circumvent >> he's no longer with us. if he were no, i don't think so you would think this is the kind of thing you would get people saying, look, just close the little gap in this bill. >> this is a social media campaign waiting to happen anyway, michael, thank you i'm going to get some fig newman's that does it for "closing bel"." "fast money" is starting now live from the nasdaq market site overlooking new york city's times square i'm melissa lee. tonight on "fast," billionaire investor warren buffett sounding off on the bitcoin boom. >> in terms of cryptocurrencies generally, i can say almost with certainty that they will come to a bad ending >> so does the dean of valuation agree with the oracle of omaha he'll be here to tell us what bitcoin is really worth. plus the ceo of activision,

bobby kotick, is telling us how he's turning one of the most popular games into a sports league of its own. first, the dow surging back after a spike in rates this morning. a loss is what happens when there are more sellers than buyers those losses were short-lived with the dow closing basically flat so with stocks near record highs again, we thought we would play a little mission impossible stock. your mission, should you choose to accept it, find a cheap stock trading on the s&p at its highest valuations in a decade >> we have our own tom cruise at the desk in the form of tim seymour. >> maybe rob lowe. >> jack wagner, maybe. >> we talked about if the airlines are cheap i'll leave that to them, if they're so inclined.

look at prudential financial that stock is trading ten times forward p/e. they just raised guidance recently if you're looking for places that still offer value, and potentially a rising rate environment, a name like pru will get you done. >> financials. >> with an insurance tail. >> i'm going to riff off of that i'm going to be a little bit controversial, the p/e's here are not low. but take a look at the e-tail brokers, e*trade, schwab. if rates are going up, these guys make a ton of money in that environment. that's my play >> i like where bk is going. clearly if it's a market where it's expensive, people are trading and these guys have had

a massive, massive run i think the p/e's are excessive. i'll take guy's financials ubs trades at .86 times price to tangible book. european banks don't get the same bang for their buck, although some of them with operations here do very well i think the interest rate story that was also part of today's market but we're just talking about stocks, i will say, as rates go higher in europe, european banks do better than u.s. banks europe has gotten a lot of their capital issues in order. swiss banks who are focusing on wealth management is especially cheap. then i do have to go back to the autos, i look at gm and say, somewhere here around seven times, even with a big rally in the stock, based upon recent guidance we got on 2018, i would stay right there >> auto is a tough day today >> gm, particularly nafta is what gm. i'm long gm, i do think it's

cheap. to me, the cheapest space, the airlines guy touched on it, there was recommendation change from underperform to buy on united and decent data out of united and american. i think they're cheap here, certainly relative to the market, as they should be cheap, they're cyclical, right? a lot of great things are happening in the economy, in their business they are a beneficiary of the tax situation. so i think there's room to run here i hate to say it on a day when they're up so big. >> but you've been saying it for a long time. >> i've been saying it a long time i still think they're cheap. delta, united, and american. >> mr. bill miller likes airlines as well, has liked them for some time. >> he clearly has been watching karen and tim on "fast money" at 5:00 let me talk about delta. i believe they report earnings tomorrow i also believe they're currently

trading around ten times or so forward earnings, they'll make close to $6 a share next year. they should have a bigger multiple than that even at a 11 multiple, it's a $66 stock. i'm with karen, these earnings should be good and the stocks are breaking to the upside >> i pointed this out for united, and i'll point it out for the airlines last night united was up 6.7%, the street was up 5.2. guy loves to talk about prasm, it will come in flat, it was expected to be slightly down as our friend hunter at wolff says, they may use this to set the table for 2018 i still think there are at least some choppinesses in terms of their capacity issues and efficiency issues for 2018 and it may not give you a lot of great stuff to go on even though last night's guidance was fantastic. karen talked about relative to gdp. say what you want about the airlines in terms of multiples,

