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it is 5:00 a.m. and here is your top five at five. futures are flat right now one day after the dow dropped 389 more points. the dow now nearly 6% off its record high. which way will we go today we're going to find out. red flag, though, the bond market close to sending a big recession signal or is it the key things that you need to know today global hot spot, antigovernment protesters are flooding the streets of hong kong and the airport yet again. and now china is sharpening its rhetoric we'll give you a live report from the ground coming up. uber, ouch shares falling to yet another
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low. investors now down about 18% from the ipo price and it's not just uber and this is definitely not music to investors' ears, shares of chinese streaming giant ten cent are down sharply we'll tell you why onthon tuesday, august 13th as worldwide exchange begins now. ♪ get along down the road ♪ we've got a long, long way to go ♪ ♪ scared to live ♪ scared to die ♪ we ain't perfect but we try >> good morning, or good afternoon or wherever in the world you might be watching. thank you for joining us here on worldwide exchange between the continued protests in hong kong and sharp drops for big-name stocks, it could be another busy day in the global financial markets and for your money. after yesterday's nearly 400 point drop for the dow, futures are trying to stay steady. they're flat across the board. but remember, this time yesterday we really had a similar situation and we had
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some of the headlines coming out about the hong kong airport closing, futures dropped, markets weakeneding down nearly 400. stocks air big story but bonds perhaps the bigger global story, not just here but around the world yields continuing to fall. they're up a little bit right now. we're at 1.65% and, again, this gap here between this 1.58 and 1.65, that's the yield curve if this goes above that, that, some people say, is a big warning sign we are getting close right now we are just what they call seven basis points, basically seven little one hundredth dollars of o that inversion and china central bank setting down official midpoint for its currency, weaker than 71 to the dollar for the forth straight session. course all of that happening as protests continue in hong kong and that's rattled the asian
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markets, particularly hang seng, one of the most important markets not only in asia but in the world, down another 2%, solidly negative on the year the nikkei and japan gets hit along with the carnage down 1% shanghai held up a little bit better, but the hong kong hang seng the index to watch. the european markets maybe more reacting to us they're down, yes, but maybe .2, .3 right now not big losses outside of stocks, again, we are seeing oil up just fractionally but still at 55 bucks. we have hellema kroft coming on. and gold, reigns around the world. gold one of the top-performing asset classes of the year. up nearly 20% in just 90 days and up again today to 1535
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the real question is this about the you watch cnbc every day, you hear us talk about so many different things what are the key things weighing on the markets and your money right now? let's talk about it. you've obviously got now the protests in hong kong. they've been going on for months and they're getting worse, in fact, the airport now open, but closed yesterday and we expect more closures or at least protests coming up. you've got the trade war, which continues outside of the protests so that has strained u.s./china relationships the european banks, doix bank, commerce bank, credit of italy, their shares are at or near multiyear or all-time lows a lot of attorney about the health of the major u.s. banks don't forget about the clock ticking on brexit. we haven't talked about it a lot lately because of everything else going on. but brexit, we're pointing to october, we have boris johnson at prime minister, brexit is still a major global story and last but not least, stock
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valuations you look at the just the valuation of our market with recent declines going forward and some people say well, these valuations may be a peak you heard them talk about at the top of the show yesterday. the market cap of our markets to gdp is at the same ratio, about 140% gdp as it was in 2007 and as it was in 1999. so valuations just generally do remain a concern let's now talk about all of this joining us once again, jeff h, there's probably four or five more things i could have put on there, bond yields, we only have so much room on that wall, but it shows how many things are outstanding right now to you either on our wall or something else what is your main number one concern right now? >> i think it's the trade war. i mean, hong kong i don't think is impacting the markets directly as much this trade war is what the fed
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has said is the reason that they cut rates. powell says trade uncertainty, trump wants more rate cuts, he gives them more trade uncertainty. i'm more concerned about the trade war than hong kong per se right now. >> listen, again, on that wall we could have put fed concerns, has the fed screwed it up? are they miscommunicating or mismanging this. >> clearly miscommunicating. >> is if fair so say the trade war and the fed are kind of one in the same right now? >> oh, yeah. i think so i mean, that's -- >> because they've got to react. they've got to pay attention to that. >> the fed chairman himself was the one that said easy that's the things that were creating the uncertainty for them >> and their job is to manage inflation, one of their jobs and if the tariffs kick in on september 1st on the consumer goods, inflation is likely to rise so they've got to react not only sort of psychologically, but to their edict about -- >> after years of trying to get inflation to rise, now it's going to rise a little bit and they're going to get all crazy
