tv Power Lunch CNBC February 9, 2015 1:00pm-3:01pm EST
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can you assess what happened today and what you will be thinking as a result? >> you can't stop vladimir putin. obama doesn't want to know what comes after him. i would be shorting russian stocks here. the issue i have is this guy is going to become a clepto and not respect juris prudence. >> you do have the major market averages down, and we begin right now and toss it over to the new power lunch. >> "halftime" is over." power lunch" and the second half of the trading day start right now. >> thanks very much. i'm tyler mathison with mandy drury. welcome, everybody, to the new power lunch. >> ohio today. europe is it a crisis with war in ukraine and greece on the brenk, or is it a continent opportunity? >> the refinery strike grows. how it will affect your gasoline if it drags on more and more refineries go down? >> and the billionaire goes bust. it may be the biggest collapse of wealth in modern history. in the meantime, let's take a look at what's happening in the
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markets. they're a little under pressure this hour. a bit of a soggy start to the trading week. the dow currently off by 46 points. the nasdaq has gone positive though. it's up just very marginally. the s&p is down by two points at 2,053. we also begin with a major meeting at the white house over the crisis in ukraine. germany's leader angela merkel and president obama trying to show a union i'd front, but the two are at odds over whether to arm ukraine. chief international correspondent michelle live at the white house. what do you think the conclusion is likely to be based on what we heard today, michelle?
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>> we distanted idle -- have us stand idle and simply allow the borders of europe to be withdrawn at the government. >> lower on the agenda was greece, but certainly of high interest to our audience. we know that there has been pressure behind the scenes from the white house or from treasury towards germany trying to go easier on the greeks as they go through this situation, this negotiation that's ongoing. angela merkel at the very top of her opening remarks made a reference to other countries in europe, and listen to it and then listen to what she didn't say. here's how she -- >> we have made significant progress in a number of areas. we have countries who are now back on the growth path. ireland comes to mind here in particular, and also spain and talso portugal s after a strong phase of
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structural reforms they have now made significant progress. >> ireland, spain portugal, port they've all done structural reforms, and now they're on the he path to growth.o grow what she didn't say there was as greece needs to do the same same thing, but clearly that's the message that she was sending as they begin these negotiations egotia later on in europe thisti week. guys, back to you. >> michelle, thank you very much v for that. meantime, a key city in ukraine. pro-russian separatists getting ing pounded. at least two peoplee were killed in the shelling in an adjacent t area under ukrainian government an control killing at least seven seven people. one of thehe largest explosions tolosions hit chemical plant. plant. that explosion caught on tape, and people said the force of the explosion blew out windows far away. the plans made -- >> all right manned where i.ned whe the fighting continuing over there. questions now remain about whether sanctions against russia are actually working in this conflict. steve liesma n from the treasury asury secretary, swrak lew, about that tha
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in a cnbc exclusive earlier today, and, steve joins us now from new york.ork. steve. >> hey, tyler. thanks very much.anks ver as you know, treasury secretary secre jack lew is the man in the t administration charged with administering those sanctions.sanc i got to speak with him last night and asked him that very question, tyler.r. are the sanctions against russia working? >> violence seems to be escalating in ukraine. given the escalation, is there a sense right now that the currentrent level of sakes is not is no sufficient? >> actually i thinkk the sanctions are working in the the sense that they've done a tremendous -- had a tremendous d impact on the russian economy.onomy. the russian economy is not good. some of it is the sanctions have really weakened the core of russia's economy. i think that what we haven't seen is the government of russia, president putin, respond in the way that would be the reasonable way to respond which is to work to a diplomatic resolution and see the sanctions rolled back. i hope he chooses to take that
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course. obviously, the diplomatic course right now is one that's designed to drive in that direction. we are prepared, as i have said many times, if we need to to take the sanctions and rachet them either up or down. >> on what evidence does he base his views that the sanctions are actually working? he said that oil prices are down, but my sense is that doesn't have very much to do with the sanctions. >> no, and i think the russian economy is definitely having some affect from the sanctions but predominantly it's coming from oil. it shows the pictures and the severity of the conflict escalating in ukraine right now. it's hard to say that the sanctions are forefront in putin's mind when making the decision to really not just back the rebels in the eastern ukraine, but really escalate his
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support for them with more sophisticated equipment. >> the violence in the past couple of weeks seems to have gotten worse, not better. let's pivot now, steve, to greece. the country's new leftist prime minister laying out over the weekend plans to dismantle the austerity plan. enough ahs ain't he basically says. emergency meeting later this week. what did jawck lew say about all of that? >> it's obviously a key issue on his mind and something that's going to be discussed in europe. obviously the united states doesn't want another flare-up of european contagion in global financial markets. here's what he said about greece. >> i think what has to happen right now is that everybody has to tamp down the rhetoric a little bit and there knees to be a conversation where greece and all of the parties that its engaged with look for practical pragmatic ways forward which is in everybody's best interest. i hope that happens quickly. >> is he going to be going over there, and i think, tyler the
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major question, which is the extent to which lew himself or the united states supports some of the efforts of the new greek government to get out from under some of the severity of the austerity plan that was agreed with european -- the european governments. >> all right, steve. thank you very much. great interview with jack lew. mandy, over to you. >> thank you ty. >> greece contributing to some of the market volatility in recent weeks, including today. this may be a good thing. let's bring in jerry, chief investment officer at castle ark management and the chief investment officer of -- gentlemen, great to see you. ron, it feels like 2015 has been marked by this volatility whether we like it or not. how do you embrace it? >> i think volatility is long overdue. i think you should embrace, it actually. we haven't had much in terms of leadership change but i think that is really what's going to
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happen from here. normalization in the united states, i think, is going to be a different kind of leadership over the next year developing. in that process oftentimes volatility occurs. >> do you agree, jerry that volatility can be a good thing? maybe even a sign of a more normal market, and it certainly is good for active managers. >> well, it sure is, and you hit the nail on the head. the market that we've come frshg the last at least five or six years, you got paid for having some of the least volatile earnings, some of the slowest growing and some of the largest companies. all the valuation excesses in the market are packed into those big oversized companies. what we're talking about is a transition to a more normal growth path awe market that has valuations now broadening, going well beyond that top 50 or 100 names and getting to the much better faster growing
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businesses that have kind of been left behind so far in this market. that's what really excited about here because you say, boy, this long into an expansion the market shouldn't have much further to go. in fact, a portion of the market can actually go up 50% to 75% from here. >> like what? like what particular name could you be backing in that environment, jerry? >> look closely at these 10% to 15% growers. take a name like starbucks who has just kept up with the turning stroke. it could probably go up another 30% to 50%. look at a company like sh -- schwab, and you yet the stock has lange wished in the 20s and has no reason to stay here. much higher valuation is coming. we think it's substantial, and we're really just excited. >> earnings are much more a point of fundamental and much
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more important. not just a market that's been pumped up by liquidity. in that environment, ron, what are your picks? >> i think that you need to have more economic sensitivity. in some parts of staples i think you want more economic sensitivity because the economy is growing. the rate of change is going to increase going forward. you want industrials. you want technology. you want companies that can benefit from this faster growth. companies, earnings, and revenues are nominal dollars. let's focus on the nominal here, and i think we're going to do just fine. >> wonderful. thank you very much, jerry for kicking off our show. >> you can also check out jerry and ron's picks in an approving economy by going to power
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lunch.cnbc.com. you can see the stocks that are poised to do well according to those two gentlemen, and that is power lunch.cnbc.com. ty, just in case for people that didn't get it the first time. >> mandy oil continues to build on its big rally from last week, and you see there up almost 3%. west texas crude and a little more than 1% for the brent. jackie deangeles tracking the action at nymex. >> hi. good afternoon to you tyler. another big move to the up side. $1.43 on wti. a couple of things going on here that i want to break down. first of all we did get that report from opec raising its 2015 demand forecast. that's certainly part of what's moving us higher here. i want to point out that they're raising their demand forecast for their international product because they're anticipating that the low price of oil will have an impact on u.s. production, bringing demand for our product down. it's not really something that we're seeing because global conditions are changing or because we have a better situation in europe or perhaps a better situation in asia.
