tv Squawk on the Street CNBC July 11, 2017 9:00am-11:00am EDT
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conflict. >> kudos to the student. >> and to mattis for giving him access to that the markets are mixed today. the dow indicated down a little. we'll be back here you're going to be here tomorrow, both of you. >> yeah. >> we'll do it again make sure you join us tomorrow "squawk on the street" is next ♪ good morning welcome to "squawk on the street." i'm david faber along with jim cramer carl quintanilla has the day off. take a look at futures as we set you up half an hour from now for the day's trading. looks like a slightly lower open european markets, you ask. we answer, will we also include spain and italy? yes, we do. >> on a roll now. >> i know. i know. >> mixed bag over there.
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worst performer is spain's ibex 35 and there's wti which i know my partner here will have a lot to talk about he almost always does. it is often a key to this market, down this morning. let's get to our road map this morning. it starts with the start of amazon shopping holiday, as the rest of retail suffers >> plus a number of recent ipos that have fallen below the bear syndicate what their pricing was, what it means for the valuations and rest of the companies that want to go pep. pepsico is out with its results as earnings season begins. we'll speak to the company's cfo on set in just a minute. >> amazon prime day is under way. the company highlighting deals aimed at enticing customers to become prime subscribers as a number of retailers are coming off a rough day on wall street
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we were talking about it here before it began. macy's saw shares fall 7%. best buy was -- >> yielding 7. >> reports about a geek squad effort at amazon, jcpenney down now in the premarket after announcing the departure of its cfo. you said this yesterday. >> i know i got it ight. >> you said wait till today. >> today is the day. >> there might be bargains in retail. >> that's what i said. everyone is going to panic we'll have to wait to hear it's up 20% somebody is going to have to downgrade. this is going to be a day where i'm taking off -- people have become so -- people have never shopped in their career are shopping i looked at this thing i am not buying the 100% glow in the dark pebble walkways for a saving of -- look at this, $11 it used to be $12.96 i'm not calling it a sham but i don't know anybody who actually
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went on and bought anything on amazon prime. >> i did this morning. i bought an echo and i bought a laptop. >> you, who has never shopped? >> yeah. it was $89.99. i was on my computer and with no intention i remembered, went on. the two things i wanted to buy said the deals ended i'm not sure what was going on this morning, though -- >> have you ever bought anything gl go back on. i went back on my phone. my wife's account. it's even better it just goes to her credit card. >> okay. this is for the neophites. >> they can spy on my entire home. >> listen in. >> subpoena the tapes if they ever need them. >> maybe this is bigger than i thought. a man who has never shopped shopped. and me, as a professional, never found anything that i want to buy. >> why is that >> i don't need a 24-pair shoe rack maybe i don't need the roomba. >> the roomba deal looked good,
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$249. >> no. do you like the new balance sneaker deal for $30 i passed on that did you see blue apron for $6 a share? >> i think i would pass on it as well. >> how about snap at $15.50? >> i might also pass. >> those are jokes i tried to make those jokes with my friend, wilf. they fell flat. >> they don't fall flat with me. >> amazon prime is really one of those things -- >> short term -- >> running shoes were bargains i will give that people were mad at me on twitter that i did not highlight the running shoe bargains. >> still to buy a running shoe online, zappos boxes are coming to my house all the time. >> but, david, this took down every retailer, including walmart, this day, took it down. >> is it ridiculous? >> i'm beginning to think it's a little ridiculous. if i were to go -- it's an
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adobe, ugly site spruce the site up. >> look at amazon. >> what, that crock pot? >> how much time we spent promoting prime the last couple of days? >> not even weber grill, coleman? >> press releases they tell you nothing but everything millions of members have shopped. amazon echo is the best-selling item. >> wrap-around 27 times. number of things they bought. >> they turned us into nothing other than -- >> an algorithm. >> i'm like jeff bezos remember, you know -- look at that do you think they had any brioni >> how many prime members there actually are more today than there were yesterday. >> lot more than there were yesterday. >> we don't know the whole reason behind the foods deal
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maybe some of them are halfway decent. >> don't you love these stocks i tried to get these wing tips same price today as they were yesterday. >> do you really buy wing tips online >> only. >> come on. >> only. >> lot of shoe stores still in new york. >> david, if they had these on sale, this whole dialogue would be very different. >> well, i'm sorry that they didn't back to retail itself. do you buy macy's? i don't know that you buy it anyway. >> i would buy some macy's debt maybe. buy sears debt. >> how about jcpenney? >> cfo left. i don't know it looks like i spoke too soon they have the brioni men's lapel suit david, this is the first time it's ever happened i'm buying with one click on air right now. $2,001 they have it for $2,000.
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that's a savings of $400. >> you can't buy a brioni suit on am ston what's wrong with you? let's move on and talk about some of those ipos >> we'll get breaking news on tesla. >> no! >> yes. >> no! >> phil lebeau in chicago has it take it away. >> rollout of the first vehicle delivered to customers at the end of the month, the company is dramatically expanding its service network. here is what tess la is announcing, 100 service centers will be added. 300 mobile service vans, the vans that will go in service of a vehicle, rural location or area if you're not close to a service center and adding 1,500 additional service workers the importance of this news is the fact that many people have said, look, as these guys expand, as they go from being a
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niche automaker to being not a huge player but certainly more significant relative to other automakers will they have the service network in place to meet the demands of can customers one thing they're doing that's sort of interesting, they know where all the reservation holders live they're looking at those addresses and saying where are the density of orders coming from that's where i want to put our service centers. tesla dramatically expanding its service component as they prepare for the rollout of the model threes coming up later this month guys, back to you. >> phil, any idea what this is going to cost them >> they have not given me a cost i asked that specifically. they said we're not divulging this at this point look, it will be interesting as they do this, guys this is part of the costs that go with beyond -- going from what they are to what they want to become. it's going to be costly, along with adding more plants, more
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giga factories at the end of the day, you and i have talked about this, david. they have to go back to the capital markets, will the capital markets say yeah, okay, as they have in the past or at some point will the capital market say, hmm, not sure about this? >> right do they actually ever get the heisman? that's the question. >> phil, i have to ask this. is there ever a sense in tesla, in the whole ecosystem, ilan musk, that it's time to regain control of the stock this is certainly a well-timed event after that bad week. or is this all happenstance? >> look, they will tell you that they do not look at the stock price. all companies say this we don't look at the stock price when we decide what news we're going to be putting out having said that, ilan musk is the master at sending out tweets, teaser social media in terms of what's coming up. and that juices the believers in
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this stock. >> right. >> you and i both know that. we've seen it time and time again. >> right. >> they say we don't look at the stock and what's going on when it comes to making announcements. >> we'll be watching that stock this morning thank you, phil lebeau with that breaking news on tesla. >> david, one brioni suit only 48 regular i'm a 42 i had to take it out of my cart. >> that was a bad choice. >> coming out, pepsico reported better than expected quarterly results, upbeat guidance if you want a brioni suit we'll go shopping today. what's working for the beverage and snacks giant this could be another look at futures as we go to the break. we'll be going to mr. johnston on the other side.
