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a potential vp pick and forbes unveiling the list of highest paid celebrities. we'll tell you how much more they make than the average camera man or gaper on the movies they make. and try to shrink this income inequality. who is in the top spot and who dropped out. it's july, 12, 2016. "squawk box" begins right now. >> good morning everybody. and welcome to "squawk box" on cnbc. let's take a look at the u.s. equity futures. yesterday the s&p closing at a record high. the dow was at the highest level of the year. the nasdaq closed above as well. you can see the bulls are continuing the run. dow futures indicated up to
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close to 85 points. nasdaq up by about 27. also take a look at treasury yields. yesterday at one point the 30-year hit a record low yield again. the 10-year is yielding above where it had been. 1.458%. let's take a look at what happened overnight in asia after those strong results here in the united states. it carried out through the night. the hang seng up by 1.6%. in europe in the early trade markets are stronger there as well. at least most of them. the dax is up 1.5. the ftse just went slightly negative, but take a look at italy. that stock narcotic up about 2%. spain the ibex is up 1.9%. crude oil prices, you can see equities higher this morning.
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yesterday wti closed at a two-month low. this morning up. on today's economic agenda, there's one report. expected to show inventory rose slightly, but we have plenty of fed speaks today. cleveland fed president spoke overnight in sidney. chef said maintains stability in the financial markets should not be an explicit goal for the ed. a lot of discussion after the financial crisis of 2009, what role should the fed play. she argues the central bank should use interest rates to head off a crisis if better suited tools fail. former fed chairman ben borrow nancy is in japan this morning.
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officials say bernanke discussed what they can do to end deflation and achieve sta sustainable growth. i'm surprised joe, did you not read this in the times today, no ignoring the alarm bell sounding over bonds. commentators with breath less over stocks yesterday, but smart people know you have to look to the bond market. >> where do you hide from the brexit? >> anywhere. >> i don't know. stocks might be one -- might be one idea. in corporate news shlgs the securities and exchange commission reportedly investigating whether tesla breached security laws. looking into the auto maker's failure to disclose the fatal
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crash in may involving one of the vehicles with self driving technology. according to the wall street journal, the investigation is in an early stage. no world on whether regulators were watching "squawk box" for the last three weeks as we talked about whether a ceo is in an position to say something is not material. it's not -- and then go ahead with the secondary offering and all the other stuff that happened. we beat this horse to death and now it's kind of interesting they're looking to see whether we get a determination. i've seen an article written to death i think it was on article watch or something that the pedestal is starting to crumble a little under elon musk. there's at least some cracks. i think that's premature. >> and from investors who see him as a visionary who built
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somebody unbelievable. i have spoke within a a lot of tesla drivers who are not bothered by any of this. look, the car is fantastic. >> i tell you, i interviewed elon musk a long time ago. he has just sold pay pel. tesla was a glimpse in the eye. >> the hyper loop, the electric car, he was bald and he became her suit. he was bald. he hairline was back to the middle. he cured baldness. >> he's amir cal man. >> yes. >> i don't know about hyper loop, but he is like he's like a ware wolf and he was really a bad kind of bald too. so i mean, he's a visionary. >> he can make anything happen. >> yes.
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if you want to google it, google it. bald elon. he was well on the way to a q ball. >> you're dying to get him on the show, aren't you. >> would my life not be completely. >> all ecoa . there's a ten year chart. coa . there's a ten year chart. that was right before the financial crisis it was up in the 40s. and will i'm not going -- you know, this is not necessarily an implication. we're not running out of -- how do they say? >> why are you writing on your hand. >> stuff i have to remember to. >> if i don't issuing i will
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forget. >> you and sarah palin. >> it's a reminder list. >> it's somebody i have to e-mail. >> anyway, ten dollars, $10. alcoa trades at $10. that's where it trades. the company still expects growth of 1-4% in the global auto market. so many cars use aluminum now, but nothing has happened. >> if you talk to anybody in the aluminum industry, they would say there's dumping, trade issues that come underway. >> low inflation. >> but the main thing a lot of them say is dumping from china. >> could anyone else have done anything? >> r >> restructured the company. >> sea gate technologies cutting 6500 jobs.
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also raising fourth quarter revenue and xerox is reportedly going to buy rr donly. no deal is imminent though. in jan january, xerox was planning to split. >> you don't remember that? >> you said he didn't last. >> right. >> news breaking in just the last hour. international tribunal has found there's no legal basis for china's nine-line. that's the line on the map where they claim rights to the south china sea. suggesting china has interfered with traditional fip piano fishing rights. joins us now with the big question. are the chinese going to listen? they said they don't care what
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this organization says. >> yes, they've already come out quite strongly saying they are going to not accept this case. in fact, this case is really a landmark decision that could have widespread implications across asia. the issue is china's role in the south china sea. china has basically laid claim to the entire body of water or almost the entire body of water. many of its neighbors who are u.s. alleys as well such as the philippines have long disputed beijing's position. they went to the hag and has been arguing the claim in court. now, this case was very closely watched because it was seen as a litmus test of how china approaches international institutions and international law. it was also seen as a possible precedent for other countries
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such as vietnam to negotiate its own claims and then washington has also been closely monitoring this particular ruling because beijing has been challenging washington's role in the region as well as the u.s. led security system that has long been in place here and really laid the groundwork and foundation for economic rise. now the court handed down the ruling and it ruled against china. saying that china's claim and its description of the nine-line has no legal basis. already, michelle, the chinese government has been issuing plenty of statements. the foreign ministry said they won't accept this. the defense ministry said china will do everything it can to protect the sovereignty as well as the maritime rights. what's worrying people here is the fear this could all lead to greater conflict.
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if the court ruled against china that it could lead to more aggression on the part of the chinese. that's one of the things people are watching here and quite concerned about at this point. >> wanted to point out issuing thanks so much. it is the reason we're focused on this. in a time when the sentiment is very negative, this kind of decision could have pressured the stock market lower if it were already down, i think it would have done it more. this event, which i think there was a time you said this had happened, you should be worried. nobody cares. >> you're feeling a bole yens? bole yent. >> one day it went above. >> you're listening to the technician from yesterday. >> no, i'm saying a bole yent is when people all of a sudden get to where she said, 2400 s&p. people go what is happening? >> to answer your question, will
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we escalate to some cold war level, who knows. >> let's talk to two people here and see if either one of them. -- we'll do the micro, macro, everything. the s&p 500 finally traded all-time high. nasdaq is trading all-time high. jason pride, just from looking at the notes, do either one of you guys think that we're not just set up for this horrific fall because of all the risks out there and the market is extended. do you think this is a break out and potentially bolish? >> you're worried about brexit now. you weren't before. >> you're doing a great job with our comments. keep going. >> he's a little friendlier to the market?
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>> i'm friendlier to the market, yes. >> not many people are. they're all like nervous nelly. >> ultimately markets have done really well when they've had reasons to be nervous. you solve those issues, markets have been able to rise. today we continue to operate in a bad news is good news. by that, i mean we have pro proactive issues. that checks ecb. seems to check the fed. >> if you were to come -- if you woke up out of a long sleep and someone said all right: interest rates are really low and they're expected to stay low. inflation is not a concern almost anywhere in the world. very few alternatives to anything else. jobs are up and we're at 4.9% unemployment with no inflammation. all these things you put
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together if you hasn't been told for the last year and a half that things were so scary, all those project higher multiples. >> we've got a full equity waiting, but we're nervous. we've got a full equity because of the things you said. a lot of the backdrop is set up for a decedent equity environment, but at the same time, equity valuations are above average. about 15% above what i consider to be fair. >> it's not 20 times. it's not extreme levels, but it's high up. we're in the seventh year of an expansion now. you have a number of things you can pile on to each other to tell you, okay, this is a little bit riskier of a situation than where we were two or three years ago. completely agree. >> most recessions don't die of old age. they usually die when things heat up too much. >> they don't die of old age.
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they're killed. >> they're killed by something. >> the yield curve. not a gladly slipping yield curve. >> i think people could miss this. >> the "new york times" sayi in savvy economists know you look at the bond market. we should all be terrified. >> isn't the bond market really the fed market? >> yes. >> the sfral banks are dominating every interest rate that's set from short to long. it's not an economic predict terror at this point. >> they're responding to the global backdrop. >> they are. >> i think what do you in this situation you do recognize that equities are preferred over fixed income because the fixed income return is so meager, you position that way. you find other ways to build in defense. we're using options. we're using quality investing within stocks.
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we're tilting towards minimum toll tillty. we're trying to dampen the volatility as much possible. >> you're assuming, i guess, that interest rates are going to stay low for a very long time. we heard from george yesterday. she was saying look she didn't vote to raise rates in june, but that was a timing issue. she might very well vote to raise them at the next meeting. >> we're not assuming that. fixed income along the way. is going to get reasonably hard in a rising environment. >> bothey i mean, how do you kn? people have been wrong on this. >> effectively trying to work through globalization. then effectively it's one set
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dealing with one policymaker, dealing with one set of economic decisions. >> we may be going back to that. globalization is getting a bad rap. >> there's certainly more there, but to the extent the financial markets have become just that. you can't just think about what is unemployment in new hampshire. that wind up driving things. where you set up was, the fact is growth becomes exceptionally valuable. hopefully we'll starlt getting that in the third quarter. >> this should be a little bit of an inflection point getting better than the last four or five quarters where it was an earnings recession. that should be better too. >> i think that's happening, but at the same time the earnings division coming from analyst right now. we thought we were coming out of it. we saw a pop upward and now the
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analyst revisions have turned negative yet again coming sboog the second quarter earning reports. we're sitting facing a large number of analyst. >> just when the prior year numbers reflect we've dropped off,those are going to start showing positive too. >> we go from a dollar to two, great from a base math perspective. certainly helpful. >> paid to be nervous. >> we are paid to beer er beer when you have fixed income and a third of the fixed income basket is delivers negative yields. >> are you apologizing for
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having to have some equities. >> i am. all-time highs on the s&p. >> you know, in a market that's gone from, you know, 800 in the dow when i started to, you know, to 18,000, it's hit a lot of new highs. i haven't been nervous at every single new high. >> joe tries to make me apologize on air every time i'm here. >> you tried this. >> that i would say would be good, chemoengineering. do you believe in global warming? >> yes. >> go back. >> see you later. >> check the reports, joe. >> when we come back this morning, we will talk about today's campaign events. they are less about the head liners and who is sharing the stage. hillary clinton will be joined by senator bernie sanders. donald trump will campaign with
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potential vp pick mike pence. he was campaigning with chris christie. we'll have the latest from the campaign trail next.
