homebuilder d.r. horton, new orders jumped 10% from a year earlier and that stock also up about 2%. we'll see whether we get 7 out of 8 on the averages today. they are indicated higher. make sure you join us tomorrow. "squawk on the street" is next. >> good morning. welcome to "squawk on the street." this hour an exclusive with united airlines ceo oscar munoz, his first since undergoing a heart transplant in january. meanwhile, it is the busiest day of earnings season so far, oils pretty steady. we are now on the june contract. verizon's profit in line, travelers with a miss and american express beats by a

dime. there is a lot to get to this morning, jim. what do you want to tackle first? >> i think we have to first just talk about the fact that this is the overwhelming day. people are going to be making judgments and they're too quick. people already decided to hate verizon and hate travelers. i think the most important this evening i'm seeing is the continued increase in oil, which is driving stocks, and a return to something we haven't seen in a long time, which is if you don't do as badly as we worry about, your stock goes up, american express. >> that's the classic example this quarter, right? >> when i go over what they said last night, they had a jump of 5% to 6% new revenue growth and they added new cards. frankly, they just didn't screw it up. verizon and travelers have been perfect. >> i can't speak travelers, i can always speak verizon. verizon shares were up 12% this

year or more. it's been a power house in what was a difficult period for stocks. it's still been benefiting. as for the quarter, it was okay. the revenues came in below at least some analyst estimates for what they would be. ebidta margins were fine or better at 60.5%. subscribers and post paid, everything looked to be pretty decent to jim's point. the call i was on but it was just their prepared remarks. want to get to the q & a and hear about go 90, their streaming service and what might be down the road. yahoo! want to hear about the union negotiations. you know, want to hear a number of other things. there are plans on bond issuance to get back to where they were in terms of their credit rating

prior to the huge vodafone debt issuance they did. it was okay. >> let's contrast that with union pacific. you look at union pacific and frankly there isn't a single line that is good at all. calls down 40%. the stock is up because they cut so much cost. this is the railroad version of american express. it's so bad it's good. it's the last bad quarter. this is what's been driving bank of america. but driving jpmorgan even, goldman sachs. and the consistent, whether it be coca-cola yesterday or pepsico, which was fabulous, people don't want those stocks. utilities. they don't want those stocks. they want companies that report really bad numbers and cut costs

so amazingly if anything good ever happens, then you will see number go through, which is why united is interesting and as oscar munoz. because they don't have it yet. >> they do have passenger revenue, miles down. >> munoz has been dealt a bad hand. hooves dealt a double bad hand. meet immediately he has a heart transplant, fortunately successful, he has a successful challenge to him from people from the outside out of nowhere. do people want that? no. they wouldn't want southwest. >> revenue growth is strong. i don't know what the stock is doing. i think in the early going it was looking up. >> this is an earnings period where i think people are completed confounded. arguably the weakest banks bank america in terms of numbers. that stock sits best in terms of

percentage. >> all right, so you're making the point which is people are going for the worst, hoping they go from worst to first -- >> yes, freeport every day. a lot of this is because people feel we got some edge, we got oil. underarmor is saying kevin klein, the first quarter equals all of china. steph curry. you think he's big here? you think he's big here? they've got $1.3 billion in steph curry shoes. >> there's a shot of riyadh where the president is expected to take at least a couple of questions from the media. as soon as he does, we will take that live at the gulf leader

summit talking about a number of issues from yemen to isis to iraq. but, jim, you look at claims today, again, lowest in 73, gm and the margins, they're guiding in north america. >> get those numbers when you get 4% gdp growth. i would tell you that these are numbers plus the unemployment plus where the bonds are saying, i am even saying, listen, things are better than expected. they're not much better than expected but they are better than expected than it looked two months ago when it looked like the end of the world. i think we should prepare ourselves for the fed to do something. >> it wasn't the end of the world but the underlying trends are what they were now except

maybe to china that i know you argue is better. i'm waiting. >> the los angeles call they said january february good, march bad. all i'm saying is we have a thaw going on, whether it be the ipo market, whether it be the fact that you're seeing oil up so much that you have to believe that the great crash of high yield debt -- >> financing markets are wide open. look at the french based cable company in the process of buying cablevision. they were able to sell high yield debt and they were lining up for it. these guys are running a leverage ratio far above what anybody in the industry does. amazing. >> what changed in your eyes to make it something i thousand would not be able to raise money for, people are clamoring for. >> but this is not anheuser

bush. >> no, it's not. i agree with you. and there was a period where we were focused on unleveraged ratios and it can cut both ways but then that ended and we're back to where we were, high yields looking strong. even companies you might question to a certain extent some of their underlying strategy. >> bhp's ceo made a statement talking about steel saying it was -- >> it's always like that at a bottom. it's never because there's suddenly not enough and too much demand. the demand in china, 1.3 million barrels more than we thought. when you look at the suv numbers that phil lebeau pointed out in china, china is doing better.

