good morning, everybody. welcome to "squawk box" on cnbc. we are live from nasdaq market site in times square take a look at the equity futures. we are looking at the dow futures. s & p futures are relatively flat dow futures up 16 points the s&p 500 and the dow finished at record closes once again. nasdaq up by 8.5 technology stocks are the reason we cited for recent gains. overnight in asia, japan closed for holiday china reported economic growth 6.9% second quarter. that beat expectations factory output surged by 7.6% in june, fastest pace in three months retail sales topped expectations, rising 11% last month. the shanghai composite down

1.4% hang seng was up, and the kospi up in europe, things are relatively flat. dax is down. and the cac is weaker. crude oil prices on a tear this morning it is up again with wti trading. can i say hello to everybody. we haven't been all together awhile, kind of nice >> comfortable >> pair of loafers >> i'm wearing sneakers today. they're more comfortable than loafers. >> i don't feel like you have to do much to look better i can come in. >> sneakers and no socks >> this is like sweatpants, when

seinfeld wears sweatpants, you've given up. let get you to the morning headlines. here's what's going on in corporate news peltz fighting for a board seat at prak tore and gamble. they'll launch a proxy battle. hear about it within moments my expectation is hear about it coming across the sec with a filing in a moment the move would make p and g the largest to face a proxy contest. last week they rejected the request to name mr. pelts a board member he is one of the biggest shareholders, second biggest roughly holding $3.3 billion worth of p and g stock they agree on some steps, cost cutting, management restructuring. isn't seeking breakup of the company thus far in this instance seeking one board seat and mr. pelts suggested that if in fact you want a seat, you wouldn't be

replacing somebody, he would then say add another seat back to the board he is trying to do this in the frie friendliest way. we have seen how a friendly mr. pelts can turn less friendly if numbers don't work out the way they are at the moment, he is very supportive going to talk about amazon it is working on its own messaging app, called any time according to report from aftv news would focus on messaging, voice, video calls and photo sharing, give users ability to apply filters to pictures and videos it is an effort to take on messaging apps like facebook messenger. what's your thought about that, joseph >> did you run into bezos out

there, he looked all muscular, has the high and tight hairstyle. there was a tweet made its way around with a picture from 10, 12, 15 years ago, he looked different. he didn't have a personal trainer back then. his hair is different. and it said i sell books right next to it, there's a picture of him all jacked -- with the sunglasses on, i sell whatever the f i want. i sell books, next to it, i sell whatever but it is amazing. >> he does sell whatever he wants. >> he totally got a trainer or something. >> he looks good >> he looks great. >> he is the richest man in the world. >> i thought he was approaching the richest. now officially >> this morning i got out of the shower, still standing there in a towel. i ordered three things off amazon in the space of 60

seconds. boom, boom, boom >> can we go back. >> the reason i thought that, used to write these stories someday in the future people will be shopping from living rooms in their underwear i was shopping in a towel in 60 seconds in the bathroom because i ran out of shampoo, needed that, realize i need socks for kyle and organic baby food about 4:00 in the morning maybe. >> whose in audio. you have the turtle sound? if i say i got out of the shower and i was just wrapped in a towel, you hear -- they would play that disgusting mating -- but you it's different you don't have that button don't know where it is isn't it labeled let me try it again. i got out of the shower. buck naked thank you. >> let's finish up a little of

the news >> this last story >> just a little bit cue the turtle sound no okay a little of what's going on on the agenda this morning, have it on the list for you. results from nine dow components when 60 companies in the s & p, netflix out, and later this week, bank of america, goldman, sachs, j and j, morgan stanley, american express, microsoft, visa, general electric see if there are earnings calls like jamie dimon's great conversations about what's going on in washington as to the economic data, monthly empire manufacturing survey out today. tomorrow, import prices in home builder survey wednesday, housing starts. thursday look for the philly fed survey. unilever advice with who are

mel to buy reckitt barrens thinks whirlpool could gain 35% they say the stock is a bargain priced at 192. and posting record 10.4% jump in vehicle sales. the rise in part to well timed china suv launch and renewed push in iran big story for me, i'm early on a lot of things. some things i don't want to be early on i'm early on the bacon craze pushes up pork belly prices 80%. you know why there's nothing bacon doesn't go with talking ice cream. >> remember you were upset about bacon and the chinese. >> early america first, anti-globalist shouldn't be cornering the bacon

market. >> who is getting the margin >> i don't know what happens happened it is mostly demand based. a lot of people aren't as worried about fat as they used to be. >> protein diet you're allowed to eat some of that. >> i haven't eaten anything in two weeks. >> looking good. >> it is done wednesday. >> scarsdale. >> you remember, like i say, someone killed that guy. >> talking about the doctor. >> someone said you know what, it's horrible. all of that grapefruit juice crappy toast that low carb toast. i have coffee. the worst is when you have to have fruit for lunch >> almond milk could not have been on the original scarsdale diet >> it wasn't around. when you go off this, there's

like a two week bridge not getting much better and then go back on it supposedly, but you realize i don't always need tote titos with cheese, don't always need these things you can have whenever you want. >> biggest thing i found -- >> your husband is wasting, goes down the drain better watch it in the shower. >> biggest thing is not snacking >> i agree my typical life is grazing there are so many good things. don't try that, look at these pretzels you know what's good, american cheese on a pretzel. have you tried that? >> ever heard of cheese on a pretzel? >> we're going to graze on politics >> this is our own pantry. senate republicans are delaying action on the health care bill as senator john mccain is

recovering from surgery. we have some of the action from the weekend. >> good morning. john mccain having surgery to remove a blood clot over his left eye not clear how long he will be out. it is clear that will effect the timing of the senate health care vote republicans have 52 senators, two senators who are opposed to the measure publicly, that means they don't have room for error whatsoever need john mccain's vote, presuming he would be a yes. they're going to delay things. wait and see how long it takes john mccain to recover from surgery. rand paul, one of two senators who is opposing the bill says that could be bad for long term prospects of the legislation here's what he said. >> i think the longer the bill is out there, the more conservative republicans discover it is not repeal. and everybody will discover it keeps the fundamental flaw of obamaca obamacare. >> meanwhile, conversation

continues about donald trump jr.'s meeting with russian attorney jay sekulow, the president's lawyer was on television over the weekend talking about the meeting. said the president was unaware of the meeting said no specific statute was violated by the meeting. also said if the meeting was such a bad thing, secret service would have prevented it. >> i wonder why the secret service if this was nefarious, why the secret service allowed these people in. the president had secret service protection at that point, that raised a question with me. >> after that, secret service put out a statement saying in fact donald trump jr. did not have secret service protection at the time of that meeting, so they would not have vetted anybody that would have gone to meet with him at trump tower so that's where we stand as the week begins today, the president wants to focus on made in america agenda, having an event on the south lawn, spotlighting products made in all 50 states as the white house continues to roll out theme weeks

this is going to be made in america week >> the other news i read over the weekend was that, in fact, the administration has its act together on its tax plan, more than has been reported thus far. they told us they have, but there's some kept sichl, now we may have it. >> there was criticism when they released a one pager months ago, that was the extent of what the plan was as i have been talking to officials at the white house, they say they're carefully going and vetting all of this on capitol hill before they roll out the official plan. the reason being they don't want to do a repeat of the health care debacle where they couldn't ge the bill passed, they didn't understand who was for which elements of it, who was against. they want to be sure they have all of that buttoned down on capitol hill before they push forward with a tax bill later this year. they say they can get it done by end of the year, we will see if votes are there.

>> great to see you. let's get back to broader markets, hitting up a piece i saw this morning here it is joining us, chief investment strategist at raymond james, and northwestern chief investment strategist the article says stock market poised to ride stellar earnings to more new highs. i think that's partly what we have seen, jeff south, that there are good feelings about this upcoming earnings season and what we have seen,and that's why the markets are trading at new highs almost every day. is this one of the sell the news things, good news about earnings already in the marker? what a run it has been on the first half of the year >> yeah. it has been quite spectacular. two dow theory buy theories. i told the story to brian

sullivan, in the book reminiscence of a stock operator people wanted to know what to do, would ask him what they should do. he would turn to the side and say you know, it is a bull market that's all investors need to know, probably has years left to run. >> he lost all his money and committed suicide, didn't he >> no. >> i thought -- what happened to jessie livermore thought he did >> jessie livermore lost his money and took his life. >> i don't know. i'm looking for a better ending for me and all the viewers that is a great book market advances as far as it can. with as few people believing it as possible. andrew here every day helping

us the train now, how far does it go how far south. washington >> washington is it. >> right now it is not in georgia. you're in south jersey like so many people, you're going to be right sooner or later. you throwing in the towel. tell me what you're doing. you know the greatest thing i saw you tweeted to somebody mad for the piece you wrote. >> yes. >> andrew wrote a 2,000 word article how the market sucked and was going to go down because of trump minute he said that, andrew said you didn't read the article. i said at the end conventional wisdom might be wrong. 2,000 words this will happen, and one sentence maybe this isn't going to happen, thinks he is covering it that does not cover the bases.

using 2,000 words why it is going down, one sentence about conventional wisdom, that doesn't mean you were right. >> that's a longer conversation. >> but i read that the poor guy yelled at him, i guess you didn't read the article. >> only the top of the article said what the conventional, doing what the conventional wisdom, maybe it was wrong that was the purpose of the article. >> were you the guy tweeting him? >> hold on you're mr. frog or whatever the guy's name is? >> no. >> twitter guy called mr. frog or something >> no. i'm not -- >> i am actual squawk. >> i have friends that thought that was me. following that person the whole time. >> at least he tweets occasionally trends

>> good morning. i have had cheese on a pretzel before >> it is good. like a cracker >> it is great >> they make cheddar cheese filled crackers. they make those. those are good so fattening you might be able to have one per day. brent, tell me whether earnings will be good enough to continue this upward momentum i believe so i agree with jeff, i think we have room left to run. i think it takes a recession to knock the u.s. market down i don't see one of those on the horizon any time soon. i think the economic cycle if you look out to have something to recess, you have to have something to excess doesn't appear there's much in excess so i put this economic recovery into context by suggesting that everything that people think will happen from a textbook perspective will eventually happen it takes longer to get there because the scars were so deep,

people we hafd in a restrained way and had policy geared toward making the world safer, some could argue slowed down growth i believe there's room left in the tank for the u.s. economy and u.s. market to continue to move higher. >> made that point last week, if you look at everything at face value, good jobs number but no wage gains wage gains, near term it takes away some worry about profit margins being squeezed as wages start to go up suddenly the ten year looked like it was on the way to 2.5. again after that falls back down at 2:30 low rates, low inflation. jeff, it is hard to look at this stuff if you're a simple ton, you would say things look good, i should buy, if you don't get too complicated. >> yeah. i think people overanalyze and overthink the situation, not

many of us arntd that have seen a secular bull market, last 14, 16 years i think people are would he fully underinvesting >> probably right. number one, were scared to buy during the election. we thought there would be trade wars or whatever then goes up and up, and people can't buy now. that's what they say, i can't buy now, already moved too far >> right one of the biggest questions is how to prepare -- i'm sorry. i was going to say one of the biggest questions is how to prepare for the next downturn. if you look at the aai bullish sentiment survey, we nochd the 32nd week of bulls which is a record back to 1987 when low bullish sentiment is out there and the economy is doing well, you have equity market gains in the next 12 months, expect that to continue. hard to argue the market is cheap. in the short term doesn't make a

lot of difference. >> you should get to a tv, stay where you are. tech analyst, did she say august -- >> increasingly significant chance for pull back in august does think that's the case standing by long term target which is higher from here. >> thank you both. appreciate it. when we come back, a beloved cartoon bear has reportedly been black listed in china. we will tell you why next. it is winnie-the-pooh. and monkey business at the box office weekend movie score card straight ahead "squawk box" will be right back.