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and start cutting. i mean, it's probably going to happen i don't necessarily think that we need to have a lower rate situation right now. and i think that the feds has a communication problem. but the thing that we're look at also is this recession risk, the fear of the yield curving version. the research we did showed that not really until the fed funds rate kicks up above the 30 year that you've got that clear recession rate everyone started jumping the gun here a little bit and making headlines and talking about this two-year, ten-year. >> i hate to use the term basis points at 5:07 in the morning. >> it's a bit much. >> we're talking about 1%, these little blips but we are now just seven, i said it, basis points away interest that inversion on 2.10. not that it's a great -- it's not a hands down recession coming >> that's the big debate right now, which is is the bond market flashing that big recession signal or do our yields keep falling because our bonds keep
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getting bought because nobody around the world is getting any yield anywhere else? >> i think that's more the case than the recession the bond market, we're the place to be right now. we've got to come down to the rest of the major economies in the world. i think that's what's happening. and the pressure from the white house is not something to, you know, scoff at it's not necessarily verbal stuff. he's going to do things that are going create stuff that he wants. it's a classic election-cycle behavior we're talking about how the government manipulates to say in power in the is an incumbent president to get re-elected and it drives things. >> there is a school of thought, i don't know if you're in that classroom or not, is we could get some kind of favorable end to the trade fight early next year right around the time things are heating up. but i think the reason i bring it up is not politically, there's a big sort of in the market, still because remember, we're still up what? 15% to 17% on most of the major
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averages this year. >> yes. >> we need to put it in context that there's a bid putting a floor into the markets because people sort of quietly expect this favorable outcome for political reasons. >> a sneak preview in the 2020 alma knack, sitting presidents running for election versus all election years versus open fields no sitting president. sitting years without somebody running 10%. all election years 5%. and minus 1.6 for open field elections. so there is something to the power of incumbency there. >> sitting presidents going into re-election -- >> running for re-election. >> running for re-election tend to historically, this is what you guys do better than anybody else, i hate to use -- goose the market >> prime the pump. >> they do better? >> yeah. >> because a lot of maybe promises we're seeing the democrats promise a lot. trump may come out and start promising a lot? >> you've got a psychological situation where, you know, there's somebody getting re-elect and there's a lot of drive to make that happen. and that's what does it. it is august too we're look at a seasonally weak
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period everyone's talking about it now. we came in prepared for this. >> yeah. >> we've been market neutral since mid-july there's a couple of short days in there and it's set up pretty well the whole year's been tracking seasonally quite closely and i think it continues which means good things for the end of the zbleer you still remain optimistic toward equities at the end of the year? >> look at the end of the seasonal patterns, it's almost to a t to me that tells me it's going to keep track of the seasonal patterns. >> a lot of our viewers and listeners are hoping you're right. we're down 3% this month on the dow. but they're saying this is a month to forget. >> worst month since 88. >> first probabilities fund management, thank you. and of course the stock trader's alma knack. we mentioned investor nervousness about the situation in hong kong what right now is the situation in hong kong is the airport reopened? where are the protests let's join now nbc's matt bradley with more. matt. >> reporter: hey, brian, you
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know, it's looking a little grimmer and grimmer as the day goes on here as you can see, there's tons of youthful protesters who are now not in the arrivals hall but in the departures hall. they're blocking people from checking into their flights. and behind them are all of these luggage trolleys they're using this to try to keep people from just checking in and this is exactly what caused the problem yesterday when they fully shutdown the airport and canceled hundreds and hundreds of flights now, there are still people checking in, as you mentioned the airport is open. but it doesn't seem like it's going to stay open might actually shut down because we've been hearing on social media that protesters are asking that people who get off work later in the day, it's only 5:00, that they come straight to the airport and participant in this massive act of obstruction. now, what would that do? closing one of the world's busiest airports for the second day in a row, it would be unprecedented and it could really cause knock down effects
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for the economy of hong kong every flight that's canceled, every passenger who doesn't come here, that also means a hotel stay, a restaurant order, a taxi fare it's a very, very complicated situation and one that could really start to work dense the protesters the protesters say that this is worth it, they're willing to pay the price if hong kong's economy goes downhill. but a lot of the older folks here, the ones who are working and providing, they might not agree and their patience might start to be wearing thin brian. >> are flights currently arriving into hong kong airport? >> reporter: yeah. we're seeing planes landing and passengers getting off and coming through immigration but, you know, it's hard to see how that continues these people in both the departures and the arrivals concourse, if more comes out and there's thousands and thousands more than the thousands and thousands that are already here, they could do the same kind of