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bernie sanders will join hillary clinton at a rally this morning. mike pence will campaign with p donald trump. let's talk politics. you've haven't endorsed anybody yet. >> no, i'm going to vote for the republican nominee, whoever that is, i'm assuming it's going to be donald trump. >> do you have anany doubts? >> i think as we get closer to day, people are realizing it would be awfully difficult on a practical basis to deny the votes of 13 million republican primary voters.
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i think we have to work together just as the song said. >> but you're not -- you still haven't endorsed him and there's 13 million primary voters. a lot of people would think that. >> she's laying out pretty stringent defenses. >> mr. trump, if it's between -- >> you want to endorse him right now? >> look, i'm happy to endorse donald trump as our presidential nominee, assuming they the will of the convention carries that out. if for some reason it doesn't, i will support the nominee. >> bernie sanders going to endorse hillary clinton. the moment everyone has been waiting for. is that going to help? >> to some extent she's already begun the process of unifying the democratic party. he's an important step in that process. i think senator warn endorsing and supporting her went a long way toward bringing in the
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stands of the sanders electorate she needs. a lot of that work has been done, but it's important to go into the convention unified. >> we were looking at a party platform that was put together that is further left than any democratic party that's ever been put together. that doesn't always make a huge difference, but the platforms are there to guide people and say this is where we would love to be at some point, but what kind of candidate will she be? does that push her further left? >> it does. you saw that throughout the campaign. having that primary challenge really it moved her further to the left and gave her some -- are real reason politically to emphasize certain issues. >> does it really mean anything? >> will she push for $15 minimum wage, will she push for a public option in health care.
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>> i think the first two almost certainly yes. on the third, health care is going to continue to be an issue. it's something she cares although about. i don't think anybody on either side of the aisle going to. >> that doesn't rule back that expand it. >> correct. which is why i pointed that out. i'm not sure this democratic party or anybody wants to unwind the legislation. >> the republican platform is full of stuff they're not really going to try to do either. >> a platform is a platform. going into the convention, you'll final have both candidates pick their vp. >> who do you want to see. >> donald trump's job here is different than hillary clinton's job. he has more work to do in this process. he has to try to unify the party. he has to try to keep the various strands. >> i think hillary has a lot of work too. >> she has a very unanimated voter where donald trump has very animated voters. >> i think her opposition is
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animating the voters. i've seen the this process up close. both the first lady and serving a high level in administration. i think for her it is who do i want to work down the hall from. >> that's a load of ma larky. she wants someone to help her win. >> i actually sgee disagree with that. >> she needs somebody who is going to get a security clearance at this point. >> we heard a lot of names. i can admire any of the people who have sbeen named on that list. they all have constriction and depth and length of the experience. they all have policy theerexper. donald trump needs that on the ticket at this point. i would be happy be any of these men or women. >> i think he really would love to surprise. look, i'm a big mitch daniels
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fan. >> he probably would not do it. he has not supported trump. and actually said some things about him. >> i know. i do think look if it were mike pence, he's a very experienced legislat legislator, has a great record in terms of his economic policies and this is what people need. this is why we're in such separate straights in this country after seven years of president obama who should have brought us together and yet we're falling apart. in large measure it is because we're experiencing economic desperation that is reflected across the world. we need a change in our tax policies in our regulatory policies and any of the people who skr been named this far would move donald trump far along that way. >> could be a scary country after the election. >> let's hope not. not if we get tax relief, joe. >> both sides, the opposition is helping both sides get their voters out, but it is really
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like hard opposition on boeds sid both sides. they're thinking well, if he, it is hard. >> i agree with you. the crown try is very particularized. very said that, i think there are more strands in the general electorate available to hillary clinton rights now. >> that may be true. >> after the election is done. >> i don't disagree. >> that's why this pick is so important. he has work to do. hillary clinton picks someone she comfortable with. she doesn't need to do that to occ sdur t secure the base. >> it's going to be another policy whomever she chooses will not be able to wash away the fact she represents a platform that is fundamentally flawed and will not provide the relief she
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hopes to provide. >> we need to get out of this segment and you justice said stuff michael would have to respond to, but sorry you don't have time. >> just one quick thing, i understand that donald trump offering a vision for change for this country, the question is is it acceptable change and is he a acceptable candidate for the change. that's the access. >> he's going to choose a vice presidential nominee to run with him to provide the kre desh e den shls. >> we don't know that yet. >> it's an important pick. coming up, the brexit the fallout from the brexit. just a day away. tell you what to expect. i love this. got a lot to say about this. how do you characterize someone that gets picked? there's no election. what do you say in the papers. she was -- all of them say she ended up with the job.
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welcome back to "squawk box". the s&p to a new high. the transition of power in the uk is just a day away. david cameron is holding his final cabinet meeting as prime minster as theresa may prepares to take over tomorrow. cameron will tender his resignation to the queen. may had been expecting a nine-week race to become the next prime minster until her opponent, andrea leadsom, withdrew yesterday. may has take an hard line of leaving the european union, although she was a remainer earlier. she said she'll make sure a brexit happens. the pound is moving higher this morning. 1.31. >> where do you hide? we've been doing segments, where do you hide from the brexit?
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i guess stocks. either the fotse or the s&p or the dow. or maybe asian stocks. they've all been doing pretty well. the way the different papers try to talk about this. how do you talk about what happened over there? the eword appears nowhere. no one was elected. uk and lines up a new leader. lining one up. "the washington post," she lands the job. landed the job. lands it. "new york times" came up with becomes the choice. becomes the choice to lead i don't know who is choosing and then i do know, but it's not the people. and then which usa today to become prime minster. so it's all sort of what happened. >> so how does it work. >> the parties vote for their leaders. you can pay to be a member of the party. if you want to be a member of the labor part, it's 25 pountd.
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>> is it a democracy, republic? what is it? did the people elect theresa may. >> the party elected theresa may and the people elected the party. you know who wants the system, the republican establishment wants to be able to install either the nominee or the president. they're still crying and. >> what's so funny when you talk about the gop, all of the rules that are in place that makes it really hard to dislodge donald trump from this position, they put them in in response to rand paul a couple of election cycles ago. >> they want this ieblt. >> yes. >> they got smart a long time ago. they already selected hillary clinton right from the start with super delegates. >> right. >>ive wish her well. i do. >> we've never been a straight on democracy. >> what about boris johnson.
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why didn't he stick it out? maybe he should have stuck it out if that guy hadn't stabbed him in the back. >> i'm not sure we got the whole story on why boris johnson backed out. i swear there's something we don't know. when you read about that massacre the next morning, did they know something? what happened to boris johnson because he could have done it. he was so popular. >> can you hear this. >> they're cleaning right there. >> is that what that is. >> oh, maybe in the prison yard. someone is maybe bureauing underneath to try to escape from -- does this guy know we're trying to do a television show. >> i doubt he cares. >> they can't hear this at home, but we're all shaking. >> he's got a bright yellow shirt. >> is that where it's coming from. right here. oh it is. they got the jackhammer going
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over there. okay. good. working guys. i like those guys. we're going to bring them back. a lot more manufacturing jobs. those are coworking class heros >> instead of moving money around. >> we get to do some good. we get to highlight these things. >> i get paid to bs. >> you do. >> the brexit taking a toll on the rest of europe. will grow by less that 1% this year and only slightly faster in 2017. italian banks have been under pressure. started before brexit. brexit made it really bad. higher today. the question is how are they going to fix the fact they are all undercapitalized. i would point out the italian hasn't grown since the euro. >> unicredit, banco popular.
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>> you don't even have to think about this. >> i'm jealous. >> you know what i'll never do is dan rather and nicaragua. >> did he. >> he used to say that. >> we may prepare that. >> you don't even have to think about it, do you. >> when you speak spanish, do people think it's perfect. >> no, i have a slight accent and i make grammatical errors. one of my favorite shows was on and we see you monte dei paschi, banco popular. >> what kiennd of accent do i
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have. >> american. >> no, i'm going to do it. >> i don't know if you're allowed to say that word. >> may be, you're right. welcome to the parking lot. >> i did. i think i said welcome parking lot. >> coming up, an international guy, mark grant says forget the fundamentals and forget technical analysis. hooe going to tell us how he's putting money to work with stocks at an all-time high. a quick check of what's happening in european markets right now. ftse is up, but barely. mary buys a little lamb. one of millions of orders on this company's servers. accessible by thousands of suppliers and employees globally. but with cyber threats on the rise,
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s&p surging to an all-time high. next guest says that something is truly different this time. joining us right now is mark grant. he's is chief fixed income strategist for hill top securities.
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you've been warning for a long time these treasury yields would go down down down and stay down. i'm guessing you haven't seen anything that's changed your mind in the last week. >> no, nothing at all. the 10-year treasury started this year at 2.27. the average economist forecast was for mid year at 2.78. you know i've been saying lower. we've now had all-time lows ever in the history of the united states. we're back off them a little, but nothing is changing my mind. >> mark, it's becky actually, surprise. >> hi, becky, how are you. >> michelle is right here too. >> you're looking basically at a lens. you can't see anything back. >> that's true. >> we've been watching what's happening with yields, also watching what's happening with stocks as the s&p hits new highs. does that give you faith stocks may be a safer place to be.
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>> i don't think their a safrl place. >> safer than away you thought. >> i should say. >> safer than i thought. >> what happens is a lot of japanese central bank is throwing a lot of tremendous amount of money here. for a couple of reasons, one, is michelle just pointed out, their significant problems in italy with their financial system and their growth. then of course the five star party got control of the mayor seats in turn in rome so is the united states is looking like a safe place to invest for both equity and debt and our yields in the united states for treasures and corporates are significantly higher than what you can find in asia or in europe. so we're seeing debt and equity huge amounts of money coming into the united states. i think that's what is driving these markets. >> do you think it's a fair assumption?
