network, they
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are pricing low. that will open at 10:00 on the nasdaq. i told you days ago, 18 ipos pricing, and five biotech ipos failed to price this week. many are small and don't have a lot of big, big companies behind them that are underwriters, but five failed the price, and another one today, a farmland company, failed to price. i anticipate and talk is they will price next week. the fact they were scheduled this week and have not seen them yet is interesting. not everything is really working in the market. talking about kb homes, a sec disappointment to me in the home billing space, orders up 5%, beating on the top and bottom line and on track to beat their 2014 goals. stock is trading up, but 5% order growth? that's disappointing. this happened yesterday with lenar at 8% growth. stocks are not moving as well as last year. this is figuring into the
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russell reconstitution. notice how i moved that? russell is today. once a year, russ of indexes rebalance at the close today, and this is the day to do it. a lot of lists passed aaround. there's $5 trillion in the russell. that's important. there's move around. politics here because they've had to get involved in the whole domicile question. so, for example, liberty global being removed, they are in the u.k., removed from the mussel, and tyco is added, was removed because it was in switzerland, but the position of the russell is if the company's revenue comes from the united states, it's classified there even headquartered elsewhere. it's tricky to figure out, get involved in the politics of how to do this because, well, they have to make a decision on that. there's one. one thing more interesting is growth in value, 5 lot of interesting changes happening, primarily because the growth index had bad performers this year. a lot of retailers were
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considered growth stocks growing earnings. well, the earnings have fallen apart in the last year, and the stocks had terrible performances, bed bath & beyond. they play the style indexes, and the retailers are going out. on the other hand, a wllot of companies with value, bargain names like energy stocks, airline stocks, have had great years so far because earnings have suddenly accelerated. the value names will be put in growth categories, and people play growth versus value off, and it's interesting to see what's going on in that particular space. again, that will be at the close here. right now, next tier ya is a winner today. back to you. >> thank you very much, bob. meanwhile, the ten year yield is stronger. rick santelli, good morning.
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>> good morning, yes. very important levels, orderly trade in treasuries, and very much biassed in two years, flattening yield curves and well-bid treasury prices. look at the chart of tens. does not look that aggressive in how much activity you get. open to a two-day chart, you see we've stacked back down, maybe the best way to look at this is to consider we're down two and a half basis points on the day, ten for the week, and fives are down six on the week. there you go. there's the thereflattening in action. the last day was in may as you see on the chart. yield curves, it's important. the flattening yield curve is a surprise. so is the upside. the surprises are linked in the street, didn't look for either of those. as a matter of fact, steepening in higher rate was was the watch
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word from thanksgiving to new year's eve of last yearme menye. the fives to tens hovering two year flat, and we know the rest, but tens and twos responding. that's a month to date, a big move down to 205, a one-year tight, a one-year flat for the trade. boon yieldings, go back a year to find lower yield us because they are close to flirting with the 120 level. dollar-yen has not correlated like it did in the year. however, it is really following the treasury complex a lot more than at one point it was leading it, and you see it's moving at this point, and it's following rates, and the last chart i think is super important, pound against the dollar. we know mark carney is together with the perception of what may happen in the u.s. regarding our central bank. here's a chart of the poup versus dollar and realize we're
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very close to a five-year high on their currency versus ours. carl, back to you. rick, thank you so much. up next, what's it like to work for jeff basos? hear what the former amazon executives told david. a taste of what you'll see in this weekend's cnbc's original documentary, "amazon rising." michael's going public today, and we have a live interview with the ceo coming up on "squawk alley" at 11:00 a.m. eastern time. about speeds and feeds. it's all about latency. it's all about how fast does it run. i often sit with enterprises who ask me about how mission critical and how's the performance of the cloud. and i tell them, if you can make gamers happy, you can make anybody happy. speed is made with the ibm cloud.
