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looking to buy ahead of the corner. >> i think you sell. >> leaving on that. >> you made the therapeutics. it's breaking out. >> thanks, for watching. see you back here at 5:00 tomorrow, "fast money" starts right now. my mission is simple, to make you money. i'm here to level the playing field for all investors. there's always a bull market somewhere, and i promise to help you find it. "mad money" starts now. hey, i'm cramer. welcome to "mad money." welcome to cramerica. other people want to make friends. i'm just trying to make you some money. my job is not just to entertain but to educate and teach. so call me at 1-800-743-cnbc or tweet me @jimcramer. you need to stay focused here! you may think this market is all
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about comeygeddon! you may think it's about being comey toast! but on this show we only care about washington insofar as it can help to try to make you money. it's important not to miss the forest for the trees. the dow averaging up nine points. nasdaq advancing 9.3%. i think the story is much less about director comey versus president trump than it is about two stops. invidia versus nordstrom! i know. only i could boil down a constitutional crisis into two stocks. that's all right. they're jumping. i can do it. as riveting as the comey testimony was, for me, it means only one thing, forget about
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washington. forget about it. if you're looking for anything good, these hearings, that's it. they have derailed entirely. the trump economic agenda the stock market likes very much including repatriation and tax reform. in that landmark documentary, duck soup, you have to take up the tax before you can take up the carpet. at this point, trump, he can't even take up a carpet. yeah, it's that bad for the agenda, even as i tried to quell all talk about impeachment on the street this morning. that seems ridiculously premature since the president seems to have his own party even if he does seem to be drowning in the swamp. why did the market keep going up? simple. there's an endless battle right now, about invidia versus
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nordstrom! but, really, the code for growth versus value. the crazy thing is both stocks were higher today. unusual to see it go up at the same time. let me set the scene. as i said there's a new nifty 15 out there. buy buy buy buy buy! what happens? the growth manager maniacs immediately glob onto the top. what happened? invidia? incredible. when you have a hot one it doesn't stop when the bell rings. invidia is up 10 and the bell rings and it rallies another three or nothing. in part because we praised it haas night as the most important growth in this market and also because a level headed analyst put a $300 price tag on this
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$160 stock thanks to its extraordinary reach in data center, artificial intelligence, machine learning, high performance computing, which means gaming! today's move is the equivalent of the buyer saying, trump tax cuts finished, forgot about it. we have to buy stocks that don't need washington. and those that you would sacrifice your left arm for. what about nordstrom? invidia goes up almost everyday. nordstrom the first time in ages. this morning the family announce they'd would look at take their store private. and it went up and then gave up half closing up at $4.50. i think it's crazy. if it goes private i think it will it will fetch a much higher price. i think the company will go for
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sale and the transaction occurs and you can make money buying nordstrom. why? some of these private equity firms that have half a trillion in profits, it makes a ton of sense to pi, that way the company can spend the way it needs to if it's private, miss quarters without penalty and run the retail company without the endless amazon glare. nothing is simple when it comes to value, especially value because of the changes in retail. nordstrom, one of the great growth retailers of all time had a rough go of it lately, missing a lot of quarters because of the slow death of the shopping mall and lightning quick action of amazon. it has put a fortune online. do you know every store is profitable? taking itself private might allow nordstrom to do even more.
