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>> i'm with carter braxton. wait. >> shares of xilinx. >> get you done, mel. >> i'm mellissa lee. thanks, for watching. "mad money" with jim cramer starts right now. my mission is simple, to make you money. i'm here to level the playing field for all investors. there's always a bull market somewhere. and i promise to help you find it. "mad money" starts now. hey, i'm cramer, welcome to "mad money." welcome to cramerica. welcome to our invest in america, defining the future series from cnbc one market in san francisco. other people want to make friends, i'm just trying to make you some money, my job is not
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just to entertain, but to coach and teach you. email me or tweet me @jimcramer. this trump trade, the dow advancing 36 points, s&p climbing.02%, and i think the president is starting to confuse the heck out of everyone in the business world. this show is about investing not politics. tru you should not invest based on his musings. stocks are going up because of self help and because of mergers. and there are those that are going down because of the uncertainty created by the president's tweets and the casual comments about the rest of the world. i'm not sure that the president understandings that his words carry a lot more weight than they did when he was a private
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citizen. for example, when you say out loud that maybe the big banks should be broken up. when you say that the government should be shut down in september, you're sending a message, i'm a provocateur and chief who doesn't know my own power. wall street has gone from believing that trump's going to save american business to wondering if american business can handle the erratic nature of this president's announcements. can the country plan on a one-time phoned in tax plan that seems to have few friends in congress? can the modern day ceo -- less onerous for business. let's be honest, it sure isn't what most investors expected when trump came in guns braising
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vowing to help american business and american companies, the data's pretty clear, domestically we're pretty sfag nant. the incentives are too high, the supply too great, the used car prices too low to believe that the auto industry can give us some oomph. without any business friendly legislation coming, that ain't happening. gross domestic product, a fancy name for how much business is getting done in this country, it slacked off to a level where it's getting increasingly hard for the fed to justify raising interest rates twice this period and that's something i have told you time and again the banks need badly. it sure doesn't help by the way if you now need to worry about whether your bank could be broken up. i don't care about the idle talk that's backed up by people willing to testify that the
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banks are too big as a result of the recession when banks were allowed to merge in a consolidation of power to keep them from going under. but the market continues to go higher. why? that's not a stupid question. in order to get your stock up in this environment, a ceo has to do one of four things, one, break up your company into frat entities to bring out value, number two, buy companies that augment your core business in order to grow, three, from a sizable business in europe and asia to offset american weakness, or four, have a better mouse trap that the customer loves. every stock that roared today had one of those boosters going. barry dillard, of iac/interactive has had many moving parts over the year. yet dillard doesn't get enough
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credit more making these moves. ugh iac bought angie's list, an overlooked division that prescreens and recommends profession professionals. maybe only dillard can spend 570 million drbuying angie' list as home advisor will now be it's own stand alone company. bravo. how about two, buy some additional companies to augment your core business. that what's martin marietta materials has done. these bills have transformed it from a tiny regional player to a company with businesses in every fast growing state. that's why marietta acted like a fast growing tech stock. the numbers here suggest that this company isn't waiting for
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the president's infrastructure plan to pass or fail, because of that genius speaker paul ryan, and there's no way this congress will every pass a gigantic infrastructure bill. martin marietta knows that and that's just fine. third very companies with exposure to the rest of the world that's proving to be their savi savior. cmi delivered such a fantastic number, that i was thinking how can i be so wrong about the american truck market? whoops, turns out i got it right. north american engine shipments declined by .05%, but international ships increased by 7%. international ventures came in at $1.1 billion because of growth in china.