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and are ready for it. make it matter. we are talking amazon today, premiering this sunday, and don't miss it. in the public, many know him as a seemingly friendly every map, but according to former amazon executives, behind closed doors, he's a demanding boss and little
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mercy for the mediocre. i spoke with two former executives who said if you were an amazon manager preparing for a meeting with bezos, you better be ready or else. >> rothman and miller says he not only invited confrontation, but he demanded it and woe to anyone who did not measure up. >> i remember one person said to me, oh, my god, i was praying i would have a heart attack so this would stop. >> that bad? >> just a meeting where they had not been prepared, and i remember at one point he said, i don't know if this is sheer stupid di or gross incompetence or both. >> yeah. >> of course, it's not unknown for a founder and ceo, certainly of the type that bezos is to drive his employees. you know, we spoke to many executives on and off camera, and they described time as the most difficult time of their career, but also the most rewarding in part because they are challenged, but they are
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also begin leeway to do things and a boss who is willing to change his mind if the data takes him there. he's hyperrational in many ways, is mr. bezos. >> i was going to say, i mean, there's a few chapters for the company, right? there was the initial stage, all getting to know them. which do you think is the most interesting so far? >> frankly, i think right now is the most interesting time, and not just saying that because of the documentary coming up. you know, i think we're starting to see public per seception of amazon change a bit, and people love the service, 240 million customers. i'm sure each of us at the desk use it. that being said, and we go into this, of course, as you might expect, warehouse worth, third party merchants who said, wait a second, amazon's competing against me, and the book battle going on, all can sort of change somewhat a perception, not necessarily impacting sales, at least not yet.
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>> it's interest to see the impact of amazon, the disruptor, how many companies are afraid of amazon? what happened with the book business, the retail business, and some of the grocers are looking at the amazon fresh and potential threat from that, and walmart is trying to chase them on the e-commerce strategy. i wonder what success rate they have, so many directions now and who should be most worried. >> they are not afraid to try and fail. bezos has not been chases it in any way or be afraid if we were by the stock market. the shares fell, but up overall 15,000 since the ipo: he's not afraid of risks, and, in fact, pushes people to do that. certain thing don't work, praps the phone won't work, but they are there ready to challenge anybody and incumbents like an anal or sam jp sung. for more on bezos and inside look of the king of retail, tune
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into "amazon rising", and, again, you have a couple days, it's sunday, 9:00 p.m. eastern and pacific. >> looking forward to it, david. >> thank you. >> are the kids staying up? >> i don't know, i have not asked them. the second half of this year, what could be key now for retail? here's what to watch in retail in the second half. the two biggest retail spending events are still ahead of us. back to school and holiday. good news is most retailers expect a stronger close to the year, but the bad news is they are up against tougher comparables. another week of back to school shopping season in the teen seg tor with money going to entertainment anticipation sports. susan anderson says the shopper is ready to upkate the wardrobe after spending on home and auto-related purchases all last
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welcome back to "squawk on the street," we are seconds away from the final read of university of michigan sentiment survey for june. the mid read came in at 81.5. 8 2.5 is the number. how does that stack up? well, look at the may final. may final was 8 is 1 1 -- 81.9, and it is below the recent high water mark in april at 84.1 6789 market in buy mode with treasuries, and that with a friday in front of the weekend may be something to pay attention to, especially at the end of such a significant month end quarter. carl, back to you. >> all right, rick, thank you very much. the sentiment numbers, whether
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it's michigan or conference board, people trying to square post-crisis highs in confidence with consumption that's a little bit disappointing. >> it's to the what people say in the survey, but what they do. >> lacking too. >> we saw that yesterday at large, personal spending down, up to 0.2 %, and strip out inflation, bigger dynamic for the economy. >> at 70% of the economy, consumer spending, this is important as we get retail earnings. earnings season kicks off july 8th. we got a bunch of them, bed bath & beyond with a share of problems. will be interesting to watch. they were to get out the deep freeze, weather better, forecasting higher, gdp forecasts higher issue and after yesterday, goldman sachs, other firms too brought down gdp forecasts. >> will be weird to get claims and jobs on thursday of next
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welcome back, we begin with the markets in the red for a second straight day, dow and s&p moving lower, and consumer sentiment beat expectations. could that turn things around? >> need a hero? gopro second day as a public company, what would be the largest ipo ever, alibaba coming, and michael's trading at any moment. ipo fever is back. >> housing home run? results from a slew of positive data pushing stocks higher. >> coming to the end of the first half of the year, what should you investment strategy be the next six months? joining us now is kevin karen, portfolio manager with the private client group, and chief
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economist where rbs. welcome to the program, and thank you for joining us on a friday morning. >> good morning. >> kevin, every has seen the way we've tracked higher than many people's expectations on the equity market, particularly over the last six weeks to two months. what happens in the second half of the year? how should people structure their investments? >> all right, well, i would look to move to places where we have maybe a little bit less love in the market than we've had recently. we look at places like emerging markets, for example. the last few years they under performed, but we expect improvement in the fundamental data in emerging markets andle data is better than it had been. those trades make sense. i wouldn't extrapolate out the last quarter or two years for that matter and assume it goes on forever. we've gone a long time without a 10% correction, and the market is at a point where, perhaps, we're due for what i call a healthy correction. i'm cautious.
