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>> oh, no, i'm not a seller, a buyer south of 100. >> all right. >> you will get a couple more days of headlines saying impeachment. buy gdx and things you believe in. monsanto, my mission is simple. to make you money. i'm here to level the playing field for all investors. there's always a bull market somewhere and i promise to help you find it. "mad money" starts now. hey, i'm cramer, welcome to "mad money." welcome to cramerica. other people want to make friends, i'm just trying to save you some money. my job is not just to edntertai you but to educate and teach you. you mean stocks can go down too? you mean they can actually get
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slammed? they can lose us money? dow plunging 368 points, nasdaq plummeting 2.57%. a total give up. yet this is what happens when we haven't had a major selloff in ages. we get feel who realize, omg, this stock business isn't what i thought it was. they start panicking, thinking there's nothing wrong with my stocks, but they're going down anyway, but they say get me out of here, i've had enough of this pain. to which i say get used to it. it happens, it's a normal occurrence, but we have had a built of a drought for months. so there are plenty of new investors who don't even know what an umbrella is. many others have never heard of a raincoat. they think that rain only happens to other people. so lists go over my rules for
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dealing with the first serious down day in ages. first we need to figure out what is the approximate cause of the down. it's about the ongoing comey/russia scandal, but the people who only read the business pages, the actions can be very costly. i say that because we're almost through earnings season and you can pretty much count the number of disappointers on your fingers, no toes necessary. i haven't seen such a positive group of investors in a deck indicate. there's about 300 major companies that reported. ing among that, ford, verizon, snap, jcpenney and dick's stands out as losers so far. also though cysco -- the most important thing to understand is
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that this decline is not about the fundamentals themselves. something else is dragging stocks down, this slow motion in washington. we need to puzzle over why it's hurting stocks what's the intersection, what's the interlock? for months, i've been saying that president trump has been his own worst enemy, it's been clear for a while now that the chances of his economic agenda getting through congress are slim to none. i keep saying you should forget inf infrastructure, the only thing you can count on from this administration is deregulation, but the roll back as gone as far as it can without it getting too major. trump's not in sync with congress. but in this country, it's congress that passes. now normally i would say what
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the heck does that have to do with the price of heavy equipment in china, and i urge you to buy caterpillar, but we have to con tend with an economic slowdown caused by an endless fallout from endless intelligence investigations. some have talked about the possibility of impeachment. not democrats, republicans. that still seems pretty likely to me. if he's charged and found guilty, then pence becomes president and he would have a much better chance of passing tax reform and repatriation, but that doesn't seem very likely. still people are starting to worry that this political morass could hurt the economy. many banks are up because the
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bankers expect for the fed to keep raising interest rates. but if the economy gets breaker because of washington, the bank stocks will get poichbded even harder than they were today. so the financials are at the epicenter of this downturn. and the rules are, stay away at all times from the blast. now we get the link an, in that scenario, it's not just the banks that can get hurt. you can always check the transports, they are a great monitor, and they have been clobbering here too. that's the slowdown that's taking hold in the psyches of americans who are the larger investors who really determine what prices you're getting on your screen. however there's always a flip side. there's always something that goes up when other stocks go down. companies that need a stronger economy or higher interest rates could see their stocks get slapped. so who are the beneficiaries?
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a crippled presidency and a weak federal reserve represents a weak dollar. means that the stocks of recession proof companies with good dividends work their way higher, even on bad days like today. the quintessential winners in this sector, should be the growth stocks with the best fundamentals and good business plans. pepsico spent most of the day in growth column. look for the best yielding secular growth stocks, those are magnets for money. rule number three on a selloff. don't by the performers who have been going up day after day after day. these are the stocks of companies that should benefit from a slowdown, because they have great growth even with a slowing economy. they are companies that truly benefit from a weak dollar because they have a lot of
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business overseas. you can imagine if their stocks should theoretically go higher here, but there's a larger issue, your fellow shareholders. after the huge run we had in nasdaq, you have some tired fellow travelers, that are running for cover as if they're being pelted by hail, and they'll do anything to get inside, even if it means panicking and scheduling the good with the bad. there are some good ones. same goes for all the investors who tend to buy stock on margins, after a big run, they'll be sacrificed on the altar of momentum over the next few days for certain. that's just what happens. not few hours, few days. remember, no one everybody got hurt taking a profit, so we can't begrudge anybody who sells here. that means the buyer who is need to beware at least initially. how do i know this? because this morning i was reading my twitter feed, i never saw so many people anxious to
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buy on the way down. i on the other hand would rather miss that first wave of sellers and wait until they have created enough destruction that i feel better about coming in. that's why the don't be so eager rule has staying power. yeah companies li let them leavn volition and create lower prices before you take the bat off your shoulder. wait for that big fat pitch. and then buy slowly on the way down, not all at once, they're not going to call a third strike on you. thank you warren buffett for teaching us this, be sure that you tune in tomorrow morning to "squawk on the street" when we drill ceo robbins about what happened, they are killing that stock, just crushing it.