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industrial demand for medium and heavy duty trucks in china decreased by a staggering 73%, aided by aggressive infrastructure spending and truck replacements even if you didn't see nit that number, somingsome ing oog gat number. finally there's number four, the better mouse trap, apple reached another all-time high. why? hey, you know what it is? it's called a better mouse trap. it looks like this. the world's largest company reported after the close and even before the cyber ink was dry, we heard that while the headline numbers were better than expected, there was disappointment in the numbers sold especially in china. listen to me, here's what i have to say, if you're going to play this hand set game, you're going to fry to count every sing m one of these and try to pin the tail on the number of units sold and
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hold it against apple that it sold 1.2 million phones that some thought, even as inventories were down big, totally explaining the differential, then you shouldn't be in the stock. if you are going to assess this company as if it is one phone away from death's door, then by all means sell it. throw it into the whatever, okay, boom. don't throw my phone, though. don't. that is if you didn't sell it at $93 last year or $103 or $113 or $123 or wherever else guided your thinking into thinking into trading or selling it. thinking, these are called quotes. with a price differential way below the average stock, with a gigantic buy back that you are more than welcome to sell into. and with a potential for repatriation of tens of billions of dollars at low tax rates, if the president and congress can
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see eye to eye on anything. i say be my guest, buy, buy. but after scrutinizing the quarter, i'm sticking with my long held view to own it, don't trade it, particularly with a new iphone coming out in not that long a time. and don't forget, warren buffett, who has a lot of firepower, he agrees with me and he'll boe on cnbc from kw6 to 6:00 to 9:00 monday. getting held in front of congress, as oscar munos is today. i think this was one of those can that is rightic experiences, and it will come again when buffet praises them again. united continue known tall was up more than 5%, i guess you should go in front of congress
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tomorrow. it's got style and new brands, besides just coach and handbags. we all know it was an upside surprise when selena gomez wore a dress that i couldn't afford or couldn't -- not like they're going to give me a ticket. but in an environment where donald trump's trumping himself with inconsistent pronouncements that are throwing off pretty much everyone, it pays to merge, it pays to spend, it pays to sell internationally or it pays to produce a better mouse trap. without one of these, all i request say is good luck, let's take calls, let's go to austin in big mo. austin. >> caller: what's up, jim, what do you think of yelp's business model and where do you these they are in five years? >> i think yelp put up a big
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dinner, he's going to have to fight to keep that company in his own hands, i think someone especially will probably want to buy it. it pays to merge, spend, sell internationally or have a better mouse trap. we have seen day after day of new highs on the nasdaq. now i'm drilling into the tech heavy indeck, how about stock as diverse as ford, macy's, verizon, they may all be driven by one significant number. and home away, it's name sake expedia brand, i'm taking a trip with the ceo of this travel giant that doesn't do a lot of tv. i say stay with cramer. your insurance company
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right now we have got a raging bull market. which is one of the reasons why i agreed to come out here to san francisco. just since the election, tech heavy nasdaq is on fire, it's running from 5,000 six months ago, all the way up to 12,000. tonight we're going off the charts with the help of ed up poncy, he used to be my colleague. let's get a better understanding of this amazing tech rally and whether it can continue. this is the s&p 500 on the top and the nasdaq on the bottom. as you can see, one of these pictures look, a heck of a lot better than the other.
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while the nasdaq is as v diversified as a market gets, the tech laden nasdaq has held firm near the highs. as the s&p was declining, the naz was trading sideways, so when the whole market got a lift late last month, the nasdaq ended up at much higher levels, to make a series of new highs, including one today. meanwhile the s&p still has nn' been able to clear the levels from last february. some are starting to think, maybe it doesn't have it. what makes this more impressive is that some of the tech houses that are popular, are also heavily weighted members of the s&p 500. in other words the stunning rally in the nasdaq are more than just about these high profile stocks, even though you
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see them den greated as being part of those groups, which begs the question, which groups are responsible for the recent outperformance? one of those is software, so why don't we chart software? look at this, just look how this chart compare toss the power shares qqq. that's in red, against the i shares north american tech software, igb and that's in green. the 500 has consistently -- strips out all the big financials that in the index. when you see the nasdaq outperforming the s&p 500, it's clear that software is beating the rest of tech. let's start with the largest player in the space, let's start with microsoft, which you know i
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thought had a great quarter even though the stock went down. for the past eight months, poncy points out that microsoft has consistently bounced back. this is so consistent, charters love this thing. poncy these this is making an excellent buying opportunity, although with microsoft up 5% from those levels. and after the good quarter it reported, maybe you need to be patient before you pull the trigger, i mean that is a little bit far from the 50-day. poncy does think that microsoft is pretty major bought. traditionally any reading above 70 is considered overbought territory. poncy notes that when microsoft got overbought in the recent pass, your best course of action has been to wait for the stock