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take money off the places where you are over valued. for example, look at emerging markets, energy would be another sector to look where you could find relative evaluation play, and the potential for improvement in the next three months. >> kevin, be honest about it. people watching at home now are loathed to go into emerging markets, not sure they really understand what's going on there, and they get hit with shocks from left field, and are you suggesting that the u.s. equity market is really not the place to be to the extent that it drives people elsewhere, or the margin not the best bet? >> well, i'm not saying that. i'm just looking around the world, and i'm looking for value. we have been through a five-year bull market, particularly here in the united states, so you look around, you try to find pockets of value as any good value investor would, and you're remiss to overlook the fact that emerging markets, where the world's population lives, the growth is faster, an at least
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from a long term perspective, looks relatively better priced, three, four, five years ago, people tripped over themselves to invest, pouring all kinds of money into emerging markets at much higher prices. today, you can't give it away. as a valued investor, that's the case to look at emerging markets even though it doesn't feel good. >> >> michelle, your focus on the economy, hard to ignore the bond market rights now, 250 for a 10-year treasury yield, and demand for u.s. corporate debt, monsanto sold 4.5 million worth of bonds. is it fundamentals? >> the fundamentals don't threaten it. i mean, most people after the 2.9 % contraction in the first quarter looking to rebound around 3% in the second quarterment i'm not that strong. first half of the year, the
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economy will not have grown maybe have contracted a bit. that overstates the weakness. i don't think the underlying economy is that soft, but particularly, fundamentals, they are not challenging yield levels, and we are focused on the fact at the low levels, 10-year treasury yields are attractive, higher than yields in other countries around the world. cheap on an international basis, and i think that continues to, you know, fuel demand for u.s. treasuries what looks to be incredibly low levels. >> michelle, as an economist, what can you tell us about the stock market? the allegation, the concern that came again from art cashin of ubs earlier that we were going to peak out on profit margins at some point, the record levels of earnings have to be eroded to revert to the mean, whether that's because you're going to get debt more expensive for companies, loading up on very, very cheap debt, and that's flattened margins or waging
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might rise? yesterday, although the spending data was poor in this country, we did see wages beginning to keep up again. do you think now the profit margins are at risk at these record levels? >> you know, we've been hearing that, and it hasn't really born out to be proven they've got to move lower from here. i mean, i will just step back and say, you know, the question i get most often is are we at the levels in the equity market because of fed liquidity? i just point out that, you know, fundamentals are for u.s. corporations are very strong. we got profits as a percent of gdp at record high levels. we have balance sheets strong. companies cut costs and are able to make money even in an environment where growth is only growing at best close to tren, so i do think the fundamentals, you know, continue to be supportive for the equity market. whether or not we're going to get a pull back, move higher, i'm not precise like a
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strategist, but i don't think equities are only here, you know, because of liquidity and, again, the profit margin story keeps coming up, but, you know, it just doesn't seem to bear out because of the position that companies put themselves in, given the cost cutting done in the downturn. >> amazing to watch, kevin, yes, a down day. volatility at a record low. volumes are super low. this is the most hated bull market. it is stunning to watch record after record with a wall of worry growing. we talk about the concerns. you talk about the concerns. equity flows are negative. can you afford not to be in this stock market? >> in the stock market, did you say? >> yeah, yeah. >> essentially, there's a lot of money that's going into the stock market, you're absolutely right. mutual fund flows, for example, picked up from where they were a couple years ago, but i do think there is a fundamental case to
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be made. i think when you look at what happened a few years ago in terms of the financial crisis, we fell into a very deep hole. we're still rebuilding, still coming out of that. i do know we had a slip in gdp in the first quarter, but that seems to be turning around. ultimately, it's about growth in the economy. when you look around the world, you see the world economy's grow. i think the u.s. economy's going to grow this year, u.s. economy grows next year. we are becoming more productive. all of these things are positive, but i can't get away from the fact that when you look at spreads in the bond market, hook at prices, spreads are tight. there's areas in the stock market that are rich to us, look at equities, look in the portfolio, buts expectation for return going forward from here is while better than bonds, lower than it has been. i think you just need to have a realistic expectation about returns from here going forward. >> and have the guts to go abroad, kevin, the point you made at the start of the interview. >> exactly. >> good to see you both.
