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the president and his team set to dine with the two top dems tonight. power lun "power lunch" starts right now welcome, everybody, to "power lunch." i'm melissa lee. stocks are trading in a very narrow range the s&p did hit another intra-day high the best performing sectors, tech and materials, the biggest drags. check out some movers. up 6%. leading the s&p 500. the company buying new york health insurer fidelis care for $2.7 billion take a look at dolby labs. apple tv will support dolby vision here is what else is happening. democratic senator, mark warner, asking the federal trade commission to investigate equifax data security practices

and customer security response following the recent attack. target getting ready for the crucial season hiring about 100,000 seasonal workers. that is a big jump from last year viacom's mtv seeing its first summer ratings growth in six years. brian? >> charlie, thank you. we begin with apple and its big event 24 hours ago in cupertino. apple announcing three new iphones that will be available by the end of the year with these three new phones, there are five lines available for purchaser will be. the iphone se, the 6s, the 7, the 8, and the 10. some of those models have two different versions so that's really eight different phones available to buy or order soon that doesn't include the various memory options for each. for those of you that have gotten a bit lost in all of this here is the handy-dandy current

lineup of what you can and soon be able to buy from apple. the cheapest model is the iphone se, which starts at $349 or about $15 a month. a monthly fee is now the way many of these phones are being advertised and prized. the most expensive currently available is the 7 plus, $28 a month. then, we have the three new phones announced yesterday, the 8, beginning at $699 the 8 plus starting at $799. the iphone 10, which starts at $999 if you get the 256 gigabyte version, it goes up to 1,149 the price range available to buy from the lowly 32 gigabyte se to the 236 gigabyte iphone 10, which is 339 to $1,149 twice the price of the original iphone after your carrier

subsidy. here is the question will people pay for the phones or do they have now wow factor to drive sales that's what we care about. let's bring in onlg injuroger c the demo room yesterday. i don't know if you rode the rotating elevator. the question is, here is what apple and apple investors care about. will, what you saw yesterday, make current apple customers upgrade and pay more or get some android people to sneak over and make the switch to apple >> there are a ton of apple users out there. apple sold over 1 billion phones a lot of people are locked into the apple system they are not looking into the apple phone. are they going to upgrade to the iphone 10 or the 8 or 8 plus a lot of folks are going to go with that more moderately priced

middle tier. >> you think so? this monthly payment is become a thing. i don't know if i want to pay $1,000 it is a couple of $10 extor $12 extra. >> the supply is going to be very scarce. you have to wait an extra month for this phone for a lot of people that have been holding off, they are looking at the iphone a plus and dual camera which is pretty much the same as the iphone 10. they are probably going to think this is good enough. >> if you have a phone and you hear about the watch that is going o be to be untethered, ar thinking consumers will skip the upgrade to the 8 and buy a watch instead? >> an apple watch is still for early doctors.

they are pushing that this time. that comes with a requirement to pay an extra $10 a monthon you cell phone bill. it is beyond the price of the apple watch. you are paying a monthly connection charge like your phone. for a lot of people, having a good phone is more important than the apple watch even with the lt connection. >> roger, could they introduce too many things? i feel like there is so many choices here would they have been better off focusing the presentation a little bit more. >> there was a flood of announcements. i would have liked to have seen a more iphone focused event. even the lineup at this point, you showed up for the lineup there is kind of like a mac book program with this lineup where there is too many iphones and it is getting a lot harder to choose which iphone is your go-to phone. it wasn't a problem when steve jobs introduced the original ix

iphones. >> for the year, they are still up over 35%. will the new phones give shares a long-term lift angelo zino is with cfra research guys, good to have you with us amid, i will start with you. should i be concerned that this date is later that what we expected should i extrapolate that there could be supply constraints here >> yes that's a fair presumption to have this is about a month, month and a half delay from what people thought it would be. the question is, is it delayed because, yes, there are supply constraints and apple is just trying to build up capacity to make sure there is enough for the holiday season that's a presumption i would have this is going to be delayed. if you get your hands on it in mid-november, you might have to wait another four to six weeks our tape, they are probably building more capacity, build up inventory so the product is more

available as traditional launches come december >> we would say this yes, it will swing numbers from december to march or december to march to june but it doesn't change the fundamental belief that iphone x will generate $11 to $12 eps through the cycle it might change the quarters but it doesn't change the full year potential. >> angelo, i am going to ask you about this notion of the super cycle. almost every analyst on wall street expects there to be some sort of super cycle associated with the iphone 8. we also got a very expensive new watch which can be untethered. you have to pay extra per month for connectivity this is still a discretionary device you think people will opt for that instead of upgrading right now. does this flatten out the super cycle a bit, because people have the ability to decide, i'm going to get a watch this year and not going to upgrade my phone?

>> i guess just to start with the actual iphone cycle here, if we kind of look at this cycle and compare it to the previous record-setting cycle, that being three years ago with the iphone 6, we are talking about a much large he installed base. we don't need a massive super cycle to get to the shipment levels that the street is looking at when you look at where the asps are with apple increasing the lower end devices, i really do think people are going to pay up for this higher price device as far as the watch, i do agree it is more limited to the earlier adopters it is the product i am most excited about. the fact that they were able to price that under $400 and keep it with an all day battery life. i think a lot of consumers are going to be tracted to it. we think potentially $20 million in shipments for the watch is more than doable >> it is a very interesting product for emergency use if you

are out running and you don't have your phone or whatever reason you have left your phone behind let me ask you about revenues, amid where are they now overall for apple and where do you see them in six months or a year from now? this new suite of higher products would give revenue at the very least a very big lift >> actually, if i had to think about consensus models that people have, 85 million units for december, the asp number is going to go much higher. i think the asp, the mix, might be more "x" heavy versus not i think you could very comfortably over the iphone cycle look at double for some growth numbers the model versus the streets are looking at 10% we drive a very healthy revenue as we go forward >> if the phone is $1,000,

angelo, does that mean apple makes even more on that phone? restaurants work the opposite way. the cheapest pasta plate often gives you the biggest margin versus the very expensive steak. where are they going to make the most money our view is apple kind of manages these product launches and pries these products based on capturing the margins they need to get. obviously, we have the higher component price was higher memory prices. the old led screens. we expect themto price at gros margins in the high 30, low 40% range. they will get those margins overall. it will lead to higher profitability from the higher selling prices >> amid, we talk about the phone and how much it will cause people to upgrade. a lot of the new apps and development kits will not be able to be supported by the new phones a lot of the phones break down