kfc, i know the -- holy cow. that yum corps, i wish the ceo would do the call after the numbers. there's enough good in china. so i don't buy that. i buy the fact that thanksgiving are better. and it almost look the only place that it's not better would be the places that were so pos probably not going o get the okay on this muscular dis fee. what people want are deep silicone they beat on revenues. remember we've got honey well and ge tomorrow. maybe that's the pepsico of

industrials. mabb that happens. >> maybe. i do want to continue to focus in part on non-gap records reconciliation. there are so many adjusted numbers that i think it is becoming more of a story and at some point you may season the regulatory agency seg the united, for example, they includes included maintenance business and they be cloo that was an important component of expenses. >> morgan stanley had a list of companies where the gap is widest. near the top is like a celgene, expaidia. that's become being more of aing point. >> a lot of what i regards ak the let's go on but we're going

to keep a closer eye on that. it's an issue and it does get to the relevance of the actual numbers we are getting or at least working off of. >> level playing field. you have some companies that are reporting thanks they're doing. we're going to get caterpillar. it has always been like here, open kim own owe. they could use some kind of -- >> kind of a bit of an overload here. i will point out that network, communications and cloud service now, these things are still on

fire. hark back to yesterday, intel, where i still believe that they're the two companies and one company is involved with the internet of things and involved with networking. they are so strong, it's hard to believe that google could be disappointing. another team, currency -- they're still acting as if the dollar is very strong. that sets up for a good second half for a lot of these companies. networking, if you gont have it, i mention that because microsoft is cloud, ent net, no longer pcs. those are of house said -- who said let's deliver to the 399 compared to last year.

they told us earnings were going to be flat compared to last year. you can see the stock is down 2.5%. they are not giving revenue guidance, they're giving ebidta guidance and sticking to it. they have employed thousands of employees to take on the work and they still see good momentum on sales coming in. so no financial impact in the second quarter unless it drags on. >> wire line is not that good. >> margins were good here. i think this is again part and parcel with this new world where it like, all right, tell me something i don't know. you got to just blow it away if you're one of these stant companies. and they did not. they did good. >> they did fine. a lot of guys and a lot of people have had a great run with verizon. there are some people getting short the stock heading into these earnings and pair it off with at&t and long vz. >> i've been talking to some people behind the scenes with

this, dish versus directv. talk about something that's not gap. get affiliated with the nfl. >> yes. >> meanwhile, central action today, ecb, mario draghi says he sees rates at current levels or lower for an extended period and that risks to euro area growth remain to the down side. he said it's essential to preserve appropriate accommodation as long as needed, try to keep alive the actions than he did first and the last month, this is a quarter, by the way, that has been completely dominated by how the linearity

of the quarter has been. january okay, february, march good. march good. europe. i've never seen this. mabb this is just the new world but every day seems how was yesterday? it was good, let's by the stock. how was the weekend? it was okay. sell the stock. honestly, it is day to day now. people are judging people on a day to day. >> and it's also the earning. >> i'd love to hear what the president has to say about this. >> let's go to riyadh. here's the president of the united states. all those guys working the mikes all that time and no audio. >> well, we got a ton to say. >> we'll way to see if they fix

it. obviously we want to hear what he has to say this morning, whether it's about geo politics or oil. the i.a. saying supply balance by nks yeext year. >> the united states, when you lose money on almost everything you drill, bakken no good. >> wti is back up to 42, 43. back to the president. >> about gulf partners being free riders and iran and saudi arabia should share the neighborhood. i'm wondering if and your meeting you feel like you've eased any of those tensions if that was your goal and if you could point operation -- do you feel that --

>> the fact of matter is that friendship and cooperation that's existed between the united states and gulf countries has been consistent for decades. during the course of our administration and these are countries that have extensively cooperated with us on counterterrorism, on curbing the financing of terrorist activities. they are part of the isil -- counterisil coalition, that has made and as we come to this meeting in part because of the collective efforts of the members of the gcc, we have a new government in lebia that is very nascent but has the

opportunity finally to organize itself in a way that woo haven't seen in a couple of years. that would not have happened had it not been for the effective diplomatic pressure that was applied by all the gcc countries, as well as the united states and united nations. in yemen we now have a sensation of hostilities that allows us to build a peace process that can relieve the suffering of the people inside of yemen. that would not have had it not be the go so what is true between the united states and the gcc, sass true with all of our allies and friends, is that at any point in time there are going to be differences in tactics. and part of the goal here, as

well as the meeting, is to make sure that in the on do we share a broad common vision of how prosperity and stability and peace are achieved in this region and how we counter extremist activity, but that we have knowledge of what each party is doing on an ongoing basis. i think it is no doubt true that when we entered into the negotiations with iran around the nuclear deal, it and we don't look away in their destabilizing activities and we've seen iran do what they were supposed to do under the deal and the threat of an iranian nuclear weapon is greatly reduced but what we've also seen and what the gcc has

seen, is our tned cooperation, for example, interdicting iranian -- when the region is so fraught with so many different challenges is the need for more consistent constitutional liesed because the possibilities of misunderstanding increase when there's so much activity taking place. i'll give you one last example. inside of iraq there are understandable concerns about iranian influence in the iraqi government at a time when the iraqi government is also critical for us fighting isil.

it was or or important how do you fight against isil and and while acknowledging that are there problems as far as governor instability within baghdad, that's a reason for us not to withdraw but to get more involved in helping to stabilize areas like an bar where we've cleared out ice yil but the towns lef governing have been -- >> well, you can tell they have fixed a microphone but it's clearly not the president's microphone. they're trying to get his sound from him from far away. not really working. we'll come back to this if they man and it that a little more clear and the white house points out they are launching new high-level dialogues to adjust

to low are oil prices as the saudis start to look to edebt markets. >> it would be an enormous coup for hover the underwriters are. >> i thought they laid like the $40 price i think because it drives out u.s. pr they have a bloated expense structure and the fact is they could be great ow owes, i mean, they could make the second quarter for some company. >> do you agree? >> yeah. even at selling 5% they said they could raise -- i mean, the numbers are astronomical.