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have great weekends. >> same to you. well, the dow is lower right now, but one of the stocks that is gaining in the dow jones industrial average would be nike after blowing away estimates yesterday in terms of earnings per share driven by continued strong sales growth. the stock actually up only 1.8%, up 3% in the premarket, but down for the year. go through the highlights of the nike's report, they are driven by strength in the categories like running and basketball and also making end roads in soccer. the global brand president of nike got back to the world cup in tra cibrazil, never seen suc enthusiasm. spending big. >> what happens after the world cup? >> they have a spending pipeline, foot ware releases, what they do with digital, with apparel, growing market share in places like western europe
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seeing orders up 22% for nike. that's certainly a big gain and big win against adidas struggling in its home market. china a focus for investors in the report, up 6%, analysts looked for 2%. nike had trouble with china. >> brand loyalty different in china than other parts of the world. not just futures orders. margins up, average sells price up. we talked about sneakers, how much more expensive can they make a shoe? apparently more as they add innovation and people respond. >> as someone who bought nike sneakers the other day, it's the other way around. they can hold the prices steady, but bring the manufacturing costs down. >> they are doing both. >> the shoe i bought has no tongue at all, it's a mold. i wish i wore them today. completely molded, and it's quite clearly a much cheaper
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sneaker. >> what shoe do you get? sounds like "back to the future." >> how much was it? >> just over a hundred dollars. >> was is the climate? >> i have no idea. it was cheep. it did not cost much to manufacture. fits the foot well. >> they continue to come out. this is nike, adidas territory, they are both doing this and control 70% of the market, and under armour is interesting. if you look at the scanner data from neilson, they are capturing market share. >> nike in apparel? i watched the buying pattern of my son, all under armour all the time. if they can afford it, the kids go for under armour. what's interesting is women's ware. they talked about this on the conference call, 12 % gains last year in women's ware suggesting they are taking share from lulu lemon suffering right now. >> that's not too difficult, at least for now. fascinating company to watch.
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>> don't make holes in your yoga pants, i guess. >> dow down 46, let's go to dom chu. >> market flash, green mountain, leaders in s&p this morning, up nearly 3%. upped the rate from a hold to a buy on expectations of strong sales and profit growth this year and next. the shares have a banner year, 65% since january, and more room to grow, slapping a $140 per share price target on the stock, carl. back to you. >> thanks a lot. when we come back, gopro popping, alibaba coming to the board, and jim stewart coming. we'll talk about all those names and more in a moment.