and stop working >> you are absolutely right on that 700 million iphone devices are used and 300 million are iphone 6 success. they are about 2 1/2 to 3 years old. they are ready to get upgraded you can't run things like ar, a killer app that will get doubled up on the system had apple launched any product at this point, there is enough of a reason that there would be an upgrade cycle i think a.r. would be the one new thing this phone has that others don't that could force upgrades >> amit, angelo, thank you both. news alert in the bond market everyone borrowing money for 30 years. 30-year bonds up for auction rick santelli is tracking it at the ame. what's the demand like >> demand is straight up for the dutch auction. it was a charlie minus arguably, that is the best to

breath not a great set. 56 billion supply done the 12 billion, 29 month, i gave it a grade of c minus. 2.79 was the yield that was basically the high with the issue market, a tail, a third of a basis point if you look at the internals, 2.21 to cover. close to 2.8 to cover. 58.8 on indirect that's the softest since november of '16. not that far from the 63% average. the thing that was spot on was direct at 6.8% so it is done. not only was it a rough three auctions, but there is no noticeable response after supply usually, you get a move after supply the investor didn't seem interested in the concession that pushed yields up to buy in, which might be a statement about future path of rates in the treasury complex tyler, back to you >> rick, thank you very much rebuild or walk away that's a question many

homeowners face in the wake of harvey and irma. what it could do to the housing market we will explore that still ahead. bubble or no bubble, one of the big debates yesterday. what the smartest aibrnson wal street say right now that's next.

welcome back to "power lunch. the most influential people came to the together for cnbc's delivering alpha many headlines, are we in a bubble or not? leslie is here >> the bubble question was a big one at yesterday's "delivering alpha. jamie dimon called bitcoin a fraud and julian robertson, who is credited with calling the tech bubble of the '90s said the stock market is getting into bubble territory here is what he told our kelly evans. >> i think we need to appreciate and go up. i think we are creating a bubble >> a bubble in the market, in the stock market >> yes, ma'am. >> lee on cooperman was a bit more optimistic about the equity

market, saying they are in a fair but full evaluation and priced to appreciate in line with earnings. >> cooperman >> it was a little bit like somebody had a foot on the throat of the economy and that foot has been taken off the throat of the economy. people are more optimistic about their business outlook, whether it is small business, large business i think it is constructive you have to be careful that we don't become too exuberant in our evaluation of the future >> cooperman said it is bonds in a bubble, not stocks, guys >> thanks very much. appreciate it. let's bring in bruce mccain, chief investment strategist with key private bank and david katz, to discuss this topic more bruce, let's start with you. bull markets or bubbles pop when a couple of things happen. one is interest rates rise steeply. that doesn't seem like it is in the cards right now. number two, a recession is impending. that doesn't seem like it is in

the cards right now. stocks can stay highly priced for a long time without being a bubble or without deflating, right? >> absolutely. more over, they can continue to rise as long as earnings growth continues to fuel the bull market that was based upon the improvement in the fundamentals. so from that standpoint, you have got to recognize the risks of higher valuation. be very, very careful not to sell too early, particularly because there tends to be a blowoff at the top and it is often hard for people that have sold off based on valuation to avoid the temptation to rebuy closer to the top and slide down the other side with everyone else >> what are the major assumptions, david, on which this rally has been built? which ones are in your view the most vulnerable assumptions? i'm thinking there is an interest rate assumption, a growth assumption and there is a tax relief assumption that lower rates are going to come to american businesses. what happens if that doesn't

occur? what halving ppens to stock mar sns. >> the economy is generally good a number of the government's policies in terms of business are allowing businesses to do better the ceos and cfos are the most upbeat about the economy than they have been in a long time. they are about 18 times the earnings we would agree with cooperman's assessment if the economy continues to grow, stocks can continue to grow one thing we point out, growth stocks are at about 30 to 40 times earnings we think they are very richly priced and are vulnerable to the pullback there are a lot of values. we any that's a very good place to put money regardless of what your outlook for the market is >> the other thing that cooperman said, that leslie highlighted, he doesn't think stocks are in a bubble but

thinks that bonds are in a bubble do you agree with that >> i am not sure we would necessarily label it a bubble. we throw that term around without necessarily making important distinctions bonds are far more expensive and make equities look cheap by comparison for that reason, you remain levered to equities and the fundamental improvement david talked about >> you said you would lean away from high priced growth stocks and towards some value choices like what? >> we like the financials, companies like bbt and wells fargo we think are well positioned advertisers, wpp is about 12 times earnings place over 4% yield, a good place. we think energy is going to be a better place our favorite there would be occidental and exxon >> bruce mccain, david katz, thanks very much for your help today. credit, computers and cancer treatment, the good, the bad, and the ugly in today's trade.

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at a conference leaving investors optimistic on to the bad, western digital down by about 4.5% it lost out on the bidding for toshiba's chip unit led by bain capital paying $19 billion after earning the day in the green, an ugly day for equifax that stock down 9% the ceo apologizing in an op ed. congress is gearing up for hearings picking up the pieces. some florida keys residents returning to their homes or what's left to them for the first time plus, the impact on the house can market how harvey and irma could trigger a massive new wave of mortgage delinquencies president trump holding bipartisan meetings today and tonight trying to get a deal on tax reform done. what will get done we'll ask white house dgbuet directory, mick mulvaney he is going to weigh in right here on power lunch. don't move (baby crying)

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hello, everyone. i'm sue herera here is your cnbc news update for this hour. florida's governor, rick scott,

is busy surveying the damage across his state he took a boat tour on the black creek river in middleburg, which crested on tuesday he said his main goal is saving lives and getting power restored as quickly as possible >> quite a few people were rescued from their homes it is horrible when you see this sort of flooding you feel so sorry for these families my prayers go out to them. they can get their -- that the water will go down as fast as possible, get their houses cleaned out and get their power on my expectation for the whole state is we have to get our power back >> under the direction of fema, the u.s. military is bringing food, water and supplies to the u.s. virgin islands. marines are helping to clean up debris and deliver supplies via amphibious landing kraft on a st. thomas beach eight ships and "the abraham lincoln" are assisting in the efforts. >> how about this neighbor

helping neighbor a nunn yielding a chainsaw was busy clearing the debris sister margaret ann of the nunns down in that area of south carolina that's the news update this hour she looked pretty good with that >> she looked like she was ready. >> she knew es actualxactly whaa doing. she is the principal of the local high school in that particular air why, the catholic high school. >> remember when everybody said the nones used to wrap you on the knuckles with rulers maybe she is getting some of those things ready for that. thank you, sue florida has seen its fair share of destruction, nowhere more so than the florida keys. here is some video showing the extent of the mess that hurricane irma left behind in the keys it looks like a devastated war zone some residents there are now beginning, just now beginning to return to their homes. >> the destruction of homes

takes a huge toll on people and families, first and foremost the lost of homes maybe make its mark on the mortgage market as well diana olick is here to put the two together >> new math shows that harvey's hit to mortgages could be four times worst than originally predicted, because of additional flooding and increased size of fema disaster zones. if you use katrina as a guide, the housing damage from harvey could mean that as many as 300,000 borrowers could become dill l delinquent on their loans and 160,000 on seriously delinquent. they compared harvey and katrina. mortgage dellinquincies in mississippi and texas.