but relative to a 3.5, 4% gdp economy, these are very cheap stocks they're trading as if we're going through a recession. they're not. >> it's important, cheap in value is relative in a market at record highs nobody has mentioned any dogs. nobody has mentioned stocks that have been challenged over the past year. >> ge is the biggest dog it's not cheap >> right >> it's really not >> says the owner of ge at higher prices. >> says the owner of ge. i also think this eps guidance has been washed out. and i think these guys have intentionally said, we're focusing on two or three core businesses and off we go i continue to maintain ge is very cheap that's what gives me the comfort to hold it >> it's gm that got kicked in its doggie days. >> i mentioned this a couple of

times this week, it's controversial but that's my nature, ibm. >> did you hear the warren buffett interview? >> it sounded like he was selling to me. >> it sounds like there will be big news about ibm not good >> it sounded like part of that was for taxable reasons, that's not necessarily a bad thing. >> okay. >> secondly, he bought that because of the buyback my view on this is what's the catalyst that will move ibm shares higher? they are huge in the two biggest tech trends we have coming up, ai and blockchain. why wouldn't you want some of your portfolio to be in that ibm does not get enough credit for that therefore that's why it's cheap and why i think it's going to get more expensive and this is bk is on to something, tim gave him cukudosn it a week and a half ago maybe they've finally turned this thing around and it's very difficult to be short this stock in this environment into earnings when they potentially have so there's a very good chance

ibm, i can't believe i'm saying this, will continue to run into earnings, i think it's 2 1/2 weeks. >> let me push back on this, because although i said it was a decent idea and i think it was -- >> now you walk that back? >> one of my better ideas. >> one of your better ideas, which is really troubling. no here is what i want to say about ibm. there's a tendency at a time like this to say we have to find the next thing and dig under the rubble dogs are dogs, and ibm has been a proven dog for a long time it's a company that needs to remake itself. it's engineered earnings for a long time. what they're doing in mainframe in terms of infrastructure is very good in terms of infratech. in terms of what they're doing in blockchain, i have no idea. i have to say i'm a little surprised it hasn't gotten more of a bid based on the kodak bid. >> right that's why i think they're not getting enough credit for it what ibm is doing in the blockchain space are what are

called private chains, basically like when you had the internet, you had intranets within that doesn't get a high a multiple because it may not be as scaleable as people think that being said, it's not that hard to pivot from a private blockchain to a public blockchain that's what people are missing with ibm our next guest says we might be on track for the greatest bull market ever, wow. it has been a while since we've seen julian emanuel, now chief equity and derivative strategist at bdig, congratulations >> it's been nine glorious years built on gains derived from low rates, earnings growth, and you met expansion, significant multiple expansion however, the road to 3,000 we think is going to be a little

different. we think the gains this year are going to be built on earnings growth and we don't actually need multiple expansion, because we're going to have single digit, high single digit, low double digit earnings growth bolstered by tax reform. the question is, after gains of 305%, could this end up being the greatest bull market of all time quite possibly but if that's the case, we're going to have to beat the bull market of the 1990s. however, in our view, if you keep interest rates in check, you keep this global synchronized growth metric in check and earnings growth continues apace, we think you could get there by the time this bull market has run its course >> greatest bull market ever shall we invite julian over? come on over, julian karen will bring the chair in. thank you, karen take a seat, julian. welcome to the desk. >> great to be here. >> what's the thing, though,

that could derail the greatest bull market ever >> it's a couple of things if you get too far in the ten-year, 3% is too far, the distance between where we are now and 3% is going to be a reflection of a more growth-ier metric you get too far and stocks will have to start discounting the fact that rates are higher than expected the other thing of course would be if the economy starts to turn over we don't see that. recession probabilities are very low. things are growing nicely. if that happened to happen, and the fed continued raising rates, which is how bull markets typically end, that's where we run into problems as well. >> fed missteps is probably at the top of your list of things that can go wrong. >> yes >> what's the probability of that happening >> well, you can't discount it, because if you look in the past, when you've had fed leadership