>> wow. geez, out of nowhere -- look, these are strategic issues the president is discussing. >> by the way, i'd love to see that prospectus. think they'd really like to disclose stuff? i don't know. >> there are going to be some gap issues you'd never believe there. >> do you think drilling is one of those one-time-only extense. >> when we come back, we'll gel get united airlines exclusive interview with oscar munoz and new highs for 2016. back in a minute.

all right. we're going to take this straight to the opening bell, which we've been doing a little bit lately. but you know what, we got a mad dash. in fact, you might have time for

two. >> let me give you negative stuff about mattel. they were down 7% international. this is a tale of who has disney and who doesn't. hasboro has disney and mattel doesn't. mattel has reverted to its old ways, they use salesforce.com. i don't know. barbie down 7% overseas? >> hasboro was larger than mattel. mattel came back. now they're almost equal. there was a time for many, many years where mattel was far larger. >> this disney relationship, there's just more and more in the pipelines. more big movies. >> for hasboro. >> yes. >> i try to talk about the notion that it's so bad, it's good.

you look at union pacific. coal was down 43%. volume down 34%, revenue per car down 13%. auto, largely mexico, good in terms of car load, but bad for revenue per car load. industrial down 18. and look at this stock. what this says is if we can make this kind of money with this environment, what happens when china comes back? what happens when coal finally bottoms out? that's how can you get this very counterintuitive move because otherwise you would think union pacific would be down 10% on these numbers. >> sachs said they still think coal will remain ahead when they go to 16. >> they had powder river, which is actually the better coal. let's contrast this with united. i mean, united did not do a

great job. if you didn't do a great job in this environment in costs and you didn't blow away the revenues, then your stock is being left by the wayside. so i contrast union pacific with just miracle work are aers and , the dissidents, they have a point. i feel oscar was targeted before he got a chance to fix it. >> that's true. he wasn't even on the job -- >> he was on the operating table. he was in rehab and they decided to go after him. when you look at the numbers you say, listen, maybe up need some help. in the interview he talks about these guys can add a new executive chairman but this is a tale of you've got to cut costs. when you cut costs and revenues are okay k-- >> transports are out of

correction finally. but trucking has been a little gloomy. >> there is a claymation death match. cummings comes out and says buy. bear says sell, saying north america is going to be not good but piper went to china and piper is saying that there is continued improvement in china, this improvement in china story other than las vegas sands continues to be another underlying current of the first quarter. it was up for almost every single day. yesterday it was down. >> american reasonable associates, operator of dialysis clinics. a biotechnical company celebrating its recent ipo. you mentioned a thaw in ipos.

>> that that there was interest in it. still 75 cold -- when the ipo market has been weak, when they -- when they got to thaw out the ipo market, they give away some these deal. -- it's almost like that the issue itself is giving a little away here. >> right. >> and it's just an extraordinary thing because, wow, i didn't think you'd get a pop on that deal. but they're giving you good prices. retail, by the way, is continuing to be a challenge. but we got a number and this is a setup -- >> i saw you tweeting about the mall, the death of the mall.

>> death of the mall. but you know who is not in the small, who is stand alone? >> tractor supply. >> how did you know? >> i pay attention. >> tractor supply higher traffic, better gross margins and one of the great lines on a conference call i have heard -- >> tractor supply -- >> i told you it was going to be great again. this is my favorite line from greg sanford "and a little help from mother nature." what does fan stanley works say about home depot? mall, if you're in the mall, you're going to get mauled. >> with a "u." >> and my accent makes mall

sound just like maul. >> i want to get to viacom. always good to do a little branding. viacom and dish, viacom shares down sharply in part on concerns as of midnight last night, the viacom network, comedy central, nickelodeon, would no longer be on dish, they would be blacked out. yesterday a conference call on which the ceo of dish made comments that were more positive saying last week i would say my impression was i didn't see a path with viacom. i think the tone on both sides for viacom and dish has been more productive through the

weekend and this week so there actually probably is a pathway to continue carriage. i can tell you this morning, they are very close to a deal. you may see that deal see the light of today by the end of he can retrade a deal 100 times in ten minutes iffy he wants to try but if viacom is successful, as does appear to be the case in signing up dish for another long-term agreement, it will have signed up over the last year at&t direct, charter, viacom, mediacom. it will have those networks on all the imagine platforms. now, whether or not they can get the ratings to justify the advertising, whether or not they'll have has many eyeballs

watch thos at the very least they can say, hey, we reuped, there was enough interest and demand to resign deals -- we'll see. it could be any moment that we p we hear viacom and dish have entered into a new long-term arrangement, jim. it doesn't take away from the troubles at viacom and the separate issues having to deal with mr. redstone and the terrible fighting, infighting that seems to go on within his close family. >> can't they get along? >> no, apparently they can't. >> cord cut. >> and it doesn't go past the performance in stock and the incredible compensation during this period or why they didn't see the need to re-sign john oliver when they knew john

stewart or colbert were all leaving. all the missteps they've made. if they have this done, i'll ton. -- it seems out of line. >> it seems out of line. john malone pays his ceos incredibly. you it can at the stocks over the lafive years and a lot of people made a lot of money. >> i believe personally -- i look at some of these stocks -- no, i look at viacom and i think that does not have the assets. time warner does have better assets. it's almost like you want to set it up short viacom and long -- there is a baseline of work

there. >> it's krin incredible. the compensation in media is incredible. >> we should have gone into media. should have gone into media. >> let's get to rick santelli in chicago. rick? >> rick be better -- lots markets doing lots aggressive things and whether you believe underpinnings of the fundamentals or not, there are so many things j -- yesterday when our interest rates started to rise it was past the trading session of bund, at least in the big trading areas. the relative value trade was all about oversea rates pulling us down. guess what? like every mountain there's one

side but there's always the other. our 10s started yesterday and bund made about 4 to 5 basis points up on that 7 basis point widening the other day. we may be leading rates back up. let's look at a little bit larger picture. we're only in the 22, 23 start but it wasn't that long ago when we were testing the respot. -- we can see on an intra year basis, it's doing better. but this is one trade that's kept you on the straight and narrow. it's been accurate as of late that mario draghi at least for the moment doesn't have a whole lore more to shoot at the market. back to you. >> thank you very much.