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on days like today, i've got three simple rules, stay away from the blast zone, buy companies with a good yield and keep your bat on your shoulder, you don't need to sell with the sellers. have patience and you'll score soon enough. let's go to russ in pennsylvania. >> caller: simon property group. i have taken a bath in it. and it's down 25%, do i just hold it? >> i was on a conference call last night for urban outfitters and it was very negative where they told you that the rents are coming down. and that means simon property group's coming down, so i got to tell you, i don't think it's a mistake to get out of that stock, i didn't like that conference call at all. john, in my home state of new jersey, john. >> caller: jim, i just wanted to say thank you, and i had a quick
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question about dick's sporting goods, dks, do you think it's a buy or a sell? >> i didn't like their commentary at all. they said that camping world, but a couple of quarter where is they're going to be in trouble because of so much inventory, that was just one of those conference calls where i said, are you kidding me? no, it's not too late to sell. steer clear of the epicenter of selling. look for companies that do well on a slowdown, and wait for a pitch you can really lay the wood to. those are your three simple rules for dealing with a selloff and i teach them all time. not too late to learn them. from home depot to home sales, a home builder with a significant stake in the home market of california. but first, is there pin action of that strong home depot
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on a day when the markets just got pounded, for the first time in a long time, i think it's worth searching for buying opportunities that will probably develop over the next couple days. yet we finally got some weakness. as i always tell you, you never want to chase stocks and always if possible buy into that weakness. consider the story of stanley black n decker, a company that spent a whole year on fire, more than tripled the performance of the s&p 500. here's a company that's benefiting from some big changes in management, like the acquisition of newell brand of tools. however in the past week, the stock's begun to pull back, it's now back 5 bucks from it's
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52-high, why? because they just made an offering of 600 equity units. to me the weakness here seems misguided. i don't know if the sellers just don't understand how these equity units work, or if they just want to take profits, but at any rate, you're setting up to get a high quality stock getting some unjustified weakness. let me explain, after getting hammered in the fourth quarter of last year, stanley black n decker has spent this year levitating. on the fundamentals, this is a business that is in great shape. in january the company delivered a 3.8% earnings beat. and the guidance for 2018 was pretty robust, with management reporting 4% of organic growth. and the company has state offed
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a fortune through various cost cuts. four weeks ago is stanley and decker -- a 9 cent everyonings off a dollar basis. spanning the gross market of 140 basis points, even better management raised it's full year earnings guidance pretty substantially. i would say one of the best reporters of the year. evening though we know that stanley black and decker is doing well. but we have got these terrific acquisitions. we learned the company snapping up newell's tool industry, and that's irwin and lennox brand. and they got terrific space at home depot. and they paid $1.5 billion in april. it sure seemed like a good idea. more aisle space. it makes a lot of sense when you look at the number. stanley black and decker is expecting 89 million in sales.
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the acquisition will boost its earnings per share, rising to 50 cents a share in the third year, that's excluding some restructuring charges that the company will need to eat in the next few years. still stanley came out and raised the 2017 forecast. that's how confident they're feeling about this. on january 5, we learned that stanley black and decker was buying the rights to sears craftsman. they got it for only $900 mill kbl kbl million. gains ratcheting up to 35 cents to 45 crepts a share. stanley black and decker can -- you know what the pain didn't
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even stop yesterday when stanley black and decker held a pretty darn bullish analyst day, in its conference call says it's toolers are among the strongest sellers in any aisle, in other words the tool category. $750 million offering, long story short, what you need to know is that stanley black and decker doesn't need to pay any dividends on these pieces of paper and barring any circumstances they can't dig into common stock until 2020. personally if these guys had to raise money to finance all that deal making, it's a pretty creative way to go got it. i wouldn't recommend the equity for home gamers. i don't like something we didn't buy and sell on the stock exchange. but the common stock is
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absolutely worth buying into this weakness. stanley black and decker is doing this to race money for an acquisition in one of the hottest companies. the company said while the stock ing action went down on the news, stanley black and decker is predicting that its sales will double by 2222. ceo jim mauery said the company likely won't do any more deals for a new more quarters, they need to integrate their latest purchases. stanley black and decker is sells for less than 17 times next year's earnings estimate. we heard from home depot that
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tools and remodels of homes is hot. then of course today selloff didn't help anything. i think you need to view any continued weakness here a rare opportunity to buy a very high quality stock coming down from its all-time high at a discount to its excellent future prospects. that's called investing. nasty days like today can force even seasoned investors to make some portfolio errors. you're going to want to hear what i say next. home builder try point hasn't rallied like many of its peers. plus i'm sitting down with a ceo of a company that's trying to change the way that countless people deal with their diabetes, although it's a little sometity by the government.