if rebuilding costs more than the principle in their homes, they might decide to walk away tur turning to florida and irma, it was a wind storm there are 280 million mortgage p properties, twice as many as harvey total unpaid mortgage balances is $370 billion. borrowers in florida also have much less home equity than those in houston remember, the foreclosure crisis if the math doesn't work for them, they could also walk away. back to you. >> those are pretty telling numbers, diana >> are you going to say something? >> i was going to ask diana. i would imagine in order to see the full impact whether or not people walk away it will take what, 90 days? >> fannie mae, freddie mac, fha, they are all giving homeowners a

broadlyway in theleeway the mortgages bankers association of what to do. they are going to give them a leeway it comes down to how much it will cost them to rebuild. if they have to shell out $50,000, $100,000 to rebuild or fix their homes, that's more than they have in their homes already, then they could decide to walk away or at least go delinquent on their home loans >> the cash flow you have to pay the mortgage and to fix the house and pay to live somewhere else in the time a tripling almost of your costs. thanks, diana. how could a potential surge following harvey and irma affect the housing market good to have you here. thanks for having me >> how bad do you think this could get? have you rn aun any numbers as o

how many might walk awhich aay d what the implications would snb. >> it is too soon to tell. it is difficult for homeowners to leave their home and up root their families and move somewhere else only time will tell at this point how the whole process will work with submitting insurances and getting your costs covered and what you have to pay out of pocket versus what help you can get when it comes to fixing up your home again. we do know specifically in florida given that a lot of the damage was wind-related, not flooding related, although there was some flooding, hopefully, damages there aren't quite as extensive as they were in houston. people won't have to dig quite as deep to fix up their homes. we do know that waterfront properties specifically are very much in demand so we do think that the land will keep its value and thir is going to be a lot of demand for these homes. hopefully, a lot of people will not have to walk away from their

properties and find it more advantageous to fix them up and keep them as their property values will once again bounce back from this disaster. >> you do highlight the possibility that homes on the coast tend to be more expensive. maybe the individuals are upper middle class and not subject to the same constraints as middle class or lower middle class who might face the dilemma of just not having enough cash to pay the mortgage and find a place to live and rebuild at the same time so maybe that eases part of the head wind when it comes to possible delinquencies >> keep in mind. work with a lender they are being much more flexible trying to accommodate people as they are trying to make their payments and come up with the money to prepair their homes. >> when we look at these zones, charleston, prehurricane hugo in 1989, hurricane sandy on the coast, we have all these things. is there ever going to be a time when coastal living is not

desirable? people say it is just not worth it that every ten years, my house and my life is at risk will it just to your point always go up you have to live near the water. >> so far, i any we have proven that we have very short memories when it comes to hurricane impact i think people find it extremely desirable to live along the coastlines when we have seen these impacts from hurricanes, we have actually seen some interesting effects where homes become more valuable people invest more money to rebuild them properties and whole communities go up in values. you end up having nicer home that is are fixed up to a better degree that are more up to code or better able to withstand winds and floods people do return and they find these to be very desirable neighborhoods. some people do get displaced that cannot afford it. we saw some of that. a lot of communities hit were lower income versus florida and houston might be a little bit

different there. >> it was counterintuitive what you said there appreciate it. >> of course so for home builder stocks, let's bring in susan mcclorey for home builders, i would imagine this would delay closings and delay entire projects that just pushed out to q-4 from q-3? >> yes, we do. for the builders specifically, we expect you will see lower growth because communities were closed local builder operators were out because of the storm and buyers were as well that's going to be the more immediate term impact you will see. you also will get those closings we expect the builders will largely make those up in the fourth quarter >> i would imagine for the building product companies, this is a potential boon for business >> it could be a help in terms of underlying volumes.

it does take about four to six months before we see that coming through. homeowners have to go through an insurance process and get their arms around the damage therefore, we will wait until next year to see how it comes through. something to note is that part of this is dependant on capacity, how much industry decides to bring on and that will really kind of help in terms of volume versus price and how all that comes together next year >> susan, top picks. pulte as well as owens corning, mohawk thanks so much for joining us. we do appreciate it. >> thank you the president cozying up to leading democrats. we have seen more bipartisanship in the last few weeks in comparison to the last 16 years. is trump's blue bear hug enough paedet tax reform ss white house mick mulvaney will join us next live.

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welcome back to "power lunch" tax talks center at the white house today. with trump's bipartisan reach, will a deal get done live at the white house, budget director, mick mulvaney. >> reporter: a lot going on here at the white house i am here with director mick mulvaney let me ask you a couple of questions. we are seeing something here at the white house we haven't seen in a long time a little glimmer of bipartisanship the president is going to have a meeting with some bipartisanship people and you are going to a dinner with schouman and pelosi. what is going on >> i think the president is sending a clear message. he wants to look at how to get things done. he is not looking at washington through a partisan lens much anymore. he is looking through a lens of, how do i get things done if i get them done through republicans or democrats, that's

good too get things done. >> democrats would say he came into office looking at a partisan lens. >> i think he is frustrated, as many people are, including many in the republican base, frustrated with how slowly things are going here it is mid-september and the senate hasn't passed a repeal or replacement for obamacare. we haven't gun the tax we have slowed down for thing in the hill the president doesn't like that very much. he is a man of action, driven by results. he is looking for folks that will help him get things accomplished >> this tax proposal is going to be released on the 25th. what is going to be in there can you give us a hint on carried interest that's watched by a lot of hedge funds. >> we have between the white house and folks on the hill a general understanding of basic principles what's one of them >> we want the corporate tax rate reduced we want it to be 15% if you go down the other list of