transitions, as we're about to have, markets have run into problems it happened when greenspan took over from volcker in 1987. the financial crisis happened a year after bernanke took over. markets tend to have to digest >> those weren't self-inflicted, though this would be selfself-inflicted >> the fact is, it's not just powell at the top that would be different, the whole leadership is going to change the market will have to get the confidence that the fed will keep things moving on the right track. >> julian, i've known you for a long time. hearing you this confident about markets, i mean, this is a very smart strategist, a guy who looks for what's wrong i know we talked about the fed, but isn't the fact that consumer confidence and business confidence are at record highs, doesn't that tell you that we're at extreme levels, that a guy like you that thinks contrarian is wrong, that tells me

thattings that in positioning is already here. it can't be that good. >> fair point. that's part of why we think that this year's narrative is volatility moves higher. that's a got to be a dose of reality. 2017 was too easy. the money was too fast, let's say. but for us, the fact is, is that this global synchronized growth metric, it doesn't die easily. and that's really significant underpinnings. and yes, we're worried about valuation. it's a concern every day and we get lots of questions on it but until rates really start to move, we can move higher >> it's not valuation, it's confidence, to me. people are too complacent. >> last question, julian, then we'll let you go 3%. do we hit that this year >> we don't think you do we're sort of keying off of consensus. that's around 288, 290 >> so at least another year for the greatest bull market ever?

>> that's what we're thinking. >> julian emanuel, thank you btig what do you think? >> if you look at the market today, what are the risks out there? it's the bond market we saw it this morning, bond yields up all of a sudden for the first time futures why down ten handles that was like running around with your hair on fire big news. it's not really that big news. but for this market it was big news so i agree with julian, somewhere around 3% seems to be the trigger that most people are saying, you know what, this is going to start to impact valuations, we're going to have to start taking our earnings down, start taking our targets down you might want to get ahead of it and start taking profits. when they get to 2.9 >> what have you done today? what do you think of the whole greatest bull market ever? >> i'm always long, that's my bias buy s&p puts against it, thinking the volatility will spike higher, which happens for like an hour and they expire worthless, which is okay, it helps me sleep at night.

i'm long t&t to me the biggest risk is inflation forces the fed's hand. the market is okay with what's on plan right now. >> with a spike in rates >> yes, an unexpected, significant spike in rates >> what did you do today >> a stock that fits into our earlier discussion the jnk and the hyg were to the high yield etfs, trading today and yesterday through the 50, 100, 200 moving averages that to me is showing sensitivity to credit. coming up, the dean of valuation says you can't value bitcoin. but there's one surge in cryptocurrency you can value he'll tell you what it is. plus activision blizzard is making a bet on one of its biggest games. we'll talk to the ceo. and later, one retail stock is surging and someone on this desk thinks it's the beginning of a major tnaurround.

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welcome back to "fast money. let's take a look at target, topping the tape shares soaring more than 2%

today, now up more than 6% this week after the company raised guidance after stronger than reported holiday sales are target shares finally hitting the bullseye, are they the next walmart, karen? >> i don't know, maybe i would have thought the stock would be up more today i thought that was pretty good, and they see some momentum and, you know, i don't think this is an out over their skis kind of guidance maybe there's a possibility they do better than that. it's not super cheap but nothing is super cheap right now i think it's sort of interesting right here >> forced to choose. >> another way of saying -- >> would you rather, in disguise, my little trick. target or walmart? >> tgt tgt. we sat not on this desk, upstairs >> we are upstairs >> or downstairs >> this is upstairs. there is no upstairs

