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the valuations moderated a little bit. so a lot of people said this was their year. i don't think it dhapgs overyou a story. we're still well below the highs. >> the story is clear. thank you so much. see you tomorrow. that does it for us on "closing bell." "fast" moen begins right now. >> this is "fast money." we start with breaking news. stocks getting slammed. posting the real day since president trump was elected. after opening higher, the dow dropped more than 200 points. the s&p 500 down more than 2%. this as trump made his way to capitol hill to push the gop health care plan with house republicans. an effort that is currently facing some serious hurdles. for more on what's at stake, let's go to you. what's the latest? >> reporter: the president is testing his deal making mettle
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this week. he is meeting at the white house with moderate republicans after addressing the entire republican conference here on capitol hill for the very first time since inauguration. er to sell on behalf of the house leadership this american health care act set to go to vote on thursday. ramping up pressure on individual lawmakers who oppose it like congressman mark meadows from the house freedom caucus and who said many still oppose the boil ideological grounds. the president's pressure notwithstanding. >> the president and i know each other well and i have nothing but the utmost respect for his willingness and ability to close the deal. this is what he's done all of his life and who am i to challenge those tactics? >> there does appear to be enough opposition from within that house freedom caulk to us block the bill, opponents still seem to be making room for an 11th hour deal to happen.
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i ran into mark sanford. ed emhe is not there yet. and congressman brooks when asked if he thought the deal was closed on "closing bell" said this. >> no, i don't. the president and house leadership are very hard to twist some arms and try to get people to change positions. >> of course, there's not much time between now ask thursday but the question has been raised whether the market drop today would light a fire under house republicans to support this. whether that would add a sense of urgency. the only difference, the key difference between those sxraenlts this one is those we hard deadline that's were etched into the government calendar. this is self-imposed by republicans. if people can't get on board this, there is nothing set on spoken to says this has to happen thursday. >> excellent point. we'll keep it up from there.
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they delay the vote. the vote fails or passes. >> i do think this is the art of the deal. i think we're watching this. i think ultimately, it passes. i think the big thing for the market is to understand, if they have to compromise a whole lot. what does that mean for tax policy? not that it won't get done but what does it look like? is it 35%? does it only come down to 30 or 28? >> is everything that got him elected, is it weaker? do they take sting out of it? having said all that. when you look at the way this market sets up, is it all this or options? we had quad on friday. let's put options on the table. let's take a stepback, see how thursday comes out. if you don't have tax policy changing, you have to take off financials. sow because deregulation and tax
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policy changing prorks growth policies. that's why they were the biggest laggard on today. >> we're seeing 70% probability. gets through on thursday. that's his call. he's been spot on a lot of this. my view is derisking why. would you step in front of a freight train? are you saying has the benign spraenlt this failure of the house -- >> absolutely not. we've talked about it the x amount of weeks. that this could happen. do you sell stocks in the face of it? >> i think you can sell stocks in the face of this. i don't think that has the benign event. i think this could have ripple effects. people have been waiting to sell this market. >> i do believe it has been about rotation. there's no one sitting there antsy to buy this market.
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>> the action today does not indicator. >> the action today. >> we sent new lows in. >> you look at the biotech space in particular. down 5%. every generalist, specialist, i should say, in that sector that we spoke to, wasn't about the trump tweet or the discussion last night about opening up the discussion in health care pricing at all. >> first, i've been bullish. today flies in the face of what i thought would happen. i thought financials would continue to rally. we discussed last night, the price action at are sacgoldman sac sachs. i am not saying this is sell everything but it is something to continue to watch. my line in the sand is twofold. 130 has been support. i think it will continue to be support. it is 134 now and the transports which tim will mention
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correctly, by the way, 160 is a huge level. we're right there. if we give up the ghost on those two, i think we have an entirely different conversation. financials basically, there is a big airer pocket still below financials to get you to the 200 which takes a lot of this he rally off the table. when i look at what happened, i thought closing bell interview was fantastic. he basically said, politically correct is to not vote for bad legislation. this is a guy who made it very clear. he is not letting down his constituents or his region and he is ready to dig in. >> they voted for bad policy all during the last couple years. now it's only about their constituents. i think ultimately they get rolled. they want to make believe they're putting up a fight. i think the deal that gets done, a soft deal.
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if it is a soft deal for the market. >> why aren't you stepping in? >> if it is a soft deal and it likes obamacare, there will be a lot of angry people. >> parts of the market are telling you something will get done. the hospital stocks, the ones most exposed to medicaid. they really got slammed today. interesting to see the cross currents. she said a lot of interesting things. the thing that stuck with me is the market selling off could work in president trump's favor. he could go to his, to these guys and gaza and say look what you're doing to the stock market. which has been going straight up to my policies. you're responsible for making the market sell off. it could happen. i wouldn't put it past them. steve knows about this. better than i do.