basic principles, carried interest is on the table think i there is a consensus it should go away in parts. there are some folks that are pushing for it, myself included, to get away with carried interest that is not a final product. we will go through this process. some could see some higher taxes. carried interest is something the president has talked about since the campaign it needs to be looked at very, very closely how about the treatment of pass-throughs and partnerships that affects a lot of accounting firms and people like arky texts. >> pass-throughs are very difficult situation where if the corporate rate is here and the individual tax rate is here, which is what we have here, there is an arbitrage opportunity between those two things and that opens the door for fraud and abusing the system and people gaming the system it is very hard to deal with there is a reason we don't deal with tax reform very often it is not easy to do >> you told me off the air that the president has asked you to

keep focusing on the idea of a 15% corporate rate is that realistic, though? you are a numbers guy. you know how this works. is that rate ultimately going to be the corporate tax rate in the united states of america >> hope so >> it is realistic to work for tlar is absolutely no question the president pointed out to me, he is correct by the way, in china, our primary international competitor or one of them, certainly, some of the corporate tax rates on specific industries are already 15%. how do you expect us to compete with other nations across the world when we have tax rates that are much higher than theirs we want to see a corporate rate that brings companies back to the united states and brings companies here for the first time this is an american jobs program by getting this corporate tax rate down to 15% yes. it is very clear to me we are still pushing for that >> give me a peek at your agenda going into this dinner at the white house with schumer and pelosi, democrats. you are trying to reach out to them on tax reform >> yes

>> is there one or two ideas you could throw into this bill that you think might bring some democrats across that won't necessarily cost you a lot of republicans. >> i hope so that's one of the questions i think we will raise with some of the democrats that are here. can you get to yes >> keeping in mind that that 15% corporate tax cut is a central piece of what the president wants. one of the questions i'll be asking is, can any democrats ever support that? democrats say the corporate tax is a tax cut for the top 1%. if they can't talk themselves out of that box, it will be very difficult to work with them. >> if you work with the democrats, are you worried about losing the republicans, if you are too close with pelosi and schumer? >> that's how to get things past we are interested in the largest tax reductions and the most sweeping tax reforms we don't want to win the argument and lose to make

dramatic improvements. we will work with anybody that makes us do that >> we are looking at an early invite list. one name i didn't see on the early list is gary cohen is gary cohen coming to this dinner >> i am on the invitee list but not an inviter gary is heavily involved with this i just had lunch with gary we talked about some of the work he did yesterday he spent most of the day with the senate budget committee. we could go into the weeds if you want the budget process is closely tide to the tax reform project he was at dinner last night wit the six senators he is still heavily involved in the process z who is leadi >> who is leading this effort? >> go back several months. it is a good question. thank you for that from the very beginning, it was secretary mnuchin leading on the dead ceiling and myself on the funding issues and taxes was

split between mr. kohn and mr. man manushin still a team effort. >> you don't think that gary kohn is out of the loop at all >> i know he is not. >> who else is coming to this dinner, in other democrats >> i know mr. schumer will be here and mrs. pelosi i think some of their high-ranking staff will be here. i get the invites and i go i don't send them out. >> let's talk a little bit about the hurricane. your the federal numbers guy, the person or one of the people who will be trying to figure out what the federal bill is here for all of that damage we have seen in texas and florida. do you have any early inis estimates for how much this is going to cost the federal government >> absolutely not. we won't for quite some time this is not something you want to rush flew i heard a range that the total damage in texas might be between $120 billion, $140 billion

that's $20,000 million of difference we want to act responsibly and make sure the people that need the help get it and make sure the damages are real and we don't end up wasting a bunch of money on waste, fraud and abuse. we will take our time and work with the state the president and the administration has shown they will bend over wack wards to get the state everything they need they have na now fema has plenty of money to do their job. it is way too early to put specific job numbers on this is this going to be one bill and a follow-up bill >> by necessity, at least two, three, and maybe four pieces we think that fema has enough money in the coffers to get somewhere near the middle of october after we stop rescuing people search and rescue is still going on that's the right priority. that's where we are spending our time now

we will work into thingslike debris removal and trying to get folks back into their homes. next comes the beginning of the investigation about how much damage there might be. we do think there will be another vote for additional money sometime maybe middle of october. maybe you are in the first part of next year when you start talking about those big dollar figures for repair and rebuilding >> ultimately, you are going into this dinner tonight what's your one hope for a takeaway from this meeting the first real opportunity we have seen for all these leaders to get together and break bread together and go over the fall agenda do you have one thing you want to come away with this with? >> yes can the democrats vote for something the president likes. that's a real concern that the democrats might be committed in their own mind for political reasons that they simply cannot give the president a victory his first year in office, ever maybe in office. what we got last week was nice, procedural, not substantive. can the democrats work with this

president to help him get a substantive victory? >> i want to know what's on the menu for dinner when you come out of there >> thank you >> thank you so much let me toss back to you up in inglewood cliffs like some repod suggested. >> i was also very interested in what he said which is a really core question. will the democrats ever vote for anything that president trump wants and give him a victory in his first year i think that's actually a really good observation that maybe this is smoke and mirrors from the now famous chuck and nancy as president trump calls him. what happens tonight, i don't know if it's relevant or not. >> go ahead. >> i was just going to say, yesterday mr. mnuchin addressed the matter of the 15% corporate tax rate and there feels like there is a little push and pull going on there because mr. mnuchin was playing and saying and he wanted it to be low and

competitive, but he recognizeded that 15% may be beyond the grasp, the reach exceeds the grasp there by a little bit, but he wanted to be competitive. what happens with pass-through income is really critical here, as well, and as mr. mnuchin said yesterday, he's going to be -- in talking about state and local tax write-offs he said those are on the table, likely to go away and where do those two senators come from new york -- excuse me, new york and california >> because that was a giant something to the blue state democratic vote, i suspect all of you wealthy coastal liberals who voted for hillary clinton. we'll give you a little present and you can't write off those high property taxes you pay. >> i also do worry, all we say is all of the democrats and all we need are a couple and there are some in 2018 where trump took their states they may want to get onboard the tax train >> we'll have that discussion in the next hour of the show. >> i like to preview stuff

