good monday morning, welcome to "squawk alley," i'm carl quintanilla with kayla toushy, john ford also with us from san francisco. we're going to begin with the latest on the bombings in new york and new jersey over the weekend. police and federal agents now searching for a suspect. our morgan brennan is live with the latest. good morning again, morgan. >> reporter: good morning, carl. so the man hunt is very under wayrahami, a 28-year-old male from elizabeth, new jersey, who the fbi considers armed and dangerous. he's believed to be operating a 2003 blue honda civic with new jersey registration, license plate d 63 eyb. he's being sought for the

bombings that have occurred over the last three days in new york and new jersey. he's the same man caught on surveillance video at both manhattan crime scenes, so who is rahami? not much is known at this point, but we do know he was born in afghanistan but is a u.s. citizen. nbc's pete williams reporting according to a u.s. law enforcement official, a key piece of evidence was a fingerprint found on one of the unexploded devices. new jersey state police say he's also wanted for questioning in connection with saturday's seaside heights explosion. officials have now officially linked all of these incidents. earlier this morning authorities searched a fried chicken restaurant in biz bett, new jersey, whose owner is listed as mohammed rahami. all this unfolding as andrew cuomo says it looks like the bombing that happened here in manhattan's chelsea neighborhood on this zrestreet, 23rd street, could be an act of terrorism with a foreign connection.

in all, four crime scenes, two in new jersey, two in new york, including this one where the street does remain closed to the public. we should be getting more details at a briefing with new york city mayor bill de blasio, nypd commissioner jimmy o'neal, that starts at 12:30 eastern. guys? >> thank you very much for that. we are getting word the president will deliver a statement relatively soon, we believe. also the new york city police will hold a press conference at 12:30 eastern time. hillary clinton speaking on the attacks in a news conference this morning. she called on americans to, "be vigilant, not afraid," and she also asked for the tech community's help in the fight against terror. take a listen. >> we need to work more closely with silicon valley and other partners to counter terrorists propaganda and recruitment efforts online. we're going to stay focused on what will work and how we deploy a strategy that will protect america, work with our allies and partners, to take isis down

and have a strong counterterrorism effort online in order to try to defeat the ideology that stands behind these terrorists attacks. >> joining us with more this morning, shelly palmer with palmer advanced media, steven levy, editor and chief of back channel. good to see both of you together. this is interesting, reaching tout to silicon valley, steven, that relationship between tech and the government has been troubled of late. >> incredibly troubled ever since the snowden relations, where it turns out the government was sucking up all the information that google and yahoo! and others from their data centers that they thought was private about their customers. there's not been a lot of trust there. more recently the clash with apple, who wanted to encrypt its data there, and that's something i'm sure is going to come up as people talk about the bombings in the future there. specifically what she's talking about is the recruiting online, and it sort of makes sense to

say, gee, we don't want twitter or facebook or other places to be platforms to recruit terrorists, but on the other hand it's hard to surgically remove those bits, which are terrorist recruitment videos from other forms of free speech. >> well, so much of tech, shelly, is moving towards end to end encryption. the companies said users' privacy is paramount, so what more can washington and silicon valley do together? >> there's a tremendous amount. first of all we're dealing with a decentralized enemy and what they are doing is using common tools now to propagate ideas, and ideas are very hard to kill. i'm not sure you want to force them underground and off twitter and facebook, because they are very visible. what you want is machine learning algorithms to understand what's being said and how it leads to various outcomes, and that is inside our capability, both from the law enforcement side, as well as just from the private sector side. being able to analyze sentiment

is something advertisers have been trying to do for a very long time. they are advertising hate and advertising they are going to do harm. the same tools we used to advertise, and i hate to use this word, targets in advertising, we can identify targets in terrorism. there's two fights. >> why do you think this isn't already happening if the ability is there? >> it is happening. on a given day the tool sets are better than other tool sets, today we're better than them, tomorrow they are better than us. they have volume on their side and we have machine learning on our side. at a certain point we're going to pass their volume because the capabilities of the computational power will exceed their ability to use volume to beat it, but it's hard. there's no question about it. >> i'm thinking, steven, we used to go to the post office to see an fbi wanted poster. today everyone got it at the same time. >> yes. >> like a tornado going to hit. >> right. in the halls of the u.n. phones were going off with this picture this morning. >> no, that was impressive, and i think as a statement about