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it is dead in the senate which may be gives as you reprieve for a week or so. then it is that other obstacle we need to get over. >> who thinks it passes? >> on thursday, yes. >> gets to the house. >> yes. >> it is it gets through house. >> i believe it will be a soft deal but i believe it gets through. >> if the whole thing today was that it is not going to get through but it gets through the house, why wouldn't this be a reason to buy? >> it doesn't mean it gets through the next phase. why they had to go through the obamacare first. >> you're at a place here where i think there's a lot of questions about the legitimacy. the irony is in materials of markets, the only two markets. russia was one of the only go markets that was up and the mexico peso.
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>> i think between now ask april, these probability there's move up or down and then the market may actually see that as a risk. so i think it could pull back. we would see it as a buying opportunity how much further can stocks fall? let's bring you in for more. is it the sell-off you're talking about? yes, basically, we were saying last weekend, a few weeks ago, so you mentioned, we had this suppression of volatility for like three or four months. and that finally expired on friday. so for the first time on monday, the market had the chance of moving. then also you do have something, which we call expert momentum. and reversion. a little today of a selling started. what has happened also during the day today.
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so toward end of the day, we had about $20 billion short. it means market makers have to sell into this weakness. >> in other words there's more selling momentum. >> correct. so i think more than half was the rehenging of options and chasing on the down side. so my take is basically there was some political developments today. i don't think they're critical for the move today that happened. you have some positive developmentes in europe. so it was a mixed bag. >> so does that end today? >> no. volatility is now increased. and the market is now going to be moving a bit more in the coming days. high volatility generally means equity investors start taking down exposure. so i think market will be vulnerable. more volatile.
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we have very high. and then -- >> what do you do with the dollar here? shouldn't that be a buffer? weaker dollar should be taking some of that out of the way? >> it does have a buffer. it was always the dollar will be stronger. and what the reflation trade is. generally, is it support. support is that we do things that we will get eventually. you just need tax reform this year. so we don't, it doesn't have to be a sort of immediately. >> in terms of the impact, have you seen the selling already take place? >> we see some of the data starting to pull down. they started very low a few
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weeks back and now it is weakening. they're still not long but they're pairing down their long exposure. so that's a source of weakness. they're clearly not going to be any equity here. so i think there is something where we can see it. >> so this is pullback you buy. what record looks attractive? >> so i think one needs to keep a margin. we were saying 45%. we think it is more time. when it goes on, there's some good from it behind the market. >> all right. thank you for coming by.
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>> so what marko was explaining or talking about, i will try to unwalk-ify this. as the market goes lower, they have to sell more and more the 34 market goes. it is negative gamut. typically not a one day event and i'm not saying that's what happened but i think that's what you're talking about now. that could potentially take volatility index significantly higher than it is now. >> absolutely. there is a chasing of the market. i'm not trying to forecast but this volatility will get back into the market. the vix goes up and some investors will read that as a negative risk type of signal.
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>> that was options actions worthy. >> thank you. >> so if you look at the levels, the 50 day moving average is 23. 25. so if it comes into that level and then you have the 100 day, 22-65. those are important levels. we haven't seen a real one. thursday is the lynchpin. even if it is a soft deal, you can see all the gamma and boat on. that he is talking about. there's no reason to buy the market above 2,500. so you're looking at trading sideways back and forth. it is like pin ball game. so let's call it 23 to 25. >> what do we do in the meantime? >> remember, the euro is about 60% of the dollar index. the french election twes the
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dutch result that there's probably too much politics priced into the politics. i even bought some turkey today. you look around the world and where there's volatility. if anything, the volatility we're suffering is probably positive for some of these countries. so this was a day to buy stuff that i think it is better as we get farther into the year. >> two stocks. coach. i bought coach. i added to a position. and jetblue. i think that stock about ready to turn. it has been trading sideways for quite some time. made probably a year and a half high today. i think this stock on the verge of breaking up but for the price action. i think it would be 116, 117. so it still looks interesting to me. >> coming up, shares of nike lower. moments ago, we'll bring you the very latest.