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know. happy friday. >> happy friday to you, happy to be here. >> in march, got crowded, took a toll on the market overall. where is your head on this right now? >> we're not seeing crazy earnings, high valuations kind of thing, but a healthy sign of the the capital formation process is coming along nicely this summerment companies, i mean, what a great time to raise money either in the debt markets or in the equity markets. it's really been fantastic. it does -- as i said before, it makes me nervous when things are there calm and easy that there's something on the who ryes horiz. history tells us. >> the gopro story, and you looked at the price and say, it's hyped. isn't there a bit of you that went, i'm not sure? >> yeah, yes, that's true, and you know, look, it's been investors have not been
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skeptical lately. i don't know if anybody's noticed, but the time ink spin off, everybody thought was just, you know, frankly a loser, has actually done quite well since it went public, which i thought was an interesting contrary thing. >> it's not been that long. >> in the media, oh, my god -- >> it's not a victory yet. >> again, i think in the background here there is some, you know, inflation percolating this week. they are talking about raising interest rates. i go around and talk to people, and i said, you know, raising interest rates in 2015, and then it's like somewhere over the distance horizon. >> there is an argument, actually, a former fed member should raise rates because at the moment, they are paralyzing everybody with the view that nothing's better. if you normalize the curve, business investment picked up if they thought there was inflation tomorrow or tomorrow would be better.
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>> well, janet yellen doesn't tell you tomorrow will be better. >> well, i think they have been as transparent as you can with raising rate. i think people are not believing that because of the talk of employment, oh, they push it, they don't care about inflation, that sort has been creeping into the thinking, and they care about wages and the employment situation. i don't know that that's the issue. i think it must be frustrating for the fed. they say things, and then the market's just don't react the way you would expect. >> i just want to ask you quickly before we move on from the ipo conversation. it looks like the average return on the first day of trading is at 27% for 2014 at least from the tech ipos, and ten out of 13 of the names rose more than 10% on the first day. do you see sort of distinction between the enthusiasm for ipos and the general market sentiment right now, and how unusual is that? >> well, interesting statistic. 27% is not that high.
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i mean, i think that -- in the norm around, like, maybe 10 or 15? bankers say what they want is 10 to 15, that's a very healthy, well-priced ipo, so 27 does not sound out of line. it's the hundred, the 200, the 300% that looks like a crazy market. they are taking it in stride. they always want to under price a little bit to provide motive to take the risk in an ipo. it's kind of good. >> you mentioned inflation. you were talking to me during the break how that's very little institutional memory about what inflation feels like and looks like in the country. >> i talk to a lot of investors and bring up the subject of inflation or rising interest rate environment, what strategy? i get blank stares, like, what? i really don't remember that. i have to go back and research. >> a lot of guys in the early 30 s who don't know it, period. bond traders on wall street
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lived with a seven year basically no interest rate environment. >> i remember inflation. means you get a pay raise every year. >> if you are lucky. >> to the point it actually resets everything as it always used to be, you know, house prices rise, mortgages worthless, slightly wealthier, you know, sovereign debt paid down, treasury market easier to afford. that's the normal way for decades we ran. 3% inflation was good for us for a very, very long time. >> well, 2 to 3% inflation is not a bad thing. that is the target of the banks, that is a healthy environment. 5%, 8 -- what did it get up to in the '70s? it was way up there. >> that's not where we are. >> no, no, nowhere near that, i agree. >> it's hard to control, and central banks -- >> it is hard to control. nothing like this, move it up to 2, put the brakes on, stay at. >> we're not far from 2.