>> it was 6:30 in the morning, target came out, stock was trading, i looked at you and said, don't fade this move, mel, remember that? >> yeah. >> except for a brief period of time a couple of weeks ago after they reported this, the stock has been a rocket ship no, it's not cheap, but it's cheap in comparison to walmart >> which gets to the conversation from the top of the show, is walmart value, is target a better value? >> walmart is trading at two standard deviations. walmart, its old self, didn't have this whole e commerce think that people think is going to compete with amazon. target made some noise about their ability to compete in e-commerce this is where target is cheap to its peers, relatively in line with itself. maybe that multiple needs to go higher >> there's a tiny chance that target could get acquired.

i wouldn't own it, but it is possible i wouldn't pay anything for it but that is a possibility that walmart does not have. >> for me the catalyst here, i would pick target, to answer your question. i've liked walmart quite a bit all through '17. here i think there's just more upside surprise that could come out of target. i know what walmart's strategy is, it's a good strategy but target has multiple strategies they could hit. maybe there's a bid, they my get taken over i still think they're a catalyst for 2018 patrick doyle is about to speak to jim cramer, his first interview since announcing he's stepping down from the c suite in june. i'm melissa lee. you're watching cnbc, first in business worldwide meantime here is what's coming up on "fast.

warren buffett bashing bitcoin. but after you hear what he said about internet stocks in the '90s, you might go full crypto we'll explain. plus -- >> shall we play a game? >> we shall. video game stocks are on fire. and east port could take one of them to new highs. the name when "fast money" returns.

in terms of cryptocurrencies generally, i can say almost with certainty that they will come to a bad ending now, when it happens or how or anything else, i don't know. but i know this. i get into enough trouble with things i think i know something about. why in the world should i take a

long or short position in something i don't know anything about? >> that was warren buffett sitting down with our own becky quick. this isn't the first time bust has bashed a speculative industry with sky high valuations take a listen to what the oracle of omaha said about internet stocks 20 years ago. >> i would say there's no one here that can understand some new internet company i said at the annual meeting this year if i were teaching a class in business school, at the final exam i would pass out information on an internet company and ask each student to value it and anyone who answered, i would flunk. >> go gators, by the way >> that's what papa told university students in 1998. internet stocks have come a long way since then since the tech sector makes up a large percentage of the s&p 500. is this deja vu? is buffett right about crypto? or does one of the greatest investors of all time have it gone bk, you're going to say yes, he

has it all wrong >> you know what, i'm not going to say he's got it all wrong there are parts of the crypto market that are in a speculative frenzy you're getting valuations in some of these things, i'm not necessarily talk about bitcoin, some of the smaller coins, you're starting to see speculative frenzy they don't have much behind them and they will end up bad in that particular sense an important thing to remember here is, you had a bubble in internet stocks, but it was still a transformative technology amazon, facebook, google, all came out of that era if you're looking at what's the next internet investment over a long time frame, then buffett is completely wrong >> i'm invested there. i don't know how we're doing on valuations, brian. you talk about valuations being fraught. i'm not even sure what's there i'm surprised mr. buffett didn't talk about the equities that are attached to crypto and putting valuations and why he didn't reference a kodak, which maybe

i'll look even sillier when it's 30 bucks a share, but to me, i don't understand this. i will say, and this goes back to the rbc interview we had the other night, the fact that it's conceptual, the decentralization coming from crypto is something that a lot of people have a tough time finding an explanation for. it's there aswath damodaran is a professor at nyu and joins us from california. is warren buffett right on crypto >> i think he's brushing the entire sector with too broad a brush. i don't think you can write off cryptocurrencies altogether. will it end badly for some of the people involved? absolutely, for those people who got on the bandwagon late and are playing the pricing game for some of them, it's going to end badly. but looking forward, i agree with your panel that there is a