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one day when the brick and mortar prospects don't seem grim the company can go public again. who will the new owners be? is this perhaps the recognition by the nordstrom family retail is irredeemable so they are going to sell all their stock to a private equity firm. is this a cashout with the foremost retail family of our fine other than the waltons walking away from the industry? if that's the case things are even scarier than we thought. remember earlier, mickey drexler resigned from the retailer j. crew, another company that went private. if mickey couldn't make it work, frankly, who can? stick with the met for, go further. the nordstrom sale might show other retailers like whole foods might be undervalued and also
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should go private. it was value day today. we saw the beaten down financials in the oils. like 5 below. would anyone want to buy these dogs? believe me, they were out there. this is day two of the federally and the meeting is in sight and they passed the stuff in europe and they will raise rates and raise estimates for the bank. oil? the stocks are trying to stabilize. remember at the close, i said as we get closer to 43 the stocks will stabilize. 43 has been my target. only a couple bucks down here. we're that close. why? because if oil doesn't go down to the 30s, if the american producers killing the price of the commodities shut in their wells because they aren't making much money below 45, something
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that has happened time and time again and it has held, these stocks will bounce and bounce hard. the bounce is worth playing. bounce is the operative term for the banks and oil and retailers. these are trades, people, sparked by retail and plummeting to the bottom although i repeat nordstrom stock is too low and should be bought here and some stocks are too cheap to ignore. one other scenario i hear people talking about today might mark a peak in the hostility towards the president not unlike when he fired comey to begin with. but trump could reclaim the narrative with tax cuts. it would be difficult to pull off and require a level of discipline and attention we haven't yet seen from the white house. the bottom line, right now the story is we have good trade in retail in banks and oil along with solid investments with the
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oil and growth stocks. have i mentioned invidia? okay. let's throw in fang and alibaba. however, what happens in washington, whatever happens in washington, i say investing growth or weakness, both have a way of working when you least expect them to. let's go to jamal in texas. >> caller: hey, jim, with the recent sell-off in retail stocks, do you think footlocker should only benefit moving forward especially with the trading of -- >> which one? footlocker. that was not a great quarter so they're in the penalty box with me. i think they'll be okay. i have to aunder armour bottoms, kids, if you're watching, hey, i can be cool, too, people see me with the new hair, i'm cool as
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all get out! well, i don't know, my wife said it. spencer in florida, spencer. >> caller: hey, jim, wondering what you think about the oncology pipeline, ariy? >> it's not bad. we will have a company on tonight that has a really really great pipeline i think a little more exciting frankly from doing the home work. let's go to ali. he could be from ali's bargain store, in california! >> caller: hey, jim, ha-ba-booia! from california! thank you for making this show fun for all of us. >> remember, i had to have the bar exam, when you go you get these classes, you take the classes before you take the bar exam and the best professors make the most dry stuff
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interesting. that's what i'm trying to do. how can i help? >> caller: subsequently she's been on me to buy and i want to ask you if this recent comeback is a time to get in? >> i like alta. mary dillon is hitting it out of the park. that was the best quarter of any retailer. these other guys are using the donner party cookbook, not alta. ulta. there's a battle in this market, about growth versus value. today, they were aligned. they were jumping. stay focused. on "mad money" tonight. has fang lost its fight? i will explain just ahead. then, a company that nearly doubled the past year and no one is paying attention to it. and ceo from under the radar biotech from my hometown worth
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nearly 30% more in the past month. did you miss the movie inovio? i suggest you stick with cramer. >> announcer: don't miss a second of "mad money." follow @jimcramer on twitter. have a question? tweet cramer, #madtweets. send jim an e-mail to madmoney@cnbc.com or give us a call at 1-800-743-cnbc. miss something? head to madmoney.cnbc.com. what's critical thinking like? a basketball costs $14. what's team spirit worth? (cheers) what's it worth to talk to your mom?
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all your tv at home. the most on demand, your entire dvr, top networks, and live sports on the go. included with xfinity tv. xfinity the future of awesome. it hasn't always been about fang! the acronym i created to highlight the greatest growth stocks of the year, facebook, netflix, google and alphabet. do you know before fang there were the candies! >> that's right, another acronym i coined back in 2010 for a different group that won't quit. lately i've gotten sick of hearing how fang crushed, i had
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to dust off the candies in order to show how things really work with growth stocks. you know what, i was pleasantly surprised to see, seven years later that candies are still crossing it! who are the candies? glad you asked. first, chipolte. then the a. stop it. a is apple. the n, hey, i was pretty good, right? netflix. the d, all right, deckers. the i, intuitive surgical, not bad, right? the e, stinker, express grips. with a logo like that it probably does stink, right? then the s is salesforce.com. these are just whoppers because my sister and i like them. these are up 281% on average versus 121% for the s&p 500.