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to come down. >> you'll get your chance to buy closer to the 50-day moving average. maybe we can get it right here, maybe that's possible. of course it's not just microsoft. just last night, we spoke with the divisionary ceo of salesforce.com, cloud king. look at this, the stock's been on fire, as you can see from the daily chart. poncy points out that the daily -- another one's doing the same thing, but more important, the stock has spent the past month performing a bully consolidation pattern. it's done so on low volume, which poncy says is pretty normal. right now they think that traders are waiting for salesforce to break out to the up side on high volume. i like salesforce and if you're going to wait, i suggest a pull back so you can pick it up on weakness, but if you don't get a pull back, and you don't already own it, you've got my bessing to
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put a partial position on now because i think this is too good a level, it's been really consolidated for a long time. microsoft can just go up like that. we can't ignore the move on adobe systems, this is the digital media and software company that's been moving into artificial intelligence, which is a key position in my charitable trust. adobe has been on fire, it's up more than 30% year to date. i think it's emblematic in what's working in the space. poncy particularly likes that a couple of weeks ago adobe broke out from an ascending triangle to reach a new all-time high. and it's been making new highs ever since, but if you didn't make it, poncy suggests the stock to pull back to a 20-day moving average, where it's found
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support in the past. at the moment the floor is down about 141. since this is a short-term moving average, this is another stock i just adore, although i agree with poncy, let it cool a little. i just don't know if it will, it's been red hot. the charts as interpreted by ed poncy is that this fabulous tech rally is being fueled by broad strength in the software industry. based on that strength, he likes microsoft, salesforce and adobe. same thing as red hat, that one looks good too. and i think because of all the power in those names, this move, it's far from over. much more "mad money," and defining the future in your future, wow, including one metric that megin tay begin to
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now, what we don't know is if the yields are enough to keep the bear at bay and protect your principle. consider the case of verizon, att, kohl's, every one of these compani companies yields a dividend of 5%. very rise son just reported, they lost 300,000 customers, if att reported before very rise s verizon. and t-mobile which picked up an astounding 1.1 million customer force the quarter when everybody else was losing, i have felt good babout the dividends from att, this was the first quarter
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that you realized that att really needed to buy time-warner, because it's growth is not just elusive, it's nonexistent. and verizon ought to buy aol. att stock is down a little more than 8% for the year, but it's still 3% off it's lows. i think those 3 points could be surrendered. verizon is down 3% for the year, it's tempting at this level, but the comments coming out lately about merging with pretty much all comers smacks of desperation today. dividend stocks are supposed to be safe. these don't feel that way now. when i spoke to mark ford last week, i think that ford is going to generate a ton of cash for the rest of the year, there's just one problem though, ford isn't forecasting an up year, something that's pretty much confirmed by last week's auto
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numbers that were announced this morning. who in this market is willing to own a stock where the company is saying 2017 isn't the year that the company can earn. the good news, after today's thrashings, i don't see ford's stock going that much lower. but you meet some up side on the stock and i don't know where that's going to come from. autonomous vehicles are way too far off for these guys, but the spending for them is in the here and now. how about these department stores, probably the best category here. i know their business model seems broken. we know all the death of stories, however i also think that the traffic seems to trough in february, that's right, february was the bottom. and you might very well get a trade out of these macy's and kohl's when they report thursday. i think macy's can support their stores, the stock's down 18% for the year. kohl's, i actually think can do
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well, and with the stock down 17% for the year, i find it down right tempting and ready to run. slim pickings for us all. these companies didn't fall so low because the companies behind them are doing well. but i can go with kohl's, which means i want more yield before i can give the stocks my blessings. we're going to dave in arizona. >> caller: jim, a long time fan, my stock today is home depot. it's valuation is high and it's got a earnings report may 16, i wonder if i should take profits or -- >> please don't take profits, it's in the sweet spot of my fixing up your home theory, it's also gardening season, we have got some good weather across the country that,'s going to do well. if you're a homeowner, buy some and if it comes in, buy more.
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that's how good that particular company is. is it a cushion or a trap? that ee's what you have to ask yourself when it comes to these 5% yieldses. i'm going to sit down with one of my ultimate faves expedia. then i'm talking with the digital car innovator pay-pal, about it's path from the payment system of ebay to paving the way for a cashless society. come on, man, we got a nonstop, fast fire, west coast edition of "the lightning round" so stick with cramer.