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you have told us interest rates down low for a very long time. if that's the case, do stocks look more attractive? if you're looking at zero percent interest rates around the globe, you could have much higher multiples than we're dealing with right now. >> i think that's the hope. also remember that, you know, there are pockets of money that are mandated to be in certain places. if the mandate is to be in equities and it looks scary in the european union and it looks frightening in japan, money is going to come. that money is going to come into the united states where it's certainly much safer and also we're not nearly ads bad a financial condition. also to be fair to your comment, as yields go down, people are going anywhere they can to try to get a return on their capital.
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>> euro zone go away? or eu, does the eu finally collapse under its own weight? >> are you asking me joe in your italian accent or your new jersey accent. >> if i let myself go, i speak cincinnati, which you don't want to hear that. believe me. it's like kentucky almost, but what do you think, does it go away. >> i think the euro zone is in significant trouble. italy, the nether land, we know what happened in britain. >> what about the currency? what about the euro itself? gone? >> it's not going to be gone, but if the euro zone starts to break up further than it has, it's certainly going to come into question what the value of it is. >> we're pushing back against globalism a bit in different countries. does that mean that all voters are the same? are the voters in this country going to elect donald trump the same way brexit happened in your view? >> yes, i think donald trump is
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going to be elected because of the famous words of that great economist, wc fields. i never vote for, i always vote against. >> that's interesting. all right. you make some crazy calls and i know there's a lot of people that think that's crazy, but you know what, we'll see. thanks mark. >> coming up small business success story. pies have been called pop tarts for grownups. founder joins us next. stem for it's called predix. it's gonna change the way the world works. ok, i'm telling my brain to tell the drone to get you a copy of my resume. umm, maybe keep your hands on the controller. look out!! ohhhhhhhhhh... you know what, i'm just gonna email it to you. yeah that's probably safer.
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a small pastry business hitting it big. mag pies is a company that makes all natural jam filled artisan -- what do you like to say? >> artisan. >> i think it's artisan. often called pop tarts for adults. although, i thought pop tarts were pop tarts for adults. anyway, they are hitting shelves nationwide. joining us is megan richie of meg pies. that's a pretty good name. >> we named it mag pies at first because i thought people would have it with the bird. my name is meg.
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but most people called me maggie when i was selling mag pies. >> i like meg pies better. i can't believe the way this is working out for you. and you look like -- what are you a senior in high school now? >> that's very kind. >> but you see this movie "joy" or whatever it was. she needed to get a mop on qvc and they made a movie about her. and these are going into starbucks nationwide? >> they are. today. >> when you found out about that, what did you do? did you jump up and down a little? >> it's funny. no one ever shows up at your door with a huge check and balloons. you temper your excitement a little bit. >> it's a lot better than that. >> today i'll go out and see them in the stores and i'll get excited. >> how are these different? how are these different than pop tarts? >> i think the thing that sets them apart most is the taste. they're all natural so they're made with an all butter pie
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crust. so you get that really delicious taste of butter. there's a nice salt content to the crust that counteracts the sweetness of the icing and jam inside. >> this is a good start for me. and brown sugar in there too. >> yeah. we have two flavors debuting. strawberry and cinnamon brown sugar. you can warm them in a microwave or toaster oven. >> that's what i do with pop tarts. you're a small producer now. now you have to be a huge producer. how do you ramp up production like that? >> it was a steep learning curve for sure. we started out of our personal kitchen. >> you can't make that many in our kitchen. >> not at all. we have a co-manufacturer so we have somebody we work with closely to scale a bar recipe and make them according to our, you know, quality and what we want them to taste like and be like. and they're great. they help a lot.
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they definitely help us be able to reach this many stores. >> can you put them on store shelves, too, or just starbucks? it's not an exclusive deal with starbucks? >> not at all, no. we were originally going to grow our regional business and sort of keep expanding a little bit outside of new york. and we'll continue to do that along side this national launch. >> you launched a small business, so it can be done. congrats. that's fun. can we try one? i want the brown sugar one. >> please do. >> once you said butter and salt, it was like -- i'm set. >> i can't wait to taste it. >> congratulations. >> thank you. >> think what she can do when she grows up. when we come back, the s&p 500 hitting a new high. we'll get investment ideas from investment strategists at wells fargo. that is next.
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from worst to first after a hornl start to the year the s&p 500 rallying to new all-time highs. will earnings season keep the second longest bull run in history alive and kicking? it's primetime for amazon. think of it as black friday in july. rolling deals all day long with the number of sellers participating this year doubling. and the live streaming wars are heating up. from facebook to twitter to snapchat, all offering live video services to the masses. how these companies and others are looking to capitalize on the latest trends in social media. ben lair is here to explain as the second hour of "squawk box"
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begins right now. ♪ live from the beating heart of business, this is "squawk box." >> welcome back to "squawk box" here on cnbc, first in business worldwide. i'm joe kernen along with michelle caruso-cabrera. becky was doing great, but, you know, she -- stuff happens when this wonderful thing which you just got back from maternity leave. but there are things that happen and so it's us. just us. >> we hope she feels better. we suddenly have a lot more responsibilities. >> right. and that drill wasn't helping. the whole place was going like that. >> we didn't want to induce labor. >> futures at this hour are higher and we're going to talk more about yesterday's record close by the s&p and the nasdaq in just a minute. we're indicating up another 86
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right now. you stay in a trading range long enough and people think that's a permanent upward limit. >> right. >> when you go from 800 on the dow to 18,000, there are so many upper resistance levels. >> that's a biographical reference you're making. >> it goes back i think in 1980, around there. >> it stopped for ten years, right? >> there were a lot of highs made between 800 and 18,000. and a lot of thechl weren't permanent highs. there's a lot to worry about as we hear every day from all of our guests. >> so much uncertainty. >> there's uncertainty, apparently. i'm uncertain whether there's uncertainty now. >> i am not uncertain about that. i am certain there is more uncertainty. >> you're certain there's more uncertainty? i'm certain there's the same amount of uncertainty. >> all right. okay. here's what's making headlines at this hour.
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alcoa shares on the rise this morning after an upbeat earnings report. beat estimates by 6 cents with quarterly profits of 16 cents per share. alcoa is performing well in a weak environment. 10-year chart hasn't moved. >> it's never been able to get back on track. >> s.e.c. is probing tesla for failing to immediately report a may crash involving a car operating in autopilot mode. that's according to dow jones. however, tesla told cnbc it had not received any communications from the s.e.c. on the issue. the flurry of fed speak continues. dan tarullo and neil cashcarry all scheduled for public appearances today. cleveland fed president loretta
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m megster spoke in australia this morning saying she did not want to see financial market stability evolve into a third mandate for the fed. and a developing story this morning, judges at an arbitration tribunal in the haig -- everything goes to the hague. why does it go there? >> when i was little i thought it was a building, not a country. who is "the"? >> right. across the large swath of the south china sea. the ruling that will be claimed as a victory now by the philippines. judges also found the chinese law enforcement -- colliding with philippine fishing vessels in the sea. and china which boycotted the case said it will not be bound by any ruling and control the
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region is valuable because more than $5 trillion of global trade passes through the south china sea each year. china has been accused of ramping of control by building the artificial islands on reefs on which it has added airstrips and other military-style installations. all right. back to the markets here. it was a record day yesterday. looks like it could be repeated today if it were to hold. the s&p 500 closed at a new all-time high. the benchmark also hit a new intra-day high. nasdaq posted its best close of the year breaking above the 5,000 mark for the first time since last year in december. joining us now is cio of wells fargo investment management. and president of the wells fargo investment institute. and sara malek. thanks to both of you. do either one of you feel really bullish that getting through old
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highs can extend into something tangible for the bulls? like a good return for the year? do either one of you feel that way? >> we still think that equities are the most attractive asset class. in our portfolio for the platinum portfolio group, we recommend investors take a more defensive stance. we're moving to a more balanced portfolio. we are replacing with defense contractor raytheon. this is a good to put on the radar. they have a new ceo that came in in 2014. they invested in rnd. we're seeing the best revenue growth we've seen from them since 2007. >> you like raytheon. all right. darryl, what -- this is what i was singing. it's weird. because you're not going to hit if you're out at 5% correction or 10% correction. or if you're where we've been for the past two years, it's
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hard to make new highs and then extend those when you're 10% below the old high. it's hard to do that. so the only time you can break out to new highs is when you've broken out that first day to new highs. that's the only time you can eventually move higher. yet everybody that comes in here is always negative whenever you're -- it seems like it's like oh, no, this is overdone. at least in the early stages of these things. i've seen that over 20 years. that's the way things are. are we going -- are we going to go to the old trading range? >> i don't know about 2400. but we've actually remained pretty bullish. we remained bullish through the spring and raised our target price to 2,240 by year end 2016. so that's another 5% from here. we've got a range of 2,190 to 2,290. i think the story of this year
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is largely all the things the market could price in that didn't go wrong. we all thought the recession was going in the beginning of the year. we thought emerging markets were going to tip over. they've recovered. certainly dollar/oil has stabilized. so that's actually pushed us through a number of those ranges. >> so you -- you're just a bottoms up. you're not really that concerned with the overall market, right? so what besides raytheon then? >> we are concerned with the volatility in the market. that's why we're looking for companies that have their own catalyst that can do well on their own. companies such as mgm. we don't think it's a gamble to own that company right here. they're opening a new casino later this year. >> where? >> in maryland. they've also been cutting costs. they're ahead of -- >> you were so dry with your pun there i almost missed it. >> raytheon was on the radar.