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that's called serious outperforms. we've got to leave off the e for savings. how did i pick them? simple. they were the growth stocks in 2010 like fang is now and oddly are eerily irrelevant today. gone up 29% since the inception and up 22% this year alone. apple up 312% since candies creation. netflix biggest win, it's up 34%. deckers, rare disappointment up 35% since candies were lost and gained 25% this year. it's only up 107% since the creation of candies. the e in the acronym express grips is the real stinker, up
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only 17% since i came wake up the list and actually down 12% for the year. salesforce, the king of the hotter than ever cloud, climbing up 22% for 2017. let's go over why i chose them and what worked and didn't. i can see why the dentists are having trouble with these things, it's sticking to my shoe. what worked and didn't. at the time, chipolte was the highest valued restaurant. there were never enough chipotles. its highest quality problem the lines were too long and there was a healthcare scare and it got crushed. it's been 15 months since the last outbreak and the stock is doing well as we said it would be doing, rallied since the past. i'm tired of hearing about apple's lack of innovation sings jobs died.
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it's far cry from the total 3212% gain accruing under the tim cook era given that the biographer said he didn't leave that much on the drawing board i think it's innovated well beyond what anyone else has done in the consumer space and the quality has only improved. apple may not be the best tech company ever but clearly the best consumer products manufacturing company in history. what's wrong with that? how about netflix? i picked them because my kids were cord cutters from way back. i wish there was more thought behind it and there wasn't just like apple when the kids asked for bunch of ipods. that doesn't always work. they loved ughgs, too, when oprh endorsed it i was in, too. and a selling point for patience
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who can choose where they want to go. express grips, pharmacy benefit manager wildly became reviolated as a middleman and lost its biggest client, anthem. and a host of new business lines. the ceo has delivered and delivered and delivered some more and hence the stock's performance. conclusion, this market like all markets has a fascination with growth. it never mattered how expensive that growth was, these were stupor expensive as long as the company didn't stop growing as deckers and express did. listen to your kids. my best ever domino's, apple and lost their love for uggs even as apple and netflix burned strong. chipotle. one kid is back and the other not. and i hear about single stock
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risk. with the exception of express grip the candies were in front of you. a buy at home wrap would have made a killing. the moral, don't be scared to buy the growth stocks you brief in as long as you have the temperament to stick with them long term. my favorite, i didn't just pick for tim cook. a company behind more than 150 brands and we hardly ever talk about it. i will tell you if it's worth earning. and then the company that went up 11% just today. can the momentum continue? catering to a market typically ignored by silicon valley, budget conscious. stick with cramer. [vo] when it comes to investing,
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an asset doesn't have to be something you hold in your hand. are these assets profitable enough to shape your portfolio? >> why the heck don't iac interactive corp and its leader, chairman barry diller, get more respect? think of it. here's a stock that's nearly doubled over the past year, including a 64 plus% gain just since the beginning of 2017. yet we hardly ever hear about the company, like iac doesn't exist. i'm changing that tonight. it's because iac is a confusing conglomerate of online businesses people don't understand. they don't know how iac is structured and can't keep track of what iac owns. tonight, i want to drill down
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and explain what it is iac actually does. when you take a closer look at your business you will finally get your head around how barry diller has been able to mic his stock word and specifically how much value he has created and in the future. let me lay out what this company actually does. it is an internet media company that owns 16 key brands and some includes multiple brands of their own. ask.com. dash, "the daily beast." f dictionary.com and match that also owns tinder. 500 million monthly users, 2.5 billion monthly page views. they have been around for decades, has had a history of ink baiting great ideas and spun them off into separate companies. expedia, as well as trip advisor
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and the lucrative home shopping. and live nation. most recently, match group, another stock we like the parent of match.com and kinder also iac owns the majority of that. you look at their history way back in the 1990s when the company was called silver king communications and hsn after the home shopping network and usa networks after they bought the contents of university studios, barry diller had an eye on the up and coming trend. after the dotcom went bust he started turning more attention to the now cheap web and this is when they picked up expedia and another one we love, lending tree and college humor and