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in fact, you have weak trade data out of asia that leads some traders very concerned here. this might be a little bit more of this hectic that weave seen. a little psychological bounce. we are staying over $53. let's talk about gas prices. a lot of people think it's the rise in oil prices that has been impacting gas, and not so much so. certainly supportive. the unless you see a big leg lower, you won't see that. back to you. >> jackie thanks very much. dominik chew, market flash. one of the worst performing industry groups within the s&p 500 today is the airline industry group. that's on the heels of those rising oil prices. up 2.5% for wti, and disappointing numbers from certain traffic and sales metrics from the likes of american airlines and southwest. as a result, the bigger names in
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the business are taking a hit in addition to those two. sanctions are easing, and businesses are lining up. get aing piece of the action in cuba. netflix, the latest one. what cuba will mean for that movie streaming giant. plus, while oil prices continue to rise, more u.s. refineries facing major worker strikes. what it means for the refining stocks. we'll tell you that and more when we come back after this short break.
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welcome back to power lunch where are it's all been hasbro for the last year. after opening up it's climbed to a 52-week high. shares up more than 8%. they are just are not 8% today. the company is close to better than expected profits thanks to boys toys. hasbro has boosted to $46 a share from 43 cents prior. >> thank you very much. netflix expanded cuba. any cuban with internet and international pay options can use the service, and dish network debuting on-line streaming program sling tv today. microsoft bond order ballooning to $26 billion. they are expecting the deal to sign due to strong are interest from the buy side.
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microsoft is just one of three corporates left with triple-a rating. intuit on a turbo tax software. the financial software company suspended filings. you might remember that was last week to investigate fake returns. okay. we're back in the markets. stocks have been under a little bit of pressure this hour. another flare-up and tensions between greece and european creditors weighing on investors as well. let's go to bob pasani and kated rogers out of the nasdaq as well. what are traders saying at the beginning of this trading week? >> we're seeing something we haven't seen in a while, and that is low volatility. take a look at the dow. we're only in a 65-point trading range. this year the average has been 200 to 300 point trading on daily basis. that's unusual.
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i was surprised of diamond off shore cutting the special dividend. they have a huge dividend 10%. that's gone now. loofr people say they will pay that money and maybe make an acquisition for companies whose prices are way down. take a look at american. the stock is down $10 from where it was just about three weeks ago. a lot of these airlines are starting to look a little bit more attractive. father-in-law, we've got a lot of lagards today. you are johnson & johnson health care dpz companies like merck, proctor & gamble and wal-mart all lagging. >> let's go uptown to the nasdaq. kate rogers running down the big moves there. >> that's right, tyler. not too much happening at the nasdaq right now. positive for the month. off by more than half a percent. outperforming the dow and the s&p. qualcomm up by nearly 2%. one of the top gainers on the nasdaq 100.
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that comes on news for reuters that the company is likely to pay $1 billion in fines to the chinese government over anti-competitive practices, ending a 14-month government investigation. of course, aeg also keep an eye on apple up half a percent. the "wall street journal" reporting it will hold its first ever swiss franc denominated bond sale. that could come as early as tomorrow morning. also, bob and john american airlines, the biggest loser on the nasdaq 100 today. down by 4%. the airline reported lower traffic in january and also raised its fuel cost guidance for the first quarter rather. semiconductors also have applied materials all also in the red today. mandy, over to you. >> thank you very much. well, gold is getting ready to close. a big selloff in the commodity last week. prices going to go from here. we'll speak with a trader live at the cme. stick around.
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that was the intraday high. we had since the 12th of january. let's open the chart up to see the daily we are seeing that euro versus dollar on the year-to-date chart start to give up what has been a congestion zone. pay close attention around 112, 112.5. >> let's take a look at what's happening with gold price. they are closing right now. it's been another weak day for gold. it did manage to finish to p the up side. slightly at 1,241. this is, of course, after friday. it suffered its biggest one-day
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loss. currently we closed up by $6.60. joining us now from the cme is todd, senior vp. great to have you with us today, todd. january was actually pretty good for gold. people started to say maybe it's -- do you think that recent run is done? we're going to move back down? especially after the big one that we have over the wreerz. i think right now we have a short-term top and short-term because there's a whole lot of uncertainty. you look at what's happened in europe and ukraine and greece and all over the world china. there's a lot of uncertainty out there, and gold feeds on that. that as well as fear. fear has subsided quite a bit in the world, the economic political whatever you want to call them risks are still on the rise. gold, while it's on a short-term high here, probably has a little
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move to the down side. maybe around 1,150. if it gets believe that, then it will be a freefall and you are going to see people jumping on the short wagon from all over. when you say freefall, below 1,000? >> it's going to trade at least down to 1,000 before we see any real buyers. if you look at gold volatility as well that has kind of traded in the range and not suggesting there's really any fear out there. we're just waiting to see what happens. more with greece and ukraine than anything else right now. >> are you watching overseas then. thank you very much, todd. let's get to dominik chew for a quick market flash. what are you watch sng. >> mandy, todd was just talking about this idea with a short-term pop today. the price of gold set up fractionally. that's helping the mindset for the precious metal. newnont mining. you can see they're all very much in the green in today's trade. check on some of the gold mining etf's. the gold -- the market gold miners etf, the gdx, and that's the gexj. both you can see there p by 2%
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i'm sue herrera, and here's your cnbc news update for this hour. president obama and german chancellor angela merkel had their news conference earlier today. the president said a military solution in ukraine remain unlikely. where is the beef? mcdonald's reported it's cheaper than expected drop in january sales pinning the blame on the after effects of food safety scandals in china and japan. its shares have been lower on theynews. carl icon is at it again. the crane maker said the activist investor will have the option to nominate one person to the company's board as part of a settlement agreement. the top charity giver for 2014 none other than bill gates. he and his wife melinda paid a gift of $1.5 billion worth of