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>> that would be fine, but does it go to 3? it's not happening, not trying to sell panic, but be aware it's happened in the past. there's no guarantee it will never happen again, and people act like it's unheard of, it's never going to happen. unrelated note, your column this weekend looks at lord brown, bp, interesting cultural corporate story. >> i interviewed him last week. wrote a book describing that tortured life led as a gay ceo of a company. what i found surprising is he's the first person ever at a fortune 500 or ftse 100 company to publicly acknowledge that he's gay, and after all those advances in gay civil rights, you'd think ceos especially are measured by objective criteria, financial performance. we have not had, you know, profootball players on television acknowledging they are gay -- >> look at the marriage at the state level. >> what i explore in the column,
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ahead of the new documentary, "amazon rising" premiering sunday at 9:00 p.m., we're spending a lot of time looking at amazon today. of course, it is led by jeff bez bezos, the man who created amazon. he is a hyperrational leader driven by data, one thing his company has plenty of. bezos realize the they had a treasure-trove of customer data, and i spoke to one who helped him turn it into cash. >> reporter: david, a manager, hired to maximize profits by dissecting customer behavior. he explained to us that nothing on the amazon website is left to chance. >> every single thing that happens here is a result of
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data? >> absolutely, maximizing profit for every single pixel. >> reporter: do they measure, whether i click off, and weather it matters on how quickly a page comes up? >> absolutely. when i was at amazon, we looked at this, and when when they were shopping, if it was a tenth of a second slower, we lost 1% of the revenue, even a tenth a second longer cost 1 % of the sales. we analyzed that very, very deeply. >> all about data. they've got plenty of it. michael's, by the way, just opened for trading this morning. that's not what you typically want to see. public offerings. the low en. you don't want to break syndicate. >> they had a lot of debt. that was the concern going in. >> it's funny, we were in a market for ipos not long ago
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where deleveraging exercises, raising money to a certain extent to deleverage, was not well received, and the last year, they are open to more or less anything. this is 3.7 billion in debt, and they were going to pay down debt. >> that's the way it's drawn up in private equity land, but you don't draw it up sending six to take it public at 3.5. >> it depends the degree to which they've been able to conve convert debt into shares into equity, now valuele to the company of the that's not the story of where they made the money. it's not on that price. >> it is not, although, typically, we can look at the ipos from so-called financial sponsors and see there's been a great benefit construed to them. that said, sometimes they take dividends, but i don't believe that to be the case here, over time. not to mention, of course, using leverage to buy the companies
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when they take them private, and that's why you get multiples of the actual equities they put into the companies as oppose to saying, all right, six minus 37 or 37 at 6. >> david blackstone collected a dividend last year. >> oh, did they? i have to take a closer look at the documents. >> more importantly, they own 80% of the company. this is the potential for an exit strategy in the same way of blackstone took the lodging interests public to have a second degree offering further down p line. >> of course, you'll sell down the line, and with blackstone conceivabl conceivably, what you have to do, exit investments and get out of the fund. you raise money, a seven to ten year life maybe, as much as that, and you want to start returning it. this, i can guarantee you, not one of the better investments. >> carl, it's a profitable company, posting growth, has
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over a thousand stores and calls itself the biggest arts and cra retailer in the united states. >> not like an amazon. >> depends what you're into. >> the first retail ipo since the container store. we've not had a lot of proxies for retail exits for a while. aside from market capsize, that's why you pay attention to how michael's is received. at any rate, fascinating story that amazon does not have told often, and bezos will be interesting. >> thank you. we look at any number of facets, the driving force behind the company, and as you heard as well, sort of their use of data, third party merchants, so many things to talk about with the fascinating company, and join us 9:00 on sunday. >> i want to know if it knows who i am and log and raises prices as a result. >> it does not.
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>> would be surprising if you were on an apple, part of the higher part of the market and -- accused of doing that in the past? >> there are questions to that, but to our knowledge, again, there's algorithms for everything, scraping the web for prices to compare, and you can see things change price if you click on them. >> according who pays to be there. >> your home page, should you use it, updates to what you might want to buy, but i've not ascertained they raise prices for you. >> just simon. >> yes, here's simon, jack up the prices. >> he pays anything, he doesn't know what things cost. >> that's true. >> let's go to dominic chu. >> i'm on your side, simon. not all news good today, wells fargo dropping their neutral to out perform rating based on