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we're driving productivity to expand margins and at the same time using a portion of that productivity to invest in innovation we really ramped that up over the last couple of years we're running about 8.5% of our revenues coming from products over the last -- they are typically more premium oriented. as a result we're getting higher dollars per ounce or higher dollars per pound. that's why you see a bit of the muted growth relative to the --
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maybe it would be helpful to share a couple of examples if you look at this life water product that we just introduced at the super bowl this year, it's an electrolyte water, has a new artist on it we feature new artists continually over time. right now we're doing a feature on women in art. and we sell it at a good price premium. so i think our innovation is working well and that's what's enabling us, along with productivity, to deliver strong results. >> i think it's interesting, hugh, that you mentioned the beverage as part of the innovation story the beverage business is still a little bit soft and not quite seeing the growth. frito-lay continues to do the heavy lifting here what are you seeing specifically resurgent in coca cola to make it more lean or trends away from carbonated beverages >> we're competing effectively
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with coca cola i certainly wouldn't characterize it as that. there's a shift going on from carbonated to noncarbonated beverages. whether it's tropicana and juice, lipton and tea, starbucks and coffee i think you'll see over the course of the year, we should compete effectively there. carb carbonated soft drinks, we're a little soft in the quarter you'll see us turn up the advertising a little bit in the back half of the year. i suspect we'll clean that up pretty well. regarding your comment on frito, exactly right. terrific quarter for frito 3.5% revenue growth, 7% profit growth leaning to innovation in a significant way. popable product, not heavy from a volume perspective but revenue perspective as a premium product.
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frito's premium revenue is up 8% in the quarter we see the consumer go more premium we're going right there with innovative new products. >> hugh, jim i see great organic growth i see that you have a product that turns very quickly. so the supermarkets love it. it's not something that the groceries really want to come after you because you're a principle source of great profit people will not realize how good your organic growth is, sell the stock down and everybody else buys the stock this has been the pattern of late. >> yeah. jim, you're exactly right. we tend to be an early reporter. as we get further into the earnings season generally we do fair favorably to most of our peers, at least we have the last four or five years i expect that will be the case again. to your point about retailers they generally do think very
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favorably of us. a lot of our products are sold on the perimeter of the store. the center of the store, things are a little more challenging right now. because our products are impulse in nature, because our products do well on the perimeter and retailers turn them so quickly -- on average, snacks turns 50 time ace year beverages turns about 80 times a year retailers do love selling pepsico products. >> hugh, as sarah and jim have both indicated and you answered as well, it was a good quarter a citi note here says we find it hard to ignore the market slowdown in volume group in most of pepsi's business segments do you think that's a fair note on their part? what do you say to that when people say, you know, volume growth is slowing down >> yeah. i think volume was a little bit slower over the last couple of quarters i don't think that's indicative of a long-term trend other than the shift into premium because,
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as premium products sell for a higher dollar per ounce or higher dollar per pound you're going to see less volume growth to generate the revenue. in a lot of ways that's good as consumers they're willing to pay more for innovative products obviously it's less stress on the supply chains if we have lower volume growth per dollar of sale. i think volume is just fine. we're not really overly worried about that at this point. >> you talk about the tax on soda ful philadelphia has one chicago is making a comeback is there a lag, drop and then you come back? had has that been the pattern? >> yeah. typically a fall-off for six to nine months and then the consumer tends to adapt to it. then you see the volumes tend to come back after that in general, obviously, we're not in favor of taxes that are discriminatory of one product.
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we're willing to pay our share of the tax burden for the good but generally speaking we're not in favor of these beverage taxes. >> no surprise there a good economic snapshot on you from the consumer. i noticed better results in the emerging markets, places like mexico and double-digit growth in china, russia coming back give us the spots where you still see trouble and which were the real highlights and surprises for you? >> yeah. i think what you see in the developed markets is a consumer that generally is healthier but a bit cautious in terms of their spending lots of the turmoil that exists in the news, i think, does cause consumers to hold back on spending a little bit. regarding international markets, mexico was terrific for us i think there was a pause with the mexican consumer in the latter half of the last year and earlier this year. now the mexican consumer is clearly leaning in, as russia has started to rebound its general economy, we certainly
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saw single digit revenue growth there. china business overall performed for us a lot of that is less about the china consumer and more about the way we're managing the business that's enabling us to perform well. >> you talk about the new channels i know you're on the board of twitter. you certainly have -- we know that amazon, getting more aggressive, without dealing with any particular supplier here, or distributor. what is the impact, say, of a deal like amazon, buying whole foods on you how much of yours is convenience store and can be, let's say, bought at impulse versus stored? what's the impact of this deal >> yeah. so, i mean, in terms of that deal specifically, we try not to talk about any specific customer generally you do see consumers buying more food and beverage online from one perspective, you might argue the case as impulse products that may not be good for you.
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i would argue the opposite case. as we learn more about consumers, both through our digital customers as well as learning from consumers independently, we have the ability to target consumers more effectively with the things they really want to buy and deliver the right messages and the right promotions and the right price points to individual consumers so, over time, i actually see the move to digital from a consumer perspective as being very favorable to pepsico and other products more broadly regarding our customer base we have a big brick and mortar setup customers, pure play customers all of these channels seem to be converging anyway. my expectation is that from a margin perspective, it will probably net out about neutral and it represents our ability to sell innovation more effectively. >> hugh johnston, thank you for joining us vice chairman and cfo of
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pepsico. >> thank you. >> more food and beverage online, less bironi suits. >> $2,000 but not my size. saving of $100. >> sarah, thank you for bringing that. >> thanks, guys. jim's mad dash as we count down to the opening bell one more look at futures before th at i put everything into my business. and i had all these points from my chase ink card.
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>> an obituary comes out this morning. they didn't mean to make an obituary but morgan stanley, competition increasing price starts at 16 snap, crackle, pop. >> boom, boom, boom. >> boom, boom, boom. >> david, why? instagram. they have a couple of reasons. the other ones are the window dressing advertisers strong growth on return investment, bidding not working. but sponsored lenses for freebie instagram. this is zuckerberg going after them in a way that is only, as i imagine what he's doing, instagram -- that's behind the downgrade. david, the print price is broken now, remember, i told you i felt bad for these billionaires >> yes yesterday, you said that i said come on. >> this was a very devastating downgrade. and others are going to have to start taking account
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return on investing may not be there for advertisers. it's very damning and that's what started the long decline of twitter. >> i want to talk about what's happening on the other side of this bell. i can hear it, of course tuesday here the big board, serenity shares. not serenity now serenity shares, recent launch of its impact, victory capital, two exchange funds speaking that have, you see the s&p 500 back at hq there kind of a mixed opening after not a bad day yesterday. >> pepsico getting hurt here exactly what we talked about people will look back and say why did we sell that this has been a common pattern pepsico had a good quarter, good organic growth. >> 3% organic growth we talked about mongolese.