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welcome back to "fast" moen. apple unveiling new products. josh is in san francisco with all the details. >> this morning apple did introduce new special edition 7 and 7 plus phones. starting at $749 which are available starting march 24th. remember, when consumers buy these red products, apple makes a droiks a charity which uses the money to finance hiv and aids programs in africa. apple has done this in the past with ipods, cases and wrist bands but never before for an iphone. and they are replacing the ipad. it comes with a more powerful a-9 chip. the price has been cut with the
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basic model starting at $329. apple did also introduce clips, a new app for creating video to share through facebook. of course, they have moved hard into apple which has surged 26% in the past six months. the price target was just raised from $140 to $160. >> our believe is the s&p the stock very expensive. it is dramatically below the market and below peers. more over we do think that the iphone 8 cycle will be significant and we think there's upward revisions likely. >> i was told apple could sell 110 million iphones in the back of the year. that would be a jump of 27% year over year. others are skeptical. they point to the longer
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replacement cycles. spam apple is on track for its best quarter. >> as josh mentioned, bernstein was out raising the price yesterday. they said essentially that you have to compare apple to its s&p valuation. not necessarily to its historic valuation. >> so apples to apples. >> i think the news is important to recognize. i appreciate that they're going to give money to charity. the iphones, the ipads in particular, maybe the units, the sales increase but you won't see average selling price increase. the margins won't be impacted. this is not what's driving the story. it is the launch of the new phone ask that will drive the stock much higher of. >> i think we are two quarters
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away from where you need thrown stock. where we sat new highs and then closing levels of yesterday. there to me actually may be a stock that has seen its best days for a little while. >> there is nothing wrong the company. my view is that this is a great reasonably init's expensive company with great free cash flow that benefits from the environment. >> you cut this loose. >> so tim brings up obviously a great point so there will be people don't trade it. just own it. if that's -- that's great. and pete has been on the 160 band wagon. i get it. if you're trying to figure out how the change it. you look at what tim just said and say a not interesting day. what does it mean? i think it is imperative to remain bullish for foom close
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above that preef just all time high. close below 134 this week and then i think you have to re-evaluate how you're trading the stock. >> all right. stead. fedex and nike after earnings calls are underway. you're watching "fast money," cnbc, first in business worldwide. >> auto stocks are crashing and could spell an portrayed in the market. plus, guy adami cannot be stopped. taking five games in the "fast money" tournament. he faces his biggest challenge yet. ho! ( ♪ ) it's off to work we go! woman: on the gulf coast, new exxonmobil projects are expected to create over 45,000 jobs. and each job created by the energy industry supports two others in the community. altogether, the industry supports over 9 million jobs nationwide.
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it was a brutal day on wall street that the market saw the worst day since the election. the dow dropped 237 points. here's what's coming up in the second half of the show. fedex taking a sudden move higher in the last few minutes. we'll tell you what was behind that leg up. coca-cola down 7%. which sister by buy right now, coca-cola or altria? you out there will get to vote on who advances to the next round so stay on twitter. first we start with a curious trend developing in the consumer space. bob has more on that.
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a consumer spending shift is underway. retailers are weak for several reasons. there's a decline at in store shopping and kernels over the impact from that border adjustment tax. that's still very real. we have big names, target, macy's, bed, bath and beyond. all hitting 52-week lows. and they noted the point of maximum pain may not have been cheed yet. but people love to travel. the big names, carn ill, marriott, price line, all 52-week highs. with the exception of royal caribbean essentially at historic highs. cruise trends have been consistently strong for both bookings and pricing. partly on strong consumer
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confidence. norwegian said bookings were back up too for european demand. the inbound u.s. travel business. so they also noted some he weak innocence florida airport entries. particularly in orlando. that has large foreign visitors coming the see places like disney world. so this travel restriction program the president is trying to implement may be having some affect on u.s. travel. but melissa, they're loving the travel stocks right now. >> price line, the royal caribbean. >> royal caribbean. maybe may, june of last year, the stock was trading $60 or so.