that, you don't want to overuse that, to have the thing go off the all the time and say i don't care, when it turns out there is a tornado barrelling down the roads toward you. the machine learning thing is really interesting. we've made huge advances of this, but i think machine learning is a lot better when we're identifying images in google photos and faces even in trying to get sentiment there. all you need to do is look at the facebook trending topics and see sometimes they pick things that are fake news stories to see we're not where we want to be on that stuff. >> i don't disagree with that statement, but i'd say there were two fights here, one is the technological fight, and by the way, good or bad, they are the best we have right now. sentiment analysis have been able to analyze natural language processing, et cetera, it's going to get better and better and better. the second, much more important fight, is the one against the ideology, that can recruit without physically talking to whoever it is they are recruiting. and this narrative has to be countered and it's not as simple

as trying to kill the idea, because history has shown us it is really hard to kill an idea. so a counternarrative must be mounted and every human being in the world who has a cell phone, who has an online connection, has an ability to be part of this narrative. they are fighting every day to get the hate out there, not everybody, only a certain few. all of them are working towards making it bad, not all of us are trying to make it good. it's a big issue. >> i think people understand what you mean. let's switch gears a bit. john ford is live at open world in san francisco, where he just caught up with mark hurd a few moments ago. john, some highlights? >> yeah, carl, these topics are connected at oracle openworld. oracle is the biggest database company in the world and if you want to search through a bunch of information, if you want to store and organize a bunch of information digitally, you need a database. i talked with mark hurd about national security issues, it gets complicated globally, but

right now a lot of what oracle is focused on is the cloud. here's what mark hurd said about that focus this year. >> several years ago we made the decision as part of this overall strategy to go all in on the cloud. we changed our organization to do that, we changed our incentives to do that, in addition to releasing a lot of great products. in q1, our cloud growth in dollars combined with our new software license dollars grew 16%, so really to us it's the combination of those two that are important and the fact that cloud growth was so high, we grew our cloud in q1 82%. >> it is a difficult balancing act, of course, when you've got a legacy business that's very large as that comes down in the cloud era and the cloud business goes up, but oracle trying to make the argument kind of apple-like, that they've got this vertical integration, they do hardware and hardware as a service, they do platform and

database, and they do applications, of course, they just announced they want to buy net suite and have clearance in every country except the u.s. to do that. they are arguing they can put all that together for customers in a way that makes the cloud faster and more usable than from the likes of amazon, microsoft, but, of course, everybody's got their own argument and amazon continues to be in the lead. we'll continue to see here at openworld how oracle's develops. >> good stuff this morning. i would love to know how you're handicapping this rivalry, which is developing faster than anybody thought. >> first, let's take a minute to appreciate larry ellison. the guy is older than donald trump, older than hillary clinton. he's still in there, and i think sales force and amazon and these competitors are keeping him really super energized, out there. that said, oracle is late on this, you know, oracle, the two big breakaways from oracle, sales force and net suite, so

now oracle is trying to buy net suite and coming up against sales force, they say, has their big competition in terms of concept there, right? so it's tough for them to catch up. amazon is way ahead in terms of that. their culture is built on the cloud, whereas oracle's isn't quite yet. >> larry ellison in his keynote took direct aim at amazon, as we just heard, but it was sales force, shelly, that unveiled einstein deep learning hours before the event kicked off. how should we be reading between those lines? >> truthfully, this entire industry is fighting not each other, but the future. because where we are right now is where power was when everybody had a different kind of power company and there wasn't a municipal grid. at a certain point these companies are going to have to offer more than just storage and computing power, whether it's plug and play machine learning, plug and play tool sets, you're going to have to be able to run your business and a normal person is going to have to be

able to do it, because the high end already there is already there and the ctos who are going to make the decisions to use some kind of cloud tools already have a faith-based reason to use s.a.p., ibm, oracle, amazon, because all technology is faith based, so we're going to see how they all look at the future. you can't handicap any one of them. the biggest, baddest at the moment, but it's not hard to catch up in a certain way because the technology is increasing at a rate nobody's ever seen in history. >> john? your thoughts? >> guys, here's what i think is interesting, especially when i look at this from an investor's perspective, from a technology enthusiasts' perspective, i look at the transition to the web back in the late '90s, open source in the early 2000 and the transition to mobile in the latest 2000s, and in those cases a lot of the legacy tech companies were really slow out of blocks. this time with the cloud it doesn't look to me they are necessarily as slow out of the