when we come back, jim's exclusive interview with oscar munoz. dow is down 19 points. don't go away.

i want to bring in a very special guest, oscar munoz, president and ceo of american airlines. you're just an unbelievable thing to come back after a heart transplant. i want to address that right up because you were challenged immediately by dissidents the moment you got back. what is it like to have all this on your plate at once? >> hey, listen, it's kind of what we do. i feel terrific. i'm so blessed to be back with my united family and dealing with my investors, it's our job to listen to them and work with them and i think we've come to a resolution with that whole group. >> it's clear looking at the numbers and i was going over the numbers of those that have reported so far. your numbers are not as good as the others so far. what can you do to improve the numbers? >> the good thing that the proxy

issue is behind us, we can get to work on those issues. you're right, there have been some lagging results on our company. we had some great customer satisfaction, the best in our recorded history as a combined company, we've done some great work with on-time arrivals so operationally and customer facing issues continue to do well. your point on the board, i think they can do a lot frankly. we've really reconstituted the board with some great experience across technology, innovation, certainly the airline experience that's important, i have some great financial presence from investors. i think that combination will be really wonderful as we develop our game plan and strategy going forward. >> when you look at the numbers versus the other companies, it true you've got some houston exposure that seems a little weak because of oil. i want you to talk about that and talk about the dollar.

i understand, 90th anniversary, you've got a great workforce. what can happen to make it so your stock is better than the other guy's? >> it's again about running a great airline for our customer. we have cost and infrastructure issues difficult to deal with. from my perspective, we have to work on the revenue side primarily. we've lost some customers. we need to rebuild the trust with those customers and get them back. that involves where we fly, how we fly, the service, the product level but most importantly, i think it requires the absolute direction and focus of 85,000 people and my priorities from day one have been to resolve our labor issues and show the love and respect for the professionals that actually run this airline. >> let's address another issue that's a little bit different that you're again trying to nail down what's different united versus the other guys.

you have more china exposure than any of your peers. what's going on in china right now? that was something i really loved about united versus the or guys. >> we just started having flights in china. we have a big international play and that's an area we have to focus on. what's happening in china is what happens everywhere, economies rise and drop. it's a big international play for it and we have to at united win on the international side. >> let's step back. there are issues about corporate governance that are front and center. you had activists who say you're not doing a good job. you had the even gotten into the job. how do you work with these people given the fact that

you're really trying to do do it run a agreement between the parties, running a good airline is an absolute focus and objective. titles aren't important to me. at the end of the day, i think the two new members that we've added are terrific a technology and innovative per expect plus the three we have done, lighthouse, jim kennedy is a terrific long-time presence with constitutionalin vestors. i'm going to miss some of our board members that are leaving certainly because we had a great run but at the end of the day i think working together across that whole spectrum, employees and our management team very well.

>> i know this is graes. >> what's the difference between running a railroad and running an airline? >> well, the passengers freight on the airline is a little more vocal than the freight i had at the rail line certainly. but at the end of the day, the pride, the loyalty and the professional itchy had both on the railroad side as well as the airline side i think are very similar. i think from my perspective it gives me a great in-depth knowledge of the labor situation, works the same on both sides. there's a lot of complexity on both. at the end of the day i believe mass got to be about the product and the service that you provide. i can't express that enough. that comes from people. it is a people business and my primary focus is to get our 84,000 plus people back aligned, back engaged and back focused on our customer. >> i'm glad you brought that up,

oscar, because i think one of the tngss in the airline business, it's the halcion home for airlines. what do you do when they say we have to give it back to shareholders versus those who say some of the other big guys who say we want it. how do you divide between new board members, among labor and among shareholders? >> at the end of the day, it all about balance. i spent but i think everybody understands that there's a delegate balance between all of those things and i think our new board members understand that more profoundly than anyone. so part of the difficult work ahead is to build a great airline, run a great airline and, more importantly, make sure we return to everyone involved. at the end of the day, it's got

to be about the industry. without them, they're nothing. >> we spoke to herb keller. he said i don't understand why these stocks are so low. is the airline business different this time? are we going to find up and find great price wars? or is this a new era and these companies are all valued wrong? >> well, i'll tell you, i sure hope it's a new era. we've all seen the old one and it hasn't worked. so we got to develop orplay book, and that's an important this evening to methe area we're living -- thing to me in the area, is we have to focus on keeping our

value. >> wow. oscar is a hero to most people. to face this challenge and come back. the numbers aren't that good. he's got his work cut out for him. but i think he can handle it. he's a great operator. i think he can make this work. >> do you think it more an issue of efficiency and customer service? >> they've got to have a way to run the airline. customer service he talked about being key. they need better customer sat fax. they're up against some very good competitors. remember, this is an airline where labor, they like to be thanked and they like to be paid. that's a huge amount of stock so