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some stocks simply don't know when or how to -- expaid yarks the founding fathers of the online travel space. trevago, orbits, home away. last year expedia reported a -- even as the company sales were better than expected, up 15% year over year, is what i care about. driven by the phenomenal -- expedia's stock got dinged a little bit last friday, but it's
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come roaring back to a record high. and the darn thing now is up 30% year to date. we're going to check with the president and ceo of expedia, hear more about expedia's progress. i cannot believe you're finally getting together with me, because you know i have been thinking for maybe 100 points that this is the travel story. how have you been able to reinvent travel? >> for us it's all about the progression of travel spent from offline to online. it's just easier online, you have all the information out there, and we originally found it on taking the green screen that travel agents had and all the information that they had, turning it afternoon rrange aroe user. now we have trains available, hotel, car, air, and you can combine them in order to get discounts, so the power of online and just more stuff
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online, wiring up every travel category on the web is really what's driving the business. >> it looks like you are reinventing for more than just the regular traveler, you're reinventing for the business traveller and you're reinventing for the millennial that only knows this. >> the mobile shift to mobile continues unabated, and even more so in the asia pacific markets. in the apac markets, people are skippi skipping mobile bookings and skipping the phone. >> i wish i could just explain the checker board on how we had to do business with expedia, but what i really is -- you will making this a global transactional business, that's got to put you head to head with
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air b and bvrks which has a much bigger valuation. >> home away was a booking online. so we have been investing very aggressively in home away, increase marketing investment 60% year on year, shifting the whole business to transactional and we're seeing the growth in revenue and the growth in listings as well. >> you make a very big point, whatever's winning, you put money behind it. the wall street community says you're spending too much, you're spending what's necessary to grow, right? >> if there's one disconnect that we have some of the analysts, analysts are focused on margins, i'm focused on growth, i'm focused on dollar long-term growth. if i have to jump into a business to help our company grow, i'll do it.
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we're not on a quarterly game, we're on a come pound game for the long term. >> a lot of people think that travel has to go away, be it because of terrorism, or because of a president that wants to put barriers on destinations, uniquely, travel doesn't get dented by that and the need for immigration, you've been outspoken about that. >> very much, i immigrated here when i was 9 years old. my family had to flee iran. >> during the revolution. >> during the revolution, and we were very fortunate to come to america and be able to start a new life. but that's what makes america great, is the power of immigration, when you think about the american dream, it is the best brand out there, it's stronger than apple and microsoft and google combined
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times 10x, the american dream is you come here, you believe in democracy and the constitution and that america you're -- >> you're able to use through machine learning to know more about them now of course they want to come here, but you know more about virtually everyone who's traveling than anybody? >> we call it the thr3m. mobile, messaging, we don't need to be on the phone at the same time, i can message you. you combine that with machine learning and we can perfect our services just for you, we can be the perfect travel agent for you, constantly driven by data and getting better and better every year. >> when i look a trevago or
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looking at home away, i should be interested that they're using this 3m mobile transactions. >> you look at the travel business as a whole. it's an enormous business. we account for about 5% of it. when you look at it that way, it's a huge, huge business. we have a classic online travel agency business, that puts in great growth day in and day out, and then we have some superchargers, frevago and home away are our superchargers. >> i think this market is some going to go higher. that is the president and ceo of expedia, yes, it's at a high, i don't care, i think it can go higher, because they have the model that i most want. "mad money" is back.
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attention. we - and by we, we mean us, the entertainment-loving people of america, have updated our terms and conditions. one. from now on, the word "television" will no longer be defined as that thing over there on the wall. we want all our things to be television things. phones. ipads. refrigerators. heart monitors. ok, maybe not heart monitors. two. our shows and movies. we want them when we want them. so they should go with us. anywhere? you got that right, kid show thing. three. nothing beats live. so we want to stream all that sweet live stuff. like football. red carpets. and yelling. wait! what are we yelling about, guys? four. we don't just want unlimited data. we want unlimited entertainment. like unlimited hbo. can i stop dying now mark? c'mon man. it's unlimited. last thing. we just want all our stuff... the way we want all our stuff. that's not too much to ask is it?
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san francisco "lightning round". [ buzzer ] and then "the lightning round" is over. are you ready, skee-daddy. ryan in tennessee. ryan. >> caller: thanks for taking my call. the question is valeri, ticker symbol vld. >> the multiple is too high. let's go to byron in texas. >> caller: i want to ask you about skyworks solutions. >> let it come down for three days and then you can buy it, but that is the pattern, i'm getting tired of it.