blocks. the question is, whether the likes of particularly microsoft and oracle are fast enough to create viable, profitable, quickly growing businesses to actually be some of the last people standing in these cloud wars that we have yet to see. my sense is they are not as far behind. >> it's the profitable part. this is going to quickly get kmodtized. this is supply and demand and storage is getting cheap and bandwidth is getting cheaper. if you're not value adding to that, same problem the content companies are having, verizon made a content bid, why? you tell me. >> you don't think they are appearing victories, steven? >> the comical moment to me was when he said we're going to be cheaper than amazon. oracle is not going to beat amazon on pricing. give me a break. >> safra catz joining us 1:00 p.m. today. we're going to move on, talk

samsung really quick. selling stakes in other tech companies now as it looks to raise cash. of course, they recalled two and a half million phones, something estimated to cost over a billion dollars. meanwhile jpmorgan calling positive over the 7 at apple premature, saying sales more likely to be in line with cautious forecasts. they currently have an overweight on the stock. let's handle samsung first, guys. i saw a note today analysts kfring air freight say it could boost air freight, all those replacement phones. that's crazy, that's a lot of freight. >> this is a brand new note7, it actually is a replacement unit. i was very clear to say to everybody the phones don't explode, the batteries explode, so that's important to understand, the defective lithium ion batteries are dangerous no matter what. you can make it dangerous by overheating it, injuring it, crushing it, so samsung is going to do the best they can and, yeah, i think they are going to

have to raise a little money to cover the cost. this is going to be an expensive mistake. >> longer term, there's reports they've identified the supplier where this problem actually took place, but does samsung need to go back and rethink supply chain for future devices and future products? >> definitely. they were in a rush to do this. they have apple on their mind always, and they basically blew up. they screwed the pooch on this one for lack of a better term. and the timing was so good for apple, you almost wonder how could apple have not been involved in this? it was so amazing, right? but the long-term thing is interesting because apple sort of promised for the 20th anniversary, which isn't too far away, it's january, that's going to be the new design of a new phone and things like that, so we've had a big push of people who had old iphones coming up and lining up in stores to buy

it now. what's going to happen during the hollywood season with the specter of a new iphone in january looming? >> that's the short term, but in practice this is an iterative iphone with one exception, the headphone jack. there's no additional headphone jack in the iphone 7. everything you have to buy is new and i made a joke about it. look, seriously, you can't charge it while talking on it or listening to music without wireless headsets? >> you have these things. >> they don't sound better. that's not an advance in technology. >> the interesting thing is this, the fault is not the music controls, it's the siri controls. the future of the wireless thing is not about listening to music, it's about having a conversation with your phone while your phone is in the pocket. >> as opposed to having a conversation with somebody you need to speak to with your phone on your desk. >> that's old school. >> john, you got a question here?

>> well, i think the question is, what happens to samsung's reputation going forward. at some point, even before the holiday season, does this start to be about the quality of the note7 again and not about the recall? we look at dell and others who have had massive battery related recalls, doesn't seem like they took a huge reputation-related hit, just as long as they handled it well enough. what do you guys think? >> i think that's absolutely right. look, the thing that you see online now is people say samsung blows up. that's sensationalist and shouldn't say that. they have a battery problem, you're right, batteries were rushed to market, but they found it and corrected it. is it a long-term reputation issue? i hope not. >> this must be a moment, because this was the time where people were saying apple's finally getting beaten on the design front. >> yes, absolutely right. >> there's apple saying here's our new phone, but designwise it's not much different. >> steven, shelly, you guys are so good together, thank you so

much. steven levy and shelly palmer. we are getting breaking news. back at hq with that. sue? >> nbc's pete williams is telling viewers and us a man has been taken into custody after firing at police near the scene in elizabeth. it's unclear whether this is directly connected to the bombings in new jersey and new york city that occurred over the weekend, but at this point police have, according to pete williams, taken a man into custody after he was firing at police. he is reportedly in lyndon, new jersey, but that is only four miles from elizabeth, new jersey, which is considered the store there is considered a crime scene and police are on that site. so, we're trying to confirm whether or not -- excuse me one second, i'm just taking a look at this nbc flash. a man has been taken into custody after shooting at