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♪ welcome back, everybody. winnie-the-pooh has reportedly been black listed in china reporting the cartoon bear was

blacked out from chinese social media ahead of the country's 19th communist party congress this fall. no official explanation was given, but the ft decided observers that said the crackdown may be related to past comparisons of the president to the fictional bear those comparisons began in 2013 during the chinese leader's visit with president obama a photo of the president next to a picture of winnie-the-pooh, the most censored image of 2015. >> cut out a little. the arms, if you have a bigger picture, the arms are identical, the way they're swinging on both gentlemen. >> look at what joe is holding. >> cover of the fp it shows that. the height difference is sort of the same and the expression. i don't know the legs are in mid step look at the president's right

leg and tigger's right leg it is so close >> the funny thing is the idea of complaining and saying we wanted it blocked, never heard of this until today. >> i know. calls attention to it, now we all know about it. that's sort of like seems minor for a guy of his stature. >> wouldn't pay attention to some of these things. >> right although being on a diet, poo is pudgy, so i can see where -- maybe you don't want to look like pooh. >> you also want to swing and have your entire nation ban the image. >> tigger is thin. lean and mean. and president obama doesn't hate this comparison, tall, thin. >> i'd take it >> you wouldn't mind being -- >> sure. lions, tigers. great story.

and i'm with ann coulter on this >> i wasn't going to say it. >> immediately what i thought of when i saw this,it was delta when you said i don't know if you know who i am, delta, but i better get this fricking seat, or you're going to have hell to pay with my million twitter followers. you did say it >> i did not you tweeted -- >> tell the ann coulter story, tell the sore kin story later. >> i did not threaten anybody. >> i saw your tweets what did you tweet. >> years ago. >> only about a year ago >> years ago they told me to tweet at the service people. i wrote them and said please dm me direct message me. >> the way you said dm me or you're going to have hell to pay. >> i did not say that. >> dm or you're the sorriest mfs. >> i didn't say that said better to keep it as a private matter, dm me.

>> i think you said if you would like to keep it a private matter >> i didn't say if >> i read this, i thought for her to get -- i thought she had more important issues to stand up for this is all about her and about how much money are we talking about. conservative author ann coulter has a bone to pick with delta airlines over the weekend on a flight from laguardia to west palm beach, florida reassigned from aisle to window seat, she railed against them on twitter, calling them the worst in america she took a picture delta said it will refund colter the $30 that she paid for the preferred seat and called tweets about other customers unacceptable and unnecessary. >> she took a picture. someone said this other individual got your more room seat because of -- for a reason.

she took a picture of the poor woman, said this woman was not fat, large, she was not -- there is no reason for her to get it instead of me. you're with her though from your past history. >> there were things she wrote on twitter i thought went too far. if you get an assigned seat and pay the extra for the seat, you should have the seat, and if you don't have the seat, they should give you more than just the money. first of all should give you the money back and move you if that's the case but do it in the nicest way. >> there are times we had seats switched around. >> for the family. >> left a five-year-old in the back i don't know why the other passenger was moved around. >> then they have to try to accommodate you. >> hell has no furry, baby in first class, what did delta do to you that caused this blow up.

>> there was no blow up. they bumped me from the whole flight that's what happened then they said the quickest way to deal with it. >> upgrades for a year >> nothing, very little out of it, a meal voucher or something. coming up. ibm tackling cyber security, launching a new mainframe that enables one click encryption for data and security.

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good morning u.s. equity future up. and s & p up a couple of points. the s & p now, having a look at it there, talking 24.59. >> it was up big last week >> yes say it goes to 24.60 we're getting into significant gains that you probably don't want to miss >> meantime, we had breaking news to bring you this morning

peltz is seeking a board seat at proctor and gamble in an sec filing out this hour trian says they have excessive bureaucracy and cost structure, says it is not seeking to break up the company or replace the ceo, david taylor, not seeking to replace any of the current nine directors trian owns $3 billion of shares. second largest shareholder, makes them the biggest company to face a proxy contest. ibm launching a new mainframe today, believes the new system is a break through in how companies think of data encryption and can protect from cyber threats. joining us, kayla bar low, vice president of cyber security at ibm. thanks for coming in. >> thanks, becky how are you today? >> i am good i know that cyber security is a problem. we're hearing the headlines every day, i didn't realize how bad the numbers were

how bad is it? >> absolutely. if we look at 2015 alone, 300 million records lost and most of which were americans. think about that for a second. we start to lose this data, it is out there, our social security numbers, mother's maiden names, those can't be easily fixed like your credit card what we did with the new ibmz, we added ability to do encryption at line speed this is a 400% increase in encryption this is one of the chips what this has, little thing about the size of postage stamp, has 14.4 miles of wire on it 6.1 billion tran cyst tors think about what you can do. the entire mainframe can process

12 billion transactions a day. put it in context. let's say cyber monday is an example. probably about 30 million transactions processed globally on cyber monday. one of these machines can process 12 billion transactions a day. >> the problem is that all these transactions we do on a daily basis, most aren't enkriptd because it is too complicated? >> that's right. only 4% of transactions are enkriptd the primary reason is not only is the math complicated, but processing time too expensive on traditional x 86 hardware. what this allows us to do, imagine you're a bank or travel company. you can process everything you see and encrypt it all all at speed without performance degradation. >> that means they have to use, lot of companies are on ibm servers, they need to update to the correct server

>> 87% of all credit card transactions today occur -- >> you talk about health care records, americans are concerned about that but look at it and think a lot of transactions that take place for me are in a small doctor's office they're not going to have one of these servers. >> they may not, but where does that record go, to the insurance company and various levels of processing the challenge is that if bad guys get access to that data, then they have access to hundreds of millions of records. this allows them if they get access, it is gibberish, they can't read and process and is useless. at the end of the day, this is about changing economics for the bad guys they're all entrepreneurs. $445 billion industry every year if i make it harder to break into a system, you're going to spend time somewhere else. >> how much does the new server cost

>> these things cost around a half million, at least to get started. and they go up or down, depending on the number of transactions a company may run and their unique configuration they're about the size of a large safe, 6 or 7 feet tall contain 24 of these chips. there's obviously a lot of cooling and -- 24 of these little things. again, look how small. >> does it come in that tan color or can you get it in gray or -- >> they're more gray one color. >> i think they're one color not a lot of demand for fancy colors. >> i always ask that question. >> what color do you want it >> i like some selection >> what i was getting to, when you talk about the numbers you threw around, they're just words and i don't think we understand what 12 billion means on something that size. come back to machine learning and give it time, 5, 10, 15, 20

years, starting to wonder when you have that type of computing power, when you actually have computers doing things that we can't fathom we won't be involved with thinking up the new stuff, the computers that we originally made will actually be designing things we have no conception of. it is not that far off >> it is not the thing to keep in mind, as more data moves to the cloud, what powers that cloud what will ensure that everything you put in that cloud is inside a safe that bad guys can't get >> gray colored servers. >> that will solve that. >> kill you to make a tan one? >> we will take a look maybe paint one for you. >> blue. >> we like blue. >> that's nice you said make them gray when you were ibm when you made them blue didn't that occur to anyone?

>> nice colored gray >> muted gray. >> what's interesting, when you open this up inside are all of the electronics. one of the things we are worried about, things like insider traps. if you reach in to touch that process, you don't get electrocuted it breaks the server, throws out the keys, makes it useless you have to go back. >> nobody can hack into it >> you cannot. if you physically try to get into this, like insider threat, it will toss its keys and becomes a giant brick. >> that's something, like you guys have run into problems where people on the inside tried to hack things. >> our job isn't so much to think about problems we see today, what are the problems we may see in the future, make sure we can prevent all those >> thank you for sharing with us today. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> stuck inside the server see the guy stuck inside the atm? >> yes great story.

>> stuck inside an atm on the receipt, kept sending receipts, saying help me, i'm stuck inside, they would laugh finally someone said someone is stuck. was it a maintenance guy or thief? >> i didn't hear the story. >> maintenance guy kept sending out receipts. >> got him out. >> yeah. it was a story last week it is one of those and nobody got hurt stories >> not getting stuck with a tan one. blue might be the way to go. trying to decide on royal blue, light blue >> years ago wrote a story why computers are that color. >> you did >> back in '95 i am getting old there was a pan tone color that doesn't have after image you look at a screen and look away, certain colors track with you. but that sort of tan taupe color

doesn't come with you. doesn't move with you. >> there are laws in countries, germany has restrictions on what color things can be in the data center, no idea why. >> all regulations. as we were speaking, blackrock is out with numbers. the asset manager earned 5.24 a share for the second quarter, below the consensus estimate of $5.40. revenue was below forecast the ceo larry fink says significant cash remains on the sidelines, but that investors have begun to put more cash to work so far replacing people with machines hasn't helped black rock we'll see. >> not a big replacement >> starts like that, slowly it happens. elam musk says all of us are

going to be replaced by artificial intelligence. >> bill gates shares some of his concerns coming up when we return, the political effect on the markets. joined by roger altman and then senator more os oh will be here. and dean of the columbia business school. and served as adviser to george w. bush. stay tuned

commercial real estate company cbre out with annual tech trends report, showing where the biggest tech job candidates are found, where companies are moving to hire them. according to the report, tech job creation grew faster than the prior two years. tech companies represent 20% of all leases signed for office space in the u.s. today, up from 11% in 2011. joining us to breakdown some of the results, spencer levy, head

of research for the americas a fascinating report we think of silicon valley as the tech. center of the world. you're showing lot of other places people are getting money and opening offices. >> san francisco and traditional tech areas are strong. we are seeing tech demand is so strong, companies have to move out of traditional areas into smaller markets, not just here in the united states, also seeing canada and toronto and vancouver. >> how expensive it is to do business in silicon valley. >> less than you think from the following sense. the key limiting factor is concentrations of highly skilled employees. people are willing to pay for that yes, cost is clearly a factor, people pay up into the markets that have concentrations, many of them are in silicon valley or in universities. >> can we talk about toronto,

vancouver phenomenon, which is to say so many silicon valley companies set up offices there in part to take advantage of talent if you will, immigrants that are not given a green card to work in the u.s. and as a result are sending u.s. employees up there in terms of trying to get the culture and everything together. >> certainly immigration is a part of it, canada's immigration laws are somewhat more liberal than the united states, and they have a somewhat higher percentage of population in the tech industries because of it. there's another factor that drives people to canada, that's the weakness, relative weakness of the canadian dollar, 75 cents on the dollar to the u.s. dollar, makes cost of operation and availability of labor together make them attractive choices. >> showing three other cities worth talking about, indianapolis, pittsburgh, detroit. these are cities that historically were hard hit and not thought of as necessarily tech centers, but seem to be on the make

>> for sure. i was in pittsburgh yesterday driving from the airport, from downtown it is tech company after tech company or bio farm a company after another. it is not hard to see why, not just cost in the case of pittsburgh, it is carnegie mellon, pitt, graduating a high number of tech employees or tech graduates, and that's driving people to pittsburgh a low cost of living with that makes them very attractive detroit and indianapolis have similar characteristics of having great education complex, and low cost of living, making them attractive choices not only to hire but places for people to live. >> spencer, if you look at square footage costs, say you want to open an office in one of the three cities relative to doing it on sand hill road, what's the distinction >> i think the most expensive places are clearly in san francisco and new york but looking at just the cost of occupancy, that's substantially

lower in those markets could be looking at cost of occupancy in pittsburgh versus san francisco and cost of labor on top of that might be also a third less than you would see in san francisco or new york. so overall occupancy costs could be 33% below -- >> and final question. is it the big companies, the facebooks and googled that open outposts in these cities or straight up new startups starting in these cities >> the short answer is both. i would suggest any city looking to grow with some of the large, terrific tech companies you mentioned also needs to put aside space for innovation space for smaller companies. you see the combination as the right answer. >> great to see you. fascinating stuff. >> thank you when we come back, netflix is set to report quarterly results after closing bell we will tell you what to expect right after the break. and right now, a quick check of what's happening in the european markets things are mixed today, although you can see that the ftse picked