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>> it's a defensive company. >> also looking at their las vegas convention business. we're seeing more visibilities in business there. so we really like companies like this which have identifiable catalysts. companies you can own in any kind of environment. because we think volatility will continue. >> i always think of tia as a pension fund. and the yields are punishing pension funds aroundhe world. is there going to be hell to pay at some point for these never-met investment goals in some of these? i mean, how does that play out? you obviously just switch to stocks, right? why fight it? >> our focus is basically on finding the right equities to invest in in the portfolios. that's what our group is focusing on. >> most pensions would say they need somewhere between 6%, 7% cash flow to meet distributions, have some type of real rate of return. that's going to be tough to get to over the next couple of
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years. because we've brought forward a lot of the return from the equity markets. bond returns this year have been nothing short of extraordinary across the board. right? but it's across a quality spectrum and everything. they will have to bring it down. i think the expectations. >> so many people are reliant on those thinking they're going to get income and it's just, they're not necessarily in the stock market. they've gone -- they heavily rely on bonds. there's a shortage of them in the world. it sounds very scary to me eventually. right now it's great. but when you don't get your check when you're retiring -- >> i was just looking at this data the other day. when you look at endowment foundations. i think the myth in the market place is that people and particularly institutions have run from the alternative space. when you look at the actual data, they've been increasing allocations to alternatives. >> hedge funds, private equity, blah blah. >> actually able to distribute
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nice cash flow, income, yield in this environment. >> all right. >> great. thank you. movie theater chain amc announcing it's buying odeon and uci cinemas. and ceo adam aaron will join us just a couple of minutes to discuss the deal. all right. coming up, it's primetime for amazon. shoppers can expect to find big deals but for the company it goes beyond free shipping and 50% off your favorite shoes. details of amazon's plans next. and back on capitol hill. loretta lynch will face tough questions in a house judiciary hearing. a chairman of that committee joining us to tell us what they are hoping to hear. "squawk box" will be right back 37
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♪ as amazon embarks on its second annual primeday, expectations are high for consumers and investors. courtney reagan joins us now with more. you're all excited about this. >> we're hours into it already. prime members expect better deals right now. and expect the company to acquire more prime members. that's the key here.
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research partners estimates that 63 million people in the u.s. only are now prime members as of the end of june. amazon has never actually disclosed its total prime member numbers. their goal is to get more to sign up for prime even if it's initially for the 30-day trial. the challenges is to turn them into paying members typically, though, about a 70% retention rate. prime members are more valuable spending about $1200 annually versus $500 a year for non-members. estimates last year's primeday generated between $400 million in sales. this year it could double. there is data that shows primeday actually helps other retailers. especially walmart which is offering free shipping all of this week for anyone as well as a 30-day free trial for its shipping pass membership. and that is actually about half the price of what amazon offers
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for prime. >> exciting. i know anecdotally, courtney, that i'm a prime member and i order more because it's just easier. first thing i do is check does amazon sell what i need. i don't want to ever go to the store again. sometimes i will even pay slightly more on amazon because the customer service is so much better. >> from what store? >> amazon. >> groceries or everything? >> i have everything delivered. >> so do i. >> did you try your megapi pie? >> yes. it's delicious. it's an artisanal pop tart. >> everybody wants to buy food and where they want to buy it is starbucks. how much fun is that for retailing? >> did you see the pockets of joy. >> no. >> i am joyful now because i
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have this much left. okay, sorry. >> i'm going to start selling on my stoop in brooklyn. >> she was on last hour for meg pie if you're just waking up. how important is prime? sounds pretty important to me. but, quantify it for us. >> i love made-up retail holidays? we have done so well with things like valentine's day, mother's day, and father's day. now we made up a new one, prime. let's make up one in july that's one of the crumbiest months of the year. >> it's terrific. >> july is a horrible month. they come out and say we're going to do more business than black friday. we're going to do more business than cyber monday and they do. last year they did $415 million. and this year if they double it, it will be a huge home run. but everybody had big business on primeday last year. >> who's everybody? >> walmart, macys is, target, and -- >> online? >> yeah. this year everybody's playing the game.
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kohl's ad, 20% more off if you buy it online. everybody's playing the game. but amazon is going to have an enormous day. and walmart has already said today for the next five days we'll give you free prime membership, they call theirs shopping pass but it's the same idea. normally it's 49 bucks. now it's free. they get you to play the game, be in for 30 days for free. you can get your delivery. so they're playing the game. they're going to do a big volume in the next few days. they lowered prices for 90 days just to compete with amazon's game here. amazon is going to put in a lot more prime members. >> what about last year when there was that trending hashal primeday fail because they were selling things like shower heads and weed whackers. >> a crappy yard sale. >> when you do $417 million in a day, you don't give a darn about how people say it failed. >> you think they could double it. >> they've got twice as many
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third party players as they had last year. and they've got twice as much stuff on sale. so can they double it? maybe not. but we'll never really know. but they're going to be one heck of a lot better than last year because they've got so many more people buying in and more prime members. i think they've got 70 million members right now. you said 60 and change. but it's going really fast. >> where could they get to? >> where do they get to? well, let's see. they own the world now on online except for alibaba. now, remember, alibaba when they do one of these, does $12 billion, $14 billion in sales. >> but they've got 1.4 billion people in china. you may have noticed. >> i noticed. but my point is you can make this a big business worldwide. and so amazon's trying to make this a worldwide day, not a u.s. day. so i don't think there's any real limit on their ability to make this happen. when you can sell 400 items a second worldwide, can you not sell 800 items a second? sure you can.
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can you sell a thousand a second? yes, you can. >> let me ask you something. you're a retail guy. how much time do you think about their cloud services which is considered to be a huge driver of their growth? >> i don't spend any time thinking about it because amazon's not really part of my group. amazon's destroying my group. so i only focus on their part of the business that's truly retail. but we know they don't make money in retail. all the money they're going to be make is out of the cloud and their services. on the retail side of the business, they've lost money forever and they probably aren't going to be making any in the near future because they run at such low gross margins. >> okay. >> so they really can damage everybody else a lot and they do. and so it makes it very tough to compete with them because they have a zero cost of capital and they have this business that's going to keep everybody investing in them. then they keep running the other side just for volume. and that's not going to change. if you have to compete with amazon especially on primeday,
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you have to give them credit. >> thanks so much. >> thanks. all right. coming up, amc theaters doing a deal across the pond buying london-based odeon and uci cinemas. adam aron will join us after the break to discuss that acquisition. the futures at this hour continuing to show some good gains. open up about 80 points on the dow and up over 9 on the s&p. that would be another new high, obviously. ♪ today, we're seeing new technologies make healthcare more personal with patient-centric, digital innovations; from self-monitoring devices that can interpret personal data and enable targeted care, to cloud platforms that invite providers to collaborate with the patients they serve. that's why over 90% of the top 25 global pharmaceutical companies are turning to cognizant. our domain experts, technologists, digital and data specialists, clinicians and scientists are transforming the way
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movie theater chain amc announcing moments ago it's buying london-based odeon and uci cinemas. it's about a $1.1 billion deal which amc says will make it the largest theater operator in the world. joining us is adam aron, the ceo of amc theaters. >> this is a historic day for our company so i'm delighted to be with you. >> why'd you do the deal? >> we did the deal because the combination of amc and what's known as odeon and uci cinemas
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creates the largest movie theater chain in the world. having the number one position is a great thing for us. beyond that over the past few years, amc has introduced a lot of amenities like reclining seats, better food and beverage, alcoholic bars in lobbies. we're going to bring all those theater renovation skills to europe. we will be a first mover in europe with plush reclining seats for moviegoers. and yet there's another big factor. we're just a few weeks after the brexit vote. the pound versus the u.s. dollar is at a three-decade low. i do believe that we might be the first company to announce a billion-dollar acquisition in europe. taking advantage of the currency exchange rate. i don't think we're going to be the last. there are some real bargains to be had in europe for american companies. >> i want to talk more about that in a second. tell me how do you think it's going to go?
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you have a shareholder event coming up on another deal with carmike. you had to delay it because there was concern about the price. what's up with that? >> well, that's -- you're correct in everything that you said. we had a separate billion-dollar acquisition with carmike cinemas to become the largest movie theater chain in the united states. i think we've heard some concern from carmike shareholders that they think we got too favorable of a deal in the merger agreement we struck. we are a very disciplined buyer. we bought odeon and uci at a bargain price in europe. >> you think the vote's going to go your way? they're going to vote for it or no? >> well, we'll see. we said we're a disciplined buyer. we said that amc and odeon, largest movie theater chain in the world is sufficient appetite for us. if the shareholders don't want to go forward with amc, that's their prerogative. having said that, we are
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committed to both deals. we're interested in both deals. >> but what if they say no? would you pay more? >> we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. right now we're locked and loaded where we are. we are going to be talking with carmike cinemas this week to see if they are ways to salvage the deal. the deal for carmike and amc estimates the shareholders of both companies. it gets marginal quickly above 30. we'll see what happens this week. >> i've interviewed your boss, he says he wants to control 20% of movie theater chains in the entire world. where do you stand if you get both of these deals done? >> well, we're helping him in that regard because we're the second large est player in the united states. we're about to become the number one player in europe. put us together, just amc is the largest movie theater chain in the world. we're on a good start to his
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stated goal to be an important player worldwide. >> got it. adam, thanks for joining us. adam aron, completing the deal this morning for big movie chain. coming up, loretta lynch will be in front of a committee today. bob goodlatte will join us after the break. take a look at u.s. equity futures at this hour. they're positive. what are you doing right now?