police, and wnbc is reporting that ahmad rahami is that man. that's wnbc reporting that. they are saying that he has been taken into custody after shooting at police officers in lyndon, new jersey, which once again, is only about four miles from his family's home and from the store that police have surrounded, so wnbc is reporting that he has been taken into custody. we're going to continue to follow what is a developing story and breaking news. carl, i'll send it back to you. >> we will definitely stay on top of that one, sue herrera back at hq. meanwhile, we watch the market, been on a tight range all morning long, up about 100 points, nasdaq 100 set an all-time high this morning. vics is relatively muted, oil helping out. monday starting out with a okay price action. >> telecom is the only financial in the red. we have the fed and the bank of japan both meeting this week and

usually that's a bearish sign for that sector. >> once we get more details on the investigation we'll get that to you right away. you're watching "squawk alley." don't go away. and reunited three decades later for a tour that sold out in three minutes. and your cisco hybrid cloud handled millions of ticket orders without breaking a sweat. before all of this, [ crash ] the experts at cdw orchestrated a cisco hybrid cloud solution. scalability by cisco. orchestration by cdw.

we've been telling you all morning long about ahmad khan

rahami, a u.s. citizen of afghan descent, born in afghanistan, who was sought in connection -- was asked to come in for questioning for the chelsea and new jersey bombing over the weekend. nbc news reporting rahami has been captured after a shooting incident involving police in lyndon, new jersey, sources telling nbc news he's now en route to a hospital. we're trying to get some more details on how exactly that all went down, but clearly, 30-some-odd hours after the event, the fbi and police appear to have the man they wanted to question. we'll be learning a lot more in the next few moments, the president is expected to speak in just about a minute. >> all stemming from the fact according to nbc news a fingerprint from rahami was found from one of the devices that had not detonated. of course, multiple devices in two states over the weekend, dozens of people injured, but thankfully, no fatalities, which

is different than the type of situations like these that we normally cover, and we're thankful for that. >> the bombing, the fallout from all that, the investigation, has it not been driving markets largely today. it's more about oil. obviously, people thinking about what the boj and fed will say over the next couple of days, but it has been driving the conversation between the campaign and election. hillary clinton has done a press avail this morning in which she talked about conducting, calling for an intelligence surge, accelerated air campaigns against islamic state strongholds. john harwood was with us earlier this morning watching that, watching the trump campaign's response to that, and in a moment, john, the president's response to all of this. >> yes, and i expect the president to come out and talk about -- >> in fact, here is the president. >> the explosions that occurred here in new york city and new jersey and the other device that

have been found in new jersey. i've been monitoring the situation closely and receiving frequent updates from my team, and i've just been briefed again by fbi director comey, in addition i've had a chance to speak with governors cuomo and christie, as well as mayor de blasio. we've seen what was apparently a pipe bomb go off in new jersey, in seaside park, where it could have seriously injured our u.s. marines and spectators who were there for a race. the bombing in the chelsea neighborhood here in new york injured more than two dozen people. we are extremely fortunate and grateful that nobody was killed. our prayers go out to all of those who have been injured. we want to wish them a speedy recovery. i especially want to commend all the outstanding police and first responders in both new york city and new jersey for their extraordinary professionalism and their quick response, which surely prevented even more people from being hurt, and

ensured that people got assistance quickly. the investigation is moving rapidly, and as is my practice i'm going to leave it to the fbi and law enforcement to provide details. i think everybody is aware at this point that there is a person of interest, who is the focus of the investigation, and the fbi can give you further details in terms of how that is proceeding. i told governors cuomo and christie and mayor de blasio that they and their teams will continue to have all federal support as they move ahead with their investigations and tracking down every lead and working to keep the people of this city and of this region safe. law enforcement is asking for the help of the community, and so to everybody in this region, i want to repeat what we've said before. if you see something suspicious, then you need to say something. contact local law enforcement.