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1%. >> kellogg, general mills has none so you're looking at the best of the best it's getting hit but this is the way it works the stock went up a lot versus the best of the best they report a number that does not cause you to raise forecasts. everyone kind of freaks out and says it's no good. we see their colleagues in the industry and they're not that good we circle back and buy pepsico time-honored, doing a fantastic job. it doesn't matter. the company is first out of the chute and we're saying, hmm, soda not that good. >> it's 12%, right snacks is what's driving things. >> and it's very good. understand, this was in the context of food, a fantastic quarter. in the context of everything -- johnson & johnson quarter. johnson & johnson is the best drug stock they report and people say -- and then a few weeks later they realize, wow, alex gorsky did
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the best job it's time honored. it's the way the business works. >> when i look at coca cola -- by the way, respected market caps are not that far off at this point pepsi is about -- we're talking about 106, coke is 190 what do i think when i look at coke >> coca cola is 23 times earnings. >> a lot more of it is beverages. >> right new ceo coke coke is doing interesting things and packaging spurring sales i don't regard that as the true innovation regarding pepsico but what astounds me is the market would pay more for coke than pepsi it doesn't make sense. at least the gap has been there. it used to be much bigger. >> yeah. again, i mean, as you say, it was a solid quarter. >> we didn't talk about convenience stores with price of gasoline down, convenience
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stores are up. frito-lay. you go to the store, have an extra dollar, go in and buy the frito-lays, dorito's. >> love dorito's. >> i know. i'm a sucker for dorito's. big mac, fries and diet coke. >> you know they're bad for you. >> they are? >> tesla is up. >> oh, no! >> it is. >> he's the magician. >> phil lebeau reported 100 new service centers will be put in place ahead of the model rollout. they have about 150 now. a significant expansion. >> no, it's a real thing he is the david blaine i don't know if you've ever seen him. >> i have. >> ilan musk is the david blaine phil actually mentioned ilan is the master i've often felt the higher the stock goes, the more excitement.
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it's almost like amazon prime. we talk about tesla, people say i got to go kick the tires of tesla. we talk about amazon, people go to amazon. if walmart were to do some big walmart day, we would be talking about wall mamplt maybe it starts a buy america great day. >> i like t. >> bad day. >> what are they selling have you ever been through a walmart? they don't sell brioni there are plenty of american manufactured goods, i think, but there's an awful lot of stuff from other places. >> i want to see the stuff sold well underneath the price. remember how they used to sell those rubbermaid coolers and they were below the price they paid >> draw you in. >> put the best thing straight down the aisle at the other end, make you walk the whole way across. >> amazon prime was not directed at walmart but, yes, you did buy a pc. >> i did.
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>> my wife is going to buy the cottonelle toilet paper but i beat her to it. >> you're buying your toilet paper on amazon? >> exactly did you ever schlep two bags of toilet paper from a rite aid what's cramer doing schleping toilet paper >> have it delivered to the house. amazon pantry. >> tesla is up almost 1%. >> there you go. >> i want to come back to snap you did it in the mad dash but it's worth focusing on a little over 4%, you noted the downgrade from morgan stanley, fairly negative. >> evan spiegle was not -- >> what do you do? you and i had an opportunity to sort of get the sense early on, prior to the ipo they wanted to focus investors not on a daily metrics, on levels of engagement.
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>> i know. >> where do you go now facebook, early on, was able to make that pivot after a very poor start. >> right. >> you pointed out that key conference call they had where suddenly they were all about mobile and made it happen. if you're snap, what do you do to use the word pivot to a certain extent in terms of your story and/or your business model to try to assuage the concerns >> you have to develop a product that is for the 21 to 30-year-old. >> that is what? >> to the 21 to 30-year-old. i'm just saying that this thing is a little too underage and it's viewed as being a little too subversive and has a way of delivering a message that instagram is -- david, it's really hard. instagram, facebook wants to smash snap, it can do it what happens -- here is what you have to do
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a guy by the name of evan has to come on air and talk about what he's doing evan spiegle. >> he's not going to do that. >> why not >> he was here the day of the ipo and doesn't want to talk. >> the stock was at 17 -- >> he doesn't care. >> why because they own all the stock it's a private company >> he has all the votes, every single one of them. >> north korean not parliament he should come on air. >> focus on the long term that's not about coming on and -- he needs to communicate with his customer base. >> well, yeah, but the customer base is going to instagram, according to -- you have to come on and say, listen, the morgan stanley declaration, not true. let me tell but the short-form videos i'm doing sponsored by really very big consumer product companies that you're missing because you're not seeing what we have in the pipe. i need to know what they have in the pipe otherwise, david, this is becoming one of the great but
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haves of 2017. it's a bust! >> you want to talk about another bust blue apron. >> blue apron? >> $10. >> look at that. >> someone came out with a $2 price target. >> the ceo, we had them on, defended a very good business model which, frankly, i had experience with and raised questions early on because of various things that i wondered about, whether they would be portion sized and whether it's enough whether it would be the weight of the delivery and the waste that is generated as a result of it. >> for younger millennials. >> not to mention certain things that were good, others that weren't? he was talking about sustainability, the supply chain and how they can scale the company stock price has been a disaster that is really embarrassing, to take somebody public. >> their sales are not growing as fast. their advertising budget is
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growing faster many competitors of course, amazon, if they wanted to, could offer this service once they own whole foods and bring it to you whenever you want and they'll use much better packaging. >> yeah. >> i don't know, david this was really not a great idea to bring it in terms of -- this was a desperate ipo. desperate. >> and did not have a dedicated set of shareholders there. it was a relatively small percentage of the overall company. does this put a chill into anyone else who is thinking about an ipo or, frankly, is it always, you know, take a look and make a decision based on the merits of the particular security that is being brought >> the consumer-related ipos are going to be troublesome because there's so much competition all through. anything that's enterprised is very interesting to me although, you know, you're seeing some -- i'm not saying --
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i don't want to be blanket but enterprise ipos been okay. it's case-by-case. not a disaster blue apron had a very bad timing. >> whole foods deal with amazon didn't help at all. >> no. not at all not at all i do think that it's indicative of only a company that just felt like they had to come public no matter what. i don't like it because, wow, people lost a lot of money. >> yeah, they did. very tough once it's been broken like that, it's hard. it could take years. >> you know, it's a mr. t prediction for rocky, right? >> yes forecast calls for pain. >> got it. >> calls for more patriotism this morning. >> does he >> no more -- >> thomas payne >> to the pain mr. t but
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actually -- >> a good follow on twitter. >> that's what i just -- >> you have to bring him on. have him become an analyst. >> i'll give him a jingle after. >> he's funny, too you wouldn't expect that from the u.s. attorney, former u.s. attorney. >> i asked him whether snap was going to be used by insider traders. he was not prepared. now i think -- >> didn't really know what snap was when you asked him that. >> news breaking story, not unlikemacy's but also alibaba at 90. the most important thing that you and i do together every year. >> i do not agree with that. >> that and shopping on amazon. >> any thoughts of the general market here as we head into the day? s&p down a little bit. >> bugs the heck out of me. >> i'm asking you right now. >> costco. >> costco? >> driven down from 180 to 150 mostly on fears because they had that 6% number and nobody bought
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it that's the end this is the end. jim morrison the end my friend story. that stock may be overdone, given the -- even though i expect amazon prime to be up 20%, the kind of like overall, it wasn't against costco they got oversold. time to buy costco etfs being created to bet against nuclear holocausts with the malls. i'm tired of those there's an anti-mall etf. >> not real nuclear holocaust? >> no, no. >> i thought maybe there was something based on north korea's ability to -- >> no. i think that costco is what you have to watch. that was the stock that was most brought low. we want to see if walmart recovers i'm telling walmart right now that they should have a -- >> special day. >> -- special day. they should call it -- i don't know ro rollback day. >> rollback. >> with a smile face. >> they used to do that before.