future for fin tech. i think we mix together lots of different crypto investments in the cryptocurrency space some of them are going to succeed. some of them are going to not. i think to put them all together in one big bucket and throw them over the edge doesn't make sense to me. >> is that why you think you can value ethereum versus bitcoin? >> when i look at the cryptocurrency buckets, i see three separate buckets there's cryptocurrencies like bitcoin, which cannot be valued because they're currencies ethereum is a crypto commodity it's marketed as a lubricant for smart contracts. and smart contracts are what the fin tech, the blockchain revolution is going to deliver ethereum can become a significant part of that business and you can value it as a commodity. there are commodities that can be valued as slices of businesses to view them all as worthless

and useless is wrong >> it's karen, let me ask you something. in the original internet bubble in 2000, did you find you had the same ideas about difficulty of valuation, or were there other metrics that got you comfortable then >> you know what, i love valuing difficult to value companies it makes me strange. i get them wrong every single time >> he's the dean of valuation. >> so i valued amazon every year since '97, i bought amazon four times, i sold it four times. i didn't buy it at the right time, i didn't sell it at the right time but to me there is a way to value companies. i don't think you can walk away from a business and say i cannot understand it because the older you get, the less you'll understand if you take the buffett view, most of the world will be out of bounds for you we've got to try to value businesses even if they're young, even if they're in places where everything is evolving, everything is changing >> i want to get back to

ethereum, since you think we can value it how is it valued right now relative to how it's trading >> i think every single crypto asset is being priced right now, it's not being valued. if you ask people why they're paying what they are for any of these crypto investments, you don't get a logical answer you get an answer, i think i can make more money on this. i don't think any of these investments are being valued right now. they're being priced that's not unusual either. you could say the same thing about the dot-com sector in the late '90s. every company was priced eventually valuations matter and that eventually might be a year from now, two years from now. maybe that's what buffett is talking about when he talks about a bad end. when that valuation time comes, some of these crypto investments are the no going not going to hp they're all pricing it >> okay, they're priced. but how do you value it or have you put a valuation on it so we

can gauge what the disparity is? >> what's holding me back is i don't see a business model yet from ethereum. they're talking the talk but they're not walking the walk yet. they're talking about how they're lubricants to the smart contract business. but they're not being lucid on the way they plan to make money in that business i can't get ahead of them and create a business model for them that's not my job. so until they create a business model, i'm holding back. but i think that will be the next phase in the crypto investment market. you'll start to see people pushing these crypto investments to come up with business models, to show how they'll make money that's part of the life cycle of investments as well. >> dean, it's brian kelly. ethereum is an open source compa project, it's not a company. so they're not going to put forth a business model necessarily. part of their proposition is they're picks and shovels, you'll build on top of it. >> but eventually the picks and

shovels have to get pennies on the dollar or the picks and shovels are worth nothing. even if it's an open source model, some of the revenue generated from using those picks and shovels have to accrue to ethereum if that doesn't happen, it's worth nothing. if that does happen, it's worth something. the fact that it's an open source model, it's giving the picks and shovels, doesn't make it necessary that you will not be able to generate those cents on the dollar. >> aswath,thanks for your time always great to get your analysis >> thank you >> aswath damodaran of nyu, the dean of valuation. >> the dean. >> so do you agree in any way there's really no way to put a valuation on the cryptocurrencies >> on currencies themselves, they're notoriously hard to value, because a currency, nearly every occurrenccurrency,h u.s. dollar, the euro, is a matter of faith, can i use this

to buy something in the future it's very ditcfficult. the best way to value these is to look at them as a social network. what are the number of monthly users, am i spending time on it. the question is how much development is going on on the ethereum network or bitcoin network. those are the metrics you should use to value these >> if you put a dollar value for every traction added to the bitcoin network, how do we come up with this price of $14,395 on our bitcoin bug there? is there a price, is there market cap for volume? how do we do this? >> i would aggressively argue against the view that the dollar and the euro, you can't value them those are trade-weighted terms, there's purchasing power parity, there's all types of metrics relative to themselves but i don't think you're wrong in crypto, i really don't. i think you're right but i think the fx market is very different ahead, more bitcoin, of

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welcome back to "fast money. let's take a look at some of the hottest tech stocks of the last year no, we're not talking apple or faang stocks we're talking about gaming stocks names like -- what is that music for? >> sounds like pacman. >> mario activision seeing double >> donkey kong >> this all as esports seems to explode. julia boorstin has more. >> reporter: thanks, melissa, bobby, thanks for joining us you're at the new blizzard esports arena opening at burbank studios. i know this is a really big day as you launch your new overwatch league when will we start to see esports impact your bottom line?