in the meantime, i would ask that the press try to refrain from getting out ahead of the investigation. i am extraordinarily happy with the cooperation that's been taking place between the fbi and state and local law enforcement officials. they are moving smartly on this investigation. it does not help if false reports or incomplete information is out there, so try to as much as possible stick to what our investigators say, because they actually know what they are talking about. meanwhile, i know that the united nations meetings here every year already create an additional work load for new york, but given the u.n. meetings, we also have particularly high level of federal resources here to help as needed. we're going to make sure that everybody is working together seamlessly as one team to get to

the bottom of what happened, to find those responsible and to make sure that justice is done. meanwhile, wihile all this is going on in new york and new jersey, we're also focused on the stabbing attack at the shopping mall in minnesota. at this point we see no connection between that incident and what happened here in new york and new jersey. our attention there is on the people who were injured, and again, we are very grateful that no one lost their life. thanks to the quick action of a brave offduty police officer, the suspect was killed, and we avoided more people being hurt. i had a chance also to speak with governor dayton this morning. i assured him that we will provide all the distance that he needs in the investigation. the fbi is investigating the minnesota incident as a potential act of terrorism. we will direct the full resources of the federal government to make sure that the investigation goes forward aggressively.

and finally, i want to take this opportunity to reassure the people in this city, in this region, and americans across our country that our counterterrorism and law enforcement professionals at every level, federal, state, and local, are working together around the clock to prevent attacks and to keep us safe. they are the best of the best. over the years they have thwarted many plots and saved many lives, and we are incredibly grateful for their service today and every single day. we will continue to lead the global coalition on the fight to destroy isil, which is instigating a lot of people over the internet to carry out attacks. we are going to continue to go after them. we're going to take out their leaders. we're going to take out their infrastructure. they are continuing to lose ground in iraq and in syria, and later today i'll be meeting with

prime minister abate of iraq of the need to sustain that momentum. as we take away more of their territory, it exposes isil as the failed cause that it is, and it helps to undermine their ideology, which over time will make it harder for them to recruit and inspire people to violence. and we're going to continue to enlist tech companies and community and religious leaders to push back against online extremist content and all messages of hate. you know, at moments like this, i think it's important to remember what terrorists and violent extremists are trying to do. they are trying to hurt innocent people, but they also want to inspire fear in all of us and disrupt the way we live, to undermine our values. and so even as we have to be vigilant and aggressive both in preventing senseless acts of violence, but also making sure that we find those who carry out

such acts and bring them to justice, we all have a role to play as citizens in making sure that we don't succumb to that fear, and there's no better example of that than the people of new york and new jersey. when i was speaking to governor cuomo and governor christie and mayor de blasio, the one point they all made is, you know, folks around here, you know, they don't get scared. they are tough, they are resilient, they go about their business every single day. and that kind of toughness and resoluteness and recognition that neither individuals nor organizations like isil can ultimately undermine our way of life, that's the kind of strength that makes me so proud to be an american. that's the kind of strength that

is going to be absolutely critical, not just in the days to come, but in the years to come. by showing those who want to do us harm that they will never beat us, by showing the entire world that as americans we will not and never will give into fear, that's going to be the most important ingredient in us defeating those who would carry out terrorist acts against us. thank you very much, everybody. and as i said, you will be receiving, i'm sure, ongoing briefings from both the fbi and local law enforcement in terms of the details of the investigation. >> that is the president. if you're just joining us this morning, ahmad rahami has been captured after a shooting incident involving police in linden, new jersey. john harwood, what's important to know at this moment? >> well, i'm surprised, carl, that the president did not talk

about the arrest of ahmad rahami, but the president's trying to be cautious and, you know, advise those of us in the media to not get out ahead of information that's confirmed and verifiable. he talked about the need for everybody to be vigilant in their surroundings and pay attention to things that you think law enforcement ought to know, and while the united states is going to continue prosecuting the strategy that he mentioned, which has cost isis ground in iraq and syria and elsewhere, and possible that there is a relationship between the diminished prospects for isis territorially in the region and their eagerness to demonstrate their sustained viability by triggering more lone wolf attacks perhaps like the one we saw here. that connection has not been

made. we don't know that, but certainly, the concern about the -- within the united states and europe, is that self motivated sympathizers to isis are going to react to try to show their potency even as they lose ground in the region. >> and the president said he is going to meet with the prime minister of iraq to continue the u.s.'s momentum there as we fight isil on the ground. john, for now, our thanks to you for wrapping this all up for us. let's get back to sue herrera at headquarters to el us the latest in the investigation. sue? >> thank you very much, kayla, and here's what nbc news has learned. they've cited two sources, one in the intelligence department and one in law enforcement as saying that the bombing suspect ai had rahami has been shot, he's been taken into custody, but he was shot. as you know, there was a shootout with police. he's been taken to a hospital. one police officer was also shot.