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obstructive action they did yesterday and shut down the whole airport all over again brian. >> so, matt, obviously hong kong a lot more than just an airport, it's probably the leading financial center of asia, one of the leading financial centers of the world, trillions of dollars of business goes through there every year what's the situation in what they call central and mid levels and causeway bay are people work something are the financial markets functioning there right now? >> reporter: yeah, the financial markets are functioning but they're reeling from this. you know, the hang seng has been dipping. it's a very, very bad situation financially. and carrie lam, she's the chief executive here she came out and she said this is really causing a damage for the hong kong economy. she was pleading with the protesters all week and she had some of her financial people coming out and saying the same thing. now, we're getting pushed around here because a lot of these arriving passengers are very upset and they're not -- they're not waiting for us and they're not waiting for the protests in the is kind of becoming a bit of
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a tinderbox. excuse me. and this could set off at any minute there are no police here, brian. it's not a problem yet but there are police behind security and if the passengers start to scuffle more with the protesters, we could see some real props here in one of the busiest airports in the world. >> biggest 202,000 passengers a day on average we appreciate it we'll see you all day on cnbc. thank you very much. all right. dramatic scenes there. when we come back, this morning's main stocks that you need to watch, including a new ceo. an what's the health or lack of commerce banking deutsch bark and eurocredit down 30% in the last year we'll tell you what's going on and why he that situation could spell big trouble for the global markets as well. it is a global wall of worry and you are watching worldwide exchange right here on cnbc.
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5:fen seen it here on the east coast not just all about china and global macro concerns. there are some important and individual stock stories to pay attention to today involving streaming music, cook at home, and a big change at the top of the home of nacho fries. we'll have a look at these stories. >> good morning, brian
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let's start with fast food and yum brands the parent come of kfc, taco bell and pizza hut is promoting coo david gibbs to the top job gibbs has been with the company for 30 years creed has been ceo since 2015. you can see shares of yum brands this morning unchanged andlet stick wi and let's stick with food. this stock is up 6.6%. this is the best day in seven months the meal kit delivery service recording its quarterly profit since going public two years ago. and also the broader international markets. news comes just days after its rival blue apron posted weak results. and music is following sharply, the stock is down 3.1 pes. the chinese media streaming service posting, brian, the slowest growth in average revenue per user since the ipo
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next year. >> big stories there we'll see you in a few minutes still on deck, it's not just china. another country seeing its krunssy and markets take a massive hit yesterday. should you add this to your global wall of worry plus, what is happening in europe rates there falling nearly every day. well, the european banks, some of the biggest in the world damage our markets here? analysis and insight with larry mcdonald coming up fun fact: 1 in 4 of us millennials have debt we might die with. and most of that debt is actually from credit cards. it's just not right. but with sofi, you can get your credit cards right - by consolidating your credit card debt into one monthly payment. you can get your interest rate right - by locking in a fixed low rate today. and you can get your money right. with sofi. check your rate in 2 minutes or less. get a no-fee personal loan up to $100k. take prilosec otc and take control of heartburn.
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welcome back you can add yet another argumen to that wall of worry we showed you before yesterday was one of the single biggest declines in the history of global stock markets ever the argentinian industrial jones collapsing 38% in one day. this after the president was dealt a major defeat in a primary election against leftist alberto fernandez who's running mate is former president and nationalist christina kirchner argentina stocks tanking on monday all of this comes with concern that if the leftist government takes control, argentina could once again default on its debt insurance on the debt showing a 75% chance that that could happen
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banks stocks around the world have been under pressure here and globally amid unsnernt argentina, hong kong, europe, the uk and here. all as bond yields fall. about a quarter of the world's sovereign debt now has a negative yield this has been reflected the most in europe. european banking index, the stocks europe 600 is at its lowest level since 2016. many of the big names that you know are at or close to all-time lows let's bring in larry mcdonald, editor of the bear trap's report and cnbc contributor with everything going on with the trade war and now with hong kong and maybe yesterday with argentina, larry, i feel like if that wasn't happening, european banks would probably be our top story every day. >> well, you know, we have to look at the world over the last six years. we've seen kind of market-friendly, populous governments come into the fold argentina's a perfect example.