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microsoft stocks to their foundation. at number two was ralph wilson. he, as you may recall, was the late owner of the buffalo bills. he bekwooeted $20 billion to his foundation in detroit. you can go to cnbc.com for more details. >> caller: coming up a reminder on the closing bell. bill miller, cio. that gets underway at 4:00 p.m. eastern time on cnbc. ty, back to you. >> sue, thank you. sdmrirchlgs united steelworkers announcing strikes in two more refinery plants. morgan brennan with the latest. this is a growing issue. sdmrooilts a growing issue. over the past week we have two more names. one bp refinery one that is actually it's a joint venture with husk yir energy and this is now the largest strike of oil workers that we've seen in the u.s. since 1980. altogether the strike is now affecting 11 refineries and
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plants. we have more than a 5,000 workers on strike right now. that's talks between the union and royal dutch shell that is leading remaining at an impact. at least for now. if this continues, as many as 30,000 steelworkers and refineries that account for two-thirds of total u.s. output could become involved in this. here's what's affected so far. we have two shell facilities. three marathon petroleum facilities, three tesoro one plant, and now, of course, we have the two bp that have joined the list over the weekend. national contract for the steelworkers recently expired. we've seen six proposals that have been rejected by the union with the union claiming the companies failed to address serious concerns regarding health and safety of workers and their communities. it also wants bigger pay raises and smaller out of pocket health care payments and more work that has previously gone to nonunion labor. as for fuel output well, all refineries accept one that's
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owned by tesoro. that was already undergoing maintenance. our operating on contingency plans, production continues. this is also having little impact on the stocks as well as we see crude rally up some 10% since the start of the month. we're seeing all of these names move higher over the past week as well. tyler. >> keep your eye on it. we'll watch it for you. mandy, over to you. >> thank you very much guys. let's get back to the markets because stocks trimming their losses right now. the nasdaq turned back into the red. we're currently down by 5.0. the nasdaq you might remember at the top of the show, we were actually sitting in the green. the dow is moving to the down side by 72 points. here with me at hq is j.j. kiterhan, chief strategist for td ameritrade. chief investment strategist with bmo capital markets. great to have you with us. let me go back to what is happening in europe, j.j., and i don't want to undermine the importance of what's happening over there to europe, but are there fears about europe's potential impact on our markets maybe being overdone?
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>> i wouldn't say they're necessarily overdone, but, you know, what we've seen, mandy, is i think this level of volatility that may continue up near 20 it does seem hard to believe that bonds can maintain the return this 2% because i think as people get more afraid they're going to come in and buy bonds pushing the yield down a little bit. i think we have to be concerned because as you know well, there's no plan of the euro that does come to go away so to speak, and i think that we're going to continue to see -- >> fall apart. >> how likely do you think that scenario is giving the moving right now? >> i don't think that that's necessarily as likely as i think that maybe going to parody with the u.s. dollar. >> parody with u.s. dollar. is in a your prediction here? >> i think it can happen because there's just so much pressure on it, and people are going to continue i think to come into the u.s. >> i still have my pairty party hat from the australian dollar against the u.s. i'll put it back on. what about you brian? same question. do you think we have too much focus on europe, or is it about the right amount? >> i think it's too much from a
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longer-term and investment standpoint. remember, the last ten or 15 years we've been international investors and all been outside the u.s. any kind of news both positive and negative coming out of europe is showing these types of reactive moves, and last year everyone was bold on europe and they didn't do very well. this year coming into the new year everyone wanted europe and austerity and qe and now there's a lot more volatility. at the end of the day we continue to suggest people stay in america and watch europe from afar. that doesn't mean they should sell off their european stocks. it means they should be much more concentrated and deliberate with respect to the individual equities that they do own in europe. >> right. sustain the u.s. you were telling us just last week that this bull market right here does continue. >> it really does. we're six years into it and nobody believes me. earlier this hour you had a guess. in terms of volatility, provides opportunities, and i think we are entering into a prolonged
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period of active investing where you want to be that old school investor, where you are looking at individual stocks and companies with great cash flow and return on investor capital and consistent earnings. i think it's a longer opportunity from a perspective. >> we have a number of data points, so you can say retail sales will be the most important, right? >> i really do. retail sales show in terms of rate of employment. our people will go out and spend money now. we have rich signals from durable goods and auto sales. overall -- one of the things we saw last month was our clients go from higher beta stocks to lower beta stocks and in terms of the dividend players, go towards that overall, and --
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at&t, et cetera because of the, again, exposing themselves to u.s. stocks but in a way that has less beta. >> what you were saying about retail sales how much will we learn about that question we've been asking all of our guests? the last month or so is will the lower gas prices go out and spending as opposed to sail. >> it is a lagging indicator. the other part about that i would say, mandy is we kind of need to see that. i think it's a great measure of consumer confidence. we just saw the blow-out jobs before. we need to see something to back that up. >> we will be watching. thank you very much. >> dominik chew we're keeping you busy today. >> another market flash. >> that's right. we're watching shares of diment off shore drilling. they've staged a comeback from earlier today. after being down almost 9% earlier, shares of the deep water driller are now up more than 4%. that after it exceeded analyst profit estimates, and narrowly missed sales estimates. it also canceled the payment of
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a special quarterly dividend which has been paying since 2006. it can retain cash and take advantage of market opportunities that may come out of distressed markets here. the company will pay, though, its regular, tyler quarterly dividend. back to you. >> dom thank you very much. foreign money pouring into high-end new york real estate, but much of it is untraceable. plus the divorce that just won't get settled. more on the latest involving the billionaire harold ham and who will get the bacon. he was once one of the richest men in the world but not anymore. not by a long shot. a real riches to rags story. joan rivers' condo reaches the market today. hi, di. >> hi, ty. joan rivers once said i have stopped work and live carefully, but that's ridiculous. this apartment is a testament to that. we'll take you inside coming up next on "power lunch."
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>> that's more than 20% higher from here. now, for mother on this story go to cnbc.com/pro and sign up for the free trial of our pro pruk. it's an interesting story. can you imagine 90% of all profits in an industry. >> amazing isn't it? thank you very much dom. comedian joan rivers was awarded a post mus grammy for her spoken word allum diary of a mad divaa. it was rivers' first grammy, by the way. how about that? to the late comedian's condo hitting the market today. diana has a look.