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>> it's time they did it again that's the key to this market. >> let's get to seema mody on the floor. she has more for us on what is moving this morning, seema. >> that drop of the nifb, small business optimism report, a telling sign of how the gridlock in washington over the health care bill is having an impact on sentiment and how consumers view the economy. taking a look at u.s. markets, we're lower right now after that mixed day we saw on monday keep an eye on the dollar getting a lot of attention this morning, finding support after hitting that ten-month low in june, ahead of fed chair janet yellen's testimony in front of congress tomorrow. economists have been quick to dismiss the notion that the lack of inflation in the united states won't stop the fed from raising rates one more time in 2017 we'll get a read on retail sale this is friday, key economic indicator to watch this week speaking of the fed, president trump expected to nominate fund manager randall corals at the
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federal reserve. writing this morning it's a positive sign for the bigger banks as quarels should support deregulation that move in oil, that midday reversal, output from libya and nigeria continues to get some chatter. oil ministers from those two countries have been invited to attend a meeting on july 24th in russian to discuss production. wti crude lower here india is a net oil importer overnight one of the best emerging markets of 2017 chinese stocks ending lower. marginal gains in europe ahead that have key german inflation number coming out tomorrow you were discussing two main stocks in focus today, snap dipping below its ipo price of $17.
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lockup period approaches, facebook, twitter and linkedin fell an average of 24% in the 30 days ahead of their lockup we can see snap down as much as 4% blue apron lower by over 6%. finally, a series of downgrades putting a few s&p components under pressure lennar, michael kors and schwab. back to you. >> let's check in with rick santelli of the cme group. >> thank you, david. the back half of 2016 after the election, periods of very low volatility very small retracements against the major trend which has been higher sound familiar the sovereign fixed income markets around the globe, especially the bund ten-year are
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demonstrating the same qualities. notice what the top of the range is right around 240 open it up to one week, right around 240 it's pretty compact, all things considered, as one week of ten-year bund deals. most drawing the magic line of resistance right around 60 basis points seven is a good number let's stick with the seven-year chart. it might be especially enlightening to take a bigger view on the foreign exchange moves. look at the dollar/yen, looks good, especially on that seven-year chart there's a lot of dynamics going on, especially considering what's going on in a japanese economy and what isn't going on is maybe more specific let's look at the euro/yen that looks even more aggressive an important trade to monitor, especially considering all the issues we learned at g20, trade agreements that are supposedly
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done member countries haven't really signed yet more of a banner than a document this is very key and, finally, i was just toying around one of the traders left this chart on the system. he left a five-year chart. i opened it up to seven. euro/pound, very interesting getting to some very important areas right around that 89 level. pay attention. this looks like it could be breaking out dave and jim, back to you. >> thank you, rick santelli. we go to jackie deangelis at the commodity desk jackie >> oil prices turned a corner into positive territory, trading around 44.5. this is a bit of a wishy washy trade right now. we need to watch the momentum throughout the day important thing to note, goldman sachs is out with a note talking about oil prices, no signal yet, goldman is saying, for an oil price inflection their price scenarios, $37.50.
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they're sticking to that but raising the possibility that oil could go under $40 a barrel in the short term they're saying as the market tests opec and shale reaction functions. it will be interesting to see how this bounces around. it makes them, in fact, the department of energy number very important. we'll get the api setup for that later this afternoon people watching these numbers closely. as i said, they're looking for trends here to see that the shale players will do something to turn the boat around. they may or may not. back over to you. >> thank you, jackie jackie deangelis for now, hathaway and its $9 billion takeover as the distributor is in the middle of a bidding war, it seems, between berkshire and paul singer's hedge fund here is what he oncor ceo told
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jim cramer on "mad money." >> the berkshire hathaway deal would be great for this company. i just don't know enough about elliott yet. >> we know a good deal about elliott to a certain extent. they may have a significant enough position to have a voice if not a significant one in the approval of the plan that would be needed to take this thing and sell it to berkshire. >> yes, and the bankruptcy court judge, i think, will listen to them $9.3 billion for them. obviously mr. stafford is saying it's not about us. the junior debt that elliott has bought could be worth a substantial amount is it, apparently, worth all that much? do you think this is just a gambit to be able to make it so that debt is paid off more or do
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they want it >> very opportunistic fellows at elliott. what i do wonder is mr. buffett is not one to be toyed with. typically, this is my number take it or leave it. bankruptcy court judge, i believe, does have the obligation to get as much as possible to return to creditors. >> that's my point $9.3 does trump 9. >> another 300,000 bucks. >> i thought elliott was accommodating saying we want to hear what elliott has to say you know paul singer. >> i do. >> rigorous. >> they're rigorous, very aggressive there is, however, another aspect to this, which is the texas regulatory regime, which did not seem particularly happy with other potential buyers. >> they turned down next year and turned down hunt they like buffett very much. >> there's a lot of capital
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behind him, too. >> right and buffett has been involved for a long time too much debt to be ignored. i think elliott doesn't let go so quickly this will be on for -- >> interesting to see if buffett just walks. >> walks away. >> yeah. >> i love this fight on the one hand you've got one of the tough as nails guys in the business, buffett and maybe the toughest guy when it comes to portfolio management in this country, paul singer they do some great -- >> singer doesn't back away from a fight. >> you've interviewed singer. >> i have. >> he has gone after -- >> argentina, he spent 15 years doing something nobody thought possible he had other guys working on it for him. >> samsung, too. buffett doesn't sit there and say ooh, i'm scared of the oracle. >> no, he doesn't. >> this will be great. >> respects him, i hope he does. >> this is going to be great. >> i have my own favorite.
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western digital. >> that's not my reporting they apparently say they're matching on toshiba flash. i don't know, jim. i have to check in on that. >> you're the only guy that has that. >> i have to check in. as you and i both said, such an important story even though it's not on our shores. >> up next, stock trading with jim. "squawk on the street" will be right back on mi came across this housentry with water dripping from the ceiling. you never know when something like this will happen. so let the geico insurance agency help you with homeowners insurance and protect yourself from things like fire, theft, or in this case, water damage.
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inventories tomorrow i thought this was a gutsy upgrade basically saying enough is enough. a lot of these stocks are back to where they were, literally, in the $26 period. >> multiples here and what's appropriate. >> that's a really good point. one of the things that's been lost here is that these companies do have a rate of return they're not all just sitting there losing money the problem, david, the idea that no one is making money is just wrong because they all lower lower lowered it to the point that they can make money. snap i want to reiterate, i feel bad for them i know they have everything. they've got money and they've got lifestyle but i feel bad for them. >> i'm sure that's going to resonate at headquarters today. >> i think they have to rethink
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and say -- i bet they're glum. they're not sitting there, taking selfies and giving high fives. a guy will never do a high five but deserving of it, rob sands of consolation brands. he has the best wines, best beers, best whiskey. he does it the street doesn't give him the respect. we've liked it for more than 120 quarters pepsico, remember the pattern. goes down. people forget, see general mills isn't taking over. what did i do? why did i sell pepsico i forget j & j and pepsico. god, this was fun. i have to go you know what i have to do. >> buy a brioni suit. >> maybe walmart has one i'm a 42 regular. >> he's going to keep looking.