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hitting an all-time high and that's after announcing it it will buy fidelis care in the health care space. disney, boeing and chevron leading the dow. apple is the lowest performer following the product announcement yesterday. the city of light and la la land both have reason to celebrate because moment ago it became official. paris will host the 2024 summer olympics and los angeles gets the 2028 event you may have your pick of employers because job openings hitting another record high last month. there are now 6.2 million open jobs in america. here is some good news for hard-hit florida florida light and power expect power restored to nearly all of their customers along the east coast at the end of this weekend. at the white house, president trump set to hold a meeting with lawmakers from both parties talking tax reform and more and tonight he'll have a dinner with several members of his cabinet as well as senator schumer and pelosi or as he

calls them now, chuck and nancy. how cozy eamon javers is live at the white house with more on the bipartisan meetings. eamon? >> we're expecting that to start at 2:45 eastern time and 45 minutes from now we may see pictures of that. the president will have an opportunity to talk to reporters and he'll be in the room momentarily and we'll bring you anything that he says in that event. meanwhile, just a few minutes ago i had an opportunity to talk to mick mulvaney, the director of the office of management and budget and one of the figures taskeded with carrying out the tax agenda of this white house i asked him about some of the particulars and he didn't want to say exactly what's going into this deal yet and they're not ready to unveil it yet although he did seem a little bit skeptical about the idea of carried interest that loophole remaining in the tax code once they get this all said and done with ultimately, he said today's bipartisanship is about a president who is frustrated with the pace of the way that things are going in washington, who wants to get things done, who sees himself as a man of action.

i asked mulvaney if he had one goal for this bipartisan dinner tonight with nancy pelosi from the house and chuck schumer from the senate, what would that one goal be in terms of the democrats and that bipartisan outreach here's what he said. >> can the democrats vote for something the president likes? that's a real concern of mine. >> sure. >> the democrats might be committed in their own mind for political reasons that they simply cannot give the president a victory his first year in office and maybe ever in office and i'm curious to see what we got last week with the deal in the debt ceiling was nice. can the democrats work with this president to help him get a substantive victory. that's my question >> mick mulvaney portraying this as a substantive victory for president trump. ultimately, the question is whether or not democrats will want to participate in that given just how divided this town is is there any overlap at all between the two parties and we'll begin to get a sense of that later on this afternoon and then after this evening's dinner in which democrats will clearly

bring some of their agenda items to the president's attention, as well >> thank you very much, eamon. we appreciate it and elon spoke to one of the democrats leading the meeting with the white house, that would be representative josh gotheimer. what can you tell us >> i caught up with him on capitol hill before he left with the white house and this is actually his second meeting with the president in just about a week tax reform, of course, is going to top the agenda today. he said he wants to make sure that any plan benefits working-class families as well as small and medium-sized businesses, but he also said he has one very specific request for the president and that is to keep the state and local tax deduction. >> being a jersey got to be parochial for a second it's very important we don't favor one state over another the tax and local tax deduction i plan to work on right away that's a very big issue for me. >> he does support lowering the corporate rate as well though he did not give a specific number

and his caucus, the problem solvers' caucus believes that both republicans and democrats should support linking a tax reform to infrastructure he plans to make that pitch at the white house, as well >> if you're not at the table which i really believe if you're not at the table you can't be in the conversation and affect the conversation and you can't talk about what i think and making sure they're there and can't talk about the importance of infrastructure and that's why we're going todd and i am very glad that we have this new eraa of bipartisanship, and i hope it sticks >> i asked him if he agrees with the time reform and whether or not it's realistic and he said no, but hope does spring eternal on capitol hill. back to you guys. >> yes, especially after we heard from treasury secretary mnuchin. a lot of people are hoping for that elan, thanks very much. >> nick, good to have you here. >> how are you >> what do you make of the bipartisanship and the minority leader having dinner with the

president tonight? >> think it's great and something the president has to do and we're getting ahead of ourselves and i wish larry kudlow were on the show and watch the budget committee and my good friend jonathan swan gets right to that point if the republican his divisions about how to proceed with this, about getting the budget done which sets the framework for tax reform and what house conservatives are telling us is that they don't want to vote for a budget until they see the specifics of tax reform and they don't want to release the specifics of tax reform until they have a budget framework done we may get -- the latest is we'll get an outline of what the tax reform might be in two weeks so that may move that along a little bit and we don't see any details of this and we don't know where republicans will fall. >> a procedural catch 22, so to speak. >> absolutely. >> if we can talk bigger picture, we know president trump is targeting democrats who are up in re-election in states that he won handily, west virginia, north dakota, et cetera. do some of those people have to

vote for this for tax reform because of his win in those states in terms of re-election. >> a little bit of insurance remember obamacare repeal went down because they lost republicans. if you had one or two democrats on their side they may have gotten it through. it makes perfect sense to go after democrats who were in trump states to see if they can be pulled away again, we're on step two of a ten-step process we still need the budget and the details -- >> i get all of that and the proed sopr procedure. mick mulvaney was just on and he's not convinced that the democrats will want to give the president a win ever and certainly not in his first year. he's skeptical tonight, by the way, the discussion is on tax reform and chuck schumer and nancy pelosi said they're there to talk about daca and not about tax reform. is mick mulvaney just being cynical? >> listen to the language he used in that interview with eamon. will democrats come to the table and work with something that the

president supports they're putting the own us nus m and do what republicans don't want to come and do and i don't think chuck schumer and nancy pelosi are doing that. it looks perfect sense to look at the democrats who will have tough re-elections and see if they'll be someone who can work with republicans on taxes, and again, can we see what the details are? >> so on one side there are factions in the democratic caucuses of the house and senate that might lean toward supporting some form of of a tax reform on the other hands, there are factions on the republican side who might not go along with it -- with what the white house proposes anyway. >> absolutely. >> it won't be strict enough, it will add to the deficit too much. >> pay attention to what paul ryan told the associated press today when he wouldn't get nailed down on whether the tax reform wouldn't increase the deficit. not answering that question is a

huge deal to the freedom caucus. so if they bring something that's not revenue neutral to the floor you will lose republicans. >> is there one single person outside of the president who is the most important in getting this done? is it pelosi is it schumer? is it ryan or someone we're not talking about? >> oh, man, starting with speaker ryan and the house republicans and i don't want to pair with larry kudlow when he's not here and look for the framework coming out to begin to move this process forward. one thing we want to have yesterday on axe yos and the talking points republicans have on the hill, let's, limb nate deductions and let's figure out repatriation and no details on how to do that and until they start filling the blanks it's just a guessing game >> sure is nick, thanks so much thanks for helping us try to guess. the numbers impacting the hurricane economy. >> the economist suggesting the twin hurricanes that slammed the u.s. will have a sizeable negative impact on third quarter

growth most, but not all economists say harvey was the more damaging of the two storms goldman sachs taking their estimate down by 0.8% down to 2% there's macro advicers to 2.3. moody's 2.5 and oxford down by 0.4. goldman sachs saying if damages are significantly higher and if florida continues to spend on housing and investment activity we will expect additional downside to the near-term growth and we hear that from a lot of people and these are early days to estimate irma one clear positive, the u.s. economy, you can see from those numbers was doing pretty well before the hurricane hit and gdp declines are to the old 2% trend and above still and most economists see the fourth quarter getting a boost as rebuilding begins. these are setting a benchmark, guys and we know the data will come in and it will be affected by the storms and this is what we'll look for and the street will not be bothered them.