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own and said, hey, i got a gain on this one, ring the register, or maybe you said amazon is as expensive as all get out, i got to go. or maybe you said i'm being greedy here and how screwed up washington is and it's time to leave. i always say bulls make money, bears make money and indecision gets slaughtered. you're worried about the implications of the endless trump scandals, . if anything you can always sell some of it up here, some of the house is money. that's nirvana. what i talked about today on my monthly conference call. les talk about starbucks, at first i was scanning all the stocks that the trust owns, auld do. and i saw that the stock of
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starbucks was actually up this morning and the rest of the market was crushed. i said oh, boy, that's my attractive chance to look in a gain to get out, it's up. why not, right? isn't that what the opportunity is about? then i started thinking a couple of things. first, what kind of buying power is out there that this stock can bust the s&p 500 furtherers sellers? what does that say? it says they're motivated. the overall action made me nervous, so this one was an opportunity. you think back to last quarter, if you listen to our "squawk on the street" interview with howard schultz and kevin johnson, you heard that things got better as the quarter went on. and they're getting their arms around the problem of too many customers coming in at once, including mobile pay. panera bread had the same problem, when it was fixed, the stock zoomed.
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only panera bead had a stock offering. this tells me you can't give it away here, if anything, you want to be a buyer on weakness. like amazon, starbucks have been an incredible long-term performer and yet very few people have been in on it for the whole run. especially as my colleague david favor pointed out. mcdonald's is much stronger than amazon. that's something i didn't see coming. but what matters to me is i don't want to be shaken out by this period of underperformance anymore i wanted to be swept out of apple on days like today. they try your skill, your patience if not your blood pressure. but i don't want to look back at starbucks the way i looked back on amazon, yeah, i sold that, was it something to do with trump?
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comey? believe me, it's not going to hatch. i don't want it to happen to my travel trust, because that's not how you invest. it is how you panic, though, there you go, no one ever made a dime panicking. walter in north carolina. walter. >> caller: boo-yah from north carolina. thanks for taking my call, i watch your show daily and have for many years. >> thank you. >> caller: i consider myself an experienced and knowledgeable investor. having followed the market daily for more than 35 years. but what has happened this past six to eight weeks and particularly today has thoroughly confused me. the dow, nasdaq and s&p reached record highs, interest rates have been raised twice and two more increases are expected by the end of the year and yet all
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financials are experiencing day to day drops. today was 2.5% to 5%. particularly bank of america, which dropped $1.42 almost 50%. many analysts have recommend both bank of america as a solid investment with the potential price of $30 by year end. last quarter, they were up 41 cents from 35. and this quarter they project to earn 37. >> walter, what you have to understand, and this is really important. is something you said in the middle, which is that you expect two rate hikes, what's happening now is that people are starting to think that those two rate hikes won't occur. because there's a slowdown because of all the problems on capitol hill and the economy's not pickling up here. bank of america benefits the most of any from the rate hikes,
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and what this is saying that those rate hikes are being taken off the table. thank you for the kind words. let's go to richard in florida. >> caller: hey, cramer, thanks for taking my call. i have two questions got verizon, do you have any thoughts about the voip lawsuit and how it's going to be affect verizon stock and number two, is this a good time to buy verizon. >> i understand that verizon is entirely based on no growth, it does-year-old yield 5%. the lawsuit doesn't matter, but if they don't come up with a way to grow, then the stock is going to keep going lower until it yields about 5.5%, 6%. don't panic, but they have got to come up with a reason to grow, and they don't have it right now. let's go to herb in florida. >> caller: jim, i'm a huge fan.