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ask.com. they never stopped trim their portfolio. they spun expedia off as a separate company and in retrospect maybe should have held onto it but maybe they needed to be on their own. and then lending tree. a home run if you listened to what he had to say. hsa, international, a time share exchange company. add up all these spin-off, barry dillard has created $40 billion in value. that's big. considering iac is only an $8 billion company. what iac does when they find a winner they know how to monetize it and exact value and spinning off a hot business. let's see what allowed this stock to rally recently. they have rallied 170% from its lows in february of last year. it's worth noting this came
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after a sell-off where the darned thing was more than cut in half. the stock is up more than 20 bucks from its 2015 highs and nearly 70 points from its 2016 lows. it got here by doing what it does best, doubling down on a hot business and monetizing it like crazy. they may seem like a jumble of holdings. right now two companies is the profitability of its growth. match and home advisor. half of their segments are losing money and still investing in theirselves for future growth. that's what we want as an incubator. last year match group alone made up 80% of the interest, taxes depreciation. the remaining 20%y home advisor. if you want to understand the performance of iac stock. look at the recent spin-offs. in may of 2015 the company took
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match group public as a separate business. you should know initially match wasn't met with much enthusiasm which was wrong and iac hold on to nearly the largest part of the country. things went south and fell out of favor. they didn't do anything wrong, fell out of favor. match accounts were most of their profitability. they have an independent valuation also crushed the stock of iac and they bottomed at $8 and change. however, once match got too cheap to ignore they began to rally in part because it became clear tinder, their online dating business was incredible. for iac, straightforward. 85% of match groups, when match goes up, iac goes up. something new.
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iac announced it will be merging the home advisor unit with angie's list that will merge with letting you find contractors. angie's list is using a listing to take home advisor public combining the name with angie, a a a a-n g.i. it's a fractured market and they will own 70 to 90% of the combined company. unlike match po, the public recognized this. didn't take long. the stocks go up. between home advisor and match iac has a lot going for it. they reported two fabulous quarters. online video will be led by iac's video brand with 213 unique million unique monthly
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viewers, about two-thirds of the size of twitter except for advertisers pay more for video than text. bottom line, even though iac has caught fire lately i think the company and barry dillard does not get the respect they deserve and do not seek it. he has proven to be a value creator over the years and i bet iac stock has a lot more room to run. >> aaron in hawaii. >> caller: hello, mr. cramer from oahu, hawaii. i want to thank for helping young investors like myself digest the market. i have a much clearer picture from watching your show and appreciate it so much. >> thank you. i appreciate that. we're trying hard to do education as our foremost goal. 12 years into it, education is our game. how can i help? >> caller: right on. i wanted to ask you about a high
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flying ipo stock, yext. they just reported earnings and the stock sank because of that even though they have like a 37% revenue growth. >> i know. i was surprised at that. they're losing money. that's what you want for a growth company. we have to do more work on them. that surprised me. i think the news is good, not bad. i have to do more home work since the quarter was reported in june. much more "mad money" ahead. do you know inovio? i will see if the stock can move further. and dollar tree near hampton bay. only i go there. what if i can do it with a click
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we have to talk about a small cap biotech that really seems to have taken off in the last month. inovio pharmaceuticals. right next to my hometown. last night we talked about the cancer immunoplays. it's big american society of clinical oncology conference over the weekend. nothing used dna based vax sin therapies that help your immune system recognize them. part of the problem with cancer it's a mutation of itself and your immune system has trouble recognizing it as hostile. inovio produced dna that produces anti-gens that lets your body recognize it as the enemy! it turbo charges the immune response. it went up nearly 11% today. news it started a phase 3
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clinical trial to study its lead drug for cervical -- a disease associated that can only the lead cancer if you don't catch it in time. a million and a half people have it in the u.s. very exciting, therapies for head and neck cancer as well as cervical cancer in phase two. i know it's early, can the stock keep climbing. let's look at the ceo and find out more about his company and the predicates. doctor, good to see you here. it is a big market. i don't know how things will work out. the fda has given you the high sign to get working? >> absolutely. we start our phase three trial. it's poised to be the first non-surgical treatment for this