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live at the stock exchange i'm sara eisen with david faber. carl quintanilla is off. down more than a tenth of a percent. financials are getting hit health care is doing well. nasdaq going positive. we'll see if that outperformance holds. we saw that in yesterday's session as well. crude oil helping the mood up 44.48. possible watchdog on the block. president trump nominating a new banking regulator at the fed who is he and what will it mean for wall street? >> plus, in case you haven't heard, it's prime day. deals and steals look inside july sales holiday and what it means for the e-commerce giant. >> snap sinking ipo price since going public they're not alone. we look at that straight ahead first, economic data
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let's get to rick santelli for those numbers. rick >> yes on the may final wholesale trade number down .5 the weakest percentage month over month in one year since last july when it was down six tenths wholesale industry side. it's the best number since december of last year when it was up .8. remember, we do have, i believe, july 28th our first look at second quarter gdp the inventory number here may help that a bit. finally our may read on job readings and turnover, disappointment coming from record numbers over 6,000 job openings that gave up a lot of ground but did hit some lofty all-time historic records for that data series yields, stubbornly in the
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ten-year just below 240. and in bund land, hovering below 60 basis points, sara. we want to pay attention to these big banner type yields it's all yours. >> rick, thank you it is a busy week for marks. fed chair janet yellen set to testify as jp morgan, wells fargo are preparing to report earnings starting friday we're joined by goldman sax u.s. chief strategist david kostin. always nice to see you. >> nice to see you. >> we're about to get going in full is it going to be as good as the first quarter? >> it will not be as good as the first quarter in our forecast. the first quarter you had year over year, earnings growth at 14%. forecast we had for this quarter is around 7% 7% earnings growth that is aided by a tailwind for energy you take away energy for a moment, you look at 4% that
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compares with last quarter at 10%. answer to thought process gave me out this earning season will start on friday and earnest growth will be about 4%. margin is likely to be flat and that's consistent with the market, in my view, that is likely to be kind of at these levels, trending lower to around 2,000 end of the year. >> what are we, 1% away from the record high for s&p? is tech still the earnings leader >> best earnings growth will come from tech, followed by financials with the speculation, having seen the results of c-car, more cash being returned to shareholders in the form of dividends and buy backs that brought to the financial sector. big focus on two areas as a strategist first on top line secular growth, top line revenue growth, largely concentrated in the tech area and on margins, a key
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issue. margins have been flat roughly speaking the last couple of years and a couple of companies likely to increase margins, we could think of deer, semantec 50 basis points. margin expansion this year and next year. market multiple or lower and that's a pretty good upside from that level. >> you're talking about companies whose profit margins from these levels can go up in the context of an overall s&p 500 with margins that are, what, kind of stuck? >> my forecast likely to be climbing around 9.5% to 9.7%, peaking around 9.9 that's your level. dr different companies are operating at different levels. if you look at much bigger margin expansions, 50, 100 basis points that's the story we like. >> real gdp, growing %, gdp
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inflation around 2%, that's the sales growth most are experiencing so top line revenue growth, which is tech or margin expansions, the two ways to get you to better returns in the market. >> you came with a few names there. i heard you say -- >> our analysts. >> so i deal with my goldman analyst colleagues we go through the stocks and meet some of the macro criteria we're looking for. clearly the big stock people like to focus on, simple math there, if revenues are growing 4% association many of those are growing their revenue 16, 18, 20%. top line growth revenue margins that are twice as high that's the story. >> get back to growth stories, always get people's attention. >> if growth is limited --
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>> through cost savings? >> more technology applications. some cases just more efficient management and that's a slow and steady process. some companies have more that opportunity. ours less so. >> you have recently, i think, advised people to buy companies that pay higher taxes versus the s&p 500. >> right. >> that hasn't exactly worked out as the prospects for tax reform look farther and farther away giving up? >> no. the thought process for this is investment horizon depends on your horizon. tactically, seven quarter results in the next couple of weeks, change in growth dividends. look into next year, our forecast, you will get some tax reform or tax cuts and, therefore, companies that are currently paying high tax rates would benefit from a tax reduction. they would get positive earnings revisions as a result of that and that would be a catalyst for those companies. that's really, i think, later this year into next year, would
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have thought -- expecting more activity out of the congress and administration didn't happen this year so far. >> you still expect it do you include retail in those high taxpayers that's a tricky group to nav xw igate. >> what i think about this basically, strategically, is this a group of hedge fund portfolio managers, sector neutral going long, some stocks with high tax rates, selling those with low tax rate companies, a sector neutral way to think about it. that's an approach that would include some of the retail you have retail stocks on both sides that trade. >> how do interest rates come into this mix? bond yields lifting globally may be okay with that as long as it comes along with economic growth getting better. is that the world we're in or do we have to worry about the fed and other central banks getting more hostile >> you have a tapering that
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starts in september. four hikes next year so from a policy point of view, that's more aggressive than the bond market is pricing in. that's a relatively next six months, it's one hike in six months the rate is likely to be not such a big issue ten-year forecast we have is that bond yields are 2.75 at the end of the year. slightly higher from the 2.40 levels we are now. that is more of a headwind for multiple expansion you've got the intersection between slightly better economic growth or economic growth, leads to sales growth. but lower multiple as a result of higher interest rates. >> pitching stock valuations, perhaps? >> in a very narrow channel. >> and you say modestly up to 2.75 on the ten-year, that would feel like a moderate move. >> if you have more inflation, unemployment low, we're anticipating some wage inflation
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pickup so there's certain evidence of inflation that would lead to high rate. >> is that the biggest threat to the market right now, sharply higher rates what could cause a more pronounced correction? >> protectionist measures, tariffs, higher rates would be another issue. that is always the geopolitical questions. those are the three areas we focus on. >> so let's say more movement on the chinese steel, for example, that started more conversations about protectionism, that that would have an impact >> be concerned about inflation. how does that feed through the margins and what does that do for earnings to say nothing of overall economic growth. those are the kind of issues that one would associate typically with some kind of tariff or protectionism. >> we'll see what happens there. david, thank you always good to check in with you, chief u.s. equities strategist at goldman sachs.