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welcome back to "squawk box" this morning the online streaming giant netflix set to reveal quarterly results right after the close today. investors going to be taking a closer look at the company's subscriber growth as competition continues to build from amazon and hulu joining us right now to tell us what to watch ahead of that report, senior media and entertainment equity analyst at cfra research. your head line, sir, what do you think we're going to see >> sure. first thing is to watch for the subscriber growth which investors are very interested in hearing about. so the guidance suggests acceleration this quarter. we slow down last quarter. second thing is i think the international expansion -- >> that's the whole story. >> exactly last quarter we started first time profits and international segment. this quarter they got into a modest loss. but at one point i think it's going to be how they're getting traction in some of the most recently launched markets. and lastly i might add cash burn is always something to watch >> so i was going to ask you, do

you care about cash burn do you care about how much they're spending on content these days or do you say to yourself they have so many emmy nominations that came out last week, we'll take it and use that as market. put that in the marketing budget >> you know. i think that you know, you always care about content. right. you know, they're spending a lot. that's the given talking about the return investment, he can justify that in terms of the traction that they're getting. you talk about emmys, you see how they're closing ground on hbo. i think investors are starting to get a sense that netflix is becoming more disciplined in terms of their contept you've seen them pull the plug on shows that are not working. >> right >> overall i think that much of the content remains sell voted you can justify it, you know, the traction they're getting in original content, in the marketing related to that, completely emmy nomination -- >> how important is this to make sure so many other places are getting content these days how important is it to still be

[ inaudible ] >> becky i think that it's getting a lot more difficult to break through. so it's not just, you know, netflix. amazon, google, everyone is ratcheting up their content spending and we're seeing that continuing to grow. so i think to the extent that content and selected content is important for branding, i think it's going to help to distinguish and differentiate, you know, these services and i think we see the race now shaping up between the so-called haves and the have-nots, and content is going to be the main differentiator think about the haves, the leading streaming services over the top, second tier, you know, cbs, showtime, hbo, and then you've got all the niche players that are going to, at some point, to congregate over, you know, around what content availability -- >> so reed hastings, and i think he was joking but he really shouldn't have been, said his biggest competition is sleep remember that comment? >> i do. >> that's who we're competing against. do you look at amazon as the single biggest competitor? or is it the traditional players, the hbos of the world

and where is hulu or something like that sitting here >> i think, you know, the major players are not only competing against themselves head-to-head increasingly but also against other forms of enterta entertainment out there. so don't forget that, you know, pay tv, traditionally, is still by and large the largest platform for television viewing out there. >> right >> that remains a viable competitor but overall i think you're going to see the competition >> yes or no you want them to clean up the password situation? so many kids 18 to 24 are now using each other's pass words on these services good thing or bad thing? maybe it's just great marketing. >> password sharing is something the company has swept under the rug. i believe it's become more and more of an issue now that the company is kind of reaching that tipping point. >> right >> in terms of the international versus method. that could be more of an issue in an international market >> great to see you. we'll look forward to those numbers later this afternoon

>> thanks, andrew. >> coming up, markets in focus we're going to talk technicals with katie stockton and later the prospects for health care reform in the senate senator john barrasso will join us at 8:00 a.m. eastern. stay tuned at fidelity, trades are now just $4.95. we cut the price of trades to give investors even more value. and at $4.95, you can trade with a clear advantage. fidelity, where smarter investors will always be.

wall street looks to kick off a new week with the dow and the s&p sitting at all-time highs. we will talk technicals and set up the trading day straight ahead. trade with china the first 100 days of talk is in the books. a look at where the u.s. stands is coming up and the uphill climb for automakers when it comes to self-driving cars. why consumers say they don't trust the big three when it comes to a.i. development. the second hour of "squawk box" begins right now

live from the beating heart of business, new york city, this is "squawk box." good morning welcome back to "squawk box" right here on nbc. we're live at the nasdaq marketsite in times square i'm andrew ross sorkin along with becky quick and joe kernen. take a quick look at the futures this morning, after weekend away dow looks like it would open up higher about 33 points higher. s&p 500 would open up about two points higher and the nasdaq would open 17 points higher. here's the headlines right now we're watching shares of asset manager blackrock. it came in below estimates with quarterly profit of 5.24 dollars per share but ceo larry fink says cash is starting to return from the seedlines widely watched earnings report is set for after the close today when netflix comes out with its quarterly numbers. the company expects to report profit of 16 cents per share on revenues of nearly $2.8 billion. investors also going to be carefully watching subscriber

growth numbers just one economic report on today's calendar, with the new york fed out with its latest empire state manufacturing index. at 8:30 we'll bring you those numbers. later in the week a number of key economic reports including housing starts, we get jobless claims, the fed index and the index of leading economic indicators and then png to talk about a little later because nelson peltz ran a contest to get on that board. >> and other stocks to watch this morning, include amazon, reportedly working on its own messaging app called anytime according to a report from a.s. tv news where this was generated it would focus on messaging, voice and video calls, and photo sharing, and would give users the ability to apply filters, to pictures, and videos the move comes in an effort to take on messaging apps like the one on facebook messenger or

whatsapp and barron thinks that whirlpool could gain 35% next year they think the stock is a bargain despite gaining about 90% since the end of 2012. and as i just mentioned investor nelson peltz mounting a fight for a board seat at procter & gamble launching that proxy battle to jump-start p&g's lackluster sales growth it would make them the largest company to ever face a proxy fate just last week they rejected trian's request to name mr. put to the board it's roughly 3.3 billion worth of stock nelson peltz will join squawk on the street for a cnbc exclusive at 9:45 eastern time the white house is reportedly moving forward with tax reform axios says that the trump administration will start pitching its new tax plan as soon as next month the administration hopes to get a bill finalized after labor day. sources say that the president will start building nationwide support for a tax plan by

barnstorming the midwest states that he won in november. a lot more coming up on the washington agenda and what it means for business that's straight ahead with ever core chairman and founder roger altman meanwhile, manning a make cover for epcot. among the changes a biggest presence in the park for disney's franchise characters. which is kind of interesting because that's not what you think of with epcot, which is also getting some new attractions, including guardians of the galaxy roller coaster, and a ratatouille themed ride. the company made the announcement at the expo in anaheim. it's an effort to attract younger fans epcot, by the way, is twice the size of the magic kingdom but gets far fewer visitors. >> there's not very many rides there. there's a lot of food and drinking there >> the world, all the different -- >> go to paris, go to china, go to mexico, italy >> right disney also announced it would had a tron themed roller coaster at the magic ding com. shares of disney year-to-date up

less than 1% lagging most of the dow. other dow components, and lagging most the major averages. there's nothing worse than -- epcot was kind of a future world. remember, like 25 years ago. >> and now -- >> now we are in the future and the future world looks like it's really -- >> dated >> dated and we need -- >> epcot has some issues with that especially back at the back. you go through the one that walt disney loved so much, the ride about the future where you kind of go around and they talk to you, it's really hilarious when you get to watch what's supposed to be in the future. >> right that car ride was cool that you go on it there? i think it was -- >> oh. >> very cool and also the one where you're in the like seat, and you're flying over landscapes. >> california or something -- it's called soaring. flies over california. >> and kind of even get, you know, go down, you go over the end of a cliff and you go oh

you sort of, that's how you feel so it was cool >> also, let's take a look at what happened at the weekend box office war for the planet of the apes topped the box office this weekend. the third film brought in $56 million in north american ticket sales. that's according tocom score also, spider-man homecoming dropped to second place. it brought in about $45 million. >> it doesn't get old. >> superheroes >> no, apes taking over, you know, running things >> is it going to be the apes that take over for the computers? your call. >> good point. good point probably i would predict probably the computers quickly evolving into -- >> because of genetic engineering, right >> that's possible gmo. last night's season premiere of "game of thrones." they just call it got had social media buzzing. fans erupting in anger when both

of hbo's livestreaming services crashed during the season premiere >> oh, my goodness >> this is the second year in a row that the services went down as mlt attempted to tune in. the service was down in both the u.s. and latin america until about halfway through the episode. it's not clear exactly how many viewers were affected at this point. by the glitch. too late i missed the last two seasons. >> so you weren't aware that the servers crashed. >> i will just say one thing i was telling you about now in a period of watching these movies because i'm on a diet, there's nothing i can drink, so we watch this young victoria and there was an actress in it 1993, circe. lena petty from game of thrones 20 years ago before -- >> i didn't even think she was old enough >> 23 years ago. or maybe it wasn't 1993. might have been a later one. because i watched two of these period young victoria and some other.

remains of the day which almost won eight academy awards but yeah, lena heady a young -- who is that i know her i know her >> figured it out. >> you look at me like a blank look you're not a game of thrones >> you know what i only watched the first couple of game of thrones and then my wife got ahead -- we were trying to do it together. and then, i don't know where i went, but somehow she -- >> -- two, three or four -- >> and she just somehow -- >> you haven't seen any of it? >> she got so far ahead and i could never scotch her and then -- i've been behind the whole time >> have you seen -- >> i need to >> i watched the entire first season and then -- >> -- get his head cut off in the first season >> i saw that. >> i didn't get there. don't, don't -- no i'm going to get there. i need, you know -- >> kids were watching. >> ruined the entire -- >> did -- a couple of the kids were watching. >> i don't know what you're talking about. >> all right

>> sean beam -- >> all right i'm going to do this so that you don't hear anything else from him spoilers on this week's wall street agenda, we're going to get results from nine dow components, and more than 60 companies in the sfund netflix as we told you is out after the close today and later this week we'll be hearing from bank of america, goldman sachs, johnson & johnson, ibm, morgan stanley, american express, microsoft, visa and general electric in the meantime let's take a technical look at where the markets stand right now. joining us is katie stockton, chief technical strategist at bcig thanks for being here. just so people know, you do have a pretty bullish outlook on the markets still, even though we continue to see the s&p 500 rise, you're at 2640 for your intermediate goal? >> that's right. and it's actually why i'm bullish. because it keeps working, right? there's good momentum behind the market we see breakout after breakout, the consolidation that characterized the s&p 500 for

several weeks has now been resolved to the upside so that yields a shorter-term target of about 2510, thereabouts and that's within the framework of the broader 2640 target. >> what is short-term and what is intermediate-term when we talk about this 2640 in intear media-term is that the end of the year? >> it depends who you talk to. to me short-term is days to weeks and intermediate term is weeks to months. >> we have seen, as you mentioned, this broad gain, not just the s&p 500, this was the dow just sitting at a record level. the russell 2,000. the transports, the dow transports are there and we've seen it globally, as well. >> it really has been broad based. i think that's an important takeaway about it. we've seen lots of leadership behind technology, which was weathered very, very well. lots of momentum, obviously given way to improved momentum with the oversold balance and the likes of the f.a.n.g. stocks so i think that's as well to follow through over the short and also over the intermediate-term. >> people get worried when we get into the summer.

volatility's been incredibly low but you do say that the chances of volatility coming back really rise as you get into august. and you wouldn't be surprised by a bigger pullback. >> usually it happens when i'm on vacation. so that's why i think -- >> when are you going on vacation >> mid august. get ready, right >> do all technicians care about dow theory or is it depend on the technician >> as a technician i don't care that much on it. >> how do you decide -- so the transports, someone on earlier said there were a couple of dow theories, breakouts last week that are significant in terms of extending the bull you don't -- that's not -- >> i don't think so. also the transports have really gained relative strength so if anything that's a bullish -- >> that's what i mean. they broke out in a bullish way. but you don't think -- >> the confirming indicator at this stage >> but not as significant as like i dow theorist. >> i don't usually use divergences in my work because they don't tend to be great timing devices but i put them in the good to know camp, especially with the tenets of that theory, really

acting change with the economy >> yeah, exactly >> in terms of a major pullback what are you talking about >> usually i'm in the 3% to 5% range. and it depends where support is at the time we're looking for that pullback. right now support for the s&p 500 is around 2400 that's the previous breakout point. if we do see a follow through which the breakout last week would suggest, then we'll put that about 2450 which would be again sort of that previous area of resistance. >> for anybody thinking, should we buy -- in every time he's been on for the last year, because the 5% pullback is not going to be anywhere near where we were when you were on a year ago. >> it reminds me -- >> 10% above where they were worried about it in the first place. >> in 2013, if you remember that, the pullbacks were very shallow and short lived. had you waited for that 5%, we probably wouldn't have gotten your opportunity so i think you wanted to stay with the momentum indicators, and try to hire. >> if we see a pullback that is greater than 3% to 5%, let's say