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and now you're seeing the transition over to the left wing where there are market-hostile governments coming in. if that's a trend through latin america and now we have that risk in america itself, right, it won't be the same type of credit risk, but all you need for equities to have a real problem in the united states is the probability of a left wing market foe government coming in to the united states or other countries around the world and then equities have to reprice really quickly. >> how worried are you about -- here's the problem with european banks. equity doesn't always tell the story. we'd like to think the stock market tells the story it does to a point the stocks of these banks have been terrible. commerce bank, deutsch bank, euro credit are the big three. their stocks are at all-time lows do you feel that the stock market is adequately or maybe
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overreacting to the real health or lack of health of these banks? >> well, here's a case where the eufn, which san is an etf that a lot of these banks has been pricing in what's called a cram down in a capital structure say a bank you've got debt and equity and that equity value of that pie has been crammed down and crammed down and crammed down for, you know, going on six, seven years. listen, this bear case is the most prevalent, well known bear case i think in the history of capital markets. you want to be buying things like european banks down here. sure, you've got more down side. but if your assume late banks over the next six to nine months and hold them for two, three years, you're going to be in a very, very good spot. >> why are you so confident had that, larry? because they've gone down, down, down. >> i'll tell you why because the european governme s governments, especially in the
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north, have been smoking in the dynamite shed. they've been really -- they've been sitting back and watching mauerio fire bullet after bullet after bullet, blank after blank after blank destroying these banks. negative yields on almost 100% of german bonds, 100% of denmark bonds in the is insanity they have to sit back and do a fiscal plan, which they will do in the next six months lay off the central banks. lay off negative yields. and then you'll see once that beach ball which is pressuring these banks, this negative yield overdose, once that reverses it self over the next six months because you'll see a fiscal plan in the uk, fiscal plan in germany, fiscal plan that will revive these economies, these banks will soar in a massive countertrend. >> let me ask you this let's switch down to the
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southern hemisphere. argentina, second biggest one-day decline in the history of any modern stock market ever. now, there's a one hundred-year bond that was sold -- 100-year bond yielded 7.9% when it was sold with the drop yesterday, it' about 54 cents to the dollar i think the yield on that bond, correct me if i'm wrong, is now around 12% everyone's desperate for yield would you take a flyer and buy that argentinian bond to try to get 12% on your money? >> well, think about it the bontd has gone from eighty 5 cents on the dollar to 50. you're talking about 30 point loss across all the debt in argentina. you're talking about close to $50 billion of losses this week. and i wouldn't touch that bond because i don't trust christina
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and mr. -- >> kirschener. >> i think overall there are someplaces in the bond market global that i you can look at. but net, net, there's too much money crammed into negative-yielding bonds and that has dislocated the credit risk of many, many governments. so, in other words, two weeks ago, three weeks ago people were piling into this hundred-year bond and now as you see left wingers coming in, left-wing risk, now the money flying out as fast as it came in. >> yeah. i wonder if that -- i think it's 12% or whatever now yield on that hundred-year bond is going to lure some gamblers in there's a 75% chance of a default based on the credit default swaps. 54 cents on the dollar but 12% could look pretty tasty. we'll find out larry, always appreciate your views. thank you very much. >> thank you coming up, a man just got an
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entire delta flight to himself that sound like heaven we're going to tell you how he did it, but first heare's your stat of the day. 58% of all s&p 500 companies carry a higher yield, the dividend yield, than the yield on the ten-year u.s. treasury note you wonder why people might come into stocks, forget about the price of the equity, they might be looking for that yield. e ckith more right after this
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welcome back we have breaking news right now from hong kong and another developing story there local media now reporting that the airport there has suspended all check-ins. arrivals are still happening, but check-ins have been suspended. now, the hong kong airport authority says terminal operations have been seriously disrupted because of the protest. cathay pacific, which carrier of hong kong, says there's a potential for further flight disruptions or short notice. we showed you earlier how thousands, maybe tens of thousands of protesters are staging a sit-in in the departures hall. they are saying all check-ins for departing flights have been suspended. flights still are arriving let's get a check on this morning's other top headlines. and for that we go once again to phillip mena in new york >> good morning. jeffrey epstein's death is by no