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diana. >> well, mandy, joe rivers' favorite thing was never economize on luxury, and clearly she didn't. both intimate and over the top as only joan rivers could be. this apartment can now be yours for the bargain price of $28 million. colorful, well, that's putting it mildly. four bed sxroomz four and a half bathrooms, and yes, it has had plenty of work done. once a gilded limestone mansion, it was converted to condos in 1930s, but an exclusive nine units. ernest hemingway once lived here. it spans three floors and 5,000 square feet with a separate lower level apartment, two kitchens, a staff quarters, five working fireplaces. the real glamour though, is in the entertainment space. how could it not be? a salon, grand ballroom, and oh the celebrity parties she did have here. it makes me want to turn to these walls and say can we talk? who are the buyers for this apartment going to be? well, the agents tell thaws really the russian buyer has moved out of the manhattan
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market much more in the last couple of years. now they're seeing more chinese, more european buyers. this is a condominium, so that makes it easier for foreign buyers to fwet into the building. other than the co-opes on the upper east side. also, you look at some of the trophy buildings. $1 last night million sales we talk about. this is very different than that. again, it's smaller. it's old world but it does have an incredible amount of character. more of course, on-line. realty check.cnbc.com. you'll want to seat the pictures. >> a lot of character. she was a character. thank you. another record-setting winter storm now hitting parts of the northeast. boston has had more snow in the last 30 days than any other month in the city's history and more has arrived today. more on the way. paul goodlow is live in worcester, mass with the latest. >> we're about an hour to the west of boston. by the way 30 days is actually down to around 16 days to 17
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days. that's how much snow they've had. they've never had this much snow. we're also seeing even more notice than boston since the snow started on saturday. i've actually dug down to the bottom here, and there you go. i'm actually standing on grass right now in 28 inches deep of snow. i'm 6'5", so it might look like there's not that much snow but trust me this is above my knee here. here's the funny thing about the snow. we all know that criminals are not the brightest people, but this snowstorm actually helped the authorities here in worcester actually catch a criminal who i guess, robbed a sports bar last night. what the cops did is they followed him out the back door and they followed his footprints to a neighboring building and then caught him because they could see the footprints through the snow. again, you are trying to get away with money, walking through two to three feet of settled snow and, yeah, you could easily
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be apprehended by the authorities. the weather definitely playing a role in apprehending that criminal. again, that's why people choose a life of crime. it's not a very smart thing to do. let's talk about the snow here in worcester. since it started snowing this season, we've had over 90 inches of snow. that's an incredible amount of snow. it's almost twice their yearly average, and we're only in what, the ninth day of february. we still have officially 40 more days left. this is almost nonstop over the last two and a half weeks. >> wow, paul. that's just amazing. almost nine feet of snow so far. paul goodlow, thank you.
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you don't know who the owner is. it's more than 200 shell companies here in new york for find out who are the buyers. a lot of them russian olagarchs foreign business people that have been accused of corruption that pollution, you name it. when you crack down on the financial system to ward off this money but real estate has become this huge loophole for the foreign corrupt wealthy to bias et cetera in the u.s. question now is should we crack down on that? >> this is not a new thing. it's been going on forever. why haven't the regulators come down on this. look, dwoent want regulation. the system works fine. don't change it. i think as these dollar amounts grow more and more $8 billion alone a year in apartments priced $5 million or more in new york city. there are billions of dollars flowing into real estate. that's part of the shadow economy now. you don't know who is behind it. >> the system was fine.
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sfloor the divorce of billionaire harold ham is in -- harold ham said i am not responsible for my wealth. it was luck. that's a p.r. ploy. whatever you made during your marriage that was -- that you didn't help create that is not subject to split with your wife. he was in the very strange position of arguing that more than 90% of his $18 billion in wealth was just luck. >> yeah, but how do you quantify that? what's he -- >> well, they had experts like glen hubbard. they had all these economists who said, look, here's what the company would be worth relative to its peers in the stock market, other oil companies. anything above that has to be harold ham. that's what the other side argues. his side argues look you know
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we have struck oil in a good place. just got locky. we had good technology and good deputies underneath him that were responsible for that wealth. when love and money come into conflict. it's all about the money. >> very quickly involved. >> he once said he would be the richest man in the world. but brazilian oil tikon batista now has a different distinction. he is now a negative billionaire. >> this gee started at $30 billion and said would be the richest man in the world. he is now in the hole for $1 billion. he has a negative -- he is the first negative billionaire.
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they seized his mobile phone. i've never seen a guy go from that high to that low. >> he was in oil, right? >> as much a story about the hype in emerging markets and where that's gone as it is this guy. everyone was plowing money into brazil, and especially into oil and it all vanished. >> it was one of the most painful thing to lose, the lambeou or the phone? >> they say that's the hardest thing to lose. sfwroo yeah. >> okay. roberts, great stuff. thank you. okay. >> well, after closing this weekend due to the labor slowdown, west coast courts are open again. the united steelworkers expabding their nationwide strike for two more oil refiners for labor demands. we're going to debate that in the second hour of power.
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southwest. shares of diamond off shore drilling taking a comeback, and the consolation of a special dividend. gold up fractionally today. that is boosting companies that might be the precious melts ak' the gold miners like new mont mining, barrick gold and yamana gold. all up nicely in today's trade. well bye by the way, if you miss any of the big stories in the past hour, relax. go to mauer lunch.cnbc.com. i mean 56%. must be 86%. 10% say no. gas prices are down. 5% say they are basically flat. you have basically 86, 10 and 5. >> autonomous vehicles, could they be a threat to the auto sales? phil lal bow has that story
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just last month their own phil lebeau travelled in an autonomous vehicle audi a7. you can see him there waving to us. hello, phil. he says it was still sometime away from self-driving cars. some of the opposition may come from automakers. new studies suggest it would decrease auto sales. phil lebeau is live in chicago. explain this why autonomous vehicles will decrease auto sales. phil. >> it has to do with whether we look at vehicle in the future, and we're talking well into the future now. we're talking well into the next decade. past 2030. where vehicles are fully autonomous so they could pick you up drop you off at the hardware store and take your son somewhere and come back and pick you up. that's what they're looking into. the new constituted where i by the university of michigan released today saying we have fully autonomous vehicles on a widespread level. i mean, really widespread, it could potentially cause vehicles
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per household in the u.s. to drop by 43%. it would drop the number of vehicles in a house potentially from 2.1 where it is right now down to 1.2. the trip per vehicle would increase. basically you're getting more use out of each vehicle as opposed to parking it somewhere and then waiting for you to come out and then drive it somewhere else. autonomous drive cars, by the way, are getting so much attention people need to realize where we are. we're still a ways from that. highway mode vehicles like the one that i drove out in california or actually drove me in california that's coming in about two years. we'll see a number of automakers rolling those out. fully self-driven vehicles. we're not going see that until after 2020. here's the key point. the regulators have to approve that. tyler, if the regulators are not on board quickly, we could see this roll-out of fully autonomous vehicles take much longer than the technology because the technology is going to be there. in fact, i think the technology will be there within a couple of years.