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five clears action alerts. >> fabulous, i hope you were on that call today. >> caller: thanks to you, i have been able to defer my future social security by five years. as far as arconic and arcoa, it's sort of like a high school feud going on, and i get the blue proxy, and the video clip and the this and the that. what ee's going? >> who's happened is that they have raised a seriouslies of issues that they think arconic can do better. klaus was the guy who was instrumental in breaking up
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arconic and alcoa, i think people should vote with the insurge insurgents, not with management. headlines out of washington certainly make this world more uncertain. and while you may want to lock in some gains, there's some long-term winners like amazon and starbucks. i have a sit down with home builder tricore group. and then all kind of tech titans from google to apple seem to be circling the health care space. and what stocks will stand up after today's declines? i'll give you my opinion in tonight's edition of "the lightning round." so stay with cramer.
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when home depot reported its excellent quarter yesterday, the company cited the strength of the housing market. some of them have kind of lagged behind the rest of the group. take tricore group. a stock that hasn't had much momentum since it became public in 2013. this thing became public nearly 4 1/2 years ago and it's trading at $4.50 and change. the stock's up 8% year to date. we know the company delivered a solid quarter three weeks ago, while the headline numbers were mixed. there was a lot to like, tripoint's backlog, year over
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year, plus management's full year was very, very positive. could they be coming back here? let's take a closer look with doug bower, welcome to "mad money," good to see you, sir. >> thank you for having me on. >> okay, so today we had a dramatic move in interest rates, they came down and that could affect the affordability of moms. >> we're very opportunisopportu have a 30% to 40% moveup as a balance of sales. so we're not as susceptible to interest rates as other builders. >> give us your perspective on this market, because housing does punch above us weight. >> we had a 13% increase in orders, and there's demand across all segments, entry left h level move on up. we have the second highest level
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in the mid 500 and we're still selling 3 1/2 communities per month and that's a very strong pace, and the demand is real, it's across not only the 25-year-old to 35-year-old the millennial's but also the baby boomers and all those in between. >> what's your side to it? because if the company's just starting to come back, it's not the right time to sell. >> we had eight great years with starwood and we really appreciated their investment. but our strategy and our outlook has not changed. we reiterated 2017 guidance, we also provided 2018 delivery guidance of 5,100 to 5,400 deliveries by the etchnd of 201. if you take a look at the
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midpoint of that range, 2017, that's a pretty good average growth rate. so pretty good growth we have built in for the next couple of years. >> is that why your company has been pretty active in buying back stock? >> the stock as you said, i think is underappreciated. we did a deal with reverse housing trust. a home builder is only as good as their land inventory, that is november, we took a look at the inventory, the 13,000 lots in california, and we came up with a value of about $15.33 as far as an implied book value. what that means today is we're trading about a 20% discount to book. >> k.b. homes were the same thing in 20 12, there's scarcit of california land. at the height of the craziness, we heard that there was no more land.
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but california is the strongest market in the country, isn't. >> it we had growth in our or r orders of over 38% quarter over quarter. you go to san diego where we're building entry level product, at 400,000, that's entry level in california. all the way up to $2 million luxury homes that we're selling two a month. we have this land that we inherited from the purchase of rico, and it's entitled 15,000 lots in a very bite mment restrained market. we will pull that inventory through the p & l over the next two years. >> when the previous ceo was goc over his holders, i said, geez, this is just a great land bank and you have taken advantage of it. we have heard from home builders labor is a problem. how hard is it to find people.
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>> it isn't hard, there's labor out there, it has extended cycle times over the last couple of years. the key to solving the labor issue long-term, though, is really as an entry, and this is something as an industry group we're looking at, is getting into the high schools and getting a better educational component into the construction industry. it's been discouraged to go to vocational schools. >> they want everyone to go to college. >> and not everyone goes to college, we know that, so there's a great opportunity for students today, to create a great living and not incur that student debt. >> president wants people to stop dumping lunchti ining lumb country. what does that mean for you? >> the cost of lumber, like everything, the markets are pretty efficient. it started going up in the fourth quarter of last year.
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if you actually looked at the future market after the tariff was discussed, the headline, it was down 10%. so we have built into that, that cost pressure on lumber and frankly we have been able to pass that along with the prices of our houses, so it hasn't affected our gross margins up until now. >> k.b. homes was hated, you guys are not loved. it doesn't make sense to me, because i know what that situation is in california, you guys have great land. take a look at where their land is located and if you know california, you know they're in the right spot. mad muffoney is back after the break. (burke) at farmers, we've seen almost everything, so we know how to cover almost anything. even a coupe soup. [woman] so beautiful.