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means an end to the investigation into his alleged sex trafficking ring fbi acts raided the former financier's private islands in the caribbean for evidence in the case meanwhile, there's growing scrutiny over his apparent suicide. the attorney general saying there were, quote, serious irregularities at the federal jail where the accused sex trafficker was held. if you ever wondered what it would be like to fly on a private jet but without the huge price tag? one guy got a chance do just that he says that through some sort of glitch he ended up being delta's only passenger on this flight he was flying from aspen to salt lake city. he does have the diamond medallion status which is delta's top tier and delta says they were more than happy to give a frequent flyer a one of a kind experience. and check out this guy in arizona here he knows real thiem in he caught this monster catfish
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weighed over 50 pounds he sent a picture of this to the arizona catfish conservation association for their fat cat challenge. he later released that catfish back into bartlett lake. so this is a catfishing story that we like to hear, a hope happy ending. >> it looked like the catfish didn't want to let go. it looked at the end of the video eric's hand was sort of -- catfish are notorious, they'll eat anything. >> 50 pounds, that thing's huge. >> tough times in aspen, philip. i think you and i should go out there and do some deep investigation into what's happening in aspen. >> i'm down. sign me up. >> appreciate. 'see you soon. >> all right. coming up, inverted yield curves and why you care. before your eyes glaze over, look at this ten-year yield looks set to the fall below the two-year yield. why do you care? because history says that could be a very bad sign for the american economy the full story we'll make you smarter
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1 below the dollar for the fourth straight session. futures are weakening. just remember this, i'm not taking anything away from this very fine program. stock futures largely are traded by u.s. traders. at 5:37 in the morning their watching worldwide exchange from probably from home or listening from their car so as they come into the office, you really start to see the volumes ramp up around 7:00 in the morning and once again, we are seeing futures sell now. we're down another hundred points after yesterday's 300 plus point -- nearly 400-point drop on the dow. despite the wild market moves that we have been seeing the last couple of weeks, your next guest has three reasons for some long-term, cautious optimism beginning with you. the still confident u.s. consumer plus a federal reserve that will stand ready to take action, and the fact that the chinese government is likely to do anything to mitigate social unrest and limit the impact of the trade war. joining us now is linda and she is portfolio manager and vp at federated investors.
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linda, always great to see you you acknowledge that risks have increased but you are still cautiously optimistic. how cautious are you >> well, certainly, you know, last couple of weeks and the events of hong kong over the last couple of days have heightened that level of uncertainty. you know, what market hates is uncertainty and right now we are long on certainty and, hence, there's going to be a lot more people that are going to be a lot more investors that are going to be a lot more cautious. but you really do need to step back and look at the fundamentals of u.s. economy and that's really driven by the consumer, as you mentioned, and also by the fed. and not just our fed, but global central banks that are easing around the world there's been more than 20 easings already and i think that's set to continue >> i feel like, though, in some ways, linda, we're looking for our fed to be that knight in shining armor that comes in and
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slays the sort of global recession dragon and i just wonder if maybe this time the dragon wins, the dragon eats the knight because some people suggest the fed simply doesn't have that kind of firepower right now. >> well, i think the fed probably does have more firepower than, you know, investors give them credit for certainly they can cut rates, there's easing, and i'm sure they can come up with other, you know, programs that, you know, we haven't even thought about yet. so i think the fed is already thinking through this issue. they're not just sitting there thinking that this is the only policy tool that they have but, you're right. i think as we get longer through this stretch and the fed uses more of its bullets, i think we are going to be bound for more volatility and more really big drawdown days potential. >> i quickly, linda, what do we do do we raise cash what do we buy >> i think investors at this
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point should be really balanced and leave some cash, dry powder on the side to take advantage of those, you know, big volatile moves. what we're doing at federated in some of our funds is being to raise cash in other funds we have using option strategies. however, within all of this i think you still can use, you know, some sectors like technology or some of the defensive sectors as stocks that can really outperform through the whole market cycle here. and you really want to concentrate on stocks that have strong balance sheets, strong cash flows that in case the worst does occur and we enter a recession in the next two years oar so, these companies can continue to pay your dividend and income and can come out of the other side stronger. >> linda, sage advice, as always thank you, have a great day. >> thank you. all right. let's find out what else you're going to be talking about today. it's time for this morning's