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this is coming along very fast. >> my bet is what slows it down is not only regulators, ful but also the insurers, the liability questions here because it won't be driver error anymore. it will be automobile error. ron solomon joins us. >> i just -- you are a professional driver. what do you think? >> would you go in an autonomous car? >> because of the long commute or that i race on the side. >> you don't want to give up control of the car. >> i think you're right about the regulators. you go back. i think it's going to be further out than 2020. technology moves faster. also a lot of questions. we can't afford to fill potholes in america. how am i going to build an entirely 23450u infrastructure for driverless cars? that's what you need. then of course, the auto industry is afraid that we're going to lose cars per household. i doubt it. autonomous cars ares like electric cars all right now, let's be clear are going to be cars for rich people for a long time. >> what about this question? i saw a piece on "60 minutes" on
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the -- if someone wanted to mess up the system or target you, they could very easily with existing technology take over your car and cause it to do things you don't want it to do. for years we have heard the auto industry say you cannot hack a car unless you actually crack behind the dashboard of a vehicle and you have somebody in the vehicle and they're actually working the code inside the car. you can't hack it from the outside. but we followed up with the researchers from the department of defense that did this, but that's their job is to hack into things to show how easy it could be to hack boo it. they showed that they could control a vehicle from outside of the car. look, the automakers are not doing enough and they need to prove that cars are safe. let's face it wireless connectivity is coming to cars
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at such a quick, fast pace right now. boy is that demonstration going to have a lot of people looking at each other saying, "mad money" are we sure it's not happening. >> there can always be a first, right. phil lebeau thank you very much for joining us. that's it for the first hour of the new two-hour "power lunch." great to be with you. >> great. >> welcome. >> you and i -- can i just point out, you can hack a car with a rock and two ignition wires. don't do it. thank you very much. >> enjoy the show. >> thank you very much. well it is 2:00 p.m. on wall street. therefore, it is 11:00 a.m. in los angeles. you are watching the second hour of "power lunch." i'm brian sullivan. melissa lee at the nasdaq. she'll be joining us momentarily. your top story this hour, oil rebounding after opec said it expects demand for its oil to be much higher than initially expected. right now oil is trading up.
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as you can see, we'll get more on from jackie in a moment. we traded as low as $44 .45 a barrel back on january 28th. joining us now right from the new york mercantile exchange. what's the mood or the trade on the trading floor? >> good afternoon to you, brian. we're seeing buying pressure. we're up about $1.75. $53 .45 is where it stands. now, in terms of the mood on the floor here, people are buying into this trade. a lot of people saying this could be a head fake, and beware. citi is one of them. there are notes coming out that oil could bottom at $20, and they're reminding folks that there is an over supply issue out there. it's going to take some time to work through that supply. it's also going to take some time for those cap x cuts and recount supplies to really be implement and have an affect on the supply. that's coming into the marketplace. we are looking at a market here that is a little bit confused,
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but at least for the moment the momentum is to the up side here. i also want to talk about gas prices because i know you love that. the lundberg survey saying the average is $2.20. rising oil prices is contributing to that, and seasonal fact oz brian. we do have refinery maintenance. we do have refinery strength adding to that as well, and we'll be switching to the more expensive summer blebd. these are some of the things to consider. that $2 appears to be in the rear view mirror for now. back to you. >> and we're going to talk more about those strikes in a few minutes from the labor angle. thank you very much. see you at 2:30 with the close. speaking of oil, this news. reuters reporting that oil and gas drillers sandridge energy will cut the number of drilling rigs it has in oklahoma and arkansas by 75%. that is one of the biggest cuts that we have seen on a percentage size basis anyway. they've done well over the past month. up 67%. the nice transition into this. if you are thinking of buying oil related stocks because you think that oil will firm up or maybe the selling is overdone,
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you might be late to the party. at least for some names. look at this. we ran a stock screen are. sorting oil companies by their move off the 52-week or multi-year lows. some have bounced well off their lows. all of which were to hit on december 15th. debit energy and apache. others not so much. they're at least off the 52-week lows. thoughts on this. i know you guys at fast money have talked about oil. january 28, 2015. perhaps the stock anticipates oil's bottom before it actually happened. if you actually take a look
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which is the etf that tracks the oil stocks that primarily is integrated oil. that bottomed on 114 or it looks like it had bottom at 114. the osx, which measures oil services, that bottomed on the 29th. it's really sort of mechanicsed in terms of the equities reaction to what the commodity is actually doing. >> melissa that's the exquits will always bottom before the commodity. we got about 50% of the analysts out there, and oil -- you could get burned along with the moderatety holers if oil takes another turn down. >> especially jack jay mentioned the citi note to say that oil could go down to the $20 range or $30 range from here after it bounced so much and has the biggest two-week gain in 17 years, that's quite a statement. brian, at this point let's talk about which oil names you should consider own and which you should avoid. joining us on the phone is fidel, the senior energy analyst with oppenheimer. fidel, what is going on here 234
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terms of the stocks? can you say that the stocks primarily has hit a bottom. >> we can see that oil prices -- i think the 44 was the actual bottom. -- >> the outside still in oil prices is still much higher than down side rescue. you see the prices that can have with this year closer to 6 on. then they were closer to 40. we have seen the integrateds like an exxonmobil outperformed here, but on the flip side if you wanted a bigger beta play to a bounce in oil, you might want to go to some of the shale
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producers. where would you go? >> absolutely. a lot of companies will do better if we see weaker out of oil prices but there are smaller companies that e & p companies have done significantly better. you see companies that are being punished severely over the last six months or so. apache for example. down 35% from its 52-week high. up 25% from its low. it is now 8% up this year much higher than exxon or chevron or any of these companies. in general most of the independent refining companies did the best. on average they gained 9%. the reason being is the wider spread between brent and wti. it's a key factor for this group. >> right. we didn't hear that also from the integrated that the refining
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was very strong. we do appreciate it. >> even though oil is nearly $10 off its 52-week low from 352 weeks ago, kate, you have been working hard as always. many out there, many smart, successful oil speculators are betting that oil will move lower. >> retail investors, i should say, are stampeding to buy oil and speculateors overall, if you look at the cot numbers are generally long. many commodity hedge funds are betting it will move lower in the coming months rather than higher. they're not thinking about them being blocked in yet. at $3.7 billion, january marked five-year high for oil etf as an asset class as smaller investors bet that $45 oil would surely snap back. that influx has pushed kroid crude higher as discussed. as have cuts in capital spending. drillers and big reductions. sandridge being the most recent example. some analysts and hedge fund traders are seeing much the opposite. we've mentioned citigroup predicting oil could go as low as $20 range in a brand new
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report. even andy hall, the respected ceo of astonbeck capital that's ochbl regarded in this community as an oil bull saying it's a coin toss. whether there's enough storage to capture excess oil supply in the near term. most people do think we'll have oversupply this year. a& that it could be a choppy next two to three months before prices potentially rebound. others take an even darker view saying the recent rally provides an opportunity for corporate players to put in new hedges trerly boosting the market perhaps, but also paving the way for a lower bottom in the fourth quarter or even extending the pain into 2016. those people won't even see a bottom. >> but you are by the way, getting paid for storage. you have an economic --