>> i want to ask you and you're close enough to punch me, so please don't does this wipe out third-quarter numbers for anything, economically or earnings wise? do we get a pass on it because the numbers will be so messy >> in the old days i would say, but people are sophisticated now and they're modeling these changes and the hits to gdp are saying okay, my new benchmark is 2.5 and i think the economy is doing better and if it's down towards two maybe the economy is weaker. >> thanks steve. >> sure. all right. the major stock averages trading a little narrow range, but a number of stocks ask sectors are moving fairly large. this hour, bob ps annie isani is tracking them at the nyse. >> let's call this a pause after a two-day rally. take a look at the s&p 500 we are up 1.5% and that's a nice move up and remember, he are at historic highs brian's right, we've had some

breakouts and first retail all right. you heard it before, but retail is in one of those faces where everything is up nordstrom is specific and there's private talk out there and not confirmed there, but that's what's happening. l brands and gap, j.c. penney and ross stores, a lot of the retailers up 4%, 5%, 6%. another group, and this is the third time this year they're picking at the bottom of energy and with oil at $49 we have marathon, apache, halliburton hess all up 4% or 5%, as well. another group that was in a mini rally that are pausing are the bank stocks and we saw bank yields moving up and let's call this a split on most of the bank stocks and all of them are up 2% or 3%. the bo om littom line, it's a consolidation and after the two or three days that's a good sign >> thank you very much, bob pisani. what's coming up on "power lunch," cord cutting and how the media companies are dealing with it nordstrom shares are popping and bringing other retail names higher, as well and making lawyers obsolete

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this year to 22.2 million. that's about 7 million more people than it previously projected. emarketer isn't referring to the number of subscribers or households, but rather the total number of individuals without access to a pay tv bundle. a group of four roommates decides not to pay for cable that is four cord cutters. for fewer viewers, emarketer cut the spending forecast and predicting will grow just half a percent this year. just yesterday brian roberts ceo of cnbc's parent comcast reassured restors after comcast warned it will lose as many as 150,000 video subscribers this quarter. roberts saying the trend is stable and 50,000 subscribers lost in the last 12 months and knowing that higher ad prices will offset tv declines and other media giants are working on alternatives to the traditional bundle, as well and goldman sachs' conference today,

via com's bob bachus is working on a new content bundle that doesn't include sports and fox's executive chairman lackland murdoch says they will offer content direct to consumer we'll see how these new options impact the cord-cutting numbers. back to you. >> thank you >> the question may be this. what happens with the so-called skinny bundle ends up costing just as much as basic cable or get worse? >> principal analyst as well as los angeles times writer stephen battaglio. none of us are coming from a neutral position we have a varied interest in this, and i don't want to be a homer for the industry we're seeing a lot of cord cutting, no doubt, but populations are growing and companies like comcast, our parent are starting to tie in phones with cable tv with a smart thing to do. do you ysee the trend slowing

down or continuing and accelerating >> we see more and more people having more and more options to get the programming they want without having a traditional relationship with a cable or satellite provider now if you want to go all-digital, you have lots of different live tv alternatives and you also have the entertainment channels that people have been using like netflix, amazon and hulu and they keep ramping up the content. for the sconsumer, the roads ar leading more in the digital drakz than traditional. >> if you pay for hulu and netflix and this and that, at some point why don't you just pay for cable and get them all >> well, it's an interesting point, and i don't think that cost saving is necessarily the biggest motivator to cord cutting. i think it's more choice, and having the content you want on

the device you want at the time you want and frankly, it's the fact that people are paying for stuff that they don't get on the cable bundle so by doing it in a little bit more of an a la carte fashion at least they're feeling they're getting what they pay for even if what they pay for is comparable to what they have been. >> stephen, within the past week or so, we've had two wireless service providers offer free subscriptions to netflix and that would be t-mobile and hbo, and that would be at&t announcing that yesterday, and i'm wondering, is this conditioning people to say, you know what? i don't need cable i can watch. i can binge. i can have my unlimited data plan and have free hbo and netflix and watch on my device why do i need a box? >> well, i think it's really the best advertising you can do is to offer a free sample and get that consumer hooked i mean, hbo is such a powerful brand in our culture and it has

tremendous cultural currency and you only have 50 million households getting it. so obviously, at&t sees a lot of room there to grow and they're going to use this new alliance and the ownership of time warner to expand that i think that netflix as well, once you get people in there and once you get them to try it. after a while, they're just going to depend on it and passively take it. they're made to be one show that they watch that they have that service for and they're going to keep it. however, i do fall on -- i tend to side with brian on this i think that there is a limit to how many services that people are going buy and then after a while you'll do the math and say, well, i can subscribe to cable and i can get in all these devices and maybe i should stick with that and some people will come to that conclusion. >> usually the buffet is cheaper than if you buy every single

item on the buffet, a la carte paul, which of the cable brands seem to be in the strongest position because they stand for something? in other words, it would seem to me that some of the secondary channels are highly vulnerable to losing not only subscribers, but advertisers. what say you >> i think it comes down to content and to stephen's point, hbo is a huge brand, show time, and disney is now going to start offering its own streaming service and espn, abc, and the brands that have the content that people want to and feel that they need to watch are the ones that are going to be in the driver's seat as they make this transition. >> what about the time, guys, quickly, to phones the point i tried to make in the beginning and not towing the line for the parent company. i use them at home so i know this $45 a month will get you unlimited cell phone usage on a

verizon network, but only if you're a comcast xfinity customers so if you cut prices on the phone side it may make up for what people see as expensive on the cable side. that's why we're seeing deals between phone companies and cable companies. >> think cable companies have to become a lot more aggressive in marketing the value of a cable subscription you have a cable subscription and you can use it across all different devices and use it on the phone and get phone service. i mean, that really has to hit home, and i think people have to start doing the math and showing the consumer that there is still value in this product. >> paul, stephen, thank you both very much. well, speaking of media, tomorrow do not miss two big exclusive interviews on "squawk on the street. first verizon's lowell mcadam and les moonves will join us and it will start at 10:30 a.m.