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>> lifetime. you've got to be careful with these lifetime, american airlines found out a number of years ago and they regretted it. i assume people come in and order a lot of wine. >> so you're worried about the financial impact for olive garden. >> because i'm a boring business journalist whofocuses on i want -- >> because your body, you're just an adon jonous naturally no carb worries for you. >> you should have seen me 30, 30 five years ago. coming up, a new front in the trade war. oil under pressure tension between the u.s. and china wrapping up. the great, the knowing, all powerful lima kroft is here to shed some light on what the heck is happening everywhere around world. stick around
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welcome back we talk a lot about the trade wars impact, across all sectors of the economy but what about its effect on energy remember, china is a major oil buyer and they've been stockpiling inventory in response to the trade war. but how will this affect future demand joining us now is hake helima kroft. we've got stop meeting like this so china, here's why we care you're not a china analyst, but china is one of the world's biggest buyers of oil. >> of course. >> if this trade war continues, if hong kong continues, i could see a situation where demand for oil into china decrease clrs means global oversupplies increase and that's a bear scenario for oil. >> of course china was the engine for growth for all commodities. what we've seen is with the trade wars starting commodities have been especially hit by
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this the chinese were stockpiling aggressively in the first half of the year. they understood what was coming in terms of venezuela and iran sanctions. they now have inventories that they can draw down from and slow their purchases. chinese oil demand was a real pillar of holding this oil market up for the first half of this year. if that goes away, oil prices going to struggle putting a lot of pressure on countries like saudi arabia in terms of what you do in terms of response. 2008 we had the last big demand-driven price collapse remember oil at 147, crashed into the 30s opec certainly pulled 4 million barrels off the market over 12 months what do they do now in the softening demand picture. >> answer your own question. >> i always get myself into trouble on your know >> what do opec do with a softening demand picture. >> the saudis came out and said we're taking 7 hundred hundred thousand additional barrels off the market but the question is, do they
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have to do more? and can you get the rest do more and unlike 2008, now you have to deal with russia they have a copilot that's been reluctant to cut as aggressively as saudi arabia. >> this is the problem with russia we know it's at 12.3, 12.4 a day. russia's like this great mystery. how much do you think russia is actually producing >> actually the opec members all say the russians never overpromise and underdeliver, they just tell you they're not going to cut as much and the difference is the russia energy sector is dominated by corporate rates not a single company. and you have the head of ross net, he's never liked the opec agreement. vladimir putin has to lay down the law and say you will cut this much. but they haven't done what the saudis have done and the question is, if they need a bigger cumulative cut, how much more can you get the russians to do >> tanker tractors, we've had great work on iranian oil sitting out there in these ghost
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ships most of them bought by the bank and china. >> yes. >> how much oil do you believe china has stockpiled that's sitting out there? how long can they go >> well, this is the -- i mean, that oil, is in storage, it's not actually come into china the question really will be if we start to see the chinese trying to move more of those barrels into the country properly, does the u.s. start to sanction more aggressively chinese refineries >> that's it. >> chinese corporate banks i think this is where -- i don't think the chinese are going pull that trigger soon because that does potentially bring on a very, very tough u.s. response it's one thing to do ship-to-ship transfers it's another thing to essentially say we're going to play the whole sanctions regime up. >> this is why we talk about it. i think you're, as always, hitting on the key thing we are this trade war going on and pit for at that time in tariffs and no one's minimizing
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that but president xi in china and president trump here they have warm words for each other publicly, which is good. if we saw the open purchase of oil, to your point, on the market, the u.s. government has two choices. ignore its own sanctions >> no, or take tougher action. neither of which seems like a good outcome. >> i guess they would have to take tougher action because they have to show their backing -- >> but that steps up the trade war yet another -- >> totally >> now you're not shoving the kid in the playground, someone through a punch. >> you threw them off the slide. so the question is will the chinese do that. i think they're more likely to do the ship-to-ship transfers, keep it more clan destin than to essentially say we're going to totally glow up your sanctions regime, bring it on. >> all right thank you so much. >> thank you. >> no, thank you. on deck, are investors hitting the brakes permanently on uber? yet another dubious new milestone for the company. we'll show outstock. if you own the stock, maybe go back to bed.