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welcome back. among the stories front and center, small business sentiment is on the rise. the national federation of independent businesses says its monthly index rose to 94.5 in june from 93.8 in may. that is the third straight monthly gain. starbucks increasing some prices at its u.s. stores as of today. company says increases will amount to 10 to 20 cents per cup on certain sizes of brewed coffee. and one of the stocks we're watching today is sage therapeutics. they had a phase two trial of a
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new drug to treat postpartum depression. in preparations under way in cleveland. ahead of next week's republican national convention. eamon javers joins us. is that where you are now? where's the rock 'n' roll hall of fame? >> it's around here some place. they are already here putting the finishing touches on the convention center here behind me for the rnc convention. we got an interesting piece of significant political news late last night in which a federal judge sided with a virginia delegate to the republican national convention who does not want to vote for donald trump even though that's the way his state went. the judge saying he does not have to be bound by that commitment. that plays a role in the political uncertainty we might see in this convention next week here in cleveland. the political platform committee also working diligently
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yesterday. we had a chance to stick our nose into those proceedings. interesting developments there because they're coming up with a platform that donald trump may or may not abide by as a candidate or as president of the united states. of course we've got all of this speculations swirling around town today as who donald trump might select as his running mate. a lot here to pay attention to. but we're going to watch the platform committee and the rules committee later on this week with the political intrigue that people think might be coming here. >> who's the fourth? is it flynn or corker? >> well, we're looking at flynn at this point. but he has made -- the general has made some comments about abortion that may or may not disqualify him. tried to walk those back. so that's maybe we're looking at three and a half then. you're looking at newt gingrich, you're looking at mike pence the
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governor of indiana, and governor chris christie. all of whom are doing apprentice style tryouts traveling with donald trump, meeting with him. not clear which way he's going to go. does he feel he needs an established current figure or somebody from the outside just the way donald trump has been a breath of fresh air from the outside into the political establishment here in cleveland? >> eamon, what do you think the rules committee, are they going to surprise anybody and announce there's going to be a vote on whether or not you can unbind the delegates? >> i don't know. you know, that ruling from the federal judge yesterday might make it more likely. might give that side the unbinded delegates side of the argument more momentum. but you talk to republican officials here like i did last night when we got to town. they are not expecting total political chaos. but they are expecting a wild ride, they said. we're going to have to wait and see what happens. my sense just personally having done this for a few years is that the people who are opposing
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trump at this point don't have a candidate. they don't have an organization. trump's got all of those things in his camp. that seems to give him ultimately control here. we'll have to wait and see what happens. it's been a year politically unlike anything we've seen. this could be a republican convention unlike anything we've ever seen. >> and kasich might not even show. >> right. the local tv news this morning was covering kasich. the question is whether he will show. will he speak? will he endorse trump? you know, it's really something when you have a republican governor in a state where the republican convention is and he's saying he's not going to come to the convention. that gives you a sense of just how torn the republican party is. you know, i was talking to a couple of big republican fund raiser types last week. and they said that among the donor class for the republican party, this is really tearing apart friendships. people have known each other for 20, 30 years, worked together.
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some decide to go with trump. some decide to sit on the bench. all those relationships are being torn. you'll start to feel that this week. >> eamon, thanks. back on capitol hill, loretta lynch is going to face some tough questions on the hillary clinton e-mail probe. at a house judiciary hearing this morning. joining us now the chairman of the house judiciary committee bob goodlatte. i don't know, man, congressman. tough to get anywhere. we just talked about grand kids and golf, she could say. although i think bill's only got grand kids and that's a baby. how long would that take? >> it wouldn't take long. and a lot of questions raised by the president earlier on making his own comments about this case. loretta lynch meeting with secretary's husband, former president who appointed her united states attorney when he was president of the united
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states. we have then the fbi director outlining step by step all of the violations of the law she committed. and then saying, however, we're not going to indict her and then the attorney general saying we're going with his recommendation where the custom is "a," the investigators don't usually hold a press conference. and "b," the prosecutors are usually the one who is make the decision about whether or not to indict. so lots of questions. and we will take it step by step. >> it's a little strange when -- i mean, i've seen a cartoon that has justice department people saying, you know, we've launched an investigation of ourselves and we found ourselves innocent. i mean, it's the justice department that's supposed to bring these cases and you're going to be talking to the a.g. so she's going to say -- i mean, i can sort of hear it already. she's very skillful. sometimes i wonder whether the whole comey thing, it was interesting but i wonder if it starts to come back on
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republicans when really you don't have any -- there's no teeth to any of this because you'd have to deal with the justice department which has a political appointee. >> the fact of the matter is there is a case because this justice department has indicted and convicted seven people under the espionage act, five of whom were incarcerated. two of whom had similar circumstances to her. they were not incarcerated but they were convicted. the question here is about hillary clinton. not about the justice department. is she above the law or is she not? what does this say to other americans? >> we found out last week. we already know the answer to that, we don't we? >> i'd like to hear her say it. >> right. well, good luck. i think it'll be interesting to watch. but what about my point that i think they did a poll also, congressman, if secretary clinton had been indicted she'd
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lose like 1% or 2% of her support she already has. i don't know if any of this matters to the people that are going to vote for hillary clinton. >> it may not, but i hope we not lose sight of the fact that in addition to political campaigns and politics, we also have the rule of law and it's one of the chief responsibilities of government and elected officials to uphold the rule of law. and that's what this hearing's about. >> mr. chairman, good luck. at least should be some good theater once again. got all your questions ready. we'll be watching. >> we're ready to go. >> okay. thank you. coming up, facebook live budding as a new news platform while twitter is inking deals to stream the national conventions. look at how social media is quickly becoming the new age of tv. check out the futures at this hour. suggesting a positive open. dow higher by 80 points, s&p by another 9.5. a fresh, new record high. >> all-time high that's never been here before.
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live streaming going primetime. facebook becoming a new hub for video, live events, twitter also trying to up its game in the space inking a deal to stream
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coverage of the gop and democratic conventions on its site. joining us now is ben lair of thrillist video group. this video got more than 54 million views in just two days. told us during the commercial break it's up to 75 million. this is what you call branded content. opposed to unbranded content? >> it's an advertise m. that's the new word for advertisement. >> yes. >> so you don't call them advertisements anymore. you call it branded content. >> facebook live. the ability for everybody to stream video all the time whenever they want. is our jobs in jeopardy here? >> i don't know that facebook live would be the reason your jobs are in jeopardy. there's so many reasons why that would be the case. i think facebook live is just
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another example of how much power facebook has. live is something they want to focus on and they've started to award it in the algorithm. if you are a publishers publishing to facebook, they have said without saying, you have to be making live content if you want us to take your content seriously. >> you know where i'm going with this, right? tv and the phone and the desktop all merging into one. at some point. >> yeah. i mean, tv -- i think what we're seeing is actually like history is repeating itself 30 years later. 30 years ago you had the sort of beginning of cable tv. like, the real beginning of cable tv where every big cable network we know launched. and 30 years later, the pipes have been replaced. so whereas the cable tv pipes were the most important pipes. today it's facebook and google and snapchat. this is where content distribution is happening. the media businesses that are going to be built for the next
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30 years are going to be built on these pipes and not on the cable tv pipes. >> democratization of the ability to go live. the woman streaming the aftermath of the shooting on facebook live. >> yep. >> how -- to use an andrew question, how should we think about that? is that a good thing? is that a bad thing? i mean, what -- >> i think -- well, i think that example was a very upsetting thing but i think it's a good thing in that i think the democratization of anything is generally a good thing. i think there's amazing content being created that hasn't been seen or content that could have been created. and i think it creates opportunity. it's also going to really mess up the media business. and the way people spend their time. you know, back -- people had to select from a specific linear stream of content and scheduled viewing. today the bombardment we have,
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there's more content than could ever be consumed. >> i still don't understand thrillist. a video is relatively new for thrillist. >> it's new for us in we've been creating content for ten years and have a voice and a mission as a content company. now we're figuring out new ways to tell stories. >> it seems that would be -- i'd start with video for content. but you already -- >> well, we started with written articles, with images because that was, you know, just like "the new york times." you know, we started with a format and now we're taking on new formats. >> but obviously important step and one that could eventually be -- >> i think we'll be creating more video than is written a year from now. >> did the cider company -- how did all that work? they say make us a video and we'll pay you this? >> we were spending time with them about what they're trying to accomplish and how they're trying to build awareness for their product. we came up with a content series, a number of pieces of
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contents. some written stuff. some video for how we could help create awareness and help sort of tell their story. and one of those pieces of content was this video that we created that happened to go viral. and the video was really good. i think that the video itself going viral was -- you never know what's going to go viral. many say make us a viral video. that's not what you want to be in. you want to help brands tell their story. >> we have a great brand and our demos are great. we skew a little bit probably older. it would be nice to skew younger. >> that's because of television though. >> well, i want you to create a viral video for "squawk box." >> i just said we don't want to be in the business of creating viral videos. >> how are you going to help us? you think we're going to be out of business for so many different reasons. >> your issue is not going to be related to -- i think you guys create great content here. i think that the challenge is that you guys are going to have are a going to be about distribution and figuring out
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how you're not only reliant on creating content that's on a linear tv stream for people in front of a tv. >> we post on facebook. i posted facebook live from iran. >> and how did that do? i'm curious. >> it was very interesting because the iranians squeezed the pipes so it's very difficult. and they actually don't allow facebook so we had to go around. but super interesting. >> for you guys creating content for different environments and not just taking the existing stuff you do and snip it down and send it out through facebook but think about how you're publishing to facebook live, publishing in the new environments -- >> i got to tell you, i see a lot of junk go by. they get two people who are -- >> it's super early. >> acting like us, trying to act like us and it's not good. if i do say so myself. >> but as a premium content brand, as a brand that stands for something, you guys don't have to sort of fall to that lowest common denominator of brands creating garbage.
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you know how to create great live content. i think there's an opportunity for all brands who are creating premium content to open their minds and how to create outside of the normal pipes. i guarantee you you have big advertisers spending against your tv that would love to spend against this show in different formats. >> i've got to hire you, i think. because i don't know what the hell you're talking about. >> i tried to get him to do a podcast with me. no way. wouldn't do it. >> why wouldn't you do that? >> i'm not on facebook either. >> well, then we have bigger problems. >> these are small problems. but i need to hire you to tell me what to do. >> he just told you to get on facebook. you can log on right now. >> what about my myspace? >> that's probably still the most important. it's good you still have that. >> the producers want to put a camera in my house. >> right.
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so you can be on "power lunch" later in the day. >> that's a good idea. >> right! >> i would say do the camera in the house. >> damn. >> and he's telling you for free. >> we'll see. you bill people, right? >> i don't, actually. >> so if facebook is becoming tv, does their multiple drop down to a more cable or tv multiple? >> well, actually one of the interesting questions is going to be to facebook, snapchat, google, do these companies end up becoming content owners and not just distributors? right now it looks like 10 to 15 cable networks packaged into one. it's the most powerful platform of distribution that's existed. the question is eventually do they -- do they buy buzzfeed or multiple media companies? do they create your own stuff? they recently hires a buddy who had been at college humor who's a content guy to come in and lead content there. >> here's the thing. facebook right now has a
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trailing pe of 72. and they're moving towards doing what we do. right? live stuff. so comcast needs a pe of 72, don't you think? >> it's working on that. >> yeah. >>. >> i would take that. >> at what age does the hipster beard not work, in your view? >> when did you shave? >> i shaved this morning a little bit. this is as short as it's going to get. >> it's good because you're young. is there a -- i was talking about this at home actually. because we were watching some tv show. and the guy, i think he was like late 40s, he looked like -- he didn't look hip. he looked like he lived under an overpass. >> that might just be a specific issue for that guy. >> no, no. harvey wienstein, not good. >> well, that's a different story. >> tell me what age. >> this is really -- i appreciate the -- being thought of as being young, but i really am not an expert. i am young, but i'm not that cool. >> do you know who don johnson is? >> of course i know who don johnson is.