>> well, i think it's a ways before we're going to see certain revenue streams. we're already seeing a lot of traction and enthusiasm from fans this is the opportunity to celebrate the very best players in the world our professional players from these 12 teams are the best overwatch players in the world it's really exciting to be able to celebrate them. >> reporter: do you think the big picture is more about promoting your games through the competition of esports or is it more about the revenue that you're going to drive through these are competitions themselves >> reporter: look, i think, you know, you have the benefit of both with 35 million overwatch players who are enthusiastic players, they're very invested in the experience of overwatch, the opportunity to have the spectator experience that is the most professional, high quality competitive experience to watch, is going to be very exciting for

people and i think that what we've already seen is a lot of traction and interest from team owners i think when you see the production values of the events themselves, they are the very, very best production values in sport. and i think you're going to see a lot of audience enthusiasm we already have fantastic broadcast partners like twitch and mlg. we already have great sponsors like hewlett-packard and intel we have licensing that is really under way. so i think all of the commercial opportunities that exist in professional sports are opportunities that are available to us also plus you have virtual items, you have, you know, over the top advertising opportunities that wouldn't exist in traditional sports so, you know, we have the best of all words, and we have an enormous fan base that we're satisfying >> reporter: your overwatch league signed a deal with amazon's twitch reportedly for about $90 million. how important is amazon and

twitch as a partner for activision blizzard? >> they're very important. i think twitch has done a great job of building out an audience and enthusiasm for esports while most of what has been available on twitch has been user generated content, you're starting to see, especially with overwatch league, highly produced professional content that we really think is going to transform the viewing experience >> you mentioned digital sales, you benefitted a lot from digital sales, one factor driving up your stock this year. how much is there room for digital revenue to grow? >> you don't sewe don't sell a o things the bulk of our revenue will continue to be digital >> reporter: meaning that everything is digital? >> we make zeroes and ones for a living that's what our enterprise does. >> reporter: speaking of digital revenue, will you accept bitcoins or other cryptocurrency

as part of those payments that consumers make >> you know, our view about payment, we have 400 million customers around the world in 196 countries. and one of the things we worked really hard to do is make sure that the payment that is the payment methodology of choice for the customer is what they have access to we're very supportive of whatever mechanism our customers choose to pay. >> reporter: sounds like bitcoins will be the next big payment method perhaps for you guys thank you so much for joining us from your new blizzard esports arena, we hope you'll come back and talk to us again after earnings melissa, back over to you. >> thank you so much, julia boorstin with activision's ceo bobby kotick >> it's expensive stock, and given the trajectory of the move, it's hard to get on back tim did a whole thing about it a

year ago >> league of legends >> how did you not know that music at the top >> maybe i did >> that music. >> it's like led zeppelin to me. >> it's almost a free option on that whole digital sports thing. you're getting tremendous upside the optionality in this stock is tremendous i think you stay with it >> tim >> if you think about what's going on in esports, it's $700 million business which is probably going to be a billion and a half in 2020 if you think about the multiples but you think about what's growing here in the demographics, so 80% of the players here are 18 to 34, apparently 65% of them actually have a job, which is also amazing to me. so again, you have people that are going to be consistent users that are going to be manic users on some level, and you're getting them young it's all changing. and i think the sports world better watch out >> and they're spending money inside what's interesting about the