apparently those injuries are not life threatening to the police officer. basically, what happened was, a shootout occurred in linden, new jersey, which is about four miles or so from elizabeth, new jersey. as you know, the store that rahami's family owns is considered now a crime scene, it has been surrounded by police since the end of the weekend. rahami is wanted in connection with bombings in new jersey and bombings in new york city, all of which occurred over the weekend. pete williams citing law enforcement officials as saying the bomb squad was sent for at the site in linden where rahami apparently was holed up. a shootout ensued, and apparently he was also shooting, according to pete, at cars that were passing by. so they locked down that particular situation and that spot. he was wounded in the shootout with police. he has been taken into custody, and he is en route or is in a

hospital at this point. that's what we know, carl, up to now. >> sue herrera back at hq, i imagine we'll talk to you in a few moments. joining us on the phone, chris sweker, good to talk to you. >> good morning, how are you? >> i'm well. a lot of questions to be answered, but are you surprised or impressed, what's your reaction to the swiftness of the time between these initial incidents happened and this man being taken into custody? >> well, not totally surprised about the swiftness of his capture. it sounded like the fbi joint terrorism task force and the other police agencies all worked together pretty closely on this, got some quick information, perhaps developed a family source or friend source or maybe got on his cell phone traffic and located him pretty quickly. so not totally surprising. what's surprising is the

geographical area where this happened here. >> any conclusions, chris, or hypotheses that you have formed based on just the number of devices and the geographic area of this situation to believe that there is potentially more than one person involved? >> yes. the pressure cooker bombs up in chelsea come right out of the inspire playbook, that's what they used up in the marathon bombings. these are antipersonnel bombs, you can learn how to make them on the al qaeda, that magazine that's still out there in the dark web. what strikes me is the difference between those bombs and the pipe bombs in new jersey. very different types of bombs. it suggests to me there may be more than one person here. he could have covered that ground, but my suspicion is, and i think there are many people with me on this, this is going to be a small cell. >> is that what you meant when

you said you were paying attention to the geographic dispersion here? >> yes. a lot of locations. that's a lot of movement for one person. the difference in the types of bombs, and i think there's probably a lot of information that the jttf is withholding right now, as they should, as they try to shake the tree or kick the ant hill, as you will. >> chris, the president mentioned that there are heightened federal resources in new york city and in the tri-state area right now because of the u.n. general assembly taking place this week. what does that mean for local law enforcement? in what situations would federal resources be tapped into where local resources fall short? >> well, they'll always work together very closely on these terrorism matters, whether it's international or domestic terrorism. what was happening in new york is a special event. there was a surge in law enforcement, so that probably

contributed to the swiftness of the response here, but i don't necessarily know this responds to your question, i don't think the bombing was in response to that event up there. the targets are totally different. >> well, certainly new york and new jersey still on edge and still highly secured. chris, we appreciate your time this morning helping us put this into context. >> thank you. >> as we continue to follow the latest developments in this investigation, we keep one eye on the markets, the dow up 107 points and "squawk alley" will be right back. where, in all of this, is the stuff that matters? the stakes are so high, your finances, your future. how do you solve this? you don't. you partner with a firm that advises governments and the fortune 500, and, can deliver insight person to person, on what matters to you. morgan stanley.