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he made some compelling arguments as to why his stock was going higher and guess what? it went up about 50%. the price action today. you look at i. it made a 52-week high. $99, reverse lower. traded where it topped out at the end of 2015. if you've been in this, hopefully gave you will ample opportunity to pull the rip cord. >> i agree with that analysis. and rcl. i'm germophobe. there's always something waiting to get sick on a boat. >> do you walk around new york city, take a subway and you're going to complain about a boat? come on. >> having said that, airs. they've been so beaten up and avoided. maybe buy a basket of then. >> and they're much less germy. >> airlines should not be
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invested in. i guess a jetblue -- >> not long. because of the way they're structured right now. from the standpoint of, when oil comes in. what happens? >> they don't trade on oil. they trade on increased capacity. correct. the lower oil goes, capacity goes higher. that's the way it works. they make a bet. they feel more confident. they want to express it through capacity. >> even if they're trading vehicles, they're worth a shot the buy them right now. >> the whole point is they are investments. it is not about oil prices. it is absolutely about how they're running a business and they're squeezing more efficiency. >> they run their businesses based on the price of oil. >> cruise lines the me and
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loelts at a the point, they're the few places in the consumer spaces have earnings momentum. i think they've been pushed to where they are on the basis of what's going on in core retail. >> get to our buzz kill. the auto, ford 4%. fiat dropping a whopping 5%. this is mounting concerns over prices. specifically allied financial had a present participation mention ad number of metrics. we knew about the used car prices and how they're declining. but auto lease dwrees about 5.5%. in the second quarter of 2016, they were two percentage points higher. a dramatic change in the past few quarters. >> i think if we want to think about the auto sector, do they
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have credit issues on their hands like we've seen in the past? i think not. do we have a cycle for auto satisfies? very possible document we have valuation that's make a lot of sense? i've been trading gm pretty actively over the last few months. that's a trade by the way. but for a company reaffirmed a couple times. i'm okay with what i have for 2017 and a 5% dividend yield he. >> it is a trade in terms of offer autos. do you think it is an investment? >> a lot of the dealerships were pushed to take on inventory they couldn't sell. >> rights are moving higher. you said it. you have used car prices definitely hitting a wall at this point. so there is a whole barrage of head winds that are coming in the auto sector. you can't buy autos.
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>> you short autos? >> avoid them. >> had what stock did he tell you about? >> he talked about a lot of stocks. >> he talked about ford. stocks down 5%. we talked about the levels that it had last year. and how it was imperative that it do it again. 1170. do you think it will fess 1110 low that we saw twice last year? or does it bounce? >> i said ford, you're in no man's land. >> stick go with autos, some actions in the autos to break it down. hey, mike. >> hey, cocoa beware of general motors instead of ford actually. and we saw a lot of buying of the weekly, it was early in the day. well before the sell-off really basically accelerated to the end
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of the day. those were best the stocks would be below 34.25. we saw a lot in the january 2018. 32 and 30 strike puts. that is suggesting that it could be significantly volatile in general motors from now until the end of the year. and maybe even test $30. >> oh-oh! >> if you look back on the chart, that makes a lot of sense. it is still a stock that i think we can own. >> cocoa, thank you. mike koe. >> do you know who that is? >> cocoa beware for you. ww worldwide wrestling focus throughout was a wrestler back in the day. i encourage you. >> are you serious? >> of course i'm serious.
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>> what was his m.o.? >> i think he had a parrot. i'm not sure. >> how did your wrestling -- >> for more options action, check out friday 5:30. rumor has it guy adami with his gamma will be on. quite the party there. stocks are volatile as the stocks are underway. listening in on fedex, they will bring us the headlines moving these stocks. and later, our "fast money" madness continues. david is getting one more chance to throw down guy adami. coke versus altria. you won't want to miss this heated debate. ♪ guyhey ninileppening here? this imy new alert stem for whenever anything happs in the market. kis a natural. but thinkorswim already lets you create custom alerts
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let's look at the last time. he claimed he was sabotaged. in fact, he took to twitter and reiterated those inflammatory
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claims. don't worry, steve. we're giving you one more chance to beat guy. as for the stocks,al tria versus coca-cola. guy, you are the five time champion. you get to start. why is altria the better buy? >> i appreciate. that david, it is great to have you up here again. i wish david the best. i do. a worthy adversary. let's look at altria. a great chart. they have a tremendous balance sheet. what else do they have? a great investment. tim brought this up. budweiser, analyheuser-busch is paying huge dividends. what else? consolidation in the space. is it ridiculous to think that maybe phillip morris comes back in and does a partnership or takes over or buys out altria? i think there's a good chance. valuation, balance sheet,
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consolidation in the space, coca-co coca-cola, a great stock but look at the variations in price it's had oh the last five years. it is on the down swing of a series of down swings. back to you. >> 45 seconds. make the case for coke. >> it's simple. get the chart. we've got coke. the chart looks terrible. i get it. guy is 100% right. this is an undercovered, way underowned stock. it is a name people have disregarded over the past year or so. they're turning around. they're going through a refranchising process. they're going through a bottling business. i want to own this. there is a new ceo coming in. he is going to turn it around. 3.5 dividend yield. a turn around story that's intact. they'll repatriate. probe close to $5 billion.