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this is a crazy conversation. >> condescending. yes. very condescending. >> ben, it was great. >> thanks. >> see it's the content. >> look at what's happened here. >> this is awful. coming up -- you told us not to go to the basement. i thought -- okay. stocks you need to watch when wall street opens for business. and then at the top of the hour, a new high for the s&p. the current bull market adding some $13 trillion in the pockets of investors since the low of 2009. nu veen investment's bob doll is going to join us to discuss this market run and if it can continue. here are the futures. up another 84. that'd be another new high. my mom loves giving me advice. she even gives me advice...
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let's take a look at a couple stocks to watch this morning. amc entertainment is buying odeon and uci cinemas group at a deal vailed at $1.2 billion. amc remains committed to buy carmike cinemas. seagate technology, the hard disk drive maker boosted revenue guide for the quarter that ended july 1st. and shire won u.s. approval for a new drug to treat dry eyes. about 16 million americans suffer from that ailment. if you missed it earlier, we were talking a little bit about david cameron's going to resign
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tomorrow. i don't know. i missed the whole election over in great britain. you tell me that mps did something. >> no, the party vote zblps i know what happened. but it's fishy to me. it's no way to run a country, i don't think. >> you want the leader of the country to have been voted in in an election, as you're saying. and they don't do that there. >> what a concept. my point was in all the papers today, they say she landed the job, she was -- she ended up as the person -- those are not -- so there she is. so she is the -- is it madam prime minister? i think it's just prime minister. here it is after i said all that, we found this cartoon. i really don't want it -- she's talking to the queen. and that is theresa may. i really didn't want it to be a coronation. i thought they stepped away from that. it's a symbolic monarchy. >> you've got to check in with the queen over there.
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>> i know you do, but you see what theresa may was wearing. i don't want to call it a coronation, but that's what it is. where's bo jo? >> he would have been so much more fun. >> with the hair and everything else. >> there's another election coming up with lots of hair. still to come this morning, scott cohn has traveled the country to bring us the top states for business. this is a cnbc proprietary thing we do. he's going to join us to reveal number five as we kick off the big countdown. the winner will be revealed on the closing bell later today. this is lulu, our newest dog.
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bring on the bulls. the s&p hitting a record all-time high. and stocks around the world are rallying. but can the summer sizzle last? we'll talk to top market watcher bob doll. the wait is over. bernie sanders finally endorsing hillary clinton perhaps today. >> and we're hitting the court with warrior andre iguodala. we'll get his take on the rise of tech in sports and his new teammate kevin durant. the final hour of "squawk box" begins right now. ♪
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live from the most powerful city in the world, new york, this is "squawk box." >> welcome back. the republican national convention is just a week away and the bush family will be absent from the proceedings. msnbc political analyst spoke one-on-one with jeb bush in kennebunktport, maine, yesterday. it's the first time bush has actually talked about it. welcome back to "squawk box." we're going to talk about what was said. she was previously employed by jeb. you wouldn't think he would necessarily go to msnbc. but i thought his remarks were measured. i thought that anyone asked about hillary, he gave sort of back handed compliments to trump on his use of media and sort of the ability to put people into certain -- he was wonkish and low energy. lying ted. little marco. and he kind of gave -- i mean,
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he did defeat 16 other people. given what donald trump said about both, you know, his brother and even his father, you know, there's bad blood there that wasn't going to be fixed. you can see the dow up 87 points or so. checking out the markets right now in europe. also a lot of green. and certainly, you know, it's not an overstatement to say that everything is confounded. that the apocket liptic version of what was going to happen after brexit. i'll never forget christine lagarde saying -- >> all economists agree. all of them.
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>> she said that with that iron view. just had no clue that she sounded -- the more she talked, the more she made it -- >> almost always wrong. >> the bush interview, we're going to run some in the next half hour. here are some of the stories investors are going to be talking about. you just saw the futures. if that keeps on going, we'll have another fresh record all-time high which is the statement. >> a fresh new record all-time high where the averages have never been before ever. >> that's redundancy upon redundancy. the current bull market has added 12.6 trillion. a tribunal found this morning there is no legal for china the nine-dash line on the map which gives them, they say,
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china saez, gives them much of south china sea. the tribunal suggests that china has interfered with philippines fishing rights. risk of collision with philippine vessels. ben bernanke is in japan this week. he told japanese prime minister shinzo abe the bank of japan has steps available. discussed what the boj can do to achieve sustainable growth. i haven't seen any wripups that say specifically what those steps were. i assume it has something to do with helicopter money. maybe that's a bad assumption. in corporate news, the s.e.c. is investigating whether tesla breached securities laws. specifically regulators are looking into the automaker's failure to disclose to investors that fatal crash that was way back in may involving one of its vehicles with self-driving technology. according to the wall street
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journal, the investigation is in an early stage and may not lead to enforcement action. few stocks on the move this morning. alcoa earnings and revenues topping forecasts even though aluminum prices continued to fall. the company continues to perform well in a low pricing environment. with alcoa expecting strong double digit growth in 2017. sage therapeutics shares announced upbeat results for a phase two trial for a new drug to treat postpartum depression. in the recently concluded quarter. that's a smaller than expected drop. united also said that fuel rices during the second quarter were likely higher than it had previously expected. >> that's weird looking, that chart. all the way up and lost -- >> maybe the rise in oil prices? >> i don't know. >> you know, also, remember
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right after the paris terrorist attacks, dramatic drop in travel to europe. >> i know. jpmorgan ceo jamie dimon weighing in on the wage debate in "the new york times." why we're giving our employees a raise. he's hiking for thousands of employees. he said led to many thinking that the next generation will be worst than the last. many employees who will receive this increase work as bank tellers and customer service representatives. and he says above all it will enable more people to share in the rewards of economic growth. this is not any type of federal mandated program. this is a private company deciding it has the wherewithal to raise wages. let's not get too excited. i think he's going -- did you read he's up to the average -- for the lowest pay goes up to like $10 which is a couple of dollars above $7.
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but it's still, if they want to attract good people, it's smart to do. number two, there's plenty of room. because he's talking about $10 and $12 per hour jobs he's talking about here. no one wants to be in a $10 or $12 an hour job five years after they start at jpmorgan. i don't have any problem with corporations finding a way to do this and it makes sense and can come back. >> i absolutely agree. never should be mandated. i wrote a book where i said i don't think there should be a minimum wage anywhere ever. >> "the huffington post" will write about you calling you cruella de vil. >> the world hates bankers, the elizabeth warrens of the world. if this is the game you got to play, this is the game you got to play. especially when he's been criticized by some for not being
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political enough in the past. >> and jamie's been -- you know, he will tell you he's a democrat. he's been a democrat as long as i've known him. and at one point he said i'm barely a democrat. anyway, the s&p 500 closing at a record high. don chu joins us with what is powering the index. my guess would be stocks. >> that is for the new record all-time high. i'm going to say it again. it's a fresh new record all-time highs. >> get it right. put the average where is they've never been before. >> rarefied air. >> good. good. that's a new one. >> i will say that one as well. let's talk about what's happening right now. speaking of jamie dimon, the big purchase of stock he made on february 11th that called the bottom for at least this year of stocks in 2016. if you look back over a couple of years, yes, we were just where we were about may 20th of last year. as you talk about the s&p 500,
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let's take a look at two of the sectors within the s&p that have joined the s&p 500 at these record high levels. maybe one of them you'll understand. but this one maybe not. industrial stocks as a sector overall are sitting at fresh record new whatever you want to call them all-time highs. industrial is a big part of this rally. we'll see if it continues. the other one is when we talked about over the past few weeks, months, arguably. those div dent paying stocks. toilet paper, paper towels. whatever you want to call them. those things up about 13% over the course of the past year. and they join the s&p 500 at a new, fresh, rarefied air all-time high, whatever you want to call it. there are a couple of places to look that are not yet there in terms of the overall market. the dow and the nasdaq compos e composite. close, but no cigar we'll say. 0.7% away from an all-time high.
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and the nasdaq about 4% away from that as well. michelle, as we talk about what's going to happen internally with the markets, there's a few sectors to watch. financials, they are not near a record high because of the financial crisis. and technology, telecom stocks because of the old dotcom bubble. those are stocks to watch as well. it's going to be awhile, guys. >> cuban? what is that? >> that's a monte kristo. >> light that, less of a fresh all-time high. it stinks. anyway, we are now in full -- there's a backhoe out there. and it is -- they're not doing it right now. but every time that thing goes into the ground, we feel like a fracking earthquake. >> it feels like an earthquake. a fracking earthquake. >> from fracking. now, that's a prison yard. el chapo needs one of those. instead of doing it with a spoon. this is difficult. i honestly think becky got
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nauseous from all this. >> becky was here this morning. she's not feeling well. that's why you're stuck with me. we're doing a show here. >> they don't care. >> it's so loud. >> stop. there's mike. mike, tell them to cut it out. >> hopefully we'll be able to hear bob doll chief equity managing director over the noise. bob, good to see you this morning. >> good morning. >> i'm going to go back to something i said in the first hour. if you read in "the new york times" today where they gently chide the breathless tv reporters about the new all-time highs for stocks. they point out that smart people really look at the bond market and that the bond market in theory is telling you a story for which you should be terrified. help us square that. is it that this stock market and bond market are telling
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different stories? or forcing everybody into stocks because who would want to put their money into a negative yield? >> i think what the bond market is reacting to is what is happening overseas. if we did not have negative interest rates in the world, our 10-year treasury would not be in the mid-ones. it would be probably over 2%. so that sets up a valuation comparis comparison. all of a sudden valuation gets interesting. so i don't think the low interest rates are a reflection of a bad u.s. economy. it's a reflection. which does have economic problems. i think the issue for the stock market is earnings. i'll make three points. one was the first quarter. dollar is no longer going up. earnings are likely to surprise
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to the upside. and number three, to have comparisons in the third and fourth quarter. that's why the market is moving higher. >> in theory, if you have negative rates, you can pay an extraordinary multiple. right? how high? how much should you chase a thing like a utility or something that's giving you a yield in this environment? >> so i can't get my mouth around the words that the multiple is going higher. it could, but that'd be icing on the cake. to me the necessary condition for a better stock market is earnings. i think this bunch to the new high is what it's telling us. we're not going to get better earnings. not great. but good enough. >> all you need is for multiples to stay where they are. but people say they're not going to stay where they are. eventually interest rates are going to go up. but i think between brexit and the previous jobs number which
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pushed out further, that made the multiples more sustainable. so why shouldn't we be at 17 times earnings? >> perhaps we will go there. >> where are we now? >> -- quote dependable earnings and dividend rates have gone higher. i think inside the market that's the tension. do we continue to own the staples or the industrials back to the two sectors that were just reported at new highs? i think you'll lead to the cyclical side of the economy. rates are going to creep higher. because global growth is going to be okay. better than the fears of brexit, certainly. but not vigorous where we're going to get interest rates that threaten the market. >> where is the multiple based on this year and next's s&p. >> i'm guessing a flat multiple of where we've been. >> what is it? i'm asking you what is it. >> 17 times.