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>> people are betting it will be $65. that's still not terribly high even relative to the third early fourth quarter of last year. >> all right. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> we talked about it a couple of weeks ago. the baltic dry index. it tracks shipping rates for ships carrying commodities. corn fertilizer, whatever. it is at an all-tile low today. you have a few reasons. number one, too many ships on the sea. i talked to an oil broker last week. an ocean broker. he said there are too many ships. i heard demand is specifically weak. you can't get freight rate from your freight. also 345ib lower oil prices, right? you are seeing what freight rate comes down when what they call bunker which is the term for fuel, when that comes down the overall rate to help bring the bdi down. really the trifecta ofthe shippers and the baltic dry on an all-time low. >> all right. let's get to dom. he has a market flash. >> that's right. general dynamics saying it is spiking on news. the company has announced it
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will authorize a repurchase of authorization of up to ten million shares of the company's stock on the open market. again, ten million shares. >> starting to reopen at this hour following a shutdown over the weekend. at the center of it all a labor dispute over costs. we'll have more on that story a little later on in the show, but, first let's get to courtney reagan with the economic impact of the shutdown. >> the weekend temporary shutdown has the industry righted up about the prolonged and likely continuing impact of congestion. as the dockworkers continues through a so far nine-month gridlock consultant firm curt
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spellman estimates congestion could cost retailers as much as $7 billion this year. $37 billion in 2016 thanks to the increased cost of transport and sales due to stocks. a shutdown but, of course, it seems much worse and wider reaching with more than half of the nation's imports. the national retail federation manufacturers estimate a ten-day shutdown could cost the economy more than $2 billion per day. michael, john idle, said the additional transportation cost hasn't been a material impact on financials yet, but warning that it could take a hit as cost rise going forward. it ships in east coast which has extended transit time by three to ten days. supply chain strategist frank says retailers may be a
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near-term winner. they have built in the cost of air freight into that -- so sthe don't feel the hit. back to you. >> thank you very much. >> joining us now on the cnbc newsline, susan anderson, vice president of fbr capital market. susan, when you look at the rye tail companies that you -- are there any in particular that maybe hit worse than others because of what is happening in the ports? >> yes. most of our retailers put in some contingency plan, either shipping for other west coast ports, moving everything to the east coast or putting in extra air freight. i believe there are a couple of coverage that is don't have anything in place because they did expect the west port issue to improve after holiday. one of them being ann taylor as of the end of the third quarter. they're one of the fewer that didn't really put any contingency plans in place. it could be catastrophic for retailers, including them.
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i think they could also be -- >> how far out are we literally fa some of the stores you go into a mall, you go into the store, and they're not -- they don't have some of the key items that people want to buy. how about inventory do they have now that supply chains have gotten so much leaner? the port strike, does it matter more than it used to? >> exactly. yes. i think it's not as bad as holiday where, you know if you don't have those goods there for the holiday selling season particularly before christmas, you can guarantee you're going to have to mark them down after christmas. i mean, the spring, though, delay of two to three weeks. it could sell through the spring season like march and april. it does mean that they could lose sales as other competitors say they have contingency plans and -- >> we haven't heard from most of the retailers and earnings season so far. is this just the excuse for them to miss their quarters? >> i think it's going to be a case by case basis. if you put in place some plans
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and maybure not as impacted i think you could probably work your way around. for some others i think it's going to be an exclusive, and i don't think a lot of this is priced into the numbers out there right now. i think we should see some lower numbers as we go into 2015. >> all right. susan, thanks for your time. susan anderson fpr capital markets. snoo here's the menu for the rest of this hour of power. >> we have five analyst calls that you need to know about just for you, america. coming up right after this.
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welcome back to power lunch. taking a hit down by 6% fueling a 52-week low earlier in today's trade. analysts over one of the securities downgraded stocks to a sell rating from a prior hold. they also slashed their price target to $17 from $30. citing i lack of pricing power and a stronger dollar for the domestic sales and foreign tourists. bank of america also downgraded the stocks from underperforming of abercrombie have dropped 30% over the course of the last 12 months. back over to you. >> all right. thanks. >> count-counter point. we pick the topics, and you decide who is right and who is
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wrong. which do you agree with? let us know at twitter at melissa lee@krst nbc and@sully r nbc. >> analysts are issuing a rare criticism of the oracle of omaha over the quality of the financial did hes closures of brookshire hathaway. they said buffett rejected the criticism saying that brookshire communicates all the relative factors for a long-term investment of shares. wron about you, but these analysts sound like they're complaining. you know what, are you getting all the information along with the rest of the street. live with it. if you can't model it in then you have to live with it. >> stocks up 32%. both a shares and the b shares. things have been just fine. i think if things turn south for brookshire hathaway, then you might want to agitate. right now keep your mouth shut. warren buffett keeps making everybody money. >> we fwrae odd that. who is right? who is wrong? >> we're both wright right, brian. >> are you ready for this? samsung. new smart tv getting buzz in all
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the wrong ways because many of the smart tvs come with voice recognition. that allows to you make commands to your tv. however, sounds cool. samsung is warning customers that every word is being captured and recorded. in other words, they might be able to listen to what you, melissa, are saying on your couch in your family room. >> doesn't creep me out. are you saying anything that samsung will want to hear? think of all the data they're going to collect. do you honestly think they care about what you are saying in your living room? >> i am deciding how to answer that depend on the time of day and whether there was an adult beverage involved. amazon has kind of the same thing with their voice recognition. let's just be clear. you have microphones now inside of your home, and i think that everyone talks about the internet of things. i think this could do some damage to the multi-billion dollar market we're expecting. we'll see. industry standards, securities safeguards and practices in all
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of their smart tvs. what it means is you don't want your conversation to be captured, turn it off. >> i read there was an industry standard make-up. >> last up on the agenda did you see the new sports illustrated swimsuit edition cover? >> no. >> lies. take a look at this. derek jeter's girlfriend hand kwa davis, but some are questioning whether the cover is too lewd and, in case you don't understand why it might be perceived as too lewd, she's basically pulling down her bikini bottoms. what do you think of that? >> what? >> brian we're on tv. >> i think sports illustrated has been dipping into this swimsuit market, so to speak for a long time. pardon the pun. they're going to have to push the limits in this day and age. melissa, you got to push the limit. >> i think it's just fine. >> thank you. >> quick programming note, by the way, s.i. swimsuit model
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hannah davis will be live on squawk on the street 10:45 a.m. eastern time tomorrow. remember this super bowl ad? >> tell me what you love about your son. >> i love -- >> why free hugs and phone calls to mom just meet not cut it if you are mcdonald's investor. up next, what mcd's really needs to do to turn things around. power lunch returning after this. what makes it an suv is what you can get into it. what makes it an nx is what you can get out of it. introducing the first-ever lexus nx turbo and hybrid. once you go beyond utility there's no going back.