there's going to be a tension here among the dissidents, among the people who work at that airline and for the people who are just sitting here saying why should i own this, i could own southwest, this is a very competitive industry in terms of which airline to buy and right now they've spoken and said too hard to risk. i think they're wrong. i'm going with oscar. >> we have some news. >> the company which develops, finances, installs and operates renewable power plants based on solar energy has child bankruptcy under chapter 11 of the bankruptcy code, meaning it will reorganize. suneddis sun

sunedison has security commitments. it would seem to be a complex organization again given all of the parties that have taken place between it and the lights to and is to have agreements for which is has sold. but sun -- i want to remind people, an equity recovery. highly unlikely you see equity recovery in a chapter 11 bankruptcy. not expected here. we'll see. >> just in terms of the overall impact, there would have been another time if there was a collapse in sunedison, you would

see the whole market collapse. what's different? >> there was a decent amount of preparation for this. the journal did a story last week on all of the different problems they face in terms of -- well, the old story. they expanded too quickly and took on a lot of debt to do it. >> it was a great hedge fund darling. >> i'm not talking about any sort of adjustment, i'm just saying loved by big capital and disillusioned. >> suboptimal. >> suboptimal situation. basically not, let's say, union pacific. >> we will get stock trading with jim in just a moment. important than your health.

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good thursday morning. welcome back to "squawk on the street." some mild losses to start the morning, as the s&p has been pushed into the red. ecbs stays pat, claims were good and we are looking at the dow previously up six of the past seven sessions. big earnings from verizon, gm, yum and travelers, which is shaving about 30 points off the dow. >> we do have breaking economic data. let's send it over to rick santelli with leading indicat s indicators. rick? >> yes, expected to be up 0.4 is up 0.2. last month we did lose a bit of ground, though. oh, i take that back. it did. it was up 0.1, now it's down 0.1. now two out of three reads for the year are in negative

territory. but traders are printing this one, we're out of paper, the euro on an intra day basis, we know it's mario draghi day, and the markets are a big fundamental. big reversal to the down side, dollar index popped, took away some of the gains. i expect a lot more volatility today. >> stocks relatively flat, as we said. earnings day is it in full swings today. joining us with more is mike santoli and jonathan. good morning, guys. cramer looking atames that are not favored. >> it was the reverse of last year. you had the market the same as it was a year ago. back then it was let me buy the stuff insulated from the

cyclical pain. this time you have a lot of stocks likes ibm, like american express, like bank of america that have already absorbed their pain. they had their bad market last year and now on the results people are willing to bet that we have a second half turn around and return to positive earnings growth. today you have campbell soup down down a dollar in, changes for all the days it was up a dollar last year for no reason. >> are you on with that? what does it mean for earnings going forward? >> i am. the market is seeing a weaker dollar, decent results, better beats and the expeck taguctatio just too low going into earnings season. >> you keep hearing about positioning. it's a factor, the fact that so many hedge funds were positioned

defensive and were caught way off guard by this rally. how much of a change in sentiment is there? >> sara, it's a little hard to hear you with the clapping in the background. but what you're seeing is this move away from the world is coming to annd in january to something where recession fears are off the table, oil is higher and this is really a value-led rally. and to your point, those cyclicals that were cast aside are leading the market higher and as long as the market stays strong, that's probably the way the leadership is going to continue. >> jonathan, just to pick up on a number of points you've and been making, if you look across asset classes, it's becoming very interesting of what view people may be taking of the underlying state of not just the economy but where we are with interest rates.

the ten-year yield in germany, it's a benchmark of ecb action, you see silver moving in a very similar pattern. clearly we've had oil bouncing. if you look across the asset classes, you're getting confirm ago confirmation of everything that's moving something and i wonder what that is. >> i think the german bund is something like 26 basis points or 30, something look that. so there's clearly signs that this remains a weak backdrop, but the big story here was the market was too pessimistic, the bounce on that was really sharp and those countries that are basical basically levered on success are all leading the market, value over growth. you talk about hedge funds positioned incorrectly, this has

been a very painful rally to miss out on. >> so how far do you ride this new train? what's draangerous at this poin? >> that's a good question. maybe it's only a juiced up response to a softer dollar and what merrill lynch calls the humiliated asset classes, so disregarded earlier this year. were we kind of rallying our way into another fed conversation or something that gives us that talk that mabb we have to think about june and -- before you get to the fed does, does the market believe it is coming back and it's moving in anticipation of that and then let's discuss the phase. >> inflation is back.

it's not back in a troubling way. of course cpi is over. you look at today's weekly jobless claims were very good, 5% unemployment. the fed is going to reengage. the market is going to be perfectly fine with that because what the market is seeing is that there's enough strength to allow the fed to do what they need to and the market is not going to find this to be troubling. will have v-shape rally go on for not? probably not. this is -- look i said, i think these trades are going to continue longer, especially in earnings season, better than average. >> that would be nice to see, all of a sudden we're okay with what they ant to do? >> i think there's a chance the market could love a fed move for

the right reasons but the burden of proof is pretty of high because the market has been very skittish. it always seems like something's wrong. it's not the perfect time. we know that to be the case. we'll have to hope you have a quiet couple of months in the market. >> do you see banks rally? it's kind of a split opinion on cnbc. financials need to rally for the overall market to rally and they have been outperformers against this week. >> i think you sul sleuthly have to have them participate. do they have to be the leadership group in the market? i don't think so. not because they're part of s&p but because they're caught up in everything in the capital markets we want to see goo g right. >> thank you, guys. good discussion. >> i wanted to get to verizon. they were up at one point as much as 12% in part on the