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>> 17. at kra iz si stops it's at 22. >> correct. and crazy tops -- look. if we knew where interest rates and inflation are, i.e. very low levels, could be at all-time highs. i think the deflationary fears, the memory of '08 h-'09 will no allow those levels. >> all right. thanks, bob. good to see you this morning. >> all the best. coming up scott cohn is live in one of the states. the sun is now everywhere. see. he's very tricky that way. he won't give us. tell us something, scott. >> well, here we are. we're in the top state for business. we're going to count it down all day. and the countdown is going to begin with state number five coming up on "squawk." a state that i think is going to generate a lot of interest. we'll have that and another
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diabolical hint when we come back.
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one of the most fun days of the year at cnbc because the countdown a on all day on cnbc. we are revealing america's top
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states for business. it's our tenth annual study. scott cohn is in the top state which he will reveal later today on "the closing bell." that's why we don't put a locater above him. but he's going to reveal what? number five? the runner up here, scott? >> this is where the countdown begins. yeah. we're in question mark, question mark, question mark. that's the top state for business. we'll see if you can guess it. a lot of interesting guesses coming in on twitter. the hash tag there is top states. this research began back in february. there is a serious study behind this. you'll be able to see later today where your state stacks up. let's get rolling with state number five. >> north carolina, the tarheel state comes in at number five this year with 1522 out of 2500 points. that's up from ninth place last year. north carolina's best category
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is access to capital. the second best in the nation. money flowed into the state last year both venture capital and small business loans. that despite a raging controversy over the state's lack of inclusiveness. not only has the so-called bathroom law drawn criticism from business, this is one of only five states with no discrimination protections for non-disabled people using public facilities. that hurt the state badly in our quality of life category where it lands in 30th place. jock growth was healthy last year but unemployment remains above the national average. north carolina's individual income tax rate is 5.75%. the state and local sales tax tops out at 7%. north carolina's largest employer is walmart. the largest industry is manufacturing. this is north carolina's sixth appearance in our top five. its best finish? third place in 2011.
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so we were reporting last week from raleigh asking the question about whether north carolina could be competitive with all of those issues with the discrimination protections. the answer by the numbers is clearly yes. but by those same numbers, if north carolina did not have that bathroom law and all those issues, it almost certainly would be in second place this year. and it's very possible that that would be where i was standing today. but it's not. so where am i? let's give another hint about the top state. original colonists. what could that be? tell us what you think. the hash tag is top states. guys? >> scott, did -- distinguish -- who was last year? virginia? >> last year was minnesota? >> minnesota. that's right. so whenever things change, is it because things change in the states? or do we sort of -- last year
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that became more important. >> no. it was pretty consistent with last year. the thing that changes from year to year is how we weight these ten categories. it's based on -- the heaviest category is the workforce followed closely by cost of doing business, infrastructure, economy, and down the line. and again we have all of that including our sources this year at top states.cnbc.com. >> so is last year's in the top five? >> you got to watch all day. i mean, you know b, i could be -- >> i'm not asking you for the number one. i can't even get a -- is it in the top ten? is it bigger than a bread basket? >> it's bigger than a bread basket, yeah. >> i knew that's all it would give me. >> i don't know what that means.
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>> me either. they're all bigger than rhode island. >> thank you. scott cohn. >> i thought i knew yesterday. but now that new clue may be -- >> something that doesn't mean one of the original colonies. some other -- >> okay. >> that looked out west, didn't it? >> i'm guessing west. coming up, it's good to be taylor swift. it doesn't suck to be taylor swift. that is for sure. $170 million made in the last year. the pop star topping forbes list of highest paid celebrities. oops. we'll tell you again how much she made next if you weren't listening. as we head to break, check out the market milestones from yesterday's close. the s&p 500 hitting a fresh new all-time never been there before record high. "squawk box" will be right back. ♪
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taylor swift taking the number one spot on the 2016 forbes list of the highest paid celebrities so far away above anybody else. it's just incredible. the pop star earning 170 million over the past year following the success of her 1989 world tour. for 2016. and the earnings are the highest
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of her career more than doubling last year's $80 million. >> you got to follow her on instagram, dude. it's fun. >> i've seen two of her concerts. she works so hard at those concerts, does so many concerts. she had that one little -- i mean, she had that thing with who was that? kanye or something? >> he was mean to her on stage. what a jerk. >> and she was also a little pitchy and she just -- soldiered on and it's amazing. >> the haters gone that hate hate hate hate. >> coming up, stock up more than 40% this morning. when we return. hi daddy! gain the freedom to fumble with the new water and shatter-resistant samsung galaxy s7 active. buy one now and get the samsung gear s2 for free. exclusively at at&t.
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welcome back to "squawk box" here on cnbc. what's making headlines this morning? well, the personal computer market continues to slump but not as badly as the negative forecasts. new figures show that idc show that pc shipments were down 4.5% from the last quarter compared to last year. that is a smaller drop than the 7.4% that idc had forecast.
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and hillary clinton will, in fact, receive intelligence briefings ahead of november election despite protests from house speaker paul ryan. in a letter to ryan, the director of national intelligence james clapper said he would not withhold briefings from any officially nominated candidate for president. and shares of sage therapeutics are surging this morning. involving a trial for a new drug to treat postpartum depression. joining us here with more is meg tirrell. is it different than other antidepressants? >> no. there's nothing strictly approved for postpartum depression. so sage therapeutics is testing
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this truck which works on a different way on the gaba resenters on the brain. there's a chemical in the brain that goes down and so helping keep that chemical at higher levels, they can help with postpartum depression. so this was a small phase two study they conducted of its drug sage 547. what they found is in a majority of women in this study, i believe 10 of 11 i think in the treatment arm achieved remission after 60 hours of treatment. and then several kept it out until 30 days. and so this is pretty exciting. estimates are up to 15% of women experience postpartum depression. that's a large number of people without great treatment options right now. >> it's a bill? injection? >> right now this is their lead molecule. their most advanced they're testing is an iv infusion. and the treatment time is 60 hours right now.
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>> across the blood brain -- does it need to get into the brain? >> i think it acts on the gaba. but this is something to ask the ceo who's coming on "power lunch." >> good, michelle. remember that question. >> yeah. >> and this is phase two. that's only for safety. i'd be worried immediately about messing with brain levels. >> exactly. and so what they actually found was that adverse events were more prevalent in the placebo arm than in the safety arm. they're being careful. it's a small study. >> and what does gaba do? it makes the end product of gaba is the -- >> the brain chemistry is something i'm still learning, to be honest. you asked the iv question. 60 hours of iv treatments are intense. they're developing a pill as well. that's another drug in their pipeline. it's all around this brain chemistry. they're also testing this in a severe form of epilepsy.
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they're going to take them into other mood disorders as well. >> so you have to be in the hospital for two and a half days for an iv? >> yes. that's why they're developing a pill. this is very severe postpartum depression. there's nothing out there for this. that's why the stock is really surging this morning. now to politics. the republican national convention is just a week away. the bush family will be noticeably absent from the proceedings. msnbc analyst nicole wallace spoke one-on-one with jeb bush yesterday. >> trump, you know, to his credit was very smart at exploiting these kind of opportunities. he's a master at understanding how the media works. more than anybody i've ever seen in politics. kudos for him for kind of creating the environment and then manipulating the environment to his effect. the tragedy of this, though, is
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that there isn't going to be a wall built. and mexico's not going to pay for it. and there's not going to be a ban on muslims. none of that is -- this is like an alternative universe he created. the reality is that's not going to happen. and people are going to be deeply frustrated and the divides will go in our country. in this still will continue to stagger instead of soar. and that's the heart breaking part of this is i think people are going to really feel betrayed. >> joining us now from washington, john harwood. there's probably not going to be a nationwide $15 minimum wage. there's probably not going to a single payer health care system or public option. there's probably not going to be free education for people that make less than $125,000. the second bush didn't reform social security which he promised to do. we're not out of guantanamo. so, you know, i guess that's somewhat interesting to list all
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the things that aren't going to be done. you never know until you try, do you? >> well, i think you're right about most of those things. they will not happen. i think the difference that jeb bush would be highlighting is that the -- some of the aspirations that democrats are pushing are at least a little bit more in the realm of the normal where donald trump is talking about things that his own party -- >> john, no. securing the southern border, i don't know. maybe it's -- i don't know whether it's a wall or something else. but that -- you know, i don't know if i -- i mean, it can be hyperbolized and you can make it sort of a talking point, hold it up as like a great big terrible ugly wall that no one can get over with barbed wire or make it something that means we're going to secure the southern border. and actually enforce the rule of law that we have in terms of
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immigration. the other one is what he's changed to not muslims but from specific areas where there's active oois sis involvement. >> country, yeah. >> i'm not sure that free college education is an easy -- it may sound more politically correct. i mean, who doesn't want free education? i want that too. i wish the government would cut me a check for about $10 million and for everybody else. so i could probably sell that. but, you know, i'm not sure what it means. you know, i thought jeb was fairly measured. and given how -- >> i thought so too. >> and given how acrimonious that the whole primary season was and what was said about his father and his brother and everything else, you can't expect jeb ever to really come around. and i'm sure his feelings are still hurt. so i thought it was a pretty -- you know, he didn't take the -- i mean, romney was a thousand times worse with what he said.