7%, 8%, 9% pullback, do you reassess everything at that time as you're saying, look, we hit these new highs and that makes you remain bullish if we start to pullback bigger than you had expected, would that make you reassess >> it's constantly being reassessed for me. i look at the markets from a bottom-up perspective as well. with that if i start to see a lot of break joins, meaning stocks taking down the 50-day moving averages or support levels, that's when i get nervous, because that mean that that breadth or the market participation isn't there. but as long as it's really limited to maybe one leadership group for example that's driving that pullback, then i think the market can usually survive that. >> what about the ten year 2.30 again under or back up >> i think it's going higher yields >> yields will go higher >> right a bit of a consistent view on that in that there's some good support for the 10-year around 2.13 and resistance is around 2.65. so i'm looking for about 2.65 in yields >> it could go back down to

2:10 >> i don't think it will that is the part around 2.13 >> okay. i thought you meant 2.30 so it could go below 2.30 again but not likely >> i mean, it could obviously do anything it depends on how the operator is set up right now it looks higher to me >> katie, want to thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you good to be here. >> when we return, former deputy treasury secretary ever core founder roger altman is going to join us. and china trade talks hitting the 100 day mark a report card on that progress and look at the telecom sector which had its toughest, the worst performing sector of the year find out why and whether or not those stocks are perhaps a buy right now. stay tuned you're watching "squawk box" right here on cnbc. for your heart... your joints... or your digestion... so why wouldn't you take something for the most important part of you... your brain. with an ingredient originally found in jellyfish,

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welcome back to "squawk box" this morning majority leader mitch mcconnell postponing a vote on the gop's latest obamacare replacement bill after senator john mccain had unscheduled scourgery over the weekend. eamon javers joins us with more on the bill, and the timing of everything eamon? >> yeah, good morning, andrew. the timing of everything, as you say, is unclear due to that surgery for john mccain over the weekend. he had a blood clot removed from above his left eye not exactly clear when he'll be able to be back in business. and because the margin is so tight, republican leadership has postponed the vote for now

more or less indefinitely until they can get a full complement of senators in there to vote they have two senators on the republican side who've indicated they're opposed to the bill because they have 52 senators overall. that doesn't leave them any margin for error at all. here's how susan collins describes the handicapping here. she's one of the senators who opposes the bill she said ultimately it's going to be a very, very tight squeeze. >> they have eight to ten republican senators who have serious concerns about this bill and so at the end of the day, i don't know whether we'll pass. >> meanwhile the president tweeting some grievances about media coverage over the russia situation over the weekend jay secokulow, his attorney wasn television over the weekend and said ultimately what happened with the done jr. meeting that was revealed last week wasn't illegal. >> the meeting and what took place at the meeting, based on

all the information that you just said, is not a violation of any law, statute or code >> so the white house today wants to focus on made in america week they have a theme week coming up the president's going to be reviewing products made in all 50 states at the white house on the south lawn later today here in washington. they had these theme weeks in the past they haven't been able to necessarily focus all of the attention on the agenda that they want to focus on, but clearly this is a white house that wants to put a flag in the ground here in terms of the agenda, talking about issues they want to talk about, the president very much frustrated that the russia story continues to dominate the headlines. >> and reading that piece and fred barnes, republicans aren't team players gop senators who defect from obamacare repeal will hurt themselves, their parties, and the country. and you hear that -- >> that's what the president's been tweeting. the president's saying i'm sitting here in the white house with a pen ready to sign it. you do hear some frustration from republicans that the president, you know, he was in

paris last week. >> yep >> a ivanka trump was out west, along with her husband you know, the key players here haven't been really out there mounting the full-court press to defend this effort and to push it across the finish line so you wonder whether the white house could have done more here to push for this >> i don't know what to think. you know, huff post is panicking a little bit they're like, it's been a week and there's only two, and nobody else has come out and said they're not going to do it so they're panicked. and it's been a whole week of pressure where you haven't had that -- there's only got to be one more and it hasn't happened. so i don't know. >> you heard susan collins there in that sound bite say -- >> well, she's -- >> and she's out but she said eight to ten oppose it or are inclined to oppose it but you just don't know whether that's real until they actually come down to vote. >> right, exactly. cornyn, you know, is the same kind -- you know, sort of out with the same type of warnings about, you know, you break -- i

have seen a lot of people eamon say, boy, you watch the democrats when they have something they want to do. they -- they all stick together like glue. and think about if someone with obamacare, they couldn't afford to lose a single vote either, back then, remember, ted kennedy and scott brown and all that stuff. >> yeah. it was really -- >> they would -- if they go all a bus together in a cliff, they'd still -- they'd stick together even if that was going to happen. republicans not so much, which makes you wonder about -- about the difference between the two parties that way they know how to fight on that side they really do. they know how to stick together. republicans are like, you know, i went that way. and it's not -- >> well, and also, you know, i think the interesting difference that we've seen over the decades is that there are no democrats who are going to support this, right? it used to be that both parties had some crossover voters. there were democrats who would vote with the republicans, there were republicans who were moderate, northeast republicans who would vote with democrats,

and over time that has simply eroded the parties have become more and more purely ideological, and so when you're trying to pass a bill like this right now, with 52 republicans, there's not a single democrat you can pick off. in the old days, when i first came to washington, you could sort of plan on scooping up a handful of the opposition party, and then you could lose some of yours, and you build a coalition. nowadays it just doesn't work that way >> still amazing how much it matters how these decisions affect your chances for re-election. you know what i mean that's what has been -- brass tacks, that's what it comes down to >> that's exactly what it comes down to. and if you're a republican -- >> why why do these people want to be senators so badly? they get good tables at restaurants? what's so great about staying at -- wouldn't it be better to do something you believed in, and if you don't, damn the torpedoes, come what may and if i don't get re-elected i'll go do what i used to do >> unless you feel like i'm here to represent my constituents and my constituency does not want me

to vote for this >> that's what they fall back on >> a lot of them can't go back and do what they used to do because they've always been politicians. a lot of them don't have any other career to fall back on this has been a lifelong thing for a lot of these -- >> the public view of this has changed pretty radically, and i think every one of these senators is sitting there trying to figure out what their constituency thinks and what they feel like they can actually support and what they can't. >> well that's right the question is whether the consequences of voting for it are worse for them than the consequences of voting against it >> yeah, but it's still about, you know -- >> obamacare repeal happens and then you see all these negative headlines and people losing their health care, in those states, do those senators want to be carrying those headlines into a re-election campaign? that's a consideration the other consideration is, if we don't do the thing that we promised our political base, how is that going to be for us in re-election -- >> for something and then public attitudes seem to change based on polls, which we know about anyway, then i don't know, are

they going to fall back on that -- >> but they're also in the meantime going home to their districts and hearing from people -- >> yeah, the plan to go in there and scream at them all right, scream at roger joining us now roger altman, evercore senior chairman and founder, also former deputy secretary under president clinton. been awhile roger. how are you? good to see you. >> good morning. >> so, let's talk, since you're a, you know, you know all about interest rates, and the fed, and everything else, are you surprised at 4% unemployment or whatever, with no inflation? have you efsh seen an economic back drop like this? and is it demographics or globalism that makes it so strange right now, that there's all these cross currents >> it's very rare. but i think what the data is masking is the degree to which so many of the jobs being created are paying less than the jobs they replaced and that's one reason, although there were many, that inflation is so weak

but if you really think about that, it's also a reason why we've seen such an upsurge of populism, and such anger among voters, because so many americans, the majority of americans, are seeing wages and incomes that are lower than their parents did. so at one level, labor markets are healthy in terms of the actual number of jobs. but at another level, in terms of wages and income, they aren't >> you know, roger, we alluded to this earlier, that long-term, people warn about stagnant wages for the middle of the population, and income inequality can eventually have dire consequences for a society. but, near-term, a lot of people worried about profit margins peaking. because of wage gains eventually eating into profit margins i mean, companies -- >> except that wage gains -- wage gains just aren't -- aren't

strong >> so, but the margins can remain, then, and all the doomsayers, the profit margins had peaked and we're now going to start coming down, that may not happen we may continue to see great profit margins so the markets might continue to go higher, even with no wage gains. no >> well, it may be it may be, joe, that the share of gdp going to capital as compared to labor ticks down a little bit but it's close to record highs and it's just a fact, wage gains are very modest. yes, average hourly earnings are ticking up at about 2.4% annual rate over the past year. and that's good. but if you look at things like real median household income, or real wages per capita, they are down from the levels of 15 and 20 years ago and that's why so many americans are having a hard time making ends meet. when you look at that fed survey of consumer finances, and you

see that 40% of americans could not meet a $400 emergency, that really tells you something about the financial conditions of the american household >> yeah, it's scary. roger, do you think the fed has things under control in terms of finally unwinding? do you think they're going to do this in a clean way that doesn't disrupt anything >> i would never seen an experiment like the one that's coming up presumably this fall when the fed starts to actually sell down its $4 trillion surplus holdings of treasury and mortgage and other securities. we've never seen an experiment like that. it's, to me, a fantastic high wire act as to whether the fed can do that, and ultimately later the european central bank can do that, without disturbing the structure of interest rates and yet. >> right >> i don't think anybody knows the answer to that but i think there's a good reason to be concerned about it.

>> roger, real quick, when ceos talk to you about what's going on in the markets relative to the economy and what's going on in their own business right now, do you say, look, there's so much liquidity out there you've got to still ride the tiger or do you say the fundamentals don't make sense right now >> well, andrew, the fundamentals are decent. i mean, if you look at, for example, janet yellen said at the end of last week that in terms of household spending, and in terms of business investment, to name two things she mentioned the fundamentals are good and the fundamentals on growth itself not terribly exciting, give or take 2%. but very steady. and the prospect of that continuing for a long time is pretty good. so, the fundamentals are pretty good, business confidence reasonably good. and that's one reason why you see stock prices high, and transaction levels pretty high >> thanks, roger >> thanks, roger we'll see you again soon don't be a stranger. >> when we come back we're going to talk china the first 100 days of trade we'll talk about that and much more "squawk" will be right back. 're .