strength of their dividend yield. the companies reported more or less in line, $1.06. revenues were perhaps a bit lower than some had been anticipating for the company, 42.3, up very, very slightly year over year. they are seeing new revenues from things like the internet of things, up as much as 25% over an extraordinarily low base. the ebidta margin was pretty good that was down 7 basis points for the quarter and their smartphone penetration is now 85% up from 80% a year ago. but given the move in the stock coming into the earnings today and given the fact that they are no more than telling us, which perhaps it's understandable the stock is not doing much of

anything except going down. on the call this morning, the company did talk about things it does to continue to cut costs, the cfo saying they plan to implement head couldn't productions as we continue to -- of course there is a strike going on amongst wire line workers at the company. they did not have much to say about that at this point. they do believe that it could down the road start to actually be a higher cost for verizon. they also talked about their increasing long-term global media strategy accomplished in part by its streaming service go 90, which is still in the early stages and gaining traction. aol own and we'll be interested to see how that develops.

overall no big surprises from verize on but given the performance of the stock that wasn't expect. >> we are getting some breaking news. proposals on curbing wall street pay. mary thompson has that. mary? >> these proposals are mandated by dodd-frank, initially released in 2011, the latest coming from the national credit union associations six organizations have to vote on them and then they'll be put out for public comment before being adopted. this is adon interesting to wal street. asset pay will be paid out over four years. some have adopted rules where deferred compensation is paid out over a three-year period so extending that period slightly.

also, current incentive compensation plans would be grandfathered under this rule and all assets -- or all institutions with more than $1 billion in assets would be required to keep records of their incentive based compensation plan for a time of up to seven years in just about a hour an who are or but just bringing you some of the highlights here, notably again, the incentive based compensation -- the proposed rule requiring it be paid out over four years as opposed to the three that a number of wall street firms have currently adopted. we'll have more details as they come out. >> thank you. united airline settling a major proxy battle. ceo oscar munoz speaking out for the first time on cnbc this morning. all the highlights for you next.

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financial shares this year, they might be thinking i just want to get out of them, go on vacation with less stress. so the age old adage, sell in may and go away, you might be surprised there are a few financial names that actually outperform. our partners crunched the numbers for us from may to october going back the last 15 years, financials, they may not have been the best place to go long underperforming the broader s&p, which has typically been down 1.5% over those months, but there have been a few bright spots. rallying close to 6% typically, pels fargo has gained 3%, goldman has beaten the s&p during that time period and is up half of the days. aig has traditionally lost 17%. 17% in that time period.

morgan stanley has fallen 7% on average. you can decide what you want to do with your holdings into the coming monies. >> and united added two new board members. president and ceo oscar munoz joined us in a recent interview. we asked about the proxy battle with altimeter. >> with regards to the chairman role and all those things, titles aren't important to me. i don't really care. we did that unilaterally, by the way. that was a decision i made for all the right reasons. but at the end of the day, i think the two new members that we've added are terrific from a technology and innovation perspective and profound, deep airline experience from an airline perspective. i've met with those folks at length, they're great.

you know jim whitehurst, robert milton is terrific, jim kennedy is a terrific long-time presence with institutional investors. the reconstituted board will be great. i' i'm going to miss some of our board members that are leaving because they were great. but i think it's going to work out very well. i'm just excited to get back to the actual work at hand. >> i'm sure passengers and shareholders would agree. coming up, is the ipo drought finally over? we'll ask tom farley who knows what's actually in the pipeline and likely to come to market after the break.

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i'm sue herrera. here is your cnbc update this morning. president obama meeting with six arab nations in riyadh. he talked about the benefits of the iran nuclear deal. >> not only have we seen iran do what it is supposed to do under the deal and the threat of an iranian nuclear weapon is greatly reduced, but what we've also seen what the gcc has seen, is our continued cooperation in, for example, interdicting the hutu members in yes, ma'men. >> more than 550 people have died from the quake in ecuador. palates of food were delivered.

>> and in texas, this man made it halfway before he was swept into the water. he did make it to shore. >> in a surveillance video, you can see two men arguing, it spills outside, punches are thrown and then one man pulls out a knife and stabs the other twice. the man is expected to be okay. that's the news update. back to you. >> thank you for the update. mgm growth properties, more companies looking to go public in the pipeline. are ipos back for good? we go to the head of the new york stock exchange, tom farley. >> the important thing, tom farley, is we've got three ipos since friday, all have done well, all trading above their initial price, all pricing in the middle and high end of the

range, including american reano right behind us. is the ipo market back? >> i think it's back. it's been a long time since we stood here talking about it, i've missed you, bob. >> thank you. there were or four or five ipos that intended to go public last year but didn't. and finally our phone is ringing saying we're ginning the machine pa back, we want to talk dates. >> there's a lot of stuff out there back logged. >> i think at the moment the conversation is more so around june. anything could happen in the meantime. there could be geo politico concerns, everything could change on a dime. at the moment if nothing change,

it looks like june will be active. >> mgo properties up, bats up 25%. let me ask you about bats going public. there's a fight for market share going on. how is the nyse doing in the battle share and for listings on nasdaq? >> let me talk about the ngo. they're all doing well and trading smoothly. you pointed out that went public at 26.50. it's traded 26.62 a half hour, 45 minutes later. it's a good seen in terms of the market. in terms of market share here at the new york stock exchange, we are far and away the leader in the united states and i think we're being awarded by customers for taking a customer centric