eastern times. we'll ask them, guys, what's the future of tv what will the chat be? >> it's interesting what battaglio said that they had to make the case for value and we were given regional monopolies because it was so expensive to lay out cable and they said you can have this one region to yourself and have competition. >> you didn't have the world of the apps. >> and you need to have a cable subscription to activate most of these apps now anyway. >> you've got to have broadband, right. >> you also have to have at least a pay plan on a lot of these to log in to some of these apps and if you're going to get a $45 all you can eat cell phone bill it reduces the cost perspective. there are a lot of stuff to work out. >> the triple play as they call it, remember >> yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. look, it says here look at the s&p retail atf do that right now. look look right there there it is, up 5% in a month and today getting a boost from nordstrom. more on that coming up, plus

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rocketing higher today and bringing the retail sector along with it. courtney regan is joining us with behind the move. >> according to sources the nordstrom family is close to partnering with private equity fund leonard green to help finance a deal to take the retailer private remember, nordstrom announced its intention to go private in june the sources tell cnbc.com that nordstrom is talking to len adgreen about contributing $1 billion and lining up $7 to $8 billion in debt financing from banks. if it comes to fruition, the nordstrom family would like to retain control of the company. the group collectively owns more than 31% of shares right now the possibility of a deal going to go private is boosting stocks of other department stores like macy's and j.c. penney, but many aren't so sure it will ultimately work out or if it does, it will be at a premium to nordstrom's current value. our report does also suggest that nothing is finalized at

this point, but the hope is helping to lift shares a couple of other retail storylines lifting stocks we should mention, target shares up on a new tv star chip and joanna gaines and finish line shares up 8% after a price target increase by susquehanna and finish line, the shares have been under pressure since the earnings reports. >> we talked about finish line, brian did in "street talk" and part of the call was the notion that it would be bought. >> yeah. >> this could be like the linens 'n things going away that sort of impact on the sector >> and i think that's a really good point we talk a lot about the death of retail i don't think retail is dying and i think retail is changing and it's very hard to be a public retailer when you have to make drastic changes like big investments. sometimes shareholders don't reward you for doing that. they're seeing it more as desperation than of growth or an opportunity to fix what's wrong. >> does the nordstrom family not

want to deal with the public markets? >> that's a great question if you were them -- >> would you >> no. no no no >> exactly and even if you go back to what ron johnson was trying to do with j.c. penney, if maybe they'd taken it private maybe it could have worked a little bit they would have had more time. >> that was the point that jim coulter made yesterday at alpha at lunch that the public markets are under pressure because companies don't want to go public. >> right >> or they want to sell to a private company. >> that's right. >> if you think of a company like amazon, obviously, we know they're very different, but shareholders are rewarding the innovations they're doing and that's not always the case with some of the other retailers and they're getting punished for things that may help them in the long run, but it may cause them short-term pain. >> maybe this is off-topic for the discussion, but i hear a lot of people complaining about etfs now because if you just sell an etfs, and you're dumping etfs and say all retail is dead and let's just sell etfs and if you're in it retail or

otherwise, your stock may go down regardless of how you're executing. you could be the greatest management team in history and because you're in a bunch of etfs that everyone else is selling. >> walmart would be the biggest in the etf and walmart is doing well this year >> there's the other side to that >> theoretically -- >> someone just shrieked over there because of the eetfs. >> i don't think management matters anymore. not much >> interesting >> interesting conversation. >> there will be more to talk about. this is not over >> thanks, court >> let's get over to sue herera for the headlines. >> thanks very much, melissa here's what's happening at this hour, everyone house speaker paul ryan telling reporters that republicans will soon unveil their plan for the first major overhaul of the tax code since the reagan presidency >> this is the beginning of the process. it's the beginning of a very important process, and

overhauling our tax system and giving middle-class families a much-deserved break, but we'll do it no matter what >> target is recalling about 175,000 dressers after a dozen reports of them tipping over or collapsing the recall involves room essentials four-drawer dressers sold in three colors the dressers were sold at target from january of 2013 through april of 2016. and pete domenici, the former republican senator of new mexico has died. he became a power broker in the senate for his work on the federal budget and energy policy he served six terms in the senate beginning in 1972 pete domenici was 85 years old that's the cnbc news update this hour melissa, back to you >> thank you very much, sue herera we are 90 minute away from the closing bell on wall street. stocks are little changed. although we did manage to hit a new intraday high on the s&p 500

and we're at 25 and change on the s&p. the nasdaq is down by just about a quarter of a point and the dow is in the green right now. the oil markets are closing for the day and let's get to don at the cnbc commodity desk. >> energy stocks among the best performers because oil is up pretty well here if you look at the highs of the day we'll close up at that level up by 2% west techs, tech west texas, were looking at double the gains and things are off in the green after the international energy agency raised their outlook for global oil demand this year and there was a reason for weaker oil with the u.s. information information administration or eia weekly dating showing a much better than expected build in oil theec woo ending september 8th showed 5. 9 million barrels and expectations were for a bill of 8.2. gasoline stockpiles dropped by the largest amount on record followed by 8.4 million barrels and oil and supply and demand dynamics are being muddied by

the effects of hurricanes harvey and irma you have the refineries getting back to normal operations and questions about demans for fuel in parts of the gulf coast and florida regions. as these supply and demand dynamics plays out, it will be interesting to see if it bears ought with the supply picture snoop. white house press secretary sarah sanders speaking about president trump's bipartisan meeting on tax reform. we also have new detiles whether or not gary cohn will attend tonight. eamon javers is at the white house with details eamon? >> that's right. the white house press briefing is still ongoing now here at the white house, and we are learning from nbc news's peter alexander that gary cohn will, in fact, attend that dinner tonight with the bipartisan leadership including chuck schumer and nancy pelosi, the two democratic leaders who are coming over here for a rare, bipartisan breaking session at the white house with the president tonight. so that's interesting because gary cohn had not been on some of the initial lists of people coming to the dinner that we saw earlier in the day now we are told he will be here.