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good morning, welcome back to "squawk box" right here on cnbc we're live at the nasdaq marketsite in times square among the stories front and center at this hour, citigroup set to unveil changes to its high end prestige credit card. "wall street journal" saying citi will raise the sign-up bonus for the card but raise the amount customers must spend to earn that bonus. high end cards offer generous travel bonuses have become an increasingly competitive part of the credit card market

of course, some of the deal with the platinum card and jason morgan said speaking of the journal, dow jones hit by a data breach, 2.2 million subscribers to "the wall street journal" and other services had some of their personal information exposed in early june however dow jones said it immediately remedied that situation and says it has no reason to believe any of the information was stolen and today is the day brexit talks begin in brussels. the representatives and their british counterparts begin to discuss terms for britain's eventual exit from the european union. we'll be watching that one closely. >> the 100 day mile marker in trade talks between the u.s. and china has been reached and kayla tausche has a report card. and status update on the progress i -- i confess i didn't realize that it was 100 days kayla, you have no life. you were following this. how did you know that? someone tell you that or you've

been counting down >> joe at this expanded meeting in mar-a-lago in april when they announced a specific 100-day plan it was pretty easy at that time to look ahead on the calendar and say where exactly does that land then when they published the actual nuts and bolts of what they were calling the early harvest of the talks in early may it said specifically a lot of these things were going to have to come to bear before july 16th, 2017 that's when the two leading economies were trying to have completed a whole slew of the items. most of them were in the works for years already. among the items we saw fresh movement in the face of the agreement, first u.s. companies began last week exporting beef to china and then on poultry trade the u.s. is seeking comments on a new plan to pave the way to allowing cooked chicken imports from china it's less clear how a may meeting of china's biosafety council that was scheduled as part of this agreement turned out. the group was supposed to weigh eight product applications from

u.s. companies but we still are not exactly sure where that stands exports of liquefied natural gas to china from the u.s., which were already taking place, those have continued as part of this deal now, the focus of items concern u.s. access to china's financial services industries to underwrite bonds, settle trade, and begin licensing reviews for electronic payment processes firms have had access to chinese markets for years and it's a positive sign china would want to begin these processes but it could be years before they do have that access the biggest trade action that we could see this week, though, isn't on the list. it is impending u.s. action against steel dumping. commerce secretary wilbur ross last week briefed lawmakers on the administration's efforts which could come out as i just mentioned this week. the president told reporters on his way home from paris that he is looking at paris and potential quotas on steel but it didn't sound from that transcript like he had made up

his mind yet >> all right, kayla, thank you very much. it's been an issue we've been watching very closely. we're going to talk more about it right now for more on this and what it means let's bring in john rutledge, chief investment officer with global consulting firm sapanod and gordon chang is a columnist and author of the coming collapse of china gentlemen, thank you both for being here first up let's talk a little bit about this 100 days. let's talk about what this means and john, let's ask you first. we have been looking for some concrete things to develop we've seen a few, but maybe not as much as some had anticipated. how would you rate all of this >> well, becky, these are 100 trump days it's like dog years. you know, so we have more time it's really unrealistic to expect any meaningful trade events to take place in 100 days same is true for the north korean nuclear situation so we just got to contain our expectations here. there are small things, as you said, and there's the story

about the steel tariffs which have huge political advantage. but, not an awful's been done. it will be in the next 100 days. >> gordon let's start with trade and talk about north korea, too. when it comes to trade, where do you think we stand just in terms of the relationship between the two countries. there was a lot of rhetoric that got thrown out in the election, and the very early days, but it seems like we're working to the a little more closely. what do you think happens from here >> well, you know, during these 100-day negotiations, they're sputtering, and the number of news organizations have talked about, and i think trade relations are going to get testy for a number of reasons. one of them is that president trump clearly linked trade to north korea. the chinese had disappointed him on their efforts to disarm pyongyang, and so i think that he's going to take it out on trade. and also you've got to remember that the republicans face 2018 in places like wisconsin, pennsylvania, michigan, the chinese have been dragging their

feet, especially on credit cards. this has really been unacceptable and although i understand the need to contain expectations, we've been doing that for decades. and it's really gotten us nowhere. so i think that the impatience is really important right now to show china that we actually are going to defend american trade interests and if we don't do this we're going to get leaders who are more anti-trade than sanders and trump. so i think right now is a good time to get china to hold to its trade promises >> john, gordon is of the opinion that look, the reason china has been so successful is because its trading partners have allowed it to develop these predatory trading practices over the last couple of decades as you just said, he thinks patience is running thin, do you agree with that assessment >> well, of course i think that we've -- we've got to concentrate on opening markets, and it would be good to do that faster rather than slower it's also true that the trade

account is exactly the mirror image of the capital account and when capital tries to get out of china, it has impacts on trade, as well and the numbers that just came out had imports rising 17% annual rate in china, and exports 11%. both big numbers so, the recent story is really chinese growth returning and that growth returning is having a big impact on their imports, including from us, especially agricultural imports. >> there was some of those same numbers also showed that chinese trade with north korea increased in the first half of the year. and that came to as a surprise to a lot of people including the president, who was tweeting about that, too. so, john, let's go to north korea -- >> that's just -- >> what progress are we or are we not making? le >> not we're not making it. you know, i've actually worked in north korea on more than one occasion and it is an abysmal, abysmal place. it's gotten worse than the fact

taken over and not going to get better until this family is ultimately removed from power. which i think will happen sooner or later chinese trade with north korea has always been there. especially oil refined products going into north korea china has been helping -- i don't understand why china has been so slow to put pressure on north korea. i understand there are historical reasons why that's difficult. but this is not in china's interests what's happening right now. >> gordon, does china understand that >> no, i don't think they do i mean short-term, you know, they've been weaponizing north korea by transferring kwipt for their ballistic missile program, and probably technology for north korea's most advanced missiles there's also new cooperation which is really important to us. and so they're weaponizing north korea to destabilize south korea, japan, and us, and so i think the trump administration is starting to lose patience with this.

you know, china short-term gets a lot of benefits from north korean provocations, because we stop talking about trade, south china sea, predatory trade practices, all sorts of things and you know, at this point, we've got to stop this dynamic, and i think the trump administration is, indeed, on that road. >> meaning you think what comes next from the u.s. an ultimatum >> i think that we're going to start to sever larger chinese financial institutions from the global banking system. the treasury department did that on june 29th, with a small chinese bank i think they're going to go after a larger banks because they've also been involved in money laundering and you know, all we have to do is enforce u.s. law, and we can have a big impact on the chinese financial system, the chinese economy, and the chinese political system, and i believe that the chinese understand that trump recognizes that, which means that we're probably headed for some pretty dangerous territory with the chinese, as both sides start to confront reality.

>> john, how do you see this playing out this year? >> well, i think there's more difficulties coming, too, as garden does. the problem is, the administration here doesn't have the manpower in state department and in commerce to actually engage in the work and push that forward very much. but, i think u.s./china growing toward conflict is a story we're going to see and we're going to talk about for a very long time. it's a very difficult time part of what we see, of course, is xi is assuming an authoritarian position inside china. the internal politics are changing i'm sure you saw pu has been removed from chinese internet over the weekend because there were jokes -- >> by pooh, meaning winnie the pooh >> winnie the pooh there were jokes about xi resembling pooh. so he controls the internet in his own vanity so china's changing. in a bad way >> let me ask you both very quickly, how secure is xi in his

position and john i'll start with you >> he's more secure than you might like him to be democratic reforms have been completely rolled back since he's beenin power. the media has been shut down the internet has been largely shut down. and so, his personal power has grown, along with the -- along with the courage of bad players and politics they've also purged political enemies. and so i think he is not in danger from the party insiders, and most of what we see here is moves he's doing in the name of worrying about political stability inside china >> all right gordon, very quick answer on that >> yeah, he's more secure than winnie the pooh. the other thing, though, is that he's riling the political system by trying to move it back to a one-man system a maoist system and that is going to roil politics and destabilize xi jinping in the final analysis >> gordon, john, thank you both for your time this morning >> thank you

>> pleasure. coming up, could automakers face a bumpy road when it comes to self-driving cars and a new study suggestion that drivers might not trust them when it comes to developing a safe car details straight ahead can't imagine i'd take a nap being self-driven. >> no. not there yet. >> and then a closer look at telecom winners and losers is now the time to buy that beaten down sector we'll find out (baby crying) (slow jazz music) ♪ fly me to the moon ♪ and let me play (bell ring)

welcome back to "squawk box. among today's top corporate stories investor nelson peltz is mounting a fight for a board seat at procter & gamble joining us to break down some of this is john feeney who covers p&g for consumer edge research john, this proxy contest means what in your mind? >> good morning. evolution, not revolution. i think this represents peltz engaging with management for a long-term solutions that are breaking down bureaucracy, and therefore improving shares, getting better returns as opposed to some of the more drastic changes we've come to

expect from some other activist campaigns and other management change >> so you look at this and say it's a catalyst, though? i mean it's funny, because nelson peltz when he comes into these things historically starts out as friendly but they don't always end that way. >> good point. i certainly -- i think he's smart and demanding. and i think this is a beginning, not an end but you have to remember, he's been engaged with management for a few months i think he's -- it's think he's properly identified the issues here and they're not going to be fixed overnight. >> but if he was truly happy, do you think he'd need a board seat >> well, it's certainly one way of assuring you have a place in the conversation i think this assures a longevity for his participation in this stock, in this story, and influencing it in a positive way. and i wouldn't note any kind of hostility in that seating. >> what do you think the stock could be worth >> well, i mean, we have a neutral rating on it because i think it's trading at about a

point above its long-term average. i could certainly envision situations, you know, with better -- with better improvement, you could -- with better sorry, top line trajectory you could make a case it should trade at or above its all-time highs in valuation. but where we stand right now i think it's fairly valued >> and would you encourage shareholders to put peltz on the board? >> from what i can see, since he's properly identified the issues here, and the pace at which they should be addressed, yeah, i'd say i would. >> okay, john, we appreciate your time. and we should tell you that nelson peltz is going to be on our air at 9:45 this morning on "squawk on the street. in the meantime the rules of the road are changing for traditional automakers last week a published report detailing the obstacles facing the industry from driverless cars to ride sharing services leading many established players in the dust according to that survey consumers are more aware of self-driving car technology from google and tesla than the

traditional automaker. when drivers were asked to name a car with self-driving car technology 55% named tesla, 20% named google but only 12% could name a traditional automaker equally troubling consumers trust silicon valley much more than automakers. among those surveyed 41% say they would trust a silicon valley company the most for autonomous vehicle software, only 16% said they would trust a traditional detroit manufacturer the most so, could these numbers mean a bumpy road ahead for automakers when it comes to self-driving cars joining us is bob lutz, former vice chairman of general motors, and a cnbc contributor good morning, bob. >> good morning. >> so, this is the big question. the big question is, should we be -- well, should we be trusting the valley over the technology that's coming out of detroit. >> well, of course not the "usa today" survey is relatively meaningless, because all it does is measure what the american public believes today

the american public is always way behind the times you know, they don't educate themselves well. >> but in this case, who is behind -- is silicon valley behind or ahead of the times relative to detroit? >> well, let's put it this way everybody is at about the same place when it comes toll autonomous car technology. but autonomous car technology, it's an integration of sensors, software, maps, digital maps, and so forth into one unit. and that -- the suppliers of that are going to be numerous, they're going to be various global companies, probably some european, some u.s., some chinese, and in many, many cases, the automakers themselves i don't think you could claim that anybody is ahead of general motors right now, for instance, when it comes to autonomous cars in that the cadillac ct-6 is going to be launched in september, and it will have like fully autonomous capability, not

only with a bunch of in-vehicle sensors, but also with down to 4 inch precision digital maps of the united states. >> bob, hold on, but just back up for one second. so you think that the autonomous vehicles that we talk about and have seen on this air, when it comes to what google or thank you called waymo has been doing, are not more -- that gm has the same technology? >> oh, absolutely. absolutely gm has the digital maps. gm has the hardware and software they don't make it all themselves no automobile company is going to make the stuff themselves they're going to buy it from various companies that do the integration. but this is not rocket science autonomous vehicles, i hate to say this, but they're relatively easy to do and they'll get perfected over time now long-term, they are a huge danger for the automobile companies. because when we get to stage four, which are standardized,

modules that can fit in to a high-speed train, on the freeway, when we get to that, and you just dial up your module, then we have a problem because nobody will give -- nobody will give a darn what brand of module shows up at the right time at your house as long as it's clean and nice and does the job and car ownership will decline to almost nothing. and at that point, the value is no longer going to be captured in making automobiles, making automobiles is kind of like, nobody wants to be nokia, where they had a commanding lead in the handset market, and then all of a sudden handsets didn't matter anymore because the value with these handsets given away free with the cellular service and all of the value was captured by the content providers. that's why you're going to see automobile manufacturers trying to move downstream >> right >> general motors investment in

lyft general motors investment in maven, and so forth. because, that is where the value is going to be captured. but the sort of branded automobi automobile, oh, wow i have a bmw and you only have a chevrolet that is absolutely going to go away >> bob it's a much longer conversation and i want to have it with you. because i did not appreciate that you think that gm is on the same page as or even more advanced in some cases from the others but we want to have you come in at some point. >> okay, great >> thank you, sir. >> great too see you >> what are you mad at him you didn't appreciate that >> no, i'm not mad -- >> or you didn't understand. >> i'm saying i didn't -- >> coming up the telecom -- >> appreciate that the telecom sector's been hit -- >> on twitter disagreeith m whi already i'm sure >> he's a big gm

telecom is down more than 15% year-to-date compared to the over all s&p which is up nearly 10% and it's the worst performing sector in the past week this month this quarter this six months this twelve months, and year to date

why, people are worried about the growing price pressures in the industry, particularly with the price battle in the wireless business the losingest sector is made up of just four companies with only one in the green year-to-date level 3 communications up a little more than 3%, and he links it to century link's bid and optimism of level 3's ceo chasing the helm the losers, verizon tumbling nearly 18% raymond james points to a second year in a row of no earnings growth in verizon in addition to a strategy that investors question at&t playing 14% with morningstar telling me it boils down to industry tightening, competition which teg finegativy impacted verizon and at&t. >> landon, thank you when we come back, washington watch senator john bar osso will join us right after the break to talk about health care, tax reform and much more. in the meantime take a look at

the futures. they've been higher through the morning, even with the s&p 500 and the dow sitting at new highs. right now dow futures up by 26 off the highs of the morning s&p up by close to 2 the nasdaq up by 15.