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>> i'm sue herrera. more from bernie madoff. the trustee liquidateing his firm says he is distributing another $56 million to his victims bringing the total pay-out to more than $7.2 billion. try, try again. space x on tuesday will launch its rocket with a u.s. satellite intended to watch for threatening solar storms. poor weather conditions canceled the launch today. deloitte and tushe has -- sheas the first woman to become a ceo of a major u.s. accounting firm. >> do you have an extra $28 million to spare? that's how much the lav irk and
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beautiful penthouse that was cost -- the four bedroom four and a half bath condo spans the top three floors of a building on east 62nd street in new york city. you can see more of it by going to cnbc.com. coming up on "fast money" at 5:00 p.m. eastern time former nfl quarterback brett favre is involved in a new social media project. that's your cnbc news update for this hour. back to you, melissa. >> the final oil trades are costing. >> just under $53 as we head into the close here. we could hold on to that real strong momentum that we hilary clintons and we did talk about the report saying we could see oil bottom at $20. that is actually kind of saw a little in the table today. at the same time i think the reality is setting in to traders that the story about supply
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right now may not be as they are understand it and that there could be more on the table to work through than people are really sort of you know, wrapping their arms around. the closing price today just around $53. back to you. >> thank you. >> time for street talk where every day we have five analyst recommendations working to find opportunity for you. we kick it off for you in harris, a couple of upgrades on the back of a deal by -- for $4.75 billion. >> adjusted a buy from neutral. drexel hamilton was also up to buy from a hold. it was also a $90 target. they say, listen this is a multiple of nine times expected earnings, and they believe with the combined company they could have free cash flow of maybe more than $8 a share. >> cornerstone on demand. another one we're watching rsh the target ahead of earnings. they're actually seeing an uptick in in the fourth quarter. >> the guidance too conservative
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on the name. >> it's 33. they see about 30% up side to the stock. the stock, melissa, needs help. it's down 55% from last year. >> ouch. >> and this is a strong one. century aluminum, somewhere p morgan says to sell. it all has to do with commodity prices coming down zoosh you wonder if it will fall on the tin ears of investors. it's cut from an underweight. cut to 17.50 from 20. that is 25% below the current price.
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that would be columbia property trust. >> morgan stanley upping from an overweight to equal weight. >> about 15% up side. the stock pays a 4% dividend yield. keep in mind though, only three analysts cover this name. >> well mcdonald's down about 1% today after releasing a mixed january sales report. the headline here is that global sales fell nearly 2% making it the latest quarter of declining sales at the golden arches. what does mcdonald's need to do to turn things around? tim, cnbc's restaurant start-up joins us now. tim, i don't know when the last time you were in a mcdonald's was, but what do you think they have to do? >> well, it's been a little while since i have been in mcdomed's, but you look at mcdonald's, and i feel like all the time mcdobld's has come in and redone the way their dining rooms look or they've tried to make it more modern and they seem to be deflecting the issue here that i think would really benefit them, which is taking their buying power their
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ability, their brand power to really get behind what people are wanting to do right now with food which is, you know nongml foods, sustainable ingredients a little more organic into their product. people are coming to mcdonald's to eat the food. they're not coming there to sit in a chair. i think sometimes they have missed the boat of where american diners are especially, which is they just want to know where the food comes from and why. i think if mcdonnell's does that and advertises that, you know, they're pulling on people's heart strings, which is great, sf when i was a kid, a ate at mcdonald's too, but now we want to -- we need to get behind the food sxb able to represent the food and show that you are able to do that. they need to change their atmosphere as opposed to a place that we feel like needs to be wiped down with a jibt hose and be clean. make it more -- just a more
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restaurant atmosphere. why doesn't mcdonald's get a culture that says hey, you can create a career here at mcdonald's. we stand behind our food. we stand behind our product and how great they are for you and your family. at the same time we're going to offer you opportunities to really move forward in the food world. as opposed to being a job for 16-year-olds. >> those are a lot of great ideas. you see a lot of start-up ideas. if it this concept came across your desk today would you fund it? >>. >> that's a complicated question. would i be able to have four million -- >> the concept of the hamburger with the two pickles on it on the bun and the chicken mcnuggets? >> you know that particular concept i don't think is a bad thing. it's just the way that the food is processed. i think that is the most
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important thing for me. s looking at today's modern world and the way people dine, they want to know what the food is. yeah, a burger with two pickles and some griddle size diced onions, there's nothing wrong with that, but the product itself immediate to be defended better. you see that and what's happening when they have somebody reporting to have expired meat. that right there that problem solved could have solved the whole quarter drop in sales. that's just what i see. >> i think what you need to do is get caught in a vicious cycle
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that says, oh well we have to be able to serve the 99 cent burger. do you really? that's really the marquee question. or can you have a value menu that is $4 instead of 99 cents? the people that are beating them up right now, aren't serving 99 cent burgers. >> it's a real pleasure. thank you so much. >> take a look at some of the peer companies. you look at chipolte swrak in the box, wendy's. they are all moving to the down side. the overall market may have something to do with that, as does rising gasoline prices. also, just keep in mind that for a lot of these fast food stocks they've had a huge run on this idea, brian, that of course,
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sfwlimplgts welcome back to power lunch. now, separately united steelworkers expanded their first nationwide strike to two more bp refineries. that brings the total refineries on strike to 11. could labor unrest hurt the u.s. economy or help it by raising wages? let's join in now with dan mitchell, senior fellow at the cato institute, and author. phillip, i'm going to begin with you. why do you believe the steelworkers and the port workers are using right now as their team to reassert the labor power? >> well, he think there's a couple of separate issues going
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on. >> there's some specific issues going on there. this is a sore smallish union. it's separate now from the afl-cio. it feels a little embattled, and it feels like it's protecting some of the last in america and it's time to stand up for its workers where. >> all right, dan. what do you make of the strikes? in theory whether or not labor management wins any particular strike should be irrelevant to the economy. if labor wins well, less money for shareholders. more money for workers. if management wins, the other
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way around. it doesn't hurt or help the economy unless unless, a union, particularly in an industry with high fixed costs, manages to impose work rules and pay and compensation schedules that undermine international competitiveness. that's i think what happened to a good degree with our steel industry with our auto industry. i have no swrokz to unions winning the battles, but they need to keep in mind that if you bankrupt an industry or make it uncompetitive in the long run ewe really tugt cutting your own risks. >> can you actually view this maybe as a positive sign for the u.s. economy because maybe if you don't like the unions and you see what they're doing as distasteful, whatever, they obviously feel like they have bargaining power which would imply they feel the companies they're working for or with are making enough money that now is the time to strike. >> the economy is back especially manufacturing. you need to have a little more
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the last thing i want to say is income inequality which after all our labor biggest issues are in the public forefront and most folks agree with labor. >> we have inequality there. we're looking at the strikes, looking for higher wages. maybe they'll get them. let's take that, though, and expand it out just a little bit. is there anything that really the government can do from the income and labor inequality problem right now? >> i view it as more of a consumer issue where a lot of what we decide to spend our money on is how you are going to pay these people more because if i go for cheap every time they can't sell goods and services at a high cost. >> well that's part of my concern about unions pricing certain industries out of the marketplace. here's my problem. if the unions really put income inequality after a top issue instead of growth, i think