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disease, first treatment to clear the virus that caused the disease in the first place. great news for inovio, great news for our shareholders but also a wonderful news for the patients who really need this. >> how long have you been developing this? >> we've been doing this the last several years. >> did it seem like the fda was delaying it and then said it's fine. what changed? certain parameters of the test? what were they looking for? >> we created like a tesla version of the delivery system. >> it's enough people to be able to validate? >> that's correct. >> the last time we spoke with you you have something else you're working on, a company with a tremendous anti-cancer franchise. how's that going? >> that's going like gang
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busters. we start our combo trial this month. it was a drug recently approved with our cancer fighting immunotherapy. it will start with metastatic head and cancer mutations that spreads other cancer. >> the first drug is made by you. how do you have enough money. sometimes it can take billions of dollars to get to the market? >> we're very focused and very good what we do. as you said, it's a very innovative way of jump charging a patient's own immune system. we can do this very rapidly and effectively. last time i was here a couple years ago we had about 150 people. now, we're doubled in size and able to execute on these
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programs, not just our first phase three, four phase two starting with big pharmapartners. the first day, we announced a combination and treating bladder cancer with retractorry patients. >> you're going after hard cancers and there's not been that much success yet you're confidence. >> yes. the confidence isn't on ignorance, based on our data. we have about a thousand patients with strong immune responses already reported across our early trials. 1500 patients worth of safety data. while we're still growing this platform has been supported with this data. >> phase three could be this or that, that is not true. what is the timeline? >> for phase three, early
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projection, data by 2020, filing by 2021. the next five years we will have three or more products on the market including our immunology products and the vaccine. >> if you get spectacular results, will it take that long? won't the government say this is compassionate use, we have to give it to these people? >> there are potentials and will use our interactions. the fda has been extremely positive. absolutely. >> our first guest would never ever partner with anyone he didn't think would have anything special. talk to us about that. >> it's a great partnership. we're taking regeneron's pd 1 inhibitor. >> very important drug. >> very important drug and combining it with our 54-1 one
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of my favorite cancers for inovio, we're swinging for the fences. i know you're a baseball fan. >> if the phillies were better i would be even more a fan. you've been at this a long time. you're playing the long game. you admit it's a long game before you get to fruition for everything. >> normally yes. in immunology and cancer there are break through things and fast tracking depends on the data. i'm convinced on the data we have thus 4. 54-1 and pd 1 inhibitor will bring about very good data. >> i don't want to get folks too excited but you have an exciting company. the president of the fatherlies company next door to where i'm from, after the break. think again.
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then the "lightening round" is over. are you ready, skee-daddy? it's time for the lightning round on cramer's "mad money." >> caller: hi, jim, i'd like your opinion on valvoline? >> it's a boring stock that doesn't cause problems and time to buy buy buy. to lee. >> caller: yes, sir. >> you're up. >> caller: okay. jim. >> you got jim, lee. >> caller: okay. jim, it's lee. >> yeah, lee, how you doing? it's jim. >> caller: boo yah. >> boo yah. >> i'm in sarasota, florida, i want to know about anheuser-busch inbev. >> i didn't like the molten coarse report yesterday. i'm going to paul in rhode island. >> caller: jim, hey, thanks for all your great advice.
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you're a godsend, man. >> thank you. >> caller: i've been very happy owning general dynamics since july. i'm looking at huntington engels. >> i like them but i like general dynamics better. george! >> caller: thanks, jim. we love you. how about blackberry? >> it's moved so much. you missed that one. find the next. tony. >> caller: boo yah! i'm calling about -- >> unnecessarily punished analog devices, i say the merger will make it work. how about mark in georgia? mark! >> caller: hey, jim. how are you? >> i'm good, mark, how about you? >> caller: fine, thanks. i followed your career for a long time since you used to be a
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frequent guest on "squawkbox" with mark haines and the brains and the kahuna. >> a great time. >> caller: absolutely. i'd like your opinion on a stock i've owned for a long time. darling international. >> they're good and take care of the animal processes, the junk and been a good business for them. to phil in florida, phil! >> caller: hey, good evening, cramer. >> what's up? >> caller: okay. we have one with a lot of momentum from deals worldwide lately in its settlement with apple. i see another persons. what do you think of nokia? >> i like nokia neutral. this one's yours, not mine. i don't think there's that much left. that's the conclusion of the "lightening round"! >> announcer: the "lightening round" is sponsored by t.d.