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amazon prime day has arrived, kicking off their holiday 12, 13 hours ago more on the deals and what the day means for the e-commerce giant. hi, courtney. >> hi, mike. successfully created a holiday millions around the world are participating in 13 hours, as you said, into third annual prime day le the company tells cnbc, more members are shopping at record levels top sellers are amazon's own echo devices, key device for keeping consumers in its echo system hundreds of thousands of other deals are rolling out over this 30-hour event. some of the most recent discounts and subsequent sellouts include 88% off bluetooth headphones then 84% off crystal necklace and, of course, we have an lncht e.d. camping lantern four-pack everyone needs one of those,
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apparently, 82% off the regular price. those discounts sound enticing carl quist notices a couple of things when he looks at 10 of the top prime deals across several categories first, 40% of the deals are for items that are sold exclusively on amazon. which means you can't price compare. 20% of the deals he's looking at are actually cheaper elsewhere, even after shipping and tax. theremaining 40%, amazon does, in fact, have the lowest price by an average of 18% prime day, of course, is worth a lot to amazon. for both acquiring new prime members and accruing sales am ston says last year's prime day was its biggest day ever analysts estimate it likely landed around 640 million in 2016 analysts are expecting prime day sales to hit between 860 million and $1 billion mike, back over to you. >> not bad for a random day in
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the middle of july courtney, thank you very much. >> that's right. >> appreciate it. >> brick and mortar retailers continuing to get crushed as amazon's prime day does kick off. we're joined by cnn analyst as well as piper jaffries analyst thank you for being here this morning. michael, let's start with you here as we get into prime days we ooh and ahh over how popular and busy it looks like it's going to be amazon has added $125 billion in market value year to date, 90% of analysts recommending it. 1100 and change. my point is, can much new incremental good news come out of prime day that we in the market haven't already built in? >> probably not out of prime day itself i think that's a good point. look at specifically, you know, the thing they're doing with prime day, as you said, they created their own holiday. same time they're steering people to do the activities that they want them to do
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they're discounting the echo devices. they're discounting groceries. these are all things that are driving future growth of total adjustable markets that the company is trying to get more into and future growth initiatives like automative consumption. prime day is about good deals for consumers but it's also about steering consumers to the behaviors that amazon wants you to do. >> so, john, are we not, from amazon's perspective, just front loading sales that probably would happen at some point in subsequent months? is this generally new sticky customers or new business that otherwise would not be picked up by amazon is this. >> yeah. i mean, it's definitely incremental. they may pull forward some sales. but for us, prime day is a lot about the financial impact for the company over the 30 hours of
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sales. it's about growing the prime adoption prime, in our view, will drive the retail business over the long term. we think there's 53 million u.s. prime households right now prime day has actually jump-started prime penetration the last two years in the united states per our data, 5% increase in u.s. prime penetration, prime day helping there, obviously, the holidays as well here is the thing. there's about 60 million remaining residential households that are not prime members our data suggests 30 million of them buy something on amazon every month. prime day, other innovations holidays will help conversion and ultimately we think drive the long runway for further prime subgrowth. >> john, where is the limit? where is the peak period of disruption of the retail industry by amazon can you see that far ahead >> we posted a report at the end of january that said, you know,
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it's very early from an e-commerce disrupter perspective. so, yeah, you look at some of these verticals. what we have said and written about is amazon will be the number one apparel retailer this year in the united states. apparel is about 20% e-commerce penetration. you have consumables, household goods, that's 8 or 9% penetrated grocery is 3% penetrated that's a long way to go. and the drivers of growth for the company are these really big categories that are still, you know, kind of -- have a long way to go from an e-commerce penetration perspective. >> mike, who is the biggest competitor on the e-commerce side walmart with jet.com and if so, what are the e-commerce market shares look like at this point >> yeah. walmart has surprised people, i think. rewind to a couple of years, walmart was really kind of off the radar screen jet certainly helped
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i think walmart is back as the biggest competitor and i would say certain competitors within verticals, you know, if you look at certain areas of furniture or mattresses or auto parts or apparel or other categories where amazon is newer and grocery is certainly one of those. they're trying to, obviously, augment that with the whole foods deal in swregeneral, amazon has a lof bets placed very wide. as i mentioned earlier, that just increases the total adjustable market of an already massive company. >> sara, i would just -- >> go ahead. >> i'm sorry i would just add that we think amazon, across all the different verticals probably is getting, you know, 30%, 40% of every incremental dollar in. so, you know, there are other competitors, clearly but they're the leader by a long -- by a pretty wide margin
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at this point. >> john, i wanted to focus in on one of the data points you had here in your work, which actually was surprising. you think that the echo is in 12% of u.s. households right now. so one in eight households, you think, has an echo at this point? >> yeah. thanks for bringing that up. yeah we started this proprietary data set. 12% penetration, on average, in 2q, versus 11% in the first quarter. obviously, they're very aggressive with echo, the discounting on prime day so, that number should go up and the other things we found was like 85% of echo owners use it at least once a day 60% of users use it multiple times a day and a third do voice-enabled direct purchasing. they have a really wide lead here over google and, obviously, apple came out with their product and i think microsoft is coming out with something. they're well ahead at this point, amazon. it bodes well overall from an
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ecosystem perspective. >> yeah. we were debating that. that number sounded hard to believe, especially because i don't have one mike, i'll ask you about the echo 50% price cut for prime day. the dot drops. those lower prices, do they signal that they're getting ready to release new versions or are just desperate to get into your home and reach a big audience amazon style? >> not necessarily new versions. they're just trying to, as you said, get into the home. this is really about seeding the market and alexa-enabled devices are a trojan horse to getting into living rooms, kitchens and households all over to drive better ordering as well as data collection amazon is getting light years ahead of the competition we talked about walmart earlier. this is something that differentiates the company versus what walmart is doing in
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addition to everything that amazon has related to fulfi fulfillment and logistics and same day and same hour delivery. so it's just part of their way of reaching an escape velocity versus the competitive set. >> all right if i can just -- >> john, final word? >> yeah. if i could just add the 12% penetration number, we do survey 2,500 u.s. customers, it's census weighted. we think it's a pretty firm number. >> we'll hold you to that. i guess we need to get sara one of those. >> happy prime day. >> thanks. >> happy tuesday when we come back, president trump nominating a new banking regulator at the fed we've got all the details. plus, senate republicans getting back to work on their bill to repeal and replace obamacare. is a vote actually in sight? we'll discuss.