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google's entrance into the domain registry business, and wells fargo dropped a price target for the range on shares by just a little bit -- $51 a share. down towards session lows, off by 3.5%. back to you. >> thank you, kb homes moving higher on the beat, swinging profits, and new home sales rising. where the market is heading for housing coming up begin everything we've seen this week, lenar, and the data. ukraine signing an agreement with the e.u., and russia vowing serious consequences. we are live for you in brussels. check on the markets, losses across the board, and nasdaq positive, fractional moves, which is what we've been acustomed to during the month. we'll be right back on "squawk on the street." ♪
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are really looking right now, and, of course, this comes at a time where we already had grave threats from russia, grave consequences as a result of signing the deal at a time when we're trying to negotiate a peace deal in the region. we've had the ukrainian president come out today and say there's going to be four conditions for that piece that moscow and the rebels in the east have to meet by monday or else, and when i spoke to the president, i asked him, what happens if russia doesn't meet those conditions by that date? >> i think the cease fire expired, and ukraine will defend ourselves with the old methods we have in our disposal. >> talking military engagement? >> including military. we cannot accept the ukrainian soldiers are killing, the check points captured, and the tanks, artillery system are going to ukraine, and i'm a person of
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peace, and i use every chance to keep the peace in ukraine, but if this peace initiative is rejected by russian or others, we shall defend our country. this is very simple. >> reporter: leaders willing to meet at any point in the next few days to step up sanctions on russia. there's a sense we're meeting john kerry and you guys in piling on pressure in russia. the question is, is vladimir putin listening. deadline tuesday. back to you. >> thank you very much. watching home builder stocks because they are mixed this morning. we had better than expected second quarter profit and revenue announced by kb home before the bell, improved results yesterday, and better housing results from earlier in the week. jack, given everything from the week, can we confirm that housing is back on the up after
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a brief hiccup earlier in the year? >> yeah, consider housing in recovery, and i think investors lost confidence in the space earlier in the year when the mortgage volumes fell off, but this is slow and steady, and builders are showing that, and the other thing i think is happening because we're tight supply of existing homes for sale, the buildings are taking market share of the total housing pie because you can build a new home, move right in, and existing inventory is tight. recovery's in tact, but the trajectory is less steep than people maybe had thought. >> glad you brought up the dynamic of existing home sales and new home sales because the theme of the housing recovery is it's new for home sales to keep up with existing when it comes to competing on price with the amount of foreclosures in the system. is that changing? >> i think it's changing, what shows it's changing is national home prices are up 10 to 12% in the last year depending what service you point to, but new
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home prices are up 12 to 15. afp, average sale prices of the homes sold by lenar and kb are in the mid to higher teens, better pricing power pointing to the availability and preference differential. >> yeah, jack, how long do you think that continues, though? how long can they push prices higher as the volume comes back? we see that now albeit from the levels ticking up, and as volume ticks up, it brings the prices down, some acceleration, but at a much slower pace. >> yeah, affordability is something to pay attention to. you can't talk price without talking interest rates, and so far interest rates held in well. i think we are probably through more of the price appreciation in new home sales numbers. i think the numbers will probably tear back some and move from a mid-teens to a high to
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mid single number in the next year. that's in our models. people will push back. builders manage pace versus price and not giving stuff away for free or incentivizing, and if people begin to hit the pause button on price appreciation, they have to change the equation a little bit. it's natural to think that number, the price increases will moderate but remain positive. >> jack, what we've seen in the housing recovery is a divergence at the high end and low end, the inequality them. the high end, high priced homes sell much better than at the low end. who does that benefit with your coverage universe in the terms of the names of the home builders? >> that's a theme pervasive throughout the market, and the entry level buyer under pressure, and mortgage dollars are not flowing to them, the best name to play on the high end is toll brothers, but the people don't have a morning, they are cash bay uyers and mov
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on to retiring, and builders like horton built out a new branch with higher end home called emerald brothers, and the builders are definitely going to the demand, and the high end buyer. >> thank you for joining us last moment on kb homes up a percent. jack of the financial group. >> thank you for having me. another 20% up for gopro. another $6.47, of course, after closing up 31% yesterday on the first day of trading. that is in the middle of the session and for no apparent reason that we can see, just tacked on another fifth to its market cap. we'll keep a close eye on gpro, which as "the washington post" today said had a picture perfect debut. >> who knew.