summer sizzle. investors feeling red hot as the dow and the s&p sit at record highs. this week's test, a flood of corporate earnings >> proxy fight attention proctor aer & gamble. activist investor nelson peltz wants a seat on your board >> plus taking communication to a whole new level one smiley face at a time we're celebrating world emoji day as the final hour of "squawk box" begins right now. ♪ >> live from the most powerful city in the world, new york, this is "squawk box. >> good morning. welcome back to "squawk box" here on cnbc live from the nasdaq marketsite in times square i'm joe kernen along with

becky quick and andrew ross sorkin a couple of familiar -- we work together, right, on this show? >> and we're finally all here at the same time. which is nice. >> you know what -- >> nice to see you >> we've been on the show for a long time. we had a roving group last week. all right -- >> you were on vacation. >> everybody's -- >> we have a lot of talent futures right now take a quick look our indicator, up 28 on the dow. up under 2 on the s&p, 15 on the nasdaq 2.31 on the 10-year. kind of interesting. it had been, looked like it was headed back to higher, or after a brief run-up, you guys weren't here for that jobs report, were you? >> i was >> you were here muted wage gains came right back down >> a big corporate store youry to tell you. trian's nelson peltz seeking a

board seat at procter & gamble would be the largest activist attempt in recent memory joining us right now on the "squawk" news line is nick modi who covers the stock for rbc capital markets. how do you think about this, nik? >> what he's looking for is very consistent with what we were thinking, right? no breakup that doesn't really make sense for p&g. no change in ceo i think david taylor who took over about two years ago is doing a great job. but he wants more immediacy in terms of earnings growth the problem is this, is that proctor's basically been pruning its portfolio trying to get more focus in terms of what it focuses on, and that has driven earnings, you know, pressure in addition to all the fx head winds that we've seen and large cap consumer staples, no company has grown earnings because of the fx situation >> so what's possible here >> i just don't know i don't think it makes sense i don't think it's going to change anything if he gets on the board. the sense of urgency within the companies has elevated since

david took over. >> not a catalyst for you? >> not really. obviously you have to go through a very extensive proxy battle. second, even if he gets on the board i'm really not sure how he's going to all of a sudden miraculously make fx headwinds stop >> so would you tell shareholders to vote against him? >> well, i -- i don't -- that's really not my place. but i just don't think it's going to make a big change in how p&g is going to deliver on its financial commitments. i mean the company's been cutting costs pretty aggressively we've seen a lot of consumer staples companies, including pepsi and coke and colgate and kimberly cut costs aggressively, but the fx situation has wiped out all of those gains so productor is not unique >> nick at $87, it's trading at a p/e of 24 times. does that make sense >> that's where we've been caution. we say 24 times -- >> that's a lot. >> that is a lot >> for this company that isn't a f.a.n.g. stock >> look, think about this.

clorox is trading at a premium to p&g, okay >> which also is insane. >> yeah. so, we are in an environment where we have a lot of weird things going on because the etf market has become so dominant in terms of moving stock prices right? so it's a low ball stock, high yield, a lot of these stocks have performed well and you go back the last five years, i mean consumer sample stocks have done incredibly well despite very anemic growth and in a back it drop where rates are now starting to go up, and the stocks are still trading we've got to start asking ourselves the question, what is really driving the valuations, and i think there's a lot of -- >> but, it's the 3% yield, number one, and it's not trading at -- coca-cola traded at 50 times earnings in 1999 i mean procter & gamble is a stable -- >> i get it. i'm saying 24 times. >> 24 times? 50 i understand what you're saying. but it is a -- i mean it is a blue chip and yielding 3% in a 2% 10-year environment >> if you could own google or

p&g -- >> it is what it is. i don't know but it is what it is and it's there for a reason so this is like your all these arguments. the market doesn't und stand it shouldn't be here. i don't know, you know maybe it yunt. maybe it should. >> nik thank you for that. you don't want to miss this because nelson peltz is going to be on "squawk on the street" for a cnbc exclusive at 9:45 eastern sometime you'll hear directly from the man. >> he thinks it's undervalued. >> even at 24 times. >> let's talk about some washington news. the senate will delay a vote on the health care bill whole senator john mccain recovers from surgery joining us right now is senator john barrasso of wyoming, and senator, thanks for being here today. >> thanks for having me. >> let's talk a little bit about what this delay means. does that make it easier or tougher for you to wrangle the votes? >> well, we're all thinking about john mccain this morning but i'll tell you, he is a force. i was in vietnam with him last month. he will be back stronger than ever we need to delay the vote until he gets here

we need all 50 votes as you know two senators have come out, republicans have come out against it, as have all of the democrats, and the senators that have come out against it have come out for different reasons. one saying it goes too far the other saying it doesn't go far enough we're working to get to 50 with the mike pence breaking the tie. we are committed to do it. it's an urgency to do it because the key word, affordable, isn't there under the obama health care law. >> you mention the two republican senators who have said that they will vote no. that's rand paul, who as you said, it doesn't go far enough susan collins who thinks that it goes too far in terms of what it does to medicaid 33 but, we also hear that there are eight to ten other senators who have some serious concerns where do you stand with that group of senators at this point? >> well, we're working with closely with all of them when you mention medicaid, of course, that was a program initially designed to help low income women, children, and the disabled but with the medicaid expansion under obamacare, paying states

bonuses for signing up able-bodied, working-age individuals that made it a lot harder for those people who it was initially designed for to get doctors. we now know that one out of three doctors won't take new medicaid patients because there's so many people now that they've been dumped onto medicaid, and not the people it was designed for initially. >> but susan collins' concerns have to do with those things that you do think of the original sort of mandate for medicaid and that is she's concerned about nursing homes not being able to function with this bill going through. she's concerned about rural hospitals no longer being able to operate how -- i understand your point but there are people on medicaid that wrl never the people that this was intended to help, but how do you get to that same question that other senators are grappling with, what will this mean in my state will i have hospitals that no longer can operate will i have nursing homes that no longer can operate? will i have children who need this who will no longer be able to get the funds >> those are absolutely key concerns and obviously coming

from wyoming, where we have mostly rural hospitals, and i met with a number of hospital administrators over the past couple of weeks and over the fourth of july, those are huge concerns as you know, zeke emmanuel who was the architect of obamacare, he was being interviewed today on npr and he's written a book about obamacare and he said what we need, he said we have 5,000 hospitals in the united states, and we said, 1,000 need to close. i mean that's from his book. well those are rural hospitals the 53 hospitals that closed already under obamacare are rural hospitals because it made it that much harder for small community hospitals. at the same time, there's a report out this morning in politico that the biggest hospitals, and the america hospital association reports record profits from them so obamacare took it in the wrong direction, becky >> so, senator, the eight to ten -- in your gut, what is it telling you, that some of the eight to ten that really will

break ranks, they haven't yet, which is kind of interesting, i think, and then you read i don't know if you saw fred barnes' piece in the "journal" about the republicans a lot of times don't stick together and that it will hurt the republican party and hurt the country if they, you know, if they don't get in line. i asked earlier somewhat cynically about what's so great about being a senator, where, if, you know, the specter of losing your seat there, and you're a senator, what is it -- you get great cable? is it people look at you and say, wow you're a senator and they admire you and you walk through a place and heads turn what is it that causes these -- the keeping the job to be so much more important than maybe doing something that is philosophically in some people's view correct what is it what do you like best about being a senator? you were a doctor. you've always been a -- >> -- over the weekend, as you know, joe, most people call me

dr. barrasso or call me john the third thing is senator so, it's a great privilege to represent the people of wyoming. i go home every weekend. what i heard this past weekend is, health care is not affordable you need to get down the cost. and the republican bill -- >> in your gut, do you -- out of the eight to ten, who is most likely to waffle and bolt? >> well, you know, joe, every senator is going to get to speak for themselves we're working with all of them to get people on board because this is going to be a completely open amendment process on the floor of the senate any republican, any democrat, during reconciliation, can offer an amendment to change the republican health care bill once it gets on the floor we're getting the 50 votes plus the vice president to get it to the floor. to have that open debate the open amendment process, so that any senators' concerns can be brought up and if they can get a handle orty of people to vote to support them it will be included in the new law. >> as a doctor, when is mccain going to be ready to come back

to d.c.? do you know? you haven't done that surgery on a blood clot around an eye, have you? but how long does it take to recuperate >> well, he's tougher than most. tougher than all so whatever the regular time is, cut it in half he'll be back ready to join the fight. >> all right >> senator, thank you. we appreciate your time today. >> thanks. you can ask a question -- >> you know, that's what al franken said when he was here, that it's not the trap beings of the office that makes people want to -- >> no, it's the representing your -- >> representing -- >> constituents and -- >> trying to help -- but cynically, you watch the way politics works, especially in the house every two years, they win one election and it's already the next day they're thinking about the next election, so -- >> which is why people like ken rangone want to see term limits. >> that's what i mean. >> another busy week for earnings, nine, count 'em nine

dow koents set to report joining us kris teen short senior vice president -- you're not short everything, are you christine? >> oh, such a great last name for this >> maybe it's right. >> no, not this earnings season, no i mean look we're expecting another great quarter. we're at about 8% year over year bottom line growth a down pick from the first quarter where we were at 14% if you really look at that number, if you take out energy, which is expected to grow 400%, year over year growth is only around 4%. and 4% is just about the 20 year historical average so i would say if you look at the real numbers, taking out that exorbitant energy number then you sort of have to ask yourself is this enough to justify current prices which are trading at about 18 times forward twelve months earnings with that said, banks really kicked us off on a high note on friday yes this morning we had blackrock kind of putting in a

disappointing number but banks certainly gave the financials a boost on friday. >> what else will give us an indicator of the overall tone for the autonomy this week >> you know, i think we've got a lot of tech stocks coming up this next couple of weeks. they're expected to be, if you take out energy they're expected to really be the lead sector this quarter 13% growth year over year. drill down into that, is semiconductors semiconductors are really going to put up some high numbers this quarter. micron already did they're one of the main components with semiconductors leading them higher. and i think if you look at the opposite end of things, you know, consumer discretionary really had been a darling for the last two years, 2015, 2016 they're expected to be the lagging sector, the only one expecting negative growth of 2%. if you look at some of the notes that have already been released from darden, from auto zone it really comes down to higher wage costs and i think that's a theme you're going to see continue throughout where we especially get to the retailers at the end of the season, and within a lot