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we're staying with the bombing investigation in new york and new jersey. back to sue herrera in hq. >> we want to share a photo from one of our colleagues at nbc news. you can see the gentleman lying on the ground right next to that green volkswagon bug, that reportedly is rahami. he is wanted in connection, as you all know, with the bombings in new york and new jersey. that photo just in to us at this point. you can see him lying on the ground. he has been taken into custody. he was wounded at the shootout with police. they've taken him to a hospital. basically, that was just about an hour or so ago. the new jersey mayor of elizabeth has also confirmed the fact that he has been taken into custody, so now we have an intelligence confirmation, law

enforcement confirmation, and government confirmation that rahami, who was a suspect in these bombings, you're looking at him in the picture, the man lying on the ground with his hands cuffed behind his back, has been taken into custody. one officer was shot in that shootout. we're trying to zoom in on that for you so that you can see his face a little bit more clearly. one officer has nonlife threatening injuries. rahami, reportedly, was wounded. we don't have confirmation on exactly where he was wounded, and we do not see blood in this picture, but he was taken into custody just a short while ago. he reportedly is at a hospital, but that's the latest shot that we have. carl, kayla, back to you. >> all right, sue herrera, thanks so much. all right, as we continue to follow this, clint vanzandt joins us on the phone. clint, as a former fbi officer, what can you tell us about how you are viewing this situation and the developments that have been made? >> well, this is the way an

investigation like this is supposed to work. number one, of course, the fbi and the local authorities would like to stop somebody like this before they actually act and, in fact, dozens of cases have been stopped, but when somebody does the proverbial slip in between the cracks, authorities move very quickly. this individual, this small cell that he may belong to, they may have some rudimentary bomb making skills they acquired from the internet, but as far as their trade craft and how they set them, fortunately, wasn't that thorough, so now i think the responsibility of the authorities is to take this individual they have, fortunately alive so he can be questioned, and find out is this a true lone wolf or are there other members who either helped him or at least knew what he was doing. that's what the dragnet has to pull in now. >> clint, we just talked to chris swecker, also a former fbi assistant director, who

suggested the variance in the type of weapon, the geographic dispersion, suggested maybe it is more a small cell than a lone wolf, do you agree? >> just the trade craft in building these devices, you know, between pipe bombs and the pressure cooker bomb, there's a big difference in making these, and that the idea that one individual has become this master bomb maker sitting in his basement or up above this chicken restaurant, putting these together all by himself is kind of hard to imagine, so i think longic dictates there's going to be other individuals who at least knew, if not contributed, to this person's activities. >> you know, in situations in recent memory, clint, the suspect has not been captured alive. what is the value of having a suspect like this that can be questioned and that can potentially give law enforcement some answers? >> yeah, i think there's a lot to be learned. number one, from my side of the

house, from the profiling, from the understanding of the motivation of such individuals there's a lot to be learned. we've heard different things. we've heard his family a few years ago had a lawsuit against the city. we heard he may or may not have been thrown out of an apartment. there's a number of things going on, but every time we get a person like this alive, there's a lot to be learned, a lot to find out, because we know there's going to be a next one. we want to be better for the next one than we were for this one, and i think what was interesting, too, is this individual was, obviously, apprehended just a few miles from his home. i heard people speculating he may be out of the country already. this is not a type of person who has the ability to flee the country. he pulled off this act and then he wasn't quite sure what he was going to do. walking down the street with a gun in his happened, so if there are, in fact, other people involved in this, they surely weren't helping him with his

escape. he was on his own, that's when law enforcement closed in, do what they do, really good every day, they get a bad guy off the streets. >> i wonder, clint, for those -- hopefully there are none, but assuming there are others who plan to do something similar in the next 50 days or maybe beyond, does the swiftness of this particular custody act as a deterrent for those who want to do something similar? >> it's going to depend on the motivation. i don't know it's necessarily going to be a deterrent, but it's going to give them cause to consider all the things that may have led to this individual's identification. we've heard fingerprints and phone records and things like this, all of these electronic and other items that could lead to someone. i think anyone who's considering this has to think and has to think again how they would plan it, but realize every time they make a plan, law enforcement is very good at flooding those

plans. hopefully they'll do it the next time, too. >> clint, we appreciate you coming to the phone this morning and walking us through that, clint vanzandt, former fbi profiler joining us today. dow is up 105 points. don't go away. [chains dragging] [eerie music playing] [crickets chirping]

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trying to watch the markets, also details on the bombings in new york and new jersey over the weekend. ahmad rahami has been taken into custody >> well, obviously, they got to try to get to the -- you know, who he is, what he did, why he did it. certainly they're going to focus in on is he the guy that put the bombs in new york city and new jersey? you know, that type of stuff.