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created by the new dodd regulatory reform rule it had been held by -- orreall dan tarullo, former fed governor had been serving as that governor as such, he will also be able to vote on monetary policy. it's one of three open positions at the federal reserve right now. randall quarles is a former private equity executive, who had been involved in buying small and mid-sized companies, investing in them as well as managing what looked like family money as well as other wealth management jobs he did there former treasury official involved with the g7 as well as reforming the financials, fannie mae and freddie mac, a trained lawyer as well as at the carlyle group. he is advocating change to
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dodd/frank, wrote an op-ed in t "the wall street journal" about breaking up big banks and criticizing low interest rates at the federal reserve he said, years of near zero interest rates have led to a rise in speculative positions as all financial institutions find themselves under intense pressure to seek adequate returns. how much that matters now that he's at the federal reserve is raising interest rates is unclear. how much change he alone can effect at the federal reserve. can he propose ideas but the full board of the federal reserve has to vote on changes that he would propose. back to you guys. >> proving actually not so controversial pick to be the first-ever vice chair bank regulator at the fed. >> yeah. >> steve, thank you. mean tile, the senate -- we want to move on to health care possible changes to the health care as the bill continues to
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stall, following their holiday recess for more, we're joined by m.i.t. economist and adviser to the obamacare team as well as mario valino welcome to you both, gentlemen great to have you here mario, you made headlines when you said the senate version of the bill, quote, is heartless. we know it's a work in progress. but if there is work to be done to appeal to the centrists and the republican party to sort of cut back on the steep cuts in medicaid and allocate more money for the opioid crisis would that go far enough in alleviating some of your concerns? >> i really doubt it had is a very bad bill it's going to cost 22 million people their health insuranc for which the government will save about $321 billion. there's an estimate from internal medicine, one patient
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will die for every million patient who loses their insurance -- i'm sorry, 1300 for every million. that means that 268,000 people will die over ten years as a result of this legislation it's wildly unpopular with the american people. >> john thanathan, i would expea you have the same opinion. a big participant in medicare and obamacare. i don't know if we know the specific details of what they're doing to amend it. it is a moving target. >> and much like the house bill, they're trying to move both right and left at the same time. moving left is things like putting money into helping with opioid addiction by the best estimates just to replace the money they would take away for supporting opioid addicts, they would have to put 180 to 220 billion in, not the
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45 billion they want to put in that doesn't account for the fact we only treat 20% of opioid addicts in america today and massive increase in opioid addicts. instead of increasing that path we'll go backwards with this law. other hand, the big thing they're pushing is this cruz amendment from the right, which would essentially split health insurance marks, allowing healthy people to buy skimpy plans at low prices and sticking poor -- sicker people in essentially high-risk pools. trying to have it both ways. and, you know, if the senators are on their toes that won't happen. >> i was going to ask you about that, jonathan you brought it up but didn't answer, why is that a bad idea >> look, at the end of the day, there's one fundamental rule we have to keep in mind 80% of health care spend something done by 0% of the people, who cannot afford to pay
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80% of health care costs that's all about risk sharing, what mr. molina did. that's how insurers make money, risk sharing ted cruz essentially wants to undo the risk sharing we all enjoy. employer sponsored insurance, we joir the risk sharing from our co-workers and those in government insurance enjoy risk sharing from the taxpayer. cruz's amendment would undo that risk sharing, sticking sick people with an unfair share of their health care costs. >> bending the cost curve on health care overall was something that was aimed for with the aca it's not necessarily something that's come up that often. it would seem, at least, in the debates going on in the senate right now. are we actually going to figure out an effective way to start taking costs out of the system >> well, unfortunately, this bill and the previous bill are about who pays for health care the reason health insurance is so expensive is because health
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care could haves are so high in this country and we haven't done enough to address that issue frankly, if i were in the senate, i would scrap this bill. i would convene a bipartisan group and attack the fundamental problem of the high cost of health care. you do that, insurance rates will come down health care -- health insurance becomes more affordable and we don't have this issue. until we attack the root problem, we're going to constantly be revisiting this issue and we're not going to come up with a good solution. >> dr. molina, hasn't medical cost inflation actually moderated, though, in the last several years, whether it was coincident with the aca or just because of overall trends? obviously it's still a big issue. but is that really the core of the problem right now that we have to be debating? >> i think it still is the core problem. health care trends have moderated somewhat if you look at the united states and you compare that with great britain, for example, doctors in great britain get paid half of what doctors in america get
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paid a hospital bed day in the united states could haves four times what it does in england. until we address these fundamental cost issues it's still going to be a problem. we still have the high cost of drugs. and we're seeing a big escalation in pharmaceutical costs. that's something that's on the horizon. we still have a big problem with costs. and deciding whether it's obamacare or some replacement package is not going to solve that problem it's just going to shift -- >> the uk, is that really the model we want to go after? a lot of people would argue the rich just pay for better care and the quality of health care is much lower. the quality of medical health. and the bar for getting tested on basic tests like a colonoscopy is very high. >> i agree with that european nations, their costs are lower. that's the fundamental problem utilization rates are similar across these western nations but it's the unit costs that are driving up the cost of health care and the cost of insurance.
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>> unfortunately, we have to leave it there we'll have you both back on to debate this. i'm sure, because it is still to be continued jonathan grouper, thank you. mario molina, thanks to you as well. >> thank you. let's send it over to sue h herrera with a news update sue? >> thank you president trump sending his con dole ences to the families of those on board the military plane. kc-130 plane is used primarily as a refueling tanker. secretary of state rex tillerson arriving in qatar from kuwait where he hopes to break the deadlock from that country and four arab states that have accused qatar of supporting extremist groups china says it should not be held solely responsible for solving the north korea nuclear tandof
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and accused other countries of shirking their responsibilities. its foreign ministry says beijing is upholding its obligations. and canada's british columbia has declared a state of emergency as more than 200 wildfires raged through that province dozens of buildings have been destroyed and more than 3,000 people have been told to evacuate more than 1800 fire fieffightere battling those fires hot, dry weather in that part of the world is expected to continue, unfortunately. back down to you, david. >> okay, sue i will take it thank you. when we come back, snap and blue apron look at that both below their ipo prices. well below in the case of apron. we'll take a look at the road after going public, straight ahead. [ male announcer ] eligible for medicare?
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state for business, which we'll reveal later on today in the closing bell this is the 11th year we've been doing this exclusive study one of the things that has come out of it, you start to get a sense of the ebbs and flows of the economy and different trends here and there keep that in mind as you look at state number four. texas, the lone star state, comes in fourth this year, with 1,602 out of 2,500 points. texas came in second last year the state is still a powerhouse with america's best workforce and the number one infrastructure but texas finishes 37th for quality of life, crime rates are high air quality is low and with no statewide protections against discrimination, texas is one of the least inclusive states in the nation the texas economy, once the envy of the nation, has ground to a relative halt along with the
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domestic oil industry. the state drops to 25 in the category from number one last year still adding jobs at one of the fastest rates in the haitian but unemployment has ticked above the national average texas has no individual income tax and no corporate tax just a state business franchise tax that tops out at three-quarters of a percent. the top state and local sales tax is 8.25% texas' largest employer is the supermarket chain, largest industry is mining, including oil and gas drilling so, that's a big deal if you've been following top states over the years. texas has never finished below second place until this year and it has a great deal to do with the oil industry, even though the state has been very impressively diversifying away from that major industry it can't get totally away from it as things come back, we'll see if texas can make a comeback next year. texas, down at number four
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if it's not texas that's the top state for business, where am i another one of our diabolical hints, classic sounds. #topstates my twitter handle i is @scottcohntv. top state revealed later today guys >> oh, man. >> classic sounds? >> i don't even know what that means. >> that could be any state i'm going to think about it. >> comes to texas, scott, it's interesting. the state and its governor continue the big play about taking jobs with the very low regulatory regime and tax regime are they still doing that? >> they're doing it -- not as aggressively or as high profile as rick perry used to do it. he kind of made a name for himself doing that texas, what we've found over the years, yes, they have no income tax, no sales tax. but they have high property
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taxes and a lot of other cost issues that came with all the growth so, texas suffered some of those growing pains. texas has been great at setting aside reserves in its budget process but they're having a tough time coming up with a budget and there's also the quality of life issue that's plagued in texas we saw it also with number five, north carolina, states that don't have these state-wide discrimination protections, suffer in our study and -- because that's what business is telling us and so that hurts as well. but the economy was the big issue in texas this year. >> scott, thank you. scott cohn in that mystery state, classic sounds. >> really misled me with the wide open spaces, yesterday, which is dixie chicks, which is texas. keeping an eye on shares of snap down 30% since its first day of
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trading back in march. blue apron below its ipo price bl two weeks ago on the stock price, its ceo matt salzberg. >> we're focused on the long term, quite frankly. the stock price, whether it's up, down, left or right is the beginning of this new chapter in our company's life that we're really excited about. >> mike has been looking into all of this. again, we ask, anomalies or bigger signs of trouble for ipos >> it's not representative of the entire ipo these two, you would have to call, i guess, busted deals. snap, it did have a pretty good pop off that ipo price of 17 it went up into the 24 area for a little while down significantly off of that, as people have reassessed. i do think those two stocks,
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though, do represent one bit of what's going on, the higher profile kind of big expectation, consumer ipos. you already know the brand name. had a little bit of hype in the valuations before they became public they've not been received very hospitablely that's representative of something that's going on, guys. you have consumer ipos that are lower profile. >> canada goose. >> another good consumer example. mule soft not really a consumer company but in the technology area i would also point to the renaissance ipo etf. an index of new ipos after two years ipos get kicked out. relatively fresh kind of basket of recent ipos is up 20% year to date about 25% in the first year. that's not bad it sort of shows you, though, when you have the really -- ipos
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that have been built up a lot before they've become public, i think they have to show right away that they're ready for prime time. >> and so would we expect to see the more technology related ipos >> enterprise software. >> that you have this pipeline of anything with cloud in the name of the business description and all the rest of it, it's going to happen. it's a very interesting setup we have here. companies are almost viewed with some suspicion when they decide to go public it's so easy lately to stay private. they say why do you need the public's money if things are so great? an unusual situation. >> stock price came down and down again and still came out with the offering. >> right pshed it out to the low end of the new range and no was not a good signal. >> no. it's been ugly. >> since we're talking about snap, our parent company, nbc universal, does own a stake in that company taking a look at shares,
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jcpenney on the move edward record, the cfo, is leaving the company today. the stock is actually up 1.25% retail is coming back a little after a very rough day yeery. stdaquk the street" will be right back so we need tablets installed... with the menu app ready to roll. in 12 weeks. yeah. ♪ ♪ the world of fast food is being changed by faster networks. ♪ ♪ data, applications, customer experience. ♪ ♪ which is why comcast business delivers consistent network performance and speed across all your locations. fast connections everywhere. that's how you outmaneuver.