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foods, so paneras are trying to change the way it works. this is a sweeping digitalization of the company's north american stores, looking to implement this across the board by 2016, took four years and $42 million to develop, as you mentioned, and this is what is involved, a mobile app to order on the go, and pickup without interacting with anyone. there's in-store kiosks to order and pay and the food is brought to the table for you and huge kitchen overhaul to make it more efficient. they say this improves service and cuts down on mistakes and in test stores like this one, the company finds guests ordering for themselves are likely to modify and add more to the orders pushing checks higher. >> comparable sales in a cafe like this one versus a nonpaner 2.0 cover faye, high single
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digits, higher than the other caves. we are very pleased with the results. >> reporter: they are not the only chain going high-tech. self-ordering at applebee's, and mcdonalds is experimenting, and dominos and papa johns have been investing heavily in mobile, so panera says this is not going to cut into their labor force. they will not let anyone go as they roll out the process, and, actually, analysts say it could increase labor costs implementing this at all of the stores. that might be one reason why investers are not too impressed yet, stock down 15% so far this year and consensus from analysts is a hold. back to you. >> all right, morgan brennan in massachusetts. a first look at cutting edge innovation this friday morning. cameras gained access to the
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the president when the scandal first broke. this is pretty straightforward. if, in fact, irs personnel engaged in the kind of practices reported on and were intentionally targeting conservative groups, then that is outrageous. and there is no place for it. and they have to be held fully accountable, because the irs is an independent agency, requires absolute integrity, and people have to have confidence that they are applying the laws in a non-partisan way. you should feel that way regardless of party. senator, my first question is -- do you believe that according to the litmus test outlined by the president that it has been followed? that we have seen congress or the administration interrogating or questioning the irs as to the standards first dictated by the president 13 months ago? >> i don't believe it for a second. all the evidence is otherwise.
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to all of a sudden find after a year of asking for the e-mails from lois lerner, to find that her computer had crashed containing all the important information or e-mails between 2009 and 2011 -- >> it wasn't only hers. was it, senator? it happened to coincidentally involve six other staffers? >> worse than that. because hers crashed. then they took it and said they tried to get what they could out of it, but then destroyed it. so we have no chance of looking at it, and doing anything more. then just monday, a week ago, we met with the commissioner and three of his staff people, and not one mention about the other six computers that may have crashed, and at least one computer that was very important, because it was to the chief of staff to mr. miller, acting commissioner, who basically was fired.
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so we're -- it looks very suspicious. it looks terrible. we're probably not ever going to get, be able to get the e-mails between 2009 and 2011. the critical times, and they didn't even have the courtesy of telling us about it. it was like they felt like the media would ignore it and they can just get away with this. it's absolutely terrible. >> all right. you know, there's so many areas. it seems as though -- i've seen this group of names in many publications. most recent a june 19th op-ed by kimberly straussal in the "wall street journal." i'm summarize. brought up four senators names that keep re-appearing and re-appearing and re-appearing. dick durbin, senator cummings, with regard to their staff and them, interacting via e-mail through the irs. they talk about senator schumer making sheechs we've seen
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transcripts of, they weren't happy with citizens united, weren't happy with the power of the tea party groups and wanted to stop it and carl levin as well, his staff. if the e-mails were destroyed, what about the counterparty e-mails to some of the very people in the senate that seem to have no outrage? >> we haven't been able to get total cooperation in this matter. i have to say that chairman widen, the chairman of the finance committee has been very good at trying to get to the bottom of this. on the other hand, face it, this is a mess. seems suspicious. >> when jp, month han a $6 billion error, boy, oh, boy, they all know, senator carl levin, they know how to do an investigation, extract the find, get to the bottom of it. why is not immunity thus far offered to lois lerner? makes no sense. does anybody on the hill really want to know the answer, senator? >> doggone right we want to know the answer and moist st of what
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do know is covered by 6103, so i can't really talk about it, but i was ready to put out our report, a bipartisan report with minority and majority views and then all of a sudden this happened and it's apparent we can't finish that report right away and we have to get to the bottom of some of these things but some we'll never get to the bottom of because the computers were destroyed. >> first we learned of it 2013, lois lerner, a plant in the audience, admitting so much. to think it's the president or your leader in the senate seems to be more loudly dissatisfied in extreme in his vocabulary with the tea party groups than with the terrorists. what's wrong with the senate? >> the senate is being poorly run at this time. since last july, very few votes. less than 12 votes, i believe, and on republican amendsments,
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