i knew they were going to solve this fairly quickly. this was just speculation this is good night. assuming it is, you know, they're going to be diving into everything to do with him. where he lived, who was the -- what is on social -- the networks, blah, blah, blah, blah. where has he been the last 48 hours, who does he hang out with, all these types of things. >> why were you so confident this would happen quickly, his being brought into custody? >> well, in new york city you can walk around there you are on video somewhere. there were unexploded devices. that's like a gold mine to the fbi laboratory. the fbi laboratory has investigations of bombings around the world for the last decade so they know every little thing about how a bomb is put

together. whether it's a lone wolf type person or the signature of a bomb maker. they know where all these explosives come from, where they are sold, what the wires are, blah, blah, blah, blah. i could go on and on and on. with unexploded devices, they're going to get dna found. >> this is kayla. one of the key questions we've been trying to figure out this morning is whether this suspect potentially was acting alone or whether this is part of a small terror cell. on one hand, we had a former fbi official saying the diversity of the devices would lead you to believe there were more than one prn. he wasn't getting any help with his get-away plan. what would you say? >> i think it's much too early to speculate on all of that stuff, quite frankly. the early speculation is ushlgly wrong. you can tell a lot from devices and the sophistication of them,

but, you know, i think the new normal, unfortunately, is going to be they're not going to be terribly sophisticated. they're going to be drop and run type devices. i hope i'm wrong, but the reality is we don't have a clue who comes and goes into the united states. the fbi, i have been talking about this for a long, long time. they don't have the resources to deal with this problem we're facing today. the congress and the white house refuses to do anything about that. the border is wide open. you can drive mack trucks over it all day. >> i think we have touched on that in the past. unfortunately, surrounding events like this. james, the president just said he does not believe there's a connection between what happened here in the northeast and what happened in if st. cloud. i wonder whether you believe there's any urgency for those that want to do harm? >> yeah. i mean, it very well could.

a lot of these guys are being influenced by what they see on the internet. from that standpoint, there might be uniformity to this. yeah, it doesn't look like that mad man out there in the mall that guy could be influenced by the same thing of this guy. >> former fbi assistant director. appreciate your time so much. thanks again. >> my pleasure. good luck and have a good day. bye-bye. >> thank you. >> let's get to morgan brennan in manhattan for more on the latest developments. morgan. >> hey, carl. that's right. nbc confirming the suspect of the bombings in new york and new jersey rahami. he is in custody. there's a picture we just showed

you circulating of him in cuffs sitting in front of a volkswagen beetle. also according to sources rahami was shot and is en route to the hospital. it's been just four hours since the fbi released a photo of this suspect. he has been wanted in connection to these bombings over the last three days in new york and new jersey. i'll tell you here on 23rd street which is the site of the bomb explosion on saturday night, you can see behind me the fbi is still very much on the scene. this is still very much an active site. just a little while ago they removed the dwreen dumpster that was believed to be the site of this blast on saturday. guys, back over to you to, with morgan brennan. we'll be right back with more squawk alley just after this. ♪ ♪

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has been at the officer who was shot, was protected by a bulletproof vest. the questioning will begin as we talk to a couple of former fbi officials about what he did specifically and depending on his answers. >> reuters is reporting that the suspect traveled to afghanistan several years ago, and that's according to a family acquaintance. of course, a lot of questions to be answered about exactly what motivated him, how he chose those sites, and whether he was acting alone in this situation. >> his argument aappears to suggest that because there were and are so many cameras, it's difficult to pull off something at large scale. that's why 15 years ago incidents involved jetliners, and today they involve pressure cookers that don't always work the way they're supposed to. >> yeah. we all got that alert this morning.

there was a picture of the suspect, and everyone was on alert. >> we do expect the nypd to hold a press conference in about 30 minutes. we've already heard from secretary clinton and the president. got a response from trump's campaign. we'll watch that. dow is up 104. let's get over to headquarters. scott wapner and "the half." >> i'm scott wapner. welcome to "the half." the suspect accused of the bombings in new york and he is it new jersey over the weekend has been captured. our sue herrera following the very latest developments this hour and joins us now. sue. >> thank you very much, scott. here's what we know. rahami has been taken into custody. nbc news confirming that with several sources. what happened, according to w nbc's jonathan deenst is that the suspect, rahami was in his car, and someone spotted him in lyndon, which is about four miles from his family'sin