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r raymond in california. >> caller: slumber jay. schlumberger. 68.69, a high quality company, too low, but not yet. i want oil to see if it can hold to $37. justin in maryland. >> reporter: hi, jim, i'm interested in the parent company clear channel. >> some positions my travel trust owns, which is basically comcast and facebook and alphabet. john in california, john. >> good afternoon, jim. enjoy your show and appreciate your advice. >> thank you. >> caller: my stock of the day
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is drayden restaurants. >> darden, dri, which is olive garden, i'm behind this stock, i know it's not waivering, i do believe that the stock on the spike today at $52 their all-time high could come in a little bit burks i like it very much. let's go to jose in michigan. >> caller: jim, thanks for taking my call. i buy and i get out after a 30-cent swing, but i want to change my ways, jim, let me know if aurinina pharmaceutical company is something to buy. >> i tend to be thinking they are a little dicey, let's do
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secure greater growth? or will looming competition deplete its value? >> nearly two years ago, pay-pal the online payments titan, was started by the parent company ebay, but the stock kept getting stuck in the low 30s and 40s for most of that time. except for last week when pay-pal reported a spectacular quarter. the stock shot up 6% last thursday, and has been moving higher ever since. earlier today we got to sit down with the president and ceo of paypal. take a look. dan, if we could talk about outperformance on the sales line, we talk about outperformance on the profit line, i want to talk about demock advertising money for the world. that's why you're beating the numbers? >> we had a great quarter, as you saw, revenues grew 19% on a
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quarterly basis, we exceeded the street expectation and generated more than $600 million of free cash flow, but the thing that i am most proud of are our customer -- that was up 35%, from the quarter a year ago. and we thought the quarter a year ago was pretty good as well at 4.5 million, so not only are we adding more customers burks they're using it more frequently, now 32 times a year, up from 28 a year ago. and a lot of that has to do with what you're talking about, a different way of imagining a value proposition, for consumers that takes advantage of software and mobile. >> some people look at the model and say that john ledger is done with t-mobile, which is the unnetwork, the uncarrier. you are the unscholastic.
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it seems like from someone, like both my kids is skipping over plastic, and going right to digital? >> i think the way that we think about the world is digitization is redefining the financial services industry. i there's going to be more change in the next five years than in the last 30 years and that's because of mobile, mobile is hastening the digitization. distribution is almost ubiquitous, and what you can start to do if you reimagine the management and movement of money in a digital world, with software and mobile, you can think about doing the basic transactions that you and i take for granted, that are like
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cashing a check, or paying a bill, or sending money to somebody you love or evening getting credit. for so many people in the world, 2 billion people in the world, and about 70 million people here in the u.s., that's incredibly time consuming, they stand in line to do that and then it's very expensive. they spend almost 10% of their disposable income on unnecessary fees and interest rates. and when we talk about democratizing financial services, we can do it in a way that saves time and is much less expensive. >> i want to talk about you for a second. a lot of people felt, and you're a humble guy, visa would have destroyed you, mastercard, wells
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fargo, google. that's what i have heard. how have you been able to forge partnerships, those companies realized that you don't have the reach that you have with millennial's, with young people? >> i think if you take one step back, we as a management team here at paypal felt that our overriding mantra is to be a customer champion. and to be a customer champion is the only way to build an enduring and great company over the long-term. so what we looked at our business model and said we want to give customers complete optionality on how they want to pay and where they want to pay. whether it be in-app, online, in-store, whether it be with their credit card or their bank account. give them full optionality on that. it opened the door to partnerships around the world, visa, mastercard, discover,
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financial institutions like citi. vodaphone, technology companies, google, all of them have started to become allies in this move to digitization, to take the best of their assets, our pay platform and our scale, put those together and really drive the digitization of the financial industry. >> the younger people said, jim, venmo. venmo is a verb, you have not spent a lot of money promoting venmo, this is almost a grass roots movement, how does someone have a progressive e commerce grass roots move in 2017? >> it became a viral phenomenon
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among millennial's. is because we didn't try to create a payment service. we really thought about what do millennial's value and so much of it is in the social interaction they have. so we really created a payment for the social media era that we're in. every payment that somebody sends to someone, they tag it with an icon or a comment. people open the venmo app several times a week, not just to make a payment, but to see what their friends are doing. venmo has exploded with almost no marketing. we did $6.8 million in the first quarter, that's the 15th straight quarter in a row where we have more than doubled it's volume. so now we're looking to take
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venmo to the next level so we can have even more value for consumers so not just peer to peer, but also transactions at merchants a e s and that will g them more value. >> in the time left i want to say when i got into the business which is very many years ago. the in the last ten years, the greatest growth stocks have been in visa and mastercard, many think that paypal may be the next iteration. >> first of all, we have 203 million people using our platform, 16 million merchants on it. so there is a huge scale effect that's happening right now, a network effect. but two big trends are happening, the digitization of money from cash to digital, and
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then in retail, that is fundamentally being redefine fwed by the possible phone and so much of what happened online and in store, it's sort of buy online and pick up in store. so you're seeing both of those trends play into the stream that paypal can often to the market. >> it's been a good run and i think it is very, very early. thank you so much for sitting down with us at your head headquarters. think again.
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my i suggest you take a breath and recognize that apple has a great balance sheet, it's doing incredibly well and stop panicking. own it, don't flip it and don't trade it. and you know how much we like to hear from clorox. i like to say there's always a bull market somewhere, i promise to help you finding it.
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