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they're hurting their members. they're failing their fish responsibility. if all we're concerned about is reslicing a shrinking pie, sort of like a southern european stagnant economy, that's not good for workers in the long run. we should be focussing on how we can get back to 3% to 4% growth. that's where you get tight labor markets and tight labor markets is how you -- >> my point is how much is this resting on us the american consumer. if we always go for the cheapest products, it may not be made in the united states. instead of looking at the government or labor, we say don't we owe it to spend a little bit more, right to keep your neighbor employed or give him or her a raise. >> it's not them. >> i don't think that's the case. i think that you can have a lower cost product simply because you are more productive, and there's really a lot of positive stories to tell about
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productivity and manufacturing and the u.s. economy and if we do things to say reduce our incredibly own russ corporate tax rate and our depreciation schedule so we get more investment, what does investment translate into? productivity? what does productivity translate to? wages. it's not a question of having cheap workers in america. if you can point me to low product and sales prices and high wages, i love to see it. >>. >> they don't make anything in singapore. dan, we'll continue this discussion another day. guys, thank you very much. >> if to power lunch.cnbc.com. >> well three a's sounds like a pretty good report card, doesn't it, but in this case the a's are amazon apple and alabab arks and there is a reason that we have lumped them together. the closing bell kelly evans with us live. these are huge issues for one guy named bill wilson, and our discussion will be coming up
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investors, including 700 million from himself have piled millions into the new fund, but new data out today shows those in flows may be slowing down. morning star says that janice global unconstrained bond fund, that's the name, attracted 58.6 million dollars last month. down sharply from the $176 million the funds took in last december. the $770 million last november. >> in the meantime, bill miller, the big interview of the afternoon coming up on cnbc's closing bell kelly evans is live at the new york stock exchange and we're also joined again by ameritrade j.j.kinihan. we teased kelly the reported card that i never got. the three a's. this is alababa, apple and amazon. is he just working alphabetically through all the holdings, and did he pick these out for a reason? >> i think there's a reason behind this. i don't know how much to give away, by the way. i think we got to wait until we hear from bill himself. i can tell you, though on a couple of these -- one is limited up side. one might have more and one has
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a ton. i'll let people try to guess what those will be. >> well, kelly, you got to ask about alabab because that's been an underperformer. they're investing in a phone to kaut create the ecosystem along the liens of an amazon, and look how well that worked out with the amazon fire phone. >> right. mount st. helens yashg as you know bill has been a contrarian on the amazon name. amazon has not been doing the right thing. it hasn't done enough to increase profits. obviously it took a hit last quarter. i believe they'll tell us more about this and they took that as an opportunity to unload more and think about the company's past generation will makenect 1200
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you know, he does not think that energy companies necessarily are that attractive right now, that the new normal, if you want to call it that, will be low oil prices and not continued low bond yields. >> and the one thing i would say, kelly is that the dollar becomes so much more attractive with what is going on in greece right now, et cetera. i think you may see more of a clamoring for dollar as we have more uncertainty elsewhere.
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>> i hope if he brings up low oil, please remind him of the work we did 25 years, monthly averages. the 2014 dollar adjusted price of a barrel of crude $48 over the last 25 years. so actually we're a couple bucks above the historic. we have this bias because oil it be at 100 bucks a few times. oil is cheap. actually it's a couple bucks more expensive. >> brian, are you throwing in the towel? i thought you were bullish on oil. >> i have been dragging by butt through the frigid of north dakota. >> it was over $70 -- i'm sorry, the fourth quarter. >> i am pointing out the $25 year average price is $48. oil is not cheap if you look at the last 25 years. >> investors make decisions based on the past year. that's the bottom line. >> or the past second. >> that's the bottom line.
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>> if they're a computer it's the last millisecond. >> as people focus on areas of opportunity right now, there's a cup cover of the economist this is an interesting topic with guys on a longer term view like bill miller. curious if these are guys are who are looking out for shareholder interest. we're in a different era than the 1980s and there has been too hoarding of capital. >> lots to talk about, kelly. thank you. thank you, j.j. you can watch bill miller with kelly evans in the 4:00 hour of clel. >> let's get to kate kelly with an alert on citadel. how are they doing kate? >> just out from ken griffin the founder of citadel talking about their performance in january. interestingly, they're up nearly 3% in their multistrategy fund in january which was a month when the s&p was down 3% and the average hedge fund per hfr up half a percentage. they say that given their very
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good per forpformance in 2014, they will have a lot of flexibility doing some hiring with a focus on equities which was a star performer last year. they'll be hiring analysts associates, portfolio managers. a couple word from griffin about the current tone of the markets. he said we approach 2015 with vigilance while market conditions remain uncertain. a half decade of unprecedented government intervention and monetary stimulus continues to impact the global financial market. so always interesting to hear from him brian given how much money they manage and looks like so far they're off to a good start. >> and it's a rare piece of news that does not involve a divorce. >> that has been dominating the headlines in chicago and elsewhere. kind of a market perspective from ken. >> kate kelly, thank you very much. >> thank you. "house of cards" meet bay of pigs. it's only been a few weeks since the president opened cuba and netflix set to make its move.
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welcome back to "power lunch." i'm john harwood in washington. we've been expecting for some time that the obama white house will seek a new authorization for military force for the fight against the islamic state in syria as well as iraq. reuters is now reporting that authorization will come by wednesday. i have not confirmed that independently with congressional aides, but this is not
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surprising and most importantly, guys, it does not mean a decision has been made to put boots on the ground. there is still a determination by the administration not to do that. >> big news. john, thank you very much. i'm sure we'll get more as the day goes on. meantime, netflix starting to offer his service in cuba, but it isn't going to be easy. >> brian netflix is launching in cuba today starting at $8 a month. it aims to offer a range of content as internet access improves and credit and debit cards become more widely available. c. everett hastings saying he's hoping to bring a cuban content. but the current market for netflix in cuba is tiny. just 0.05% of cuban households were broadband subscribers in 2013. and $8 is a lot considering that the average cuban earns just $20 or less a month. many cubans access content
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through underground services paying $1 per tv series. netflix saying in a statement think of this as a sign of our confidence in the reforms in cuba and that loosened restrictions on the u.s. businesses will lead to rapid investments in the country. it says it can deliver it's service on slow networks thanks to adaptive streaming and it faces skepticism about its latin american launch and it was there the lack of credit cards rather than infrastructure that slowed that launch down. brian and melissa. >> thank you so much julia. tonight on "fast money" at 5:00, we'll talk about qualcomm. are we witnessing the bottom in qualcomm with the $1 billion fine in china and also brett favre social media entrepreneur? >> what are you going to ask mr. favre? >> how do you pronounce his last name.
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>> he has the side burns now. >> hattiesburg mississippi's own, brett favre. >> thank you for watching new "power lunch." head to power lunch.cnbc.com. >> welcome to the closing bell. >> u.s. stocks lower because of things far outside of the u.s. china's economy a concern and the situation in greece is causing some investors to seek a safe haven today. after the huge gain in the dow of last week, this is probably somewhat expected. >> given the turn of events in greece, it's surprising the markets have held up reasonably well. the place to watch and a lot of people are looking to italy and some of the others to try to figure out whether we go back to the crisis trades or not. >> not
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