approach. >> and you've objected because of a speed bump -- >> i want simplified markets. it makes our market easier to understand for the mop and pop investors at home. in general i'm against anything that will make the market more complex and not benefit customers. we're going to continue to take that stance. >> we expect early june, maybe mid june to hear on the iex application. guys, back to you. >> thank you very much. let's catch up with breaking news. jackie? >> the department of energy reporting an injection to nat gas stocks of 7 billion cubic

feet. it did turn prices negative. last year at this time we saw an 82 billion feet injection and the five-year average about 45. the nat gas market is trying to balance itself as well, very similar to what's happening in the crude oil market. overall stocks right now are substantially higher than we've seen them in a along time. that's why nat gas prices have been floating and this $2 level. this morning level high is 2.10, we're trying now at 2.06. rebalancing is starting to happen and plats points out this is the sixth consecutive storage week that withdrawals are flip-flopping as we head into the summer season. we're up about 6% in a week, 14% in a month but year to date it's still down 11%. consumers are sitting pretty in

a good position as we head into the summer season. >> and the next "fang" stock to report is google's alphabet class. what is going to be the near growth, james dix? >> there will probably be some questions at least if not discussion in the script about what's going on with the eu. >> that's not moving the stock, though, let's be honest. >> i doubt it. >> why? because it's only a billion fine and they can deal with that easily? >> you don't get a lot of discussion about pending regulatory or legal issues. >> a five-year stock is a thing of beauty. even over the last 12 months,

it's up over 40%. a lot of that had to do with the new cpo cofo come being in and decisions she was able to make. as she comes to the end of the first year, lots of people say it's controlling costs that are their main focus. >> i think you're going to get more focus on cost cuts. if you looked at their core business, google business, it had a 300 basis point margin expansion last year, which was well above trend. it's going to be hard for her to repeat that performance. but if she can continue to show some visibility on core business, margin expansion and some rational approach to other bets, the other part of alphabets's business, that's what people will look for her. >> i was going to ask about other bets. it's interesting that they break it out. this is the second quarter we're going to get a glimpse into that. even though google is 99% of revenues, what are you going to be looking at in other bets?

>> other bets maybe any more discussions about milestones. i think they've said in the past to some extent they approach other bets like milestones would. so any more color on where some of these other bets stand in terms of those milestones, when the next ones are coming up and any qualitative discussion on things like that would be important. >> a lot of people wonder with the boston dynamic sale if they're seeing something about valuations at large or whether it was something specific to robotics they just didn't want to chase. what do you think the answer is? >> it's not a surprise, it's not a shock to people that tech valuations in some area have been under pressure and so if you have some concern about the long-term viability of a particular project, you might say, okay, why not cut our losses on something look that.

but there's a lot of approaches to robotics so simply because they sell one company, i wouldn't necessarily say they're going to get out of the whole initiative. >> they'll go with that from several angles, i assume. >> they have a lot of resources to approach that problem, among others. >> a lot of people will have noticed they changed the search results about six weeks ago. they said to everybody they were going to do that. can you just briefly run us through what they did and what the impact of that is likely to be? >> yeah, they continue to focus on, you know, improving the monetization in search. they've had changes especially on the mobile side in terms of more focus on search engine results in regards to the ads as opposed to organic growth. i think that continues to be a focus because they've had success with that. can you see their revenue growth has improved dramatically over the past year so i think you have continuation along those

lines. >> what is the price target, what is the expectation as things stand? >> i'm looking for a good quarter on revenue growth. i think you're going to see a continuation of the momentum, you saw them starting to build the mid part of last years as a result of some of the product changes. my target is 840. i brought it up a little bit in my preview. i actually think they might be able to reverse some of the trend that you mentioned on kind of negative tech results so far this quarter. >> nice to see you, james. james dix. >> and share of underarmor, the company shares surging more than 7%. we'll talk about what drove that quarter after a break.

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welcome back to "squawk on the street." stocks are off their highs. health care trying to hold on to a gain, currently did best performing sector in the s&p 500 due in part to positive earnings. biogen's quarterly earnings beating expectations this morning thanks to its multiple sclerosis drug. this will likely help margins going forward. that stock up about 4%. other standouts include endo international, mallimallinckrod illumina and alexion farma. >> let's bring in john kernen.

john, going into this quarter there were a lot of worries about whether under armour was losing market share in apparel. did the growth quiet concerns? >> the drivers of growth are shifting to international and footwear. clearly apparel in the u.s. whole sale channels probably slowing a little bit off an incredibly high base. we don't think they're losing growth drivers but they're shifting to other regions. >> would you agree, were you impressed by the different metrics? double digit sales growth across the board. >> i agree. growth metrics are changing where footwear and international are really starting to take over.

footwear continue about 12% of the growth going forward and international about 10%. you really don't need 20% growth going forward, mid teens would do it. >> i wonder, john, if inventories are a problem. they rose about 44%. that came in higher than a lot of analysts were expecting. are you worried about it? >> we're somewhat concerned about the sector in general but not under armour. ultimately think their growth margin has recovery opportunity in the third and fourth quarter as they lap what was a difficult weather environment in the back half of 2015. ultimately inventory is going to come down. it is elevated now but i don't think they have a demand problem. >> another interesting stat from this report, susan, 14% of total sales come from international, up from last year where it was less than 12. what is the potential for this company as it does go global?