bitcoin question, there are quite a few coins being created so you can buy digital currencies, cryptocurrencies, buy within the games you can buy skins within the game >> skins >> for your score and stuff like that the other thing is remember mark cuban did an initial coin offering or invested in a coin offering if you're outside the u.s., you can bet on these games >> when people ask me about skins, i get worried >> what are they >> i'm not sure. in minecraft they're always telling me i have to get a new skin >> it's your outfit that you wear >> given the potential growth, this stock doesn't seem that expensive to me. >> it could be value, even though it's skyrocketed. >> getting back to a bitcoin conversation, yes, it's extraordinary value on a metric basis relative to its growth i don't know i think that -- i mean, it's always been expensive, it deserves to be expensive this potential growth, i think it's not crazy

>> tencent owns a piece of blizzard vendi owns a piece of this space. options traders are betting on even more gains ahead let's get to mike khouw in austin, texas. >> hi there. take two interactive saw four times as many trades than puts we saw a lot of that activity on the february 1 calls, 1500 of those traded for $3.50 it's up more than 7% by february expiration, more than five weeks away the stock does tend to move on earnings with that in mind, these don't seem that expensive. at 27 times earnings, maybe it's not that expensive a stock either >> thanks, mike. for more "options action," check out the full show, friday 5:30 p.m. eastern time. coming up, patrick doyle

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if i could buy long term puts, if i could buy a five-year put on every one of the cryptocurrencies, i would be glad to do it. but i would never short a dime's worth. >> warren buffett's cryptic crypto warning if it rings true, how can you protect your profits our crypto baller is back to tell us how to protect your bitcoin. >> there are some ways to do it. warren, if you happen to buy some bitcoin, put down your cherry coke and listen to this we're talking about a hedging strategy it's very important to identify that key level you don't want to be hedging 100% of the time

you want to hedge when i think there's going to be an event you identify that key event, your trigger with the cboe contracts, there's one bitcoin per contract if i buy or sell one cboe contract, inthat means i'm protecting 1 bc worth of my portfolio. then you take off 20%. that sounds like a lot we had 1350 on february futures, the low of today to me that's that key level. that really comes in at support right there. so if it breaks 1350, i want to go with the momentum and protect my position. so for every one bitcoin i own, i'm going to sell one cboe contract and if we drop down 20%, you're talking about $10,000 roughly or so so you have profits on that whole thing. now, on this, you're not going to put a stop or protect a stop in, because remember, you're long bitcoin already

this is to protect that position >> so is it just for bitcoin only or are there other ones you can use this strategy for? >> so most of these currencies do trade with a high correlation to bitcoin, bitcoin is still the big daddy of the place sometimes that correlation breaks but in general, if you have let's say $100,000 crypto portfolio, for somebody like guy it's probably $100 million crypto portfolio, you can still use this it won't be a perfect hedge, but it will help >> the ultimate question, there's a lot of liquidity coming into the market, a lot of sophistication why just bitcoin, why not four or five or major instruments when is it happening >> you know what, i think it's going to happen very, very soon. we already have the bitcoin futures. it would not surprise me to see ethereum futures coming next i think we should have it. we need the sophistication these are hedging tools, derisking tools, volatility

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industry that needs to be consolidated they're doing it and they're growing globally of this they're doing it at a valuation that probably is commensurate with the valuation. remember, there's been a lot of volatility in the stock in the last few months. we traded it down to 165 before coming back to 200 now this stock is probably a hold with still some uncertainty. and this transition, as confident as i am that patrick doyle will engineer that, i think we need to hear more >> he's 54 years old, he says he won't retire he'll take a trip first. but he could be on the list somewhere to be another ceo who can turn another company around, a consumer company, perhaps. >> you're thinking about it. >> i don't know if there are ceo's needed at chipotle, perhaps. >> i wonder if he has a noncompete >> he may. >> if you have a talent like this i wouldn't want him out there. >> i want to listen to the interview with jim cramer, that sounds interesting >> when he did those ads in

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