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my guest this morning is peter thanks for being with me this morning. >> good to be here, rick. >> called from brexit to fake trade deals, the curse of the confirmation bias. the reason i urge all our viewers to read it is one of the big things that happen this had g20 was get iting under way was the announcement that the japanese and europeans had cut a trade deal the reality is that they might talk about a trade deal. it's far from a done deal. i want to talk about it in the context of global trade and the cross trades and how they've been moving. particularly the euro/yen. euro doing great against all the currencies, but especially considering the japanese and germans are kind of in the same business, exporting cars how is it going to turn out with this cross trade, with this pending trade agreement? any thoughts, peter? >> that always sort of mucks up a free trade agreement you want free trade at the same
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time you want staple currencies. the companies that win produce the best product in the most efficient way at the lowest cost that would be ideal. of course, that's not reality, real life as countries try to protect their best industries. central banks, unfortunately, are a big influence on the direction of currencies whereas governments will try to maneuver through that through free trade agreements even with the eu and japanese agreement, it's obviously only in concept it could take years before it becomes reality. >> exactly now, let's take it to the next level. if i had to pick two central banks that had the biggest thumbs on the scale, it would be the japanese and the europeans how are their central banking activities that are always going on behind the scene going to impact this trade deal as well it seems pretty ironic that they kt out donald trump and tried to embarrass him with these trade deals when, in essence, aren't
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they trying to do the same thing, protect the home turf >> right at the end of the day that's certainly the case the whole politics of free trade sounds good when a politician sade says it, sounds great on paper. what they actually deliver is obviously much different because of those protections if there's one thing a politician can't necessarily control as opposed to a central banker is where the currency goes that's the constant gain we're in when we have zero interest rates and negative interest rates and quantitative easing. who the heck knows where currencies go in those different scenarios and where global trade goes because of that. >> i got you final thought, peter, we're going to be looking at the first look at second quarter gdp at the end of the month are we going to learn anything is there any momentum in this economy? are we just going along quarter to quarter, a bit below or a bit above 2% and the sustainable growth just isn't here yet what's your final thought? >> it's really stuck it's important this year to
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start to see a little bit better than two we're coming off 1.6 last year the challenge is that growth is mediocre at the same time that monetary policy is tightening. so it's going to make it very difficult to see an acceleration of growth. it's just a we slow down if here and whether we have a second year in a row of a one handle in growth which i think is becoming very likely >> oh, i think so, too always a pleasure to talk to you. >> thanks. >> david, back to you. >> thank you, rick santelli. let's send it over to john fort. get a look at what is coming up on "squawk alley". >> mate be amazon's made up holiday, walmart and best buy are not taking it lying down we'll dig into what has become a retail bonanza today also, the ipo market not doing so hot we're not just talking about snap and blue apron. we're going to take a look at how some of the newer stocks are doing and then finally, another hint in the top state for business and we're going to find out who is number re athe,ll that and more coming up on "squawk alley.
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pepsi co out with an earnings beat this morning on the top and bottom lines they raised the full year forecast on better outlook for currencies >> we had 3% revenue growth, 13% eps growth maybe most encouraging is our balance model of growth and productivity continues to work so we're driving productivity to expand margins and at the same time using the portion of that productivity to invest in innovation you know, we really ramped that up over the last couple of years. we're running about 8.5% of our revenues are coming from products over the last couple -- introduced within the last three years. and that -- those products typically are not big on the
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volume side. they typically are premium oriented as a result, we're getting higher dollars prosecute ounce or higher dollars per pound. and that's why you see a bit of the muted volume growth relative to the revenue growth. >> because that is something that analysts investors have picked out as a weak spot. that is lack of volume growth both on the food and beverage side we also talked to hugh johnston about the amazon-whole foods deal and about what the impact would be on margins and e-commerce sales for his company. listen >> over time, i actually see the move to digital from a consumer perspective as being very favorable to pepsi-co and other impulse products more broadly regarding our customer base, we have a big brick-and-mortar setup of customers. we have a cure play customers. all of these channels seem to be converging anyway. my expectation is from a margin perspective, it will net out about neutral. and it represents opportunities for us to sell our innovation more effectively
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>> neutral margins which is an interesting answer a lot of investors are worried that this is just going to pressure food margins even more with amazon getting more scale and more scope in the grocery business the stock, pepsi he could is down just a bit. you think jim made the right point which was 3% organic revenue growth looks okay it looks a lot better when all the other food companies report. we're just at the beginning of the season and on that note, we get the 52-week highs and lows list every day from our assignment desk the food companies are making new lows by the day. i'm talking general mills, hormel, conagra. we're looking at lows since 2015 >> dr pepper snapple was a standout for years has also broken down. pepsi is giving back some of the outperformance had it against the consumer staples and food and beverage group they built up over the years not necessarily the market saying something bad is going on. >> yeah. but 6% profit growth in 2%
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welcome back tech and energy, the biggest gainers in the sector side so far this morning real estate, telecom and financials the biggest laggers each down .5%. big moves in two biotech names check out arena pharmaceuticals jumping 50% on positive mid stage trial results and amicus up over 25% after the fda
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cleared to submit a new drug application or nda several additions to the all time high list, boeing, comerica and thermofisher watch those names in today's trading. that's ut fit for this hour let's send it downtown back over to you. >> thank you good morning it is 8:00 a.m. at snap headquarters in venice, california 11:00 a.m. here on wall street and "squawk alley" is live ♪ good morning welcome to "squawk alley" here at post nine our own sarah and mike
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