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this is a name you must own from the standpoint that it is not a stock we're pushing. it is just a sugar high. >> i tell you what folks at home. that's a great job by david. >> questions here from the zmeks. >> i'm long altria. i'm a little concerned about 21 times 2018. i can make the argument that at this point it is getting close to sell. >> relative to its peers, it is cheap. relative to the market, it is expensive. you have to ask yourself, is the space in play? do you continue to pay the lofty valuations? does it have room on the upside to may catch-up. that would be my argument back. >> a quick one for you. >> i own altria group. not only has it appreciate in the stock price but i get the same yield.
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>> this isn't a-year-old play necessarily. it is absolutely a turn around story which they're going through. logon right now. it is posted. vote in our poll. we'll reveal it later on. the early indication? he's losing. >> look at that. >> i'm not tweeting anything. >> let the desk vote. still ahead, nike and fedex. we'll bring you the headlines moving the stocks. you're watching "fast money." if youave medicare
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. nike falling in the afterhour session. let's get to the very latest from that call. >> we're just getting some new
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numbers out of nike conference call on future orders. so we just got then and they are disappointing. global futures orders for nike set to be down 1%. investors, analysts are looking for it to be positive. they say it doesn't matter that much because their direct on consumer business where they have their own retail stores and their websites is a much bigger part. still the stock is moving on these numbers. it is the fourth quarter, it says it expects mid single did i know it revenue growth. the expectation was around 7%. so that was in line. nothing too exciting when it comes to this nike conference call. at least when it comes to the numbers. mark parker did open the call saying he was bullish on nike's lead position in the market.
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looks at it with a sports metaphor. listen. we've committed to doubling our impact in each of them. we call it our triple double. so what do i mean is this we're doubling our cadence and scale through performance and sports. throughout our supply chain, we're doubling our speed from product insatellite delivery to the consumer. is in the marketplace we're doubling our direct connections with consumers through digital, membership and personalization. >> nike saying in the fourth quarter, it expects margins to contract. it is pointing to a retail environment and a very tough macro environment. that strong dollar still chipping away at overall sales growth for a company that gets
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the majority of the business overseas. >> thank you. down about 4%. this is what they had last time communicating to the street that they don't see futures orders as a problem. >> north american competition is heating up. the dollar is down on the year. down year over year. if you think about the core markets, it is starting to weaken up a lot. what would a triple done be? >> a cager? >> not a kegger. no. a cager. what is a triple double. >> tell me. >> you get double digits in rebounds, assists, points. poeb blocks if you're really tall as you are. >> nike has been overbought though. let's make it simple. it has been overbought. up 14%.
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underarmor is down 30%. i said it last night. nike is very close to being overbought. i would rather pick underarmour on this. >> saying nike was a stock that you could own still. ahead of the earnings. >> what we said is it looks hauntingly like ford did. i look at the inventory year over year. that's why margins will contract and that's why the stock has the potential to go lower. >> either one. >> pegged in on it. you cannot buy it. it is lump in the with apparel. stay away from nike. continue to own adidas here. >> it is actually moving higher. >> that's right.
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so we've seen a reversal. fred smith getting into guidance. he reaffirm 2017 earnings guidance based on an excellent fourth quarter. and despite the 30% year on year fuel costs last quarter that contributed to fedex's big profit miss. so smith saying the company will experience less volatility from those big price swings in fuel because they're changing the fuel charge that has taken effect and giving some pretty upbeat commentary. >> we believe stloing that our strategic investments to expand our global scope and our portfolio of services will significantly increase long term profits. >> so targeting, fedex is targeting income improvement. 1.2 to wou1.5 billion. including express.
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and noting that fedex ground segment margin will be more than 15% in the current quarter. that's key. because investors analysts have been looking at that in light of all the major investments they've been making. so all of that is leading to this stock moving the after hours. this is 5% turn. >> guys trade ups and fedexful ups has been the underperformer. when you see the moment columbia, it sees like fedex will continue. the tnt, the ground margins are a problem. i think they trade on their own. if you're worried about the trump trade, some of the stuff they're moving around which
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includes coal and ore and everything that got destroyed today. we knew this would be a chiling quarter. and i think the guidance they're getting is a positive sign. >> does this make ups look that much worse? >> yes. and valuation wise. >> i thought you were asking for footage. >> i don't know if they have it cued up. back at hq. they don't but i'll say this. fedex is cheaper. there's one thing that gives me concern. their operating margins continue to deteriorate. mr. smith spoke about it which is why i think the stock reversed. margins concern me. >> all right. up next we will reveal the winner of our "fast money" madness. tal? what'sticathinking like? a basketballts $14
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