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>> caller: hey, jim, this is david in athens georgia giving you a big boo-yah. now, jim, my question is concerning the undervalue of social net working platform in china by the name of momo. and yesterday it soared. >> this was the sign that we were due for a correction, i knew it when i left the office yesterday, i said, momo is off, you've got every single one of these guys from china, they're up 10%, they got too speculative, and i did not catch it until i left the office and i'm really bummed about that. no, you can't buy it. i'm sorry we're going to see baba reporting and let's just hope that that can turn things around, but holy cow, that group was a bad tell for this market. i need to go to john in maryland, john? >> caller: hello mr. cramer, a
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blue crab boo-yah to you. and first, thank you, thank you, thank you. under armor has taken a beating. >> they said business is very, very good. and they liked the under armor introduction and it's selling well, but we have foot locker coming out and i think it's going to be squeezed by nike and adidas. i have no catalyst to tell you to buy it, that's the problem. brian in florida. >> caller: e. trade's commission's cost cut. >> it's an inexpensive stock and i really believe that this market will allow people to come back in and they will make money, but not if the fed doesn't raise the rates twice. this one needs two rate hikes to
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make the big money, so now we have to wait a little bit to see if we get the second. let's go to john in illinois, john? >> caller: thanks for taking my call, cramer. >> you're welcome. >> caller: i want to get your opinion on a stock that i own, it's name is mimedx. >> i looked into it because i wanted to use the product. this is a soft tissue cartilage, let me do some work on this. mazor robotics, that one won't quit, it's been downgraded and downgraded and it still won't go down. let's go to norm in tennessee. norm? >> caller: my company is i rrbg >> we just commissioned a piece today about what the heck is happening with irobot. we want to figure it out ourselves. we have to do a piece, we don't
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hassle free way to monitor your diabetes. last year things got really rough for dexcom stocks because they got worried about the competition, medtronic. dexcom -- it meant that the company had the only product in the class that the government would pay for. so the stock shot up from 57 to 84 on a single session on the news, since then dexcom fell today. dexcom missed wall street's revenue estimates on the c conference call. still the company reiterated its full year guidance, and while
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medical delays are a problem, at this point the stock has repealed almost all of its gains from the medicare ruling. let's go to the president and ceo of dexcom and find out more about his company and where it's heading. thank you for coming back on to clarify things. on your conference call, you mentioned at one point, you said there wasn't anything that was a part of this process that really had been like any other. it really was exciting when you got that go ahead? >> you remember when i was here last time and i told you we were expecting it 18 months later and it came a couple months afterwards. csx has been very cooperative trying get this through, the organization has been, and people understand the need for people to have this. as we said on our call, we have thousands of patients lined up, 15,000 medicare patients in our pipeline who want this project.
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but all the boxes have to be checked and we just haven't done all those steps yet. >> it's weird they haven't. >> it's cmx but we're talking with them and we'll get it all done. >> traditionally what would have happened? what would have be the process so that these 15,000 people wouldn't have been left hanging? >> traditionally there's a national or a local coverage decision and once those decisions are made and then the guidelines are in the system and people who bill for the medicare services or provide the medicare products can go in and everything works optimally. we got something called a joint directive wrote the criteria are outlined but the coverage is not in the system yet. so that created a set of expectations. and again, we have had continue wall discussions with them, it's all goc to work out, it's just going to take time. >> is it possible during this
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interim, that medtronics get an advantage because you're not able to fulfill -- >> we have the only continuous glucose monitor that has a therapeutic claim and that therapeutic claim is what's required to do this. >> what about this artificial pancreas, that gets people excited from medtronics. >> we have been into the glucose monitoring for a long time. and most of the studies that have been done have been done with our glucose therapy. the most important thing we see is continuous glucose monitoring and glucose therapy. when a patient is provided continuous glucose monitoring, the impact of that is better than anything you can give them.
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let's stick to that. >> apple watch, you figured out how to make that work? >> apple watch works very well. and our partnership, they were very helpful in getting on the phone and helping people with the watch. >> refresh people where you are with vera lrkverallee relations product development relationship and we have licensed a lot of technology and actually a lot of brain power, some incredibly smart people to minimize our products and make them more efficient and make them able to communicate with more thing. >> will it be a gen 6? >> our no calibration 14-day sensor. >> no calibration 14-day sensor, very big break through. >> very big break through and we
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haven't started the studies on that but we will. and the product after that one is where we take all this miniaturization and put it in a package about the size of a penny. if you can put something the size of a penny on your body and measure glucose continuously. as we look at the future in diabetes type 1 management and diabetes type 2 management. >> i'm glad you came on and clarified. thank you from our viewers. that's kevin seyer president and ceo of dexcom. ♪ we're drowning in information. where, in all of this, is the stuff that matters? the stakes are so high, your finances, your future. how do you solve this?
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