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his bitterness. >> yeah. and i think the way that jeb bush was talking in that measured way gives you a sense of some of what was lost in terms of his ability to lead and govern. he wasn't a successful primary candidate. and he acknowledged that. but he's got a lot of brains and he's got a lot of -- >> yep. good policy. >> -- governing ability. he's smart. >> he wasn't the right guy. history, it wasn't the right time for a third bush. can you tell me about -- >> joe, don't you think it's interesting that his brother is going to be appearing with president obama today at the service in dallas but of course is not going to be attending the republican convention. >> only in the sense that it's a former president and it's a totally different sort of appearance. >> oh, yeah. sure. >> who's going to be the veeps
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on both sides? >> i think it's going to be clinton/cain and trump/pence. donald trump will appear with mike pence tonight. after a flurry of speculation after going to a general like mike flynn that he is leaning toward the political choice. i think mike pence would give him more youth and vibrancy. it would be very old ticket if it was newt and donald trump. >> right. >> and mike pence is very solid among conservatives. he's solid among religious conservatives. he also has a tough re-election race in indiana that vice presidential contest might be an exit, escape route. now, tim kaine is somebody who, again, very collegeial. although he is pro-life, that's something that some in the party
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complain about. but that didn't stop him from getting elected governor of virginia, democratic national committee chair, and because his democratic buddy terry mcauliffe is now the governor, if he gets picked it will not cost democrats a senate seat which is critical because they -- if they win the senate, it might be by very nar row margin. >> we'll check back with you. thanks. coming up, golden state warrior andre iguodala is here. we'll get his take on technology and his new teammate kevin durant. >> and we head to break, take a look at the equities. stick around. you're watching cnbc, first in business worldwide. tokyo-style ramen noodles.
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sports and technology are more intertwined than ever. and perhaps nowhere is that more true than the bay area. now the association want to drive their members further into tech. with us is andre iguodala. he is a golden state warrior and a member of the 2015 championship team. so close. i was sure that -- that was pretty amazing for basketball. was it okay? are you okay with -- i mean, for basketball it's good, right? >> for basketball it's good. business is doing really well. >> it certainly is. >> interest is at an all-time
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high. we broke almost every record throughout the course of the finals. even the western conference finals. so that's a good time for basketball players and basketball owners. >> and we did talk a little bit off camera. i mean, with technology. you're there. you can't help but be -- i don't know. there are different parts of the country known for different things. if you're out there right next to silicon valley, there's no way by osmosis. >> right. at the heart of the tech industry. we have our ownership -- part of our ownership has come from the tech industry as well. a lot of connections have been made, a lot of networking. they've really embraced our team. you know, i've tried to spearhead that communication between the athletes and the tech industry. >> you guys might feel good you might have some seed money. talk about that a little bit. steph curry doesn't make nearly as much as some guys that -- >> i've never heard of --
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>> that aren't named steph curry. >> timing is everything in nba. got a new tv deal. i believe it's about $24 billion. just starting to kick in. so the money just started this year. you got a lot of guys -- >> he's making what $10 million. >> steph's around $12 million. >> what is he supposed to be making? >> he'll make what he's supposed to make next year. >> what will that be? >> around $25 million. $26 million. the owners are doing well. the money's split in half. >> he shouldn't get as much as mike holly $153 million over five years? >> timing is everything. i don't know even if michael jordan was a top paid mplayer - >> that's another thing. when you're on a team that wins a lot, you get a lot of notoriety as we should. and steph has proven he's the best point guard and best player arguably in the world.
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he has about 12 months. >> how many games did you win regular season? >> last year we won 73. >> so kevin durant comes. i'm ready to go 93. but people tell me that's not the way it works. i think if a guy -- steph curry has a team pit and that's great. but shouldn't kevin durant be able to come in there and be additive and it's not going to be a problem with the way golden state functions as a team? it's going to be a great addition. >> it's a great addition. you know, i was in a few meetings trying to get him to -- persuade him to come our way. hopefully i had some type of impact. happy he's going to be a big impact to our team. >> it doesn't seem fair. you were golden state last year. now you're golden state plus kevin durant this year. i would be protesting. >> it's like having a great cast in a movie. everybody's going to play their roles and then some guys, you know, are going to do a little bit less for the better of the
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team. kevin was willing to sacrifice. but we're not going to make him do that too much. >> can we go back to the money board? i understand you're involved in trying to avoid the awful story of the nba player who makes tons and tons of money and then blows it. >> i wouldn't consider it blowing it, but not having a proper education or understanding of how finances and money work. >> there's a lot of unscrupulous -- >> majority of nba players, you know, bring in there's not much financial education. especially a lot of the school systems. we didn't have an opportunity to go to private schools and then when you get to college, they never teach you how to start a credit line or how to get a loan on a car, things of that nature. in nba at a young age, because the talent's taken us out of the position that we came from. the nba players association and the nba as well, we're making really long strides in getting players the right information and education.
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>> can i see your phone? >> yes, you can see my phone. >> they told me you carry a cracked phone. >> i do have a cracked phone. >> this one isn't cracked. you carry two phones just like me. >> yes. >> why do you have a cracked phone? i was supposed to ask about the phone you didn't want to replace? >> just didn't feel like i should buy another one. >> you don't like to spend money. that's a good trait. >> yeah. i have my vices, but i try to save as much as possible. >> what are your vices? >> i don't think you bought that at joseph a. bank. >> mens warehouse. >> beautiful. so this is july 19th. this is the first one, right? >> yes. >> and you're sort of spearheading it, right? i'm talking about -- what are we calling it? >> nba players association tech summit. >> tech summit. >> yes. >> you'll go from "a" to "z." you'll start with pretty basic stuff and go right into -- >> during the crash course in the tech industry. and nba players were directly
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involved with the tech world whether we know it or not. and media content and wearables, you know, directly -- >> can anyone come to this? do i have to be an nba player? >> so there is a gap between -- >> i need this. i'm not on facebook. how tall do i have to be? >> current nba players and former nba players. as you know, the average career for nba players is three to four years. >> yeah. so we always try to give our players many options post-retirement to, you know, get into life after basketball. because there are many, many years of life. >> it's a great idea. and you -- you know all this stuff already and you're going to help guys? >> i don't know all of it, but i've been through it a lot. i had a lot of help with, you know, different houses. ben horowitz -- >> those are good names to drop. that goes a long way on cnbc,
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yeah. >> they've helped me out a ton. i got a chance to meet warren buffett once and keith lampert dropped some gems on me not too long ago. been able to meet some interesting people who have, you know, helped me in know, helped turn, i want to help out my fellow nba players. >> great, thanks. we'll be watching next year, too. >> looking forward to it. it will be fun. >> it will be a good rematch. >> it's not set in stone. we've got some good teams in the east. >> who else? >> spurs are always a great team. and they just signed paul gasol. you've got to be careful of what popovich has under his sleeve. >> people have doing a lot of dying. >> i like derrick rose for the knicks. they have a very nice lineup. >> is ben simmons going to be a great player? >> only time will tell. >> we have a kid named chris
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dun, and i like the young kid in l.a. who just came from duke. ingram is his name. he's about 6'10". >> he's from providence. >> i like the lakers kid. he's about 6'10", 150 pounds. once he gains some weight -- >> that's lebron's leg. >> thanks for coming in, good to see you. when we return, jim cramer will join us from the new york stock exchange, don't move.
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let's talk to jim at the new york stock exchange. so far so good, jimmy, with what we've been talking about, it looks like another strong session, like the global markets are almost in sync. we're going to get all of these earnings -- friday's the day, obviously. what should -- are financials important and will there be glimmers of something to keep this going when we see those? >> i think there were two-parts of what was wrong with the negligen financials last time, the other was the recognition they had huge numbers of oil loans that looked like they were going to go bad. oil has doubled since then, so
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maybe a little bit less secur y securitity. united reported a little bit better than expected revenue, and that's igniting the airlines. that's been -- joe and i have been around. let's get the airlines going. people just say the transports are not confirming. if the airlines get going, you're going to be surprised. you have the banks and airlines going higher. these are groups that haven't participated so i like it. >> i was trying to figure that out. what was it, jim? what happened in the last five months? >> i think michelle was right. i think we under estimated at a level of gloom, also stronger dollar, but i think people were afraid to go to places, and i -- you know, that really hurts these international airlines. notice southwest is only down about 4%. these guys rolled down 25, 26, 27, because they're international carriers, and i think you get any sesation of weakness, next thing you know, you've got a group that can bust
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out that's done nothing and the guys fighting this rally, joe, they're going to start losing something. can we all just focus let's say on apple. apple is not over 100. we're going to rubout n out of options to say this market's bad. >> and i'm still hearing it. sometimes people think i'm being rude to them. analysts say we're at the high-end of the range and there's a lot of uncertainty and i think it's going to be very volatile. that's what you want to hear, though. >> i thought c-gate was going to cut its dividend. that was last night. and a lot of people giving up for debt. look at this thing. it's soaring for a take over. amazon prime, maybe this is gigant gigantic. how about people saying pekomon go, wow. >> r. donnelley said, who was that guy john walter, and i
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look, robert allen, that was a couple years ago. do you know that was, like, 20 years? >> time flies. >> all right, guys. >> see ya. >> squawk will be right back. don't move.
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amazon's second annual prime day is in full swing. some customers reported difficulty with check out. in a tweet, amazon is working to resolve the issue. >> so you hear tomorrow night? >> i don't know. i think we're going to hear later. >> make sure you join us tomorrow. "squawk on the street" is next. i'll be here. good monday morning, welcome to "squawk on the street," i'm carl quintanilla, the new york stock exchange, a day after the s&p hits a new high, futures indicate the blue chips could get very close and the nasdaq might go green for the first time in 2016. european markets are stronger, and the uk up over

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