>> still a huge runway for them internationally. most of the markets they're in, they only have 1% or 2% market share up the most. clearly a huge opportunity. i mean, this compares to nike with 60% of their revenues coming from internationals. with only 14% still a long ways to go there, which is why we see it contributing to the top line significantly over the next several years. >> john, if you look back at nike stock and union p under armour stock, both held analyst days last fall. both are down from their lanalyt days. is there a question whether money has been made in this category or are up confident it can continue to grow and the stocks can continue to outperform? >> sure, those analyst days were enormous analysts for both stocks. both stocks made all-time highs immediately following the analyst days.

valuations went up to all-time peaking for both companies. we think the stories continue here. we have outperforms on both stocks. if you look at the top line potential of under armour, investors focus on forward p but the total sales volume this company can do and the free cash that will be associated with that, we think they can go a lot higher than here. we also have nike but adidas is our top performer in the group right now. >> adidas in this country is a sleeping giant, massively underperformed, as a new c.o. brought in. clearly they're targeting this company. what is the expectation as to what they could do to disrupt the market, almost innovator moving in perhaps? >> thanks for bringing up the new ceo.

he has an incredible view on cost and that's where adidas has lacked nike and under armour. they can double earnings in a short time period. clearly in a good product cycle now but they could have 9 euros in earning power if things go well in sg & a structure. adidas is doing better. >> susan, which one of the three do you own or is a it a rising tide lifts all boats when it comes to that category? >> i continue to like under armour. i think it has such a higher growth opportunity longer term. we see 30% plus revenues over the next several years. and nike, while its international opportunity is still pretty big for them, we are seeing revenues slow a bit domestically, which is a big concerning where we have a market perform on that one where we think it's fairly valued.

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is to be active throughout the day. >> and veradesk started with one model and now it has many models coming from employees and employers alike. >> it is active office, and the sit/stand desks are all part of the solution. >> a solution that is the fastest growing sector of the $10 billion office furniture mark market. >> what we will see as the healthy office segment to be as much as one-third of the total office segment in the next three to five years. >> but it is not all about standing, and look, take the desk down, and sit down on the ball chair, and get your feet rowing. i am telling you that it started out with herman miller and steel case and a couple of standing desks, but it is amazing how this has grown because you have ep tre preneurs and small businesses coming out with the

devices growing exponentially, and this is the cube-e to track how far i have gone, and i will tell you that it is a a workout, and you can multi task, and you can see that it does increase productivity and it can be proven right here in the office. >> and this is the highlight of many people's days, and two camera shoots, and people are in ah of how fit you are. >> no, i want to see the standing desk ss at the nyse. >> and diana, you keep doing, that and comcast will want you to pay the power bills by generating the light above your head. >> it is all tracked. >> she can do it. >> diana, i am curious, because i have visited you in the dc bureau and you do it for real and not just for the story, and how long have you been doing? >> i bought the ball chair four years ago and the standing des ak year and half, and the cube-e

they have just sent me to m monitor, and you can see it now, and these are not superexpensive ak and the companies hint-hint it is not just the consumer paying for them, but it is the b2b. >> oh, i am thrilled. and diana olick reporting for the fitness industry, the workplace/fitness industry. >> well, you don't get guns like that the just working the feet. >> no. >> and santelli exchange, and what does your desk look like, rick? >> well, i have one of those at home just in case they keep tinkerring with the energy markets, every house is going to need to generate some electricity, and this is my draghi thursday desk. and mario draghi's press conference come and gone, and what is your observation >> well, one, no new news in the press conference and in the meeting, and the last one march

10th when he announced the expansion of the corporate bond buying and gave the details after the presser, and that is the new news. but more to the next level, draghi was hit with a lot of questi questions about the negative interest rates and extreme policies, and whether it is hurting the pension industry or causing a rise of the third-party political movements in europe, because they are worried about getting the future, and he defended himself there. >> and stop right there oso we don't lose the audience, but why would that spring up in a discussion about negative interest rates? >> well, it is two ofold, because people are starting to understand interest rates. i brought a book written by sidney homer in originally written 1963, and in the years of interest rates, what you won't find in this book anywhere

is negative interest rates, and so that is if new. and so in the first few months they called it a gimmick and not sure what they were staring at, and only in the last three months they have understood the implications, and it has them worried. >> how is that into the social and the retirement arguments? >> well, the pension plans need to earn something in order to pay the pensioneers and not only low, but negative, you not only not earn, but you are losing. and people worry if their pension is going to be there and they worry about the future of the country and the society in a negative environment. and draghi was hit with these questions, and he deflected it by saying that he had nothing to do with it, and he believes that the policies are right, and he took a shot at the germans and saying that we are following the law, and they are being critical in the terms of the ecb. >> and our country, we don't have them, and the safety net

for the student finance, right, there is a safety net, they will be starting to pay them off for the studenta and safety net for housing, so if people can't retire because of all of the ways to generate future income are not generating any interest, who is -- is there a safety net there that we ought to worry about? is the government going to let all of these people have no money or much less money at retirement, because it is going to open up a new can of worms. >> yes, and if they bail out everybody, student lopes, passing through to when they don't pay, and the homes and the definition of the pension money industry, where is the money coming from, and it gets back to the debt issue, but more to the point, low interest rate s s is what we have in this country, and it is not generating the incomes that we need, and certainly not the negative interest rates in europe. >> and negative interest rates continues to be the topic on draghi thursday. >> thank you very much.

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