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find the kind of deals offered at dollar general until now. that is until holler. the privately online company for some things as high as one buck and some for two and the highest for 10 bucks. in a world that nobody wants to go shopping anymore, i think holler may have found it. the ceo of hollar is here. i'm looking over your price, i'm astonished, this unicorn i figured about 15, 20, is 2 bucks. spinsers hard to get, you have reasonable prices on. how can you get the prices the big guys can't get? >> first, it starts with people. we have such an incredibly talented team. >> all out west?
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>> oh, yes. we have been pounding the pavement, working with amazing suppliers and sourcing unbelievable products. >> is it machine learning algorithmic about what people want or just up here? >> you make a great point. this type of retail hasn't been available online. how do you replicate the magic of going to the experience of going to these stores? it takes a lot of machine learning, technology to present an amazing personalized experience. i have a fabulous dollar tree. i go there. they give great bargains for candy. these are a little cheaper. let's say dollar tree is watching this segment, that guy, david, is a hot guy. we will be hollar-rooney and come after him. what do you do? >> this is such a massive
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massive industry, we couldn't have built this business five years ago. a lot has changed and the mobile adoption has really changed to make this business feasible. also with the recession from '08 that has changed the consumer mindset. >> you think there's room? >> absolutely. we're talking about a business in the type of retail, 80 million americans shop every year. >> who is your average shopper? >> it is the millennial mom in middle america. we are chasing after a unique but massive consumer group that really has been underserved a long time. >> it's odd. people in the east may think there's lots of dollar stores, there aren't enough to serve this community around the country. >> there is transformative things happening, a lot of closing and traditional retailers. you mentioned dollar general opening up a thousand stores
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this year. >> there are so many stores, they can open up. >> everyday there are about five dollar stores opening up. >> people say, wait a second, aren't i going to lose on shipping and handling? they see those ads on tv and get this and buy this and next thing you know shipping and handling costs a lot. are they getting eaten alive on that? >> the thing is the average order is over a dollar and when you say everything is a dollar, people load up. instead of 10 items in a given box the weight is not that bad it makes the shipping very feasible. >> i like the story. you're a private company and you don't have to reveal numbers, tell us about the growth in some reasonable term and so people can say i'm making note of that if i have it in my mind.
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>> this is one of the fastest growing segments in retail. our growth has been amazing given we've only been in business less than two years. we feel fortunate because we're riding a macrotrend happening. >> you have a west coast distribution. very smart about distribution centers. if you're going to do package good stuff you have to be more than one place. do you have plans to expand in the east? >> we are do. >> you have very good backers. very smart company in on this, right? >> they believe in the opportunity how massive of a place this is. we know there's two things working in retail right now. online and offline pricing. we're chasing after a consumer group, millennials underserved. >> do like to go to dollar
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don't forget the candies, if you buy this stock you still made money. this market likes growth. the banks are okay, retail, yes, i like nordstrom and yes, even oil, but only if you're really careful because oil the crude price is probably going to hit 3-4 before it hits 54. i like to say there's always a bull market somewhere. i promise to try to find it just for you right here on "mad money." i'm jim cramer, and i will see you tomorrow! >> welcome to the shark tank,
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where entrepreneurs seeking an investment will face these sharks. if they hear a great idea, they'll invest their own money or fight each other for a deal. this is "shark tank." ♪ first into the shark tank is jonathan boos with an innovative product line for the well-dressed man. hi, everyone. my name is jonathan boos, and i'm the owner of the men's brand wurkin stiffs,
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