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welcome back time now for your executive recap. all the headlines you need, about 60 seconds there's a life shot of hong kong where all departing flights have now -- arriving flights are still arriving in other words, you're in the air, you're headed to hong kong, you've got a loved one, they're going to land. they're not going to go anywhere else, they're going to land. but if you're hoping to leave the airport, well, it's not going to happen. for the second day in a row, all check-ins have been suspended. shares of uber disappointing
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after a second quarter results a few days ago and about doubts of long term profitability. verizon selling blogger site tumblr it purchased tumblr for 1.1 billion in 2013. axios reporting the asking price is below 20 million. 1.1 billion to 20 million. not a good deal. all right. back to the markets and your money. are bonds the hot new stock? your next guest says people are talking about bonds like they used to talk about beyond meat last month joining us now is jay jay ki kinahan. if you told me ten months ago that gold would be some of the hottest classes in 2019, i would have said go back to the pub but yet here we are. how shocked are you by this? >> well, think just like you,
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sully, no one saw this coming, that's for sure. and i know you started the show this morning talking about only a seven basis point difference between the two and ten year certainly none of us would have suspected that you think it's less than a year ago people were talking about a 3% ten year. so, but it feels as though that ten year people going out and buying that has become maybe more of a momentum trade even than a risk trade. and i think that that's really the surprising thing about it is it just seems like almost -- i hate to use this word, but too easy to just say, okay, i'm going to buy it because i know yields are going to go lower chairman powell may come out to say something to support this and keep that momentum going and that always just scares me a little bit when i see something like that. >> do we still buy bonds is there still val threw, jj, they got overdone? >> think one of the interesting things, i look at what our clients are doing, think the
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smarter play is people buying more shorter term. if we do get some sort of, you know, resolution of the tariffs -- and whether it's good news or bad news on the tariffs, by the way, i think we just need some resolution. the problem being, companies are trying to play a game where the rules may change and the biggest thing that frightens me in what i've seen in earnings so far, nobody's talking about investing in infrastructure and that's really a tough thing. because that's not the kind of thing that necessarily bites you in the short-term. >> yeah. >> but it does bite you two, three years later. and that's one thing that's missing. so with that i think, you know, seeing sort of shorter team, if this is settled, i think the investment opportunities start to present themselves quickly once you know what the rules of the game will be. >> so do our viewers buy t-bills? when you say short-term, like cash >> actually, anything i would say a year or less because, you
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know, your asking about keeping some powder dry. you're not going to get much yield there. or one of the other things is buying some of the high-yielding sort of blue chip stocks there's a little bit of risk there. but at the moment it's just -- it's not a great tradeoff anywhere and when i look at people who are buying the ten year right now, sully, i think some of the motivation is a little bit different in mr. buying it not for the yield but for the capital appreciation. >> amazing capital appreciation on this. really your recommendation, jj, is take some money, park if someplace safe short-term, wait for that resolution that we hope will come? >> right absolutely well, yeah and obviously it's taking longer than we think. you're going to have to be patient i think on that resolution it may take up to a year from now. so obviously if we knew these answers, sully, we'd be probably somewhere else right now but it's really -- it's really a tough thing. >> it has been we've seen these markets move on
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hong kong, on everything else. now jj kinahan, great analysis thank you very much. have a great day. >> thank you. it is another wild dow dow futures down again all flights out of hong kong suspended yet again. there's a lot more do all day tomorrow squawk box begins right now. good morning futures are indicated lower on wall street one day after the dow dropped nearly 400 points. the index is now off 5.5%. the dow is the s&p just less than 5%. news breaking, though, in the last hour. hong kong's airport has success spe suspended check-in we'll take you there live. and we're watching shares of uber dropping to an all-time low. now about 18% below the ipo price on this tuesday, august 13th, 2019
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squawk box begins right now. ♪ >> announcer: live in new york where business never sleeps there there athis is squawk box. >> good morning. welcome to squawk box right here on cnbc. we're live at the nasdaq markets. guess who's here who's back in town, joe cernan is with us this morning, aloaning with kala becky has the day off. >> i'm playing mediator today. >> you're a buffer. >> come on it's nice to see you. >> thank you. >> there's bane lot going on the past two weeks. >> i know. >> we've missed you, missed your comments, your insights, your thoughts. >> there's a lot of things -- >> you know what, there are times that sometimes you just want to get -- you know, stop the world and get off. >> yeah. >> and a vacation helps you do that a little bit. it was a rough couple of weeks, it was it does kind of impact

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