of fedex said it's long so it's not just consumer discretionary but i think you're going to look for one stronger dollar comments and two wage costs being discussed here >> well i think of micron as almost a commodity, commodity. what does that mean? what are -- what's strong? global technology upgrades or something? >> yeah. so, for if you saw the latest report on pc sales they were certainly down quarter higher memory chip costs, certainly helped micron, as the chips got more sensitive pc demand has fallen but they are one of the largest chipmakers i think you look across semiconductors names like nvidia, they make gaming chips, so that the chips that go within gaming consoles, they've been very strong. and a weak quarter for gopro sales so they make camera chips. there's a lot of different chip companies that we can look at within semiconductors and apple is always a big we're always looking for indicators from skyworks and some of the apple

chip suppliers, those all seem to be strong this quarter. >> where -- where do you have revenue growth and where is it -- and year over year what's that supposed to be? >> 5% revenue growth is the expectation. again, down from first quarter where we were at 7%. you know it's a little easier to predict revenues you're not going to see outlandish numbers but it's within tech where 8% is the current expectation but overall metered revenue numbers and that's something we always comment on because you have the kind of crazy earnings numbers, you expect companies to be, but you know, not as many companies beat on revenues and that number doesn't change as much where you might have 60% to 70% of s&p 500 companies beating on the bottom line only 50% weeting on revenue. that's something we're certainly tracking this season as well but in regards to the banks reporting on friday almost all of them beat revenues except for wells fargo so far we did actually a lot of revenue beats as well. >> and the outlook for most companies will be onwards and upwards? >> we're actually seeing a

decelebration in growth in the back half of the year so only about 7% growth for the third and fourth quarter i see those numbers pull back a little bit as they often do you'll see those pull back as we end this earnings season they're quite in-flighted at the combination of the year. i think one thing that we're looking for is commentary on tax reform i think you've seen those numbers come down as that's become less likely this year and will be pushed out into 2018 but right now, it's still very high single digit growth but again, those numbers are starting to pull back just a little bit >> great thank you. >> thanks. >> is that -- name christine short for short? >> yes >> okay. you -- you know, just wouldn't take it -- christine long. >> coming up, when we return, snap or should i say o-snap shares of the messaging snap dropping below their ipo price an analyst on if a bounceback is

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welcome back to "squawk box" this morning we are watching shares of snap they are now below their ipo price and more trouble could be on the horizon many of the backers will be released from their lockup restrictions that expire in less than two weeks permitting them to sell out of their positions joining us brian white senior equity research analyst at drexel hamilton. how much more do you think this stock has to go, either way? >> well, if you look at facebook, it had a very tough four months. >> right >> the stock bottomed exactly four months after its ipo. >> okay. and it went down -- >> associated with the lockup? >> associated with the lockup. so it finally bottomed out, and then started to go up. you know, snap, here we are just over four months and stock is down about 48%. facebook was down 60% during that time. >> okay. so you think this is a great buying opportunity >> i think it is a great buying opportunity. we've covered a lot of companies

that have had lockups and they tend to bottom out around the lockup period. >> but what do you think the stock is actually going to be worth then >> well, we have a price target of $30 so if you look at a lot of very high growth companies in the first three years after an ipo, they traded 9 to 22 times enterprise value to revenue. remember this is a 100% growth company. >> i get all of what you're saying except for the fact that facebook is arguably eating their lunch, which is to stay when you look at what instagram is doing with instagram stories and all of that and you also recognize that it seems, at least for the moment, that snapchat can't grow out of its demographic, you know, how much room is there really to run? >> so, i think they're definitely feeling some pressure absolutely right the market is enormous for mobile advertising so it's about $66 billion based on ibc going $196 billion in five years it doesn't have to be winner takes all. i mean i think this is a market just like every market and you know, snap is only a

billion dollar company maybe this year. right? look at facebook it's $38 billion right? so, they don't need to -- and you have this -- >> are they in the same league this was always the problem with twitter. everybody thought that twitter was eventually going to become as big as facebook that was the promise, if you will is this a one-to-one messaging app, which is what it does so well, or is this something else? >> i think it's different. right? i think it's a totally different -- we call it a platform for the imagination right? it's a tool that you can go in there, and do a lot of cool different things, get engaged with it, and they can sell advertising to you without you feeling like they are. right? the advertising is very engaging >> right >> whether it's a lend whether it's a discovery story and there are also, remember, very focused on a demographic. right? so that's a great thing, because advertisers want that demographic. very tough to reach. in 27% of the world's population, and facebook is very broad. so i think advertisers are going

to work both with facebook, they're going to work with snap. they're going to work with google and just like, you know, the ceo of -- >> -- snap or twitter who do you give it to at these current valuations >> i give most of it to snap >> you give most of it -- >> oh, absolutely. >> brian thank you for coming in >> thanks a lot. >> appreciate it >> messaging apps like snapchat are revolutionizing the way that people community indicate. today we mark those changes with world emoji day. eric has more on that story, and how do you actually get a day declared around the world? >> that's right. as ridiculous as it sounds, we are here talking about world emoji day because in the iphone there's a calendar emoji that says july 17th because that's the birthday of apple's product from 2002. emojis reflect the changing nature of communications for people and business. we went from the phone to e-mail, e-mail to text, now we're going from actual language to just pictures consider on instagram the majority of people use emojis, they're officially 2666 emojis in unicode standard that will

always work, plus countless unofficial emojis introduced by companies, brands, celebrities, you name it. corporate examples dominoes lets you use emojis to order pizza. chevy put out a press release completely in emojis goldman sachs did a research report on millennials. twitter charges companies a million bucks apiece to get customized emojis. their customers include coke, pepsi, starbucks and disney. snapchat spent $100 million for a company that turns your face into an emoji. the reason behind all this academic research shows there's more user interaction when you use emojis i know it tuneds crazy but just wait a couple decades for the next generation to be in charge like your kids, will cnbc even need words anymore we just going to be doing stories just pictures of the little bank, the bank emoji. the up arrow, the dollar seine the little yen stack of bills. who knows what could happen. i know it's crazy but this is the fourth year now that hey had world emoji day from the founder of emojipedia.

>> so that's how they declared it world emoji there's this emoji movie out >> there's an emoji movie. facebook says about 5 billion emojis are used every day on their messenger app. some opera house is doing their operas in emojis like it's a little silly but it's true that most people use them, and there's more interaction there. so for businesses, that's why they're spending all this money. >> you did a good job. >> i really tried to put it together >> when you said, it's ridiculous but here we are talking about emojis i was going to say, no, here you are talking about emojis >> do you know about the emoji movie that's coming? >> i don't know much about it. i try to focus more on the business side of it. i know -- >> my kids are getting excited about this emoji movie >> it's more for your kids [ everyone talking at once ] >> there it is can we get the camera height right here and there it is. i have a hard time imagining -- >> i think it's t-u-r-d. >> that's what you've heard?

>> that's what i've heard, too i was excited about the lego movie. i felt like that was my generation this generation's lego movie is emoji -- >> no my kids like the lego movie. >> they're more mature they're not going to get sucked in -- >> your business -- the village is lord business okay >> you haven't seen the latest one. >> with emojis, like if you don't see that well close up, andi do okay close up, but if you don't, you can sort of make out words but i never know whether someone's smiling, or unhappy, or -- what is straight across for the mouth just ambivalent? >> that's like one of these? >> yeah i don't get anything out of this. >> i don't get anything out of these. >> if you use an iphone if you do less than three emojis in one text they're much bigger so you can see them that's key you've got to do three or less >> okay. >> otherize it's -- >> they're really small for me, too, yeah.

>> like i said, nice to see you. good job i'm glad you came up with this, suggested it and begged to do this story >> that's right. >> coming up this morning, top stories plus a new report on the state of the economy, and then former cea chairman and columbia business school dean glenn hubbard will join us on set. he's been rumored as a possible replacement for fed chair janet yellen yoreatarco of that gy hn u' wching "squawk box" on cnbc rain is an amazing thing. but as you get older, it naturally begins to change, causing a lack of sharpness, or even trouble with recall. thankfully, the breakthrough in prevagen helps your brain and actually improves memory. the secret is an ingredient originally discovered... in jellyfish. in clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve short-term memory. prevagen. the name to remember. the power of a low volatility investing approach.

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♪ good morning and welcome back to "squawk box" here on cnbc live from the nasdaq marketsite in times square. among the stories that are front and center this morning, we are watching the shares of dow component procter & gamble, trian's nelson peltz is seeking a board seat at procter. he says the consumer giant has a bloated strukter and costs he's not looking to replace the ceo or any current board members. we'll hear from nelson peltz when he appears on "squawk on the street" at 9:45 a.m. eastern time bank of mark mel lon has a new

executive chief officer. charles shark who was formerly the ceo at visa. he replaces the ceo who will remain as chairman through the end of the year. and watch for the latest numbers from netflix, after the closing bell, and now happening this afternoon. analysts predict netflix will report quarterly engs of 16 cents a share on revenue of nearly $2.8 billion. they'll also be keeping a close watch as they always do on subscriber growth. a new report on the economy this morning suggesting some good news for workers. steve liesman joins us with the details. is this wage inflation finally starting to -- >> i don't call it wage inflation. i call it wage growth. we can talk about the difference a little bit later but that check with your raise might finally be in the mail a new survey from the national association for business economics suggests that wages are already on the rise. 47% of the 101 businesses surveyed said they're hiking wages up 8 points from last quarter and the second highest reading we've had since the end of the recession

the same percentage that they expect wages to rise in the next three months and employers are saying it isn't easy to find workers 35% saying it's difficult to hire, 27% say no difficulty, and 20% didn't try to hire and 18% don't know but, take a look at the strategies being used by this 35%. 22% are rising pay to find workers. 19% are training internally. and joe there's your 10% are automating more instead of finding workers. and 4% are actually lowering requirements for the job businesses also reporting positive outlooks for sales along with capital spending. offsetting some of the wage pressure, fewer firms are reporting rising material costs. so the profit outlook remains positive >> what's the difference again between wage growth and inflation? >> i don't like to have the idea of rising wages being called inflation -- >> so it's just -- >> when they go up with productivity when wages rise -- oh, why am i

even talking when the professor, the guy who is like the dean of -- was i close? >> you're doing great an ec econ 101 >> that's all i can do is 101. i can't say anything more. >> why are you talking >> becky asked me a question >> nice enough to not ask -- >> okay. we are joined by -- >> i realize we have a better -- >> business school dean glen hubbard. is that sort of a personal thing that steve has with that or is he on to something with not calling it wane inflation? >> as long as productivity is growing and wages rise that's a good thing we should be celebrating we're looking for wage growth. it's only when wage growth really outstrips productivity for a period of time that you have trouble i think this is good it's a sign the labor market's tightening that's a good thing, not a bad thing. we need to do more to bring people back into the workforce but that's a tougher problem >> is it a different -- what is it, 4.7, 4.8, is it different this time around there's some nuance that sounds

really low and like labor is really tight but it doesn't seem like that's the case >> well, it is and it isn't. i mean the labor force is tight by people who are actually in the labor force. the question is all the people who left the labor force >> demographically baby boomers? >> no. that's a part of it. some people were just discouraged and left the labor force. we can get them back -- we're not going to get them back in a month. >> -- say it's half. about half that's the best studies that are out there. >> but that means half we can get back we're not going to get them back with monetary policy but we can get them back with better work support policy and tax policy >> can we, this is the big question now, can we actually get 3% by either population growth somehow, or i don't know, if we -- i don't know how we need to handle immigration reform i don't know how that plays into it and can productivity increase with capital spending, like by corporations >> yes, some of all of the

above. we can grow at 3%. it's not easy. but it takes a few things. we could have to get -- >> is it -- >> well we can we have to get productivity back -- >> we have to get about half of the lost labor force participation back the non-democrat graphic part back and of course, immigration would help a lot but we can do those things but they would require very different policy mix than the one representing -- >> you're not drinking kool-aid. >> no, you can definitely do it. it's not easy. but we can definitely do it. >> better than denying it. >> i'm not sure i have -- >> setting you up as -- >> i said it's very difficult to do, and the current immigration policies do not lend themselves to increasing population and also, it's unclear to me, and i think it's unclear to a lot of people that government policy can really affect the key factor which is productivity it can help. but as janet yellen said the other day, getting a few tents out of productivity from a program is a success >> it's huge