sarah sanders in the briefing room just now pushing back very much on this idea that the republican ideas won't be represented in this room tonight because mcconnell and ryan, the two republican leaders are not going to be at the dinner saying that the president himself is the leader of the republican party. so, of course, republican ideas will be at the table i am told that this is going to be a wide-ranging discussion on the entire fall agenda tonight, not just tax reform and also things like the d.r.e.a.m.ers and where we go on a whole host of other issues affecting the government, guys back over to you >> when you read the descriptions coming from chuck sh schumer and nancy pelosi, they said it was just about daca. >> i asked mick mulvaney exactly that question a little while ago. he's the director of the office of management and budget and i asked what is the agenda for this is it daca or tax reform he said the president's primary focus for the fall arc jenda is tax reform this is a tax reform meeting

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hit extraordinarily hard by hurricane irma the storm killing at least 43 people as it crossed the caribbean and now a week after it passed, the islands are recovering from catastrophic damages to homes and businesses. though aid is being delivered there are reports of lines of up to three hours for supplies of food, clean water and fuel joining us is kenneth mapp, the governor of the u.s. virgin islands. our sympathies you and all of the people of the virgin islands, you have the basics, food, shelter, power and water not really present there

what percentage of the population of st. john particularly and st. thomas are homeless right now >> caller: well, let's go with what percentage of the population of st. thomas and st. john have severed damaged homes and damaged homes in terms of structures because the folks are still back in place. i have between the two isle around i believe i've got 400 people in shelters, 400 to 500 people in shelters the -- the islands, those two islands in st. john, more than st. thomas took a devastating blow from hurricane irma, blew homes out and tore roofs off and breached walls and took out windows, severe. a number of homes were unscathed and a number of buildings still have some roofs intact and so folks are doubling down and staying with neighbors. >> right >> and families and that type of stuff. >> are you getting the federal help you need? what is the military, the navy,

the army, national guard presence and how and what are they doing >> caller: they are mobilizing heavy. we are getting provisions of water, food, and they're coming into the island. we are opening that faucet more. we had administrator brock long here yesterday we've got the u.s. army corps of engineer general and u.s. coast guard commander and the chief of the national guard bureau on the ground in the virgin islands today. so the assets of the federal government is coming in. the people of st. johns and lines were opening up more distribution systems, but the bottom line is we do need help in the u.s. virgin islands and we're reaching out to communities and wanting to get more line men sent in to help restore the power distribution system the lines on st. thomas and 90% down on st. john 50% down we brought some power up on st. thomas, but this is going to be,

i'm telling my citizens and my residents this is going to be a long haul, but we're going to make it happen >> yeah. >> we went through hugo. >> you are the u.s. virgin islands. do you feel abandoned by the united states? >> definitely not. definitely not i spoke twice with president trump. i've been speaking with members of his cabinet aid is here. assistance is here mobilization is here it's rolling it out. it's a cat 5 event and so we're just trying to manage the expectation in terms of getting to everyone and every corner of the island we are making sure the security apparatus is in place. no -- there's no question that the federal response has been awesome in this event. i see the folks showing up, and i see the military people setting up their command centers and rolling out work so i have to thank the president. he indicated he'd be here in the next five or six days to see the federal mobilization of work and see the devastation.

>> it looks like an amphibious landing from some of the video that we have seen. very quickly, are any of the large retailers that we think of like home depot, costco and others are present i know they're not on st. john and what has their response been >> yes, well, the corporate mcand a good number of the companies changed here and have been working with us to mobilize aid and assistance we've lifted a provisions portions of the curfew the supermarkets have been opened the pharmacies are open. we've done the medevac -- and the hospital was pretty much made useless in st. thomas and we were able to fly all of those patients out and get them out of there, but the corporate companies and i believe home depot for sure is providing provisions, as well. >> all right >> so we're getting help and i'm asking folks to go to usvirecovery.org

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and chat bot without hiring a lawyer it's the brain child of a student. this bot is just the beginning of his bold plan to make the law free for everyone. josh, it's great to have you on "power lunch." thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me. i think it's the beginning offic maing the law free and the end of equifax. >> let's first talk about how this can be used to sue equifax. what exactly do you do and how does this chatbot work >> it's a unique legal approach. unlike a class action, consumers in all 50 states where equifax does business can take them to small claims court this is a great approach because it means that equifax can't pay lawyers. lawyers are often not allowed in these proceedings and the judges are very reasonable. so you can a button, use my software and file the necessary documents to take them to small claims court and get up to $25,000 for doing so >> you do still need to go to physically to the courthouse and you still need to pay a filing

fee and this doesn't completely remove the onus on the person who want tos sue, kwi fax. >> that's true i'm looking into even doing that for the consumer at the moment you do have to pay the filing fee and go to court, however the judges are very reasonable it's not like the supreme court. when you go, if you argue that you've been hacked as a result of the breach these judges will hopefully apply the state level negligence laws and give you compensation >> what if you haven't been hacked by the breach what if you're just worried, does it help you then? >> i think it's best to wait and see what happens i think there are a lot of people who are trying to get money for nothing, but there are also a lot of people, me included, i was actually hacked just the other day, probably because of the equifax breach. i was an equifax customer and said this is from my own personal experience. i think i'm trying to help the people hit hardest first >> how often have you filed small claims suits, josh you're the founder of chatbot, you can sue everybody.

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do >> there is, there is a tremendous amount on the table there is a huge opportunity, the deal maker make deals there is a lot of forces >> mules too >> budgets, lots of things lots of moving parts it is going to be a fascinating fall >> fascinating dinner tonight to hear about tomorrow. watching big point today and check please >> here we go. >> last down about 10% since jamie diamond called it a fraud yesterday. coming out today saying that it has some similarities to a pyramid scheme tonight we're talking to john maciowa if i, he says bitcoin will reach $500,000 within three years or eat a body part his words, not mine. >> and he had a specific body part, but we're a family show. >> it doesn't matter >> cleveland indians going for a 21st win in a row right now. they are leading 5-3, is that

still the score? bottom of the eighth it would be 21 wins, would break a more than century old record >> there's a debate, the cubs in '35 won 21 straight games, 1916, 28 straight games, but there was a tie in the middle of it. so they really, the streak is the cubs >> that would not be a win to me tie is not a win >> they ran out of -- no lights and no lights at the time. >> we have to go closing bell starts right now. you definitely have to go with the cubs streak, that was consecutive games on consecutive days i digress. >> welcome to the closing bell everybody. i'm kelly evans. >> and i'm bill grif fifth right now president trump is holding that bipartisan meeting on tax reform and other key issues on the agenda he's meeting with members of the house. eight democrats, five republicans. that is bipartisan we'll get tape from that meeting shortly and bring it to you as soon a