>> getting half a point or a point is pretty much -- >> -- about capital spending the thing that this business cycle was different in was the collapse in capital spending that has been the biggest explanation of the decline in productivity better tax policy can help to turn that around we can do this even if you say -- >> you think that's why it is that businesses aren't spending -- >> i think it's a big factor i think regulation of tax policy are very big factors in the productivity slowdown. and tax policy can help there. tax policy can also help with hours worked but we've got to actually do it. we can't just talk about it. >> i mean, jamie dimon's comments were just vintage, i thought last week, especially coming from a democrat you know what i mean he could actually say that pro-growth can actually work do you think there's a whole group of economists, and people with skin in the game, that they have to go back in the last eight years and they have to say, yeah, we did screw up some of our policies were

detrimental to growth? if we can grow at 3% the whole narrative about it being impossible suddenly goes up in smoke. >> right >> and there's a lot of people with invested interest in saying that 2% is the maximum we can do right now. >> i think it's hard to get people to go back and say i made a mistake. an easier thing is looking forward -- >> they're actually prague we don't get to 3%. >> democrats and republicans can come together on corporate tax reform >> no they can't >> that deal has been on offer for several -- >> you really think democrats, you get a vote on tax reform >> not at a number like 15%. >> no a number like 28%. >> even mid 20s or low 20s i think is possible, and you could pay for it so i think it's a matter of figuring out what is the biggest impact on productivity and what can we get -- >> is there still a climate in washington that would allow a deal like that to happen where the two sides are working together, because it seems like the climate is so poisonous right now, that it's hard for me to imagine any bill that both sides -- >> obviously it is poisonous anybody can look at that and see. having said that, the stakes are

so large here. it only takes a few leaders on both sides and they are there, who could come together. but the president would have to lead he would have to put out a plan and have everybody start shooting at it >> and he would have to put out a plan that would be something much closer to this bipartisan number like say 25%. >> right >> for the sake of argument. he's saying 15 if the president continues to say 15 that doesn't -- if you say it takes presidential leadership to get there you're not going to get there from -- >> 15 is hard just because it's difficult to see how you would pay for it but for something like the border adjustment that seems if anything on political life support. >> yeah. >> so the question being what would be a different plan. the administration is working on it when they serve up the plan, if it is sort of in the middle i think it's got a good shot >> can we ask your opinion of the productry of fed policy here they're on this graduate tightening path and reducing the balance sheet? >> i think they're on the right path the bigger question for me is not the normalization.

it's more articulating a framework to explain to the public what they're doing. i think of it as a maintain and explain. maintain something tell the public what your rule is what governors your actions, and then when you deviate, explain to the public and the congress why, we've seen the fed been doing that you can't talk about the balance sheet or where you're going unless you know what true north is >> can we also talk about the elephant in the room which is whether or not you would take the fed chair role if offered and has anyone talked to you about it >> there's only one person whose opinion counts there, his name is donald trump. i don't think that's interesting. i think what is interesting is the future of the fed. the administration really can remake the fed in monetary policy, lender of last resort, financial regulation and i think that's the real conversation to have >> one more, though. what do you think about somebody like a gary cohn who doesn't necessarily have the economic background that you might or somebody else might as an economist. have you -- do you have a view about that >> i don't think economists have

a monopoly on skills to run things >> okay. >> i think you need a diversity of talent in an organization at the same time, the fed's hard it's a very technical job. >> right >> it's not a political job. and so you need in that mix of skills a lot of technical skills >> can we follow up on that? which is how would you remake the fed? >> well i think if your question for the president is getting appointees who fit an agenda of articulating a clear framework and sticking to it he's made some very good nominations in that regard. i think it's really a matter of articulating what kind of rules we're going to follow, how we're going to follow them and then explaining to the congress when we don't we've seen over the past decade or so a policy that's a little too ad hoc, at least for my taste, and leaves the public wondering what's going on. and leaves markets and the business community wondering where we're headed >> it's nice that you said that you don't have to be an economist to the head of the fed, instead of, you know, the other side of it is, autonomous,

do they have any real world experience whatsoever? i mean should -- maybe we should be embracing the idea that someone who has actually had a job in the private sector could be running the fed because they actually -- >> i do think you need a diversity of skills not only on the fomc, but also as regional bank presidents, many academics have a big footprint in business or finance, too. >> you think the -- you love the ivory tower -- >> in 1999, and 2002, they came up with a response to a deflationary zero lower balance environment. >> and then -- stayed easy for way too long and build up the whole bubble -- >> why don't we ask the expert here are you part of the -- are you in the camp that you think fed policy being too low for too long led companies to make a choice to do dividends and

buybacks -- >> sort of said that, yeah that's why we have no capital investment >> no, he didn't -- >> okay. >> i'm sorry i missed that >> the fed definitely had a period of money in the early 2000s that definitely helped precipitate the financial crisis i do think policy has distorted risk taking. in the economy i think one of the reasons for normalization is to get beyond that i think that's a view that's pretty widely shared among economists and among many business people. but going back to it, you've really got to articulate a framework that gets you there. you can't just say -- >> you think congress should pass this rule >> i don't know what you mean by the rule >> a rule. >> i don't think the fed needs to have a single rule. >> okay. >> that governors it because after all we don't even know the intersect in that rule. we need to articulate a general way of thinking about the world and inflation or unemployment

and when we deviate from that, as the fed, explain it >> thank you >> very interesting. very interesting still ahead amazon's push to take over the world. up next, messaging and meal delivery later on "squawk on the street" don't miss an exclusive with activist investor nelson peltz you're going to hear about his proxy fight at procter & gamble ap

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if you are gonna do any kind of excavation no matter how small or large before you dig, call 811. keep yourself safe. welcome back to "squawk box" everyone in the headlines this morning, amazon is stepping up its grocery game with plans to deliver meal kits to customers' homes. the e-commerce giant registering a trade mark for a new service with the tag line, we do the prep, you be the chef. this comes just weeks after amazon shelled out more than $1 3 billion to buy grocery chain whole foods. people thinking that this was going to be the future sure enough it is. in other words the company is reportedly working on its own messaging app called anytime its said to focus on messaging, voice and video calls and photo sharing that gives users the ability to apply filters to pictures and videos. very quickly back to this idea of amazon shipping these food kits as a result blue apron shares are down by about 7% this morning. >> really? wow. in other tech news, there are

some very angry "game of thrones" fans this morning, both of hbo's live streaming services crashed during last night's season premiere of the show. this is the second year in a row that the services went down as millions attempted to tune in. it's not clear exactly how many viewers were affected. by the glitch. >> okay. joining us right now to talk all things tech ed lee, recode managing editor and cnbc contributor is here. let's talk hbo for a second. >> yes >> what do you make of that? >> so, look, we're entering increasingly a digital world for all kinds of things. your cable used to go out and you're upset now when your streaming goes out, you're not calling your company, you're thinking about hbo directly that's the thing that's interesting here for years and years, hbo sat behind the cable distributor. cable distributor handled all of the marketing as well as all the customer complaints. now when they have a direct-to-consumer service, hbo now. well who do i complain to? chances are you're complaining

to hbo that's another part of the infrastructure or the cost of running a direct-to-consumer streaming service that should be factored in. >> are they running it themselves or is that -- >> they are using bam tack but the thing is that you're not calling them as a consumer to complain about it. you need to know to do that. you just know you're buying this from hbo directly so that's a factor and i think for the longest time a lot of these guys when they were part of the cable ecosystem, they said we like working with the cable partners because they do all that work for us we don't have customer service reps now, it's like, well where is that how do i, as a consumer, deal with it. >> we're going to be hearing, let's do a little bit of a roundup. we're going to hear from netflix. >> yeah. >> in terms of its earnings. r a lot of emmy nods last week but they also spend a fortune on content. are they spending too much too little >> i actually think they're being smart about investing in content now so that it's something that, you know, you can watch years from now >> right >> if you never watch orange is

the new black you can watch it next year or the year after, it's still fresh to you. so i think it's a good thing to do they've been cash flow negative for years and years. i don't see that changing. their challenge is growth in the u.s. is starting to slow down. basically anyone who wants a netflix account probably already has one. >> right >> so they need to really grow overseas that's a harder thing. different markets, different rules. different types of enterta entertainment. >> different content >> right >> and you said we'll hear from them at the end of the day and that's excessive usage because it will be at the end of the day. so you're not using that as the band usage on "squawk box. because people use it like six times -- >> the proverbial end of the day. >> you used that in an acceptable way and i congratulate >> i appreciate it >> they're reporting at the end of the day you didn't mean the end of the day. blah, blah, blah what happens at the beginning of the day with all the people that say at the end of the day? >> that's a good point, joe. very good point. >> ed, what do you -- do you

think netflix will still take over target? >> it's traded like it's a takeover target. 100 times forward earnings either they have to meet that with its growth, which it's going to be harder for them to do, or someone takes them over if >> not necessarily because of doesn't but it's another distribution play. netflix is like another cable company in that way. 50 million u.s. subscribers that's a huge market to tap into. >> do you have a take on snap? >> it's a lockup period. that's about to expire there's always a sell off. facebook in it's early ipo period after it's ipo also had a long, long dip before it came back so i think jury is still out. i think what's harder though sbauz of facebook they need to crack into that market. >> play a game with me i'm going to allocate you $100 now and you have to reallocate between snap at current valuations, uber to $50 billion

and pinterest. >> all four of those are difficult complicated companies. >> i would probably weight it more heavily toward snap more than any others. i would not put any in twitter. >> let me ask you another question we just talked about this amazon story. amazon getting into the food delivery business. that was speculated but they actually applied. >> going to start doing it. >> blue apron down by 7% on this news blue apron's ipo got hit badly when amazon made the purchase. is that warranted concern about a company like blue apron when you see amazon -- >> i do think so it's interesting whenever amazon makes a move in the area you see that. whole foods. the organic food suppliers were

dropping because they knew they were going to get squeezed jeff besos is playing on a higher level i think it's warranted the way to understand amazon as a retail business isn't necessarily to own inventory the way traditional retailers do it's to hack the delivery system that's their big play. >> that's what amazon does so well they saved enormous amounts of time in my life. i hit three buttons on my phone and it's done. >> you can get it within a few days a lot of other traditional retailers are saying our website needs to be updated. it's not about the website it's how quickly and consistently you can deliver to the consumer that's the key thing. >> when you look at what walmart is doing do you think they have a chance >> it's a different approach. >> mark laurie i think he's a

smart guy. he has a really forward thinking way. the better chance walmart has. >> okay. thank you sir. >> any time. >> when we come back we will find out what jim cramer has fired up this morning. he's going to join us from the new york stock exchange right after this d itself. and her paw won't heal on its own. we're all working forward to something. synchrony financial can help your customers make it happen sooner. so she can plug into her dreams... and they'll have a new addition for their new addition. whatever you're working forward to, even if it's chasing squirrels, synchrony financial can help you get there.

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>> all right make sure that you join us tomorrow we'll be joined by the father-son duo and plus discovery ceo are here big line-up for us hope to see you then it's time for squawk on the street >> good monday morning welcome to squawk on the street. futures are up after friday's record close and a jam packed week awaits us earnings season kicks into gear. europe is mixed. watch for ecb this week. bonds pretty steady. empire was a miss. it's the weakest in 8 months our road map begin with another record breaking run for the dow and s&p setting all time highs will better than expected earnings send stocks higher. >>